Oh there's idiots that genuinely do. It's disturbing that a dude who did some shit with someone within his age range is compared with a 30/40 year old doing REALLY BAD STUFF with 13 year olds.
To be honest, I find it kind of disturbing that everyone is shocked he's not talking about the drama and dealing with his problems in private. Like, have we degenerated as a species so bad that mental health is now *required* to be broadcasted on every platform?
Amen. As someone with a handful of mental illnesses, being forced to talk about it in front of millions of people and then possibly harassed for it because my illnesses aren't good enough or whatever would make me more likely to collapse. Depression is one thing, but there's even worse illnesses such as borderline personality disorder, what I have, which is like depression but with the added bonus of impulsive, irrational decisions (among many other things), suicide often being one of those decisions. That internet hate and all of those people knowing about your problems just leads to so many thoughts in your head that you can't control. My thoughts go crazy when I feel like someone in my small friend group thinks I'm not perfect. I can't imagine that being amplified to the extremes that internet fame brings. It's better for their mental health to be private. I am happy Carson is being private about his situation. Wouldn't be surprised if his therapist or a friend said it'd be best to not talk about it online.
Ikr, some people early on were even saying carson personally betrayed them. Like come on, we don't even know the specifics of this case and yet some people act like Carson straight did this to insult them.
@@KingNin64 I disagree, the streamers and YTers who are "uncancallable" are the ones that respond confidently to controversy or just ignore and carry on. If you know the 2020 Pyrocynical drama, Pyro did way worse than Carson and he just apologized and moved on
Moist said this really well and quickly, "A 17 year old with a 19 year old is not illegal, it's only illegal on Twitter." and this says 2 things: 1, Twitter is shit. and 2, that if this never came to the internet, literally nothing bad would've happened as it's not like anything was actually illegal, the age gap is borderline the same and is normally when young people date for a bit anyway. The real concern is it was through his popularity which paints a grey line, but it's still semi justifable if the intentions was to have a relationship, but that's also a grey line too...
It wasn't just the one girl and it wasn't just him soliciting pictures from fans but people like to focus on those things. He'd been just a generally shit friend and shit person behind the scenes and lied to those who supported him over and over. His old mates had no qualms about throwing him under the bus for a reason. They had to for business reasons cause of their contract with the misfits and Ryan P to save their image but i can't imagine it was as hard as people might think
@@michael6880 Some proof for fact checking and sure, i don't doubt this, but it's also a stretch for a lot of the things stated here for it to just be ignored over everything else too...
@@anomaly395 I can't even put together words on how much i hate twitter and its community. Maybe we should cancel Twitter and we should Cancel the ones who like to cancel people.
The thing that I hate the most is that James Charles gets away with grooming but somebody who actually tries to change himself loses his career and respect. Edit: I just wanted to say that this was not meant homophobic. I just said it like this because Carson was a content creator I really enjoyed and James isn't.
If he wasn't gay, then he would've been entirely cancelled by now. This proves that twitter and cancel culture are a bunch of liberal knobheads. Edit: After seeing the REST of the replies, I realized that rational people and liberals dislike James Charles since most people hated him recently. I've also noticed that straight predators always gets away with being predatorial than the gays, James Charles not being cancelled because he's more successful as a beauty UA-camr, and that the people who are defending James aren't "liberals", but far-left. I get that I don't have to be "political" when talking about the gays James Charles and the topic, yet people called me a homophobe and someone told me to "choke on glass" because I made a comment above telling the truth from my own perspective with over 1k likes. Yet from their perspective, they think that I hate gay people because they think me saying "I have nothing against the LGBT community" is an excuse of not caring about the gays, even though I'm NOT a homophobe (evidence below this comment), it's just that I felt so angsty towards the gays when thinking about this situation (excluding rational people apart from that group). I would talk more about what happened, and that I SHOULDN'T have to talk about it, but that's what I have in mind. I feel like I'm in a room filled with idiots. From what someone said, "this reply section is full of the dumbest people." Call me a homophobe or a political a-hole but those insults won't matter to me in the next couple of years. I knew I'm bound to get haters, I was mad, yet confused after reading the replies. In the end, I'm done making an argument of this dumb fire-with-fire conflict, since people came here to get heat.
@@CuriousOfficial Agreed, but fair note, not all liberals are bad I'm not nessicarily liberal, but I am neutral-left and a very big lgbt supporter and also lgbt myself. But what James did was awful and people using him being gay as an excuse to let him get away with it is so stupid. Fuck James.
To be clear, I was born and raised in a liberal state, and I currently reside in another liberal state. I have nothing against the liberals or the LGBT community, but I hate irrational people that make up the majority of the group. I'm more of a centralist/neutralist so if I say that out loud, the community would still bash me because I'm not a part of it. If only social media is run by competent intellects and normal people, but I doubt that would happen.
@@CuriousOfficial Most people don’t like liberals, the left dislikes them but teams up with them to take down trump, while the rest of the right doesn’t even accept liberals as right wing.
Hearing Carson’s voice as a 12 year old is kinda wild to me cause honestly I didn’t know he started UA-cam when he was a 12 year old and hearing him as a kid it’s just so different compared to his voice now
@@demonking3673 The platform is not the problem; the people within it are. They will simply migrate again as they have before, such as when Tumblr banned NSFW from their platform.
@@fauzanaziz6365 it's because Connor has said on stream he thinks that friends completely cutting off ties with other people is stupid, best case scenario that's true but just wanted to inform with connor's thoughts on the matter since it might only just be him to feel that way
If it was a normal high school couple it would've been fine, it happens all the time in my school, but since Carson has such a high influence he's in a high pedestal, and such he fell hard, he's lifted to such high standards that he couldn't handle.
@@gracie-ue3bi EXACTLY LMAO. everyone is using that excuse of "17 and 19 isnt bad they were just talking." soliciting photos from a minor (aka CP) while you're an adult isn't "talking". Edit: You poor little kids getting triggered by my comment need to cope and grow a pair ffs 💀 Carson was one of my favorite UA-camrs and I want him to get help just as much as the next guy….but to sit here and act like he’s 100% innocent is just laughable.
Maybe people are just focused on the fact that 18 is legal adult age, whereas 17 isn’t. Even then, that is pretty shocking that people ignore other creators who have done worse and instead focus on Carson.
@@AGMarshallnz I looked it up. Carson is from California, and assuming he still lives there, the age of consent there is 18, and anyone under is considered a minor.
I really miss him, he's one of the modern youtubers that has made me laugh a ton, I really hope he gets his mindset on the right position and is getting a good recovering. Edit: aw shit I forgot there's still people upset at him, sorry if I upset you, I know what he did was wrong but I'm sure he can change and improve
I thought he was grooming a 12 year old or something for him to get deplatformed, but a 17 year old with a 19 year old????? that's just fucking ridiculous
@@Blades500 it isn't grooming. These twitter people are so fucking idiotic, I've heard that some people say that if two people are dating and they're 17, and one of them gets 18 years old before the other, that they should break up?!? It's like they see it as if on your 18th birthday your brain completely halts developing and you gain like 100 iq points or something, and it's just completely arbitrary.
By twitters logic if I (25f) dated a 23yr old male I’d be a pedophile. It’s so fucking ridiculous and it makes me angry. We’ve got more traumatic and worrying shit to worry about than this
@@a6shot199 have you ever heard of the Romeo and julliet law? Any relationship with someone within 4 years is legal no matter what. This is only illegal on Twitter, and it's not like turing 18 means your brain suddenly becomes extremely developed. It's a spectrum and 18 is an extremely arbitrary number considering that your mind is fully developed at 25 years old.
I remember when all this was going on I thought it was absolutely ridiculous that people were going crazy over a 2 year age difference and now I think it’s even more ridiculous that he just let it happen, like bro could’ve at least tried to defend himself
@@PhoenixAce it sucks because he gave made them successful, stabbed him in the back and now they're way more successful than him. Hopefully carson gets his audience back.
It's not really crazy. They're different types of people from one another, who did different types of things... As well as they're both self employed, no one is forcing them to make or not make content, it's their person choice. And yes, obviously before someone replies, EDP is banned from youtube, so it's not his choice if he can continue on youtube, but unless he is legally restricted from the internet he can waste his time trying to make more content.
It’s sad that Carson dating a 17 year old was what Twitter freaked out about. Especially sense his friends came out about how manipulative & rude he truly was
I wouldn’t think this whole thing was that big of a deal if Schlatt hadn’t cut ties with him, that one thing makes me feel like something more went on behind the scenes
im pretty sure there was. the narrator posted a video about carson treated him and raccooneggs. along with that apparently carson told schlatt he would stop, but continued anyways
17 y/o and 19 y/o dating are perfectly normal and natural but twitter can’t fathom with that imagine if it was a 19 year old girl Dating a 17 year old boy nothing would happen
And his old crew(jcshlatt, Slimecicle,etc..) also, they are too afraid to get cancelled so they just kick carson's career down a hole, his old crew is piece of degenerate shit.
twitter is one of the worst places on earth, if you compare this situation to James Charles it is quite funny because james is 21 and talks to 16 year old, and Carson talked to one consenting 17 year old when he was 19: and he gets completely „canceled“ while James is still on youtube having partnerships with big companies
Seems like Carson decided to correct himself in private instead of having to deal with the blunt of everybody else which could've possibly worsened him some more. Glad that he's deciding to be mature about it and try to correct himself by going into therapy. Hope all goes well for the big man himself!
Honestly, I don't even mind if he ends up not wanting to continue making content. Just knowing that he's safe and getting help is all I care about anymore.
19 and 17 is not even remotely close to being illegal. I find it disgusting that people were making that drama such a big deal since, it takes away attention from real victims. NPC's
I was led to believe it was some 20 year old dating a child or something. Good god the internet blew this out of proportion. Poor guy, I hope he's doing well and makes a return someday.
The thing is that he may have been interacting with girls younger then 17, and I’m saying “may have been” very lightly Bc most people are pretty sure he did, especially because one of his closest friend at the time filed a police report on him after hearing what Carson did
Idk why, but it's so funny to me, but in a strange way, also extremely sad, that Carson's last words were "If you spell your name wrong on an IQ test does your score get knocked down"😂😂
to call him a p3do genuinely makes me feel quite upset as someone who has actually had to deal with real ones in my life. im not sure if other people who have been thru similar feel the same but when its a 2 year diff between two consenting people it just makes real victims look like a joke. it actually makes me sick.
YES! When people were calling him that I genuinly thought he was on some EDP445 shit - but 17 and 19? Thats not wierd at all. The only thing that made it kinda messed up was there most likely being a power imbalance, but in no way is he a p3do or anything. Its so overblown :(
i think some like connor and schlatt would be willing to give him another chance, since connor is still somewhat in contact with him, and schlatt and carson were really close friends
@@TheWither129 Pretty sure schlatt said he gave Carson another chance but found out Carson was still messaging the girl so I doubt he's gonna give him a third
@@enotsnavdier6867 What clout? Most of Carson's old friends have made careers for themselves and Carson's reputation is basically ruined so they wouldn't want to associate with him anyway.
To say I'm relieved that Carson is alive and getting the help he needs would be an understatement, words can not describe how glad I am knowing our lad is getting better
Cancelled YT'er: deny, deny, deny, act like it didn't happen. People: just admit it and go away! Carson: goes away to get mental help and leaves the internet because he is a level headed and calculated person. People: OMG he's so scared he won't face the drama! like, man 🙄🙄
Was there confirmed anywhere that he went out to get help? If he would hypothetically come back, that would just make him be on the first category anyways. Even if he wouldn't make any apology.
I mean, the guy straight up admitted it, didn't pull the shit EDP pulled yesterday of not addressing shit online, Carson's first reaction to this shit being public was admitting he fucked up and leave the internet for what he did. I hope he can come back because many people I watch keep leaving :/, not that what he did wasn't bad, but I was there for his style of humor tbh, and there is no other like him sadly
@@Gaming_Legend2 yeah man like edp is really trying to make a comeback on facebook and his own website and that dude did way worse than carson. edp is just plain stupid
@@manporo5865 but Twitter did attack George for Catibugs age (she was 18 and a half by the time the "event" took place) yet george got called a groomer and all this terrible stuff. Im so glad to never have made a Twitter and never will
I hate this UA-cam dynamic where things can’t just be sorted out privately, honestly I believe that Keemstar is one of the biggest reasons for why Carson disappeared.
I agree that drama culture is toxic af, but he is a public figure and what he did, was with a fan. It needed to be spoke out in public to let it be known, it's not ok. There's a reason why so much shit happened in Hollywood and no-one was saying anything
Personally, I think Keemstar is the real villian here. He always leaves out important details and exaggerates the situation to make the other person look bad for views. He never gets to the point right away, and recently on Twitter he did some racist shit and tried to manipulate his fanbase into tweeting #GOODGUYKEEM by luring them wish CashApp like a bunch of 10 year olds on a treadmill running after a ROBLOX giftcard hanging from a fishing rod.
It honestly makes me sick that Noah and Traves didn’t see a problem with going to Keem. Dude is famous for blowing shit out of proportion and being an all around scumbag. It just seems very malicious.
@@Jef_Jingles So youtubers should never date anyone who isnt a youtuber then? What if one person has 100k subs and the other has 3 million? You make no sense
sad to think about the fact no matter if he comes back or not, his content will never be the same without the lunch club members being in his main channel and vods channel videos.
@@providethem i mean, deserved tbh. he was literally in possession of cp, i'm surprised people have already "forgiven" him when they obviously don't have the right to forgive carson, but rather the victims should make that choice.
@@diorsse the ‘victim’ came out and said it was for attention and she only came out with the allegations to get back at him for not getting with her, and then got her account deleted, shes not a victim
This is sick because in the uk it's perfectly legal, 16 is the age of consent and, 2 years difference isn't even that bad, he doesn't deserve that at all. hope the dudes doing ok.
He is doin pretty good tho I think he dropped most of that stuff to try and raise money for a charity for a full year on stream and it worked- he said something about wanting to do it again but he’s really making a relatively good comeback
It’s fine in the US too. Romeo and Juliet laws. Imagine you started dating someone who was 16 when you were 17. You turned 18 and she turned 17. Not illegal. Neither is 19 and 17. Twitter should be removed from the face of the internet
“Underage fans” they make it the girls are 13. Even charlie said it him self. “Its not illegal, its only illegal in twitter.” Twitter is such a dumb app. We should cancel twitter.
It’s really upsetting that the Lunch Club went their separate ways... my little brother’s group of gaming friends names themselves The Lunchtable Gang in their honor
It's hard to deny that Schlatt and the rest threw him under the bus. Whatever they were talking between each other, and however much Carson was not keeping his promises of changing, they decided to break up their friendship, and "expose him" on a public platform instead of doing it in private. Sucks for Carson.
@@sirilthefirst8971 Yeah, what kind of friends are those? Real friends don't abandon each other, they support and help each other. At least that's what I think.
Smoemper King of bricks oh true I guess. Didn’t think of that but also I don’t really think THAT many people hate him. It’s literally a small minority on twitter. If he never stopped posting...most people wouldn’t even have remembered it by now.
Stupid boii that’s so dumb lol. Carson was a fuckin meme and barely had a million followers on twitter or UA-cam back then. Also how is using your extremely good looks to get nudes any different from using your fame to get nudes ? Heck people Literally pay for nudes too. Is that exploiting as well ? Y’all are wack. Exploiting can only be done if the person has power over you that’ll effect your life I.E a manger/Teacher/Boss/Employer etc etc
@@matthewandrew8423 There's actually a good reason it's called exploiting a fan. I really don't believe Carson to be malicious or anything like that, but the power dynamic still works. Since she was a fan, she already idolized/looked up to Carson. I don't think/can't know if he did it knowingly, but the point still stands. Also, I wouldn't call it some small twitter minority. There were tons and tons of videos popping up about the drama, he lost 270 thousand subscribers and a lot of people certainly were talking about it
I didn’t realize that there was such a small age difference. My best friend is 17 and dating a 20 year old and it’s honestly a pretty healthy relationship.
I don't even get how one could see something awful / forbidden there. Is it really the US' legal system where being 18 or not marks this hard border as to what's legal or not? Is it, in the same vein, problematic for those people to have a partner two weeks younger when one turns 18 and the other one's still 17? Very weird moral compass...
@@Balotovi Theres a grace period of a few years because of exactly this. The exact laws vary state to state but you arent gonna go to jail because you had a birthday
@@OlCrunchy Oh alright, so completely normal relationships like 16 and 18 or 17 and 19 are generally still allowed because of this? That's relieving to hear I guess. But doesn't that mean that Carson's actions really weren't illegal? So what actually is the problem of the community?
@@Balotovi clout chasing. Everyone hates pedophiles, as they should, and saying “_____ was chatting up an underage girl, breaking news!!” easily whips people into a frenzy when they aren’t also given full context
@@Sorrow.. I’m not sure but 2 years apart isn’t a big deal imo. Maybe if Carson was 25 at the time or something. They were basically the same age. One was about to finish HS and the other just got done with it. The entire time I thought this stuff JUST happened and the girl was like 13-14 lol
Honestly as far as how he handles drama I have a lot of respect for Carson. He takes a step back from the media and handles it in private and gets the help he needs. Instead of most media figures now who blast every second of drama to get more views.
Carson feels like a ghost.... he died a few months back, but signs of him are around the internet. I hope he's getting the help he needs, and that he's happy. I don't care if he comes back, I just want him to be happy.
My question is, why the hell are you all freaking out? A two year difference? If you switched the roles and Carson was seventeen and she was nineteen no one would blink an eye. Shit if he wasn’t an “influencer” no one would blink an eye. Lmao poor dude has most of his friends saying shit like “I’m glad he’s getting the help he needs” he didn’t do anything wrong besides become an influencer.
@@CarlosianBigWang Thank you. 19-17, 18-17 happens hella times in school. Some niggas blowing this shit out of proportion and making Carson seem like a legit predator. It was illegal what he did, yes, but the term predator doesn’t go here
As someone who was a huge Carson fan, I’m really glad he is getting therapeutic help. Him getting a cat is probably another thing helping him get a better mindset.
I met my boyfriend when I was 15 and we’ve been together for years. He’s 19 and I’m 18, but I just turned 18 last month, therefore it was the same age gap. We have a great relationship and that age difference of about a year means absolutely nothing. I can’t believe this situation happened over that… Carson has been and will be my favorite UA-camr. Been watching him for 3 years
15 and 17 being together until 19 and 17 and meeting at 19 and 17 are different but i still don’t think 17 and 19 are bad i wouldn’t do it myself just because i’m going to college next year and couldn’t see myself with someone still in highschool because i am in no serious relationship atm.
@@kel_ganja if you care more about what someone is doing then the connection you'll have with them, then you'll never be happy.. focus on the fucking connection before anything else, everything else will fall into place naturally smfh
Carson is the only youtuber with these allegations who has actually decided to get therapy, and I'm happy for him and hope he's able to make a comeback.
17 and 19 is normal!! thats when my parents got together, people blew this out of preportion. i hope carson is getting therapy not just for that but for the impact the hate probably had on him, i hope he returns.
There an underlying tone though that he likely felt. He felt he used his position on the platform to request something of someone. I dont know the full story but regardless of age, its a harsh feeling for him to disgest that he did im sure. It being a "minor" might have made it look and feel worse than it really was.
yeah, there’s literally of thousands of relationships between high school seniors and juniors that become a relationship between a 19 year old and 17 year old when the senior graduates high school. it’s 100% normal, though there was some sort of usage of his fame involved, far worse things have gone unpunished in the world
people just get crazy whenever the 18 years old line is crossed like dude, you aint gonna have a whole mind reboot and maturity boost at 00:00 of your birthday
Man, truthfully I thought he did something vile like being 20 and texting a 12 year old. But this just shows Twitter is a cesspool of actual garbage. This is awful. The truth feels as though it was so hard to find casually as well. I hope he gets better and focuses on himself. The world is shit, and he just needs to care about himself and no one else. Hope he’s doing alright now.
It took me a while to get to know that since everyone kept talking about Carson grooming a minor. Now I know why, noone wanted to tell the age of the girl since it destroys the point
The fact that people lost their shit about a 19 year old doing shit with a 17 year old is wild. People acting like a 19 year old and a 17 year old is the same as some 40 year old trying to get at a 14 year old or something is really fuckin pathetic. People need to get some hobbies. I also don't get the "he didn't deal with it" how the fuck is he supposed to deal with it? Make some shitty apology video? The internet wouldn't care, they already saw him as some turbo creep and nothing he said or did would change that. going radio silent is really the only good option. shit I was dating a girl in high school who was younger then me and we dated until I was 20, and at one point I was 18 while she was 17, so I guess I'm a disgusting groomer pedophile.
Both young.. the audacity to call it pedophilic, while in just 1 year no one would ever say something because she got 1 more year and is now 18.. just ridiculous to cancel people for this stuff
I watched him grow his channel to such a substantial point with iconic/nostalgic moments along the way, seeing that he’s getting professional help is more than an apology and going that length goes to show how he’s trying. Not a lot of channels have made me laugh as much as carson did and since he’s left I’ve been more bummed than usual
Actions speak louder than words. People just apologize for anything and everything but dont even mean it to begin with. If hes getting help it shows that he not only acknowledges what he did was wrong but that he wants to take the initiative to make that change
He was already going through psychological troubles before all this, his gf cheated with him with a close friend, then the internet started canceling him, and all his other friends sold out and distanced themselves from him for what really turned out to be a hit-piece on him. Of course he'd be tired of all of it.
I sort of feel like that was the beginning of the end, when he didn't take among us seriously. Around that time, he was already being sort of outcasted by people
I’m torn. If he does come back, I don’t know if he will just make up with all of his old friends or not. It’s possible he does, or maybe finds a new group of people, but if he comes back and does solo content, I don’t think it will be the same. I just miss when I could watch him and laugh and forget about drama.
Since people like Connor are talking about him getting better, he might have some people to make content with. And who knows? With all the shit that has happened with other content creators, maybe he can make peace with the likes of Slimecicle and Schlatt as well.
@@flat-seventh I really hope him and schlatt make peace. It would be really nice to see them make content together again and could be really funny but even if that ends up not being the case, it would be nice to see them on good terms again. But we can only leave that up to schlatt and his opinions about Carson moving forward.
I think Jawsh and Carson would still be on good terms. Jawsh was there for Carson since 2k subscribers and imo piggybacked off Carson’s success, not in a bad way tho. That being said I definitely think they are still in contact at the very least.
lets be real, carson is too awkward to get past this with the same humor, or without massively awkward sections where he gets lost in his thoughts after certain jokes .
even if what carson did was wrong, whoever in his friend circle that was okay with telling keemstar about this stuff basically backstabbed him, so idk how willing he'd be to make up with them in particular and by "backstab," i mean telling keemstar in particular, not talking about the incident in general they should NOT have gone to the gnome, wtf were they thinking
my favorite part of that cat video on his ig story is how happy he sounds. he seems to be doing well with his new cat and is enjoying himself while taking a break away from the shithole known as the internet
THIS MAN isn't like the other youtubers making apology videos. He didn't make a fake video saying "sorry" and hoping it would be okay, instead he spent the time to reflect on his actions and get therapy. HE out of all the people i the world deserves to be un-cancelled
I’m genuinely happy that Carson is doing alright, i don’t care if the internet would still be hard pressed on him, I just want to know he’s alive and well
@@drewb3108 probably because he is trying to improve himself, he did shit but is feeling ashamed of it. You can hate him but also have to give freedom to people to support this.
@@laqu. and he was 21 and she was 17. Still a four year age gap and over 18 but it’s not as bad as other things. 17-18 not too far(well that’s me saying that as a 17 yr)
Honestly, at least he owned up to it, admitted to being ashamed of himself and didn't drag on the situation like other people do. I'm glad he's taken time away and is really trying to work on himself and his own mental health so he can be a better person.
love your ironic name. and yeah, hes one of the few dumb eedeeot people... who did the right thing. lets hope that, like jontron, he comes back in a year or so
I hope he feels well now! I feel so bad for him. He worked so hard for his channel and then this happens. He doesn't have to apologize for having a relationship with someone who's 2 years younger than him. Legally it's seen as having a relationship with a minor, but in reality so many people have relationships when they are these exact ages. I hope people back off and let him be if he comes back ☺️
@@milchi5122 Becuase it could have many ramifications. Social issues often bleed into actual, tangible places like jobs. If bad words gets out about you, it could seriously put your well being on the line.
If he had just waited until she was 18... since the legal issue is he technically owned CP since she was 17 at the time. He isnt a pedophile by any means but it was technically illegal.
I mean as long as if it's a joke like, it would be crossing the line if they sent pics of their..parts.. like a simple sexual text that's all as long it doesn't cross the line.
@@SATANS_SPHYNX Guess a lot of people's parents, who have age gaps ranging from over 2 or so years (myself included) are creepy and should be put to shame then :V
It's so wierd that He lost 270.000 subscibers because He was in a "relationship" with a 17 year old when He was 19, thats a two year gap, wich is completly normal.
I'm pretty sure that people were more concerned with the power dynamic that Carson had over them. They'd do most of the things he'd ask for because they idolized him, and people saw that as possibly manipulative and/or abusing the fame and power that he had. Although I don't think he deserved to get as much hate as he did.
@SomeWin SumWon When someone you idolize asks for something, there's an almost guaranteed chance you'd do it. The person may have not been forced to do so, but manipulated into doing so. I've said all I needed/wanted to say here. Ultimately, I don't think Carson had bad intentions, he just needed to put his bad habits under control.
He is just the messenger, i doubt he does it to tear people down, if you get on to him you might as well get onto a news reporter for reporting on something you don't like
@@Spootprime now compare him to people like Tucker Carlson form FOX, see the similarity? Its called putting a character, reactions bring viewers, viewers make money Money is money
Meanwhile you've got older rich dudes in their plus fifties dating women that are thirty years younger and that's perfectly "fine". I feel like you should date within your age range, because if he or she can be your parent/grandparent, that might be a little too much.
@@someguy2744 It’s about the brain being developed enough for you to understand making complex decisions like if you’re ready for the next step in relationships ect, adults have this ability children don’t.
tbh i never understood why he was cancelled. When I was 17 I was friends with benefits with a 19 year old for a year. I also dated a guy 2 years younger than me senior year of highschool. the ago of consent in my state is 16 and no one ever thinks there is anything wrong with those types of relationships , we all went to highschool together
Dude, this is so weird. I had a similar dream last night that the previous members of Lunch Club were doing a live stream then Carson joined in unexpectedly and it was awkward. He's just chillin' in everyone's dreams I guess.
@@gazingatthesky no it's not the age gap it's the fact that he's using his power to get pictures it's a power that's the thing the people get angry that's why they're getting angry that's why he should've been canceled it's because he's dating a fan it's so easy to figure this out I don't get it
no this is so stupid it's not the age gap it's the fact that he's using his power to get pictures it's a power that's the thing the people get angry that's why they're getting angry that's why he should've been canceled it's because he's dating a fan it's so easy to figure this out I don't get it
To me Carson is the only one who is actually represented as a HUMAN who makes MISTAKES and not just some robot whos supposed to be perfect. I really the miss the dude, his content is what inspired me to start making content again and I do hope to see a return sometime in the future.
@@yamama84982 First of all, he knew what he was doing was wrong on the inside. The fact that he even spoken out to his friends about it at first means that he's a genuine good person at heart. It's just that quitting what he saw as a harmful addiction for so long was a tough pill to swallow. Sexual instincts are a bitch-and-a-half to manage. Second of all, regretting it doesn't justify his past actions. However, that doesn't mean we throw him in the trash bin forever. Like every good-natured human being, they need to be forgiven when they fuck up, especially when they're sorry, and in distress. 'Not distressed because they don't want anyone to find out, but because they truly want to stop, and want to change for the good. Third of all, let's be honest, Twitter made Carson look like Satan for a full-ass-month-and-so-on.
@@nullified77 so what you meant here is that we need to give carson a second chance to make a redemption for his mistake after the backlash from Twitter mobs?
I don't watch carson, but this definitely has the feel of someone who either was so ashamed of their past that it being brought to the public made them curl up in a corner out of shame and disgust of themselves. Or he's seen how this goes with most people and frozen like a deer in headlights, absolutely terrified. Then after a long time, gets therapy, and gets a new kitten to ease their mind and help them come back to reality.
@@yungdobermann the dude is suffering emotionally a lot. he probably doesnt know how to handle the fame. he needs someone to talk to properly about his problems but feels "too much in his shell" to do it properly.
Back when I first discovered Carson on UA-cam he was literally the only UA-camr that I had ever watched that was able to make me consistently laugh at every single video and he is still, to this day, the only one who has ever done that. I hate all the drama and I personally hope he can get better and be in a better mental place.
I’m going to come out and say the age thing is stupid. 2 years is nothing. It’s the fact that it was a creator-fan interaction that creeped me out, and the lying to the friends. I have been depressed before. When depressed you do stupid shit, treat your friends terribly, and struggle hard. No matter if you forgive him or not, let’s just hope he stays safe Edit: If you are confused why I found the whole situation creepy, go watch Schlatt’s weekly slap video on it. Sums up the situation pretty well.
@@panic5306 Maybe, but other sites are hard as well. I am a streamer so I’m all over the place, and my personal experience with twitter has been the hardest haha
@@sydneybeaa I didn’t think about the environments of twitch and other streaming sites. I’m not as involved as I’d like to be there but from what I can tell Twitch seems to care more about their creators than youtube. Then again I don’t truly know what it’s like over there.
I knew Carson back in 2019 and found him very entertaining and genuine. It's truly a shame what happened but he doesn't deserve to be hated so much. I'm glad he's doing okay, however. Also really nice touch on Minecraft soundtrack in the video since he started the career with the said game.
No way, I just found this video now because I was going through your videos. Out of curiosity I thought I’d double check his channel towards the end of the video, with all the talk of him maybe coming back, and he posted a video just five days ago. The timing’s kinda crazy
Actually, I’m quite curious to hear about what you think of his return. I just took a look and it seems like he’s spent a long time dedicating himself to charity work
Go into any checkout line in any major store and there's tons of shit like the Inquirer or the Daily Mail that's effectively just gossips rags. Shit is as old as humanity itself.
@@LiterallyWho1917 true people have been criticizing ANYTHING since recorded history. (shout out to that Samuel Pepys who criticized Romeo and Juliet back in 1662, calling it, "a play of itself the worst I have ever heard in my life.")
@@Leatherface123. nah , rather give them a taste of their own medicine. I remember when they some of them tried to dogpile on pyrocynical like Turkey Tom. if you're going to talk about shit you're not knowledgeable about just don't talk.
The video of the cat with Carson laughing in the background made my heart happy. You can see he's doing better by stepping back from the "Influencer" role but still keeps up with his favorite creators such as Ludwig. I just hope he can find himself going into a happier, healthier mindset. I wouldn't want him to post more content if all it did was hurt him. I do miss his content tho. Not just him but also his LunchBox buddies. Almost none of them are constantly grinding anymore like they used to and it's really sad to see.
@@cormacmccolgan3500 i agree, when daniel avidan got canceled, even tho his accusations got debunked, i still couldn't see him the same way. cancel culture is a bitch
@@cormacmccolgan3500 it seems weird that theyd want to keep their rep clean considering almost none of them actually make content anymore to "keep clean". it does seem unlikely that they would be friends again. what i'd like to see is carson with brand new people we have seen before so carson could start off fresh and so could we as an audience
Hello???? Still doesn't mean she's underaged, more people have came out with proof and the age range became 13-16 year olds that he has done this to. 😬 none of them consented yet he took advantage of him being a popular youtuber.
@@wren_eleven well send me a link with some proof and I will be open to that, I didnt know of that but if you can provide evidence then yeah,I guess he really did dig himself into a hole
I'm willing to take shit from people about this, but if Carson is seeing a therapist and it's working for him, I'd want to see him come back. He's a human being who made a mistake, and honestly, two high school age people trading nudes, while weird and off-putting, isn't unheard of and people without that level of Fame would likely never catch the level of heat he did for it. If people want to argue a power dynamic issue, I get that it can become predatory in that sense, but Carson wasn't the most socially well versed, and rather than it being him abusing his power was likely just trying to have an intimate connection with SOMEONE. Being putting on a pedestal that high likely makes it difficult to find someone with a genuine interest in you that isn't trying to use you for views or social status. His relationship with is friends is likely damaged beyond repair for lying to them about the situation, and I can understand wanting to hold him accountable for it, but he's a human being who made a mistake, and if he's taking steps to better himself, we can at least try to see where he'll go from here.
idk if it's true. But if it's... I don't think he would be coming back after what happened to EDP. So if it's true, then he is probably going to have to see the end of his life (possibly.
I'm sorry was the controversy over him sending consenual nudes to someone who sent them back? When they were of similar ages? Where's the issue with that?? Literally my entire high school did that with the exception of one or two people
I think you misunderstood the situation. The problem with Carson was that he was very popular UA-camr that took advantage of that popularity to have a relationship with a fan. It’s similar to a teacher sharing nudes with a student, even if they are the same age. Also similar to your boss having a sexual relationship with you even tho he has a significantly bigger power. The power imbalance was the problem, not the age.
@@newtsinsuits237 agreed, and the Narrator's video shed some more light about how he could be an awful manipulative person behind the scenes. but if he can legitimately better himself as a person then I see no reason why he can't come back.
@@totaldramaedited679 that’s like saying you shouldn’t get a ticket for going 5 over the speed limit. You still broke the law even if it was “so close”
To be fair, him getting a therapist and his past of staying inactive during drama kind of explains why he isn't active.
Not really its been over a year at this point
@@bigtimeepic982 its been like 3 months
@@bigtimeepic982 dude what lmao
@@bigtimeepic982 thats not how time works my dude
Holy shit its only been 4 months i thought this happened at the beginning of 2020
13:59
"But it's not like he did a full blown EDP445"
Damn, never thought I'd see Carson be compared with EDP
Everywhere I go, I see your face. Just grow a mustache already!
@@anonanon7986 lmao
Oh there's idiots that genuinely do. It's disturbing that a dude who did some shit with someone within his age range is compared with a 30/40 year old doing REALLY BAD STUFF with 13 year olds.
It shouldn't happen, edp just wanted a cupcake.
@@dannydivito7858 oh brother
To be honest, I find it kind of disturbing that everyone is shocked he's not talking about the drama and dealing with his problems in private. Like, have we degenerated as a species so bad that mental health is now *required* to be broadcasted on every platform?
Amen. As someone with a handful of mental illnesses, being forced to talk about it in front of millions of people and then possibly harassed for it because my illnesses aren't good enough or whatever would make me more likely to collapse. Depression is one thing, but there's even worse illnesses such as borderline personality disorder, what I have, which is like depression but with the added bonus of impulsive, irrational decisions (among many other things), suicide often being one of those decisions. That internet hate and all of those people knowing about your problems just leads to so many thoughts in your head that you can't control. My thoughts go crazy when I feel like someone in my small friend group thinks I'm not perfect. I can't imagine that being amplified to the extremes that internet fame brings. It's better for their mental health to be private. I am happy Carson is being private about his situation. Wouldn't be surprised if his therapist or a friend said it'd be best to not talk about it online.
Ikr, some people early on were even saying carson personally betrayed them. Like come on, we don't even know the specifics of this case and yet some people act like Carson straight did this to insult them.
Though I agree with your point, a lot of the drama would've been avoided if he just responded
@@svarowskylegend more people would have just gotten mad because that’s how Twitter works
@@KingNin64 I disagree, the streamers and YTers who are "uncancallable" are the ones that respond confidently to controversy or just ignore and carry on.
If you know the 2020 Pyrocynical drama, Pyro did way worse than Carson and he just apologized and moved on
Moist said this really well and quickly, "A 17 year old with a 19 year old is not illegal, it's only illegal on Twitter."
and this says 2 things: 1, Twitter is shit. and 2, that if this never came to the internet, literally nothing bad would've happened as it's not like anything was actually illegal, the age gap is borderline the same and is normally when young people date for a bit anyway.
The real concern is it was through his popularity which paints a grey line, but it's still semi justifable if the intentions was to have a relationship, but that's also a grey line too...
Literally 2 years.
It wasn't just the one girl and it wasn't just him soliciting pictures from fans but people like to focus on those things. He'd been just a generally shit friend and shit person behind the scenes and lied to those who supported him over and over.
His old mates had no qualms about throwing him under the bus for a reason. They had to for business reasons cause of their contract with the misfits and Ryan P to save their image but i can't imagine it was as hard as people might think
@@michael6880 Some proof for fact checking and sure, i don't doubt this, but it's also a stretch for a lot of the things stated here for it to just be ignored over everything else too...
Its not even illegal either if it were a crime he would need to be 7 years older than her
@@michael6880 do you have any proof?
"A 17 year old with a 19 year old is not illegal. It's only illegal on Twitter."
Well said, Jesus.
And that’s why Twitter sucks
@@anomaly395 I can't even put together words on how much i hate twitter and its community. Maybe we should cancel Twitter and we should Cancel the ones who like to cancel people.
@@Spectre.... Twitter is a very shitty place. Wait till you hear about ED Twitter and SH Twitter. That place is a fucking cesspool of degenerates.
my girlfriend is 17 and im 20 and we have been dating for 3 years now what the f
@@hyde_stopStealingMyUsername Same thing with me and my ex, it isn’t illegal as long as you’re above or at the age of consent I believe.
The thing that I hate the most is that James Charles gets away with grooming but somebody who actually tries to change himself loses his career and respect.
Edit: I just wanted to say that this was not meant homophobic. I just said it like this because Carson was a content creator I really enjoyed and James isn't.
If he wasn't gay, then he would've been entirely cancelled by now. This proves that twitter and cancel culture are a bunch of liberal knobheads.
Edit: After seeing the REST of the replies, I realized that rational people and liberals dislike James Charles since most people hated him recently. I've also noticed that straight predators always gets away with being predatorial than the gays, James Charles not being cancelled because he's more successful as a beauty UA-camr, and that the people who are defending James aren't "liberals", but far-left. I get that I don't have to be "political" when talking about the gays James Charles and the topic, yet people called me a homophobe and someone told me to "choke on glass" because I made a comment above telling the truth from my own perspective with over 1k likes. Yet from their perspective, they think that I hate gay people because they think me saying "I have nothing against the LGBT community" is an excuse of not caring about the gays, even though I'm NOT a homophobe (evidence below this comment), it's just that I felt so angsty towards the gays when thinking about this situation (excluding rational people apart from that group). I would talk more about what happened, and that I SHOULDN'T have to talk about it, but that's what I have in mind. I feel like I'm in a room filled with idiots.
From what someone said, "this reply section is full of the dumbest people." Call me a homophobe or a political a-hole but those insults won't matter to me in the next couple of years. I knew I'm bound to get haters, I was mad, yet confused after reading the replies. In the end, I'm done making an argument of this dumb fire-with-fire conflict, since people came here to get heat.
@@CuriousOfficial Agreed, but fair note, not all liberals are bad
I'm not nessicarily liberal, but I am neutral-left and a very big lgbt supporter and also lgbt myself.
But what James did was awful and people using him being gay as an excuse to let him get away with it is so stupid. Fuck James.
To be clear, I was born and raised in a liberal state, and I currently reside in another liberal state. I have nothing against the liberals or the LGBT community, but I hate irrational people that make up the majority of the group. I'm more of a centralist/neutralist so if I say that out loud, the community would still bash me because I'm not a part of it. If only social media is run by competent intellects and normal people, but I doubt that would happen.
@@CuriousOfficial Most people don’t like liberals, the left dislikes them but teams up with them to take down trump, while the rest of the right doesn’t even accept liberals as right wing.
If I'm correct James Charles's account is demonitized for a short period on time in UA-cam I really want it to be demonitized permanently
Hearing Carson’s voice as a 12 year old is kinda wild to me cause honestly I didn’t know he started UA-cam when he was a 12 year old and hearing him as a kid it’s just so different compared to his voice now
Fetus Carson
@@appleglassjuice11 ye fetus Carson
Yeah it’s called puberty
@@danzkubanzku4164 oh really now
@@cookiecrumbler2345 really
it's impressive how twitter can ruin everything
I think it's trajic
Deleting Twitter would be the best thing
@@demonking3673 The platform is not the problem; the people within it are. They will simply migrate again as they have before, such as when Tumblr banned NSFW from their platform.
@@arandomguywithastrawhatThat is a very good point.
reddit too
Connor saying that Carson is getting therapy is really reassuring
Ok I'm glad this was posted recently
I miss Carson so much
This at least shows that his friends aren't completely cutting ties and are still keeping up with his progress, albeit not directly.
28 stab wounds?
@@fauzanaziz6365 it's because Connor has said on stream he thinks that friends completely cutting off ties with other people is stupid, best case scenario that's true but just wanted to inform with connor's thoughts on the matter since it might only just be him to feel that way
"It's only illegal on twitter" Best fucking wording ever.
Ikr
Yup. I'm still mad at how everyone kept talking about the 'age difference', instead of focusing on the real issue - the power dynamic.
If it was a normal high school couple it would've been fine, it happens all the time in my school, but since Carson has such a high influence he's in a high pedestal, and such he fell hard, he's lifted to such high standards that he couldn't handle.
Everything is illegal on twitter
@@at_l aw shucks, time to unexist
No matter the person or the drama, I hate seeing Twitter stans say “idk who they are but cancel them” and it just makes you lose faith in humanity
everyone knows who callmecarson is bro. he got cancelled fer a reason, not cause'a some twitter kids LMAAAAAAOOOOOOO
@@gracie-ue3bi youre literaly part of the problem
@@absoluteunit6427 what problem? go ahead dawg
@@gracie-ue3bi The fact that you don't even see yourself as a problem is even more problematic. That is honestly very sad, honey
@@gracie-ue3bi EXACTLY LMAO. everyone is using that excuse of "17 and 19 isnt bad they were just talking." soliciting photos from a minor (aka CP) while you're an adult isn't "talking".
Edit: You poor little kids getting triggered by my comment need to cope and grow a pair ffs 💀
Carson was one of my favorite UA-camrs and I want him to get help just as much as the next guy….but to sit here and act like he’s 100% innocent is just laughable.
Keemstar’s community when he (40) dates an 18 year old: 😴
Keemstars community when Carson(19) dates a 17 year old: 😡😧😬🤯🤯🤯
Maybe people are just focused on the fact that 18 is legal adult age, whereas 17 isn’t. Even then, that is pretty shocking that people ignore other creators who have done worse and instead focus on Carson.
@@DPM_DJ I don't know the law where Carlson lives. But in my country, 19 and 17 would be completely legal
@@AGMarshallnz I looked it up. Carson is from California, and assuming he still lives there, the age of consent there is 18, and anyone under is considered a minor.
A quote from Moist: "A 17 year old with a 19 year old is not illegal, it's only illegal on Twitter."
@@DPM_DJ romeo and juliet laws
I really miss him, he's one of the modern youtubers that has made me laugh a ton, I really hope he gets his mindset on the right position and is getting a good recovering.
Edit: aw shit I forgot there's still people upset at him, sorry if I upset you, I know what he did was wrong but I'm sure he can change and improve
Nuts. Balls, even. Testicles, if you will. Sack, when the time is needed.
Bananas
@@user-hl8cd6ib8c absolutely HALIRIOUS
He posted a video playing with his cat btw
@@yourfather9160 honkers
I thought he was grooming a 12 year old or something for him to get deplatformed, but a 17 year old with a 19 year old????? that's just fucking ridiculous
yeah, that's barely even grooming
Nah i dont really care about that shit,but the first thing i thought about this drama is how carson got backstabbed dude,shit harsh
@@Blades500 it isn't grooming. These twitter people are so fucking idiotic, I've heard that some people say that if two people are dating and they're 17, and one of them gets 18 years old before the other, that they should break up?!?
It's like they see it as if on your 18th birthday your brain completely halts developing and you gain like 100 iq points or something, and it's just completely arbitrary.
By twitters logic if I (25f) dated a 23yr old male I’d be a pedophile. It’s so fucking ridiculous and it makes me angry. We’ve got more traumatic and worrying shit to worry about than this
@@a6shot199 have you ever heard of the Romeo and julliet law? Any relationship with someone within 4 years is legal no matter what. This is only illegal on Twitter, and it's not like turing 18 means your brain suddenly becomes extremely developed. It's a spectrum and 18 is an extremely arbitrary number considering that your mind is fully developed at 25 years old.
Every single video i see with carson the comments are FILLED of "This didnt age well"
Carson: *says minor*
comments: *THAT DIDNT AGE WELL*
more like she didnt age enough
Most of those comments were probably some his fans willing to throw him under the bus for UA-cam likes
@@xd-hc8cc lmao
@@xd-hc8cc This joke doesn't even make sense on any level
I remember when all this was going on I thought it was absolutely ridiculous that people were going crazy over a 2 year age difference and now I think it’s even more ridiculous that he just let it happen, like bro could’ve at least tried to defend himself
All of his "friends" especially that p.o.s. Slimecicle stabbed him on the back
Don't blame him for just giving up on life
@@TulpechaidoplaysMC yea the dude stood no chance and even tho they provided no evidence Jshlatt and Noah ruined him
@@PhoenixAce it sucks because he gave made them successful, stabbed him in the back and now they're way more successful than him. Hopefully carson gets his audience back.
lol yes bro same thing happened to him ua-cam.com/video/tQqnB0xDidw/v-deo.html
i mean if he would have defended himself it would have gotten worse probably
The fact that EDP445 is still making content when Carson just straight up disappeared is so crazy
Aren't his youtube channel is removed?
@@dzaky74 he announced a website or something where hed make stuff
It's not really crazy. They're different types of people from one another, who did different types of things... As well as they're both self employed, no one is forcing them to make or not make content, it's their person choice.
And yes, obviously before someone replies, EDP is banned from youtube, so it's not his choice if he can continue on youtube, but unless he is legally restricted from the internet he can waste his time trying to make more content.
Beta Vs chad
Seems like a good judge of character between EDP and Carson
"Its only illegal on twitter" is probably the best explnation ive even heard
It’s sad that Carson dating a 17 year old was what Twitter freaked out about. Especially sense his friends came out about how manipulative & rude he truly was
@@thunder5026 Yeah, because a 19 year old dating a 17 (almost 18-year-old) is the worst thing ever. Dumbest shit I've ever heard.
@@ava_a313 yeah
@@justamuart no they were completely serious.....
Lmao
Except its illegal irl
I wouldn’t think this whole thing was that big of a deal if Schlatt hadn’t cut ties with him, that one thing makes me feel like something more went on behind the scenes
Oh yeah you're fucked if JSCHLATT thinks you've gone to far lmao
True, I was still going to support him until Jschlatt stepped in. That guy speaks facts
@@isaiahjackson8416 LITERALLY- like if schlatt cuts ties with you, you did some horrible fucked up shit-
im pretty sure there was. the narrator posted a video about carson treated him and raccooneggs. along with that apparently carson told schlatt he would stop, but continued anyways
The entire lunch club cut ties with him I believe
17 y/o and 19 y/o dating are perfectly normal and natural but twitter can’t fathom with that imagine if it was a 19 year old girl Dating a 17 year old boy nothing would happen
And his old crew(jcshlatt, Slimecicle,etc..) also, they are too afraid to get cancelled so they just kick carson's career down a hole, his old crew is piece of degenerate shit.
twitter users will find anything to complain about
Twitter would probably find that hot smh
Twitter users are some of the most idiotic people on this planet.
@@celestial_city i agree, we should honestly just pull a uno reverse card and cancel twitter.
twitter is one of the worst places on earth, if you compare this situation to James Charles it is quite funny because james is 21 and talks to 16 year old, and Carson talked to one consenting 17 year old when he was 19: and he gets completely „canceled“ while James is still on youtube having partnerships with big companies
lgbt gang really is strong
Carson should just come out as gay or trans so everyone forgives him
everyone hates james wdym??
@@acedia2 yeah but he didnt fall off as hard as carson did
@SomeWin SumWon only after like a year mate and also you’re doing the exact same thing that you’re complaining about by bashing conservatives
Seems like Carson decided to correct himself in private instead of having to deal with the blunt of everybody else which could've possibly worsened him some more. Glad that he's deciding to be mature about it and try to correct himself by going into therapy. Hope all goes well for the big man himself!
And that's a fact
Correcting what??
i honestly dont think a 2 year gap is that bad but the grooming is kinda weird
@@clfmoanium9413 What grooming? Explain.
@@hardy_har689 the age isn't what most people are mad about its the power dynamic between him and a fan
Honestly, I don't even mind if he ends up not wanting to continue making content. Just knowing that he's safe and getting help is all I care about anymore.
It wouldn't be a weird decision either. I'd also lose all motivation to make content for a community this toxic.
@@eilivulv The community really does not deserve him.
Knowing he's still alive would be lovely, yes.
The whole thing isn't even that bad. She is only two years younger. He could have waited a bit for her to turn 18
@@allxrtx6594 twitter people really don't deserve a platform
19 and 17 is not even remotely close to being illegal. I find it disgusting that people were making that drama such a big deal since, it takes away attention from real victims. NPC's
dude age of consent is `6 in most state, i couldnt agree with u less lol, ur so right fuck twitter
This is so such not a scandal. I honestly don’t understand
I was led to believe it was some 20 year old dating a child or something. Good god the internet blew this out of proportion. Poor guy, I hope he's doing well and makes a return someday.
@Some corrupted dude who's racist We can’t have anything good in this world, can we?
The thing is that he may have been interacting with girls younger then 17, and I’m saying “may have been” very lightly Bc most people are pretty sure he did, especially because one of his closest friend at the time filed a police report on him after hearing what Carson did
@@vacou2016 16 is still legal in Indiana, and 16-19 isn't that bad either (it's just one year).
@@burger84. so long as there's a Twitter or Twitter equivelant, then no, we cannot
Omg I was led to believe it was a 24 year old man and a 17 year old girl. I'm never going to believe twitter goers again.
Idk why, but it's so funny to me, but in a strange way, also extremely sad, that Carson's last words were "If you spell your name wrong on an IQ test does your score get knocked down"😂😂
I thought his last words were, “wanna play funny sticks?”
Nah, it was “Banger Tweet”
@@froglad1225 indeed it was
@@notanymore166 do you know da way
@@moji3812 do U know da wae?
to call him a p3do genuinely makes me feel quite upset as someone who has actually had to deal with real ones in my life. im not sure if other people who have been thru similar feel the same but when its a 2 year diff between two consenting people it just makes real victims look like a joke. it actually makes me sick.
they couldve been in the same grade it doesnt make any sense its so stupid
@SomeWin SumWon yes i completely agree with you. im sorry that you had to go through that. ❤️
@@baraness24 you can vote at 18, not 19
@@VentA_7 ...and if you're 19 when voting season comes, you can vote...?
YES! When people were calling him that I genuinly thought he was on some EDP445 shit - but 17 and 19? Thats not wierd at all. The only thing that made it kinda messed up was there most likely being a power imbalance, but in no way is he a p3do or anything. Its so overblown :(
Good news: He's back! He came back in September 2021, for anyone seeing this who hasn't stayed caught up.
rlly??
Thanks for the update!
Yeah, just 12 days ago he posted a new video.
The problem is that if he comes back his content is gonna be different because all his friends cut ties with him
i think some like connor and schlatt would be willing to give him another chance, since connor is still somewhat in contact with him, and schlatt and carson were really close friends
@@TheWither129 Pretty sure schlatt said he gave Carson another chance but found out Carson was still messaging the girl so I doubt he's gonna give him a third
If he comes back they'll come back to him to keep leeching his clout
@@enotsnavdier6867 What clout? Most of Carson's old friends have made careers for themselves and Carson's reputation is basically ruined so they wouldn't want to associate with him anyway.
@SomeWin SumWon that’s not the point, the thing is he used his fame
To say I'm relieved that Carson is alive and getting the help he needs would be an understatement, words can not describe how glad I am knowing our lad is getting better
he didn’t even do it
@@LevityLL say again? I don't know what you mean
@@Catheur I think he's saying that Carson didn't grope a under age person?
@Riv Dog yeh,
But apparently,
He’s getting the help he needs
So, we’ll have to wait and see
i know i smiled so big. you could tell he was always so down bad and im happy he’s getting better
Cancelled YT'er: deny, deny, deny, act like it didn't happen.
People: just admit it and go away!
Carson: goes away to get mental help and leaves the internet because he is a level headed and calculated person.
People: OMG he's so scared he won't face the drama!
like, man 🙄🙄
Was there confirmed anywhere that he went out to get help? If he would hypothetically come back, that would just make him be on the first category anyways. Even if he wouldn't make any apology.
@@end4567 I would also like to know if he got help
@@end4567 probably wasn't and its just youtube comments reaching at straws for likes
I mean, the guy straight up admitted it, didn't pull the shit EDP pulled yesterday of not addressing shit online, Carson's first reaction to this shit being public was admitting he fucked up and leave the internet for what he did. I hope he can come back because many people I watch keep leaving :/, not that what he did wasn't bad, but I was there for his style of humor tbh, and there is no other like him sadly
@@Gaming_Legend2 yeah man like edp is really trying to make a comeback on facebook and his own website and that dude did way worse than carson. edp is just plain stupid
18 and 30: its ok
17 and 19: He needs to be put in jail!!
18 and 40 you mean, which is pretty much Keemstar's situation ironically. But as long as it's not freshly 18 it's apperantly fine by Twitter
@@manporo5865 but Twitter did attack George for Catibugs age (she was 18 and a half by the time the "event" took place) yet george got called a groomer and all this terrible stuff. Im so glad to never have made a Twitter and never will
I hate this UA-cam dynamic where things can’t just be sorted out privately, honestly I believe that Keemstar is one of the biggest reasons for why Carson disappeared.
Really I think it was more Noah
From his tweets he seemed really malicious about it all. Just seems like a scumbag to me
I agree that drama culture is toxic af, but he is a public figure and what he did, was with a fan. It needed to be spoke out in public to let it be known, it's not ok. There's a reason why so much shit happened in Hollywood and no-one was saying anything
I'm pretty sure his friends did sorted it out privately but he did not change which made his friends turn on him after refusing to change
Personally, I think Keemstar is the real villian here. He always leaves out important details and exaggerates the situation to make the other person look bad for views. He never gets to the point right away, and recently on Twitter he did some racist shit and tried to manipulate his fanbase into tweeting #GOODGUYKEEM by luring them wish CashApp like a bunch of 10 year olds on a treadmill running after a ROBLOX giftcard hanging from a fishing rod.
It honestly makes me sick that Noah and Traves didn’t see a problem with going to Keem. Dude is famous for blowing shit out of proportion and being an all around scumbag. It just seems very malicious.
17 and 19 is normal, theres absolutley nothing wrong with it. I want carson back.
It's less the ages and more the influence he had over her
@@Jef_Jingles So youtubers should never date anyone who isnt a youtuber then? What if one person has 100k subs and the other has 3 million? You make no sense
@@Jef_Jingles just shut up already, y'all people make no sense
@@felianya you have brain worms
@@Jef_Jingles and you have shingles.
sad to think about the fact no matter if he comes back or not, his content will never be the same without the lunch club members being in his main channel and vods channel videos.
No his content wouldn't be the same because the comments would just be full of pedophile jokes
@@providethem i mean, deserved tbh. he was literally in possession of cp, i'm surprised people have already "forgiven" him when they obviously don't have the right to forgive carson, but rather the victims should make that choice.
@@diorsse i mean no but no and also still no.
@@diorsse the ‘victim’ came out and said it was for attention and she only came out with the allegations to get back at him for not getting with her, and then got her account deleted, shes not a victim
@@diorsse well no, second no, then no, after that no, lastly, no.
This is sick because in the uk it's perfectly legal, 16 is the age of consent and, 2 years difference isn't even that bad, he doesn't deserve that at all. hope the dudes doing ok.
it's fine in the US too, 17/19 kinda things are legal lol
@@andpeggy9554 yea you are right actually
He is doin pretty good tho I think he dropped most of that stuff to try and raise money for a charity for a full year on stream and it worked- he said something about wanting to do it again but he’s really making a relatively good comeback
It’s fine in the US too. Romeo and Juliet laws. Imagine you started dating someone who was 16 when you were 17. You turned 18 and she turned 17. Not illegal. Neither is 19 and 17. Twitter should be removed from the face of the internet
Well here in sweden it's more than fine. If both parties are over 15 and wants it, it's legal.
“Underage fans” they make it the girls are 13.
Even charlie said it him self.
“Its not illegal, its only illegal in twitter.”
Twitter is such a dumb app. We should cancel twitter.
Charlie is dumb
@@ryandsouza8495 I disagree
@@nika_0 ok idc?
@@ryandsouza8495 if you didn't care, you wouldn't have replied
It's getting to the point where I think Twitter should just be banned
The saddest part is, even if carson returns, the Lunch Club will never be the same
if he comes back it wont be with the lunch club probably
It’s really upsetting that the Lunch Club went their separate ways... my little brother’s group of gaming friends names themselves The Lunchtable Gang in their honor
It's hard to deny that Schlatt and the rest threw him under the bus. Whatever they were talking between each other, and however much Carson was not keeping his promises of changing, they decided to break up their friendship, and "expose him" on a public platform instead of doing it in private. Sucks for Carson.
@@sirilthefirst8971 Yeah it's shitty how they went to Keemstar
@@sirilthefirst8971 Yeah, what kind of friends are those? Real friends don't abandon each other, they support and help each other. At least that's what I think.
I feel like Carson left at first to let the drama boil down with time and then later on stayed off because he was getting help
So dumb lmaoo. Help for what ? It’s not unnatural to be into a 17 year old when you’re 19....this is the dumbest cancellation I’ve ever seen
Smoemper King of bricks oh true I guess. Didn’t think of that but also I don’t really think THAT many people hate him. It’s literally a small minority on twitter. If he never stopped posting...most people wouldn’t even have remembered it by now.
@@matthewandrew8423 the age wasn’t the issue for me it was exploiting a fan
Stupid boii that’s so dumb lol. Carson was a fuckin meme and barely had a million followers on twitter or UA-cam back then.
Also how is using your extremely good looks to get nudes any different from using your fame to get nudes ? Heck people
Literally pay for nudes too. Is that exploiting as well ? Y’all are wack.
Exploiting can only be done if the person has power over you that’ll effect your life I.E a manger/Teacher/Boss/Employer etc etc
@@matthewandrew8423 There's actually a good reason it's called exploiting a fan. I really don't believe Carson to be malicious or anything like that, but the power dynamic still works. Since she was a fan, she already idolized/looked up to Carson. I don't think/can't know if he did it knowingly, but the point still stands.
Also, I wouldn't call it some small twitter minority. There were tons and tons of videos popping up about the drama, he lost 270 thousand subscribers and a lot of people certainly were talking about it
I didn’t realize that there was such a small age difference. My best friend is 17 and dating a 20 year old and it’s honestly a pretty healthy relationship.
I don't even get how one could see something awful / forbidden there. Is it really the US' legal system where being 18 or not marks this hard border as to what's legal or not? Is it, in the same vein, problematic for those people to have a partner two weeks younger when one turns 18 and the other one's still 17? Very weird moral compass...
@@Balotoviit's legal for 17-19, twitter people just lack any form of brain
@@Balotovi Theres a grace period of a few years because of exactly this. The exact laws vary state to state but you arent gonna go to jail because you had a birthday
@@OlCrunchy Oh alright, so completely normal relationships like 16 and 18 or 17 and 19 are generally still allowed because of this? That's relieving to hear I guess. But doesn't that mean that Carson's actions really weren't illegal? So what actually is the problem of the community?
@@Balotovi clout chasing. Everyone hates pedophiles, as they should, and saying “_____ was chatting up an underage girl, breaking news!!” easily whips people into a frenzy when they aren’t also given full context
carson’s laugh backed with the minecraft music. my eyes are leaking
Leaking lmfao
Same
666th like
I literally cried, I just wanted him back
:(
11:54 for those who wanna skip his life story and get straight to the recent stuff
Thx
Not the hero we deserve, but the hero we need
Thank you
ty for this
Much appreciated, king
She was 17 and he was 19? People made it seem like he was 20 txting a 13yo
Fr, also isn’t the age of consent in Indiana (where carson is from) 16?
@@Sorrow.. I’m not sure but 2 years apart isn’t a big deal imo. Maybe if Carson was 25 at the time or something.
They were basically the same age. One was about to finish HS and the other just got done with it.
The entire time I thought this stuff JUST happened and the girl was like 13-14 lol
@@kevinarzola4781 i know, i’m not disagreeing with you, just helping the idiots who think he’s a pedophile
Its mostly that he lied to his closest friends
Yeah all this wouldn’t of happened if Carson was 17 and the girl was 19.
Honestly as far as how he handles drama I have a lot of respect for Carson. He takes a step back from the media and handles it in private and gets the help he needs. Instead of most media figures now who blast every second of drama to get more views.
lol yes bro same thing happened to him ua-cam.com/video/tQqnB0xDidw/v-deo.html
Carson feels like a ghost.... he died a few months back, but signs of him are around the internet. I hope he's getting the help he needs, and that he's happy. I don't care if he comes back, I just want him to be happy.
He died figuratively or literally?
@@gounthers figuratively.
he tweeted today btw
@@Reklesslol oh shit really?
yeah but then he said it was accidental
I honestly have a lot of respect for Carson since hes trying to change himself and is making sure not to rush and put more stress on himself.
i’m proud to give you your 40th like because i couldn’t agree more
he pulled a pyro and admitted what he did, why it’s wrong, and why he’s sorry for it
My question is, why the hell are you all freaking out? A two year difference? If you switched the roles and Carson was seventeen and she was nineteen no one would blink an eye. Shit if he wasn’t an “influencer” no one would blink an eye. Lmao poor dude has most of his friends saying shit like “I’m glad he’s getting the help he needs” he didn’t do anything wrong besides become an influencer.
@@CarlosianBigWang
Thank you. 19-17, 18-17 happens hella times in school. Some niggas blowing this shit out of proportion and making Carson seem like a legit predator. It was illegal what he did, yes, but the term predator doesn’t go here
@@CameronKujo the wrong thing is abuse of power, which honestly is sometimes unavoidable in these times, which can cause stuff like this.
As someone who was a huge Carson fan, I’m really glad he is getting therapeutic help. Him getting a cat is probably another thing helping him get a better mindset.
He has such a gorgeous kitten. Glad that he seems to be doing better now!
Until it becomes a shane daws- /j
@@doggy_ded_dingus not funny
@@doggy_ded_dingus lmao
Duality of man ^
I met my boyfriend when I was 15 and we’ve been together for years. He’s 19 and I’m 18, but I just turned 18 last month, therefore it was the same age gap. We have a great relationship and that age difference of about a year means absolutely nothing. I can’t believe this situation happened over that… Carson has been and will be my favorite UA-camr. Been watching him for 3 years
15 and 17 being together until 19 and 17 and meeting at 19 and 17 are different but i still don’t think 17 and 19 are bad i wouldn’t do it myself just because i’m going to college next year and couldn’t see myself with someone still in highschool because i am in no serious relationship atm.
@@kel_ganja if you care more about what someone is doing then the connection you'll have with them, then you'll never be happy.. focus on the fucking connection before anything else, everything else will fall into place naturally smfh
Carson is the only youtuber with these allegations who has actually decided to get therapy, and I'm happy for him and hope he's able to make a comeback.
If anybody deserves a comeback, it's Carson
also Zero
@@Misimi Zero does not deserve a comeback, I hope he's doing better but he should not come back.
@@yourmum6528 I'm pretty sure they were talking about getting therapy, not coming back
I'm not sure it'd be good for him to make a comeback.
17 and 19 is normal!! thats when my parents got together, people blew this out of preportion. i hope carson is getting therapy not just for that but for the impact the hate probably had on him, i hope he returns.
There an underlying tone though that he likely felt. He felt he used his position on the platform to request something of someone. I dont know the full story but regardless of age, its a harsh feeling for him to disgest that he did im sure. It being a "minor" might have made it look and feel worse than it really was.
yeah, there’s literally of thousands of relationships between high school seniors and juniors that become a relationship between a 19 year old and 17 year old when the senior graduates high school. it’s 100% normal, though there was some sort of usage of his fame involved, far worse things have gone unpunished in the world
lol yes bro same thing happened to him ua-cam.com/video/tQqnB0xDidw/v-deo.html
people just get crazy whenever the 18 years old line is crossed
like dude, you aint gonna have a whole mind reboot and maturity boost at 00:00 of your birthday
The messages and screenshots are the reason people blew it out of proportion
Man, truthfully I thought he did something vile like being 20 and texting a 12 year old. But this just shows Twitter is a cesspool of actual garbage. This is awful. The truth feels as though it was so hard to find casually as well.
I hope he gets better and focuses on himself. The world is shit, and he just needs to care about himself and no one else. Hope he’s doing alright now.
@@Le_Bicar wafle island but no waffle planet :(
Cancel Twitter!
It took me a while to get to know that since everyone kept talking about Carson grooming a minor. Now I know why, noone wanted to tell the age of the girl since it destroys the point
lol yes bro same thing happened to him ua-cam.com/video/tQqnB0xDidw/v-deo.html
Carson doesn't have to worry about Twitter anymore. Elon Musk got that covered.
The fact that people lost their shit about a 19 year old doing shit with a 17 year old is wild. People acting like a 19 year old and a 17 year old is the same as some 40 year old trying to get at a 14 year old or something is really fuckin pathetic. People need to get some hobbies. I also don't get the "he didn't deal with it" how the fuck is he supposed to deal with it? Make some shitty apology video? The internet wouldn't care, they already saw him as some turbo creep and nothing he said or did would change that. going radio silent is really the only good option.
shit I was dating a girl in high school who was younger then me and we dated until I was 20, and at one point I was 18 while she was 17, so I guess I'm a disgusting groomer pedophile.
Yeah, it's incredibly common ironically.
Both young.. the audacity to call it pedophilic, while in just 1 year no one would ever say something because she got 1 more year and is now 18.. just ridiculous to cancel people for this stuff
I watched him grow his channel to such a substantial point with iconic/nostalgic moments along the way, seeing that he’s getting professional help is more than an apology and going that length goes to show how he’s trying. Not a lot of channels have made me laugh as much as carson did and since he’s left I’ve been more bummed than usual
that is a GORGEOUS pfp
When trollge is sad😌👊
Actions speak louder than words. People just apologize for anything and everything but dont even mean it to begin with. If hes getting help it shows that he not only acknowledges what he did was wrong but that he wants to take the initiative to make that change
He was already going through psychological troubles before all this, his gf cheated with him with a close friend, then the internet started canceling him, and all his other friends sold out and distanced themselves from him for what really turned out to be a hit-piece on him. Of course he'd be tired of all of it.
Wasn't it revealed that she wasn't his girlfriend, and Fitz had asked him if he was cool with him hitting on her?
I haven't heard anything about that, but why would he throw away his on camera friendship just to have fake beef?
@@Kazuron to deflect how shitty he is
@@Kazuron Yeah I'm not sure about the validity of the claim, I only heard it one time back in January, and I don't remember where.
I sort of feel like that was the beginning of the end, when he didn't take among us seriously. Around that time, he was already being sort of outcasted by people
The way of youtube in the future will be faceless with how the internet has been in the last few years.
Everyone will accuse each other of pedophilia, until nothing remains, and the real predators emerge since everyone has cannibalized each other.
@@boid9761 “and when everyone is cancelled… NO ONE WILL BE”
@@Elemtree is this a incredibles
reference? I'm not sure :P
@@Verza488 Yea
@@Elemtree syndrome?
I'm 30 and Carson is a gem, and it's pretty endearing that he wasn't in the wrong and still cancelled himself
I’m torn.
If he does come back, I don’t know if he will just make up with all of his old friends or not.
It’s possible he does, or maybe finds a new group of people, but if he comes back and does solo content, I don’t think it will be the same. I just miss when I could watch him and laugh and forget about drama.
Since people like Connor are talking about him getting better, he might have some people to make content with. And who knows? With all the shit that has happened with other content creators, maybe he can make peace with the likes of Slimecicle and Schlatt as well.
@@flat-seventh I really hope him and schlatt make peace. It would be really nice to see them make content together again and could be really funny but even if that ends up not being the case, it would be nice to see them on good terms again. But we can only leave that up to schlatt and his opinions about Carson moving forward.
I think Jawsh and Carson would still be on good terms. Jawsh was there for Carson since 2k subscribers and imo piggybacked off Carson’s success, not in a bad way tho. That being said I definitely think they are still in contact at the very least.
lets be real, carson is too awkward to get past this with the same humor, or without massively awkward sections where he gets lost in his thoughts after certain jokes .
even if what carson did was wrong, whoever in his friend circle that was okay with telling keemstar about this stuff basically backstabbed him, so idk how willing he'd be to make up with them in particular
and by "backstab," i mean telling keemstar in particular, not talking about the incident in general
they should NOT have gone to the gnome, wtf were they thinking
my favorite part of that cat video on his ig story is how happy he sounds. he seems to be doing well with his new cat and is enjoying himself while taking a break away from the shithole known as the internet
yessssssssssss its good to take a break once in a while, i quit twitter and now my braincells have gotten back :)
@@sunshinelil1966 I’ve never used Twitter but I do hope I will never use it.
@@-rested-7927 good, stay that way, because i have been scarred for my life when i have been there 😔
Me too, i felt a swell of relief when i heard him laugh.... im glad hes ok now
it kinda looks like travis’ cat kimchi when he was a kitten, do you know for sure it was a recently taken vid and it’s definitely his cat?
I honestly had NO IDEA Carson only started to gain momentum in 2018. My old childhood friend showed me CallMeCarson back in 2014.
He wasn't even around in 2014.
@@Sheoll6lmao did you watch the video? He created the callmecarson channel in 2012
Loved the Minecraft music background.😊
THIS MAN isn't like the other youtubers making apology videos. He didn't make a fake video saying "sorry" and hoping it would be okay, instead he spent the time to reflect on his actions and get therapy. HE out of all the people i the world deserves to be un-cancelled
I agree
He shouldn’t be cancelled for talking to a 17 year old thats the age of consent
@@ShisuiGaming they lived in different states so by law if they both live in different states the consent age is automatically 18
@@cantpunkmeh not with romeo and juliet laws
@@ShisuiGaming I'm pretty sure that he got cancelled vecause he used the fact that he was famous. then if im wrong sorry my bad
I’m genuinely happy that Carson is doing alright, i don’t care if the internet would still be hard pressed on him, I just want to know he’s alive and well
Why do you wish for his wellness dude literally committed a felony and should be in prison lmao.
@@drewb3108 ?????
@@drewb3108 probably because he is trying to improve himself, he did shit but is feeling ashamed of it. You can hate him but also have to give freedom to people to support this.
he did nothing that actually was harmful or permanent, it was on the border of it and he realized that.
@@laqu. and he was 21 and she was 17. Still a four year age gap and over 18 but it’s not as bad as other things. 17-18 not too far(well that’s me saying that as a 17 yr)
Honestly, at least he owned up to it, admitted to being ashamed of himself and didn't drag on the situation like other people do. I'm glad he's taken time away and is really trying to work on himself and his own mental health so he can be a better person.
love your ironic name. and yeah, hes one of the few dumb eedeeot people... who did the right thing.
lets hope that, like jontron, he comes back in a year or so
@@theALTF4 thanks and yes I hope so too. I never watched Carson before all this but I knew of him and knew how popular he was.
The only thing he has to he ashamed of is for not thinking about the girls that might have most likely not want to engage in wwierd shet
I mean at least he didn’t pull a mini lad
says somebody with an lgbt flag as pfp
I hope he feels well now! I feel so bad for him. He worked so hard for his channel and then this happens. He doesn't have to apologize for having a relationship with someone who's 2 years younger than him. Legally it's seen as having a relationship with a minor, but in reality so many people have relationships when they are these exact ages.
I hope people back off and let him be if he comes back ☺️
This is the embodiment of that one meme
Me - 17 / my gf - 16
Society: :)
Me - turns 18 / my gf - turns 17
Society: >:(
and why exactly should you care what dumb people think?
@@milchi5122 Becuase it could have many ramifications. Social issues often bleed into actual, tangible places like jobs. If bad words gets out about you, it could seriously put your well being on the line.
Well for something like that, yeah. I do feel like a good chunk of people thinks that is dumb.
ppl were mad bc he was a cc and she was a fan. the power dynamic was wack.
@@milchi5122 the thing you said, is toxic positivity. it has no purpose or benefits, just something to make you feel better for 5 seconds.
How is "dating" someone who's 17 bad when you're 19? It's like the most normal age dynamic ever.
Shes underage, hes an adult, thats a little fucked up especially if shes underage
@@aaaaaaaaaaaaabbbb in alot of places that is legal
@@Raspberry1111 oh well, that's ok then. I mean it is a 2 yr gap, no one should give a shit
@@aaaaaaaaaaaaabbbb 2 yr age gap u stupid thats nothing
@@aaaaaaaaaaaaabbbb it's only 2 years, my parents are 4 years apart
Tbh the reason why I know him is because the cry meme thing. It's funny as hell.
yea pretty sure most pople know him through the meme
Shut up
@@hud56 yep that how I found out about him
@@doritos9225 calm down roblox kid
I found out who he was when I started watching swaggersouls and he started making fun of the situation
Good News: He is back and he is still a legend
im with critikal, 17 and 19 isn't ilegall at all, its illegal on twitter
it looks bad, maybe they should've waited until she's 18
Federally it is illegal over the internet. But to be frank I can't wholly disagree there.
It's not a very large gap, and details are always scarce.
@@The2ndUsername in the internet this is illegal but in rl its fine, my point is this happened online which is illegal and sketchy :/
There's actually a law that allows +2 -2 in terms of relationships
If he had just waited until she was 18... since the legal issue is he technically owned CP since she was 17 at the time. He isnt a pedophile by any means but it was technically illegal.
A 18 year old and a 20 year old date, and nobody bats an eye…
A 17 year old and a 19 year old date, and everyone looses their minds…
True
A 20 year old dating an 18 year old is just as creepy in my opinion.
@@SATANS_SPHYNX Bruh lol
I mean as long as if it's a joke like, it would be crossing the line if they sent pics of their..parts.. like a simple sexual text that's all as long it doesn't cross the line.
@@SATANS_SPHYNX Guess a lot of people's parents, who have age gaps ranging from over 2 or so years (myself included) are creepy and should be put to shame then :V
It's so wierd that He lost 270.000 subscibers because He was in a "relationship" with a 17 year old when He was 19, thats a two year gap, wich is completly normal.
And on indiana 16 is like 18 on us
@@darkadoodle3542 copy paste
I'm pretty sure that people were more concerned with the power dynamic that Carson had over them. They'd do most of the things he'd ask for because they idolized him, and people saw that as possibly manipulative and/or abusing the fame and power that he had.
Although I don't think he deserved to get as much hate as he did.
@SomeWin SumWon People still idolized him and even with what you described, he still has power over his fans since he's famous and they like him?
@SomeWin SumWon When someone you idolize asks for something, there's an almost guaranteed chance you'd do it. The person may have not been forced to do so, but manipulated into doing so.
I've said all I needed/wanted to say here. Ultimately, I don't think Carson had bad intentions, he just needed to put his bad habits under control.
This is why I don't use Twitter for any usable information ever.
@Xdelta_ If not being a rock bashing window licking quarter swallowing cousin fucking nitwit constitutes intelligence, then yeah I'm an intellectual.
The world would be a better place if Keemstar could just trip down a long flight of stairs
He is just the messenger, i doubt he does it to tear people down, if you get on to him you might as well get onto a news reporter for reporting on something you don't like
@@Solaris_347 he literally makes every situation seem worse than it is
@@JL-iu6ps While that is true, its in the name of viewership, I dont promote it but it works
@@Spootprime now compare him to people like Tucker Carlson form FOX, see the similarity?
Its called putting a character, reactions bring viewers, viewers make money
Money is money
Yeah then someone else would just replace him and the cycle would continue
imagine being judged for texting someone 2 years younger than you. this world is fucking mad.
There is texting and there is texting in a sexual manner, he is a pedo
Ur right
Meanwhile you've got older rich dudes in their plus fifties dating women that are thirty years younger and that's perfectly "fine". I feel like you should date within your age range, because if he or she can be your parent/grandparent, that might be a little too much.
@@someguy2744 It’s about the brain being developed enough for you to understand making complex decisions like if you’re ready for the next step in relationships ect, adults have this ability children don’t.
imagine being 20 grooming teenagers f you think a pedo grooming kids is okay then you are the problem as well
Carson’s laugh was probably the most contagious and heart warming laugh I heard. I really hope he’s doing ok.
same
Shut up
@@doritos9225 oh no, some 2 year old doesn't like a wholesome laugh from a normal guy
@@Ghost-og4ol im not 2 im 6 idiot
@@doritos9225 bruh
tbh i never understood why he was cancelled. When I was 17 I was friends with benefits with a 19 year old for a year. I also dated a guy 2 years younger than me senior year of highschool. the ago of consent in my state is 16 and no one ever thinks there is anything wrong with those types of relationships , we all went to highschool together
🛣️👆
I had a dream where Carson came back into streaming with messy hair and just doing normal Carson things, I think its a sign.
@ParticlesLC i get dreams telling me something will happen and my mom like 2 years ago she had a dream the stores were empty
@ParticlesLC l
Dude, this is so weird. I had a similar dream last night that the previous members of Lunch Club were doing a live stream then Carson joined in unexpectedly and it was awkward. He's just chillin' in everyone's dreams I guess.
He put a video of him and his cat on his insta story a few days ago for like 5 minutes 🤔
i had a dream that he uploaded a video called "apology" that was just ten minutes of him eating cereal in silence
A 19 year old has been flirting with a 17 year old.
OH THE HORROR -_-
@@gazingatthesky Yeah, 2 year gaps make a BIGGGGGGG difference.
@@gazingatthesky 17 and 19 isn’t illegal. You do know that right?
@@gazingatthesky they’re both teens
@@gazingatthesky no it's not the age gap it's the fact that he's using his power to get pictures it's a power that's the thing the people get angry that's why they're getting angry that's why he should've been canceled it's because he's dating a fan it's so easy to figure this out I don't get it
no this is so stupid it's not the age gap it's the fact that he's using his power to get pictures it's a power that's the thing the people get angry that's why they're getting angry that's why he should've been canceled it's because he's dating a fan it's so easy to figure this out I don't get it
To me Carson is the only one who is actually represented as a HUMAN who makes MISTAKES and not just some robot whos supposed to be perfect. I really the miss the dude, his content is what inspired me to start making content again and I do hope to see a return sometime in the future.
u dont need to be a robot to know not to actively prey on underage ppl
@@yamama84982 Underage? The Problem is that he Manipulated his fucking fans
17 and 19 is not a big difference wtf.
@@yamama84982 First of all, he knew what he was doing was wrong on the inside. The fact that he even spoken out to his friends about it at first means that he's a genuine good person at heart. It's just that quitting what he saw as a harmful addiction for so long was a tough pill to swallow. Sexual instincts are a bitch-and-a-half to manage.
Second of all, regretting it doesn't justify his past actions. However, that doesn't mean we throw him in the trash bin forever. Like every good-natured human being, they need to be forgiven when they fuck up, especially when they're sorry, and in distress. 'Not distressed because they don't want anyone to find out, but because they truly want to stop, and want to change for the good.
Third of all, let's be honest, Twitter made Carson look like Satan for a full-ass-month-and-so-on.
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@@nullified77 so what you meant here is that we need to give carson a second chance to make a redemption for his mistake after the backlash from Twitter mobs?
17 and 19 is not even bad. I hope the legend come back
I don't watch carson, but this definitely has the feel of someone who either was so ashamed of their past that it being brought to the public made them curl up in a corner out of shame and disgust of themselves. Or he's seen how this goes with most people and frozen like a deer in headlights, absolutely terrified.
Then after a long time, gets therapy, and gets a new kitten to ease their mind and help them come back to reality.
I mean seeing how Schlatt got a new cat recently, and is having an absolute blast, I think a cat is also in order for Carson lmao
Or he ventilates his head with a boomstick. Only time will tell.
@@chancedavis6216 yo wtf
It's just sad that he didn't even do anything bad
@Le' Phanx A dog would work too, I only said kitten because that's what he got.
Today is Carson’s birthday. I hope he’s doing something fun and taking a break from UA-cam. He needs it.
oh dang. i had no idea it was his bday today. sheesh
happy birthday
happy belated BDAY
i was hoping he would at least tweet about his break, not as in coming back but as just a little information
@@yungdobermann the dude is suffering emotionally a lot. he probably doesnt know how to handle the fame. he needs someone to talk to properly about his problems but feels "too much in his shell" to do it properly.
Back when I first discovered Carson on UA-cam he was literally the only UA-camr that I had ever watched that was able to make me consistently laugh at every single video and he is still, to this day, the only one who has ever done that. I hate all the drama and I personally hope he can get better and be in a better mental place.
Well,he got a cat which is really good for therapy patients and he seems realy happy with the cat laughing constantly
still cant believe he was cancelled over that... glad hes still uploading
1:37 "What happend to CallMeCarlson?"
Proceeds to tell us the *start* of the channel
It’s crazy how both the rise and fall of CallMeCarson occurred on Discord.
lmaooo
Illumanati confirmed
It ended were It started
It becomes full circle
Discord is fucking shit.
All this over texting a 17 year old when he was 19? That’s ridiculous.
@@cheemythedrunkmonke what power? If anything she was more dominant than he was in the text that whole power dynamic thing is bullshit
@@ferchobihh6585 ik that im just saying both had power i mean
@@cheemythedrunkmonke if they both had power, wouldn't that mean they had an equal power dynamic?
@@Meimoons basically
@@cheemythedrunkmonke so youre admitting they couldnt force each other to do anything if it was equal... therefore invalidating your point
Man this made me want to cry
Carson is so close to my age I can't imagine being thrown off the internet by such a large mob. I miss him
You probably have a pizza face, just like him
@@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 wtf that’s horrible and unnecessary
@@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 ngl this is the first negative reply to a carson comment I've gotten
I expected better
@@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 funny bait 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234 a kid trying to be mean thats funny
I’m going to come out and say the age thing is stupid. 2 years is nothing. It’s the fact that it was a creator-fan interaction that creeped me out, and the lying to the friends. I have been depressed before. When depressed you do stupid shit, treat your friends terribly, and struggle hard. No matter if you forgive him or not, let’s just hope he stays safe
Edit: If you are confused why I found the whole situation creepy, go watch Schlatt’s weekly slap video on it. Sums up the situation pretty well.
Yeah I'm glad ge didn't just come back with an apology and got professional help instead. Having an audience when ur depressed is dangerous.
@@zeemdotexe I completely agree and think more creators need to reach out to professionals. The internet is an intense place
@@sydneybeaa its not really the internet its UA-cam. it is a breeding ground for depression.
@@panic5306 Maybe, but other sites are hard as well. I am a streamer so I’m all over the place, and my personal experience with twitter has been the hardest haha
@@sydneybeaa I didn’t think about the environments of twitch and other streaming sites. I’m not as involved as I’d like to be there but from what I can tell Twitch seems to care more about their creators than youtube. Then again I don’t truly know what it’s like over there.
I knew Carson back in 2019 and found him very entertaining and genuine. It's truly a shame what happened but he doesn't deserve to be hated so much. I'm glad he's doing okay, however.
Also really nice touch on Minecraft soundtrack in the video since he started the career with the said game.
No way, I just found this video now because I was going through your videos. Out of curiosity I thought I’d double check his channel towards the end of the video, with all the talk of him maybe coming back, and he posted a video just five days ago. The timing’s kinda crazy
Actually, I’m quite curious to hear about what you think of his return. I just took a look and it seems like he’s spent a long time dedicating himself to charity work
The fact somthing called "The Drama Community" exist makes me realize some people will consume anything
Go into any checkout line in any major store and there's tons of shit like the Inquirer or the Daily Mail that's effectively just gossips rags. Shit is as old as humanity itself.
@@LiterallyWho1917 true people have been criticizing ANYTHING since recorded history. (shout out to that Samuel Pepys who criticized Romeo and Juliet back in 1662, calling it, "a play of itself the worst I have ever heard in my life.")
Kill em all
@@Leatherface123. nah , rather give them a taste of their own medicine. I remember when they some of them tried to dogpile on pyrocynical like Turkey Tom. if you're going to talk about shit you're not knowledgeable about just don't talk.
I will consume the drama community
Friendly reminder that just because a UA-camr is inactive for a long time doesn’t mean they’ve straight up passed away.
*cough cough* coryxkenshin
*cough* *cough* Michael Reeves
@@hazmatfirehero6318 wait what
@@rusty_cheech9724 WATCH OUT FOR THE TAZERS
Cough cough gambino
The video of the cat with Carson laughing in the background made my heart happy. You can see he's doing better by stepping back from the "Influencer" role but still keeps up with his favorite creators such as Ludwig. I just hope he can find himself going into a happier, healthier mindset. I wouldn't want him to post more content if all it did was hurt him. I do miss his content tho. Not just him but also his LunchBox buddies. Almost none of them are constantly grinding anymore like they used to and it's really sad to see.
UA-cam just isn't the same without him, cancel culture is a bitch at times
@@cormacmccolgan3500 i agree, when daniel avidan got canceled, even tho his accusations got debunked, i still couldn't see him the same way. cancel culture is a bitch
I wonder, if he comes back, if his friends will forgive him and continue making content with him.
Most unlikely that if won't happen, I mean it could but still, they really gave up on him because of his reputation and to keep theirs clean
@@cormacmccolgan3500 it seems weird that theyd want to keep their rep clean considering almost none of them actually make content anymore to "keep clean". it does seem unlikely that they would be friends again. what i'd like to see is carson with brand new people we have seen before so carson could start off fresh and so could we as an audience
15:11 never expected to hear sunny sound like that, completely caught me off gaurd
Bruh, its a 2 year difference, I would be pissed if it he was 20 and she was 15 but this is really blown out of proportion
Hello???? Still doesn't mean she's underaged, more people have came out with proof and the age range became 13-16 year olds that he has done this to. 😬 none of them consented yet he took advantage of him being a popular youtuber.
@@wren_eleven well send me a link with some proof and I will be open to that, I didnt know of that but if you can provide evidence then yeah,I guess he really did dig himself into a hole
@@Yakuza524 Yes it is, what the duck.
@@chilfghfh1949 no it isnt its normal, only 5 years.
@@Yakuza524 thats REALLY fucking bad
I'm willing to take shit from people about this, but if Carson is seeing a therapist and it's working for him, I'd want to see him come back. He's a human being who made a mistake, and honestly, two high school age people trading nudes, while weird and off-putting, isn't unheard of and people without that level of Fame would likely never catch the level of heat he did for it. If people want to argue a power dynamic issue, I get that it can become predatory in that sense, but Carson wasn't the most socially well versed, and rather than it being him abusing his power was likely just trying to have an intimate connection with SOMEONE. Being putting on a pedestal that high likely makes it difficult to find someone with a genuine interest in you that isn't trying to use you for views or social status. His relationship with is friends is likely damaged beyond repair for lying to them about the situation, and I can understand wanting to hold him accountable for it, but he's a human being who made a mistake, and if he's taking steps to better himself, we can at least try to see where he'll go from here.
idk if it's true. But if it's... I don't think he would be coming back after what happened to EDP. So if it's true, then he is probably going to have to see the end of his life (possibly.
I'm sorry was the controversy over him sending consenual nudes to someone who sent them back? When they were of similar ages? Where's the issue with that?? Literally my entire high school did that with the exception of one or two people
@Who Whoo That's absolutely ludicrous.
I think you misunderstood the situation. The problem with Carson was that he was very popular UA-camr that took advantage of that popularity to have a relationship with a fan. It’s similar to a teacher sharing nudes with a student, even if they are the same age. Also similar to your boss having a sexual relationship with you even tho he has a significantly bigger power. The power imbalance was the problem, not the age.
@@newtsinsuits237 agreed, and the Narrator's video shed some more light about how he could be an awful manipulative person behind the scenes. but if he can legitimately better himself as a person then I see no reason why he can't come back.
people who say "underage fans" instead of he was 19 messaging a 17 year old gets on my nerves
That is by definition an underage fan.
@@Sheoll6 and thats not a bad things.
It’s a 2 year difference, nobody cares.
@@totaldramaedited679 that’s like saying you shouldn’t get a ticket for going 5 over the speed limit. You still broke the law even if it was “so close”
@@UnaionaGaming So you should break off with your significant other just because you turn 18 and they are just a year younger than you?
Bro how did I just find you ! I’ve been Binge watching your videos like it’s Netflix