Luxating Patella - How we get our dog's knee back in place (miniature pinscher mix puppy)
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- Опубліковано 21 бер 2019
- Our miniature pinscher mix puppy has a grade 2 luxating patella in her right rear leg (grade 1 in her left rear leg, but her left leg has not presented any symptoms yet; UPDATE: it was a grade 4 when I'm uploading this, she actually just had surgery yesterday). This video demonstrates the easiest method we've found so far to put her floating knee cap back in place. We are NOT trained medical professionals & we do not recommend performing our methods unless you have first checked/consulted with your own veterinarian. If you believe your dog has a luxating patella, please schedule a visit with your vet ASAP. Your vet can then teach you methods to adjust your dog's knee.
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My dog had never experienced her knee just giving way before! Easter Sunday she just collapsed while walking. I panicked but immediately found your video, not even really knowing what just happened to her. Even tho I couldn't detect the two ridges you referred to I proceeded to do this application and voila! In a minute she got up and walked normally! I am SO THANKFUL to have found your video! Next time I'll be calm and prepared.
I'm sorry for the delayed response, I somehow missed your comment. I am SO HAPPY this worked for you! I know it was SO hard & scary for us in the beginning, trying to figure out how to help her. I'm so glad this video helped you! Hope you're all doing well!
We have a min pin and started noticing her holding up one of her back legs recently. I was already doing something similar by softly pulling her leg straight. I noticed she was not in pain when I did this and would immediately put her leg back down. Your video helped me to lookout for the ridges. Thank you.
Cute dog btw.
Thank you for this demonstration,, hard to find anyone to 'show' how to not only set but diagnose if seeing is needed.
You're so very welcome! So glad it helped you! Thank you for the comment.
Omg thank you ! My yorkie just jumped off the bed and started limping , did what you did and boom ! Cracked back in
I'm so sorry for the late reply, but ty for the comment! I'm so happy this worked for you!
Thank you for making it so simple! Just finished watching a Vet's video prior to yours and I found his complex. Truly grateful!
I'm so glad to hear our video was helpful. 💜 sending wags your way!
We have a little rescue here that has this happen regularly. I am soo thankful to give this sweet girl the relief she deserves! She’s so precious! We’re both sending out gratitude 🙏 and asking blessings sent your way! 💗
So very glad to hear this helped you & your girl. Sending wags your way! Thanks for the comment!
This has been a lifesaver! Thank you for posting!
Thank you so much for this! I hope your pup is doing well! 🐕💕
Oh thanks for this! After 10.5 years of it going back into place on it's own, tonight it decided to stay popped out. Gave her Rimadyl and immediately began searching for answers and your video popped up. It was easy to understand and worked like a charm the first time. Thank you again!
You're so very welcome! I hope you're all doing well!
Thanks for the post! This is reassuring.
Thank you SO MUCH for taking the time to record and post this.
Yes, thanks so much! ❤️
Thank you SO much!!!! ❤❤❤ my Pomeranian jumped off the couch and started hanging his right leg. I felt the ridges and everything. Like magic he was back to normal and could almost see the relief on his face!
My 8 month pup was diagnosed with this today and I’m so glad I found this video. Thank you for sharing!
I'm so very happy the video was helpful, ty for the comment. My Vee was around that same age when she was diagnosed. She had surgery on her right knee just before she turned 1 year old. She'll be 3 next month & she hasn't had any issues with that knee since surgery. Her other knee does slip out of place from time to time, but our deciding factor for surgery is the same as it was with her right knee - when the knee is out more than in, then we'll pursue surgery.
Best of luck to you & your pup. If you have any questions or want to talk, feel free to comment or message me on instagram at littlethings0x0
Thank you so much!!!
Thank you SO much for posting this video!!!! I was freaking our a little.
Thank you for sharing this useful video. Have a marvelous day!
You're welcome! Hope you have a great day as well!
You are a living Saint! Thank you so much!
Awww, you're so very welcome! Ty for the comment, it warms my heart that it helped you. I just remember how scared I was when my girl's knee started having issues, I'm so glad our video was helpful.
Wishing you & yours the best, sending wags & wiggles!
I'll talk to my neighbor and let her know what I just saw and I am sure she will try this to help with her dogs comfort . Great tidbit , plus it will save a lot of scary time for her momma .
THANK YOU so much for this video! My 10 yo rat terrier woke up this morning limping. My vet can’t see her until Monday but thinks it’s a luxating patella from my description. Immediately went to the web and found your video. I tried your method and although I didn’t feel a pop within a minute or two she was back up and walking normally! So grateful!
I am SO happy to hear that it helped you! Ty for the comment, it warms my heart. Sending hugs & wags to you & your pup! (If your vet suggests luxating patella surgery, we have a few videos on that topic as Vee did have that surgery done. We also have a few videos on dog ACL surgery too.) Thanks again for the comment, made my day!
Ah bless! Mine is a Pinscher mix too and she's had it on and off for yeara. This helps a lot.
Sorry for the very late reply, but so glad this worked for you too!
Thanks for sharing. Our Vet showed me how and I forgot! Now I needed the info! Appreciate
So glad it was helpful! That makes my heart happy, TFS!
Omg thank you SO much for this ! We were hiking and my dog started limping ( we still had a long way to go ) - this tip really worked for her and she was so much happier afterwards !!! 🥰
Aww, that's great to hear! Thx so much for the comment! Super glad it helped.
Thanks for making our day! Best of luck to you and your puppo.
Thank you - this video helped me help my dog today ❤️🙏
That makes my heart so happy, I'm so glad it did. 🥰🤗
thank you so much for this video. My dog hasn't been able to walk for a week I didnt know you could manually do this
You are SO very welcome! Ty for the comment, I am so happy my video helped you (I can relate, I was super nervous & scared when this all started with my Vee). Another tip, sometimes you can get it to pop back in on its own by having your dog sit then lay down (let your dog do the moving, just support & encourage, don't force movement - they know their limits 😊). The natural movements encourage it to pop back in. Best of luck & thanks again!
Thank you!
You're so welcome!
thank you!
You're very welcome! Thanks for the comment!
This just happened to my Chihuahua for 1st time. I believe maybe playing with our puppy. So glad I found this video thank you!
So glad to hear it helped! Thanks for the comment.
Sending wags your way!
Thank you so freaking much your technique is amazing was soooo worried …instant kisses from my pup thank you again!
TYSM for the comment! I'm s-o glad it helped you & your pup. 🥰🥰 Sending wags & kisses from my pups to you & yours!
She’s a cutie. Thanks for sharing
You're welcome! & TY!
Thank you so much
YW💜💜
Thank you!!! My cat has been diagnosed with this and the vet said it should eventually move back into place on its own, but I feel bad seeing him in such discomfort. Gonna gently try this, but not force anything so I don't make it worse. Thank you 🙏
You're welcome! I hope it helps your cat, I totally understand where you're coming from - I was there too!
Here's one other method I found that works - if you could get the animal to sit down on their own, sometimes they will shift it back into place by themselves.
Best of luck & thanks for the comment!
We have not apoquel and other meds and his vet is Dr King and she said she would snap it into place if she could but she can't and all I have been doing is just rubbing it and watching your video about it he walks better but when he runs he hop runs its not a normal run that dogs can do he staggles his legs and runs
@queen kiara Kifalme my little guys favorite thing to do is to go for a walk. Sometimes, he he gets so happy with a pep in his step and pulls so hard against the harness, that I have to cut his walk short because it definitely irritates his luxation on the left side. He does this little skip-hop move when walking quickly.
The vet says if he shows increased pain that he'll have to have surgery. Right now, he gets 100 MG of Gabapentin for pain 2 to 3 times a day when he has a flare-up.
Most of the time, 2 tabs a day is enough to help, but lately, he's been having to take 3. I'm afraid he's on his way to the $1,400.00 surgery, and it scares me to death.
Please send up prayers for Radar, and I will do the same for your little one.
Best of luck from our house to yours. ❤️
OMG THANK YOU SSOOO MUCH! It killed me seeing my dog limp around like that
Oh, I am SO GLAD that it helped you! Thanks for sharing that with me, that makes my day! 🤗 I hope your dog feel better!
Thank you. I was able to get my dogs knee back in place.
So glad to hear this video helped you & your pup. Thanks for the comment. Sending wags & wiggles your way! 🤗🤗
Thank you! I have a mini toy poodle, and it happens at times. I was told surgery is not needed when they are small, only when they are bigger and heavier. However, if it affects his lifestyle, I was told to see a surgeon. I was also told he may develop arthritis if he doesn't get surgery. I was also told by others not to do surgery. Excellent video!
Thank you so much for this video! My Yorkie has had a luxating patella for several years and it's never been an issue until about 4 days ago when I noticed a small limp and then yesterday she started to hobble which freaked me out. Of course, our vet was off yesterday & today so I've been stressed not knowing what to do. Thankfully I found your video today and was able to help pop her knee back in! She's still limping a little bc it's been out of the socket a few days and is no doubt sore, but at least she's putting pressure on it.
This makes my heart so very happy, TYSM for the comment. Apologies for the late reply. I hope you & your pup are doing well!
Thank you!!
You're very welcome!
Very helpful. Thank you
Very happy to hear that. Thanks for the comment! We send wags your way! 💜🐾🐕
Thank you. My Pom was diagnosed as a Puppy, but never had any problems until 1 month ago. She is now 13 years old, and I do not want to put her through surgery at her age, even though she is otherwise healthy. I put her on Cosemine a week ago, just ordered a brace for her front left leg, which is where she is in pain, and just ordered some pain medication being sold by a Vet. I never knew I could pop it back in so I am so grateful to you. God Bless you.
Thank u so much for the kind words. Makes my day to hear this worked for you. Sending wags!
It can take time for inflammation to go down before the knee cap will stay in place. Three days after injury I saw this video, popped the knee in place and it came back out. I tried it again the next day and it has stayed. I read comments under a vet's video that sometimes vets have to wait for inflammation to subside before the knee can be massaged back in place. Just be patient and assist your dog until it is fine. I also read you can ice the knee a few times a day and give aspirin to bring down inflammation (though I do not give my Pom anything unless her vet says). Also, our dog is still limping though the knee is in place and I read it can take 8-10 weeks to heal depending on injury. She is using the leg now though for sit position, sleep and to scratch her ear, When she eats and goes potty she bears weight on it. But we carry her up and down the stairs in and out still until she heals. She was diagnosed with luxating patella as a puppy and we have had only 1 incident before this one with the knee.
TYFS your experience. My girl would need to sit still for a few seconds for it to settle back in & stay put. If she doesn't let it settle, it'll sometimes slip right back out. You're lucky your pup didn't require surgery. I agree, it's definitely a unique situation & varies from dog to dog.
PS my girl in the video did go on to have surgery on her knee (I have other vids up on recovery). She's had no issues since w/that knee. Her other knee does slip out of place fairly often, but we won't do surgery until it either bothers her or it's out more than in.
Sending wags & wiggles to your & your pup. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge & experience.
I want to say thank you so much you saved my doggy a horrible night specially over the weekend I tried it and it worked thank you thank you 🙏🏻
That makes my heart SO HAPPY! I'm so glad I could help. I hope you're all doing well!
Littlethings Same for us! Our sweet senior pup has been diagnosed with a Grade 1 but we've never seen it come out until last night. Thanks to your video, we were able to get it back in and keep her comfortable until she gets to the vet. 🙏🙏🙏
@@jessicaspanos6199 wow, thank you so much for the comment! ♥️♥️ I'm S-O very glad it helped you!
We send big, wiggly wags your way! Hope your pup is feeling better!
I cant thank you enough for this video. My 2 yr old toy poodle has stage 2 in back leg and its so scary when it goes out and he cant get up and looks like hes had a stroke. My vet has been most unhelpful when this happens even though he is 1 minute from my house. You have been a life saver. Toby (my puppy) thanks you from the bottom of his puppy heart.
Awwh, I have tears in my eyes! Tysvm for your very sweet comment. My heart is s-o happy that this helped you & Toby. TYSMFS. I'm so sorry your vet isn't more helpful. 😥
Update: My girl went on to have surgery on this knee (after it was out more often than in) & it's been perfectly normal since. Her other knee now slips out of place from time to time, but we've taught her a command to put it back in place on her own (we say "fix it" & she sits a certain way to put it back in place). We won't opt for surgery until it's either out more than in OR effecting her quality of life negatively. Just wanted to share our experience since I made this video.
Best of luck to you & Toby! Vee sends wags & wiggles to you both!
Thank you so much for this!!!!!
You're very welcome! Thanks for the comment! 🤗🥰
Thank you so much 😭😭😭 my dog was diagnosed with this too and she hasn’t shown any pain for 6 months (until today). Her high pitch whimper broke my heart and I was on the verge of crying because I didn’t know how to relieve her pain. So thank you so sooo much for showing us how to do it while still being calm so we know it’s not something to panic about 💖
I'm so sorry for the delayed response. Thank you so much for the comment, it warms my heart! So glad we could help. I hope you & your pup are doing well!
My baby experiences that sometimes (hanging leg) I was completely clueless on how to help until now. TYSM. ❤️
I'm so happy the video helped! It warms my heart. Thanks for the comment! Sending wags & wiggles you & your baby's way!
Oh my goodness, thank you so much!
You're very welcome! Thanks for the comment, I'm glad it was helpful! 🥰🥰
I’m sooooo great full thank you!!!!!🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
You're SOOOOO welcome! 😊😊😊 I'm so glad this helped you!
Thanks for this video! My Pom was limping the same as your dog and i straightened his leg and it popped back in 😅
This makes my heart so happy. So glad it helped you & your pup. 💜💜
Great video Thank you so much for this... we have three Yorkies and one of them is 5 years old and we can usually straighten out his leg and everything is okay but we have a new puppy who's only about 6 months old and today he just popped his knee so we are going to try this out and see it works!
So sorry for the delayed reply. Thanks for the comment, I hope you & your dogs are well!
Nice to see it does not seem to cause the dog pain.
Thank you a lot!!
You're welcome a lot! 😊😉 Thx so much for the comment!
I did on my Chihuahua ❤❤ thank you so much, my brother told me it happens, I thought OMG!!!! Ty❤
Fantastic
Thankyou for this video I’m going to try this on my mini pin! It really breaks my heart to see her limping around
I'm so glad it helped you, thanks for the comment. Sorry for the late reply. I hope you & your dog are doing well.
Littlethings she is doing much better thank you! :)
What a cutie
Thank you for the tip! I was wondering if she is in any pain when it happens? My dog helps like crazy and it breaks my heart
God bless you,I just tried it on my dog,he has not been diagnosed yet,but at least the hopping has gone,which is a relief
Thanks for the comment, so happy to hear it helped u & ur pup.
We send wags your way!
Thank you so much for your reply. My angel is 11 years old and healthy in every other way (appetite, vision etc) . I straghtened her leg and pulled it very very gently, nothing changed and I am not planing on doing it again. Somehow she is getting better (very little). I hope it doesn't get worse. Thanks again for your reply.
No problem, I know how scary it can be. Not only did we experience patella luxation with our girl in the video, our last dog had 3 ACL surgeries - for some reason knee troubles seem to follow us, lol.
Do you have your pup on any joint supplements? My dogs are on Cosequin, have been for years now. It's a truly excellent product for joint health. Perhaps a joint supplement might help your dog during their senior years.
Another great option (for joint health & pain) is a prescription drug called Galliprant. Our senior dog's mood & mobility have vastly changed thanks to Galliprant.
Also, unsolicited tip here lol, for our senior dog (he'll be 15 in November, ~90 lbs) once he hit his senior years we started getting bloodwork done every 6 months along with a check-up. Keeping this schedule has helped him so much, our vet has found things before they became issues & we truly believe he's living his absolute best possible life. If you're not already doing more frequent check-ups & bloodwork for your senior pup, I'd suggest you consider it. 🙂
Sorry for the unsolicited advice, it's just I wish someone had told me these things when my previous dogs hit their senior years.
Hope you & yours feel better soon!
Thank you for this. My 14-year old chihuahua was diagnosed a decade ago, but it had always popped back in on its own. As he has gotten older it seems to cause him more pain. I too am apprehensive about surgery, especially considering his age, but he's my little love and I cannot abide by him experiencing pain. I tried this this morning and it worked immediately. Wish my vet gave such good advice. Thank you again.
I'm so happy to hear this video helped you. I can share that Vee had surgery to fix her luxating patella in her right leg & has fully recovered, that leg has not given a single issue since & she's fully active. Her left does pop out here & there, but as long as it goes back in easy we're putting off surgery. You know what's best for your pet, but I can share that I don't regret Vee's surgery one bit. Her knee got to a point where it was out more time than it was in, so we did the surgery. Hope you & yours are doing well & I apologize for the late reply.
Have you tried any supplements? I have Vee on a joint supplement & fish oil.
very nice video !!! to the point i can say. But shouldn't surgery help ? i have a 3,5 yo jack russel who skips her leg more often now.
My Yorkie just started this. I took her to the vet and sure enough. But I haven't had luck popping it back in by myself...after watching your video I have much better luck. Thank you for taking the time to show us what to do.
Thank you for the comment, I'm so glad it helped you! I've contemplated making a follow up video as we've learned a few different methods since this video.
I hope your pup feels better. For us, we knew it was time for surgery when it was out more than in. I'm sure you'll know when the time is right too. Best of luck, if I could be of any help let me know. Thanks again! Hugs!
@@Klutzyduncan she's 10 years old the vet says they won't do surgery on her because of her age.
@@christygunter1941 now, I don't know if your pet has any other underlying issues to cause the vet to say that, but I personally have seen quite a few older pets undergo surgery; including my parents 15 year old doxipoo who had surgery to have most of his teeth removed. (A lot of articles I've read said "age is not a disease")
The surgery was a pretty quick turn around for my girl, but to each dog their own right? Lol I'd get a second opinion if I were you.
Have you used any joint health supplements? I'd also ask about a neoprene brace, but that did more harm than good for our girl - but YMMV.
She's getting ready to have dental surgery...I guess they think 10 is to old to operate on the luxating patella? She made it sound like they see a lot of that in small dogs.
@@Klutzyduncan Hi. What supplements do you recommend? Also, how's your dog doing after the surgery? Was it difficult to help with the recovery? Please advise. In desperate need of help with this issue for my baby dog. Thank you.
Thanks for sharing! We have a patter-dale terrier and she looks identical to your dog (accept with a docked tail) and she also has patellar luxation. It hasn’t gotten this bad but I’ve noticed she straightens out her legs often so I think she knows how to pop her knees back in place. She had it early on between 8-10 months. She is on a wait list for an assessment for surgery.
You're welcome! Aw, your dog sounds like a cutie pie lol 😉😉 Vee's left knee has also been popping out recently here & there, but she's able to pop it back in by sitting down. To make the decision on surgery, we went with: is it out more often than in & is it causing her discomfort or pain? That's how we knew the right time.
@Littlethings we're also looking at surgery. We have a 3 yr old Malti-poo in our house, and she had surgery on both knees last year. Now it's time for the Chi to get it done, and he'll probably have to have both knees done as well.
Thanks for this video. Our beagle has it in both legs now. First it was just her right leg and what's funny is what worked best for us at the time was pushing up on the leg from the standing position and you could here it pop back in place. Surgery will cost about $3000 for sure. Hope your pup recovered 100%.
You're so very welcome, I'm sorry for the very late reply. Vee ABSOLUTELY recovered 100% & has zero issues with that leg. Her other knee is giving her issues, but the one that had surgery is absolutely fine. I definitely don't regret doing the surgery.
Thanks for sharing your method too! If my method doesn't work for people, yours is another great suggestion! To each dog his/her own loll!
big thanks!! I followed your video only difference is I pulled his leg up into the air and popped back!! then i add bandage to secure the knee hopefully. big thanks for your video!!!
Yay! That makes my heart happy to hear the video was helpful. 💜💜 Thanks so much for the comment! Sending wags & love!🐕🐾💜
Thank you for this. Our Bichon has been having this happen lately... he screams in agony ... will try to feel for the grooves and patella movement now.
Thank you for the comment, it truly makes my day to know that my Vee may have helped another pup & pup-parent. Sending wags & wiggles your way! Hope your pup is feeling better. 🤗
PS I'm thinking of doing another video to not only update on Vee's recovery from the surgery, but also other methods we've tried to get her knee back in place.
Littlethings please do. We need more info. There are a lot of crappy videos online. Your video was to the point and well done.
@@kvstrickland thank you for the response - motivation! 😉😊🤗 I'll try to get one posted soon.
for my labrador of 4 yo, what works the best is to grab her foot while she is standing and bend the leg upwards towards her belly in the normal direction of the joint, and it pops back in with a tinny noise, no pain, and all good to go!
Thanks so much for sharing! 💜 You should make a video. I'm sure people would find it helpful. 😊
She doesn’t seem to bothered by it which must be a relief for all, she’s gorgeous too btw 😉 my baby girl has Grade 1 so it goes back in by itself
Aww thank you so much! Yes, my Vee is super cooperative & not bothered, so it is a relief. She's a bit of a Mama's girl lol. I hope your girl is doing well! Vee has recovered 100% from her surgery & is doing awesome in that leg.
Littlethings you are so lucky to have found each other, my girl has not had any pops since we changed her diet, swimming, massage and TLC, great results all round, take care u guys 🤗🐶💯👍🌻
SBW SBW 🙏🏻 please can you teach me how to help my dog? esp with the diet? My 13 mo. girl was diagnosed with grade 2 in her right and grade 1 in her left. We have some good days and bad days.
@@Klutzyduncan thanks for sharing! It's nice to hear positive confirmation regarding the success of Vee's surgery.
Surgery scares me quite a bit, even though our Malti-poo had both knees successfully done. She runs like a champ now.
@@moonshine1st she's still doing well today, no issues with the surgery knee. This is our 2nd dog with knee troubles. Our first had 3 ACL surgeries. Surgery still scares me too, I totally get it.
Glad this was helpful! Makes sharing worth it! Thanks!
How long til your dog is able to apply pressure or walk properly after you’ve slid the cap back in place? My Boston terrier had surgery on left knee when she was a puppy and now after a couple years later her right knee is giving her infrequent problems once a month or so.
My Pom is 3 yrs & just dislocated his knee im waiting to see if vet was able to pop it in. Thx for your video I feel better & have more hope.
So glad the video helped, that warms my heart. Tyfs! Sending wags to you & yours!
Our miniature Jack Russell terrier is nearly 18 months old and I noticed him a few months ago doing a strange skip/hop on his back leg when he is “trotting” around (never does it when he is doing 100mph zoomies!). On our check up in Sept we mentioned it to the vet who didn’t seem bothered and said it’s not a problem but if it gets worse let them know. This advice was the exact opposite of what I have researched online which says it’s better to get it sorted sooner rather than later as it only needs the knee bone scraping a bit to make the groove bigger, so the kneecap doesn’t keep sliding out. I’m so confused as I don’t want Bruno to be in pain. He actually looks like your little dog but Bruno has dark chocolate patches on him as well. A very rare colour we were told for a JRT as he is classed as chocolate and tan with the blue gene! He is also a very small dog with a very BIG attitude!
Any other advice regarding the knee problem would be gratefully received as I’m not convinced my vet knows what she is doing as always seems very nervous and they never seem to like being questioned or have things pointed out to them (she has changed since we joined the practice and no idea where our original vet went!)
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Can't thank you enough for the demonstration. Our little yorkie has the same thing in his back right leg and thanks to your video, my wife and I are able to straighten out our little boy's leg and his kneecap snaps right back into place. We just started him on Cosequin joint supplements to hopefully help with this problem. But in the meantime, when our pup's knee goes out (happens maybe once every 3 or 4 days), we know exactly what to do because of your video. Thank you so so so much 🙏
how is your dog so far？
@@skyehuang5447 so I would say the Cosequin joint supplement we have him on has *really* made a difference. His leg does not nearly pop out as often (maybe 2 or 3 times a month compared to where it was at which was around 2 to 3 times a week - so big improvement.) if you want, check out Cosequin for you dog. We have a little yorkie so we have him on Cosequin mini’s chewable joint suppliments. He loves the taste of them and it works out great. But give them a try if you want
@@ChrisFerretti sounds good，how old is your dog? You feed consequin or consequin msm?
@@skyehuang5447 he’s 3. And we give him Cosequin Mini’s with MSM
@@ChrisFerretti ok！thanks！
Hello, does anyone know if you pop it outwards or inwards for the knees
My 6 month old puppy started doing this recently and is being seen by the vet this week. I really want to avoid surgery if possible. Thank you for this information.
You're very welcome, it warms my heart that we could help. Ty for the comment. Our Vee did have the surgery in her right knee & has had no issues since. Her left knee does slip out of place from time to time now though. However, in both instances we wouldn't consider surgery until it was out more than in & putting it back in place didn't do much (like it'd pop out shortly thereafter & stay out). That's how we KNEW it was time for surgery & that will be our deciding point for Vee's left knee also.
Best of luck to you & your pup. We send wags & wiggles your way!
@@Klutzyduncan how stressful was the surgery for the dog? And was it expensive?
@@GoLeafs03 I'd say the most stressful part for my girl was just before surgery & right after; just being away from me & in a strange place, crated, with lots of dogs she doesn't know (also, we WFH so she doesn't know life where her people leave her for 10 hours a day). Post surgery was very smooth, she didn't seem in any distress at all. This is consistent with the other 3 ACL surgeries my last dog had done, all 3 of those surgeries & recovery went smoothly. I expected surgery & recovery to be long & grueling on all 4 dog knee surgeries my dogs have had, but it was quite the opposite. Both my dogs knew their limits after surgery & recovery was a breeze for us. (Side note: Kongs stuffed with wet dog food then frozen were spectacular during recovery!)
As for cost, it definitely varies. There are also different ways to repair it, so that matters too. I've heard costs of anywhere from $1k to over $4k; it really varies on the surgery & I think, your location. Ours cost just over $1k (for the luxation repair), but we do have an amazing relationship with our vet so I believe we got a small discount.
Sorry for the lengthy reply. Hope this helps!
Thank you for the demonstration. I am really worried about my yorkie. She has been limping for 3 weeks and vet gave me $1000 bill just for xrays & pain meds & sent me home without fixing the knee.
I would find a new vet if I were you. Did they diagnose her with luxating patella? Limping usually isn't a sign unless she's limping to avoid it slipping out. Have you looked into Cosequin? It's a great joint supplement, a product I trust & believe in.
Really hope your girl feels better. We send wags your way!
@@Klutzyduncan Thank you so, so much!!!
I think my dog might have this condition he isn’t showing any signs of pain or limping but he’s knee keeps making a clicking noise was this something you noticed in your dog before he got diagnosed?
thank you so much showing
my dog's just limping
makes my hear broken
my dog's are grad 2
I'm living in flushing New York
try to find best doctor surgeon for dogs patella luxating anybody pls recommend doctor for my dog it will save me & my dog please,thank you
What a good girl just letting you do that
Aw, tysm. That truly warms my heart. 🥰
I dedicated a LOT of time & attention trying to form a strong bond with her when I first rescued her. I like to think that enhanced her level of trust with me, so today we have a *very* strong bond. She's also smart as HELL (30+ commands & counting) with a super chill temperament, so I'm sure that also adds to why she allows/trusts me to help her. 😊😊
Today, her other knee does come out of place, but we've taught her "fix your knee" & she'll sit a certain way herself to pop it back in. I keep saying I'm gonna post a video of it... Lol
My 14 month old American Staffordshire jumped from couch and then started limping, I took her to the vets today and the veterinarian said her knee cap keeps popping out of place and needs surgery which could be around $5000 she never attempted to pop it back in place nor show me how to do it, we’re booked for X-rays on Friday but just wondering if it’s at all possible to escape surgery 😬😢
Hi there! My girl has patella luxation in both her knees and she’s getting surgery in April. The way I fix her luxating kneecaps when they pop out of place is to stand behind her and pick her up with my right hand on her chest and my left hand on her bum. Then I pick her up like she’s sitting on my hand and that usually makes her kneecap pop right back in place! She’s even got the hang of it herself as she sits down immediately when it happens now instead of limping all over the place.
Thanks so much for sharing what works for you! I could see how that would work well. 😊
My girl had surgery on the knee shown in the video (back in 2019) & hasn't had any issues since. Her other knee does slip out of place from time to time, & we've also found different methods this time around. We've taught her "fix your knee" & she sits down in a way so that it slips back in place; she puts it back in place herself. Just like with the method in the video, she always sits for just a few seconds more once it's back in place to let it settle in.
Frozen kongs (filled with wet dog food) & various chews were our best friends throughout the 4 knee surgeries we've had with our dogs over the years.
Wishing your girl a smooth surgery & speedy recovery! We send wags & kisses your way!
Are you having both knees done at once? What grade are each of her knees?
@@Klutzyduncan She’s got grade 2 in both knees, with one of them popping out of place more than the other. The reason why they decided to perform surgery in both knees is because she’s still very young. We decided it’d be best she could walk and jump and run and play with no issues for the rest of her life. She’s also getting spayed at the same time so it’s definitely gonna be a hefty recovery. Not really looking forward to that. I hate seeing my girl in pain.
This leg shows in video is grade 2 or grade 4?
At what point would you consider surgery to fix this issue permanently?
Thank for this video! My dog was diagnosed with grade 1 on her right and maybe posible on grade 3 on left. My only thing is that she hardly ever limps for her left leg and sometimes i will see her stretch it out or give a little hop and thats it. I don’t know if i should do surgery or not. What do you recommend from your experience?
You're welcome. Thanks for the comment. I'm happy it helped.
My girl had the luxation repair surgery on her right knee once it got to a point when it was out of place more than in. Since the surgery it's been great, no issues. Now, her other knee comes out of place from time to time, but we've taught her "fix it" where she straightens the leg herself while standing to put it back in place. We won't consider surgery until it's out of place more than it's in.
Hope that helps?
No luck for me. Question, did you pull on the leg or did you just straightened it without pulling. Thank you for the video, I am glad some dogs benefited and feel better now.
Oh man, sorry to hear that. To answer your ? - no, I did not pull, I just straightened (guide to straighten). You could try it while your pup is sitting too, but I found the pillow lean worked best for my girl. My girl had surgery on the knee in the video, no issues since with that knee. Her other knee does pop out of place from time to time, but we've taught her "fix it" & she'll pop it back in on her own (from a standing position).
How long has this been going on with your pup? Typically grade 4 luxations cannot be put back in place & require some sort of medical intervention.
Best of luck to you & your pup. We send wags your way!
I have a 2 year old Minature Jack russell with the same problem in his right leg. He had an x-ray yesterday and they said he has it in both legs but only the right needs surgery.we are waiting for a call from the specialist. How often would your dogs knee pop out once you have popped it back in place?
Thank you for this video!
It depended on what grade it was at at the time. When she was a grade 2, it'd stay in for awhile, days sometimes. Grade 4, it popped back out near immediately.
My girl's left knee is prob a grade 2 now (the right one she had surgery on is fine, no issues). We won't opt for surgery until it's out more time than in.
My first couple times doing it with my dog I bent his leg a little further and felt it pop but I figured that would be uncomfortable for him so I’ve started straightening his leg instead, he has stage 1 if the vet was correct, he’s still really young so the only thing I can do to prevent it from happening and getting worse is to keep him calm
I'd put him on a joint supplement like Cosequin. All of my dogs have been on it for years. It's a fantastic product.
Sending wags!
I just hold my Min pin, the leg that is out is against my body, I just give her a slight very soft hug and it pops right back in
TFS! So glad you found something that works for you!
Sending big wags & kisses your way! 🤗🥰
My vet was telling me about this but mentioned to pull leg BACK AND STRAIGHT…
Might help some people/might be easier or less painful for some
Thanks so much for sharing! 🥰
Hello there. Thank you so much for uploading this video. My dog recently was just diagnosed with a Grade 4 Luxating Patella on her back left leg and Grade 2 on the right. Her vet is recommending surgery which I'm extremely apprehensive about due to possible complications. I've also read various different results from it...
Since your pup already had the surgery, could you please tell me how it went? How she did with it and how she's doing now? Thanks so much!
if she has grade 4 i would do surgery for sure!
I'm so very sorry for the late reply. Did you go forward with the surgery?
Hi there. I decided to take my dog to an orthopedic specialist ($175 for the eval) for a 2nd opinion and was glad I did because after the specialist evaluated her, she diagnosed her left leg to be borderline grade 2 and her right leg barely grade 1 and thus, she strongly opposed doing surgery.
The specialist also pointed out that luxating patella is very common in dogs and that it is NOT advisable to have a surgery unless the dog can no longer walk. She also recommended to give my dog a joint supplement to help support her joints and to help prolonged the progression of the condition. Furthermore, she also pointed out that while luxating patella can worsen overtime, she opined that there is only about 60% that her condition will worsen overtime. She has been an orthopedic specialist in dogs for over 30yrs and said that she's seen more cases where they do not worsen - provided the animal is on a quality joint supplement and avoids activity that put stress on the joints (i. e. jumping and climbing stairs excessively)...
Since her evaluation with the specialist, I was referred (by a friend) to a nutritionist who was also glad that I didn't move forward with surgery. He recommended a Pharmaceutical-Grade Joint and Cartilage Supplement. My dog has been on it for almost a year, and thankfully, I have not seen her limp since!!!!
For anyone being told their dog needs orthopedic surgery, I highly recommend seeking a 2nd or 3rd opinion from a specialist to make sure. The cost of surgery is not cheap and thus making it enticing for many vets to recommend even though it is not necessary. The recovery following an orthopedic surgery in dogs are very extensive and sadly only a small number of them recover fully without any permanent impairment.
How's your dog doing now?
@@minnie5962 Hi. I just read your post. My dog is in the same situation as yours. I really dont want the surgery. Can I know the name of the supplements you are giving your dog, if you dont mind. Also, where is your dog's specialist. Please advise. I am currently worried for my baby dog.
My pup also has a grade 1 left rear leg, and grade 2 on the right. He does not even put a wait on it.
The vet said he has to be a year old for
Surgery. We have to wait for his growth bone closure I guess
It'll all be ok. In all the dog knee surgeries I've been through, I've learned that dogs (at least both of mine did) know their limits. It's amazing, really.
My girl had her surgery when she was 8 months old & her leg has been great since, no issues. She turned 5 this year.
Maybe get a 2nd opinion?
We are looking to adopt a dog with Grade 3. Vet says to wait and see, but surgery maybe in future. Knee has not popped yet. How much is the surgery per knee and how was the recuperate and rehab. How long rehab before the doggie was allowed to go full steam.
I'm not a vet, but to my understanding it's not possible to have a grade 3 luxation & it not have popped yet (grade 3 presents itself as out of place often, but can be manipulated back in place). I personally would re-confirm that diagnosis. I also wouldn't opt for surgery unless the knee was out more than in OR it was hurting the dog or negatively impacting their quality of life. My girl's other knee pops out from time to time & we have not opted for surgery yet (& we won't until it's a grade 4 or negatively impacting her quality of life).
Surgery cost varies widely, a lot based on your area. I've heard it ranges from $1,300 to $2,600 (I'm in the lower end of that range), much more if you're going to a specialist vet.
As far as rehab/recooperation, $0 for us. There was none of that, the only cost was for the surgery itself & any related follow ups. Our girl recovered quickly & was toe touching the leg on day 2, back to 95% within a week or 2. 100% shortly thereafter. My girl was
@@Klutzyduncan Thank you for the quick response. Like you, I was thinking surgery being the absolute less option. We had a Boxer that lived with both back knees wobbly without surgery and he coped with it fine. You reinforced my feelings (many sites recommends surgery at grade 3 or higher) on holding off as this is a major operation. luxating patella would not prevented us on adopting, just needed input from someone who went through the process.
@@rossishima glad & happy to help. Good luck on the new addition to your family! 🥰😘🤗
Hi, my dog has the same problem. He’s a 13 year old chihuahua. He has been limping on his right back leg for 3 days now. He goes back and forth with running on it, walking and being normal then he starts limping again out of nowhere. I’m thinking it can be a sprain or out of place? My bf & I stretched his leg out like how you demonstrated and he’s up and walking normal again. When he lifts his right leg to pee, his leg gets stuck in the same position that causes him to start limping. Do you suggest going to a dog chiropractor or the vet? Thanks for listening & any feedback.
I'm happy to hear this method provided some relief for him. Another method to get a dog's knee back in place is to get your dog to sit & it'll usually slip back in naturally (you should see them sit kind of slanted at first then shift into a proper sit which is when it'll slip back in). I have to give my girl a soft place to sit & she will, it'll then pop right back in (this is her other knee, not the one in the video; she had surgery on that one after this video. Her knee hasn't slipped once since surgery, thank goodness!).
I'm not a vet, but from my experience with going thru 4 knee surgeries with my dogs (ACLs & luxating patella) I'd recommend you go to a vet. If I had to guess, it sounds like it might be a pulled muscle or sprain (due to old age). If it were his knee, I'd think you'd see the disconnection more, like it just doesn't look right until it's back in place (or the dog will hike it up close to their body while it's out of place, not limp - but perhaps that's what you mean by limp, I'm not sure). These are just my best guesses, again I'm not a vet & I've never seen your dog. A vet IMO is your best option. They can tell you further options, including a doggie chiropractor if needed.
Best of luck, we send wags & wiggles your way! Thanks for the comment!
Littlethings Thanks so much for your feedback! Much appreciated! I decided to make him an appointment with the vet this weekend to find out what’s really wrong with his leg. He ran to me today when I got home from work, he’s super happy still full of energy but then starts limping after a few minutes again. I hope it’s nothing bad or seriously wrong. I love our fur babies with all my heart ❤️ But thanks again! Sending belly rubs to your doggies 🐶 🤗
@@jrica7777 no problem at all. 😊 I have a large senior dog as well, he'll be 13 in November. He's tweaked his leg a few times & the symptoms were similar to what you're explaining. He mended himself by taking it easy, they know their limits. If I were you, I'd encourage him to take it easy. Frozen Kong's (with wet dog food) always helped us keep ours calm & entertained. 😊 Best of luck to you guys, KMP!
My dog has been having the same issue but he drools a lot when it gets stuck, has that ever happen with your dog?
Not with my dog in the video, no (but she's not a drooler on any level, I think I saw her drool one or 2x in her life lol). BUT my big dog drools LIKE CRAZY when he is anxious, stressed, scared (i.e. for him it's during thunderstorms or heavy rain). Perhaps it's a stress relief for dogs anxious about something.
How often does your dog's knee pop out of place? My dog's knee popped out place running up the steps. Do you think her knee will keep popping out of place now often? Or maybe it's just this one time due to running up the steps? I'm just asking bc my vet right away said surgery if it keeps not staing in place. It's very pricey for that surgery.
We decided it was time for surgery on Vee's knee once the knee was "out more than in" (meaning it was out of place more often than it was in place; it got to a point where putting it back in place was more difficult & it would only stay in for a few seconds after).
She hasn't had any issues with her knee since surgery, but her other knee slips out of place every so often. We won't do surgery until that one gets to the point that it's out more than in also.
I can't really tell you if or how quickly that would happen for your pup, really just depends on your pup.
Hope that helps. Best of luck to you! Feel free to message me on here or on instagram @ littlethings0x0.
PS If I were you, I would 100% wait & see what happens. If it keeps happening to the point that the knee is out more than in, that's when I'd consider surgery.
@@Klutzyduncan Wow, thank you very much for your quick and very informational response! I really appreciate it! Have a great day! Stay safe! New sub and i will keep you updated on my pups road to recovery! I don't have instagram nor any social media besides UA-cam!
@@BoricuaHaze28 you're so welcome! I know how it is to go through this, it's scary. When my vet first tried to tell me how to put her knee back in place, I was so scared to do it. That's why I made these videos, so your comment warms my heart; happy I helped someone!
I've been thru 4 dog knee related surgeries with my dogs (3 ACL & 1 luxating patella), so I totally understand since I've been in your shoes. 😊
Best of luck! & Yes, please keep me posted! Don't be nervous about surgery recovery either, it's INCREDIBLE how dogs just KNOW their limits after surgery.
@@BoricuaHaze28 one other thing, Cosequin is an amazing supplement if you're looking for one. I have my senior dog on it as well as Vee (who will be 3 this year). Her other knee slips less often since she started Cosequin a few months ago. My senior pup has been on it for years & we've seen so many improvements with him on it. Highly recommend.
My dog got excited and jumped from height and then this started..everytime he jumps..he yelps and his leg is locked
my 3 month old puppy has both of his knees popped out and i cant put them in place because it hurts him i took him to 2 vets yesterday and they just charged me and gave me pain killers for him any feedback can help thank you
I'm so sorry to hear this. What else did the vets say?
This just started with our little guy. Such a bummer and his is like a grade 3-4.
I'm sorry to hear that. My girl went on to have the surgery in her right leg & has had no issues with that leg since. Her left knee does slip out from time to time, but we've taught her the command "fix it" & she'll sit a certain way so the knee slips back into place on its own. 🥰 Sending wags & wiggles your way.
Hi my name is Katie and u have a male havaneese that one of his back legs poped out of place I saw your video and decided to do the same thing with my dog he is an old man already and instead of him running normal he hops which isn't good in my opinion feel free to give me any tips please
Have you seen your vet yet? I would get in to discuss it with them. Sounds like it might be his hip rather than knee?
Do you have him on a joint supplement? I would suggest Cosequin. My dogs have been on it for years.
Sending wags your way!
@@Klutzyduncan he has allergy shots which is good for his joints
@@queenkiarakifalme5731 oh that's interesting. I haven't heard of an allergy shot that also helps joints. What is the shot/medication?
@@Klutzyduncan not sure but ask your vet about it
@@queenkiarakifalme5731 ok, I will. My dogs don't have allergies, but my last dog did - apoquel changed her life. I was just intrigued by what you said, wondering what it is, just curious.
I shall try this on my 2 year old jack russel.
She has always skipped on her right leg. then walks normally... The vet said. Ignore it.
Yesterday playing ball, she twisted and hurt her left leg.
It responds well to a gentle massage.
I shall have a feel to see if her knee is in place... She can walk ok but looks stiff, when she chases a ball its popping out and bothering her.
Shame, if I have to stop playing ball, shes very ball orientated.
Sending big wags to you & your girl.
Have you considered a joint supplement? I really love Cosequin. 💜 My girl is 5 years post knee surgery & still great! & thankfully she didn't need surgery on the other knee. I really think the supplements help.
Thanks for the comment & best of luck to you & yours. 🥰🐕
My sister just bought a French bulldog puppy and soon as I seen it I knew something wasn't right with his back legs, I was cringing seing it walk. I've told her to get the vet to examine this problem when it's going for it's second vaccination. She knows absolutely nothing about dogs so it's typical she chose this pup, she said it was the only pup that was calm all the other pups were running around crazy.. I said yeah that's Probably because of his back legs lol duh !! Luckily I'm very experienced with dogs and raising pups and my partner has a 3d printer so if he was to need special braces as he's growing until his muscles are strong we can easily accommodate that.
A special brace with a 3d printer is an awesome idea! We never did have much luck with standard, store bought braces. I'm sorry for the late reply. How's you pup today?
I wish someone came up with something to stop it from popping out.
I'm not sure what you mean. Are you referring to a brace or surgery?
@@Klutzyduncan a brace
Understood. We did try a brace before surgery, but with her small size it was very hard to find one that fit correctly & provided more pros than cons. When she'd wear the brace, if the knee popped out it became *very* difficult to manipulate the knee OR get the brace off. I would be open to trying a brace again (if she ever shows need for it with her other leg), dependent on fit & structure/materials.
My dog did have surgery to fix the knee & has done incredibly well since.
@@Klutzyduncan : just wondering...did you ever try to bandage it up? If so, did that not work well enough to keep it from popping out? Did it cause other issues, such as less motion range or less circulation?
I ask because we adopted a mini poodle about a month ago and on the second day when he went out to pee I noticed he came back with his leg like that. At first I thought it was the wet grass and he didn't like it or he got something stuck in his paw...but after thoroughly searching could find nothing. I instinctively tried to slowly extend his leg and was massaging his muscles until he could straighten it out and put weight back on it. I thought it was then just a muscle spasm and would see it occur a day here or there...but now I have noticed it many times daily. I have always been able to snap it back into place, but want to bandage it up to help support the knee but am afraid to injure him more.
I don't have a way to pay for a vet visit at the moment, since we had to be bumped down to part-time on our job and money is super tight...so trying to research what I can do, besides having him get surgery, that may help him. I appreciate any insight you can give me.
@@sandradeleon6171 hey there. We did try ace bandages & also a neoprene brace - neither worked AT ALL. Both did more harm than good because with the neoprene brace, you had to slip her leg in it (like a tube) then tighten straps, so when her knee popped out & the brace was on, it was AWKWARD trying to get the brace off (because there was NO WAY to help her get it back in place with brace on). Same deal with the ace bandage. I didn't wrap the ace bandage tight-tight because I didn't want to effect her circulation - therefore it did NOTHING but just bug her when she walked. I truly don't think one could wrap it as tight as it needs to be to keep it in place - it'd definitely cut off circulation. I wouldn't try either of those methods again.
My girls other knee does come out frequently & we've got a new method that works really well - she sits & it pops back in. When we see her knee pop out, we stop & tell her "put your knee back in, sit" & she does. I think I need to try & grab video of her doing it to explain.
Hi I need all the help I can get! I have a 19 pound mini aussidoodle who is 1.5 years old. She is getting a double luxated patella surgery her left knee is grade 3 and her right knee is grade 2!
The problem is she has soooo much energy she is very hyper and loves to jump everywhere all the time. When we come home she goes crazy jumping all over. She has “crazy hour” 4 times a day where she is unstoppable and does all kinds of crazy moves. She loves getting up on her two pack legs to get higher.
Anyone has some tips and tricks to help me get through this and assure a great recovery? anything helps
Frozen Kongs were awesome during all dog knee surgery recoveries I've been through (4 total w/2 different dogs-1 large & 1 small). We would use wet dog food, sometimes a little bit of peanut butter, little bit of Kong stuffing, etc to stuff the kongs; keeps them busy & still. The first few days, we'd use the frozen kong to feed at least 1 meal, if not both. Also stocked up on safe/healthy, long lasting chews (we love castor & pollux rawhide, our go-to rawhide for at least 8 years now).
One thing I can say with my 2 dogs I've gone through 4 knee surgeries with - is that they somehow KNOW their limitations after surgery (my larger dog was high energy, but she knew her limits after surgery). Try not to worry much about the recovery, your dog will do what he/she is comfortable with; just be there to support & guide them. First day or 2 after surgery is where they'll need the most care & attention.
I hope surgery goes well for your pup! I'm sure she'll be back to normal soon. Try not to worry. 🤗 Hugs!
PS/FYI Vee was about 8-10 lbs when she had her luxating patella surgery & she's 17 lbs today, no issues with the knee since surgery. She was a grade 4 at the time of surgery, we waited until it was out more than in & also couldn't put the knee back in herself. Today, her other knee is probably a grade 2 or 3, but she's still able to put it back in herself (we've taught her to sit & it slips back in itself). I won't opt for surgery until she becomes unable to put it back in herself or it spends most of its time out more than in. If your dog is used to the knee being out & they've almost adapted to life on 3 legs, they'll be less likely to use the knee after surgery; I think that recovery might be a little more difficult.
Littlethings Thank you! very appreciate