The Chroma Dilemma
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2024
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This is mostly a follow up on my Chroma video 7 months ago. Clarifying some points and going through a brief recap.
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Crithpyy • Self-Damage Chroma Build
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My Chroma will outspeed your Wisp
EDIT: Combat is affected by DR, forgot to note this but you’ll still run a healing source anyways to offset the HP loss
Yeah and I'll take 3 chroma gunzerkers over a single shock mote troll
U really hate shock mote huh?
banned, unfriended, expose vid coming, took your balls, took your mail, open said mail, wanted for tax invasion, approaching your house rapidly.
There was one additional function of Elemental Ward, which you didn't cover here in the video (and fair enough, since NOBODY knows of it), but got patched out and I REALLY want it back.
Ice Elemental Ward has this Damage Multiplier, which you talked about with the Xata's Whisper bug. This multiplier used to also affect similar abilities, like Trinity's Link, Nidus' umbilical cord, and Saryn's Toxic Lash.
It turned tank abilities into sort of DPS abilities. Especially Toxic Lash got real nasty, since the Toxin procs from redirected shots were amped by Ice EW, and still popped Spores. This still kind of works, the Spores are popped, but the damage is now unaffected by Ice EW.
I really wish this got patched in again, since it was patched out with the Ice EW + Xata's bug fix.
@jeremiahjohnson2784 yes DEsgusting need to get it out of the game. There is no mission where it is genuinely useful. The augment does absolutely nothing besides waste a mod slot and confuse newer players. It is not useful crowd control (most missions you actually need to avoid crowd control as it only makes the slow grindy missions slower) it's only a single shock proc (also can mess with getting consistent hits for adaptation maintenance) and the most common place you find yhe shock mote trolls is defense where it can slow the mission by 60-80% on average
But it isn't just the mote when i say shock mote troll I'm referring also to a type of false build for wisp with way too much range piss poor strength and just enough duration that it's as annoying as possible if you accidentally walk into the area of effect and usually running the counterproductive augment then placing it right in the way of people who are just trying to get things done
Unfortunate too, I love the way chroma looks and like the concept of him breathing elemental fire, ice, lightning, etc. I hope they give him a nice rework.
I feel you bro
I'm sure DE will come around for our Dragon boi, as in his lore-he was forgotten but he was never defeated c:
Kinda sad when you think about that back then he even got this weird big role in the pre second dream story
I feel like Chroma could've been what Lavos had with elemental manipulation, but ended up being a prototype for the idea.
Perhaps with Lavos' success, DE has new ideas for how to reinvent Chroma
@@thetuerk copium
@@themelonman3384 definitely copium but we can only hope
@@ptbro3334 real
@@thetuerklavos was very unsuccessfull
It's the year of dragon and Chroma still left behind
We'll see, give DE time, maybe we will see something good this year, they have given Hydriod and soon Inaros some love, maybe our Dragon boi love too.
@@kingoffire105 Pablo still cooking and all we will get is the sand upgrade
@@hartantoanggoro Not sure what to take of that. But I think we just have to wait.
@@kingoffire105 He means Inaros is in the oven at the moment so Dragon boi gotta wait
@@steadfastscout4606 Oh, true true. Lets hope he comes out tasty, Inaros, and hopefully soon, Chroma!
I would like to see a total overhaul of Chroma's kit.
Chroma is meant to be a dragon. At the moment he does not feel like a dragon, he feels like a mash-up of random ideas that have next to no synergy or purpose.
Just make Effigy a transformation like Sevagoths Shadow, let Chroma become a necramech sized dragon or some shit, idk.
Chroma is a Warframe that slayed a sentient dragon and uses it as an effigy pelt to enhance himself. He is dragon themed, but solely that.
@@theexurian1079 how about effigy making the sentient dragon take over chroma and transforms him into a full out dragon?
@@DiroxOnTheBeat That sounds sick!
@@theexurian1079 That is going the half mile and not the full one.. I don't like that.
@@theexurian1079 had to ruin it didnt you? because i think many of us want to dream.
God I love how chroma prime looks, like a literal knight demigod of elements.
Damn, I'm not the only one! I just spiced up a tiny bit with some attachments, but otherwise kept that vanilla prime look, even applied his colors to some weapons 😁
Yeah, I love chroma prime, he's my Dragon Knight. I just wish his underarmor head looked more like normal chroma's, I'm struggling to make it look good with that barred visor
Still playing him, and I plan on it forever. He was the first frame that caught my eye, and I regret nothing.
My man 🔥
When I was looking through the list of warframes in the codex trying to pick which one I wanted to be my second warframe, my first pick was chroma and I don't regret it
Chroma fr was one of my favorite I never got him hit definitely one that stuck out to me
He has the coolest skin imo to
Another issue for Chroma in team play is when others give him mesmer skin or overguard, making it even harder to set up Vex Armor
I was running the circuit with a qorvex yesterday, and I had 10k over guard, I just gave up on vex armor till eventually he left.
@@The_Bird_Bird_Harder Do you mean Styanax or Frost? Qorvex doesn't give overguard, he gives status immunity, but I noticed that it might prevent retaliation bonuses for Chroma. I was using Qorvex with Nourish and Combat Discipline which gave me the arcane avenger crit bonuses, but wasn't pulsing out the viral retaliation waves as I took damage, while the status immunity plates were active. They did pulse out when I got nullified.
Stynax or a vigilant trinity can just make vex armor pain to build up
@@outrider8569 Try building up Vex armor when you have a Harrow making you immortal every 15 seconds. I only play Chroma solo now.
@@Seoul_Soldier I forgot about harrow invulnerability. Trinity is almost as annoying tho imo because 75% dr added as well
Chroma walked so Lavos could fly, but unfortunately DE had other plans and took the crowbar to chroma's kneecaps until he could barely crawl. Thank god Chroma is balanced for
You should do a collab vid with Triburos and Sabuuchi about potential changes to underpowered warframes.
that would go hard
ITS NOT THE ASH VIDEO, CLOCKS TICKIN'
It's coming I promise, no more polymer bundle gifts I BEG T_T
@@NovaUmbral they are cooomiiiingggggg
@@NovaUmbralfear it run from it destiny still arrives
You talk like suicide bomber 💣
Not the Loki video again, clocks ticking
This guy was like one of the most powerful and talked about frames last time I was playing. Damn this game moves so fast sometimes
He's still strong, it's just that two of his abilities are useless and many people find it boring to play with a warframe that all he does is stack buffs and let himself get beaten up.
@@brago900 well that’s good to hear since I’ve just got chroma prime sitting in my foundry. Heard he’s still a top pick for eidolon hunts
@@ellieswagaye Profit Taker more so than Eidolons.
I'm gonna be honest, I just press 2 and 3 and go to town. Never had many problems but never gave many thoughts to chroma's kit as a concept either. Very cool video pointing stuff I never gave too much of a thought.
im so glad to see people talking about chroma
Damn good proper beakdown with all the history (which most modern players dont even know how Chroma was 'unintentionally' good because his buffs used to be multiplicative). He needs a rework/update more than Inaros.
I hope this is one of those videos of yours that gets outdated because of a buff/rework because chroma is so cool visually. Its a shame this "dragon" frame is a glorified buff timer management sim.
Feels like the devs couldn't decide between dragon and dragon hunter tbh
@@samreddig8819he's both
And even then he gets beat out by Octavia who is the timer watching frame ft a broken crouch button
@@tlkfanrwbyfan8716 yea but the difference is, octavia was built to be that and she does it VERY well
Chroma wasn't supposed to be a boring warframe
He was the prototype of the 4 element system that we would see lavos flourish with
Not to mention the extremely fun bonus of being able to bullet jump twice
The new augment, depending on how it works, could make Vex Armor consistent again. This is enough to fix his current gameplay although it does not change the fact that it is a Warframe with 2 skills.
I'll never forget how excited i was when i first played Chroma and realised he has TWO BULLET JUMPS !!!
For that alone i love him lol.
Great video Mr. Umbral!
Same, even if they do rework him I don't want them to change it, it's just too fun
They added that in the rework.
Chroma should get a rework where his 4th turns him into a melee dragon like sevagoth. His first should be reworked to where fire(shoots fire and lava, leaving puddles that do damage over time) toxic( shoot sludge, that does acidic damage- poison and corrosive) ice ( literally freezing everyone in place, opening for finishers or crowd control), electric(stunning enemies for a couple seconds like volts first ability)
I have suggested a rework, and you did like parts of it. However, unless a good rework comes out, this is the current chroma we have to deal with.
I do remember he was an A tier Frame until DE demoted him and become C+ by max
he's my number 1 on my list of reworks i want i honestly hope he gets all new ability's more dragon themed like overguard like dragon skin. and for his 4 maybe a cast that changes depending on your element.
i love how chroma prime looks awsome but damn i wish he had some DRAGON ABILITYS
awsome firebreath maybe or some CLAWing melee combos and stuff :| and dragonic slam jams
edit: like make use of the wings like some kind of Strike down slam attack from above i dont want to sound lame but like doomfist meteor strike or a phanteon from league XD just excamples
yeah his kit is boring, give him some dragon abilities please DE.
his original concept had all that. His one was a rush and slam into enemies while doing damage which what ended in was basically an explosion of fire. his two was he had the ability to active a self heal with no stagger and faster fire rate, but that was too op so it was split and given to hyldryn (shield healing), atlas (no stagger), and harrow got the fire rate. even the ability to fly and draw aggro but that was too OP so DE gave it to Titania and hyldryn instead. :/ the only thing that was kept was vex armor. ironically it's what's keeping the poor thing on life support, a tiny piece of the original.
his concept was so dang good it was shattered into multiple frames and our poor boy was then nerfed unfairly
Yeah@@DragonHybryd Poor Chroma..
Chroma video, lets go. Haven't watched the video yet but woo yeah
I see... Yeah
Ahh Chroma. The best solo frame as long as you don't have any anxiety about having a constant DOOM timer ticking in the right corner of your screen
Was my favorite 😢and will still be my loved
About time to talk about our dragon boy in the year of the dragon
I feel like a support with my norish chroma build since he gives so many buffs. Max health, damage, viral damage, armor, energy and hp from molt reconstruct and a partly leveled combat discipline.
A few days ago I put together a pretty heavy-investment build and did a one-hour solo Void Cascade with chroma. It took a lot of effort to make the build work, balancing power strength and duration with defensive stats and sourcing healing and energy, but... Once I hit that sweet spot where the build worked, it worked completely totally fine. I get the feeling that people write Chroma off as a "bad warframe" because other frames already do what Chroma does, more easily and in some cases more effectively, but he's honestly really good at what he does if you put together the right build.
Really hope he gets the love he deserves, though. Would love to see DE *actually* deliver on the fantasy of being a dragon.
‐Link his elemental wheel to Elemental Ward and have it so you can use 2 wards simultaneously
‐Combine Spectral Scream(tap) and Effigy(hold), maybe make it function like a sentinel
-Have Spectral Scream scale; priming is great and all but is it really that useful. Also rework Afterburner augment
That frees up an ability slot for a mobility ability or something more suitable.
Also isnt Chroma lore-wise linked with Hunhow? Maybe a Sentient Roar akin to Terrify. Idk. Love dragons, love Chroma, but his kit is mostly just Vex Armor. And Vex Armor is great😎
Yeah, feelsbadman, he deserves so much more. Design wise he's a cool badass dragon with a sick new year skin, but he doesn't have enough going for him anymore for em to see high usage. I remember when Eidolons released, Playing a high STR chroma with glaive for self damage with the vectis built for crit was one shotting every limb. I have some clips saved of those fun days, it was truly efficient farming. But then the nerfs came down, I never touched chroma again, he dropped heavily on my roster for usage.
Babe wake up NovaUmbral just dropped a new video
Thank you so much for this video. Chroma main almost since the beginning and I can’t find a reason to run him anymore. Doom Rhino exists and is just better in every way. Everything kills so efficiently now that I can’t even enjoy the power ramp up, and since it’s a base additive buff anyways it just doesn’t feel as good as it used to. He needs help
I loved your wrap up. she's not.. bad. Just a bit finicky and needs alot of investment
I remember getting into a survival mission with some randoms, just to begin to beg them to not use their abilities as it was a Styanax stacking Overguard, a Frost stacking Overguard, and a Hildryn perma-charging everyone's shields while I was playing Chroma. I just had to stop using my abilities because there was literally nothing I could do to stack Vex armor since that all had so much range.
It would be fun if they released an augment mod that switched the conditions for vex.
What i mean is that he gets his fury right away, but he now only gains his armor after receiving health damage stacking.
Something I would do to help is make his effigy always follow him, have his spectral scream shoot out an elemental beam kind of like wisp ultimate but have it scale.
I miss my chroma man I look at it every time I pass by in the arsenal and just feel disappointed when umbral forma first got added to the game he was the first frame I stuck one in and was also my first frame to be forma'd over 6 times which back then was a super huge investment
I remember feeling so big brained doing stuff like throwing exploding kunai at my feet to charge my damage taken passives and hitting 70 seconds duration on 2 and 3 for the first time
Its nice but sad to look back on memories like this because his theme is so cool but a lot like lavos another one of my favorite frames there is just no content id ever have a reason to use him for at least lavos gets to be my railjack pilot
If you have the cold ward and you have melee influence on your melee weapon, when the arcane activates anyone that shoots you gets procced with cold from ward, but melee influence spreads it to all enemies around that target as if it was melee damage. It's an exploit for sure, but its pretty effective to make all enemies effectively be at max slow at all times.
im like MR 6 and barely understand half the stuff you say but i still eat and watch
Chroma is a walking primed serration that is capable of holding your weapons.
Im gonna be mad if he does not get reworked after Inaros. He needs it even more than... Even more than my beloved Banshee 😢
There are so many frames in similar or worse position with many indirect nerfs and meta changes. They really gotta address it in other way than just dropping one augment without kit tweaks like they are trying with Loki.
Nyx, Loki or even excal just got shafted with indirect nerfs. Their whole kits other frames have in one ability. My fave equinox, from being one of strongest frames ingame now is borderline useless outide of eso. 3 is not an ability and just doesn’t exist, eximus units immune to cc make whole sleep play style impossible not to mention every pub having wisp waking everyone up with electric procs. Half of the kit doesn’t scale with anything, 4 can’t nuke without armor strip so you gotta build high strength with helmith to be able to use it. Augments left in gutter too.
Recently grabbed chroma for archon and guy asked if I’m trolling with profit taker build.
I remember when everyone had a Chroma in their squads back in the day when prime frames were also ridiculously expensive.
His first should be kinda like dagaths Doom where he force procs your chosen element in a conical shape forward, these enemies would instantly get the elements effect (unless they have overguard) electric stun, cold frozen, heat stagger ect..
or just use dagath
Tanky elemental dragon is a great theme, a rework wouldn’t be hard to imagine
I love the video and I wanna say a MASSIVE THANK YOU for calling it a nerf at 8:37 instead of a fix! The justification they have for nerfing it is complete crap, especially since by definition of the words redirect ("direct (something) to a new or different place or purpose") and reflect ((of a surface or body) throw back (heat, light, or sound) without absorbing it.) It should have been an intended feature and left alone.
I also want to point out an error in there description of the fix by DE: It says "Fixed Chroma's 'Cold' Elemental Ward applying large damage multiplier bonus to 'bullets' that hit..." The problem in that comment is "bullets". This is completely misleading, as it implies that any weapon letting out projectiles could make use of this. It only affected Hitscan and Beam weapons, not projectile, explosive or melee (reason I mention melee is Gunblades). DE clearly didn't test this properly before nerfing it, otherwise they would have known this, and how much investment it took to make this cheese-able, which is double what it takes now to cheese level cap.
Oh, and another thing they ignored when this combo gets running... IT CONVERTED ALL DAMAGE DEALT TO COLD! That is literally in Cold Elemental Ward's description. So in other words, once everything was being redirected, no viral, heat, slash, impact, puncture. None of it. Just Cold damage and status effect. Only way you were getting a slash proc was Hunter Mu-Mu, which didn't even take the cold multiplier into account. Any other status effects would have to come from companions, teammates or abilities.
Thanks for the awesome video and sorry for the long paragraph, but I just hate the amount of misleading crap surrounding the nerf, especially because the Xata's Whisper variation specifically has even more crap to get into for how it worked.
My main issue with chroma in current warframe is that most of the time there is another frame giving the whole squad oversheilds or overguard and most casees both making it literally impossible to get the fury buff without combat diciplin and i wish i didn't have to use it
Still sour about the change to Vex Armor. Their reason for changing of "It wasn't in line with how all the other dmg buffs worked so we made it more in line with them" when Roar and Eclipse STILL exists. Chroma is actually THE reason i started to play Warframe as i randomly saw his trailer on PS4 and went "Yes, i'll play that".
I've played as him a LOT which my account merging showed. Before the merge Chroma and his prime were 3rd and 4th. After merging Chroma jumped to first and Prime stayed at 4th as he was not released until after i moved to PC.
I've actually been trying to test negative duration mods with catalyzing shields on his shield buff (since it recovers shields the moment you cast it) to see if it's even possible to shield gate with him.
It probably won't actually work but if it does that'd be hilarious.
I can’t help but think DE often forgets Chroma exists. He has received so many buffs and nerfs because of changes that indirectly affected him, such as self-damage removal, double Exodia Contagion, Fortified Will, and even Elemental Ward keeping the old stat scaling after Abyss of Dagath.
Imagine being able to turn into a half dragon, or the pelt being a whole different companion.
Master of elements? No, it's Lavos.
Weapon master? No, it's Rhino and Kullervo and Xaku and Harrow and... Well, there's a lot.
Cool 2 in 1 frame with his dragon skin working separatly? No, it's Sevagoth.
Unkillable tank? Well, we all know.
Loot frame? Well, only for credits.
I'd argue that 3rd thing being closer to equinox
Video number 2 of asking NovaUmbral for a atlas video
Maybe they should re-scale the formula to better match like how the new Health and Shield is formulated so that we no longer need 300% but instead get the same at half percent, meaning 150% strength can get you at 1000 buffs while scaling with enemy levels with 200% or more same with ward, while increasing base range. Effigy need fo rescale to equal a credit booster while acting like one to get double or quadruple booster from credit booster from market, weekends, and/or blessing. Upgrade strength to give scaling to enemy levels for damage reduction and dealing. Ward needs rescaling with fire giving overgaurd, and heat stripping electricity gives overshields and increase shield regen, ice damage reduction and knockdown reduction, toxin needs armor stripping with better reload and fire rate.
Try the new Guardian Armor augment mod, it's surprisingly op, you get Fury maxed pretty soon in the mission because it dmgs your health even when your allies take shield dmg (unless someone is running overshields frame). On top of that, if you have good hp pool and dmg reductions, you'll get Arcane Grace and/or Arcane Avenger to trigger almost everytime and keep you immortal while everyone else runs at +50% dmg reduction.
Also, I personally really like toxic spectral scream, you can stack corrosive with it, armor strip (albeit not so fast) and heal yourself with Emerald Archon shards while still killing everything with melee.
His new passive is a joke too oh man you can jump one more time
Ikrr like wth of all things de think we be a good passive for us to use is triple jump like really
Yeah, it's just salt in the wound because that's the only new thing that came with the "rework". Everything else was just QoL, not a real rework :/
However I must say it's very satisfying to use because of the mobility you get from the 2 bulletjumps and one jump. It's good, but I wish we got a ACTUAL reworked kit along with it
@@sebastianthomas531 if you remember to use it since hes one of only 3 ways to get extra jumps
I will say, he has his niches, and will have use, but that's all. If DE wants him to be more general use, they probably wanna do more.
ooh, now this looks interesting.
thank you for this. literally the only use Chroma has now is brute-forcing Profit-Taker raids, and even _then_ his role can be replaced by other warframes like an Eclipse-buffed Gauss (im just spitting examples) who can do it better with around the same or less effort. i've always wanted a buff that makes it possible to truly utilize Chroma's full kit without sacrificing stats; Effigy needs its energy drain halved, for starters, and that's just touching on a bigger issue that Chroma has, which is that he's barely needed for most types of missions now, at least in my eyes. imagine if Spectral Scream or Elemental Ward infused his weapons with its respective element like Toxic Lash did, Chroma would have access to a myriad of elemental weapon buffs just based on how one ability is used.
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As a chroma main want to add he makes very good use of shotgun vendetta, he doesn’t “need” the base damage as much, so the 180% multishot nets more status and potentially damage. Convectrix and boar are great weapons for this
(Edit you can also use Magus Elevate to keep your hp topped off.)
My Chroma's Vex Armor with gloom makes it basically unkillable as long as it doesnt run out of energy.
will always be my fav frame I'm just a basic gun enjoyer
even in 2024, my boy still not getting the respect he deserves. great vid, hope he gets a rework soon
as a chroma main, i agree with this message.
what saves chroma is that he may still be the best frame out there for someone that just want to use weapons. he benefits both guns and melee, on a good duration with bonuses far stronger than what other frames have access to and all on a tanky package. It's like a rhino without the CC or overguard, but that hits way harder.
It's not the identity it should have, but no other frame fits that niche still all centered around his 3
I replaced Vex Armor with Xatas whisper and removed the need to interact with damage entirely while still simulating the same idea of deal damage take no damage
I know his gimmick was suposed to be a "dragon" warframe or a dragon knight and yada yada yada, but i wish we can be the dragon instead of summoning one... Maybe they could rework his effigy so you can also hold the button to become the effigy, flying and getting more bonuses and things like that.
I just have to say that if Chroma has to be a dragon frame, then be a dragon frame, like... A real dragon...
Yes, i know his coat is from a sentient with the form of a dragon, still... He needs really a full rework because he doesn't do too much as others now do
He always reminds me of pre-reworked Aurelio Sol. He's nice to play if he fits the meta. But will show their kits flaws once the meta change
Are those hud colours custom, or a preset? looks verry cool
Chroma has potential (and looks) to be such a cool warframe. I wish there was an easier method to balance older warframes than the full-rework that so many of them need
The fact that he's a dragon frame but doesn't have a cone breath attack is heresy
Keep 1 add a held version to buff weapon with toggled element,
2 keep the buffs add spectral wings more movement speed reload speed etc. And it fears enemies in a SMALL aoe around yourself
3 give hom a hoard ability grouping ressources and enemies with a big aoe element damage
4 keep effigy it stays on one point and its chanfed to a elden ring like dragon head doing a huge breath attack of all elements, it also buff ressource drop when combiner with his 3rd.
There you go dragon themed relevant to the actual meta and keeps his strong suit.
Effigy should be an exalted like Sevagoth's shadow
I'm gonna add that another issue with Chroma is Elements.I don't know about you but i don't use elements for their effects, unless that effect is direct damage boosting or triggering some ability that give more direct damage. Chroma is a walking stat stick because elements in Warframe are really just stat sticks them selves.
Chroma my beloved
I plan on keeping Chromas good abilities and using helminth to make him my own chimera
Isnt overguard supposed to stack effects that are on HP hit as well? But it wont hit shields when someone gives chroma OG. Maybe we need a toggle to opt out of damage prevention abulities for choma and some other builds too, and it needs to be in the esc menu
Every dev streams I've been posting we need a chroma rework
I just use combat discipline and equilibrium, so i dont run out of energy and restore health
Them saying they would let us know well in advance when chroma is under review is yet another promise made to us that is forgotten in the dumps of the ever rolling ball of DE pushing update after update and leaving many things in the dust. At this rate we'll get a third orb mother, a caliban rework, and multiple new warframes with reworks for the newer released warframes before they ever even bother glancing at chroma's direction, but we'll just keep getting awesome dragon skins so even yareli has passed chroma at the useless but pretty game and I can't imagine a sadder fate than being outclassed by that degree. Usually warframes get reworks and buffs when primes and deluxe skins release, a prime and two deluxe skins later and chroma has still received less attention than the kid waiting on his dad to come back with milk. I don't understand what this frame has done for them to be so afraid to even consider looking at him or even acknowledge the state he is in, while giving things he should be good at to other frames. lavos is a better elemental frame, voruna follows her theme better than he does with his, rhino is a better tank and damage buffer, and mirage an overall superior weapon platform in every way.
Literally just subsumed him after unlocking helminth today
I got chroma because of double bullet jump and he looks amazing. Ill make his kit work lol
Kinda crazy that Chroma is one dimensional while his whole kit was obviously meant to be versatile. Changing elements could be a way to take advantage of enemy resistances and weaknesses or the different kind of buffs he can give.
It feels like the point of the character got completely lost.
Have a drink every time he says “Chroma.” 😂
I think there could be easy fixes.
Change spectral scream into a one use ability instead of continuous fire breath. And make spectral scream apply elemental damage for all weapons.
Elemental ward could theoretically stay the same. Or instead, combine elemental ward and vex armor into one ability. I say this because it’s extremely annoying to recast two abilities over and over and over again, even one of them doesn’t recast so that would be a plus.
Third ability can be effigy.
And fourth ability can be channeled ability. Whenever chroma takes enough damage, a rage meter will build and once it’s full, he can unleash the dragon and become a controllable creature, similar to sevagoth’s fourth ability.
I wish chroma was more like a dragon like give him the ability to fly around like a dragon I call it dragon arch wing and I wish he could attack with fire balls that scale with strength and if anybody here's plays monster hunter world I wish he was more like fatalis the black dragon his fire powers are insane chroma needs a rework
Chroma deserves to be looked at the fact he got a new years skin is just hard to cope with but i think problem is is that he doesnt have what other frames have and i really hope DE will change our perspectives on him if hes looked into
Really hoping Chroma gets a big rework this year.
Our dragon boi needs to become dragon
@@kingoffire105 yes! Cause right now he's just collecting space dust on my ship lol.
Lol@@ReviewersGuildArSR Poor boi..
@@kingoffire105 he excels in the circuit though. That's because of the decrees 🫤
If modded correctly yes@@ReviewersGuildArSR
I still don't understand why chroma, dragon warframe and master of the elements, doesn't have a fucking dragon transformation for his 4
Chroma is kind of stuck between a bunch of concepts:
- dragonslaying knight
- elemental master
- dragon
If I was to rework Chroma, i'd focus on the first 2 and have #3 relegated to, well, the Sentient Dragon pelt.
In short, as much as i like the Triple Jump for Chroma, it really is just tacked on. Rather, his passive should be that he deals increased damage to Eximus units and Bosses (multiplicative).
Spectral Scream could remain as it is, but hooked onto the Effigy: while attached, it acts as it does now, but when Chroma has it deployed, it replaces the beam.
Effigy should act akin to an exalted sentinel while it is channeled. When it is not deployed, Chroma would gain a Triple-Jump, but it can be deployed as either a stationary turret or to hover next to him like a sentinel. Upon killing an Eximus, the Effigy absorbs its essence, gaining its effect for a short time (the triple jump and eximus absorption would be precepts).
The Effigy, when deployed, would also extend Chroma's Elemental Ward and Vex Armor auras around it.
Moving Chroma's element changing from his 1st to his 2nd ability, and maybe moving the credits bonus from his 4th ability to his passive could free up his 1st and 4th ability slots for actual new and usable abilities while keeping the useful parts of the old ones, but that's just my suggestion. At this point, Chroma just needs a Hydroid level rework imo
Chroma has always been and still is very good
I just hope they keep the double credits for PT if they rework him
I think with Inaros and Hydriod getting updates we will see other frames getting updates. Chroma just needs skill updates not a full rework like his 1 & 4 need to be scaled better like if his 1 wasn’t channeled and instead just used to prime and his 4 was more like a pet or just didn’t drain so much energy.
I always felt like DE should have given Chroma the identity of the hoarding dragon. It struck me as weird that effigy only doubled credits. It always felt like it should have doubled other resources or drop chances depending on what element Chroma was. In addition to this, I wondered about what if they changed his passive to be some bonus or bonuses to his stats or abilities for picking up stuff. It would tie into his fourth ability, perhaps give a little more modding freedom or help his abilities scale during long missions.
They should change Chroma's buffs to be Affinity range like Titania's, that would be a wonderful change.
my main issue when i was playing with chroma was he only really kept his damage maxed in solo or when in survival on the other side of the map and in both scenarios if i was playing say limbo (my main) i will have had better damage and have cc with infinite survivability using rift and if i played in squad mirage will outclass the damage while not being has tanky the way hall of mirrors and total eclipse interact make the damage way higher then chroma ever can with most weapons and both these frames offer way more ways to play and buttons to press then chroma
i think the main thing DE should look to do with chroma is QoL to 2 and 3 and full reworks or massive changes and buffs to his 1 and 4 to make them true ability's worth using and building for (in the style of how mirage can build to nuke with her 2 and or 4)
Correction with combat discipline : damage reduction applies to this, i use this with Mesa and each kill drains basically nothing
Profit Taker goes BRRRR
My suggestion for him is to change completely the passive or at least add other stuff: like when he has the armor on he can 3ple jump, and off he gains 100% more drop of everything, like health, credits, energy and such
A new meter is added where the higher the meter, the stronger his ability becomes (both offensively and defensively) you can increase the meter only by dealing damage with abilities (all of them), this meter slowly drains
Buff the first ability (breath) to be a large "flame" in front of him that doesn't drain forever and doesn't last forever, like the more the Dragon meter is full greater the damage and distance/area covered is (same for effigy breaths)
Vex armor and elemental ward should be combined as a 2nd (Elemental armor) and changed a bit, elemental damage is more prominent in aoe, and the buffs are not so dependent on the element you use, only the elemental output (you gain shield buff by default, if the shield is damaged the armor increases, if the health gets damaged the damage of all weapons increases)
A new 3rd ability (Vex sword) where he gain a 2 handed dragon sword (like the weapon in his trailer) works offensively, high damage and defensively to helps teammates, this abilty (very slow and heavy slashes) creates bubbles where enemies are slowed down, allies and Chroma regen health, if health is full regenerates shield, if shields are full recharge energy
Effigy should be a MUCH more important aspect of the kit, shouldn't drain energy continuously since it has X health, but should drain more energy upon activation. Should follow chroma around and stay in one place only if you want to,, and overall should be the main aspect of his kit where the other abilities work in sinergy, that's why when Effigy is out dragon meter stops draining and every full dragon meter grants effigy activation with no Energy cost.