Is Olivia Rodrigo Good?

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  • Опубліковано 12 сер 2023
  • I don't usually talk about pop music on here, because as we all know, none of us particularly like it. However Olivia Rodrigo is currently one of the biggest pop stars in the world right now and she seems to be drawing a lot of influence from rock and indie bands. What does this mean? Are the masses actually craving guitars and riffs? Is she the gateway music to draw more people into the light? What do you think?
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  • @petersmith2112
    @petersmith2112 8 місяців тому +607

    As Mark and Lard always said "when you're older every song can sound like a something you've heard before. But that doesn't mean it's not great"

    • @jamesfurfaro4950
      @jamesfurfaro4950 8 місяців тому +4

      I agree with the last line. But there are definitely some songs that give me a feeling I’ve never felt before. Runaway by Kanye. Family Tree by Ethel Cain. Posing For Cars by Japanese Breakfast. Dust by Frank Ocean. I’m really not that old though, only 25, and maybe there are songs that already exist like them.

    • @PKFlex
      @PKFlex 8 місяців тому

      Is it worth owt? @@googlemoderatorteam3995

    • @muzikkification
      @muzikkification 8 місяців тому +3

      It makes sense. Most forms of art are less original now because so much has already been done

    • @mrstaggerlee1975
      @mrstaggerlee1975 8 місяців тому

      Cobblers

    • @peterpringle01
      @peterpringle01 7 місяців тому

      Mushunt GrrrrrrrrrrrrumBALLLL!!!!

  • @megaascension2748
    @megaascension2748 8 місяців тому +94

    I really love the humor in this song- like the lines "And I told my friends I was asleep/But I never said where or in whose sheets". It reminds me of Wet Leg as well.

    • @j-brain
      @j-brain 8 місяців тому +6

      it's so wet leg it would win a blindfold taste test for which leg is more wet

    • @All-ze9cl
      @All-ze9cl 8 місяців тому

      i LOVE wet leg

  • @michaelsharkey4255
    @michaelsharkey4255 8 місяців тому +113

    I really like how she creates the song structures. It’s very unique and combines indie and alt rock together. She’s definitely got talent.

  • @giorgia.m
    @giorgia.m 8 місяців тому +73

    I don’t think Deja Vu sounds anything like Cruel Summer despite having a shouty bridge which isn’t musically quantifiable really. She gave credits to quash the issues surrounding it but I don’t think it would have held up if it went to “court” or something, on further analysis.

    • @msvolleyball321
      @msvolleyball321 8 місяців тому +28

      Agreed. I think she could have easily won in court but her team probably didn't want her to be stuck in a court case so early in her career. I really think it was a bunch of people that took advantage of an extremely young naive teenage musician at the time. Which sucks. Hopefully she gets better lawyers

    • @eclipsewaves
      @eclipsewaves 8 місяців тому +7

      Olivia did credit Taylor's music for inspiring her early released music. It's so easy to see Deja Vu is incredibly inspired by Cruel Summer, and I think she even talked about it herself. She used to talk alot about Taylor Swift in the past, but due to the controversies saying she is copying Tay's music and people literally started calling her the "wannabe Taylor Swift", she just dropped everything about her ( atleast in public domain ), and start exploring more music genres that Taylor doesn't really touch so people can actually stop criticizing her. I can't think of one Taylor song that sounds like an early 2000's angsty song ( because like duh, everyone knows she writes exceptional lyrics even when she first started, and she started out as a country, not a pop singer or whatnot ) except maybe Haunted, but that's probably because the overall vibes, music and instrument gives off massive Avril Lavigne vibes.

    • @interstate1049
      @interstate1049 8 місяців тому +2

      I think a few tracks on Speak now have an emo-rock vibe. As you, say, 'Haunted' is just Evernescence, but Innocent and Better than Revenge lean that way too. Thankfully she got over her imitation phase quickly@@eclipsewaves

    • @giorgia.m
      @giorgia.m 8 місяців тому +7

      @@eclipsewaves Yeah giving credit in conversation in a discussion by saying I’m so inspired by Taylor Swift or this song is inspired by Cruel Summer is different than actually giving writing credits that give Taylor Swift money. A lot of people say songs are inspired by other songs without having to credit them. Taylor didn’t deserve the writing credits because she didn’t write the song and the songs don’t sound similar enough. I’d say better than revenge was heavily inspired by Misery Business and gives a 2000s angsty vibe but at the time, it wasn’t as popular to criticise artists for inspiration. Regardless, I hope Olivia can manage to establish her own name without people thinking she isn’t a real artist.

    • @eclipsewaves
      @eclipsewaves 8 місяців тому +1

      @@interstate1049 Good point but I think Speak Now is more of a pop country album, if that makes sense. A suitable comparison would be her next album, Red. So tracks like Haunted or Innocent gets overshadowed by songs like Dear John or Enchanted. Though now that you said it, Innocent, Haunted and Better than Revenge does give off massive Evanescence vibes.

  • @ginazeuli4649
    @ginazeuli4649 7 місяців тому +30

    I am a grandma and I love Olivia! Her first album was wonderful. My 25 year old daughters don’t like her but I think her music is so much fun!

  • @kevlomax5925
    @kevlomax5925 8 місяців тому +108

    My teenage daughters introduced me to Olivia Rodrigo's music. I really loved the song 'Driver's License' from the first album. I watched her do a Tiny Desk Concert and was really impressed by how she seemed to be so immersed in her own performance leaving nothing on the table. I listened to the new track yesterday with my daughters and I too thought of Icky Thump immediately, telling them excitedly about it and also what a stylophone is. I might let them drag me along to a gig 😉

    • @xtinaroma
      @xtinaroma 8 місяців тому +3

      I don't have kids but I also discovered Olivia Rodrigo via her Tiny Desk concert performance and was pleasantly impressed. I had heard her name dozens of time and I thought it was another teenage "artist" out of Disney channel, but that really changed my mind and I now consider myself a fan!

    • @dancingdaze
      @dancingdaze 7 місяців тому

      She's touring next year and in some shows the Breeders are opening for her. Yes I know they have been around longer! But you and your kids can enjoy both 😊

  • @dmccoyny
    @dmccoyny 8 місяців тому +290

    As a 44yo w/ a 10yo daughter, I can tell you that Olivia Rodrigo is big in our house. She's one of the popstars that I truly don't mind hearing...even if it is more often than I mind. She's a real talent and uses interesting arrangements and vocals. Yes, it's all compressed to hell, but isn't everything these days (unfortunately)?

    • @fudbob5889
      @fudbob5889 8 місяців тому +6

      I’m 77 with a 4 year old daughter and I totally agree

    • @chriss2412
      @chriss2412 8 місяців тому +9

      Check out her “Tiny Desk Concert” performance… it’s somewhat acoustic (instruments still plugged in) but less pop/studio mixed after effects. It’s very musical and quite impressive; you’re going to love it!

    • @KYLEJT
      @KYLEJT 8 місяців тому

      @@chriss2412 ok

    • @angiepanaexx
      @angiepanaexx 8 місяців тому

      Not everything, check out REN. (From the UK) "Hi Ren" to start with.😊
      But I do get your point in general.
      Olivia is very talented though.

    • @allllll5609
      @allllll5609 7 місяців тому

      You're such a pick me.

  • @apollion888
    @apollion888 7 місяців тому +11

    Vampire is the first pop song this 59 year old male has liked in years, she is a gift

  • @erinmoriarity4775
    @erinmoriarity4775 8 місяців тому +121

    That opening guitar is reminding me of the Beatles' Lady Madonna!
    And, like you, when I first heard this song yesterday (my 18 year old nephew played it for me and asked me what I thought of it) the thing that struck me the most was that distinctly "dissonant" element - and very forward metal sound - being injected into what is clearly an upbeat pop song. Very cool.

    • @le_th_
      @le_th_ 8 місяців тому +7

      I wouldn't have made that connection had you not mentioned it here, but now that you have, I can hear it.

    • @hightensionlabs
      @hightensionlabs 8 місяців тому +2

      See I went with the Peter Gunn Theme. All good stuff though

    • @BikepackingAdventures
      @BikepackingAdventures 8 місяців тому +8

      I hear it, it also reminded me of Oh Blah De Oh Blah Da Life Goes On.

    • @lornakarimjee
      @lornakarimjee 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@BikepackingAdventuresyes I got Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da too 👍

    • @JerGol
      @JerGol 8 місяців тому +3

      The Beatles track was my immediate first thought.

  • @roberttaylor2058
    @roberttaylor2058 8 місяців тому +5

    I guessed it was Olivia Rodriguez from the vid title - she's on the radio a few times a day atm with 'vampire'. its brilliant

  • @SeanDring
    @SeanDring 8 місяців тому +126

    I like her music. I'm not even close to the target audience and TBH she made me kind of question my musical "snobbery". There's a lot of talented pop artists out there and it's easy to lob bombs over originality and influences. She writes good songs with devices that keep my toes tapping. The fact that I've been on this planet for 54 years means I've listened to a lot of music and Olivia Rodrigo if anything has bought me back to enjoy the current crop of pop singers. Like you say, we're not the target audience, but talented artists shine in whatever genre you discover them in, and a renowned artist can shine across many genres. I think she has the chops to do that. Now time for a bit of Penguin Cafe Orchestra...

  • @JimboSRP
    @JimboSRP 8 місяців тому +58

    That riff reminds me of the first part of the baseline to the Beatles' Lady Madonna. Her music sounds pretty good to me - I'm about 40 years too late for the lyrics to mean anything profound, but I guess that's just how things go as you age. Now if she wrote a song about negotiating finance on a new car lease, I'd be on board.

    • @Laynestaley455
      @Laynestaley455 8 місяців тому +1

      Ha ha love your comment never should close your mind personally how I see it that's when you get old I like last dinner party even if I really don't relate too it all.

    • @JimboSRP
      @JimboSRP 8 місяців тому +1

      @Laynestaley455 definitely agree. I love and listen to all sorts of music, but I'm in my 50s now and some lyrics just don't relate anymore. Doesn't mean it's not a cool song, or that I don't respect the talent and skill though.

    • @staszewaM
      @staszewaM 8 місяців тому

      @@JimboSRP Having heard it for the first time, I immediately thought 'sounds like something Weezer would put out', but after hearing the riff played by Justin on the acoustic, it reminded me of 'Pretty Woman' by Roy Orbison :)

  • @JoshBruin77
    @JoshBruin77 7 місяців тому +10

    I'm 38, and I really dig Olivia Rodrigo's work. She is a truly talented little lady, and I actually go out of my way to listen to her stuff once in awhile. She's one of the few pop artists that I actually like. I'm primarily a 1970s-2000's rock guy.

  • @Jack2729o
    @Jack2729o 8 місяців тому +11

    I don’t know I like Billie Eilish music more because it’s something original and fresh. So many genres that jazzy 20-60s Julie london vocals Etc something more interesting for my taste! But I like Olivia too, but for me millennial , who grew up in the rock era of the 80/90s what Olivia is doing is nothing new but I still like it because it reminds me of that time

  • @redamaher3400
    @redamaher3400 8 місяців тому +29

    Her parents are Gen Xers so she grew up listening to Pixies, Afghan Whigs etc. So I consider her stuff laying that over the contemporary indie and pop influences. Been saying for a while she’s the only of the super mainstream pop-pop artists worth the time of day

  • @shammerHammer
    @shammerHammer 8 місяців тому +58

    Wtf I have been saying for years that I've been missing a guitar solo in mainstream music. Good for her to bring that back. Super excited about that...

  • @eily_b
    @eily_b 8 місяців тому +3

    Congratulations to 450.000 subscribers! I remember it being a few thousand only a year ago! 500.000 are on their way! 🥳

  • @fredfred2363
    @fredfred2363 8 місяців тому +1

    "I like it because I'm not supposed to...". Such a rebel 👍🏻🇬🇧

  • @KeepCalmAndTravelOn
    @KeepCalmAndTravelOn 8 місяців тому +89

    My 10 year old daughter and I found our musical common ground in Olivia Rodrigo.

    • @X3MAntics
      @X3MAntics 8 місяців тому +3

      That's so sweet really.

  • @Hardiarm
    @Hardiarm 8 місяців тому +12

    I have to say I am always impressed by the breadth of your musical references Justin. Not that I would expect anything less, but when you mentioned Fatima Mansions that was pushing the envelope again man.

  • @thebluestgiraffe7160
    @thebluestgiraffe7160 8 місяців тому +22

    I’m definitely hearing other eras threading through this-great if she cracks the pop door open to more variety. Here’s hoping!

  • @Briandnlo4
    @Briandnlo4 8 місяців тому +2

    “Grid Rock” is an highly useful addition to the nomenclature.

  • @stiksandstones
    @stiksandstones 8 місяців тому +20

    Not the OR demographic either (52m) but, her music doesn't annoy me, I dont hit next when she comes on a spotify playlist. My daughter (17) is a big fan, her music makes her happy-so all I give a shit about. I find it odd the critics over analyzing things or comparing, why? if something is enjoyable to you or others, let it go?

  • @afterforever2765
    @afterforever2765 8 місяців тому +29

    There are lots of good hooks on that first record. Sure, a few of those songs are derivative but there is no denying her skills.

  • @SSRT_JubyDuby8742
    @SSRT_JubyDuby8742 8 місяців тому +4

    The lick is, among other things, 'and she was' by Talking Heads
    Like deployed 👍

  • @richardlewis1639
    @richardlewis1639 8 місяців тому +6

    That riff is basically ‘In the Midnight Hour’ by Wilson Pickett, from the 60s. Roxy Music did a cover, in the 80s.

    • @beans100
      @beans100 8 місяців тому

      Good catch !

  • @stustustu
    @stustustu 8 місяців тому +14

    Cracking tune! The bassline reminded me of 'Warning' by Greenday and 'Hash Pipe' by Weezer - but surely the vocal layers over a descending progression (the prechorus when she's lying in the truck) is a nod to the master of guitar pop production - Jeff Lynne (of ELO/Travelling Wilburys/George Harrison)?

  • @richard6704
    @richard6704 6 місяців тому +2

    I’m 54, I was introduced to her music by a younger friend in their 20’s, Olivia is pretty talented, she has a great voice, can play an instrument or two, and writes good songs, what’s not to like!

  • @scottiequality1981
    @scottiequality1981 8 місяців тому +19

    I feel like she just has hip Gen X parents and maybe got a good dose of things like Romeo Void, Suburban Lawns, Adam Ant, Missing Persons, Elvis Costello..there’s a LOT of 80s vibes in there. Not my demographic either, as a 42 year old man, but I kinda dig what she’s doing. It’s got an old school punk snottiness at times. It’s youthful and playful. Could be worse🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @cherryllcooper679
      @cherryllcooper679 8 місяців тому +1

      Romeo Void was the first thing that came to mind!

    • @willjam465
      @willjam465 8 місяців тому

      @@cherryllcooper679thought the same thing.

  • @fernandooliveiralino
    @fernandooliveiralino 7 місяців тому

    Subscribed to the channel! I had a pal in high school that loved The Darkness so much. Also, I used to sing your falsettos in college and folks would be like: "Wow, you can do that?".
    Great video, by the way.

  • @olliewest7124
    @olliewest7124 8 місяців тому +4

    I would love for you to review any song by Laufey, a very interesting artist that is breaking into the pop world with a unique sound that's a throwback to the old school! Love the content Justin

    • @bargainhuntermama
      @bargainhuntermama 8 місяців тому

      My 12 year old just introduced me to her music today. She said I think you're going to love this mommy. I was pleasantly surprised.

  • @Alan_Duval
    @Alan_Duval 8 місяців тому +1

    The point you make at 3:45 reminded me of a quote from Axl Rose, where he was talking about writing music, and he said something like, 'I'll write something, and think it sounds really good and say to myself, 'Yeah'! That's better than Zeppelin.' Then, I'll be in my car listening to the radio and go, 'Oh! It IS Zeppelin.'
    It's funny, the intro reminds me of something, but I can't quite put my finger on what (ironic). Weirdly, it sounded even more like the thing I was thinking of when Justin played it on the guitar without the rest of the musical ornamentation. It'll come to me.
    On a related note, story time:
    I watched the NetFlix series Painkiller (I can't recommend it enough, really good), and a song played in one episode, and I said to my partner, 'That voice is familiar.' A few seconds later, I said, 'I reckon that's Iggy Pop... but the backing vocals are by the B-52s, so that's weird.' I was well-chuffed as the song was 'Candy', by Iggy Pop, with Kate Pierson from the B-52s - not one I'd ever heard before :D

  • @lifetripping
    @lifetripping 8 місяців тому +8

    …also hearing a bit of Cocteau Twins and The Breeders in her vibe. Listening to music is considered practicing in the classical world and it’s part of a musician’s daily ‘practice’. It’s good to hear you encouraging everyone to do what all my teachers have told me thru the years. Deep listening and focused attention are some of the muscles that get strengthened. So, for me, listening to music is not a form of passive entertainment or consumption. It’s an act of work. Over the years, I’ve also noticed that kids trained on string instruments (within a classical education) are better able to concentrate and have a centered calmness to their demeanor as opposed to their non-musical peers. What instrument is your daughter learning?

  • @sheridanwands439
    @sheridanwands439 8 місяців тому +1

    Another great video,thanks Justin.

  • @swannee1975
    @swannee1975 7 місяців тому +3

    She's got talent, it's funny that I was asking myself last week "Why do I like this song? I'm 48? This isn't pop music right?" The truth is it reminds me of when I started to like the Beastie Boys when the released Check Your Head. It's not a lazy album, you can feel that a lot of work was put into it by the artist. Plus, anyone that writes their own music, can play an instrument and can carry a tune without a voice trainer should be given a chance. Like a few people have commented, the lyrics are poppy 20yr old lyrics but you can feel that the music is more evolved.

  • @axelmans9802
    @axelmans9802 8 місяців тому +7

    I feel if you like it it's supposed for you and I really like Rodigro's songs. I don't see an issue with her and her cowriter finding inspiration in bands and artists from the past. Everyone has done that and at least she has a major part in writing her songs. Not many pop acts who can say that nowadays

  • @dooley9621
    @dooley9621 8 місяців тому

    Good day to you Mr Hawkins, thanks for the video buddy have a great rest of your day.

  • @chrisspellman8545
    @chrisspellman8545 8 місяців тому +4

    42 years old here and I really like some of her music! Especially vampire✌️

  • @noneofyourbusiness4616
    @noneofyourbusiness4616 8 місяців тому +74

    Allie X, Marina Diamandis, Annie, Christine and the Queens, Dorian Electra, Girl Ray, Caroline Polachek, Yelle, Magdalena Bay, many other pop artists who aren't sh asterisk t.

    • @Terra4568
      @Terra4568 8 місяців тому +2

      Also, Zella Day ❤

    • @Alfire_Davies
      @Alfire_Davies 8 місяців тому +1

      Idk, christine and the queens suck a bit

    • @scarzgg
      @scarzgg 8 місяців тому +15

      I don’t doubt you but I think the main dif is that Olivia rodrigo is one of the most mainstream pop stars on the planet rn. In no way disrespecting the work of the artists you’ve listed, I don’t know 90% of those names. They don’t have nearly as much mainstream influence as someone like Olivia rodrigo

    • @667neighbourofthebeast
      @667neighbourofthebeast 8 місяців тому +1

      Solly Mento, Gravity 7even, Pill Poppa, Mumbai Mayhem, Liberty Gemini, Azmuss, Hunter Denari, Lil Lillian. Add them to your sh*t list.😊😂

    • @suites.74
      @suites.74 8 місяців тому

      Any men?

  • @BrendanAshton
    @BrendanAshton 8 місяців тому +7

    I loved the first album and enjoy what I have heard on the second. I enjoyed the super pop it’s for me and I’m 52

  • @raycochrane3971
    @raycochrane3971 8 місяців тому +1

    Starts with The Midnight Hour bass.

  • @jaredskintges5245
    @jaredskintges5245 8 місяців тому +4

    Definitely heard the Jack White/ The White Stripes vibes on the guitar solo, you’re right it was a lot like Icky Thump

  • @glagaz6146
    @glagaz6146 8 місяців тому

    Justin, how about a video on your favourite venues to play and why?

  • @raquelsnt
    @raquelsnt 8 місяців тому +3

    It's not for someone like me neither!
    But love to watch your videos!

    • @SuziQ.
      @SuziQ. 8 місяців тому +1

      Ditto!

  • @pasqualeminichillojr831
    @pasqualeminichillojr831 8 місяців тому +40

    I would love someone to find one song by any artist that doesn't have a similar beat or melody to another song. All the music out there has shared sounds of earlier music. The problem is Olivia's music is very popular, so people are looking to make money off of her.

    • @ClearSky81-mb5ph
      @ClearSky81-mb5ph 8 місяців тому +3

      This explains why Ed Sheeran is moving from Pop to country music. Ed Sheeran has been subject to many lawsuits because many of his songs became extremely popular

  • @basyngwie
    @basyngwie 8 місяців тому

    The riff is the bass line from Wilson Pickett's In the Midnight Hour. Very cool.

  • @TheMRBOSS899
    @TheMRBOSS899 7 місяців тому

    Roy Orbison, Pretty Woman. First thing I hear ..
    Love it ❤

  • @DeniseCMS
    @DeniseCMS 8 місяців тому +1

    Sour cd is amazing! I love every single song and I’m 49.

  • @obelusyt
    @obelusyt 8 місяців тому

    it interpolates quite nicely with connection by veruca salt... brilliant.

  • @matthewgeorge7062
    @matthewgeorge7062 8 місяців тому +3

    Hi Justin, do you think your voice has got better overtime or declined? Personally, I think you have always sounded great.

  • @mirapiccolo6601
    @mirapiccolo6601 8 місяців тому

    Love your videos Justin...

  • @waranghira
    @waranghira 8 місяців тому

    Thank you for introducing me to this song. The noise solo is rad.

  • @juliehartley3652
    @juliehartley3652 8 місяців тому +2

    Yes I liked it too and all those songs it sounded like. I could learn a lot about music couldn't I? Thank you Justin.

  • @RokDAWG1
    @RokDAWG1 8 місяців тому +2

    It reminds me of early 80’s new wave. That sound coming right off of the punk sound. Like it could have easily been a the Talking Heads, Adam Ant or something in that style.

  • @davelanciani-dimaensionx
    @davelanciani-dimaensionx 8 місяців тому +12

    It is definitely the riff from "I'm Your Venus" by Shocking Blue (1968), which was covered by Bananarama in 1986. But given a modern twist.

    • @Michael-mm3fm
      @Michael-mm3fm 8 місяців тому

      The original much better btw

    • @fromchomleystreet
      @fromchomleystreet 8 місяців тому +1

      Not really. It’s in a major key for a start, which puts it much more firmly in the territory of “midnight hour” and “Lady Madonna”. “Venus” is resolutely in a minor key.

    • @RCbeastly
      @RCbeastly 8 місяців тому

      The Banjo Song?
      @@Michael-mm3fm

  • @bazookatooth
    @bazookatooth 8 місяців тому +20

    I rate her a lot. Her glasto set a couple years ago was one of the highlights that year imo

  • @KeithOlson
    @KeithOlson 8 місяців тому

    I can remember the bit at 6:10 from when *I* was her age, though which song it came from escapes me.

  • @lucraetius
    @lucraetius 8 місяців тому

    I would love a deep dive about deep purple! Soldier of fortune is such a masterpiece that moves me everytime I hear it and I'd love your opinion on it!

  • @shayasims
    @shayasims 8 місяців тому +4

    well you’ll be glad to know olivia and her producer dan are very keen on using live instruments !

  • @rebeccaroberts4919
    @rebeccaroberts4919 7 місяців тому +2

    I'm a big Taylor Swift fan and Deja Vu sounds nothing like Cruel Summer! Massive reach there. I don't think Taylor should have taken the credit on that one!

  • @joexkid9059
    @joexkid9059 7 місяців тому +1

    I’m honestly obsessed with her atm, new album is so good!

  • @theresae6071
    @theresae6071 8 місяців тому +1

    I am going to agree with others who have mentioned Romeo
    Void, The Breeders, And She Was by The Talking Heads. I hear all three and all three are great influences to have.

  • @cwize
    @cwize 8 місяців тому +1

    I like that the underpinning bass/guitar riff is actually 1,4,5 instead of 1,3,5 - just a wee bit different and used a lot less than 1,3,5 from the ol’ rock days. I have to concur with the commenter you highlighted, that it’s “not for me” (I’m 59 but still a new music junkie) but c’mon, guitars are back! 🎉

  • @rezzonationMusic
    @rezzonationMusic 8 місяців тому

    Thx jh for new daily musical brain food... heard this once before and had thoughts of white stripes - wasnt sure why - now i know cheers

  • @Daniel_Batal
    @Daniel_Batal 7 місяців тому

    I hear Wilson Pickett's Midnight Hour in the Good 4 U verse riff, but with more of a Weezer Hash Pipe vibe.

  • @njp2k914
    @njp2k914 8 місяців тому +2

    I really enjoyed her first album!

  • @kevinkorenke3569
    @kevinkorenke3569 8 місяців тому +4

    Part of me is amused reading people pile on her misic as crap, all the while just repeating the vitriol we had to put up with in our youth. I was around for the Satanic Panic and the PMRC hearings, a lot of complaints I hear today are the same just without all the fainting couches.
    We arent the demographic any more guys and gals. The sooner you accept that the sooner you can start to listen to the music out there objectively and truly discuss it on its own merits.
    "New music is shit" is just older people unwilling to accept that they arent the center of attention any more. A lot of the pop music out there IS forgettable garbage, just like the pop music of our youth. A good portion of it is just like our pop music of the day, screaming out against the things that worried and frightened us in our youth as we were trying to figure out how to grow up as well.

  • @angiehh516
    @angiehh516 8 місяців тому +13

    I don’t know that I’d consider them fully pop, because their genre is all over the place. …but I’ve been sucked in by twenty one pilots. A lot of people judge them by a few of their commercial hits but Tyler Joseph started in his parents’ basement in Ohio and he still lives there today. His voice is unique and he writes every lyric and plays multiple instruments and produces most of their music. Best live shows I’ve ever seen. Such a musical talent. I like Olivia okay but I haven’t been fully sucked in yet.

    • @indecisive.dice.roll.325
      @indecisive.dice.roll.325 8 місяців тому +2

      I was a huge Twenty One Pilots fan back in their blurryface and trench eras. I loved how their music was all over the place genre wise, but you could ostensibly tell how much effort Tyler Joseph puts into the creative process. I think that's what also draws people like me to Olivia Rodrigo

  • @ogdenwernstom4085
    @ogdenwernstom4085 8 місяців тому

    Baseline reminds me of the guitar part in Lady Madonna. It's from a pretty obscure band, I doubt anyone will notice. Also (and probably even closer to) In the Midnight Hour.

  • @Life-Is-Random
    @Life-Is-Random 7 місяців тому +1

    Elvis Costello handled the comparison the best. Serious class act.

  • @MariaFrancesca
    @MariaFrancesca 8 місяців тому +2

    My birthday is coming up in three days and it's a muuuuch higher number than I would have liked, so... in my pre-birthday depression fog, in which there aren't enough clouds to shout at, I will refrain from saying anything about this song 🙂 I will feel better on Thursday.
    The happiness of the thumbnail sheered me up, though, love those glasses!

    • @raquelsnt
      @raquelsnt 8 місяців тому +1

      Happy next bday, mine is in two days...15th august!

    • @MariaFrancesca
      @MariaFrancesca 8 місяців тому +1

      @@raquelsnt Oh, your birthday is the day before mine? 🙂 How funny! Congratulations to you, too!!! 🙂

    • @SuziQ.
      @SuziQ. 8 місяців тому +2

      I feel your pain. I hit a scary, high number recently, and it’s too scary to say. Enjoy the days anyway, girls. We only get one per year. 🎉🥂🎂

    • @MariaFrancesca
      @MariaFrancesca 8 місяців тому +2

      @@SuziQ. Belated Happy Birthday to you! 🙂Yeah, I should really pull myself up by my boot straps, shouldn't I? 🙂
      And you can't possibly be older than I am? 🙃

  • @eweng903
    @eweng903 8 місяців тому +8

    Olivia Rodrigo's song "Bad Idea" is in the key of E Mixolydian, which gives the song a rock feel. It is a sophisticated pop rock effort. Rodrigo was a Disney teen actress, and her musical transition likely owes a lot to record producer Dan Nigro. It is probably too early to tell whether Rodrigo will significantly contribute to the pop rock genre, as she has only just stepped out of her teen actress and singer period.

    • @SuziQ.
      @SuziQ. 8 місяців тому +4

      @@creamwobbly, I have guitarist friends who have talked about Lydian, Locrian, and other musical scale terminology for decades. (It’s not all from Beato.)

    • @eweng903
      @eweng903 8 місяців тому +1

      Human brain seeks patterns in music, and because of that the musical key is critical when composing a song because it effects the mood, feel, and overall sound of the song. L.A. Woman by The Doors is in a Mixolydian scale, and if you recall that song it does have a bluesy rock sound and feel to it.@@creamwobbly

    • @christopher9152
      @christopher9152 8 місяців тому

      She's a muppet/puppet like Britney Spears and all the other Disney creations. Her "artistry" is mainly in the hands of her producers and managers. NOT an "organically" derived artist in any way, shape, or form.

    • @ClearSky81-mb5ph
      @ClearSky81-mb5ph 8 місяців тому

      @@christopher9152 Olivia is NOT with Disney Records or Hollywood Records.

    • @soaribb32
      @soaribb32 8 місяців тому

      ​@@creamwobblywho hurt you?

  • @TheErazar
    @TheErazar 8 місяців тому +1

    Sounds a bit like Wet Leg, which I discovered through your channel

  • @nickolai13
    @nickolai13 8 місяців тому +1

    The riff reminds me of Dolly Parton 9 to 5 so obviously love it!

  • @seanohalloran384
    @seanohalloran384 2 місяці тому +1

    I’m a rocker and I love it. There’s a lot of fun and personality in her music but it’s not too pop. I can envision Rodrigo becoming a serious rock artist down the line. Even The Beatles were pop in the beginning. PS I think Dave Stewarts son is the guitarist on this track. Great video!

  • @stewartmitchell8007
    @stewartmitchell8007 8 місяців тому +1

    A touch of walkie talkie man by steriogram in the riff and vocal flow too.

  • @vinskeeter
    @vinskeeter 8 місяців тому +1

    Off the subject here, but I recently discovered "Holding my Own" from Permission to Land. Magnificent! I'd say, it's a rare.....perfect rock song.

    • @chriss2412
      @chriss2412 8 місяців тому

      Good call, that song is incredible

  • @timsarai
    @timsarai 8 місяців тому +2

    I know it’s for the clicks but I hate it when people say pop artists are shit. A lot of pop artists are artists that are at the absolute pinnacle of musicianship or the most phenomenally talented singers. Genuine talent that some indie artists could only dream of. I’m a big darkness fan and of Justin FYI.

    • @dirkda2451
      @dirkda2451 8 місяців тому +2

      I’m totally with you 👍also every artist is influenced by what came before them (as they should be)not everything is plagiarism

    • @crisvelundertale2159
      @crisvelundertale2159 7 місяців тому +1

      you know that's not true, contemporary pop artists can barely play instruments, if anything they do some chords and strum the songs in the guitar, or play the chords on the piano to accompany the vocals, and that's it, it rarely goes further than that. There is little to no virtuosity and real musicianship in the pop artists themselves now, that's just a fact, people blow up and get big in the industry for other reasons and different talents that are not being at the pinnacle of musicianship, they usually just get other people to take care of it. On the top of my head i can only think of just one contemporary pop artist that I've seen doing really impressive and intricate things on the piano, that being Lady Gaga, can you think of more examples?

    • @timsarai
      @timsarai 7 місяців тому +1

      @@crisvelundertale2159 there’s a lot of bias in this response in my opinion. And you are stating things as fact when in reality it is your opinion. I don’t mean this in a mean spirited way, but I really disagree with you. It is true of a lot of manufactured pop “bands” I think. But I think most solo pop artists are phenomenal talents. A lot of the top performing vocalists are usually very talented musicians and have a deep, core understanding of musicality. People like Ariana Grande, Taylor Swift, Adele for instance. A prime example is someone like Charlie Puth. Puth puts out probably the most pop sounding pop music going at the minute and he has a phenomenal musical talent and understanding. Gaga you mention is another great example. I appreciate the fact it isn’t for everyone though and I’m not a fan of some of these pop artists myself. I just think people can be unfairly critical of pop artists

  • @NinStardust
    @NinStardust 8 місяців тому +2

    6:05 😂 how long were you stuck in that dut-dut-dah-dum duh-duh-da-dah loop? NGL it’s going to be stuck in my head all day now too! 😂😂😂

  • @MattDavey68
    @MattDavey68 7 місяців тому

    That riff reminds me of the bass on The Beatles Lady Madona!

  • @elleeme9451
    @elleeme9451 8 місяців тому

    The riff reminds me of the intro of "lessons in love" and the intro of "just what I needed".

  • @kilgoretrout2918
    @kilgoretrout2918 7 місяців тому

    Off topic a little but about songs sounding alike. You mentioned "Pump It Up" by Elvis Costello-did you ever notice how much the verses sound like the verses of "Wild Wild West" by the Escape Club?

  • @MichaelLevine
    @MichaelLevine 8 місяців тому

    Nice, I think she's got talent too. BTW, that riff is actually 145 on E and 145 on A (as opposed to 135). Which is even cooler I think!

  • @TheBeelzboss
    @TheBeelzboss 8 місяців тому

    Based on the snippets you played I'm going to look up more and see for myself.

  • @Alex_19XC
    @Alex_19XC 8 місяців тому

    Same as a few other comments on here, I'm not exactly the target audience for this but I dig it. Reminds me a little of Baby Queen, someone else who I think is excellent.

  • @stevenclubb7718
    @stevenclubb7718 8 місяців тому +5

    I loved Brutal even if it was overly familar (i knew one version from a Doctor Who episode, not the Elvis Costello original). So far, I've enjoyed both Vampire and Bad Idea Right from the new album. One of the few mainstream pop acts i enjoy, the other being Billie Eilish who often gives me Alice Cooper vibes as she slips into horror territory here and there.

  • @tracywilliamson4275
    @tracywilliamson4275 8 місяців тому

    And I just heard of this girl right now. Not that she interests me in the least, but it's interesting that I have picked up on several bands only here. Thanks for all this good stuff, Justin!🩷💖🩷
    And being 12 years your senior means I can go back even further! Can't wait to see you at The Truman in Kansas City in October.

  • @matgale1298
    @matgale1298 8 місяців тому

    The main riff reminded me a lot of Talking Head's And she was, which was probably inspired by Lady Madonna...
    I'm pretty sure even since talking heads, bands like wheatus and Weezer have used a similar riff

  • @paultaylor1812
    @paultaylor1812 8 місяців тому +1

    The little guitar/bass riff reminds of a faster Beatles - Lady Madonna

  • @murdoc6501
    @murdoc6501 8 місяців тому +1

    Someone was listening to the Eels "Beautiful Day."

  • @SuzanneO707
    @SuzanneO707 8 місяців тому

    Toni Basil, Lena Lovich, The Go Go's. They all rocked and were poppy too back in the day. Any White Stripes nod, is fine by me. Cheers.

  • @YTPartyTonight
    @YTPartyTonight 8 місяців тому

    @5:46 Yeah, that rift kind of reminds me of Oh Blah De Oh Blah Da Life Goes On, like some are saying, but I feel like I've heard literally that same riff in something else. I want to say it's from some Lou Reed or Velvet Underground song... probably something else... and now it's going to drive me crazy.

  • @tobyhumphreys6423
    @tobyhumphreys6423 8 місяців тому

    Hi Justin isnt the bum bum bum bum bum bum bass line riff from the italian job theme tune?

  • @ltlbuddha
    @ltlbuddha 8 місяців тому +4

    I don't know that I completely buy the idea that music should be segregated by age. I grew up listening to music by people who were dead long before I was born and weren't writing for children even in their time. I listened to the Beatles long before I understood the meaning behind their songs. I'm not generally into the pop written for a younger audience, because much of it deals with subjects I've matured past (well, mostly), but if a song is a banger, then it is a banger.

  • @citizen530
    @citizen530 2 місяці тому

    Love your dx7 tattoo.

  • @swymaj02
    @swymaj02 8 місяців тому +1

    Been hooked since Driver's License. And I'm a 21yo dude.

  • @JamesJones-zt2yx
    @JamesJones-zt2yx 7 місяців тому

    The riff reminds me of "Space Cowboy". Kind of neat.

  • @batmanslarynx
    @batmanslarynx 8 місяців тому +6

    I had never actually listened to her before because I just thought it was just another young girl pop star. Which I guess she is? Regardless as you put this video out, I thought I would check out something from her. Good 4 U came up (444M views on here btw, fucking ridiculous) and I thought, eh, I guess it's okay but it sounds too autotuned and stuff so I looked for a live version. There's a performance of it on SNL, I was proved wrong. The girl can really sing and she was backed by a full band, love to see it.
    Maybe I will give her a proper chance in the future, who knows.

  • @Stefarooh
    @Stefarooh 7 місяців тому +2

    I think if we are looking at the main charts Justin then yes...what gets picked up by radio is abysmal but there are artist out there doing brilliant things - Just take Jessie Ware. Not a single song from her "What's your Pleasure?" or her latest "That! Feels! Good!" was ever played on the radio and both albums are filled to the brim with intelligent, danceable, hugely enjoyable songs. I hightly suggest you give her a listen . An interview with her would even be great 😯

  • @runmickrun
    @runmickrun 8 місяців тому +2

    That riff sounds a lot like Elvis Costello's "Waiting for the End of the World" but I do like her music 🙂