@Benjamin Vadocz You do not need to put a knee down to ride a bike. I would hardly say its an essential skill for riders. Knowing your bike and being able to corner safely yes, getting as low as you possibly can, no, not so much.
Your videos have given me the confidence and motivation I need to get out there and practice. I used to be terrified of riding my bike to work when traffic was heavy, but now it's the best part of my day. Thank you Eddie for providing such a wonderful service out of the kindness of your heart man. Hearing someone so passionate about the safety of others really makes me glad to be a part of the motorcycle community. Keep doing what you're doing, me and the 69 thousand other people like me will always keep watching. Stay safe out there everyone
I couldn’t agree more. Thank you Fast Eddie for all of your help and motivation to Shut up and practice. I ride to work everyday and most days and now before I get home I hit the local motorcycle training course for a good 10 minute blast of practice then head home. Keep up the great work.
After thirty years of riding this seems obvious, but thank you for pointing this out. We all need the fundamentals. Hopefully the newer riders are paying attention. Keep it up brother.
and more people need to practice and take more training MotoJitsu.com/courses If you haven't done so yet, check out my website MotoJitsu.com for my app, books, discounts, etc.
Just put a crash cage on my Ninja z1000sx, been practicing in a parking lot. Low sided a few times, but love the process. Getting much more confidence with the bike, tires, and traction. Thanks for the inspiration!
im riding a lot, got in about three years of riding a lot of kilometers on my bike, i also ride into the minus celsius degrees in winter, rain, snow, wind. but this video makes me wanna practice that too, shows me how much i still have to learn. thanks a lot and stay safe!
You need to make a video on crash protection for the bike, because part of practice is to fail and learn a little, and personally I dont wanna scratch up my new plastics
@@jORDYTHEMAN1 I'm talking in general. Not everybody wants to cut and trim this and that for certain frame sliders or a crash cage. I was just saying throw out a video for newer people showing and explaining different safety products for the bike itself and where to get them from.
Same in the U.K., land is so expensive here that parking lots are rare, small and always full of cars and any empty lots are usually gated shut or monitored live with CCTV.
@@DJRipGroove99 Find the nearest B&Q or any other big market and practice there when the shop is closed, e.g. 9 pm. This is what I do. Not perfect solution but always
Been riding for a couple years now, but never really pushed my 748 or my R6 even close to their limits. My biggest fear right now is getting an understanding for when traction gets lost during cornering, because even though I've learned all the "signs," such as gravel, rough throttle, tight on the bars, too much lean, etc., my knowledge is only "in theory" but not in practice. I'm never sure "how much" of those things is where the threshold is, so I feel like I sell myself short going into turns. I'm afraid to really hone in and take a risk by taking a corner fast and leaning hard. How do I really test that threshold out? Once your wheel gives out, your wheel gives out, and you crash. How do you experiment with thresholds that make you crash without... crashing? I'd really love to get over that fear step by step but am trying to stay upright as well, lol. Thanks so much for the content!
awesome video, can you share the diameter of the cones to practice? where do you get these knee pucks, i am finding for such pucks for long but cant find them.......
Great video. It’s very easy to run off the edge of the tyre. Years ago on a track day. I was going well and getting both knees down & a mate of mine was surprised. I said it was easy . Unfortunately I got carried away with my self confidence and tried to get my elbow down like Marquez. Unfortunately as I went for it I opened the throttle ( unintentionally) and spun up the back wheel. I went sprawling across the track . I managed to pick the bike up & get to the pits to a chorus of mates cheering and laughing. 🤣🤣🤣🤣👍.
The XR gets pretty hot when practicing now that it's hotter. Getting a brentune this week that kicks the fan on at 185, right now the bike gets up to 220 during parking lot drills.
I've got a Kawasaki Versys, I've leaned it to peg-scraping angles(about 55°), while hanging off the bike, but I've never got knee down. I think the geomtry of it rules it out... I would have to be entirely out of the seat(not just cheek off) to be able to get my knee out and down enough to hit the ground before the footpeg.
The issue is probably at your ankle. You are likely pushing 'through' your foot. As though trying to fold your shin flat into your foot. Your inside ankle wants to be free and unloaded on the peg.
Should I be practicing leaning that far on stock tires or should I wait till I wear them out and replace them with better ones? Btw, thanks a bunch for the videos. Inspiring.
Hi MotoJitsu. Thanks for all the instructional videos. I’m just wondering. Isn’t it super hard to feel the limits without crashing? Seems like you have to be super experienced too feel the limit? Is there any ways to know the limits without crashing? (Even on a parking lot).
These videos give me so much motivation to go out and slowly practice and practice to make such kind of turns soon. I will shut-up and practice today. I have the time today!
@@MotoJitsu Thanks. Today's practice was not so good. I was not able to pass the white-belt lessons and got a bit nervous at times on right-side turns. strange. I have done better in the past. I shall keep practicing. Thanks!!! One thing i learnt, not to be over confident and just to shut-up and practice daily.
Eddie, this is Luis the owner of the 1290 super duke r from the ARC1 which Lee taught a few weeks back! Great videos! Congratulations! I identified that one thing that was hindering my ability to just trust and fully implement the skills I learned that day was my fear to drop such and expensive bike, so I went and got myself a drz400 just to practice! One thing that I regret I didn’t t ask you guys was: When leaning (turning) left for example and considering I am trying to do the correct posture showed in class, how much of my weight should be in the inside pegs and how much on the outside leg “bracing” the tank. Since I’m trying to do keep my grip as light as possible and my elbows low (as instructed by Dave), it is still a little unclear on how the weight distribution during the lean since the legs do most of the work right? Could you talk a little about that pls?
Sweet!! Sweet bike!! Whatever weight shifts onto you feet from the proper body position is what goes there...there's not a %. No need to think about legs at what pressure is on what peg....more so to practice moving your butt back and turning your chin, shoulders, and hips into the turn. I have videos/pictures of me riding my old DRZ you can compare. I have them on my website, motojitsu.com look in the gallery.
How does this translate to higher speed like what would be found on road riding? Obviously your suspension is under different levels of load the faster you go, wouldn’t the level of grip you have decrease with speed?
Eddie man what are you doing with your throttle hand when leaned over all the way do you maintain the gas, or coast through the corner till you pick it back up. My problem is I got the body position, but once I start to lean over I get this choppy felling in the bike I don't know if I'm supposed to be maintaining speed at the highest lean angle or back off throttle I've heard conflicting advice.
The choppy feeling is you...never the bike. You have to twist the throttle to maintain your speed after you've leaned over...at 0% throttle you'll just keep slowing down.
Thank you for the reply back been learning a ton from you! 8 year rider here, and just realizing I had so much to learn when I saw you putting a knee down on a gs 1200 you definitely know what your doing! Also follow up question on throttle hand is there a way you can make a video showing us what your hand is doing through a corner I think that would help us all a ton I have some friend who can benefit from your videos they see me getting closer to putting my knee down, and I keep sending them links to your videos. Just a question I know that most of all the work is in your right hand why I ask if you could.
@@MotoJitsu thank you I'll be doing my first track day this weekend, and I got the N2 track day membership so I can get someone to coach me through the steps of it, and get to a new level of confidence your videos help build that up still got a ways to go, but I'll definitely keep practicing, and look out for classes near me I'm in GA or I'd attend one of your events!
Thanks for the video from a new first time rider. So, hope this is not too stupid a question, but what is the point of placing the knee out wide? is it so that if you fall your leg won't be trapped under the bike? Also, I don't understand how you can tell the limits of the bike lean. You obviously don't want to dump your bike (BMW?)..and what do you do in your practicing if the bike begins to slip?
Thanks!! Many benefits of learning and practicing to get your knee down...comfort with the bike, how much the bike can learn, your timing, vision, body position and timing, etc etc
WHY LEARN & PRACTICE KNEE DOWN? #1 because it’s fun!! 🤪 don’t need any other reason but if you do want to know👇🏼 #2 Learning to do this provides a way to be comfortable being uncomfortable. It teaches you how to do something that’s challenging, which can be applied to any aspect of your life. Learning and practicing full body position gives you a lot of confidence, it teaches you what your bike is capable of, you learn various levels of grip with your tires, you’ll understand how leaning causes motorcycle to slow down, so you need to slightly increase throttle the more you lean in order to maintain your speed. This is a great way to practice your vision, staying relaxed, committing to a goal, build muscle memory-you’ll learn how the timing of when and how much you move your body makes a difference in how the bike handles. You’ll discover the limitations of yourself, where your fear threshold is, where to place your weight, what’s comfortable for you, etc. If you never learn how to do this or even attempt to, you’ll never understand the difficulty and benefits it provides. Many people simply have never tried, attended a class teaching body position, or practice therefore prematurely say it’s pointless-giving an opinion about something outside your experience is just ignorant. Go practice and see for yourself. Set up a 40ft diameter circle, wear full gear, and get to it. As a reminder, I think knee dragging or any movement with your lower body is 100% unnecessary on public roads. In fact, if you followed behind me on the street, even if we are going at a good pace, I hardly move my body at all, if anything just upper body.
@@MotoJitsu Thanks for the reply. Yet, I'm still a bit puzzled - what if one goes a bit too far in this type of practice and begins to lose traction? Is there a way or technique to recover without dumping the bike in a low side crash? Thanks.
Hi there Moto Jitsu, again Excellent control, you make things look a lot easier, thank you for these great demonstrations Eddie ,your tips & advice is so valuable & Happy Riding Friend 🙂🙂🙂
Nice vid eddie! Thats nearly identical to how ive been practicing down at my local ridersafe grounds only the circles are painted and they're a little closer together. Love the new bike man, absolute beast 🤘😎👍
Hi, bit late on this one but very good videos and instruction, can i suggest doing something that talks about the inputs into the bars, pegs etc to explain how to get the bike leaned, to technically explain how would be useful. You talked about relaxing your arms but did not mention the inputs required, in particular to get the bike from one side to the other... thanks, Mark
"dedicated motorcycle range" I live on the west side of LA and ride a comparable bike ('16 Tuono 1100f) Could you let me know where this is? I need somewhere to practice. Also, I'm not worried about losing traction, but more worried about the bike tipping over - even when my rational brain knows it won't. I've seen other videos (Life at Lean) that say the human brain is wired to fear any lean over around 20º. Can you give some suggestions on how to conquer that?
This is a motorcycle training area on Camp Pendleton. Take more courses...all the ones off my website are available to you since you're in the area...take all of them. motojitsu.com
Love this video, the two biggest problems for me are, one I can't find any open area like this where i live, two I'm so worried dropping my bike which will cost a lot to repair.I really should buy a cheap bike just for practicing.
Very cool. I used to practice in parking lots as well. Killer bike, BTW. As someone else pointed out, it's hard to find a parking lot these days. Within minutes you'll have cops on top of you.
Since I will be doing the Stelvio Pass in Italy next month, I've been practicing in the rain to handle all the swtichbacks just in case it rains. Do you have any videos practicing in the rain? Knee touching circle exercises to test the limit of traction?
It's the only way the bike will make it through a corner....you're always counter steering. MotoJitsu.com for my new app, books, merch, affiliate links, courses, discounts, etc.
Does rain make this maneuver near impossible? I saw a guy saying rain has near the same friction coefficient as dry except for extreme angles. When I first started I got spooked on a hill with newer asphalt, but from your videos I learned the tire may have just been slipping a little because I wasn’t giving the right commands.
Practicing watch you preach, always good to see man. I do find a lot of inspiration to increase my skill level from your vids man . Fast Eddie for the next wolverine 2021
Another great vid bro! Just curious. Do you consciously shift between steering and counter steering for the slow to fast transitions? The reason I ask is that when I do it consciously I seem to have tighter turns with more control.
What are those detachable knee sliders? What's the proper term to search for those or any brand making them? I've been googling for half an hour and can't find any.
Good form. I think for most average riders, they need to get over the fear and become comfortable hanging half their butt off the seat and trusting that the bike and tires will do the rest.
Thanks for getting back to me. So I'm a stickler for manuals. I'm on.v4 panigale. Says 33/30 single rider and 36/42 2up. But I feel like that has to be for track riding. Feels way to low for the street
Hey Motojitsu I have a serious question.. how much did you lean before you lost traction? Do you have POV footage as a reference? How many times have you lost traction when you weere sure it was too much lean? Asking for a friend.
@@MotoJitsu How can you know when you lose traction without actually going over the edge though? I'm asking because I've felt my rear slip several times on the tires I have now. Once I felt if I was on a more powerful bike I might have high-sided in a winding forest road which could have ended badly for me... How do you learn the limit of your setup (tires/suspension/throttle/lean etc) without getting to that edge or going over it?
Btw, I also appreciate the response. I understand practice at slow speed helps to understand what you and your bike are capable of, but I don't have the opportunity to practice at moderate/higher speeds on a track so thought to seek some wisdom from someone more experienced
The main thing on the road is what is on the road surface in your corner. Tracks and parking lots you can walk but not roads, Can't tell you the number of time the "almost" happened due to gravel, sand, water, oil. But leaning!! yes please.
Eddie I have a question for u my friend. What is the minimum speed at which the centrifugal force kicks in and thus its safe to lean without counterweighin?
@@MotoJitsu Correct me if I'm wrong but following this logic, going @10mph and putting the bike at max lean angle would allow u to describe the tightest turn you can possibly do without counterbalancing. Right?
You're an inspiration, thank you for sharing this video. I have the same bike and am overly cautious about tipping over. Are you using stock tires? If not, which ones are you using?
Put some protection on the bike and go for it that's the only way you will lose that fear if you drop the bike the damage won't be that bad with protection in low speeds
Don't you think you'd achieve better turning rates with more inside body lean? After all, it's not the highest bike lean angle that helps cornering, but rather the highest overturning moment (which, of course, is the same thing without the rider or with the rider leaning the same way every time).
@@MotoJitsu Speaking of all kinds of things, I wonder if you had seen this: ua-cam.com/video/4Ov43cWkYIA/v-deo.html Granted, it's something extremely stupid to do unless you are a MotoGP rider on a MotoGP bike on, most importantly, MotoGP tires, but according to my estimation that should be the most effective way to tackle a corner. With a MotoGP bike the bike and the rider's head triangle could be made even flatter (kurbs become a huge threat though).
Bo Eddie :) You have cool glasses :) And seriouly, you're a great Baiker. Thanks for the great videos. A lot of useful information given in a cool frame :) Greatings from Poland :)
Do you guys have a schedule to practice? Can I get your email? I know there’s people commenting about sound quality. I was wondering if I can help with that.
Note not all bikes have the same throttle control or feel, I know that this bike does this would be a little more of a challenging on an FZ10 the throttle is so sensitive for me my CBR1000RR was easier
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Would have been nice to see the type and the condition of the tyres.
Great Video I fully enjoyed. Much love man.
All the way from South Africa ❤️👌🏿
Would love to try that....... but with someone else's bike
Take more courses and practice.
@Benjamin Vadocz how did he start riding without skill??
how you're suppose to get skills if you don't start riding at all? idiots...
@Benjamin Vadocz You do not need to put a knee down to ride a bike. I would hardly say its an essential skill for riders. Knowing your bike and being able to corner safely yes, getting as low as you possibly can, no, not so much.
@Benjamin Vadoczyes it is about knee down but that is still not an essential street riding technique as was mentioned.
Your videos have given me the confidence and motivation I need to get out there and practice. I used to be terrified of riding my bike to work when traffic was heavy, but now it's the best part of my day. Thank you Eddie for providing such a wonderful service out of the kindness of your heart man. Hearing someone so passionate about the safety of others really makes me glad to be a part of the motorcycle community. Keep doing what you're doing, me and the 69 thousand other people like me will always keep watching. Stay safe out there everyone
Awesome!! Thank you so much Ivan :)
I couldn’t agree more. Thank you Fast Eddie for all of your help and motivation to Shut up and practice. I ride to work everyday and most days and now before I get home I hit the local motorcycle training course for a good 10 minute blast of practice then head home. Keep up the great work.
After thirty years of riding this seems obvious, but thank you for pointing this out. We all need the fundamentals. Hopefully the newer riders are paying attention. Keep it up brother.
and more people need to practice and take more training MotoJitsu.com/courses
If you haven't done so yet, check out my website MotoJitsu.com for my app, books, discounts, etc.
Hey Eddie.
You got that Stalone in Cobra look locked down!!!!!
Lol!
😆
Just put a crash cage on my Ninja z1000sx, been practicing in a parking lot. Low sided a few times, but love the process. Getting much more confidence with the bike, tires, and traction. Thanks for the inspiration!
Awesome!
im riding a lot, got in about three years of riding a lot of kilometers on my bike, i also ride into the minus celsius degrees in winter, rain, snow, wind. but this video makes me wanna practice that too, shows me how much i still have to learn. thanks a lot and stay safe!
thanks!! :)
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You need to make a video on crash protection for the bike, because part of practice is to fail and learn a little, and personally I dont wanna scratch up my new plastics
I did..in the video of my new bike I explain what I got
@@jORDYTHEMAN1 I'm talking in general. Not everybody wants to cut and trim this and that for certain frame sliders or a crash cage. I was just saying throw out a video for newer people showing and explaining different safety products for the bike itself and where to get them from.
Hardest part about this is finding an empty parking space in Los Angeles
Go to a dedicated motorcycle range, this is where I was.
Same in the U.K., land is so expensive here that parking lots are rare, small and always full of cars and any empty lots are usually gated shut or monitored live with CCTV.
@@DJRipGroove99 i use the Trafford Centre over flow in Manchester.. empty 99% of the time... as big as two football pitches.
@@TheBrigalo Lucky! I'm about a 3 hour ride from there. I'll have to spend some time exploring places near me to see what's available.
@@DJRipGroove99 Find the nearest B&Q or any other big market and practice there when the shop is closed, e.g. 9 pm. This is what I do. Not perfect solution but always
All riders should practice this! Thanks for posting!
I hope to inspire rider to do it! two 40ft circles 20ft apart :)
Been riding for a couple years now, but never really pushed my 748 or my R6 even close to their limits. My biggest fear right now is getting an understanding for when traction gets lost during cornering, because even though I've learned all the "signs," such as gravel, rough throttle, tight on the bars, too much lean, etc., my knowledge is only "in theory" but not in practice. I'm never sure "how much" of those things is where the threshold is, so I feel like I sell myself short going into turns. I'm afraid to really hone in and take a risk by taking a corner fast and leaning hard. How do I really test that threshold out? Once your wheel gives out, your wheel gives out, and you crash. How do you experiment with thresholds that make you crash without... crashing? I'd really love to get over that fear step by step but am trying to stay upright as well, lol.
Thanks so much for the content!
Go practice in the dirt, you'll learn how to go in and out of traction and not freak out.
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@@MotoJitsu This is awesome. Thanks so much man.
The set up is two 40ft circles, 20ft apart. Go practice! Thanks for watching SUBSCRIBE!! MotoJitsu.com
Hello can you make video hot ride motorcycle for beginners in first time brother
I have no idea what that means.
I want you learn me how i can ride sport motorcycle in first time in video
Take a course.
When
Love coming back to these older videos. Reminds me to keep practicing.
awesome video, can you share the diameter of the cones to practice? where do you get these knee pucks, i am finding for such pucks for long but cant find them.......
Thanks, I had two 40ft circles 40ft apart I think
@@MotoJitsu This was my question too, thanks, parking lots nice and empty these days.
hand down one of the best motorcycle channels ever.
Thanks!! Keep sharing! motojitsu.com
Great video. It’s very easy to run off the edge of the tyre. Years ago on a track day. I was going well and getting both knees down & a mate of mine was surprised. I said it was easy . Unfortunately I got carried away with my self confidence and tried to get my elbow down like Marquez. Unfortunately as I went for it I opened the throttle ( unintentionally) and spun up the back wheel. I went sprawling across the track . I managed to pick the bike up & get to the pits to a chorus of mates cheering and laughing. 🤣🤣🤣🤣👍.
This man is the absolute GOAT motorcycle safety/tip youtube instructor. JORDAN...BRADY...MOTOJITSU.
Thanks!!! lol share with others
You have tamed that bike already. Nice work. Prettiest riding I’ve seen.
Wait til next month :)
Fast Ed.. You have hair now. This videos are solid gold for me, so much more confidence. Thanks again
Sure do!
The XR gets pretty hot when practicing now that it's hotter. Getting a brentune this week that kicks the fan on at 185, right now the bike gets up to 220 during parking lot drills.
sweet!
I've got a Kawasaki Versys, I've leaned it to peg-scraping angles(about 55°), while hanging off the bike, but I've never got knee down. I think the geomtry of it rules it out... I would have to be entirely out of the seat(not just cheek off) to be able to get my knee out and down enough to hit the ground before the footpeg.
Then you're doing something wrong.
The issue is probably at your ankle.
You are likely pushing 'through' your foot.
As though trying to fold your shin flat into your foot.
Your inside ankle wants to be free and unloaded on the peg.
2nd gear? did you use use rare brakes? do you push the outer peg while cornering? counter-steering and throttle control for support. right?
2nd. No rear brake. Not pushing outside peg. Counter steering always happens.
Should I be practicing leaning that far on stock tires or should I wait till I wear them out and replace them with better ones? Btw, thanks a bunch for the videos. Inspiring.
Practice with what you got.
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Hi MotoJitsu. Thanks for all the instructional videos. I’m just wondering. Isn’t it super hard to feel the limits without crashing?
Seems like you have to be super experienced too feel the limit?
Is there any ways to know the limits without crashing? (Even on a parking lot).
Yes you have to be experienced to feel out the limits...just like anything...a new rider or new anything doesn’t know much
These videos give me so much motivation to go out and slowly practice and practice to make such kind of turns soon. I will shut-up and practice today. I have the time today!
Nice! Let me know how practice goes!
@@MotoJitsu Thanks. Today's practice was not so good. I was not able to pass the white-belt lessons and got a bit nervous at times on right-side turns. strange. I have done better in the past. I shall keep practicing. Thanks!!! One thing i learnt, not to be over confident and just to shut-up and practice daily.
Eddie, this is Luis the owner of the 1290 super duke r from the ARC1 which Lee taught a few weeks back! Great videos! Congratulations!
I identified that one thing that was hindering my ability to just trust and fully implement the skills I learned that day was my fear to drop such and expensive bike, so I went and got myself a drz400 just to practice!
One thing that I regret I didn’t t ask you guys was: When leaning (turning) left for example and considering I am trying to do the correct posture showed in class, how much of my weight should be in the inside pegs and how much on the outside leg “bracing” the tank. Since I’m trying to do keep my grip as light as possible and my elbows low (as instructed by Dave), it is still a little unclear on how the weight distribution during the lean since the legs do most of the work right? Could you talk a little about that pls?
Sweet!! Sweet bike!! Whatever weight shifts onto you feet from the proper body position is what goes there...there's not a %. No need to think about legs at what pressure is on what peg....more so to practice moving your butt back and turning your chin, shoulders, and hips into the turn. I have videos/pictures of me riding my old DRZ you can compare. I have them on my website, motojitsu.com look in the gallery.
How does this translate to higher speed like what would be found on road riding? Obviously your suspension is under different levels of load the faster you go, wouldn’t the level of grip you have decrease with speed?
can't keep control of your bike at slower speeds, won't have much control at faster.
Eddie man what are you doing with your throttle hand when leaned over all the way do you maintain the gas, or coast through the corner till you pick it back up. My problem is I got the body position, but once I start to lean over I get this choppy felling in the bike I don't know if I'm supposed to be maintaining speed at the highest lean angle or back off throttle I've heard conflicting advice.
The choppy feeling is you...never the bike. You have to twist the throttle to maintain your speed after you've leaned over...at 0% throttle you'll just keep slowing down.
Thank you for the reply back been learning a ton from you! 8 year rider here, and just realizing I had so much to learn when I saw you putting a knee down on a gs 1200 you definitely know what your doing! Also follow up question on throttle hand is there a way you can make a video showing us what your hand is doing through a corner I think that would help us all a ton I have some friend who can benefit from your videos they see me getting closer to putting my knee down, and I keep sending them links to your videos. Just a question I know that most of all the work is in your right hand why I ask if you could.
I have videos showing my throttle hand...but the main thing is formal training and your own practice on your bike. MotoJitsu.com/courses
@@MotoJitsu thank you I'll be doing my first track day this weekend, and I got the N2 track day membership so I can get someone to coach me through the steps of it, and get to a new level of confidence your videos help build that up still got a ways to go, but I'll definitely keep practicing, and look out for classes near me I'm in GA or I'd attend one of your events!
Have fun!!
Hey Fast Eddie, did you put any crash protection on your new bike yet? Do you lower your psi for these type of drills?
Yup & yup.
Thanks for the video from a new first time rider. So, hope this is not too stupid a question, but what is the point of placing the knee out wide? is it so that if you fall your leg won't be trapped under the bike? Also, I don't understand how you can tell the limits of the bike lean. You obviously don't want to dump your bike (BMW?)..and what do you do in your practicing if the bike begins to slip?
Thanks!! Many benefits of learning and practicing to get your knee down...comfort with the bike, how much the bike can learn, your timing, vision, body position and timing, etc etc
WHY LEARN & PRACTICE KNEE DOWN?
#1 because it’s fun!! 🤪 don’t need any other reason but if you do want to know👇🏼
#2 Learning to do this provides a way to be comfortable being uncomfortable. It teaches you how to do something that’s challenging, which can be applied to any aspect of your life. Learning and practicing full body position gives you a lot of confidence, it teaches you what your bike is capable of, you learn various levels of grip with your tires, you’ll understand how leaning causes motorcycle to slow down, so you need to slightly increase throttle the more you lean in order to maintain your speed. This is a great way to practice your vision, staying relaxed, committing to a goal, build muscle memory-you’ll learn how the timing of when and how much you move your body makes a difference in how the bike handles. You’ll discover the limitations of yourself, where your fear threshold is, where to place your weight, what’s comfortable for you, etc. If you never learn how to do this or even attempt to, you’ll never understand the difficulty and benefits it provides. Many people simply have never tried, attended a class teaching body position, or practice therefore prematurely say it’s pointless-giving an opinion about something outside your experience is just ignorant. Go practice and see for yourself. Set up a 40ft diameter circle, wear full gear, and get to it. As a reminder, I think knee dragging or any movement with your lower body is 100% unnecessary on public roads. In fact, if you followed behind me on the street, even if we are going at a good pace, I hardly move my body at all, if anything just upper body.
@@MotoJitsu Thanks for the reply. Yet, I'm still a bit puzzled - what if one goes a bit too far in this type of practice and begins to lose traction? Is there a way or technique to recover without dumping the bike in a low side crash? Thanks.
@@Yodaismycopilot Happens too fast, probably won't have time to do much of anything, go practice.
@@MotoJitsu How would one learn the limits of the bike without losing traction during "practice?"
the confidence is priceless
:)
Hi there Moto Jitsu, again Excellent control, you make things look a lot easier, thank you for these great demonstrations Eddie ,your tips & advice is so valuable & Happy Riding Friend 🙂🙂🙂
Thanks :)
Nice vid eddie! Thats nearly identical to how ive been practicing down at my local ridersafe grounds only the circles are painted and they're a little closer together. Love the new bike man, absolute beast 🤘😎👍
Thanks
Hi, bit late on this one but very good videos and instruction, can i suggest doing something that talks about the inputs into the bars, pegs etc to explain how to get the bike leaned, to technically explain how would be useful. You talked about relaxing your arms but did not mention the inputs required, in particular to get the bike from one side to the other... thanks, Mark
I have an entire playlist about high speed cornering where I explain each of those things :)
Can you advise the do's and don't after new tires replacement.
I have a few videos on how to break them in
do u stop the throttle when leaning or only throttle when u want to make your bike stand up
I have lots of videos regarding the throttle & cornering
MCRider did a great video on lean angle.
Ok
Hey, you need a windsock for the mic, adjust the sound, there are some good youtube vid's of how to reduce wind noise. Good luck from Liverpool U.K.
Eh, just go practice...that's the point of the video :)
"dedicated motorcycle range" I live on the west side of LA and ride a comparable bike ('16 Tuono 1100f) Could you let me know where this is? I need somewhere to practice. Also, I'm not worried about losing traction, but more worried about the bike tipping over - even when my rational brain knows it won't. I've seen other videos (Life at Lean) that say the human brain is wired to fear any lean over around 20º. Can you give some suggestions on how to conquer that?
This is a motorcycle training area on Camp Pendleton. Take more courses...all the ones off my website are available to you since you're in the area...take all of them. motojitsu.com
Love this video, the two biggest problems for me are, one I can't find any open area like this where i live, two I'm so worried dropping my bike which will cost a lot to repair.I really should buy a cheap bike just for practicing.
Practice on the bike you have...buy protection for it and take courses to learn how.
Nice, I have a lot close by that is always empty this size. I am going to go out there next weekend and do some of this.
Make sure it’s clean
Very cool. I used to practice in parking lots as well. Killer bike, BTW. As someone else pointed out, it's hard to find a parking lot these days. Within minutes you'll have cops on top of you.
Thanks...yes but this is a dedicated motorcycle range for classes on a military base.
Lucky man.
Since I will be doing the Stelvio Pass in Italy next month, I've been practicing in the rain to handle all the swtichbacks just in case it rains. Do you have any videos practicing in the rain? Knee touching circle exercises to test the limit of traction?
No videos
Awesome ! Thanks so much for sharing! This is exactly what I need to practice
You're welcome!
what gear were you in and how fast were you going?
Don’t remember
Man I still don't get how you get so low, are you counter steering when you dive into the corner?
It's the only way the bike will make it through a corner....you're always counter steering.
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@@MotoJitsu wow appreciate the fast reply, giving you a sub. I'll check out more of your stuff, stay safe.
thanks :)
Does rain make this maneuver near impossible? I saw a guy saying rain has near the same friction coefficient as dry except for extreme angles.
When I first started I got spooked on a hill with newer asphalt, but from your videos I learned the tire may have just been slipping a little because I wasn’t giving the right commands.
No, it’s not impossible
Practicing watch you preach, always good to see man. I do find a lot of inspiration to increase my skill level from your vids man . Fast Eddie for the next wolverine 2021
Exactly!
Another great vid bro! Just curious. Do you consciously shift between steering and counter steering for the slow to fast transitions? The reason I ask is that when I do it consciously I seem to have tighter turns with more control.
No...direct and counter steering happen without thinking about it...especially with this type of body position.
What are those detachable knee sliders? What's the proper term to search for those or any brand making them? I've been googling for half an hour and can't find any.
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Good form. I think for most average riders, they need to get over the fear and become comfortable hanging half their butt off the seat and trusting that the bike and tires will do the rest.
In order to do that, take higher level motorcycle courses and go and practice like I'm doing.
Hi Eddie,
beautiful videi, so the external shoulder should be over the tank of the bike ?
Thanks
Bye from Italy
Thanks...I was experimenting with body position...all depends on what type of corner you're doing, the speed, your comfort level and preference.
How big are the circles and how many feet apart?
Also I need a "Shut up and practice" shirt! Lol
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@mojistu is 2nd gear ok to do that even on a litre bike? whats the best comfortable gear for a litre bike?
I did it in 2nd
As always amazing useful instructional content. What is a good cold tire preasure for a sport bike. I'm 6ft 230lbs
Look at the owners manual
Thanks for getting back to me. So I'm a stickler for manuals. I'm on.v4 panigale. Says 33/30 single rider and 36/42 2up. But I feel like that has to be for track riding. Feels way to low for the street
They don't give "track riding" pressure
Got it. Thank you!
33.4 Front / 30 Rear. Seems awfully low. But I will give it a go. Thanks again!
Hey Motojitsu I have a serious question.. how much did you lean before you lost traction? Do you have POV footage as a reference? How many times have you lost traction when you weere sure it was too much lean? Asking for a friend.
I didn't loose traction, I didn't even get the very edge of my tire.
@@MotoJitsu How can you know when you lose traction without actually going over the edge though? I'm asking because I've felt my rear slip several times on the tires I have now. Once I felt if I was on a more powerful bike I might have high-sided in a winding forest road which could have ended badly for me...
How do you learn the limit of your setup (tires/suspension/throttle/lean etc) without getting to that edge or going over it?
Btw, I also appreciate the response. I understand practice at slow speed helps to understand what you and your bike are capable of, but I don't have the opportunity to practice at moderate/higher speeds on a track so thought to seek some wisdom from someone more experienced
May start to slide a bit...how? You take high level courses and practice what you were taught.
If you can't go to a track you won't discover what the limits are.
The main thing on the road is what is on the road surface in your corner. Tracks and parking lots you can walk but not roads, Can't tell you the number of time the "almost" happened due to gravel, sand, water, oil. But leaning!! yes please.
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Eddie I have a question for u my friend. What is the minimum speed at which the centrifugal force kicks in and thus its safe to lean without counterweighin?
10 or so
@@MotoJitsu Does that mean that I would be able to safely practice hanging off the bike and putting it at max angle at at 10mph?
@@danieljimenez3453 Obviously not. The faster you go through the same turn, say a 40ft diameter circle, the more the bike must lean to make the turn.
@@MotoJitsu Correct me if I'm wrong but following this logic, going @10mph and putting the bike at max lean angle would allow u to describe the tightest turn you can possibly do without counterbalancing. Right?
You're an inspiration, thank you for sharing this video.
I have the same bike and am overly cautious about tipping over. Are you using stock tires? If not, which ones are you using?
Stock tires..just got Q4's
I want to do this slow speed knee down drill but man its not easy. More practicing!
Put some protection on the bike and go for it that's the only way you will lose that fear if you drop the bike the damage won't be that bad with protection in low speeds
Prrraaccttiiicceee :)
Front or rear brakes to slow in this drill?
I was only using the front...but I could have just as easily used the rear for these speeds...no right or wrong.
Okay got it haha. Wanted to confirm so i could try it in training on Saturday.
The main thing isn't the brakes but get comfortable with your bike. Could just not use any brakes either.
Definitely gonna try this ! Subbed
Go practice!
Don't you think you'd achieve better turning rates with more inside body lean? After all, it's not the highest bike lean angle that helps cornering, but rather the highest overturning moment (which, of course, is the same thing without the rider or with the rider leaning the same way every time).
This is an experiment with body position, I was trying out all kinds of things.
@@MotoJitsu Speaking of all kinds of things, I wonder if you had seen this: ua-cam.com/video/4Ov43cWkYIA/v-deo.html
Granted, it's something extremely stupid to do unless you are a MotoGP rider on a MotoGP bike on, most importantly, MotoGP tires, but according to my estimation that should be the most effective way to tackle a corner. With a MotoGP bike the bike and the rider's head triangle could be made even flatter (kurbs become a huge threat though).
Those are some cool shades you have. What make and model are they? Ray-Ban???
Ray Ban P
Great vid like always! Stay safe Bruddah!
Thanks! You too!
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with a long ride, do not heat very much the engine and the hot air goes to the seat?
Nothing about what you said makes sense to me...can you re-word what you're trying to say?
@@MotoJitsu doesn't the air go to the feet from the engine?
nice hair man, this look rocks with shades
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Different road surfaces are also a factor for a traction.
Of course
Great experience/educational video. Keep it up!👍🤙
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What gear were you in? 2nd?
Yes...but I practice this in 1st & 2nd
It's the downforce from that blue helmet wing gives limitless traction.
exactly
Wicked Cool! Good Stuff Bro!! Getting Nice nd Comfy I see. Nice. Cheers!
Thanks!
I want more video's of you leaning in Soft tails those are Fun LOL
I have a playlist of me riding 35+ different bikes :)
Have you tried the japanese style u turn with the swerve and flop? ...looks fun 👍
Yup
Bo Eddie :) You have cool glasses :) And seriouly, you're a great Baiker. Thanks for the great videos. A lot of useful information given in a cool frame :) Greatings from Poland :)
Thanks!
I know it's a rocky question .. but are you steering or countersteering there? .... awesome channel btw , subscribed and keep going ✌
I'm always counter steering...most people always are they're just not aware of it.
Yup definitely practicing that next time I head out
Hell yeah!
Rob Thomas and Carlos Santana played in my head watching that - “Smooth”
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Is this the SOI range? If so, I painted the dots on there circa 2011 or so 😂
Eddie, it was a pleasure meeting you today. I regret I wasn't able to practice with you. Maybe next time you are in the area.
Good to meet you too!
I watched a video a second ago with gymkhana, think it was in Japan, they don't lean at all and those bikes lean over more than a MotoGP, it's insane.
You can counterweight and lean to the edge of the bike's possibility, they're also not going 80mph dragging elbow :)
Hey, what bike is this? It seems nice
2018 BMW S1000R
@@MotoJitsu Alright thanks
@@jxllsii8366 you're welcome
so... what are those knee sliders called. they seem soo good without having to get full leathers.
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Liking he videos guys. I’m in SoCal. Would love to get out there and practice with you guys. Get some pointers.
Come on out!
Do you guys have a schedule to practice? Can I get your email? I know there’s people commenting about sound quality. I was wondering if I can help with that.
@@nathanaelsiahaan9171 There's not....all my contact info is on my website.
Whenever im riding, pretty hard to get my knee down, how do i overcome that fear. I got no problem doing it on small track.
How to overcome fear of anything is always more time practicing. Take more higher level courses and put in the time.
Getting your knee down on the open road often means inadvisable speeds.
You have great skills Eddie!!
Courses and practice!
Note not all bikes have the same throttle control or feel, I know that this bike does this would be a little more of a challenging on an FZ10 the throttle is so sensitive for me my CBR1000RR was easier
The bike doesn't matter...ua-cam.com/video/o5Qkan3rmEA/v-deo.html One of those is a V4S.
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WHAT IS THE MINIMUM SPEED FOR BEGINNER IN WHICH WE CAN TOUCH KNEE DOWN SAFELY WHILE PRACTICING AND DONT NEED TO WORRY ABOUT ANYTHING.
A beginner should never try knee down
K, but whats the point or benefits of putting your knee down though?
I have multiple videos about the benefits but one of the most important reasons is it’s simply fun. Does there need to be anything more than that?
When you figure out how far off the seat you can be, the knee can be a good gauge of how close to your traction limits you are
It means your body position is good, you’re leaning way off the bike so the bike itself doesn’t have to lean as much
Excellent video, thank you.
Thanks!
Smoooooth; transitions a thing to behold.
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This is very good informative video bro 😉... keep on doing the best stuff you can bro 👍
Thanks!
Great practice!
Thanks!
What a coincidence, that is where I was practicing the white and blue belt material a few weeks ago.
Nice!
Hard to find these big open places where i live
What gear were you on mate?
2
Practice does pay off,you're a really good rider imo ofcourse
Courses and practice ;)
Plain awesome. Thank you.
Thanks!