If you think you can actually do this, or think this is floating, watch this video of me properly performing the shifts very specifically. Those of you getting a kick out of the ignorance will love this one😂🙂 (HOW TO DRIVE A DOGBOX PART 2) ua-cam.com/users/shortsmZdeRx071Bg?feature=share
Can't call this common sense because there's proper ways to drive a manual. Dog boxes are fun and epic and a totally new driving experience, it goes against all the "normal" rules lol
I wouldn’t call this common scents a dog box transmission is something that I’ve never herd of an it looks almost like floating gears but sounds completely different
Well, when i explain it 50 different times, and people just say im wrong because they don't know or never heard of it, maybe look it up and learn, you know? That's the common sense im after
Can you teach me what a dog box is and why someone would “float gears”? I’ve been driving manual for 5 years but I’ve always shifted what I thought was normally
@@JWL123 floating gears has no use, its just fun and makes it easier since youre not using the clutch, its mostly used by truckers but u can do it in some cars too depending on the trans u got Now, u know how normal transmissions got tons of little teeth in the gears that gotta go in between each other when u shift, a dog box has few and bigger teeth, so it will basically continually shift correctly without having to use the clutch. Theyre made for this.
Dog box: referencing the "dogs" on the gears themselves, most widespread application I'd guess is in motorcycles or other sequentially shifted gearboxes. Hence why every newer bike seemingly has a "quickshifter" which is more or less just some computer aided gearbox grenade protection and an implement to make shifting without the clutch more feasible long term. Can technically shift gears without the clutch on any motorcycle, just have to be pretty close to perfect timing to avoid damage. Again having large dogs on each gear is what makes it possible.
@@NakiriX1it’s harder on a 125 than a litre bike. Releasing the throttle on a gear change should be in the basic mindset already. Anyone not doing that isn’t changing gears properly. ( not including blip shifting/ rev matching down gears) on a 125 there’s Less headroom to work with on the biting point But I did find slight pressure on the gear lever will change gears the direction you want almost perfectly each time without pulling in the clutch. I don’t mean push it down or up but simply applying pressure up or down with your foot and when it’s at that biting point it sort of naturally just slips itself in gear without a clutch. Easiest way to do it on a 125
@@rhythmrida ive done it on a 50cc, its not that hard. youre making it seems more complicated than it is. i just bonked it in and go. worked everytime no issues
He does have to rev match downshifts but it’s not as precise just a blip and slap it in gear go WOT. You have to be aggressive and quick with dog shifts they don’t like traditional rev matching and clutch slipping they’ll kick you out
I drove my 1986 mazda b2000 for a month with no clutch cuz the slave went out. Only until my friend was like whoa why aren’t you using the clutch. I was like the parts cost too much I need beer. He bought them for me 😂😂😂 then we drank beer 😂😂😂 I don’t drink anymore good ol days though
Can second this, accept for the beer part I was just lazy for a month maybe little more, slave was fucked master was fine, clutch in you couldn't get it into first but if you started the car in first with the clutch in it was riding the fuck out the clutch but it was enough to get me going and start floating again, I'd just crank it over when the light went green
@@LP-ix9pj If your starter and battery are in good condition you definetly can start a car in gear. I've done it multiple times and while it's not doing your starter any favours it'll work.
Used to try to do clutchless shifting in my lil 92 civic, got decent at it. Really helped with rev matching later on with faster cars and bikes on the edge of grip. Heel and toe was a ton of fun too
I learned the same on my 07 civic. second and 3rd synchros were pretty toast so I ended up just floating them most times. If I didn't, and I didn't shift super light, it'd grind a fuck ton.
Influx of new people, from the algorithm. No, you cant "do this in every car ever". I want you to film a video of yourself shifting clutchless from gear to gear at 7000rpm+ with 100ms shift speeds, upload it, and tag me. So this is what its like to drive with a dogbox. Check out the channel to see what its like to absolutely gap everyone using the dogbox. 😁👍
You actually can do this with 90% of stick shift cars it’s literally finding the sweet spot the gear engages without pressing the clutch. Every manual transmission has the ability but people don’t know how to do it properly without grinding
What you're talking about, and what im doing in the video are 2 different things. There is no "sweet spot" in a dogbox, it just shifts at any speed, any rpm.
Dont know much about these transmissions, but heres what google said if yall are too lazy and want to know: A conventional dog box doesn't require the clutch in order to change gears, however, it still requires an engine torque reduction in order to allow the dogs to disengage and the shift to take place. A dogbox is a manual transmission that uses thick durable blocks called “dogs” on the gear face with a lot of rotational play to engage the gears in the transmission when shifting. it's a gearbox that requires quick and forceful shifts between gears as well as rev matching.
its no dog box but the only car i've ever been able to float gears in effortlessly was the 87 VW cabriolet i used to own. the transmission in those things is uncanny lol. i barely used the clutch in that thing except to start out in first
No shit I Learned to Drive in my grandpa's 94 Volkswagen Rabbit Cabriolet. With a burnt out clutch. " float or sink" " just use that clutch for starting and stopping there ain't much left of it "😂
That’s cool that you can float gears be he’s not floating gears floating is getting the rpms high enough where the trans can slip into gear he can shift like he’s on a motorcycle with a quick shifter
R154s don't handle much more than 450hp without upgraded internals. My Aristo has a GS6-53DZ 6 speed manual from a diesel bmw which should hold a lot more power.
Watched your videos when i was deciding on getting mine 2 years ago. Took 6 months to get cause of bs but Deff badass and worth it. Only issue i had was they should label the gears lol and include oem shifter fork bolts. I bent one of the ones they sent
an uncle of mine back in Puerto Rico has this like 02-05 corolla that he shifts without the clutch cause he’s had it for so long that he knows how to he told me you could do it to any manual trans just gotta own the car long enough and learn the sweet spot for it !
For the people who don’t know, imagine two sets of teeth have to lock in for the car to go into gear. One drops into the other with tiny gaps on a normal transmission. In a dog box they and strengthened and made into giant large gaps instead of tons of tiny ones for the ‘teeth’ to fall into. The reason this seems like floating gears is because that’s essentially what the whole point of that transmission -allowing for gear engagement 100% of the time without the need for a clutch or double clutching like if there wasn’t a synchro system at all (TLDR that’s what is mainly changing here, the synchronization of gears and the wider range he is showing. Just hard to tell on video if you’re not familiar with the terminology)
To all the people that think that you can shift a synchronized transmission at any point in any RPM, like this dog box transmission is doing is completely ass backwards wrong. These don’t have a sweet spot where you can float the gear into the next one it in where it’s rpm dependent. These will take any rpm shift with no clutching in so like drift cars and drag cars where the clutch can be a hindrance or slip from constant release and grabbing at high rpm the dog teeth synchronizers will grab 99% of the time and hold the power you throw at them. Un like there street counterpart of the helical synchronizer.
I've read the comments explaining why people think it's floating. Watch a video of shifting in a big rig and you'll see the difference in rpm and time to shift. But if you were to compare it to anything close, I would say ride a motorcycle or dirt bike. Throttle off, shift up, throttle on. To down shift just blip the throttle as your down shifting. On a dirt bike it's super easy.
You still wanna switch gears at higher rpm, at least above 3-4000. Under I’d suggest you to use the clutch or to go into neutral before, sync the rpm above 3k then shift (without clutch)
@aendombaevouna ive been using this gearbox for 3 years, built it myself. The engagement is the same regardless if lift shift or clutch shift. There is no need for syncing.
Cannot wait to get my D.M.A. dog faced sequential in. Hoenstly, i might just put the H pattern option on to save coin and enjoy, but its going in a rally car!
Every manual i drove can do that. You need to match the revs, you can also upshift and downshift like that. Give a car a gas and as soon as you let go of the gas its very easy to put from gear to neutral without the clutch. To put it in gear just give it some rpms and light pressure on gearbox and it will fall right in
some people dont understand that with a dogbox you have to jam it in gear. there's no synchros so if you try to slowly put it in gear the dog faces will grind down and wear our. manufacturers actually recommend to drive them hard to prevent unnecessary wear.
It's different though, truck transmissions are typically non-syncromesh, so you either have to double clutch or float the gears. A dogbox has a few giant teeth that holds itself in gear on or off throttle, but there's a big clearance so in lift-off or or getting on throttle you can let the gearstick move into the next or last gear without hassle. You can't do that with a truck transmission, you need to let the engine & transmission RPM match before it'll let you go into the next gear. Otherwise you'll just grind the gears down and need a new transmission.
I mean id never heard of a dogbox before but i could easily tell this isnt the same as floating gears lol although floating gears is something manual drivers should learn to do! Had a throwout bearing go out on me once mid drive but i managed to make it home and save myself a tow bill.
I like dogboxes, prefer sequential though. However, unles you're getting gears cut for ya, the whine of the straight cut would get annoying really fast. Tolerable in a race, not the highway lol. Btw, the ppl who say you can do this with a normal trans, you technically can clutchless shift. However, that destroys your synchros. I've seen alot of old heads do it in their trucks. Coolest thing I can do with my 5spd is flat shift bc i drive a honda and my rev limiter is my shift light 😂😂
Youd be surprised. Jz get expensive, but they're better engines in every way. If my rb breaks, I will be trying to find a way to mate the front diff to one or my jzs
The costs can be very good. Subaru AWD boxes like he has are "alittle more" generally costing between 2500-7000 depending on brand and who installed the gear set. For other cars, I've seen gear sets as low as 1500$ and full-blown built boxes from 10-30k and up from there. I personally just bought a D.M.A. sequential transaxle dog face gears for my rally car and fully loaded, it came to 13800. Which honestly, in pale comparison to a "built" transmission for my car being 5k and EASILY destroyed. Was well worth the money. Average cost though for a PPG ( *trusted known brand* ) is about 7k for the gear set installed +/- options and install. And roughly 10-20k if you have someone else do ALL the work maybe more because it is so specialized.
@@alorrick7546 Can PPG make a t56 magnum into a single overdrive with a gear ratio set that's more like a CD009 but without having a weak first gear that's in the mid-upper 3.xx ratio zone? I don't like transmissions with 2 (or more) overdrives or too deep of an overdrive (past about 0.75) because you have to use too short of a rear axle gear and that leaves you with a small pinion that may break more easily. Also, high driveshaft speeds and less compatibility with super high RPM engines while being able to properly take advantage of them instead of having long ass gears. The reason why I say T56 magnum is because I hear they're easy to rebuild (top load or something?) and I know that they also hold an ASS of power. I suppose alternatively, I'd ask if a CD009 could be made top-load or otherwise more easily rebuildable.
I keep it full with motul gear300 blue oil. Every time ive opened it to inspect, there's little to no wear. If you shift it right and dont bounce the dogs, the only thing that'll really happen is breaking them from overpower.
Do you run strain gauge / load cell sensor on the shifter for flatshift strategy in the ecu? Or do you just unload the transmission with slight throttle lift when changing gear without clutch? Waiting for my gearset at this moment.
I used to run a shift knob. I dont anymore. I actually use my clutch for upshifting cause its less violent. I dont really lift shift even though you can.
Do you speds not understand the difference between this and floating gears? IT'S NOT THE SAME THING, float gears at redline and let me know how that goes for you.
If you think you can actually do this, or think this is floating, watch this video of me properly performing the shifts very specifically. Those of you getting a kick out of the ignorance will love this one😂🙂
(HOW TO DRIVE A DOGBOX PART 2)
ua-cam.com/users/shortsmZdeRx071Bg?feature=share
should of just referred these guys to donut ua-cam.com/video/RikzgmPvmnE/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Donut
cool clip though.
The amount of people that don’t understand the difference between floating gears and you jamming that shit in no issue is insane
Cant teach common sense lol
@RabidJz unfortunately, common sense isn't exactly common
Can't call this common sense because there's proper ways to drive a manual.
Dog boxes are fun and epic and a totally new driving experience, it goes against all the "normal" rules lol
I wouldn’t call this common scents a dog box transmission is something that I’ve never herd of an it looks almost like floating gears but sounds completely different
Well, when i explain it 50 different times, and people just say im wrong because they don't know or never heard of it, maybe look it up and learn, you know? That's the common sense im after
The amount of people in the comments that don’t know what a dog box is and are just assuming he’s floating gears is killing me.
It almost hurts to read
Can you teach me what a dog box is and why someone would “float gears”? I’ve been driving manual for 5 years but I’ve always shifted what I thought was normally
@@JWL123 floating gears has no use, its just fun and makes it easier since youre not using the clutch, its mostly used by truckers but u can do it in some cars too depending on the trans u got
Now, u know how normal transmissions got tons of little teeth in the gears that gotta go in between each other when u shift, a dog box has few and bigger teeth, so it will basically continually shift correctly without having to use the clutch. Theyre made for this.
@@r32juan awesome thanks for the info brother. Never heard of it before but sounds super fun
Dog box: referencing the "dogs" on the gears themselves, most widespread application I'd guess is in motorcycles or other sequentially shifted gearboxes. Hence why every newer bike seemingly has a "quickshifter" which is more or less just some computer aided gearbox grenade protection and an implement to make shifting without the clutch more feasible long term. Can technically shift gears without the clutch on any motorcycle, just have to be pretty close to perfect timing to avoid damage. Again having large dogs on each gear is what makes it possible.
"Beautiful best thing on the planet" - Morty
Thank you for this
Kermit the frog 😂😂
Cartman is all grown up🥹
I can’t unsee this now 😂😂
Very Morty-esque 👍
Just tell them your on a test drive or it’s stolen. Fixes everything.
Lmao
Did you not hear him say dog box?
@@Akimbo1313 What is that suppost to mean ? ( a dogbox)
That's the type of gearbox i have in my car
@@RabidJz what makes it different from a normal gearbox? I can clearly see the result of one, but how is it different?
R154 can float gears pretty damn good, got me home after slave cylinder blew on me lol
Good to know I wanna toss one in my mk3
I had a 94 accord that this happened to me and I was able to limp it home with no clutch
You can float gears in any car really
@@jerky6449 did your mk3 come with the w58?
@@tpars027 sadly yes. 7mge too 😔
Motorcyclist's best kept secret. I use my clutch in first from a stop and nowhere else
The vast majority of motorcycles have dogboxes
tried it once in my 125cc 4 stroker, she was very unhappy but my mechanic wasn't
@@Racks47 you need to fully let go of the gas
@@NakiriX1it’s harder on a 125 than a litre bike. Releasing the throttle on a gear change should be in the basic mindset already. Anyone not doing that isn’t changing gears properly. ( not including blip shifting/ rev matching down gears) on a 125 there’s Less headroom to work with on the biting point But I did find slight pressure on the gear lever will change gears the direction you want almost perfectly each time without pulling in the clutch. I don’t mean push it down or up but simply applying pressure up or down with your foot and when it’s at that biting point it sort of naturally just slips itself in gear without a clutch. Easiest way to do it on a 125
@@rhythmrida ive done it on a 50cc, its not that hard. youre making it seems more complicated than it is. i just bonked it in and go. worked everytime no issues
@@rhythmrida also i never ride litre bikes so i dont see where you get that from
Y’all rev matching and floating gears is not what he’s doing lol
He does have to rev match downshifts but it’s not as precise just a blip and slap it in gear go WOT. You have to be aggressive and quick with dog shifts they don’t like traditional rev matching and clutch slipping they’ll kick you out
yall dont even kno the power this man has
I drove my 1986 mazda b2000 for a month with no clutch cuz the slave went out. Only until my friend was like whoa why aren’t you using the clutch. I was like the parts cost too much I need beer. He bought them for me 😂😂😂 then we drank beer 😂😂😂 I don’t drink anymore good ol days though
How did you stop and take off?
@@WhyAreYouUpsetProbably shut it off and started it in first
@@darrellsmith5104car would stall, prob has to use hills to get going and a keen eye on the rpm’s to roll into second gear
Can second this, accept for the beer part I was just lazy for a month maybe little more, slave was fucked master was fine, clutch in you couldn't get it into first but if you started the car in first with the clutch in it was riding the fuck out the clutch but it was enough to get me going and start floating again, I'd just crank it over when the light went green
@@LP-ix9pj If your starter and battery are in good condition you definetly can start a car in gear. I've done it multiple times and while it's not doing your starter any favours it'll work.
Used to try to do clutchless shifting in my lil 92 civic, got decent at it. Really helped with rev matching later on with faster cars and bikes on the edge of grip. Heel and toe was a ton of fun too
I learned the same on my 07 civic. second and 3rd synchros were pretty toast so I ended up just floating them most times. If I didn't, and I didn't shift super light, it'd grind a fuck ton.
I know you're not comparing floating to actually shifting. He doesn't need a clutch, it's a dog box. You need a clutch, you don't have w dog box
@jersey3686 yeah you're just a shitty driver
that poor civic
My 92 was really nice good pedal spacing for my huge feet 😅 almost bought a miata until I sat in one. 😢
I got a Magnum T-56 from G-Force transmission and it's the BEST...Oh yeah it can handle 1200h.p 1000 foot pounds of torque...Dog box All Day
What that thing run you?
@@bstims2506about 4 grand all said and done.
@@bstims2506a couple million
@@bstims2506yeah frl lol
They put dog engagements in the T-56? What did that cost?
Influx of new people, from the algorithm. No, you cant "do this in every car ever". I want you to film a video of yourself shifting clutchless from gear to gear at 7000rpm+ with 100ms shift speeds, upload it, and tag me.
So this is what its like to drive with a dogbox. Check out the channel to see what its like to absolutely gap everyone using the dogbox. 😁👍
You actually can do this with 90% of stick shift cars it’s literally finding the sweet spot the gear engages without pressing the clutch. Every manual transmission has the ability but people don’t know how to do it properly without grinding
No, you cannot freely shift synchronized Transmissions at any rpm and speed, clutchless.
@@RabidJzin defense you can do this in any manual car. I had to clutches shift 75 miles home. Lucky me i didn’t have to stop xD
Sweet spot for my tranny was 2-3.5k it’ll just go into and out of gear but faster than that required gas manipulation before shifting.
What you're talking about, and what im doing in the video are 2 different things. There is no "sweet spot" in a dogbox, it just shifts at any speed, any rpm.
Dont know much about these transmissions, but heres what google said if yall are too lazy and want to know: A conventional dog box doesn't require the clutch in order to change gears, however, it still requires an engine torque reduction in order to allow the dogs to disengage and the shift to take place.
A dogbox is a manual transmission that uses thick durable blocks called “dogs” on the gear face with a lot of rotational play to engage the gears in the transmission when shifting. it's a gearbox that requires quick and forceful shifts between gears as well as rev matching.
its no dog box but the only car i've ever been able to float gears in effortlessly was the 87 VW cabriolet i used to own. the transmission in those things is uncanny lol. i barely used the clutch in that thing except to start out in first
Lmao i have a 96 cabriolet and let me assure you floating gears is a dream. i practically never use the clutch either 😂
No shit I Learned to Drive in my grandpa's 94 Volkswagen Rabbit Cabriolet. With a burnt out clutch. " float or sink" " just use that clutch for starting and stopping there ain't much left of it "😂
i test drove a 98 and it was the biggest pos ever
54 international floating gears 96 civic floated gears. 2000 s10 same
That’s cool that you can float gears be he’s not floating gears floating is getting the rpms high enough where the trans can slip into gear he can shift like he’s on a motorcycle with a quick shifter
I swear I hear morty at the end “best thing on the planet”
You should rank jz compatible manual transmissions with pros and cons. For my project I’m gonna go with the cd009 or the r154
I guess i could do that. I have had a pretty decent experience with all of them
R154s don't handle much more than 450hp without upgraded internals. My Aristo has a GS6-53DZ 6 speed manual from a diesel bmw which should hold a lot more power.
My r154 on stock internals handled 700+. My r154 currently is dogbox now
What is the best way to go if i have a 2jzgte and a brand new cd009 still in its nissan container?
@@RabidJz oh sweet! Did it last long? I'm hearing lots of people breaking their 154s after single turboing their 1JZ/2JZ cars.
I do this in my Ranger with the stock trans . And it works perfectly.
Them straight gears. 😍
Love dog boxes left foot braking and clutchless shifting is amazing
Straight cut gears for the win
Watched your videos when i was deciding on getting mine 2 years ago. Took 6 months to get cause of bs but Deff badass and worth it. Only issue i had was they should label the gears lol and include oem shifter fork bolts. I bent one of the ones they sent
an uncle of mine back in Puerto Rico has this like 02-05 corolla that he shifts without the clutch cause he’s had it for so long that he knows how to he told me you could do it to any manual trans just gotta own the car long enough and learn the sweet spot for it !
I don’t think it’ll be too good on the synchros
You can float gears in any transmission. However, that's nothing like the way you shift a dog box.
I could drive my car for ages stuffed box. Rev matching.
the car sounds insane
Absolutely love this noise
For the people who don’t know, imagine two sets of teeth have to lock in for the car to go into gear. One drops into the other with tiny gaps on a normal transmission. In a dog box they and strengthened and made into giant large gaps instead of tons of tiny ones for the ‘teeth’ to fall into. The reason this seems like floating gears is because that’s essentially what the whole point of that transmission -allowing for gear engagement 100% of the time without the need for a clutch or double clutching like if there wasn’t a synchro system at all (TLDR that’s what is mainly changing here, the synchronization of gears and the wider range he is showing. Just hard to tell on video if you’re not familiar with the terminology)
My life is basically just a Street Fighter Alpha 3 - Dan Stage Theme.
“I don’t want it I don’t want it I NEED IT”
I think at this point anything is better than the charger or challenger body style. You cant go wrong with the 90s.
To all the people that think that you can shift a synchronized transmission at any point in any RPM, like this dog box transmission is doing is completely ass backwards wrong.
These don’t have a sweet spot where you can float the gear into the next one it in where it’s rpm dependent. These will take any rpm shift with no clutching in so like drift cars and drag cars where the clutch can be a hindrance or slip from constant release and grabbing at high rpm the dog teeth synchronizers will grab 99% of the time and hold the power you throw at them. Un like there street counterpart of the helical synchronizer.
I've read the comments explaining why people think it's floating. Watch a video of shifting in a big rig and you'll see the difference in rpm and time to shift. But if you were to compare it to anything close, I would say ride a motorcycle or dirt bike. Throttle off, shift up, throttle on. To down shift just blip the throttle as your down shifting. On a dirt bike it's super easy.
oh my god does it sound so damn beautiful! Not going to lie to you friend I am pretty jealous of you.
NOW WE'RE FLOATING GEARS!!!
The cool thing about motorcycles is they come standard with sequential dog boxes. Not to mention speed per dollar ratio 😎
Its crazy the amount of people in this comment section with no idea about what theyre talking about but literally all the confidence of it
that really fucking cool i did not know that
Words of a goat lol 🙏🙏🙏
I have a question. If one switches gears without clutch in a dog box doesn't it damage the gears?
No. Its works the same weather you are or aren't
@@RabidJz Thank you very much
You still wanna switch gears at higher rpm, at least above 3-4000. Under I’d suggest you to use the clutch or to go into neutral before, sync the rpm above 3k then shift (without clutch)
@aendombaevouna ive been using this gearbox for 3 years, built it myself. The engagement is the same regardless if lift shift or clutch shift. There is no need for syncing.
I was answering to @@vort-x4896 question…
I need this in my car!
whats that whistling sound NOT the turbo but I think its the transmission? Is that correct?
Yes. The whining is from the transmission
Yep. Gear whine.
This is what it feels like to chew 5 gum
I want to hear the WEEEEEE ASS SCREAM OF THE DOGGIE
Any of my shorts
I need this for my e46!!!!
Beautiful (booom)
Cannot wait to get my D.M.A. dog faced sequential in. Hoenstly, i might just put the H pattern option on to save coin and enjoy, but its going in a rally car!
“My apologies mister they stole this truck a while back you see”
bro is more morty than morty
The rotary engine of gearboxes 😅
Awesome
Every manual i drove can do that. You need to match the revs, you can also upshift and downshift like that. Give a car a gas and as soon as you let go of the gas its very easy to put from gear to neutral without the clutch. To put it in gear just give it some rpms and light pressure on gearbox and it will fall right in
I don't have to do any of those discrepancies to shift. Which means its not the same, and not every manual car can do it.
You want a 10 second car? Evo 8 mi-vec and a dog box…
Bro is In forza 4 🔥🔥🔥
some people dont understand that with a dogbox you have to jam it in gear. there's no synchros so if you try to slowly put it in gear the dog faces will grind down and wear our. manufacturers actually recommend to drive them hard to prevent unnecessary wear.
As a truck driver, we don't use the clutch either.
It's different though, truck transmissions are typically non-syncromesh, so you either have to double clutch or float the gears.
A dogbox has a few giant teeth that holds itself in gear on or off throttle, but there's a big clearance so in lift-off or or getting on throttle you can let the gearstick move into the next or last gear without hassle.
You can't do that with a truck transmission, you need to let the engine & transmission RPM match before it'll let you go into the next gear. Otherwise you'll just grind the gears down and need a new transmission.
I don't know a whole lot about cars but u can do it on every bike. Doesn't rly matter what bike u have if u know it well and have the skill
I passed you on that road once, blue ss silverado
Welcome to NASCAR
Would love to hear it high speed and hear that 🍷
Especially when they gotta be rebuilt, every 50 K
So thats why it was called a crash box
No that's the manual transmission with syncromesh
Look up dog clutch they're very durable
@@bryanleal1475 ive researched it. A crash box is basically a poor man's dog box
It's not a crash box.. yeah whatever man
@@bryanleal1475 well not the one in the video. But that's what a crash box is. A poor man's dogbox
Dude I thought this was one of the trailer park boys
I mean id never heard of a dogbox before but i could easily tell this isnt the same as floating gears lol although floating gears is something manual drivers should learn to do! Had a throwout bearing go out on me once mid drive but i managed to make it home and save myself a tow bill.
i thought a dogbox is the equivalent to set of sequential straight cut gears and not h-pattern. guess i learn something new every day
Dogbox is a gear selector style. Sequential is a shifter style
This is a lot of mental gymnastics to get around liking automatic transmissions.
Nothing wrong with automatics
Omg I need one
I don’t have a dogbox but that’s how I shift my 225k Honda accord 😂
Looks like you daily it huh? How many miles do you think it'll last if you dont beat on it all the time?
I beat the shit out of it every time i drive it. Been going strong for 3+ years, and road trips
I've always heard the latter, you're the second person I've seen that daily's these. Now I'm considering it haha. @@RabidJz
Just go look at my channel. I have 500 videos of my cars. This car here is the channel icon.
So wait does this thing just automatically clutch or are the internals: sleeve, synchronizer, teeth tough enough to withstand being roughed arround?
I like dogboxes, prefer sequential though. However, unles you're getting gears cut for ya, the whine of the straight cut would get annoying really fast. Tolerable in a race, not the highway lol. Btw, the ppl who say you can do this with a normal trans, you technically can clutchless shift. However, that destroys your synchros. I've seen alot of old heads do it in their trucks. Coolest thing I can do with my 5spd is flat shift bc i drive a honda and my rev limiter is my shift light 😂😂
I want one and I want it NOW 😭
So is this like sequential? Now i need to learn wtf dogboxes are..
This is nice to know for when my rb26 blows up and I immediately break 3rd gear after swapping in a 2j
This is something that worries me for my gtr
@@RabidJz knowing i can abandon the rb and save like 15k on a new engine helps me sleep slightly better at night
Youd be surprised. Jz get expensive, but they're better engines in every way. If my rb breaks, I will be trying to find a way to mate the front diff to one or my jzs
Dogbox? Sequential?
What is a dogbox? Seems cool af
Can someone explain this to me please what is a dog box and what’s the difference between this and floating gears ??
Where you get something like this at is what I'm asking?
IDC what anyone says. I LOVE the sound of straight cut gears as well. 😂
Is this similar to the Camaros no lift shift or what? I don’t know transmissions very well yet
Do you ever mis-shift and overrev your motor when doing that?
It can happen, and that's a risk
H pattern dogbox is the goat. How much did it cost ya, though?
The costs can be very good.
Subaru AWD boxes like he has are "alittle more" generally costing between 2500-7000 depending on brand and who installed the gear set.
For other cars, I've seen gear sets as low as 1500$ and full-blown built boxes from 10-30k and up from there.
I personally just bought a D.M.A. sequential transaxle dog face gears for my rally car and fully loaded, it came to 13800.
Which honestly, in pale comparison to a "built" transmission for my car being 5k and EASILY destroyed.
Was well worth the money.
Average cost though for a PPG ( *trusted known brand* ) is about 7k for the gear set installed +/- options and install.
And roughly 10-20k if you have someone else do ALL the work maybe more because it is so specialized.
@@alorrick7546 Can PPG make a t56 magnum into a single overdrive with a gear ratio set that's more like a CD009 but without having a weak first gear that's in the mid-upper 3.xx ratio zone? I don't like transmissions with 2 (or more) overdrives or too deep of an overdrive (past about 0.75) because you have to use too short of a rear axle gear and that leaves you with a small pinion that may break more easily. Also, high driveshaft speeds and less compatibility with super high RPM engines while being able to properly take advantage of them instead of having long ass gears.
The reason why I say T56 magnum is because I hear they're easy to rebuild (top load or something?) and I know that they also hold an ASS of power. I suppose alternatively, I'd ask if a CD009 could be made top-load or otherwise more easily rebuildable.
I drove a Chevy Silverado rwd standard like that since the clutch was going bad
How are you doing that?
Waiiiiit i thought you need to rev it high to shift in the next gear clutchless
Sound like a cartoon character
My old jeep patriot NVT355 could float gears great until it couldn’t. Who knew a trans could crack from the inside out 🤷🏻
Is the clutch still an option?
Is this basically a dirt bike recluse clutch for cars?
Regular clutch, different gear engagement. Basically the same style gearbox as a motorcycle
The dogbox is literally the area where shifter is ...
What are you even talking about
How’s the maintenance on that box
I keep it full with motul gear300 blue oil. Every time ive opened it to inspect, there's little to no wear. If you shift it right and dont bounce the dogs, the only thing that'll really happen is breaking them from overpower.
Do you run strain gauge / load cell sensor on the shifter for flatshift strategy in the ecu? Or do you just unload the transmission with slight throttle lift when changing gear without clutch? Waiting for my gearset at this moment.
I used to run a shift knob. I dont anymore. I actually use my clutch for upshifting cause its less violent. I dont really lift shift even though you can.
I'm guessing that hole on the dash is where the laptop usually sits?
Nah, its a removable panel where my airbag was. Its the access panel to my ecu
@RabidJz yea I know. Was making a "civic with a laptop" joke
Where did u get the shift knob?
Made it myself
Why did bro sound like Morty at the end
Im Morty
so i got a question, what happen with the cage that was in the car XD
I cut out the front half
Do you speds not understand the difference between this and floating gears? IT'S NOT THE SAME THING, float gears at redline and let me know how that goes for you.
It won’t 🤣 they’ll be picking up the transmission on the street with a broom 🤣 these people are DUMB and it’s annoying.
Need one for my daewoo
Why do you add two Jay-Z tag? When you’re in a Subaru 2004
What part of this looks like a subaru
All i hear is cypress hill rn. 😅 guess its time to smoke
Me- Mom I need IMT !
Mom- We have IMT at home.
IMT at Home - 😂😂😂😂
What is the life span of that befor rebuild?
Been going for 3+ years with over 800whp with no rebuild