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I'm new to DCS, flying the P-51, and F-86, and been thinking about buying the F-16, and your tutorial is concise and easy to understand. * subscribed *
Tricker, once again a absolute fabulous video - especially your Viper videos are my favourites here on YT. Unfortunately the Viper is actual a little -broken- "dis-optimized", I read so many threads on the DCS-forum where peaople write about their viper-disappointment. And what happens? After a while they get closed by some mod on the forum. But before someone get's me wrong: I came to DCS because I saw the first F-15E-Trailer. Today I have 7 times more hours on the Viper than in the Mudhen. 💞F-16 Viper💞
There are a few things broken on the Viper (mavericks) but you can still use these other weapon on problem. I’m happy you got yourself into DCS, that’s ultimately my goal for this hobby that I do. Thanks for your support!
Good video dude, I wish something like this was out when I was working my way through it. I hadn't explored how far you can make the agm88 work to point to the site, I've always tried to point as straight as I can but it's nice to know it can do it for when range isn't an issue.
hi there.. thanks for the video! Can you please clarify why the TGP is tracking the sa6 sam site at 8:30. I believe it is because your steerpoint is set to 1 and that it is not tracking the HAD target. Please confirm. I believe i was mistaken in thinking that the TGP will auto track the HAD locked target when you switch to it.
The TGP is looking at the steerpoint 26 that T created by setting a markpoint at the SA3 site (point track on SA3). Took me some time to get this too 😀
When I'm slewing my tdc on the HAD page to find and lock the radar emitter, it goes too fast even though I tuned my axes in DCS settings. So I need to use my keyboard instead ro control the tdc because it is slower and more precise. How did you tuned your ministick axes? (I have a Virpil CM3 throttle and I use his ministick) Thank you.
Nice, but as always, no flags, no enemy aircraft, no stress. I'm used to fly BMS and that is full dynamic war. I like your style though. You are a good teacher!
say a friendly ground radar is in the area near an enemy and i want to take out the hostile ground radar and not frat my own guys, Is there a way to IFF a SEAD target using the HAD? or is it done visually via the TGP
Would love to see a solo dead or sead mission on something like an SA6 protected by an SA15. I usually go for JDAMs on the SA15 then swap to HARMs - would love to see your take.
I didnt get how that CBU was delivered, it wasnt CCIP and I did not see a CCRP drop either, no aiming no countdown??? or was that an high altitude CCRP using the tgtpod somehow? I thought you can only do that with guided munitions
Thank you for the showcase! I tried it out the other day, I was attempting to engage a hawk site, however the radars just would not show up on the HAD display. It was locked on to me and it managed to shoot me down. Am I missing something? Do i need to configure hawk radars as a threat somewhere?
Cool video! You can use it to learn much more *realistic* and challenging Air Defenses in one of BMS' many dynamic campaigns! 😉👍 But in BMS you can also use GBU-39's from much further distances and not have to worry about these "point-blank" style tactics.
@@cesarferrolho1647 yea you need to be connect by data link and AIM for the same target on had 2 are donors and they can send you data from had...that you will use 3 of them to have pgm 1 from farrr farrr away its just mąke 3 f16 info one sensor
I'm more of a let's get into the aircraft and start flipping switches type of person. I'll usually just hop right in and start doing some takeoff & landings and going over the basics first before taking the next step with learning systems. Every aircraft is different, but a lot of the aircraft have the same systems and phraseology which helps me apply that to other modules.
@@MCP2002 I’m not going to lie, it’s tough, especially if you fly every module. It’s going to be rough coming up with the release of several modules around the same time as well
Then people forget that just because the radar is down. They can still fire at you using the seeker heads radar of the missile. But you are usually lower or have gone past the site. Their range is seriously reduced but still a threat.
Some launch vehicles can fire independently like the Buk or Tor as they carry their own engagement radar (the real life MH17 shootdown was caused by a Buk crew firing with their engagement radar with no search radar to tell them it was a civilian airliner). But command guidance missiles do not carry a radar and missiles with an active seeker which point up in their deployed TEL cannot acquire a plane. What's possibly happening is that you are taking out the search radar but the engagement radar is still online, or you are facing a battery with TELAR vehicles which have a smaller and shorter range engagement radar.
There’s an approval process to have it uploaded to their website. It’s in the process now but in the pinned comment is a direct download from Google drive until it’s uploaded and then I’ll replace the link with that one.
I’m really quite annoyed at the game at this point in time, because there always seems to be something wrong with it, no matter how many tutorials, manuals and people I ask, they can’t figure out why (sometimes it’s gbus not tracking in the f16, sometimes it’s vikihrs not launching or spinning off when released, sometimes it’s vehicles not spawning at all, sometimes it’s steer points being way off in the tgp and hmcs and it’s something else every time) and I just can’t fix it. I’m just not sure whether my game is bugged, all my modules are bugged, my hotas is the problem or I manage to fuck it up every time and no one can figure out how .-.
Sometimes taking a break and coming back to it is best. Sounds like you have multiple issues going on. You can join the discord and ask questions or try and explain here. Sorry you're having trouble but a lot of the stuff does work, and sometimes it doesn't.
I agree with you, this is a very basic guide to get started and if there were manpads and other systems in the area it would have been bad news. I wish the default sam systems in Dcs were better
King of SEAD....where the enemy is using static permanently emitting radar guided sams if sead includes ir sams then it's definitely not king....and for radar guided sams which don't emit until firing or are mobile then it also isn't great.....but in DCS most radar guided sams are set up to permanently emit and mobile sams are usually static.
It’s hard to simulate an exact scenario where I can showcase the superior systems of the HTS pod when the vanilla game of DCS world won’t allow you to have mobile SAMs or have the radars act like they would in real life without running scripts. If the SAMs would continue to pop on and offline, the HTS pod does an outstanding job at finding those radars to quickly fire a HARM towards the radar. IR SAMs will always be a threat in any environment to any aircraft, but in this video I was just trying to showcase how you can use the HTS pod and HAD to quickly find and engage enemy SAM sites.
Even if SAM sites are not static they take time to move. We have just seen in the last few days a S-300 system being hit by HIMARS and a S-300/S-400 battery hit by ATACMS. The ATACMS was extremely effective because while in theory you use cables to link the vehicles and spead out the battery, the SAM crews eventually got complacent and bunched up the vehicles together. So the ATACMS cluster munition rain nailed the entire battery. The mobile SAM is nice in theory. But nobody can run forever. Eventually there's a slip up.
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD Were talking DCS not IRL....but some SAMs can fire on the move. SA8,15,19 can track on the move and only need to stop to actually fire....and when moving HARM usually miss. SA-13 and SA9 can fire whilst actually moving. SA-11s can go from moving to searching in 60 seconds and firing in 90 seconds.
@@TrickerDCS The Harrier can find an destroy IR SAMs and AAA very easily...especially for a SEAD mission where there is a specific target area which needs to be cleared. A harrier can cover 100sqm in about 10-15 minutes finding and destroying SA9s or even manpads and it can find an identify manpads from infantry at over 40 miles in a small area (like an airbase). HARM are clearly superior to Sidearm, however sidearm can outrange SA2,3,6 and 11 ...but it cannot outrage an SA10 (it can but not in any practical sense). Sidearm also places symbology on the HUD allowing you to slave the TPOD to find sams such as SA8, 13 and SA19s which can then be fired on with either the sidearm......but the real power is when you use APWKS instead so you can take out literally a dozen SA8s and still engage SA2s 11s etc. The Harrier also has LJDAMs so can overfly many SAM sites and hit mobile SAMs one at a time.....but can drop 10 LJDAMs in a single pickle taking out 10 targets wiping out air defences in a single press. SEAD is much more than flinging HARMs (which the Viper is definitely the king of). The Harrier isn't as good at the Viper for long range SAMs...but is good enough....but is far better for short and medium range SAMs. A Viper and a Harrier together....now that IS a powerful combo.
@@Pukin-Dog I get it, you like the harrier, I do too… I have many videos on it and fly it often online. But, in my opinion the f16 can be just as destructive and even more so. We are talking about SEAD here and not DEAD. There’s so many scenarios that we can play out but the point of the video was the f16 makes it easy and it does the job extremely well in the SEAD role. If the two are paired together then of course it will be amazing, but the F16 would provide the SEAD while the Harrier provided the DEAD.
im telling you guys, you are sleeping on the su25t’s capability for sead/dead. very long range missiles with HEAFTY warheads, very good against ships as well
Eh... I think the F/A-18 is better. Not just because it doesn't need an entire targeting pod to use em. Just much easier and more effective. ...Sorry.. TWO pods. Need the AN/ALQ pod as well.
i still dont understand how sead works, like how can you be sure no sam is there waiting for you to come to NEZ .. like a SAM that is turned radar off and with infrared sensors just waiting for those flying F16 going with harm to finish off what they think is a dead SA6 radar (but could have easily be a repeater-decoy that transmits as if its sa6.. and you go 5 miles close to REAL sa6 and they blast the f out of you. cuz i think this would be reality and also reality in dcs if we would have option to operate sams.. sadly today in dcs sams are as braindead as GCI plane going full afterburner across the map and running out of fuel 20 miles before engaging in combat and RTB..lol
That's the beauty of SEAD. There's a reason the mission used to be called "Iron Hand" and the patches for Wild Weasel had "YGBSM" written on them ("you gotta be shitting me" - reactiom when you're told to go after SAMs). The reverse is also true. Imagine you're seeing contacts and you're not sure which are decoys or just electronic warfare creating false images, you decide to turn off your radar to fool the HARM but then you don't know if a glide bomb was released. Or you never got in on the action, because a low flying Storm Shadow hit your command vehicle to create an opening for a strike package. Never saw it coming.
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD storm shadow not going to hit command anything, we see in ukraine how horrible the real stalemate is, air superiority is dead, only f22 with stealth can MAYBE change the equation, but for most part Russia superiority in Air defense has been proven correct, it totally negates air power, USA would struggle alot, defeating SAMs is just impossible, they can be anywhere, inside a house, wharehouse, etc.. barn yard, u going to storm shaddow anything that can fit a SA11?
Jeff is amazing at Sead/Dead, four Anti-Radiation missiles and two sensor fused glide bombs is a lot of firepower (I usually take one GB-6 and a fuel tank on the other wing).
@@kilianortmann9979 I haven’t used the Jeff in years, I’ll need to come back and take another look but the lack of the HMD also doesn’t provide the same amount of SA
@@TrickerDCS True, but the combined HSI/RWR/HTS page gives quite good SA as well. Because the GB-6 (I usually just carry one and a fuel tank on the other wing) can glide quite a bit, I feel the lack of an HMD is not as much of an issue as it could be.
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dang man, that hitting M-SEL on MKPT DED page to make it current STPT was news to me... awesome
I've been using the WPN page this entire time 🤦♂the amount of situational awareness and reaction time this gives oml
“Onwards and upwards” - -Nick Grey- Anti-Radiation missile
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There's nothing better than taking the fight to the SAMs in the viper! Good video 🫡
You got that right!
Always love to see that HARM + CBU combo! Great video.
Thanks man, love your blogs
@@TrickerDCS And you've got a fantastic channel here! Keep up the great work.
I'm new to DCS, flying the P-51, and F-86, and been thinking about buying the F-16, and your tutorial is concise and easy to understand. * subscribed *
Finally found someone using my livery!
It’s definitely nice!
Local wing for me, love to see it represented
@@SchemingDuckysame! Where does one get the livery? I can’t find it!
@@flightkimulator9612 Check my user files page. Search username: foxtrot1
@@SchemingDucky They've been in Tulsa a few times and they have one of the best tailart which is why I decided to make the livery.
I'm new to the F-16 and really appreciate your great instruction style and including the missions is such a bonus! Bravo!
Perfect timing, just saw you in venoms chat and am learning the F16. Thank you Tricker
Learning the DCS Viper now. Awesome video, very informative. I’m going to download this mission and practice. Thank you!
Great long form vid - thank you for this content!
Keep the F16 tutorials coming please!!!
production value is improving
its noticeable
As always, top notch content , thank you 👌
Tricker, once again a absolute fabulous video - especially your Viper videos are my favourites here on YT.
Unfortunately the Viper is actual a little -broken- "dis-optimized", I read so many threads on the DCS-forum where peaople write about their viper-disappointment. And what happens? After a while they get closed by some mod on the forum.
But before someone get's me wrong: I came to DCS because I saw the first F-15E-Trailer. Today I have 7 times more hours on the Viper than in the Mudhen. 💞F-16 Viper💞
There are a few things broken on the Viper (mavericks) but you can still use these other weapon on problem.
I’m happy you got yourself into DCS, that’s ultimately my goal for this hobby that I do. Thanks for your support!
Good stuff my man! Well done!
Danke 🇩🇪
What a SEAD-y video!
These videos are great man!!! love them and your shorts! thank you so much.
Glad you like them!
Good video dude, I wish something like this was out when I was working my way through it.
I hadn't explored how far you can make the agm88 work to point to the site, I've always tried to point as straight as I can but it's nice to know it can do it for when range isn't an issue.
Quality dude, i learn something each video.
very useful video. sincerely part time F16 pilot :)
Learn something new everyday. Thanks man
May have to learn this module... maybe. More tutorials pls!
Oui papa
hi there.. thanks for the video! Can you please clarify why the TGP is tracking the sa6 sam site at 8:30. I believe it is because your steerpoint is set to 1 and that it is not tracking the HAD target. Please confirm. I believe i was mistaken in thinking that the TGP will auto track the HAD locked target when you switch to it.
The TGP is looking at the steerpoint 26 that T created by setting a markpoint at the SA3 site (point track on SA3).
Took me some time to get this too 😀
Great stuff as always!
Makes it look so easy
Great video man well done
Much appreciated
When I'm slewing my tdc on the HAD page to find and lock the radar emitter, it goes too fast even though I tuned my axes in DCS settings. So I need to use my keyboard instead ro control the tdc because it is slower and more precise. How did you tuned your ministick axes? (I have a Virpil CM3 throttle and I use his ministick) Thank you.
Maaaan now I want to learn the F-16. You made that look too easy.
You taught me the ways
Nice, but as always, no flags, no enemy aircraft, no stress. I'm used to fly BMS and that is full dynamic war. I like your style though. You are a good teacher!
I do enjoy BMS as well, it’s just been a hot minute. I’ll be back in it soon enough. Thank you for the kind words.
my HARM explodes about 2sec after launch, what am I doing wrong? cheers
say a friendly ground radar is in the area near an enemy and i want to take out the hostile ground radar and not frat my own guys, Is there a way to IFF a SEAD target using the HAD? or is it done visually via the TGP
Hello tricker, I come from your stream like now
Thanks step bro.
Always welcome
Would love to see a solo dead or sead mission on something like an SA6 protected by an SA15. I usually go for JDAMs on the SA15 then swap to HARMs - would love to see your take.
I’m curious as to why the f18 isn’t number one since it can carry more munitions, and it has the self protection feature for the harms
pedagogical as alwaysss
JF-17 or A4 is my SEAD Platform...because i dont own the others :)
I didnt get how that CBU was delivered, it wasnt CCIP and I did not see a CCRP drop either, no aiming no countdown??? or was that an high altitude CCRP using the tgtpod somehow? I thought you can only do that with guided munitions
CBU105 is a GPS guided munition. Watch the right side of my HUD for the range bracket
@@TrickerDCS Damn just reading about the 105, introduced 2010, totally missed that! It looks quite effortless to use. Whats the max range of those?
How did you hit so accurately with the CBUs??
Thank you for the showcase! I tried it out the other day, I was attempting to engage a hawk site, however the radars just would not show up on the HAD display. It was locked on to me and it managed to shoot me down.
Am I missing something? Do i need to configure hawk radars as a threat somewhere?
Are you sure the left hardpoint was powered for the HTS pod? You should of seen an HK (Hawk TR).
@@TrickerDCS Yep, i could see all the other SAMS on HAD just not the hawks or rolands at that time. I can only assume it's a bug
@@TrickerDCS I tried it again today and the HK symbol appeared as its supposed to. Guess I wasnt lucky that day! Thanks again for the tutorial
Cool video! You can use it to learn much more *realistic* and challenging Air Defenses in one of BMS' many dynamic campaigns! 😉👍
But in BMS you can also use GBU-39's from much further distances and not have to worry about these "point-blank" style tactics.
Great video. How much doesbthe alq pod help do. I always have it on the A-10 and it doesn't seem to do much.
It does seem to help in certain situations, but it could be a placebo haha
Hi Sir, Can i check how to you arm the ECM from S to Active Mode at timestamp 0400. Thank you
CMS AFT to arm it if you’re in SEMI or Auto mode on the CMS panel.
@@TrickerDCS Noted Tricker. Thank you very much
i killed the target but the sam site still shot at me.. how can that be?
Technically we only have DEAD in DCS… I wish we could actually suppress anti-air, but that’s left up to scripting right now.
Agreed!
Death is a form of suppression
You’re right Peter
GUESS WHAT
You know what are the best on f16 sead is that you can connect 3 f16 with had...to have pgm 1 from far far range
Yah I’ll have to showcase this
@@TrickerDCS yea not many people know that and its op
You mean by just having datalink on? Or do you do something more?
@@cesarferrolho1647 yea you need to be connect by data link and AIM for the same target on had 2 are donors and they can send you data from had...that you will use 3 of them to have pgm 1 from farrr farrr away its just mąke 3 f16 info one sensor
@@MsHarakiri Will there be benefits if it's only 2 F-16, instead of 3?
Awesome video. I think you graphics are better then what i get. Gould you share you settings?
In the description I have a link to my settings! Thanks for the comment
@@TrickerDCS Ahh i see - but those settings are the "old" settings. Are use using "upscaling"?
@@andersbonde5185 my apologies I thought I updated it.
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@@TrickerDCS thaaaaaanks!!!!!
Being a Buckeye, I have to know where you found the Toledo livery
Any chance you could do a jf-17 Tutorial 🤣🤣
💀
Hey Tricker, what's your process for learning a new module?
I'm more of a let's get into the aircraft and start flipping switches type of person. I'll usually just hop right in and start doing some takeoff & landings and going over the basics first before taking the next step with learning systems. Every aircraft is different, but a lot of the aircraft have the same systems and phraseology which helps me apply that to other modules.
@@TrickerDCS Thanks! I'm the same way but have been struggling with my attention span as of late. I think I need to find a flow and stick to it.
@@MCP2002 I’m not going to lie, it’s tough, especially if you fly every module. It’s going to be rough coming up with the release of several modules around the same time as well
Thanks Dad.
huh.. didn't know you could slew the TGP after you lock a target with HAD
Yup!
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Then people forget that just because the radar is down. They can still fire at you using the seeker heads radar of the missile. But you are usually lower or have gone past the site. Their range is seriously reduced but still a threat.
Some launch vehicles can fire independently like the Buk or Tor as they carry their own engagement radar (the real life MH17 shootdown was caused by a Buk crew firing with their engagement radar with no search radar to tell them it was a civilian airliner). But command guidance missiles do not carry a radar and missiles with an active seeker which point up in their deployed TEL cannot acquire a plane.
What's possibly happening is that you are taking out the search radar but the engagement radar is still online, or you are facing a battery with TELAR vehicles which have a smaller and shorter range engagement radar.
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Look man, I hate SAMs. I get all worked up just thinkin' about 'em. :)
Where’s my recipe
Cole, Tiger Cole.
I’m really quite annoyed at the game at this point in time, because there always seems to be something wrong with it, no matter how many tutorials, manuals and people I ask, they can’t figure out why (sometimes it’s gbus not tracking in the f16, sometimes it’s vikihrs not launching or spinning off when released, sometimes it’s vehicles not spawning at all, sometimes it’s steer points being way off in the tgp and hmcs and it’s something else every time) and I just can’t fix it. I’m just not sure whether my game is bugged, all my modules are bugged, my hotas is the problem or I manage to fuck it up every time and no one can figure out how .-.
Sometimes taking a break and coming back to it is best. Sounds like you have multiple issues going on. You can join the discord and ask questions or try and explain here. Sorry you're having trouble but a lot of the stuff does work, and sometimes it doesn't.
Try this with the IADS mod
I agree with you, this is a very basic guide to get started and if there were manpads and other systems in the area it would have been bad news. I wish the default sam systems in Dcs were better
King of SEAD....where the enemy is using static permanently emitting radar guided sams if sead includes ir sams then it's definitely not king....and for radar guided sams which don't emit until firing or are mobile then it also isn't great.....but in DCS most radar guided sams are set up to permanently emit and mobile sams are usually static.
It’s hard to simulate an exact scenario where I can showcase the superior systems of the HTS pod when the vanilla game of DCS world won’t allow you to have mobile SAMs or have the radars act like they would in real life without running scripts. If the SAMs would continue to pop on and offline, the HTS pod does an outstanding job at finding those radars to quickly fire a HARM towards the radar.
IR SAMs will always be a threat in any environment to any aircraft, but in this video I was just trying to showcase how you can use the HTS pod and HAD to quickly find and engage enemy SAM sites.
Even if SAM sites are not static they take time to move.
We have just seen in the last few days a S-300 system being hit by HIMARS and a S-300/S-400 battery hit by ATACMS. The ATACMS was extremely effective because while in theory you use cables to link the vehicles and spead out the battery, the SAM crews eventually got complacent and bunched up the vehicles together. So the ATACMS cluster munition rain nailed the entire battery.
The mobile SAM is nice in theory. But nobody can run forever. Eventually there's a slip up.
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD Were talking DCS not IRL....but some SAMs can fire on the move. SA8,15,19 can track on the move and only need to stop to actually fire....and when moving HARM usually miss. SA-13 and SA9 can fire whilst actually moving. SA-11s can go from moving to searching in 60 seconds and firing in 90 seconds.
@@TrickerDCS The Harrier can find an destroy IR SAMs and AAA very easily...especially for a SEAD mission where there is a specific target area which needs to be cleared. A harrier can cover 100sqm in about 10-15 minutes finding and destroying SA9s or even manpads and it can find an identify manpads from infantry at over 40 miles in a small area (like an airbase). HARM are clearly superior to Sidearm, however sidearm can outrange SA2,3,6 and 11 ...but it cannot outrage an SA10 (it can but not in any practical sense). Sidearm also places symbology on the HUD allowing you to slave the TPOD to find sams such as SA8, 13 and SA19s which can then be fired on with either the sidearm......but the real power is when you use APWKS instead so you can take out literally a dozen SA8s and still engage SA2s 11s etc. The Harrier also has LJDAMs so can overfly many SAM sites and hit mobile SAMs one at a time.....but can drop 10 LJDAMs in a single pickle taking out 10 targets wiping out air defences in a single press. SEAD is much more than flinging HARMs (which the Viper is definitely the king of). The Harrier isn't as good at the Viper for long range SAMs...but is good enough....but is far better for short and medium range SAMs. A Viper and a Harrier together....now that IS a powerful combo.
@@Pukin-Dog I get it, you like the harrier, I do too… I have many videos on it and fly it often online. But, in my opinion the f16 can be just as destructive and even more so. We are talking about SEAD here and not DEAD. There’s so many scenarios that we can play out but the point of the video was the f16 makes it easy and it does the job extremely well in the SEAD role.
If the two are paired together then of course it will be amazing, but the F16 would provide the SEAD while the Harrier provided the DEAD.
only mission I ever fly in the falcon is SEAD
Good mission to fly
Huuuuuuuuuuuuuge video, the best ever, only Tricker could do it, I told you - Trump probably
No one knows tricker better than I do
im telling you guys, you are sleeping on the su25t’s capability for sead/dead. very long range missiles with HEAFTY warheads, very good against ships as well
Eh... I think the F/A-18 is better. Not just because it doesn't need an entire targeting pod to use em. Just much easier and more effective.
...Sorry.. TWO pods. Need the AN/ALQ pod as well.
I love the F18 but this is way easier and also gives you more situational awareness
i still dont understand how sead works, like how can you be sure no sam is there waiting for you to come to NEZ .. like a SAM that is turned radar off and with infrared sensors just waiting for those flying F16 going with harm to finish off what they think is a dead SA6 radar (but could have easily be a repeater-decoy that transmits as if its sa6.. and you go 5 miles close to REAL sa6 and they blast the f out of you. cuz i think this would be reality and also reality in dcs if we would have option to operate sams.. sadly today in dcs sams are as braindead as GCI plane going full afterburner across the map and running out of fuel 20 miles before engaging in combat and RTB..lol
That's the beauty of SEAD. There's a reason the mission used to be called "Iron Hand" and the patches for Wild Weasel had "YGBSM" written on them ("you gotta be shitting me" - reactiom when you're told to go after SAMs).
The reverse is also true. Imagine you're seeing contacts and you're not sure which are decoys or just electronic warfare creating false images, you decide to turn off your radar to fool the HARM but then you don't know if a glide bomb was released. Or you never got in on the action, because a low flying Storm Shadow hit your command vehicle to create an opening for a strike package. Never saw it coming.
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD storm shadow not going to hit command anything, we see in ukraine how horrible the real stalemate is, air superiority is dead, only f22 with stealth can MAYBE change the equation, but for most part Russia superiority in Air defense has been proven correct, it totally negates air power, USA would struggle alot, defeating SAMs is just impossible, they can be anywhere, inside a house, wharehouse, etc.. barn yard, u going to storm shaddow anything that can fit a SA11?
Hello
Hello!
People sleeping on the JF-17 for sead
Jeff is amazing at Sead/Dead, four Anti-Radiation missiles and two sensor fused glide bombs is a lot of firepower (I usually take one GB-6 and a fuel tank on the other wing).
Agreed.
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Shooting the same munition as other aircraft! It's good, but not a "king"
What other aircraft can carry this exact combo of the harm and cbu105 while using the HTS pod
@@TrickerDCS The Jeff can carry 4 HARM (or 2 HARM and 2 AMRAAM) and up to two sensor fused glide bombs with a combined ECM/HTS pod.
@@kilianortmann9979 I haven’t used the Jeff in years, I’ll need to come back and take another look but the lack of the HMD also doesn’t provide the same amount of SA
@@TrickerDCS True, but the combined HSI/RWR/HTS page gives quite good SA as well. Because the GB-6 (I usually just carry one and a fuel tank on the other wing) can glide quite a bit, I feel the lack of an HMD is not as much of an issue as it could be.
@@kilianortmann9979 combined with the asmr of the rwr, I guess I’ll have to give it another shot
A king with a broken patched RWR :/
That’s why I call it the WIPer
awesome! cringe voice though.
Nah SU-25T is much much better and it for free