How Rhino Remained Relevant For A Decade In Warframe

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  • @NovaUmbral
    @NovaUmbral  Рік тому +127

    Hey everyone! Today we got Rhino. Also new Rhino skin launching soon with the Citrine's Last Wish update, so the timing couldn't have been any better ;)
    Also important note, if you do find any errors please do let me know as soon as possible and I'll address it when I can. Thank you for your continued support as always

    • @princequincy5421
      @princequincy5421 Рік тому +2

      As the filthiest Rhino main in my friend circle; this video warms my heart. Amazing content

    • @Bitterman5868
      @Bitterman5868 Рік тому

      I hope you cover Nyx soon.

    • @logosordiebear7886
      @logosordiebear7886 Рік тому

      I see that sobek, I too am a loyal member of the church of sobek

    • @leavemebevidsarecrappy9039
      @leavemebevidsarecrappy9039 Рік тому

      I hope to see a Garuda vid soon, but still i'm loving the content keep up the good work!!

    • @thefemboylord6129
      @thefemboylord6129 Рік тому

      After nidus and harrow I want nezha

  • @yurisopilnyak9425
    @yurisopilnyak9425 Рік тому +491

    what can I say, making a warframe with good and reliable survivability and good damage buff is a very simple, yet very effective strategy

    • @warmpereer65
      @warmpereer65 Рік тому +24

      If rhino's iron skin functions like mesmers skin. He will be the most op frame out there. Although you can subsume rhino's roar to revenant but with a less damage increase due to being a subsume ability

    • @ohdahngboi_2237
      @ohdahngboi_2237 Рік тому +5

      @@warmpereer65 just give rev mirage's eclipse or zaku's Xata's whisper, itll make him unstoppable

    • @Cantaloupe_Connoiseur
      @Cantaloupe_Connoiseur Рік тому +6

      ​@Warmpereer High power strength and thrall pact makes up that damage and then some

    • @realhumanbean7915
      @realhumanbean7915 Рік тому

      @@ohdahngboi_2237
      Or just roar.

    • @zaspirite
      @zaspirite 7 місяців тому

      Man i love Wukong

  • @LifeLikeSage
    @LifeLikeSage Рік тому +1025

    He's like a shark, over millions of years, he has never changed, because he is so well fit into his niche.

    • @cubezapper
      @cubezapper Рік тому +40

      Perfectly said.

    • @Bitterman5868
      @Bitterman5868 Рік тому +11

      Yet DE fucked him over by introducing hyldryn and never cared to fix his scaling

    • @Speckhouse1
      @Speckhouse1 Рік тому +83

      Not niche. The thing about rhino is that he primarily good at two things. Surviving and multiplying nearly all damage in the game. In a game where you lose by dying and you kill things.
      The reason why he's relevant for so many things is because he's as not-niche as you can possibly get in the game. And CC is a nice bonus.

    • @galacticpotata8192
      @galacticpotata8192 Рік тому +6

      Technically we can't say that anymore cause china has been overfishing them.

    • @clouded-glory
      @clouded-glory Рік тому +20

      Until the killerwhales start hunting him down in packs for his liver. Or in his case roar.

  • @godzillacc5
    @godzillacc5 Рік тому +150

    Rhino my beloved. First frame I farmed and remains my favorite and most used even to this date. Truly a masterful frame

    • @thegamertrio6827
      @thegamertrio6827 Рік тому +9

      a kindred soul, rhino was too my first frame and a few weeks later my first prime, i can always rely on rhino no matter what and even tho i do use other frames situationally like nekros on survival etc. i can always rely on rhino whenever i dont feel like doing that, my favourite frame, my reliable bastion of defence and damage, and the king of all cod-pieces, rhino truly is a masterful and timeless frame, pure perfection

    • @themilkman993
      @themilkman993 Рік тому +2

      Same

    • @HammboneBob
      @HammboneBob Рік тому +2

      I only get other frames so that I can increase mastery. You only need rhino.

    • @mikeharris6429
      @mikeharris6429 8 місяців тому +1

      Rhino is love, Rhino is life.

  • @ameteuraspirant
    @ameteuraspirant Рік тому +91

    rhino is that one old guy who has been through everything and has the strength and know-how to help you through a tough spot. He's done literally every job, and doesn't need fancy pants complicated tech.

    • @zDemoGODz
      @zDemoGODz Рік тому +8

      Old wolf vet, sipping his whisky and smoking his cigar while laughing at all the exacliburs dying at 15min on the survival mission.

    • @GDKF0238
      @GDKF0238 6 місяців тому +5

      What Excals lmao? You mean volt or mag?

  • @THERATSANDTHERATS
    @THERATSANDTHERATS Рік тому +160

    A simple frame for simple applications, he does whats needed and thats about it, and thats good, a frame doesn't need to be complex to be great and I think Rhino is the best example of it, even if I prefer more funky and complex frames, sometimes I like turning my brain off and just enjoying some rhino

    • @whitebwoi
      @whitebwoi Рік тому +2

      Nezha > rhino

    • @THERATSANDTHERATS
      @THERATSANDTHERATS Рік тому +11

      @@whitebwoi Okay?

    • @duskyblind4217
      @duskyblind4217 Рік тому +7

      ​@@whitebwoi Lmao No

    • @GDKF0238
      @GDKF0238 6 місяців тому

      Actually Nezha is better, but it’s not a necessary thing to mention lmao. Bc then you could say X frame is better than Nezha anyway

    • @GDKF0238
      @GDKF0238 6 місяців тому

      Oh wait. Ppl do that to Nezha. Nezha > Rhino lol

  • @Sjf0212
    @Sjf0212 Рік тому +126

    I've been a Rhino main since Update 8. I believe that Rhino hasn't gotten any changes because he simply doesn't need them. DE hit upon the perfect formula for a support tank with his kit; he is the perfect "oh crap" frame. "Oh crap, we need more damage!" Rhino has you covered with Roar. "Oh crap, 2 guys just went down!" Rhino jumps off a cliff to refresh Iron Skin, then goes and gets both of them up while laughing at enemies. "Oh crap, we're getting swarmed!" Stomp gives you the perfect opportunity to recharge shields, grab some energy via Wellspring, or just take a breather. Deep specialization can push Rhino into a more prominent CC, buffer, or tank role, but ultimately Rhino is just what you want in an early frame, easy to get, easy to start using, and invaluable when mastered.

    • @TheOneWhoBugs
      @TheOneWhoBugs Рік тому +7

      Well, now he's not that easy to get. I mean, old Jackal was lame af so it's True, but New Jackal is... Idk how New players experience this thing but for me he's a strange one, not very hard yet not so easy if you compare him to Vor, Lech or SERGEANT, among them New Jackal is quite hard

    • @BigHailFan
      @BigHailFan Рік тому

      amen brother. ive made mine a sort of "jack of all trades" rhino. surviving thanka to iron skin. stasis the map with stomp to help out. roar for a near x3.5 damage boost (not done building that and damage varies
      on conditions.) he lets me roll solo or help everyone out. been my main since getting him.

    • @cory6266
      @cory6266 7 місяців тому

      My first exposure to warframe was the Alad V trailer, and rhino is what made me want to play the game in the first place.

  • @TheOldest
    @TheOldest Рік тому +50

    Rhino, the OG Jack of all Trades. Was so happy first time I unlocked him, abused the hell outta of him when Index dropped too. Always a good frame to have on hand.

  • @FureaFae
    @FureaFae Рік тому +34

    Rhino is the personification of perfecting fundamentals. There is no gimmick, no secret combo, no press one button to win... Rhino is just a really solid foundation capable of adapting on the fly, and having a good amount of self-preservation. The calling cards of a true ninja.

  • @ThunderJunkOC
    @ThunderJunkOC Рік тому +378

    Most balanced frame DE ever made. Has remained great for a decade.

    • @ohdahngboi_2237
      @ohdahngboi_2237 Рік тому +5

      i guess nidus isnt a thing

    • @jr9529
      @jr9529 Рік тому +38

      ​@@ohdahngboi_2237 well hopefully nidus doesn't change when he turns 10 lol

    • @CatAreCoolONG
      @CatAreCoolONG Рік тому +4

      ​@@ohdahngboi_2237 2nd most balanced

    • @waynejulian277
      @waynejulian277 Рік тому +1

      tanks are immune to powercreep because a good wall is useful in aby comp

    • @gnowster1897
      @gnowster1897 Рік тому +1

      ​@@waynejulian277 The best offence is a good defence

  • @belliebun4529
    @belliebun4529 Рік тому +28

    And with Seven Crimes of Kullervo, Rhino’s Iron skin now grants Overguard, which not only makes him immune to crowd control but also allows him to use arcanes that proc upon taking damage.

    • @noahedenborg4221
      @noahedenborg4221 Рік тому +1

      I mean its just iron skin but with visual changes and some undocumented buffs

  • @ThePopeOfAwesomeness
    @ThePopeOfAwesomeness Рік тому +61

    He's just a good fun frame. He works well in different ways and above all he's easy to use. He's also a god with the MIGHTY SEER

  • @ImSamhel
    @ImSamhel Рік тому +66

    Simplicity is the keyword with rhino. Ironically the more complex a warframe is the less reliable it becomes, mostly because of animation times, stack or duration limitations or horrible scaling

    • @lemeres2478
      @lemeres2478 Рік тому +5

      And it also probably has SOMETHING that breaks, either for or against the player. And taht leads to reworks, which rquires ups and downs as they try to make it work without over working.

  • @RobbieStarburster
    @RobbieStarburster Рік тому +37

    It's funny how consistent he remained despite all the potential nerfs. He's a frame you can't go wrong with using.

  • @taaseenrahman8000
    @taaseenrahman8000 Рік тому +73

    I'm a Rhino main and I was looking forward to this video. Nice to learn about what the frame was like before i started playing

  • @rockenston
    @rockenston Рік тому +15

    In some sense Rhino is very simiar to Gauss: he'll stay relevant as long as the game mechanics he's built upon stay relevant. And the whole "not dying + boosting damage" thing will always be a crucial part of the game, so Rhino will always stay at least decent, if not better

  • @GT-legendary
    @GT-legendary Рік тому +6

    i remember playing rhino and frost in the beta days and around launch. man those 2 frame were TANKS
    i mean didn't matter how high the enemies were if they activated iron skin or snow globe, no bullets were piercing through

  • @shanecoffing
    @shanecoffing Рік тому +15

    I feel like rhino is just the perfect beginner frame, and should be given after the tutorial for building (I know it basically is on Venus but new players don't know that)
    He is a frame that doesn't require much input and let's players focus on gameplay. Turn on ironskin, turn on roar, run around and kill stuff. 1 and 4 are panic buttons. He is just a simple frame with good tools. Damage/stagger immunity and damage buff. Always solid.

    • @zDemoGODz
      @zDemoGODz Рік тому +5

      No. He should never be a beginner frame. A lot of people dont understand his role in the life of a newb. ITS SHOWING YOU WHAT MODS CAN ACHIEVE. Just a little bit of power strength makes you immortal on low levels. That gets you thinking "hmm this is kinda strong, what if i also do this". Then 10 wiki searches later the noob has 5000 iron skin rhino that lets him do most of the content in the game. Without this players will drop warframe, because thats how it gets you hooked. The feeling of "i made this OP". Thats why im harshly against looking up builds when youre new.

  • @brightenblack207
    @brightenblack207 Рік тому +108

    Nekros is another frame that has stayed relevant since his release but not because his whole kit is good. It's all because of one ability: Desecrate. Best farming ability in the game. Recently with the armor strip changes, Terrify has been getting some attention. However Nekros can struggle taking advantage of that ability on his own since his Shadows' damage becomes less consistent as enemies run away and his Punch's damage isn't great and it pushes enemies away when it's used. Nekros can potentially be a good tank or do an alright amount of damage but both things require a lot of set up and specific items to get there

    • @PetroleumJellyJuggernaut
      @PetroleumJellyJuggernaut Рік тому

      🤨

    • @tlkfanrwbyfan8716
      @tlkfanrwbyfan8716 Рік тому +10

      Loot Daddy gonna Loot Daddy

    • @SlurpSmudge
      @SlurpSmudge Рік тому +12

      punch isn't for damage, it's for cherry-picking what enemies you have in your undead army

    • @brightenblack207
      @brightenblack207 Рік тому +17

      @@SlurpSmudge it originally didn't do that and it's very inconsistent on whether it actually summons the enemy. Even if you do try to use it to pick specific enemies, you can't pick many worthwhile ones until you have to use 4 or the first one times out. The best thing it has going for it is the insta kill at low health but that's not reliable enough to use when you can push people back making them hard to kill

    • @SlurpSmudge
      @SlurpSmudge Рік тому +5

      It's very consistent. As long as you kill the enemy within 3 seconds of using the ability, it will come back as a shadow. Only problems are the ragdoll and the fact that it doesn't work on enemies with overguard for some reason.

  • @HellishSpoon
    @HellishSpoon Рік тому +1

    4:54
    man i miss the box shaped ogris and torid, they were so much more simple, iconic and funny looking.

  • @davidedema7641
    @davidedema7641 Рік тому +1

    Bro i have to admit, I've been watching these warframe videos here on your channel since the Excalibur video and as a Nintenno, I love your content and I'm proper looking forward to umbra, oberon and chroma!!

  • @demonkingsparda
    @demonkingsparda Рік тому +7

    Y'know, I chose Rhino when I started playing because he looked like the best fit for a melee build. I had no idea he was literally the best frame in the game

    • @danielcox7629
      @danielcox7629 Рік тому +4

      The best frames are specialists and get replaced often. Rino is pretty great in every situation besides maybe spy.

  • @ItzTermx
    @ItzTermx Рік тому +19

    as a rhino main this video brings me joy xD

  • @adamjsher04
    @adamjsher04 Рік тому +11

    Like...well...everyone, Rhino has a special place in my heart. Still a go to frame at times. Love the guy

    • @zDemoGODz
      @zDemoGODz Рік тому +2

      Its my "welp lets look whats new" frame when i come back every 2 years. Don't need to change any mods or anything, just load into a game.

  • @DVAted
    @DVAted Рік тому +5

    Man I missed seeing the animation for Radial Blast. I loved punching the ground. It felt bad when they removed it and kept the leg stomping, because it seemed much less cool.
    Was my favorite for the longest time. Still in my top 3

  • @FlashKillerX
    @FlashKillerX Рік тому +4

    I wonder how different Warframe would be if Rhino’s ironskin was his subsume instead of his roar. Roar is one of the strongest and most go-to helminth abilities but ironskin is pretty cracked too so it’s hard to say

    • @amolistic_
      @amolistic_ Рік тому

      basically 3 of his abilities are cracked at the beginning. A design miracle you could say.

  • @cartman55655
    @cartman55655 Рік тому +8

    Rhino was the first warframe I ever got. His kit was so easy to learn and made getting into the more complex parts of the games easier.

  • @aghitsaplane4262
    @aghitsaplane4262 Рік тому +6

    The main thing that's kept rhino from ever falling off is that his kit will work well no matter the situation,most frames that have fallen off are specialists that were built around doing something that became pointless as the game evolved but rhino's kit is literally just "more damage,don't die" and that'll be good in any situation,you could probably put rhino in an entirely different mmo and he'd still be good

    • @ElHarmonyV
      @ElHarmonyV Рік тому +2

      Imagine rhino in something like WoW, a tank that can become invincible to CC and Dots while giving his allies a 50% damage boost plus has an aoe CC that can stun lock a whole room.

    • @Crxw2Tired
      @Crxw2Tired Рік тому +2

      Rhino in any other game seems so dangerous and I love it.

  • @Jay-sl3jm
    @Jay-sl3jm Рік тому +8

    Loki was my starter frame. I played the game a lot early on, and I always looked forward to getting rhino prime. Unfortunately, I had quit after a short while. About 600 days ago, he was unvaulted, and I returned to the game. I’m now LR 2 and main rhino for everything. It’s like I knew back then that I needed him

    • @zDemoGODz
      @zDemoGODz Рік тому

      Lmao back in the old days I didn't use him much because i considered him the "bullshit noob frame". Just press 2 and spam tonkor.

  • @amolistic_
    @amolistic_ Рік тому +25

    20:22 replacing stomp is actually very bad in overall, because how numbers work, you will find yourself struggle a lot with dealing with damage scaling, and taking away stomp take his power away of able to counter violence even before entering his silence range, stopping exmius/ overguarded enemies from moving at all, and yeah, demolishers too, and quite literally, all chart bosses.
    And violence being the most scary acolyte to literally all frames, taking away
    Stomp is just making him struggle to deal with violence due to him simply taking out your hard build iron skin and reduced to nothing.
    And I guess most people really don't understand that "iron skin setup" is no longer a better alternative, due to how limited he can be with the way of modding it, and probably make him far weaker than you all expect.
    IT IS JUST BAD. SO OVERRATED.
    Shield gate with iron skin with 175% efficiency or neutral efficiency with arcane energize is actually a far better alternative now due to how invisible period works.
    28:29 no. A complete no.
    The current meta of rhino is to literally abuse the iron skin recast to constantly getting that 3s invulnerable period and let the game build up iron skin health.
    Rhino is the only frame capable of not using any augment whatsoever.
    If you want to rank:
    1. Iron shrapnel
    2. Piercing Roar
    3. Reinforcing stomp
    4. Ironclad charge
    Recasting iron skin is literally his way of playing, with the way of this building method, he is literally the 2nd frame capable of having no rolling guard, no vazarin and still thrive in level cap missions, simply because how broken iron skin alone is.
    With the rotation of cast iron skin, iron skin down, shield down, do the shield gate with iron skin recast, or occasionally cast one more abilities due to even shields can be down when iron skin is recasted.
    You are just so, so fine. Nothing can kill you. With other frame relies so much on vazarin and rolling guard to even survive, he is the only frame besides rev, that can care no about dying, if you don't play badly.
    32:43 it is expensive for reasons.
    Imagine an ability that can literally stop anything, eximus, thrax, acolytes and all chart bosses, destroy spy cams, exceptional cc viability that just simply bodied over gloom in cc power, any defensive missions with his 4 is a complete joke, modding range? Guess you wanna see the half of the map stops around you...
    This is the raw cc viability that almost all cc frames wish they could have, and it is on a frame that is not made for cc.
    33:33 least useful...Holy jesus. What is this actual hell.
    A CC that care less about anything, acolyte's bane of existence besides silence from banshee, stealth farming machine, the only ability that makes him viable in not only saving teammates in a pinch with that cc, the only ability that made him a good spy frame due to stop is able to destroy cams, interception is a joke, almost everything is a joke in front of this cc.
    This is just too unreal in my eyes.
    Stomp is literally his greatest panic button and any defense based mission is just another joke for him, his panic button that stops everything that tries to pose a threat to you.
    And you tell me it is the least useful abilities of his kit.
    No way. Just no way.
    His 1 is way more useful...*sigh*
    You are taking away 35% of his versatility just to have funny iron skin numbers...
    Bro.
    I am just very sad that I HAD TO ADMIT this is just another misinformation about how Rhino should be, the first half part I can agree, but the last few mins is just sad for me who played him religiously for 1 year, dugged out almost all aspects of him, what he is capable of, and how severely underrated he is in other category, there's so much thing you didn't mention about him and it is okay, consider that you don't play it religiously, and yet, this is just another "iron skin setup" rhino build for me.
    I never felt so disappointed by a video form you, to be honest.
    - Sincerely from a hardcore Rhino main.

    • @TheOldest
      @TheOldest Рік тому +6

      You seriously just gave me flash backs of Brozime reviewing Mag after her rework trying to say how bad she was. Made a such a long post breaking down measuring how good her kit was by playing her with the old meta and not getting the same results doesn't mean she's bad.
      Anyways liked the post, keep up the passion, from someone who can't play so much anymore because now I have kids. 👍

    • @PetroleumJellyJuggernaut
      @PetroleumJellyJuggernaut Рік тому +13

      Rhino main types a whole essay for no reason moment

    • @amolistic_
      @amolistic_ Рік тому

      @@PetroleumJellyJuggernaut Nah, It is just me thinking that he is just misunderstood by many.

    • @tylerprime6741
      @tylerprime6741 Рік тому +2

      Doesn't the ne zha damage reduction/immunity ability work virtually the same was as rhino? Would ne zha not also be a frame that doesn't NEED rolling guard/vazarin?
      Also very good points, wish more rhino players used him this way. I swear all I see is the iron skin version in pubs

    • @fishcake4473
      @fishcake4473 Рік тому +4

      @@tylerprime6741 nezha's "iron skin" doesn't provide full immunity, so he dies when giga damage numbers come in.

  • @G1ggl3z
    @G1ggl3z Рік тому +1

    Rhino's the definition of _"if it ain't broken _*_DON'T_*_ fix it"_
    I remember trading the parts to get Rhino Prime and after getting him he's my main boi for Index and sometimes defensive

  • @doootheytho9821
    @doootheytho9821 Рік тому +5

    I’d say the only things rhino could use as QoL would be:
    1. his rhino skin UI, meaning instead of having his iron skins health value shown at the top right of the screen as a small icon that can get cluttered up with other buff icons, just copy what they did with nezha’s warding halo health UI and/or garudas UI on her damage passive.
    2. An energy pool buff to his prime variant. not asking for huge buff just a little buff like inaros prime. Mainly because helminth exists now so some subsumed abilities may require a lot more energy. We shouldn’t have to throw 2-4 blue shards on a frame for that.. not on primed frames at least imo. Him along with frost p and ash p still remain the lowest energy pools in the game (425 energy with max p flow equipped) and it’s just archaic at this point. Other frames have way larger energy pools than they really need so why not buff these 3 too.
    3. As you stated already, making roar recastable. Self explanatory really.
    W video as always, keep up the good work

  • @blazin220
    @blazin220 Рік тому +1

    I Played Rhino when The beta first came out. The first change to his Iron skin was Pretty much what the community was talking about until they reverted the change. Till this day I have never seen a backlash that hard.

  • @tannerkennedy4192
    @tannerkennedy4192 Рік тому +1

    The thing about rhino stomp is that it’s slow effects eximus units even when they have over guard making it one of few effective crowd controls when eximus have over guard and it effects acolytes I don’t know about liches but it probably works on them too. It also works on bosses like captain vor for example and it turns out slowing enemies by 97.5 percent makes then basically not a threat and easy to kill. And it goes through walls and has no enemy cap.

    • @vivekkparashar
      @vivekkparashar Рік тому

      Can silence work on eximus as well? Thinking if subsuming it on my rhino

    • @tannerkennedy4192
      @tannerkennedy4192 Рік тому +1

      @@vivekkparashar yeah silence makes it so eximus can’t use their abilities

  • @naufahupowell8913
    @naufahupowell8913 Рік тому +1

    One of my top three, favorite tank’s. Oh and I got dude looking like “Doom-Slayer.” Pretty sick.

  • @p4rt_t1me_g0d
    @p4rt_t1me_g0d Рік тому +4

    I'm a Rhino main, but imo he needs a good passive and a good offensive attack. He doesn't have anything comparable to other frames that are OP nukes.
    The Helminth system somewhat helps, but it doesn't solve the problem.

    • @amolistic_
      @amolistic_ Рік тому +1

      thermal sunder rhino. Try it. Go to ESO. Wave 14+ no issue.

  • @Ben_R4mZ
    @Ben_R4mZ 5 місяців тому

    Looks like weve got a Rammus on our hands boys. Seeing Dante's ability reveal gave me flashbacks to when Aphelios was introduced to League.
    Also a side note: I tried replacing Iron Shrapnel for an Index run, and immediately regretted it as I had no way of reliably refreshing my Iron Skin from 400 or less with a group of enemies available for Charge.
    Not the biggest deal with the shield-gating mechanic, but it still felt clunky.

  • @MarkArandjus
    @MarkArandjus Рік тому

    That's right baby. No rework. Came out strong from the jump 💪
    As an early closed beta player, my Rhino prime is the jewel of my collection ever since I first crafted him

  • @-Noro-
    @-Noro- Рік тому +5

    Was about to go to bed... but I'll watch this first.

  • @bappojujubes981
    @bappojujubes981 Рік тому +1

    Cool channel! Just got into Warframe ever since I got to use a Nintendo switch this year, so I know who I'll be grinding for!

    • @efemji
      @efemji Рік тому +1

      get rhino for sure my guy
      and then get nova

  • @dragonwren1893
    @dragonwren1893 Рік тому

    I like to imagine every rhino main just has the stomp em in the nuts song going on repeat in there head

  • @danielboll52
    @danielboll52 Рік тому +4

    As my main since day one, I like him for the fact he isn’t overly eccentric or wild. He’s hard to kill. He’s relatively fast. And he can bodyslam through more targets.

  • @LegendStormcrow
    @LegendStormcrow Рік тому +1

    I was gifted a Rhino Prime years ago. I still main him. My Boltor Prime was my main primary for a long time, and has a ton of forma in both. When I came back and found out that Boltor Prime sucks I was pretty sad. He's still great for Index.
    His only weakness is in Parkour 1.0 he couldn't run.

  • @Slayer_OfLight
    @Slayer_OfLight Рік тому +4

    Rhino is an inamovible force in Warframe's meta.

  • @TheDegenerateOne
    @TheDegenerateOne Рік тому +5

    Next up -"Hydroid is unfixable"

  • @ChaosPootato
    @ChaosPootato Рік тому

    I love my Rhino. I learned a lot of stuff concerning Iron Skin, thanks !

  • @eliaspanayi3465
    @eliaspanayi3465 Місяць тому +2

    Rhino is the toyota hilux of warframes. Reliable, competent, simple.

  • @LoskiBroski9352
    @LoskiBroski9352 Рік тому

    Power in simplicity.
    Consistency in ease.

  • @LegendStormcrow
    @LegendStormcrow Рік тому +1

    I have found one time roar isn't wanted. When your going for a consecutive headshot challenge. For instance, make sure no one is trying to rank up their incarnon's headshot challenge before roaring down an angel.

  • @bliantfive
    @bliantfive 3 місяці тому

    I haven't played him for so long, but rhino is still my most played frame.

  • @dietrichborkstein2918
    @dietrichborkstein2918 9 місяців тому

    You have a lot of different warframes as lockpicks, stetoscopes, keys, electronic locks to open what you need. And Rhino is a sledgehammer.

  • @Yurrrrr
    @Yurrrrr Рік тому +4

    Are you ever going to make these type of videos for weapons in wf after the warframes?

    • @NovaUmbral
      @NovaUmbral  Рік тому +14

      Oh weapons are already in the works, I have a few that will be out sometime end of month/early next month!

  • @Eaglefield_
    @Eaglefield_ Рік тому +1

    The rule of rhino seems to be "Rhino does not care", Not enough damage? not a problem. Survivability? not a problem. Too many enemies? No such thing. Weak abilities? Not the case. Overpowered abilities? None break the meta.
    Basically. Rhino keeps saying no to questions that critizise it, and it seems to just work at this point.

  • @FlintGiven
    @FlintGiven Рік тому +1

    Relevant is obviously opinion and even being my most played frame he kind of isnt that relevant since the helminth system was added but then u can argue he is at low level and relevant since u get roar for him being consumed. He is definitely less relevant than ever b4.

  • @NC54
    @NC54 8 місяців тому

    First frame I got, and first prime I farmed. used him to do all my content for like the first half a year.

  • @davidsaguil1673
    @davidsaguil1673 Рік тому

    Guilty of having rhino prime as my first prime. My main for about six months.

  • @maxhocks2006
    @maxhocks2006 Рік тому +2

    Rhino is the classic 8 out of 10. Other frames may be better, but rhino is never bad. And that’s keep hi, around for a decade. There’s almost no activity that’s rhinos bad in.

  • @Fallout_Survivor
    @Fallout_Survivor Рік тому +1

    once i saw rhino a few years ago when killing the jackal it was basically love at first side, badass appearence that made other warframes look small, respectable croud control and mobility with his 1, the best defence in game with his 2 IMO, a badass damage buff with his 3 that dosent ask you to do any specific bs just press a button and have fun, and the STAR PLATINUM ZA WARUDO! with his 4, his passive is kinda meh not gonna lie, but words cant express how much i love this character the moment i first started played as him i knew he would be my main, never regreted my descision and never will do

  • @TechPriest.
    @TechPriest. Рік тому +3

    As a new player who wanted nothing but a rhino before even learning about him. This is really good to hear

  • @oysteivi
    @oysteivi Рік тому +1

    This video makes me want to dust off my Rhino. I kinda left him behind as feeling like a noob frame because he was the first frame I farmed.

  • @flat_chumblo368
    @flat_chumblo368 Рік тому +1

    hey dont dog on rhinos passive, me n my buddies figured out if you jump up real high and activate the pendulum narta emote, you can smash and dance at the same time funniest shit weve ever seen :D

  • @ACFoxeye
    @ACFoxeye Рік тому

    The addition of Archon Shards just made him even sturdier. Tauforged or not, stick a bunch of Azure Shards into his back and watch Iron Skin reach horrifyingly large numbers for so much less work.

  • @TheRealCakekey
    @TheRealCakekey Рік тому +2

    Rhino's only real issues at this point are all minor, QoL pains. Being unable to naturally recast Iron Skin forces players to either waste a mod slot or just find a ledge to jump off of when they want to refresh it. Refusing to implement recasting doesn't do anything to lessen abuse, it just leads to awkward workarounds that detract from the game's fun factor.

  • @thskater1
    @thskater1 2 місяці тому

    Unpopular opinion Rhino is not a Tank. He is a supporter. He has only one single ability ability for tanking or rather survivability. The rest of his kit focuses on destroying his enemies while CC'ing them with his 4 and ragdolling enemies with his 1 while boosting everyones damage. And his history proves this bc even tho yes he is awesome for solo he was meta bc people used him in team combs to buff the damage/abilities of the rest of the team
    Love that boi alot tho. Great nostalgia

  • @miloszivkovic6256
    @miloszivkovic6256 Рік тому +1

    Rhino is warframe on easy mode, people often say that you don't learn how to play warframe if you play Rhino. Main weakness of Rhino is hist greatest asset, Iron Skin doesn't proc on damage arcanes which makes some of thenm (Arcane Avenger) useless on Rhino

    • @Fiendir
      @Fiendir Рік тому +1

      The on damage procs are easily circumvented by the combat discipline aura thou. Hell, Rhino is probably he safest frame to use that start on.

  • @richardomilos8686
    @richardomilos8686 5 місяців тому +1

    Yeah rhino will never not be good. His kit is so foundational that everything new and old will benefit him.

  • @nilochthedefiled
    @nilochthedefiled Рік тому

    Lol, the entire first two minutes is every college student writing an essay to fill out the 1000 word requirement

  • @Kjetilstorm
    @Kjetilstorm 25 днів тому

    I remember when I played Rhino 10 years ago, then I got good and realized you could just move out of the way of the damage and played something else that was actually useful and not slow.

  • @aspec1821
    @aspec1821 5 місяців тому

    I like that Rhino was the first of primes for many, which somehow includes me. My brother gave me him extremely early and before I knew what I was doing at all. This was back when Wukong prime came out. Anyone knows when that was?

  • @vaniellys
    @vaniellys Рік тому +1

    Rhino in lore: doesn't move an inch
    Rhino in game: doesn't move an inch
    Rhino in the meta: doesn't move an inch

  • @thecluelessoutdoorsman916
    @thecluelessoutdoorsman916 Рік тому

    I haven’t seen a rhino in game unless it was a specter in so many years.

  • @gilthunder_fr3218
    @gilthunder_fr3218 Рік тому +2

    Rhino main !!! Assemble !!! 🗿

  • @Drew_Thompson
    @Drew_Thompson Рік тому +1

    It's not that Rhino is a well built frame, it's that his abilities no matter how meh, appeal to the kind of people that aren't as easily screwed over by meta changes. safe frame for intuitive players.

  • @cory6266
    @cory6266 7 місяців тому

    With the new Reinforcing Stomp Rhino is the top tank again.

  • @TheMrCtoer
    @TheMrCtoer Рік тому

    I once got an arbitration where Rhino had some stupid ass buffs, I had obtained Reinforcing Stomp recently, I think I was the only one that didn't die because Iron Skin started with stupid high hp, enemies were pretty much aggroing only me and Reinforcing Stomp gave me like half of my iron skin hp back due to all of the enemies that were just bullet sponges.

  • @MythicqI
    @MythicqI Рік тому +1

    acutally since just got buffed recently because they made his reinforcing stomp augment scale. you can now rhino to absorb ironskin then stomp for cc and to heal ironskin, i literally went to level cap with no helminth and i didint die once, it scaled so well after they buffed his augment and now you dont even need to build for armor and so much strength, just get efficency range and the augments boom ez lvl cap

  • @anarchy6417
    @anarchy6417 Рік тому +2

    As a rhino main approve of this video 👍

  • @beej4392
    @beej4392 10 місяців тому +1

    Some changes I’d like to see in Rhino. Change his passive, maybe something like is Iron Skin takes reduced damage so it doesn’t get melted in high end steel path. (Maybe that’ll be too OP) Also you should be able to recast Iron Skin without the augment. His Stomp needs the biggest rework imo. I think it’d be cool if they make it so his stomp strips armor that’d be nice.

  • @RBRSC
    @RBRSC Рік тому +1

    Kind of glossed over Disruptions (which have become the go-to relic farms).
    Pros : Rhino's stomp works on Demolysts..... weirdly. It doesn't lift or ragdoll them or even stop them, but their AI seems to kind of break for the duration (this also happens to a few other things that are meant to be mini or even major bosses)
    Cons : Demolysts can be very dangerous to Rhino. They emit those nullifying pulses and suddenly Rhino's Roarless and Iron SKin less in the middle of the highest enemy density in the game. He can keep his distance but that can also be tricky on some tilesets, and if he does get caught by that very quick and hard to notice pulse, there's not a big luxury of tiime to get his proverbial pants back on. The argument could be made that this affects all Warframe kits, but very few others tend to be so completely infested for BOTH survivabilitty and damage in maintaining buffs 100% uptime.

  • @Ripperonis
    @Ripperonis Рік тому +1

    Are you going to do one for Yareli? Really want to hear your thoughts.

  • @cdgonepotatoes4219
    @cdgonepotatoes4219 Рік тому +1

    I remember back when raids were still a thing, Rhino was very useful for his stomp just cutting the sources of incoming damage and was mostly built for it. The high range for a stomp-focused build also allowed him to provide a boost in damage to the entire squad of 8 which was of course always nice, then his iron skin would prevent him getting thrown off the platforms in the first phase.
    Rhino has started suffering after Steel Path, as power creep increased and armour strip became the more prevalent strategy over just plain buffing damage. He's still good but for steel path and archon hunts he's now more reliant on weapon builds than himself, which the same could be said with many other frames.

  • @dragonfire2246
    @dragonfire2246 8 місяців тому

    See, I don't care much about the meta side of things, but Rhino is a nice frame. Now, I've replaced my tank role with Zephyr due to her duration based bullet negation, but Rhino was my first tanky frame and will always carry a special place in my arsenal.

  • @Viral_infinite
    @Viral_infinite Рік тому +1

    babe wake up new NovaUmbral video just dropped

  • @coldfries8976
    @coldfries8976 Рік тому +1

    Holysht..
    This gotta be my favorite video of yours!
    All the clips of Rhino at the beginning years of Warframe..
    He was always my first choice on every account!

  • @june9914
    @june9914 Рік тому +1

    I see rhino and loki as 2 sides of the same coin. Neither have meaningfully changed an iota since their creation yet at their core they're 4 utility moves. Rhino's 4 utility moves however are always useful in some capcity while loki is much more beholden two the meta shifts

  • @cmcomost5657
    @cmcomost5657 Рік тому +1

    I used to use rhino alot and loved him i just despise his augments they all boost his kit and reward actually doing something with his abilitys de has always pissed me off with augments all there abilitys that have augments feel half done and are patched by the augments.

  • @ferro9926
    @ferro9926 Рік тому +3

    One thing you forgot to mention is how stomp still slows overguard
    And why would you even remove it from him?? It's straight up an amazing ability that take a huge aoe and just gives a middle finger to all enenies inside it
    Lastly, i'd consider rhino as more of a effect frame as he applies buffs to himself and debuffs to enemies
    1-ragdoll+knockback [armor buff
    2-buffs himself with ignoring x damage (only tank ability)
    3-buffs your and ally damage [and debuffs enemies]
    4-slow everything down in a monstrous radius, while also forcing knockdown [iron skin heal too]

  • @TheOne-ud8rm
    @TheOne-ud8rm Рік тому

    It’s funny how the sentient Warframes (Revenant and Caliban) have each taken something from Rhino and put their twist on it

  • @felix_patriot
    @felix_patriot Рік тому

    Its probably not even right to call him a tank anymore. Many frames tank way safer and easier than him. He is more like a tanky buffer. The thing that makes him superb is he has a monopoly in buffing ability damage. There's a Volt nuking in your party? Max strength roar gives them 300% more damage. Now there is the equivalent off 4 Volts in your party. No other damage buffs affect abilities.

  • @thusty
    @thusty Рік тому +1

    Rhino is the gigachad of Warframe 🗿

  • @techknight3753
    @techknight3753 Рік тому +1

    Rhino's biggest strength is that he simply doesn't care about anything (except nulifiers, but that's what his guns are for)

  • @ra6765
    @ra6765 Рік тому +1

    Rhino wouldve been still relevant had Revenant not existed and helminth wasnt a thing

    • @amolistic_
      @amolistic_ Рік тому +1

      You are so wrong. Helminth basically become his best friend. 37 subsume choices for you to cherry pick, revenant? 6.
      How is this comparable? Subsumes make him a top nuker, subsumes give him so many choices to become a monster in basically any category.
      Of course, you guys doing the iron skin setup. No wonder he is mid in your guys' hand.

  • @DarkSaitama
    @DarkSaitama Місяць тому

    Rhino is good at one thing and one thing only but he's the best at it, I came back after not playing for 5 years and my rhino carried me like 5 years ago no problem and when ever in doubt Rhino is the way.

  • @chillhour6155
    @chillhour6155 Місяць тому

    Consistently still the most valued frame in trade

  • @phage5342
    @phage5342 Рік тому +1

    Haven't used him in 7 years, he's still my #1 used Warframe, must have been the solo farming.

  • @tonyoliver2684
    @tonyoliver2684 Рік тому +1

    Now what about a Nezha video? Rhino's devourer... like, Nezha does everything Rhino does, but (arguably) better and cheaper, lmao. And can also use Roar to have quadratic scaling dmg boost (like roar * chakram dmg vulnerability).
    But nah, I'm asking just as a joke, u have already posted about the ideas fpr next videps iirc. But it is a critique I have that u mentioned Revenant a couple times while never mentioning Nezha, who IS Rhino 2.0.
    Sure, DR is not better than dmg immunity, but only considering u go to levels in the thousands I guess, also DR is quite cheaper to build when comparing with Rhino's dmg invulnerability, as that would kinda require one or two augments + helminth skill + an arcane just to be really safe (at high level content I mean).

    • @amolistic_
      @amolistic_ Рік тому

      Iron skin is in fact his 2nd weakest ability. Imagine has to invest in this ability.
      there is a tech called iron skin absorb rolling guard tech with rhino stomp, level cap? Ezpz.
      You are playing him wrong. That is why. You didn't even maximize his potential, you wasted all of it. If you play rhino correctly, not only he has one of the most disgusting dmg buffing in game (nourish + roar), you survive the 2nd best in the tank category, and your cc is so turbo broken that you make every cc frame or people who has cc cry in a corner, you play in a way that makes him so weak and mediocre that is what 90% of rhinos do now, potential massively underutilized.
      Or if you want nuke, thermal sunder rhino exists. Wave 14 ESO? too ez, you just become top nukers by existing as a "tank"
      So so so much potential, many didn't utilize. See his skin glowing gold, immediately think that is his core ability.

    • @tonyoliver2684
      @tonyoliver2684 Рік тому

      @@amolistic_ never touching such a shitty frame as Rhino again, noted, thanks buddy! ^^

    • @amolistic_
      @amolistic_ Рік тому

      @@tonyoliver2684 imagine being this delusional. You don't even provide counterpoints and just straight up say shet. Wow, what an exceptional human being.

    • @tonyoliver2684
      @tonyoliver2684 Рік тому

      @@amolistic_ lmfao

  • @SirSquash
    @SirSquash Рік тому

    tank isnt all he does. guess what hes a MASSIVE party dps buff, AOE and single target crowd control. its got it all.

  • @kokeshiken
    @kokeshiken 7 днів тому

    just got back into warframe after being gone well before the open world were a thing,i think i left in 2017. i am back on rhino prime and i forgot how fun he is, currently using him as a melee with hate so far.

  • @spherexxx44
    @spherexxx44 28 днів тому

    Rhino, my first farmed frame, my 1st 1M credit in Index, my first tank/DPS, years and years ago, even now in end game his essence in Roar is always with me, as an ability is one of my most used subsumed ability, he's always will be loved.

  • @Kozmokast
    @Kozmokast Місяць тому

    Rhino was my first built frame back when Loki was a starter, as well as my first prime. I even got insults slung at me for being a rhino main back when I argued with people about DE's balance changes and bad design choices. While I tend to play more damage-oriented frames these days, whenever I go back to Rhino it just feels right.
    I still feel vindicated that DE added the sniper beam and charge up mechanic to the grineer ballista enemies, because it didn't feel good dropping into a sortie on earth, walking up the entrance stairs, and instantly being downed by a sniper you couldn't see at all through iron skin. I was berated and harassed by the community for at least a week for pointing out how terrible that design was. Took them until sometime in 2016 to add that mechanic, and I'm still thankful for it.