2012 BMW M5 vs Nissan GT-R: Driven & Drifted - /CHRIS HARRIS ON CARS
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
- Chris Harris reviews the new 2012 BMW M5 and Nissan GT-R, in the rain. Do these two cars belong together? Probably not - but it's perfect for UA-cam search results, and thats why we're doing it. Watch as Chris reviews the two cars on the street and on the track.
Read Chris's PistonHeads article here: pistonheads.com...
You always know it's a Chris Harris review when the roads wet and Matt Farrah review when it's sunny and dry.lol!
That's because it's always raining in the UK
Chris we want you back...sincerely,
Everyone.
He looked so young back then, with them sideburns 😁
I love the /Drive series over Top gear for a few reason. One of them is that when they do car comparisons they are not looking for a winner or a loser they share what is great about each car and let you decided which is better for your style of driving. Also, I rarely find any of these guys biased at all unlike Top Gear. Keep up the good work /Drive TV you guys are passionate about what you do and it shows.
I can't begin to express how much I LOVE these videos. Chris Harris is by far the most brilliant of the vast galaxy of his kind. Of course no one comes close as he sets the bar....very hing indeed. I just can't get enough.
Thank you Chris, very much indeed mate.
Kev E28 M5, E28 Dinan owner for years.
'you gotta love M5's, no other car does that stuff' love that bit, such enjoyment by Chris Harris! :)
I've been coming back to this video obsessively for years - as of two months ago I finally managed to buy my dream car, a GT-R
they both can fit 4 people.. yeah right try and sit on the back seat of a gtr LMAO
You can easily fit 5 in the M5, it won't be particularly comfortable but it's perfectly doable. The M5 works just fine as a family car, the GTR is really a two seater sports car with two part time seats for when you really need to carry more people.
The GTR is more in line with the M4 but for that comparison the M4 doesn't have enough power and the GTR is far too expensive.
Chris is not exactly 195cm tall... 😂
SMRIDER100 its noy a mustang its Not that bad
try the backseat of a 991 911 or a Ford Mustang first....
I had a GT-r for a few years.....
The only car I could load up with luggage, stick the kids in the back, blast down the M4 to Heathrow with a boot full of luggage, sod off on me hols for a couple of weeks knowing that it will start when I get back......
The M5 is a poor comparison, a 911 Turbo is much better but you try and do the above in one of those...........
I love the GTR!!!!!!
We all do good sir we all do.
@@adityarai5367 i dont
I would take both. A M5 first for everyday use and the GT-R for weekends on the track and dragracing.
can you afford one of them? can you afford maintaining two sport cars?
@@jimboTTT neither are sports cars, especially the m5, that thing is a massive heavyweight limo
This is one of my favourite videos on the internet. My two favourite cars of this type, a great cinematic style and editor and the amazing Mr Harris
Great review! I love how they are never truly compared because they make it obvious they are very different categories, but its a fun head to head and the review is pretty good on its own,
This is by far the best review i have seen and because of this i have the 2013 BMW M5 and love it, thanks Chris Harris ;)
M5 is the one for me
+Will James id take the GTR over the M5 every day!
i know the bmw might be better build more comfy and so on but the nissan just is the more exciting car!
I'd say the BMW looked more exciting on the track, he had loads more fun with the cornering in the M5 vs the GT-R
For me ONLY GTR.
hopefully u have the money. otherwise neither of them is for you.
Yep, Chris is like Fifth Gear, except not catastrophically boring, he tells you what you need to know, all the important stuff, and still is pretty entertaining. Jeremy is just like most of us, he gets put into a nice fast car, and has a hoon. Both are entertaining!
The new Nissan gtr is one of thise understated cars, which is trying to compete with top rivals which have already established status among the super car world. This personally makes the Nissan (Datsun) more appealing in many different aspects which is may not be that obvious. I first saw a Nissan gtr back when I was travelling up and down the m3 to my place of work, the stance of the car is just so intimidating to all other road user, and from that point on I was truly convinced that this was a dark horse of the motoring world, you only have to read the technical stats of this car and you will have the Italians And Germans shaking in there boots. The thing that really struck me is how a company such as Nissan can sell such a wide range of cars but still manage to develop a car which will give you the performances of super car with the reliability and use ability to rival BMWs m range and Audi's quattro and RS ranges
i absolutely agree .... you really can listen to him the whole day and one can feel his love for cars in nearly every sentence.
Very good video. I couldn't choose! The BMW M5 is more comfortable and in the real world probably the best one (daily use considerd etc) but it's not as special as the GTR (every street has a 5series in it). I'm not sure how the GTR would hold up in everyday use, but it's a lot more special. You never see them in traffic here.
Nick M. U don't see them for a reason.. Cuz ppl prefer the m5
@@MehmetAliAydinbetatester not really, the GTR is a Super GT and its in a different market, hence the demand is lower as it meets different demands and needs of consumers. It has 4 seats, a decent boot and supercar performance with AWD and will also a much bigger following. The GTR is destined to be a future collector item
One of my first comments on youtube. Chris Harris makes this video fun to watch. Good job. I feel like You're genuinely enjoying yourself, it's refreshing.
My two favorite brands in this video. R35 is probably the only car of this nature I would own.
if clarkson is the club, then chris harris is the scalpel. i appreciate both because of their different approach, but mostly i find it more informing to learn about the car, than to see how much paintball bullets it can take..great job harris, keep up the good work!
Nice cars, but BMW needs to stop with the fake exhaust sound in their cars.
Jimbo Cee now VW has started with this crap too.
The more I watch his videos, the more I'm convinced that Chris Harris is really the best auto journalist since Jeremy Clarkson. Jeremy's a bit more tuned for humor, and Chris is a bit more about eloquence. Both are insightful, compelling, and likable.
GT-R for the win
Yes and I agree! My brother has a 2004 BMW 530i Manual Transmission that is used for $15,000 but it came in good condition, already installed Angel Eyes bulb, sports package and it was owned by a doctor so it is kept very well!
He's a good driver. I'd love to be able to drift like that
GTR is literally one of a kind
it literally explodes, crazy acceleration, 0 - 100kph in 2.7 seconds!!! that is crazy, imagine it pinging you into your seat, traction everywhere, all wheel drive, explodes out of corners, well balanced as well!
a 3.8L twin turbocharged v8!
expensive but its got better specifications than a super car
no way a gtr is soulless that is crazy might as well call every performance car soulless, so what it doesn't have a manual, it has one of those f1 DCT's in it!
*3.6L TT V6*
Jesse Porter it's 3,8 L !
I just looked it up 3.8L according to wiki.
3.6 is close enough though :)
Yeah I was getting my cars mixed up for a minute. I DO know the alpha GTRs and other tuners usually run a custom 4.0L block
its okay :)
he made me want a GT-R r35 so badly GTA
At 8.17 Chris is putting the traction control in race mode, not switching the traction control off. It explains why at 9.12 he says he is fighting the systems while trying to drift. Other than that an excellent video.
Nope. R is Read light. Off is orange light. He is fighting The mechanical differential, not the ESP
Everyone has a particular use for a car he wants. Want funas a youth, take a GT-R. Want comfort, speed and seem more responsible take an M5. For the difference in performance(GT-R) and difference in comfort+ status(M5), added to the fact that they have the same price, I'd rather say the M5 is the better car of these two.
GTR = Speed, comfort ,affordable, awd auto, no trans problems, daily driver BMW M5 = boring , crap suspension, horrible trans
Chris R Productions Your Text = makes no sense
DayWittaAK it does but your an idiot.
Nope ;) explain it
Chris R Productions affordable? 100k is affordable??No trans problems?FUCKING AWD? You are saying that awd is fun and rwd is boring?I'm am just going to assume you're 12 and know nothing about cars whatsoever
One of the more enjoyable reviews of cars on UA-cam.
I would pick the M5, but still I think the M6 Gran Coupe is even cooler than the M5
truth! the m6 gran coupe is ridiculous.
bob g Exactly! When it comes to the good looks and performance the M6 Gran Coupe is overkill
Selin Sarkar European cars is for senior citizen who loves to show off, love to drive and abuse Japanese is for you
i really like the way the ending of this video was done.
they're both pretty fucking great.
this is the best summary of these cars i have seen!
It's actually simple choice if you have children then pick the M5 and if you are a bachelor pick the GTR . The point is that these cars will never be in the same league ( GTR is a supercar or ultimate sport coupe while the M5 is a supersaloon ) think.like this GTR main rivals are Audi R8 and Porsche 911 Turbo while BMW M5 rivals are E63 AMG,Audi RS6,Porsche Panamera turbo and Jaguar XFR
god damn i love his reviews. so honest and so truthful, its unlike anything else you can watch
Fake engine noise? What has the world come to?
Playing cards in the wheel spokes is the next step!
waynester71 Pissed myself when I read these two comments from you and winchuni22,well said.Fake engine noise through speakers how cheap.
winchuni22 I think Audi started it with it's 4.2-V8 and now the other manufacturers start doing it, as well.
In my opinion, for cars like an M5 (or E63, RS6, etc) it is not so bad. Those cars really have the power and performance that matches the sound but if you want to "lay low" there's (theoretically) the possibility to tune down the sound.
I've driven an CL 63 AMG for about 500km on the Autobahn. Lovely mechanical V8-sound but after a few houndred kilometres it just gets annoying af. For those trips I personally would prefer "fake engine noises". IF I could tune them up or down by myself.
+winchuni22 thank you
That's what it's about. Each car has their own set of positives and negatives, but when it comes down to it, they are both fantastic cars to drive. Maybe not worlds different, but if I was ever offered either one of them to drive, "no" would never cross my lips.
Relax. Take a deep breath. Stop complaining over which car is better for this or that reason. Realize that these cars were built to very different philosophies. One is a quietly styled executive super sedan straight from the factory. The other is a racing derived sports coupe with a vast tuning industry built behind it.
I'll gladly take both of them.
dasgtr finally someone that gets it! Both are great cars.
its matt black, and its a factory color offered by BMW for their latest models.
there are also other standard colors(matt purple, matt blue.. etc) BMW is offering from 2013 i guess!
if your are interested you can put matt black vinyl sticker to your car which costs around 2000 pounds depending on your car.
its well worth money. i had it for my suv. just looks like real matt black paint!
The M5 is faster (not off the line obviously), more comfortable and it is 2 cars in one. It can be used daily, for shopping, fitting 4 people comfortably (even at high speeds), taking kids to school, going on long journeys. It can also be a MONSTER with the touch of a button. It's quick, fun, comfortable, sensible, handles well, performs well and that's why it's the car I would pick.
+شعيب سالم "The M5 is faster" are you for real? In what sense is the M5 faster than the GTR?
+LennyRhys In what sense don't you know that? The GTR is faster off the line but that's because of its 4 wheel drive. The M5 is faster on rolling
the M5 is faster yes, from 0-300 the M5 is a few seconds faster than the GTR, the GTR have the advantage of 4 wheel drive of the line, but if u race both cars from 100kmh to lets say 250, the M5 is faster than the GTR, without lanch control from 0 the bmw is also faster off the line, the GTR launch control is very good, without it tho, it isnt close to the time 0-100 with lanch control
Too bad this video didn't include a race or you'd see how wrong you are. Look at an actual performance comparision ua-cam.com/video/FjJSY0eZpHs/v-deo.html to quote "The GTR absolutely demolishes the m5 in every category" M5 competes with family cars like rs6, c63 amg and other sporty sedans. GTR competes with supercars r8 and 911 turbos. Performance is not even on the same planet.
It's funny, because 90% of people who watched this review (in my opinion, including me) will never be able to buy either of these beautiful great cars, but at least by watching we can get an idea of how great they are...Thanks to Chris Harris!
nissan gt-r all the way it's just a brilliant cat! this car needs no words! The bmw is all so a very nice salon car!
The GTR is a legend! The BMW is more luxury. *****
I know the GT-R is a very brilliant cat!
***** That's right a SALON car i:e hairdressers (salon)car.
Absolutely! I could listen to him review a sock, he's just that good.
I take the Nissan GTR.
I like both. I love the power of the gt-r. I love everything on the m5. The luxury, power, and handling is so balanced. Just such great engineering on both vehicles. I don't think they should be compared over another.
GTR
My dad has a 2013 m5, I'm getting my 2015 gtr in a couple of months, will be interesting to compare the 2
Nissan was twin turboing cars long before bmw
And mercedez was making cars long before nissan. That doesnt make them any better than the others.
Correct, as Mercedes are overpriced piles; same as BMWs.
***** lol, thats why I always laugh when people from top gear refer to them as "bm's"
*****
Assuming I used mercedes as an example because you think I like them, not because historically they were who produced the first modern automobile in 1885
Jirinoshi
Being that there are many manufacturers that were making cars before Nissan, my assumption was rather rational.
8:19 the gearbox on the GTR was in Save, which isnt Race mode and the suspension was in Standard mode. The Traction control was in R mode which isnt the Off position.
Seriously why are these the two most googled cars. BMW, at least in the UK, is the top selling manufacturer, they sell more 3 series than ford mondeos over here. They have no exclusivity anymore, anyone on 30k a year has one. As for the the GTR, its a Nissan with a plastic interior and a very good launch control & 4WD system but if you're over the age of 30, you're going to look like an idiot driving one.
And here in Australia it cost over $70k to buy any new BMW sedan.
And I don't think people will see you as an idiot if you are driving a $100k driver's car. You could say that about any fast car that isn't comfy and prestigious like a BMW
According to SMMT, Ford was the top selling manufacture in the UK in 2014. BMW was number five, behind Vauxhall, VW, and Audi. By registration, the Ford Fiesta is the #1 selling car in the UK for 2014. The 3 series is #10. Combine the Focus and the Fiesta and the two outsell the 3 series 6 to 1.
Before you drag up an old Jeremy Clarkson quote, you might want to check and see if it's still, you know, relevant. Better yet, come up with your own opinions...
Andy Metcalf Wrong. Ford outsells BMW overall on the grounds that they don't produce a Ford Fiesta competitor which sells big numbers in the sector. Look at the equivalent models though and in 2014; 3 series' sold: 29,000. vs Ford Mondeo: 12,000. The A3 sold 6,000 more than that as did the Mercedes C-Class. In fact if you add up Audi and BMW sales in the UK they outsell the significantly cheaper Fords which is astounding. Compare that to the top 10 cars sold in the US and its all pick ups and GM garbage.
IIXRATEDIIHiTMAN You said, "BMW, at least in the UK, is the top selling manufacturer..." That's simply not true.
Also, have you ever driven a pick up in America?
the BEST automotive reviewer!!!
Driving to work - M5
Driving with passion - GTR
Its not that bad, someone on the M5 boards deactivated the system in their F10 and the car sounded the same but a bit quieter.
Other manufacturers introduce valves, resonators, etc for no reason other than change the volume level of the exhaust and engine.
this one looks exactly like every other BMW ever produced. Boring. Why can't they design something that looks different
Chris Harris is clearly the next Top Gear guru..... and long may he live
Chris, personally, I think you were brought into this world to review cars. One day we will read books about you
Nissan♡♥
Chris Harris is a very, very good driver, and you're some guy on youtube. well done.
GTR fanboys are insanely immature.Sorry guys. I respect the GTR for what it is but why can't GTR fanboys look at both sides of the argument?
Chris Harris is one of the best reviewers ive seen :) also the ///M cars are the best!
m5 all day
Supra mk4 all day!
as always chris👍
regards from bahrain
gtr should be cheaper thn £70k or they should upgrade the interior something luxury
Amazing videos always seem ruined by the comments on UA-cam. This is a well made video looking at aspects of both in detail. Everyone has an opinion but at least have a good argument if ur going to call someone's opinion wrong and less of the foul language that always seems to follow on the internet. People annoy me these days.
GTR for me. BMW lost it's soul a long time ago
that was nesscary .
Jack Hobbs Just like your mom?
Jack Hobbs Oh well in that case nvmnd hahaha
BMW is just a brand, their performance is a pretty much a joke.
Jack Hobbs ok fan boy
i don't think so, its more that it doesn't incite negative fan emotions by being very rational and fair about the reviews and doesn't heat things up trying to pit people against each other
BMW = V2
GTR = Cruise missile
I hate to say it, but the V2 was actually much faster than a cruise missile. The whole point of a cruise missile, is that it cruises, really close to the surface, so it cannot be detected by radar. The average speed of the Tomahawk cruise missile is about 500 mph. Whereas the V2 was a ballistic missile, it went up in a suborbital trajectory, got up to several times the speed of sound, and went back down again. So it you really wanted a good comparison, the M5 could be a cruise missile, and the GTR could be a SAM, or an air to air missile, or something similar.
I love this review, because it's relatively objective and blatantly honest. There's constant comments online about certain cars having "no soul", and Chris hit the nail on the head with his affections for the GT-R, while pointing out its faults. Ditto the M5, loving it for its brutality and poise, but willingly criticizing its flaws. Complain though naysayers will about either, 99% of us would beg to have either, in our garage!
This is the ultimate video for fanboys. Anyone who claims one of these cars/brands is better than anything else is under the age of 20
Exactly, BMW , GT-R and GM fanboys are the worst.
"No because GT-R is faster than Veyron" - every 16 year old "car guy" that thinks they know everything about cars because they once researched a car and found out it was faster than what it cost and how it looked.
DAZ605 No such thing as a GM fanboy, considering GM is international. It is all American muscle and Chevy fanboys.
im under 20 and i agree with you. gtr for me. bwm has my respect
but the gtr is actually brilliant car and theres no such thing as a bmw fanboy
Chris Harris was a driver in the 2010 24hrs of Nurburgring race along with legendary Walter Rohrl, so i would say that he has more experience/knowledge than most
Bimmer all day!
Give me the GTR any day, remembering that the motor is handbuilt and every one will perform differently, at least I could work on the GTR and the parts wouldn't kill my budget
Hmm you must not know anything about maintaining a gtr. It's cost more to maintain than the M5.
In what way?
I always regard that comment nissan made as rubbish, they may be hand built engines but so are ferrari engines, amg engines and m engines for example and they all produce the factory power figures. A turbo engine like the gtr would rely on boost pressure to inject the amount of fuel to provide the power which is factory set and the same on all models so the power figures would all be the same. I think the gtr press release cars were more powerful than claimed and this resulted in this comment becoming fact and every owner wanted theirs to be producing more than 500hp not 476. A gtr is also much more expensive to service and maintain than any M5.
not a bmw fan at all..but whats up with all the hate? at the end of the day your still driving a boosted Altima..crappy quality compared to the beemer's
Alex Douglas yeh ill take the car that is a better all rounder which you can use in a multitude of ways plus tell me how many speeding tickets you are willing to take on every other road apart from the nurnberg and autobahn. My guess is you probably dont even live in Germany and therefore have no speed limitless roads so therefore the gtr is useless unless you want to do track days which lets face it, only like 5% of the owners of even M and AMG cars do.
Same shitty material LOL. And by the looks of it you prob drive a versa xD
JrJUICE sc Lol whatever you say, Mr. Bimmer Fanboy.
haha not at all bra. QUATTRO all the way!!
Still a crappy German VW, lol. JK, man, I'm just messing with you. All cars have their advantages and disadvantages, it's just what suits the driver's style.
I'm so jealous of your car control Chris!
can we stop comparing bmw to super cars already... they will never make anything stock to be anything that the nissan is.. bmw can't count on throwing a million and one buttons with wood grain dashes and comfortable seats .. that is where it ends.. bmw's performance line today's standard is shit.. their all limited to 155 sop come on now let it go nissan no mater what won this comparision just by showing up
look BMW Grand lusso !
Beautiful! That's is passion.... Not an argument over which is better but ab appreciation of what they do best...
*M5 all the way!*
In the end it's exactly the point. If you want speed and don't care about finish and interior, like race track (as you mentioned), there is probably no cheaper way to get a fast sport car. The M6 is a sport car for people who care more about interior finish. Probably I would say the M6 is for elder (35+) like me ;-)
lol GTR was a never a supercar....its a 4 seater saloon / sportcar !
*coupe, but yea valid point
*****
NO
its what its name implies, a Gran Touring with Race performance, wrapped in a sport coupe shell
Chris loving your work, love the gtr and m5 but would love to see you review the old z3m coupe, I have one, I think they are great and would like your view, compared to a modern day equivalent... an older vs new type deal.
Keep up the good work Chris, you guys make great video.
Chris! You've done it again my man...great vid
I agree, id choose the new E63 thx to AWD, which makes it trully everyday car. RWD is quite problem here in mountains.
Very good Review!
I'll take the GTR every day in the week.
I heard from Car and Driver that there is apparently no feel in the steering in the M5 and that it was ruined, but hey, that's just a magazine. I'd still have it with the manual option in the US.
100% correct! Thank you for an incisive comment. They are often rare on these pages. I could never afford a new M5 or 458 Italia but have owned a 2000 M5 and 246GTS Dino and they still thrill like me to drive and are so much more exciting than ther GT-R. The difference between passion and science/technology!
It feels the same in the motorway because the M5 has very long ratios, and sound proofing as good as the M550d...you can cruise at 250 in the M550d and you can cruise at 300 in the M5, and then go to the track and push the hell out of the car, and have fun...
I like how the GT-R has become the measuring scale, or ruler, for new fast cars. I like that.
Has to be the greatest car review ever!
Intake pressure does not spool up the turbo's on any engine. That is impossible. The BMW N63B44 engine has the intake and exhaust manifolds reversed. It's been being done for a while on large diesel engines. Ford has this same configuration on their new Scorpion diesel.
As always, Chris - bang on job. Keep it up!
Ten years ago I had a 1997 R33 GTR V Spec Skyline (4 wheel drive 4 wheel steer straight six twin turbo)with a chip ungraded engine and no Jap speed limiter, the car did 420 BHP it handled like a go kart kicked any Ferrari, Porsche, or Lotus arse across UK B roads. It was roomy reliable and well built and it only cost me 18K GBP for a 5 year old supercar. The BMW is good but I would love a GTR!
If you want to do a full scale test to compare the two cars speed and track testing would be the smallest portion of the test because at the end of the day these are supposed to be livable cars. With that in mind the GTR would lost just because the BMW is more refined and a better day to day car but one you can take for a nice cannon ride every once and a while.
Love how u expresses ur feeling towards the M5....saw ur E28 M5 review... U r really into the M5...but why not its a BLUE M5??!
I'm glad you came to the right conclusion at the end.
Both cars are just epic and affordable (in some time). Its really hard to make pick one here, but honestly I pick the M5 because its just the ultimate sleeper.
Agree. The two cars in the rewiev are the best of two worlds. Period.
Well the problem is that no matter how much power is being given to the rear wheels, the front wheels pulling on the road is going to straighten out the car, just like putting power to a FWD car to straighten it out of a slide.
chris harris makes the best reviews
Best comparison on the whole internet. Fact. Big big laudation for Chris Harris for comparing both cars 100 % fair-minded . I saw so many videos for these cars and all of them where downright garbage. This on : Simpy perfect ! Thanks ! Greeting from germany.