Avoid These Common Knee Dragging Mistakes
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
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Can you do this technique on a higher cc bike though? Let's say a versys 650/1000?
@@horaceroy4370 bike doesn't matter
MotoJitsu® thanks! Was just trying to clarify haha! Your videos are very educational, you sir gained a sub! :D
I think these videos are much more fun to watch then people doing wheelies and stuff .. this makes safer riders! .. keep up the great work !
thanks!
Stunt riding is a great way to learn the limits of traction and just general bike control but yes, basics are basics and theyre important
Can Greg wheelie?
Thats because you cant wheelie but you can pretend to be fast
agreed!
it is so frustrating that channels like this has fewer subscribers and views than wheelies and speeding channels.....you do a great job man, and keep the videos coming!
thanks
Channels like this, Canyon Chasers, Moto Trek, etc. don't ever get the views they deserve.
I'm so jealous of the parkinglots you have over there lol
This is a dedicated motorcycle training area on Marine base Camp Pendelton
MotoJitsu absolutely more jealous of that jaja
@@MotoJitsu Do you get access because you're an instructor or because you're prior service?
Also, Thank you for this. I did the old MSF courses years ago, and after about 5 years with only a bike and no car I became "the fastest person I knew" (Danger danger danger) till I took Jason Pridmore's STAR track school and realized how slow and awkward I really was. (and my body position was EXACTLY what you called out as the most common mistake) I'm now 41, a re-entry rider, and was going to hit Reg's CLASS school to start correcting. Do you think it would be a better idea to run through the Total Control schools first? And if so, for someone who's just up in Ventura, once the plague is over, would any total control school be good, or might there be a benefit to bipping down the 5 and taking one in SD with your crew?
Thanks for all the great info. You're saving lives =)
@@jamesbarros950 Being an instructor doesn't get you access unless you teach on base and have a pass. I was in the Marines 11 years so I have a VA card that gets me access and someone who's active duty can just get me on too by sponsoring me...literally coming on base with me saying he's with me and I just show my drivers license. I also recommend the Total Control courses, Intermediate Riding Clinic & Advanced Riding Clinics 1 & 2.
@@MotoJitsu Nice spot. Up here in Orange County, almost all the parking lots around are slippery slurry coated which makes for less than ideal grip. Found one big concrete loading dock area behind a big store where grip is good and got my knee down for the first time.
At 11.33 you even see moto- journalists in bike magazines doing this, and these guys ride bikes for a living. You see people throw their hips over but their head & shoulders are still inboard. I love the calm way in which you educate without hurting people's feelings as lord knows we've all made these errors.
thanks
Hey man, Just finished my first successful city/traffic ride today and I just wanna give you thanks. Followed all your advice and techniques and it worked like magic. Just rode my scooter which isnt much but hey the ride is all that matters.
Keep up the good work man,
Respect, all the way from the Philippines
Awesome
I remember commenting a while back about the anxiety of uphill stops and slow speed turns, practiced your videos a lot and now onto this, thanks a million for helping us all out!
How do you only have 122k subs? You're a god. Thanks for all the videos you make!
Slowly gaining more :)
its like FortNine he eventually gets more ;) youtube is always weird
It’s sad. I’ve asked myself the same question many times. All this content, and knowledge that he’s spitting out, everyone on two wheels should be subscribed to his channel and should be watching his videos religiously. Either they don’t know about him (doubt it), they watch the videos and haven’t subscribed (haters not showing love), or riders believe they are as, or more talented than he is and won’t watch his videos. Those that want to learn and want to be safer, and better riders will do so by doing whatever it takes. Mr. Widmar makes it easy to learn with his tutorials. They are cheat sheets. If you listen and follow the lessons to the tee, then we will improve our skills steadily. It doesn’t affect me at all whether he has subs or not, but reading comments like yours makes me hopeful he will continue to pump out knowledge. I’m hoping he won’t stop because his channel isn’t growing. I can’t imagine the time, money, and effort it takes him to do this for the riding community. Whoever is reading this, spread the love.
It's because stupidity hates knowledge 😂
This is exactly the explanation that I need.
I’m focussing on this in practice just to have a better body position.
This is not something that I plan to do on the road.
Thx!
Still too much snow here...
I’m glad! I think it’ll help a lot of people
You have one of the best motorcycle training and safety channels on UA-cam. I've been riding 35 years and have picked up a few things from you.
Thanks! Get into more training!! MotoJitsu.com/courses
I've been riding 50 years. That means nothing I say that just means I have reinforced my bad habits for a long time!
i have learned so much from you and since one month i am trying to learn knee down. This video was very very helpful. I realized many of my mistakes from this video. Plus watching your techniques gives me confidence to practice more because now i know right technique just gotta practice more!
Great to hear!
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It's so satisfying to watch you sliding the knee and doing the transitions..... I really want to to it too, so I'll be working on it ! thank you for all your explanations !
you're welcome!
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4:22 that’s my new dance move
😂
I dying :''''D
This is the clearest explanation on how to get a good body position when cornering. Thank you so much!
Thanks! Share it!!!!
I have been struggling with body position on the track, this helped out a ton. I was too far up and would rotate around the tank destabilizing my lower body. Sitting all the way back, fixed the problem. Back to parking lot practice we go.
Awesome!
I got my first bike 4 days ago, this is a great explanation to start with.
Thanks bro!
👌🏼😁
Excellent video my man. Lee Parks would be proud! I've been riding for 35 years. I've travelled all over the country and I've spent weeks in the Appalachians, the Dragon, I spent a week in the Rockies hunting the best roads, I've regularly done the canyons in California, Arizona, Utah and I thought I was pretty good. I took Total Control and I couldn't believe what bad habits I discovered that I had developed over the years. My personal biggest issue was moving into position too late for the turn and upsetting the chassis. I didn't even realize I was doing it. TC was the single best training day I've ever done, it's fun and I don't care how good you think you are, it will challenge you. I think everyone that rides on the road should take this course. Your video just made me want to go practice. Thanks for the video.
Thanks!
Yeah, like the comments below, I was stuck in operation centers in ME/CA and watching your videos got me back into riding whilst on vacation. Much appreciated. And to speak about other content providers discussing whether teaching people how to position their body and how to get their knee and elbow down, I am guessing that being a prior Marine and learning how to shoot to the full extent of the rifle and cartridge to attain one's inherent potential (Rogers, Fromm). Now you teach people how to ride to their fullest potential...in a parking lot while encouraging people to do track days. Kudos.
Thanks so much MotoJitsu for all the videos and tips. I found you 15,000kms ago, with my new 125cc (no experience), now, with my Honda VT600C, I feel so comfortable riding.
You're welcome!
You Sir are a complete God.
Not because you can get your knee down.., but because of your fantastic manner through the video. When I first started watching, the mirror sunnies, hoodie and your reading from the paper in your hand made me wonder if you were going to be a bit flash.
But your coaching ability and presentation were incredible.
So calm.
So comfortable.
So inspiring.
Very good work young sir.., sharing with all my friends so they can hopefully enjoy as much as I did
This man looks like he can help you to pass your exam and teach you stunts at the same time lol. Good stuff, I've been watching your videos for a while now. Can you upload cruiser motorcycle specific videos?
Thanks! Share it with others :) My videos apply to all bikes.
I read some of your fan comments and I see I am perhaps an expert rider. I still gain knowledge from your videos. Thanks
lol
You are just a Sensei of motorcyles and riders... thank you so much bro !
thanks!
Thanks again! You have an excellent way of explaining things.. what you said about getting your body position setup the right way first was key for me. I can now get my knee down on any bike even cruisers just like you 🦾
Glad it was helpful!
Love these tips. I've never practised doing these at low speed but stupidly did it quite a lot at high speeds and almost touched my knee to the ground. It felt brilliant but it scared the shit out of me at the same time, mainly because I didn't really know how I did it. Like that saying, trying to run before you can walk. There's good and bad with that, it's like doing something by feeling, which is good, but having no understanding of how you did it, that's bad and could be super dangerous.
And when you mentioned the disconnect, that reminds me of people who say that they're animal lovers, while stuffing their faces with a bacon sandwich. The disconnect with the supply and demand problem of the meat & dairy industry.
Yes I don't recommending practicing this unless you take high level courses.
Fantastic video. I watch it dozens of times before I go out to practice. I seem to have a problem getting my speed up. (I'm an old chicken.) I think I have way too much tension in my arms and hands which I am trying to relax as I do this. I'm trying to focus on holding myself on the bike with just my legs and relaxing my hands/arms. You make it look really easy. My vision and body position are good. My big problem is getting my speed up without causing my backside to pucker.
These videos never get old. watching two years later and it still very informative
Thanks Eddie for the vids...this will be hard to believe but I watch your vids religiously and bought your books doing drills. when I got to learning in knee-drags... I did it within 30mins .... I have sent you a few of my vids on insta doing drills.... thank u so much.. my throttle control is nuts and upper body my relaxed... will send u another vid soon. And happy birthday by the way ahahaha..
thanks!
Great video. I race on the ice, and have been struggling to gain speed, especially in corners. This video will help me try to bring the supermoto world, on the ice. Traction is very good with the tires we run, so i think i can pull this off.
thanks
I'll say this is one of the best videos I've seen on YT on the subject, you emphasize technique, then results. Other videos I've seen just say get off the bike more.
I am hopeful that I can do this...I get confidence watching your videos. I have learned so much already. This video is awesome...i'm slowly building toward this goal of doin' it right.
Take a course that teaches it then go out and practice in an area with good grip on a warm day :)
Thanks, Greg. Very informative. I find it interesting, and curious, as to why so many riders (myself included) are so much more comfortable with left radius circles than right-hand ones. I asked my MSF instructor at an advanced rider course the same question and he could not answer it. My guess is that we, as riders, tend to tense up too much on the throttle side, which lends itself to making right-hand radius circles more difficult to perform/master. Interested to know your thoughts. Thanks.
I found it’s usually because when you want to go right, you push right. But you can also pull left, it does the same thing, correct? So if you push right to initial a right hand turn, your hand also may add or release the throttle a bit. So your right hand is doing two jobs, steering and throttle/brake control. Whenever I go right, I pull left. That leaves my right hand to only worry about one thing vs two.
44 yrs of riding and I still learn from you. I am a safe driver, never crashed. I took safety courses in the military. But I am learning how to go faster and still be safe from you. Thanks. Free courses haha
:) nice!
Keep up your work! It's easy to understand even in a foreign language and helps me to avoid some stupidity I've done again and again over the years. Greetings from Black Forest. Ride safe and stay healthy!
thanks!
Great tutorial. You’re absolutely right about the three common mistakes that people make, because I see it all the time, one of which I was guilty of when I was first learning. 🤙🏽
Good to see there is training space there at the 22/23 area of Pendleton. Watching you film this video is bringing back a lot of memories from that place (good and bad 😅).
:)
Hi there MotoJitsu, that's a great goal or milestone to achieve, the figure eight, I can also see,theres a lot of aspects to getting the knee down correctly, thank you again friend 🙂🙂🙂
Many variables and lots of practice :)
You are a great coach sir. I appreciate it
Thanks
You are doing great job for all young and old riders! Thanks, guys from Poland are watching You either and learnig with all Your video courses! Take care never stop! :-)
Thanks! 😃 Keep sharing til I surpass 1,000,000 subscribers!! :)
@@MotoJitsu Will do mate, will do! 😉
Another great video, Greg. Your channel has for me become the go-to for motorcycling instruction and tips, whether basic or advanced. One ask, though: would you consider using a remote microphone attached to your body, to get better audio? An easy way is to record the audio into your phone and sync it up with the video in post. This would work well for you as most of your work is done in a single take.
thanks!
Cool teacher! You are the best . Thank you very much for your teaching.
Thanks 😊
Got my knee down after hours of frustration at the parking lot taday. That first time it touched was awesome, then it touched again. Some time later I could get it to slide continuously, then I learned going to the right. I set up a smaller circle and got to the point of doing figure 8s with my butt all the way off the bike still at this point. I tried half a butt cheek off and it felt more controlled, although I had to lean the bike a little more. I wen't from not being able to do it at all to sliding figure 8s in a single day, thanks to your videos!
Awesome video. Why? It offers great advice on HOW to practice, not just WHAT to practice. The learning process is iterative, and so when the training matches that it REALLY helps. "just go left, go slow, don't expect your knee to get down right away, etc.. etc.. etc.." Beautiful.
Thanks :)
I really enjoyed this ! Thanks
Thank you so much for this video, I've had these concepts in my head but feel unable to get to the bp I need. I am overconfident with lean angle and this put things into perspective. Appreciated
You're welcome!
Thank you so much for all the plug in. You are so detailed. 👍🏽
You're welcome
I love your videos, I've learned a lot, and learned a lot of things to practice. So much more interesting watching videos to learn the right way to ride, than fast highway pulls, and wheelies. That's just stupid.
You re a great teacher. Cheers, thanks and all the best. John
thanks
Great video Eddie! Thumbs UP for that PaveLow in the air adding value!
thanks!
A friend of mine advised me to, when leaning, to pressure the peg opposite to the direction of lean, in order to gain more traction. So, for example, if you lean left hard, you pressure the right peg hard and the left one lightly. He told me this is REALLY important when riding in the rain, but also works in good weather conditions.
Can you confirm this ?
It’s personal preference if that’s what you like sure but I found it to be a waste of energy and pointless. I don’t do anything with my outside leg
@@MotoJitsu So where do you hold your own weight ? Do you just hang loose and pressure both pegs equally ?
On the street, nothing I don’t my lower body at all
this helps me so much. I have been riding 20mph and tried so hard to get knee down! I guess I lean the bike too much and low sided couple times. it seems I need a little more speed while maintenaning the circle. I will get some cones and start trying again.
Need better body position most likely
@@MotoJitsu wow thanks for responding. which level of Patreon can send you some photos/videos for some feedback? I think I need some advising instead of trying it out myself. I may never get it right without masters help. And this panic is killing my opportunity to register for courses, everywhere is closed.
thanks for the detail explanation, I could understand the body position much better now.
awesome!
Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge and experience. Much appreciated.
My pleasure!
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How do we adjust the direction (diameter of circle/ arch) while in the circle? Do we counter steer ? Add more lean ? Shift more weight inside ?
either one...there's no wrong. All 3 could work.
4;04 i was doing that today while practicing in the lot. As I set my body up like you told me in another lean video, it actually caused the bike to lean a lot less because I’m not pushing the bike down today. I was trying to get the bike lower by keeping myself up right and pushing the bike down. But after watching your other lean video, I got my body set the way you showed me, and my body was turned in, leaned off, head over, arms down and relaxed esc esc, and the bike was way up then, I’m having the curve good but with body leaned in and over the bike was hardly even leaned. But I worked and worked and started getting the bike leaning with me with more speed (Amd I tightened my circle) and finally got more lean today than I have yet. And my knee was almost touching, even tho the bike wasn’t even leaned that far it seemed
the idea with full body position is to lean the bike as little as possible for the given speed & radius
Awesome. I've still not gotten my knee down for the first time. I've been working on the fundamentals. I hope i haven't lost too much technique by spring. Don't want to spend the whole season getting back to where i was at the end of fall.
Practice what I say in the video :)
Thanks for the video and explanation fast Eddie!
You're welcome!
Hi, Eddy Where is your weight on when the motorcycle is leaned ? On the inside peg or you keep your self pushing the outside leg against the tank? or boh? Sorry for my English :)
Mostly on the seat & inside peg none on the outside
Man, that was really helpfull. I was the guy with the shoulders pointing the wrong way for sure. Thanks Eddie!
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Every day there is a small change in me, which I can feel. Never a day Greg! Never a friggin day goes without!
exactly right!
I've been riding for 25 years 16 of which on the road , I struggle big time with touching my knee down, I can keep up with my friends in the corners whilst there knees are scratching the floor but I just can not touch down. I've managed it maybe twice for a split second. Im 5.7 and initially blamed my size all my pals are 5'10+ with long legs but I know its my technique. You make it look so easy. I can wheelie, stopie, jump but Knee down is driving me nuts. Im picking up my new bike in 3 x days ,once it has crash protection im going to use these techniques. I believe im twisting as im going down trying to hang off.
It's a tool...doesn't mean you need it (body position) for every turn or ride. It's a track tool but it's fun to practice it at lower speeds. I don't knee drag or move my lower body at all anymore on the street...just not necessary....track days, of course. Height doesn't matter....and it is easy for me, been doing this for 6 years now...and I can on any bike within minutes. Have you taken a class that teaches this?
@@MotoJitsu Thanks for your reply. I havent no but I have looked into a training course since watching your video and will probably do that. I believe I'm twisting and not being relaxed, trying to get off the bike as much as possible but messing everything up when doing so. I need to perfect the technique with lots of practice. Your videos have given me lots of tips tonight , thankyou ,I'm looking forward to putting them into use. I'll definitely be subscribing 👍
Thanks :)
You need to look at Mick Doohan's style mate, shoulders central, bike tipped in, never had his head over the side of the bike, he would pivot the bike between his legs more so at slow speeds.
I wish you was located in New York.
I would happily pay for your service and knowledge. But I guess watching your videos will do for me.
Thank You Sir!
Oh and I'm going on the 28th for my
license wish me luck.
But I am confident enough cause of you....THANK YOU THANK YOU..
You're welcome!
As someone with no friends that ride. I’m left to figure it out on my own.
Thanks for the videos.
You will
Great videos, man! Thanks for the advice and keep it up.
Thanks:)
Love your teaching
감사합니다.
Excellent demonstration! The best way to make sure you get it right, is to know what you are not supposed to do. I wonder what sort of lean angle you roughly have at 13:47?
Thanks! I have no idea lol
Easy enough to estimate by eye. The camera looks to be level based on the background. So somewhere around the 45° mark for the bike down the centre. Contact patch to CoG will differ slightly because he's hanging off.
Your great explaining style make things look simple and easy but i know i will have to practice hard hard and hard : ))) thanks very much for another great video !!
yes, this is years of practice demonstrated :)
That will be my next drill to begin to use my sliders ! I like the method, by increasing the speed step by step until the knew touches the ground. Very informative !
PS : I appreciate the fact that you mention to "clean" the area. Sometimes, there are tiny rocks (1 inch) on parking area and could make you destabilize when leaning. I always check now before a drill.
Of course....as well as painted lines, grass growing between cracks, etc.
thank you SO Much ,your a great instructor, i am a rider for years, whos ridden wrong,
thanks
looks like that spot you chose for video is a high Air Traffic Area :P .. Great Video like always..
It's on Camp Pendelton
Always love your videos. These are really helpful to the community. It's funny how you're instructing and a plane is flying by. Reminds me of MCRD hahaha. Anyway, been a long time follower and subscriber but I make a few videos as well and love to practice these skills!
Awesome!! :)
Great videos a lot of information I’m from Iraq and your videos helping me a lot when I ride in our crazy roads
thanks!
Greetings from Philippines!🇵🇭 I'm really learning a lot from your videos. I just want to ask if you're still doing counter steering in this kind of lean😅😅 I'm still a newbie😅
You're always counter steering.
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Thank you so very much for replying. Keep on creating very informative videos!🔥 You're helping a lot of newbie motorcycle drivers😅
:)
Doing the msf course I noticed I had to brace back off the gas tank especially because it was on a grom. I had more comfort and my figure eights and u-turns were 💯
:) good to hear
MotoJitsu® thanks man, love your work too. My msf coach told me about you, he’s a super huge fan.. kinda looks like you too.. I wonder ifff.. haha thanks again 🙏😁 you’re the best
@UCo5Hgo28KYKpRT_K2tDKXkQ You're welcome!! :)
Hi, and thank you for your effort teaching us . If I must look fwd with my head and chin looking to thr exite of the corner or the round about, and by saying we have to keep our speed constant. so I have to look down the gauge ,to see my speed. how can I manage to do both, looking at the exite and to look down at the speed gauge ¡¡¡¡. Thank you
You're welcome! You don't do anything I say in this video at a roundabout or corner...this is how to practice knee down...you don't do this on public roads. You slow keep increasing your speed when practicing.
You were right, great video man. Great info!
thanks!
I love your videos so much, they have helped me a lot especially with body positioning. I did what you said in this video and practiced for hours in a parking lot but still can’t get me knee down. I think I’m going fast enough and have proper body position but no luck 🤷♂️
need someone to watch you who really knows what they're doing to give you feedback...if you can, take a course that teaches full body position. If you were doing what I said in the video, it will happen naturally.
Great video as always!
thanks!
Love it, as always, very needed details explained. Now only practice. Thank you as always!
xoxo
@@MotoJitsu ;) xo
Great stuff bro i learned alot from your videos. Keep it up 👌👍🔥
you're welcome! Lots more videos to go through :)
This fella has a massive knowledge 👏
thanks
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Thanks this really helped, I done a trackday 2 weeks ago and was getting my knee down on every right hand corner but i couldn't get my knee down left at all, I was pushing so hard my left peg even touched the ground so i know for sure my positioning was wrong so i'm going to work on that using tips from this video.
yes, sounds like it
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This video is perfect! I've been looking for a good video where this concept is broken down into simple steps and this nails it. Thanks!
How does this technique compare to the supermoto style of riding, where you put your butt to the outside of the seat and lean the bike down with your inside foot feeling the ground? Any chance you could do a video on that style of cornering? The DRZ is the perfect bike for it!
Thanks! Yes, watch this. ua-cam.com/video/9gEyXo2iqIo/v-deo.html
it's awesome learning from you brother, thanks for taking the time
thanks!
This is excellent. Thanks!
You're welcome! Share it with others :)
Excellent! Stringent ones more!
I’l upload my progress asap. Keep it up m8!
:) thanks
Thanks for your videos a hug from Portugal
you're welcome
@@MotoJitsu Obrigado...lool
Your parking lots are way better than our main roads....😢😢
Thanks for this. What I am wondering: suppose one messes up and either goes to fast, to slow or the bike loses grip at some point. Is it possible to come back from those situationis? I mean are there actions one can take?
I want to see the bonus video where you have a conversation with that motorcycle cop who was watching you. :-)
it's not a motorcycle cop, just my buddy who bought that bike.
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I like that you actually use a supermoto for this episode. With that, I would like to know your opinion regarding leg out and leaning out for supermoto riding on tarmac. And again thank you for the video.
Thanks. Watch the video I posted a few weeks ago with Lee Parks explaining this exact question
Love these vids. Really wish we had some more advanced course Oklahoma. I can’t find crap!! I found a good high school new parking lot I’ll be practicing on.
practice everywhere you can!
MotoJitsu® yesterday I saw a scary thing. Guy went into a turn, NO body position, scrapped his foot peg. Accelerated into the turn, so we went WIDE into the oncoming lane. (No trail braking). Then put the video up from his Gopro telling everyone that he is “A Pro now”. I’m no expert by a long shot!! But I did tell him, please learn the proper way. I don’t want to see him in the news one evening. I always ride a sport bikes currently a ZX-14R and a Vulcan 1700 Nomad as my daily. Body position Helps when you lean that thing over with floor boards! I referred him to your vids, so I hope that he starts watching and practicing correctly.
Great vid, thank you. I’m a beginner and trying to practice these turns on a 250 cc trail bike with knobs tires. Feeling uneasy
leaning, and having a hard time committing to the sharp angle. How much tire traction am I compromising with thee tires?
Any advise will be greatly appreciated.
Hi, I hear is dangerous that knee touch the ground the whole time while cornering, knee should left up when it touch the ground? I found no answer online to support, can you care to explain? Thanks
Great advices. Thank you
You are so welcome!
very helpful guide, will be useful to always reference this
thanks! Share it :)
Great explanation and great vid as usual. Learned a lot of these and are helpful to practice. Where i live (Belgium) the parking lots are not as big and usually overfull by daytime when the malls are open. So wait when they are free and then it's practice time. Thx!!
Thank you!! Please share the video with other riders!! :)