It's an overly choked intake and exhaust. It robs tons of power, and causes a considerable lag in throttle response. It's blowing my mind how good your review is!?🤯
Glad you explained that MBP moniker. Does seem a stunning package. Admittedly slight hesitation over the Chinese link, but far better to engage than not
What's not to like? Triple disc brakes with ABS and a goodly sized fuel tank are excellent to have! I don't mind a relatively quiet exhaust as listening to a loud set of pipes on a ride sucks after a few minutes of it. A tiny tank cruiser is a waste of my time and this bike has a tank capable of taking you further than to the petrol pumps and back home. YES! The backlit controls are a nice touch too! I personally do not care much for the mono-chrome instrumentation and have been that way since the '82 920 Virago, which honestly looked better than does this bike's setup. Here in the bowels of Commiefornia USA we do not (yet?) have a dealer (that I am aware of) but we do have CFMoto dealers and I have met a few very happy owners of that marque. These Chinese motorbikes should be thought of in the same vein as when the Japanese first came to our shores in that they are very AFFORDABLE and not junque (note cool high-brow spelling!). I do not know a thing about this brand but it appears well made and I know that the aforementioned CFMoto owners I spoke with were very pleased with their rides. Is there a risk involved in buying Chinese? Certainly. But there is a risk to buying anything even Japanese, Austrian, Italian, Indian (both India the country and Indian the marque!) and HD. If it turns out you don't like your ride you are going to lose your buttocks selling it. In the long run, any bike is going to depreciate so I buy with long term ownership in mind. Given the current financial zeitgeist/climate nothing is holding its value. Not Harley. Not Honda. Not Guzzi....Not kidding. A motorbike isn't an investment in anything but yourself. Look into the total cost of ownership, i.e., maintenance, fuel economy, initial price, tires, insurance and anything else you might encounter. Few folks look into the frequency and cost of valve checks/adjustments. Don't be surprised, find out ahead of time. Nothing sours riding a bike when you're counting down the miles to a costly valve check that happen every 3,500 or so miles. Look ahead because hindsight is only 20/20 if you don't have your head up your butt! The best part stying-wise is it isn't another Japanese HD ripoff. Kawacopys and Yamaha Starleys be damned, LOL! Excellent review, sir! Thank you so very much! SS
I believe it is/has a full colour TFT dash - the reviewers camera wasn't doing a great job of showing that fact. At times you could see the rev counter showing green as it climbed up and down. The manufacturers website states it is colour.
An issue with US buyers would be the availability of aftermarket parts. I don’t know if this brand is even available here, but they would be wise to stock up on accessories. That is the part of owning cruisers that will let them down if they’re not prepared. Few US cruiser owner leave their bikes stock for very long. Harley and Indian probably make as much or more on accessories than on actual bike sales.
28:46 only issue with this is that for the cost you can certainly get a kawasaki vulcan 1700 for much less and certainly much more bike, granted that's 2nd hand, but still a great buy 🤷🏻♂️
Didn't Yamaha make the fs1e? Very interesting deets about the company. It's a very desirable machine, it'll be interesting to see reports from long term owners about its serviceability. Nice review. 👍
I'm a cruiser rider and you couldn't give me one. Not even new, never mind when the moulds wear out and Chinese cost cutting raises it's head. They've tried to reinvent the cruiser and failed, Cruiser design peaked around 2000, this is just fussy and ugly. Also with my prosthetic left leg a foot board you find perfect will not be right for how my ankle angles. As for driver modes. I have those on all my bikes. They are built into my right wrist, foot and fingers, left fingers and brain. The only modern gizmo I want is DCT so I wouldn't need to adapt my geared bikes (which ironically absolutely requires modes with the clutch gone).
Nooo.. I thought we had lost the self indulgent 3 minute long intro! Lol. Great vid all the same.. Keep em coming.. Maybe a benelli trk 702x? I would love to see your opinion. Take care
When you first mentioned the 'back light' I thought you meant a switch to turn on the rear light cluster. Another rival would be perhaps a 2nd hand Diavel.
I don't like cruiser bikes like that. The wind drag limits my speed to 80 km/hr, unless you're built like a gorilla. The seating position kills my lower back. Imagine the cost of maintenance for a unique bike like that... Crazy.😮
MBP.... The nearest AD to Plymouth is Bodmin. Pain in the arse for compulsory Servicing (winter etc) and the AD didn't convince me that parts are readily available. Not for me.
Let's hope that thing never comes to America! Reminds me of the cheesy Yamaha V's from the 80's, dorky and unimaginitive in style. This bike not only has odd squareness to it's design but that exhaust note is terrible.
The problem for me is I dont care how initially good they are. On more than one level I dont like they are made in China. But first as an owner it is simply parts availability. Wtf are you gonna do 1000 miles from home when your bike breaks down? Second pretty much every single "business" in China is state connected. I do not wish to spend multiple thousands of dollars on a product that directly benefits a govt that is openly antagonistic to mine. The big 4 or out the door.
Well sorry but the reason of your money going to china is beyond stupid. Dealerships pay their own money to buy these bikes, then they mark up and sell them to you. By buying one you legit benefit a UK dealer, since your money is being taxed and moved around in UK. As for the big 4 or out the door.... As a yamaha/suzuki owner, the newest bikes are all made in Taiwan or China. You are just paying for overpriced parts. The design is stagnant and the technology in japanese bikes only just started catching up and look at the price they sell. A 500cc Hona Rebel costing almost 10k.... It's a joke. I'd rather buy the chinese/Italian and drive around in something that looks good and is just as reliable.
The size of the rear sprocket/pulley is ridiculous!😂 China is desperately trying to get what little horsepower this bike has, down to the road. No exhaust note because the engine is being choked. Try breathing in through your mouth, then exhale through a straw. That's what is going on with that underpowered joke of a bike.
Why are you pushing sub-standard Chinese bikes. I bought a piece of crap from China and could not get parts. It's worse than buying a crappy under powered Royal Enfield.
Loved the bike and also loved your review and commentary, much more informative than other bike video's I've seen. Excellent job mate !
Just seen one with under 1000 miles for around 7k ish,very tempting indeed.
I love the features and technology but the engine is whining and the exhaust sound does not fit the amazing look.
Exhaust is something you can easily change (if there is anything on the market)@@frankcrozier1318
It's an overly choked intake and exhaust.
It robs tons of power, and causes a considerable lag in throttle response.
It's blowing my mind how good your review is!?🤯
How easy would that be to rectify?
You have to remember the style of bike it is. It doesn't need to accelerate like a sports bike but pulls well enough for the type of bike it is.
@@motorsforthemasses
Sorry, but it's Chinese cheap crap! 😅
Glad you explained that MBP moniker. Does seem a stunning package. Admittedly slight hesitation over the Chinese link, but far better to engage than not
What's not to like? Triple disc brakes with ABS and a goodly sized fuel tank are excellent to have! I don't mind a relatively quiet exhaust as listening to a loud set of pipes on a ride sucks after a few minutes of it. A tiny tank cruiser is a waste of my time and this bike has a tank capable of taking you further than to the petrol pumps and back home. YES! The backlit controls are a nice touch too!
I personally do not care much for the mono-chrome instrumentation and have been that way since the '82 920 Virago, which honestly looked better than does this bike's setup. Here in the bowels of Commiefornia USA we do not (yet?) have a dealer (that I am aware of) but we do have CFMoto dealers and I have met a few very happy owners of that marque. These Chinese motorbikes should be thought of in the same vein as when the Japanese first came to our shores in that they are very AFFORDABLE and not junque (note cool high-brow spelling!). I do not know a thing about this brand but it appears well made and I know that the aforementioned CFMoto owners I spoke with were very pleased with their rides.
Is there a risk involved in buying Chinese? Certainly. But there is a risk to buying anything even Japanese, Austrian, Italian, Indian (both India the country and Indian the marque!) and HD. If it turns out you don't like your ride you are going to lose your buttocks selling it. In the long run, any bike is going to depreciate so I buy with long term ownership in mind. Given the current financial zeitgeist/climate nothing is holding its value. Not Harley. Not Honda. Not Guzzi....Not kidding. A motorbike isn't an investment in anything but yourself. Look into the total cost of ownership, i.e., maintenance, fuel economy, initial price, tires, insurance and anything else you might encounter.
Few folks look into the frequency and cost of valve checks/adjustments. Don't be surprised, find out ahead of time. Nothing sours riding a bike when you're counting down the miles to a costly valve check that happen every 3,500 or so miles. Look ahead because hindsight is only 20/20 if you don't have your head up your butt! The best part stying-wise is it isn't another Japanese HD ripoff. Kawacopys and Yamaha Starleys be damned, LOL!
Excellent review, sir! Thank you so very much!
SS
I believe it is/has a full colour TFT dash - the reviewers camera wasn't doing a great job of showing that fact. At times you could see the rev counter showing green as it climbed up and down. The manufacturers website states it is colour.
Thanks you seem like a good guy. I wish you blessings and happiness throughout your life. Stay cool...
An issue with US buyers would be the availability of aftermarket parts. I don’t know if this brand is even available here, but they would be wise to stock up on accessories. That is the part of owning cruisers that will let them down if they’re not prepared. Few US cruiser owner leave their bikes stock for very long. Harley and Indian probably make as much or more on accessories than on actual bike sales.
Those cans must go!
First time I’ve found your channel, enjoyed the review nice style thank you.
28:46 only issue with this is that for the cost you can certainly get a kawasaki vulcan 1700 for much less and certainly much more bike, granted that's 2nd hand, but still a great buy 🤷🏻♂️
I would.
Not a cruiser fan but this looks good. And, it has a decent front mudguard. A little less black and more chrome would be nice.
Nice bike and seems good value. The massive tyres will be pricey though. I still prefer my Guzzi V9 Roamer for looks though.
Nice bike, can’t wait for your review of the SWM stormbreaker V1200.
Nearest dealer in a good 2-3 hours away though and I don't know who the importer is now. Is there a new one since 3cross closed a few years ago?
21:49 best not to get too carried away on the right hand turn or bend, cos I'll bet those huge cans could hit tarmac 😊
Oh man I love the look of this bike but at 70 mph it sounds like a 300cc single?? Sounds loverly on tick over though..
Certainly looks good.
What a beast of a motorcycle 🤟 I think it suits you Mark!
Mr Motors for the Masses.
can you say = I never broke the law! I AM THE LAW! 😛
Love it
Didn't Yamaha make the fs1e?
Very interesting deets about the company. It's a very desirable machine, it'll be interesting to see reports from long term owners about its serviceability.
Nice review. 👍
Yes, Yamaha, which is why I put the text up as I mistakenly said Honda.
@motorsforthemasses soz... didn't see that. 🙂
10:39 surprised they didn't go TFT on the screen considering the nine and a half grand ticket
I'm a cruiser rider and you couldn't give me one. Not even new, never mind when the moulds wear out and Chinese cost cutting raises it's head. They've tried to reinvent the cruiser and failed, Cruiser design peaked around 2000, this is just fussy and ugly. Also with my prosthetic left leg a foot board you find perfect will not be right for how my ankle angles. As for driver modes. I have those on all my bikes. They are built into my right wrist, foot and fingers, left fingers and brain.
The only modern gizmo I want is DCT so I wouldn't need to adapt my geared bikes (which ironically absolutely requires modes with the clutch gone).
Nooo.. I thought we had lost the self indulgent 3 minute long intro! Lol. Great vid all the same.. Keep em coming.. Maybe a benelli trk 702x? I would love to see your opinion. Take care
Coming soon
@@motorsforthemasses fantastic.. Looking forward to seeing that.
When you first mentioned the 'back light' I thought you meant a switch to turn on the rear light cluster.
Another rival would be perhaps a 2nd hand Diavel.
Or my 1977 Ducati GTS. Smoother engine and waaaay better sound.
That's a great looking bike
5.8 gallon fuel tank.... should be @ least a 200 mile range.
At 17:35 - the “jerkiness” you’re referring to i think is better described as “TORQUE” - just saying…
Love these new chinese bikes but just remember where are all the chinese scooters from the 2000s
Great endorsement for MBP!😂
Sounds like a scooter, and like a Hardley Dumbitson, it's underpowered.😢
It looks like a Livewire and an Indian Scout had a baby.
Sebuah motosikal yg menarik dan cantik tetapi tidak dijual di Malaysia
Would you please confirm this is a belt drive and not the old fashioned sticky and mesdy metal chain?
Yes, belt.
Side mounted small number plate, and exhaust needs sorting , then I'd be interested ❤
Does look good, unlike the human rights, environmental issues,would it as good purchase if it was from a Russian company?
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I don't like cruiser bikes like that. The wind drag limits my speed to 80 km/hr, unless you're built like a gorilla. The seating position kills my lower back.
Imagine the cost of maintenance for a unique bike like that... Crazy.😮
MBP.... The nearest AD to Plymouth is Bodmin. Pain in the arse for compulsory Servicing (winter etc) and the AD didn't convince me that parts are readily available. Not for me.
Any MotoGB dealer should be able to service it ok.
Good video but I think the intro could do with cutting in half!
Would rather have a 2/1 exhaust, ditch those huge cans and save some weight. Otherwise, it looks ok, if you like cruisers.
Foot boards, not foot plates!
Can you eat off of them!?😂
Breakfast, dinner & tea. Breakfast, lunch & dinner, Breakfast, dinner & dinner....
Why not sold in the US?
Hi mark do you still have your motorcycle shop just only not seen you there for a long time
Not since July last year
Is it available in the U.S.?
Assume it’s actually made in China although not mentioned…?
It very much is...see the video title and description.
Needs a decent exhaust system.
One word, MEATY.
That sewing machine sound is awful but nothing an aftermarket exhaust cant fix
Let's hope that thing never comes to America! Reminds me of the cheesy Yamaha V's from the 80's, dorky and unimaginitive in style. This bike not only has odd squareness to it's design but that exhaust note is terrible.
Hello, can you tell us what was your fuel consumption in a daily riding.
Hi, sadly I didn't have it long enough or a fair enough riding style to judge properly
China's motorbike problems with after sale service and spares
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Carefully avoids the fact that they're made in China.
No thanks. Not at any price.
The problem for me is I dont care how initially good they are. On more than one level I dont like they are made in China. But first as an owner it is simply parts availability. Wtf are you gonna do 1000 miles from home when your bike breaks down? Second pretty much every single "business" in China is state connected. I do not wish to spend multiple thousands of dollars on a product that directly benefits a govt that is openly antagonistic to mine. The big 4 or out the door.
Well sorry but the reason of your money going to china is beyond stupid. Dealerships pay their own money to buy these bikes, then they mark up and sell them to you. By buying one you legit benefit a UK dealer, since your money is being taxed and moved around in UK.
As for the big 4 or out the door.... As a yamaha/suzuki owner, the newest bikes are all made in Taiwan or China. You are just paying for overpriced parts. The design is stagnant and the technology in japanese bikes only just started catching up and look at the price they sell. A 500cc Hona Rebel costing almost 10k.... It's a joke. I'd rather buy the chinese/Italian and drive around in something that looks good and is just as reliable.
A China bike trying to be European brand, that made an Indian looking motorcycle.
It's a cougar 😂
HD and Indian are finished.
🤮 😢 rip bella motore
Stick a set of Indian badges on it and very few would be able to tell the difference.
Shaped more like a Livewire. But it does have the previous generation Scout gas cap.
The famous indian brand huh. I thought the country at first.
Looks a very cheap copy of the X diavel Ducati,but the Chinese bike will probably have ceased to exist in a couple of years
The size of the rear sprocket/pulley is ridiculous!😂 China is desperately trying to get what little horsepower this bike has, down to the road. No exhaust note because the engine is being choked. Try breathing in through your mouth, then exhale through a straw. That's what is going on with that underpowered joke of a bike.
I like the engine but the design is from a user of acid and he had a bad trip
Did you have acid ?
When you order an Indian off wish
I hate everything about it !
Why?
Cruisers not my thing but that really looks the business 😊
Better looking than US offerings 👍
Is that all? 😲
Why are you pushing sub-standard Chinese bikes. I bought a piece of crap from China and could not get parts. It's worse than buying a crappy under powered Royal Enfield.
Not all people want to speed on bikes.Some just want to enjoy rides.Which,with your sunny disposition,seems impossible for you.