I think he is talking about when the doctors prescribe medication for illness, very freely. " Try this one, come back, if it doesn't work." Then they prescribe something else. Over medicating, having to deal with side effects. Misdiagnosis, etc. The chalk outline to me, is how you feel, being over medicated. Terrible. Like the "walking dead". Hence "chalk outline " Out of it. I relate to this song and Ren's experience with autoimmune disease and misdiagnosis. The hell of living with chronic illness, pain and fatigue. I'm walking in the same shoes. I love this song, because it puts into words, what i feel and cannot voice. So thank you Ren ❤
Chinchilla says she wears long fingernails for confidence when she performs. I don’t usually like them but, for me, this makes me like her even more. Her reasoning makes them the opposite of artificial. So don’t feel freaked out!! Anyway, I really enjoy your reactions. Hope you are having a good Christmas x
Chinchilla's nails aren't for looks if you mean style. Her real name is Daisy & she's actually very shy. She says the nails help her get into the character of Chinchilla by giving her confidence & feel more powerful. There are a couple busking videos of she & Ren. Apparently she was really afraid to do it but Ren convinced her &, of course, she was great. And BTW, she isn't wearing the nails in those videos.
No need for redemption, you both are Renegades, and we support our own. So glad you guys got a chance to see this version, IMHO it better portrays the message of the song. Hope you both have a wonderful New Year!! ❤😃👍
Awesome guys. A great performance from Chinchilla is her 'Fingers' Live video...outstanding performance and them creepy nails kinda feed in to the lyrics 😁
Many thanks Judson for the beautiful piano intro - nice reminder of my favorite songs (by any musician) - I've listened since I was 14 in 1977 and over time, I have learned to appreciate so many more aspects of the music and the lyrics. And its so nice to have you play a bit of the Chalk Outlines chords as well. Well done gentlemen, really enjoy your reactions and discussions. Keep up the good work.
❤Thank you a great reaction Great Measures❤The live sounds along with the visuals make this for me a far better experience❤For me RENs attention to detail shows just how much he puts into his artistry.❤ I wish you both all the very best for 2024❤Blessed Be❤
Always nice to hear your perspectives on these. I much prefer the live version of this one, but the instrumentation on the studio version is lovely too.
Every time I watch it's like "join in on the piano!" Ha On Chinchillas nails- she's said they give her power & make her able to sing with passion without care. I've played keys (very rudimentary stuff like starlight by muse) with pretty long claws but I could never keep them short enough to play guitar at all well, just strings humming against them all the time. I absolutely see my meds as a crutch especially for the fact I go into withdrawing without them but they make it so I can get up & face the day. Between the mental illness & chronic pain I fell like I'm just walking around half dead at times.
First time I saw the video I just kept thinking “she is gonna put his eye out if she’s not careful” not sure if that comes from being a mom or an old ER nurse😂😂 enjoyed the reaction y’all! Hope you have a wonderful New Year!✌🏻🫶🏻
I get what you are saying about this version not being like a different song but for those of us who heard the live version first, the studio version is like a different inferior song because it sounds sped up and canned by comparison. It doesn’t have some of Chinchilla’s more experimental harmonies, however, which is an advantage I agree.
No need to be freaked out by the nails in this one, she's his echo. He's in the basement of a psych unit, someone practising guitar in their lunch hour left the door open to the cellars where the archives are kept.
Great reaction and perspective ive never thought of after listening to it many many times. John Farnham - you are the voice with the austrialian orchestra is amazing and id love to hear a reaction from you guys on that
I assumed they were in the basement if a mental hospital. Dead records, echos of a hundred voices then the song. Her nails also reminds her of the pisitioning of her hands and body during a performance and gives her confidence.
i really enjoyed your reaction to this one. insightful. you can see your mind clicking away & agreeing to disagree. great conversation from really great measures 😊
Love the channel lads. Not sure if it's either of your things, but would be very interesting to see Judson's reaction to Protest the Hero, especially something from Fortress with the piano interludes. Anyhow, keep up the great work!
As for the music I personally like the recorded version, but there performance in the live version has a emotional aspect that is emotionally more impactful. If that makes any sense they are both great
A more engaging performance for sure. A rare and unique talent. My only criticism is that there's one too many headstocks. And I think we may have found the first candidate for "metalhead reacts to pianist friend's suggestion."
This reaction seems perfectly timed and sandwiched... if that makes any sense. It honestly does to me, but what do I know. 3:40 Also, I would like (decided?) to believe that the two of you were deliberately being masters at gentle trolling with that silent skit there. I love it. ♥
Just to trample on your dreams, they cut the feed from the mics during the playing of songs/videos, as seen in many of their previous reactions where Judson plays around with some keys on the piano to find the right notes: you never actually hear the piano then.
I think one of the most impressive part about ren's earlier videos is that there is no "production". Just playing a guitar and him singing in the street with a cheap microphone. We are witnessing greatness
I was freaked out and honestly repulsed by the nails as well. So much that initially I couldn’t watch the video all the way through. Later my memory of the artistry got me through. The song is otherworldly beautiful; I steadfast block out the nails.
So glad youre back with a new Ren reaction..Please do Rens band, The Big Push. Esp their performance of I shot the sherif/road to zion/hip hop (its a mash up, great arrangement and entertaining)
I really like watching you guys. Maybe it would be cool if you would react to another song where Ren plays Piano like"for Joe" and the Song ist for his friend who comitted suicide.
If you like "Cortez the Killer", you should check out a cover by Grace Potter, Joe Satriani and others performed at thr 6th Annual Jammy Awards on MTV in 2006.
Chinchilla's fingernails are her Crutch. She finds they give her confidence to perform. I expect her to take Ren's eyes out, no matter how many times I see this!! She is a little behind throughout a lot of this song. Thank you. Would love to hear more, any time you want to have a Ren listen. You might enjoy "How to be Me" which they both performed, as a tribute to Ren's friend Joe.
I had a lot of trouble with those nails when I first saw this. For me they are a giant distraction and I get that is subjective.. Ive heard all the explanations, but to me they take away from my attention to the rest of her performance. Still I do like this version over the other.
Still Waiting for you guys to ask “why is the artist making this decision?, and then “does this work toward making their point or not?”, as I pointed out in your Happier Than Ever by Billie Eilish video. Y’all are missing out on so much, it seems like you aren’t intellectually or artistically curious at all. Once again, I’d encourage y’all expand beyond “I like this or don’t like this,” to “why is this artist making this choice? And how does this work or doesn’t work considering the message they are trying to communicate?” Not to be harsh, but y’all really do come across as first year art students, and that’s really sad.
We did ask those questions. In every aspect mentioned, we speculate whether or not its bolstering the thesis of the song, whatever that truly may be. The records seen in the beginning, hair fingernails, the clothing, the setting, even the fact that the very lyrical offering has a significant pause after it (etc); all of these things are considered as having some kind of correlation to the artist’s intended message. This is a fact we assume the viewer is aware of as many viewers have been with us for a time. In every conversation we have, we ask, as you so kindly point out, “why is the artist doing this?” Every one. Sometimes the conversation goes into further subtext and other times we stay on the surface. After reading your critique twice, I am beginning to wonder whether you are even watching the videos to make this obviously misguided opinion. However, thank you for that opinion and we hope you have a wonderful day.
@@judsong I agree that you did ask what are the records about? What do the white clothes mean? But if we tracked the amount of time asking those questions vs the commentary about not liking her nails, the time spent would reveal the emphasis. Part of asking “why?” is also imagining and speculating about the answers to that question. Of course you’re welcome to critique my critique of your critique, but I really do hope you continue to experiment with the furthering of your conversations and explorations of your discussions. I do agree this was an improvement above other video reactions, and applaud you for that, but I assure you that I have been watching your videos all the way through, and do see room for improvement. Take that as you like it. Thank you for considering what I’m saying, it’s clear you care. Best wishes to both of you as well.
@@judsong I really do offer these critiques in a good faith effort to help y’all create more impactful and meaningful reaction videos. Obviously you have plenty of positive responses and can enjoy them and disregard what I’m saying. I do think this might have struck a nerve because there’s possibly some degree of truth in what I’m saying. I don’t think I hold the entire truth, and you’re always able to disregard my input, but I really am coming from a place of wanting to hear the much deeper inquiry that I believe you both to be capable of for works like these. I encourage you both to continue to explore the “why this choice?” more in your reactions. Do/don’t like, and rules/break the rules commentary is worth noting, but the real meat for non-layperson reactions is in exploring the “why?”. Not just asking why, but adding insight about the possibilities of why and how the artist’s choices contribute to the outcome of the piece, and if you consider it successful in communicating their message, or unsuccessful. I don’t know why I’m so invested in your channel in particular doing a more comprehensive exploration of this, vs some other channels, except that I can tell y’all have the background that equips you to explore these things much more than a casual, untrained listener. I really do wish y’all well, and hope you can take my criticism in the spirit that it’s meant.
The performance was beautiful and amazing. I wish people would leave her alone about her nails. Sheesh. Of ALL the things to analyze, you spent more depth on your feelings about her fingernails versus the song. I fell like your reaction to this song was lukewarm at best. They were singing about a friend who committed suicide by drugs due to depression. Because (like lots of people) the person was traumatized in life and was a chalk outline. Disliked this reaction intensely.
It's useful to hear people go on and on about her in-character fingernails before, say, the passion of the performance, the wonderful harmonies etc. It's a useful.. indicator, so thank you.
They're there specifically to be noticed, and are her way of separating/distancing herself from the audience so to speak, to help her feel comfortable to perform. NOT noticing them on first viewing would actually be against what she's going for. Check out some interviews. PS: this isn't Chinchilla hate by any stretch, I think she's an incredible singer and has a unique style that makes a statement, which many TRY to pull off, but she executes very well.
You forgot to put your (sarc) after the sentence. Sounds like he was annoyed he had to do the same song twice because in his mind there was no difference. The live performance was acknowledged but it was not worth re-doing in his opinion. He didn't say it in those words but he was still saying it in his round about way. That was my take anyways. This one is leaps and bounds more impactful than the studio version, but I'm just a fan.
Hey guys, that was painful for me to listen too, not you two though, lol! Just music I don't get...JAGUAR GOD - MASTODON PLEASE, it will not bug you...
I think he is talking about when the doctors prescribe medication for illness, very freely. " Try this one, come back, if it doesn't work." Then they prescribe something else. Over medicating, having to deal with side effects. Misdiagnosis, etc. The chalk outline to me, is how you feel, being over medicated. Terrible. Like the "walking dead". Hence "chalk outline " Out of it.
I relate to this song and Ren's experience with autoimmune disease and misdiagnosis. The hell of living with chronic illness, pain and fatigue. I'm walking in the same shoes. I love this song, because it puts into words, what i feel and cannot voice. So thank you Ren ❤
Yes. Chalk outline, over medicated like a zombie. Like a living dead. 👍
Chinchilla says she wears long fingernails for confidence when she performs. I don’t usually like them but, for me, this makes me like her even more. Her reasoning makes them the opposite of artificial. So don’t feel freaked out!! Anyway, I really enjoy your reactions. Hope you are having a good Christmas x
First of all.. How is Anal a Smith?
Interesting.
Chinchilla's nails aren't for looks if you mean style. Her real name is Daisy & she's actually very shy. She says the nails help her get into the character of Chinchilla by giving her confidence & feel more powerful.
There are a couple busking videos of she & Ren. Apparently she was really afraid to do it but Ren convinced her &, of course, she was great. And BTW, she isn't wearing the nails in those videos.
No need for redemption, you both are Renegades, and we support our own. So glad you guys got a chance to see this version, IMHO it better portrays the message of the song. Hope you both have a wonderful New Year!! ❤😃👍
Awesome guys. A great performance from Chinchilla is her 'Fingers' Live video...outstanding performance and them creepy nails kinda feed in to the lyrics 😁
Many thanks Judson for the beautiful piano intro - nice reminder of my favorite songs (by any musician) - I've listened since I was 14 in 1977 and over time, I have learned to appreciate so many more aspects of the music and the lyrics. And its so nice to have you play a bit of the Chalk Outlines chords as well. Well done gentlemen, really enjoy your reactions and discussions. Keep up the good work.
What a pleasure and a privilege to watch this react from you, gentlemen!
I cry every time I hear this song. Their singing is just so beautiful!!
Really like your commentaries and especially the one about white clothes and the chalk. I never thought of it that way!
❤Thank you a great reaction Great Measures❤The live sounds along with the visuals make this for me a far better experience❤For me RENs attention to detail shows just how much he puts into his artistry.❤ I wish you both all the very best for 2024❤Blessed Be❤
THANK GOD!! someone who watches it and then reviews the video afterward instead of pausing it every 3 secs!!
Loved your version of Cortez the Killer, I got it right away!... haven't heard the reaction yet, just needed to pause the vid and say this
His memories. His mind vault. That’s what the start reminds me of.
Always nice to hear your perspectives on these. I much prefer the live version of this one, but the instrumentation on the studio version is lovely too.
I like the Neil Young at the start. Spotted it straight away!
It’s would be cool if he reacted to the Neil Young version and the Gov’t Mule version also.
Every time I watch it's like "join in on the piano!" Ha
On Chinchillas nails- she's said they give her power & make her able to sing with passion without care. I've played keys (very rudimentary stuff like starlight by muse) with pretty long claws but I could never keep them short enough to play guitar at all well, just strings humming against them all the time.
I absolutely see my meds as a crutch especially for the fact I go into withdrawing without them but they make it so I can get up & face the day. Between the mental illness & chronic pain I fell like I'm just walking around half dead at times.
First time I saw the video I just kept thinking “she is gonna put his eye out if she’s not careful” not sure if that comes from being a mom or an old ER nurse😂😂 enjoyed the reaction y’all! Hope you have a wonderful New Year!✌🏻🫶🏻
I get what you are saying about this version not being like a different song but for those of us who heard the live version first, the studio version is like a different inferior song because it sounds sped up and canned by comparison. It doesn’t have some of Chinchilla’s more experimental harmonies, however, which is an advantage I agree.
No need to be freaked out by the nails in this one, she's his echo. He's in the basement of a psych unit, someone practising guitar in their lunch hour left the door open to the cellars where the archives are kept.
Such a perfect performance. Together they are so stunning.
Great reaction and perspective ive never thought of after listening to it many many times. John Farnham - you are the voice with the austrialian orchestra is amazing and id love to hear a reaction from you guys on that
Just played this to the boys in music therapy. Good song..
I assumed they were in the basement if a mental hospital. Dead records, echos of a hundred voices then the song. Her nails also reminds her of the pisitioning of her hands and body during a performance and gives her confidence.
You have to do their live version of “how to be me”!!!
i really enjoyed your reaction to this one. insightful. you can see your mind clicking away & agreeing to disagree. great conversation from really great measures 😊
The real star of this version is the acoustics of the basement hallway they're in.
The ivory interpretation was super awesome! TY
Great song pick and a great video guys
Ren also performs this song solo with his band, The Big Push. That version is also simply amazing! 😊
Think the white clothes and files are giving the impression we're in a mental health facility.
Love the channel lads. Not sure if it's either of your things, but would be very interesting to see Judson's reaction to Protest the Hero, especially something from Fortress with the piano interludes. Anyhow, keep up the great work!
Beautiful tune and playing by Judsen in beginning❤
I heard where Chinchilla mentioned in an interview where she puts on the nails and it's a ritual. It's empowering for her.
Nice cortez the killer open
Love Niel young.
Proceeeeed Richard
There voices two together amazing
As for the music I personally like the recorded version, but there performance in the live version has a emotional aspect that is emotionally more impactful. If that makes any sense they are both great
X-Renchilla, I love it!
Love it
Those finger nails, I agree. It's nuts
I love you guys xo
Both versions are worth watching, no redemption tour needed, but nice rx
A more engaging performance for sure. A rare and unique talent. My only criticism is that there's one too many headstocks.
And I think we may have found the first candidate for "metalhead reacts to pianist friend's suggestion."
This reaction seems perfectly timed and sandwiched... if that makes any sense. It honestly does to me, but what do I know.
3:40 Also, I would like (decided?) to believe that the two of you were deliberately being masters at gentle trolling with that silent skit there. I love it. ♥
Just to trample on your dreams, they cut the feed from the mics during the playing of songs/videos, as seen in many of their previous reactions where Judson plays around with some keys on the piano to find the right notes: you never actually hear the piano then.
I think one of the most impressive part about ren's earlier videos is that there is no "production". Just playing a guitar and him singing in the street with a cheap microphone. We are witnessing greatness
Cortez the killer❤
It's a crutch. Haha so true
If you notice the 3rds (Maj or Min) are an octave displaced above the root? That gives it an even nicer interval to my ear...
Watch Fingers, live for hunger tv by CHINCHILLA. Love her voice with piano.
I was freaked out and honestly repulsed by the nails as well. So much that initially I couldn’t watch the video all the way through. Later my memory of the artistry got me through.
The song is otherworldly beautiful; I steadfast block out the nails.
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Check out Little Girl Gone by Chinchilla. Damn, we all need these nails.
lol I love the moment at the end.
both a bit lost for words
Like just for the intro and the yawns accompanying
Loved watching this! Would be great to see you react to more Lorna Shore or Will Ramos sleep token covers 🖤
lol I liked this reaction more. XD
So glad youre back with a new Ren reaction..Please do Rens band, The Big Push. Esp their performance of I shot the sherif/road to zion/hip hop (its a mash up, great arrangement and entertaining)
Built to Spill / Doug Martsch is absolutely brilliant.
😂I hate my job too
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I really like watching you guys. Maybe it would be cool if you would react to another song where Ren plays Piano like"for Joe" and the Song ist for his friend who comitted suicide.
"I like the word "GALLOWS" :P August Burns Red - MEDDLER
Am I hearing things? Someone said Cortez?
If we are doing different, how about Grandson..Eulogy
If you like "Cortez the Killer", you should check out a cover by Grace Potter, Joe Satriani and others performed at thr 6th Annual Jammy Awards on MTV in 2006.
Govt' Mule does the absolute best cover of Cortez the killer.
Do money game 3 for piano genius, perhaps preview 1&2 first 😁
Chinchilla's fingernails are her Crutch. She finds they give her confidence to perform. I expect her to take Ren's eyes out, no matter how many times I see this!!
She is a little behind throughout a lot of this song.
Thank you. Would love to hear more, any time you want to have a Ren listen. You might enjoy "How to be Me" which they both performed, as a tribute to Ren's friend Joe.
How are you musicians and you hear her voice and the first thing you comment on is her fingernails??????
No redemption needed my friends
I had a lot of trouble with those nails when I first saw this. For me they are a giant distraction and I get that is subjective.. Ive heard all the explanations, but to me they take away from my attention to the rest of her performance. Still I do like this version over the other.
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Waiting for you guys to ask “why is the artist making this decision?, and then “does this work toward making their point or not?”, as I pointed out in your Happier Than Ever by Billie Eilish video. Y’all are missing out on so much, it seems like you aren’t intellectually or artistically curious at all. Once again, I’d encourage y’all expand beyond “I like this or don’t like this,” to “why is this artist making this choice? And how does this work or doesn’t work considering the message they are trying to communicate?” Not to be harsh, but y’all really do come across as first year art students, and that’s really sad.
We did ask those questions. In every aspect mentioned, we speculate whether or not its bolstering the thesis of the song, whatever that truly may be. The records seen in the beginning, hair fingernails, the clothing, the setting, even the fact that the very lyrical offering has a significant pause after it (etc); all of these things are considered as having some kind of correlation to the artist’s intended message. This is a fact we assume the viewer is aware of as many viewers have been with us for a time. In every conversation we have, we ask, as you so kindly point out, “why is the artist doing this?” Every one. Sometimes the conversation goes into further subtext and other times we stay on the surface. After reading your critique twice, I am beginning to wonder whether you are even watching the videos to make this obviously misguided opinion. However, thank you for that opinion and we hope you have a wonderful day.
@@judsong I agree that you did ask what are the records about? What do the white clothes mean? But if we tracked the amount of time asking those questions vs the commentary about not liking her nails, the time spent would reveal the emphasis. Part of asking “why?” is also imagining and speculating about the answers to that question. Of course you’re welcome to critique my critique of your critique, but I really do hope you continue to experiment with the furthering of your conversations and explorations of your discussions. I do agree this was an improvement above other video reactions, and applaud you for that, but I assure you that I have been watching your videos all the way through, and do see room for improvement. Take that as you like it. Thank you for considering what I’m saying, it’s clear you care. Best wishes to both of you as well.
And to you..
@@judsong I really do offer these critiques in a good faith effort to help y’all create more impactful and meaningful reaction videos. Obviously you have plenty of positive responses and can enjoy them and disregard what I’m saying. I do think this might have struck a nerve because there’s possibly some degree of truth in what I’m saying. I don’t think I hold the entire truth, and you’re always able to disregard my input, but I really am coming from a place of wanting to hear the much deeper inquiry that I believe you both to be capable of for works like these. I encourage you both to continue to explore the “why this choice?” more in your reactions. Do/don’t like, and rules/break the rules commentary is worth noting, but the real meat for non-layperson reactions is in exploring the “why?”. Not just asking why, but adding insight about the possibilities of why and how the artist’s choices contribute to the outcome of the piece, and if you consider it successful in communicating their message, or unsuccessful.
I don’t know why I’m so invested in your channel in particular doing a more comprehensive exploration of this, vs some other channels, except that I can tell y’all have the background that equips you to explore these things much more than a casual, untrained listener.
I really do wish y’all well, and hope you can take my criticism in the spirit that it’s meant.
This was a non-rection. It didn't feel like the dude on left liked it. Not good.
Have y’all done his “Hey Ren”? If not, you should. Imo, it’s a masterpiece.
The live doesn't hit as hard once you know what's coming lol
What is your new habit?
The performance was beautiful and amazing. I wish people would leave her alone about her nails. Sheesh. Of ALL the things to analyze, you spent more depth on your feelings about her fingernails versus the song. I fell like your reaction to this song was lukewarm at best. They were singing about a friend who committed suicide by drugs due to depression. Because (like lots of people) the person was traumatized in life and was a chalk outline. Disliked this reaction intensely.
Love you guys but please stop posting reactions to things you obviously have no interest in.
This is not the right song from REN's repertoire to listen to with a piano player. You two need to watch the third part of the money game!
Seems like you guys are not enjoying this anymore.
Sorry! I made this comment to early. First half seemed tense, second half more relaxed.
No worries! We’re still thoroughly enjoying it.
I can't hear y'all reacting to the react video... Is it just me? WTF
It's useful to hear people go on and on about her in-character fingernails before, say, the passion of the performance, the wonderful harmonies etc.
It's a useful.. indicator, so thank you.
To be fair, you see the fingernails before you hear the performance - if you’re going through things sequentially, it’s a logical starting point.
They're there specifically to be noticed, and are her way of separating/distancing herself from the audience so to speak, to help her feel comfortable to perform. NOT noticing them on first viewing would actually be against what she's going for. Check out some interviews. PS: this isn't Chinchilla hate by any stretch, I think she's an incredible singer and has a unique style that makes a statement, which many TRY to pull off, but she executes very well.
You forgot to put your (sarc) after the sentence. Sounds like he was annoyed he had to do the same song twice because in his mind there was no difference. The live performance was acknowledged but it was not worth re-doing in his opinion. He didn't say it in those words but he was still saying it in his round about way. That was my take anyways. This one is leaps and bounds more impactful than the studio version, but I'm just a fan.
Your discomfort is very visible
Hey guys, that was painful for me to listen too, not you two though, lol! Just music I don't get...JAGUAR GOD - MASTODON PLEASE, it will not bug you...
Giving a like for you guys but dont rate ren.....i find it all a bit pretentious
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