KZ AS24 - Finally a TOTL KZ
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
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Sorry to disagree, boxes serve to guard product intact until reaching final customer, after that, except for very few people who are willing to keep them, they become trash, make product more expensive, harder to ship and get to destination in collecting condition. The bulkier, plasticy, inkier they are, the harder it is to recycle. It would be understandable if it was a luxury item or a collectors edition. This product is neither. Again, except for a handful out there. I am sure collectors who decided collecting Kz's know the company has said repeatedly their compromise is with environment. So if after that, they decided to collect, then all this is.. or ought to be in their minds.
I’m also among a few who don’t want fancy boxes and packaging. Most boxes are put away in closets or garages and eventually end up in trash bins. Watched videos of unboxing of Sony Z1R, and couldn’t believe the over the top box with drawers.
+1
Agreed
i believe KZ has turned over a new leaf since their DQ6S dud driver fiasco. i think people should stop hating when there's really nothing to hate. Yeah sure, KZ is the poster-boy for cheap, mass production, "quantity vs quality" chi-fi, but if there's one thing that cannot be denied it's that KZ opened the door for so many into the iem hobby, me included; KZ has contributed significantly to the growth of the iem hobby community. KZ made it affordable for the "average income" person to get into this hobby. Hate KZ for things they've done wrong, but acknowledge them for things they are doing right; and/or the things that they are trying to make right. And if we've been noticing recently, and even Akros has mentioned it in a couple of his recent KZ iem reviews, KZ has been making an effort to improve their tuning, they are now making an effort to "grow up". As well as they are now also more open to considering and listening to the opinions, suggestions, and critiques of the iem hobby community.
i got introduced to this hobby through the KZ AS16, and i know this set got a considerable amount of flack. Some valid, and some from wannabe "golden ears" whose criticisms are based not on their audio listening capability, but based off of what some audio reviewer said. I myself found the AS16 needing a bit more on the bass and sub-bass(and i don't think i had problems nor issues with the treble; but then again, i ain't got them "golden ears") so i just gave it a little eq adjustment and it's fine- for me at least. And i still do enjoy listening to it to this day(2nd only to my KZ ZAS- yes, i prefer a bit more umph and thumph).
But i've also wondered how the AS16 will evolve or progress, if at all. I actually thought it was going to be "one and done" for this set because of the amount of flack it got. And then KZ came out last year with the AS16 PRO as sort of a response to the critiques on the AS16. And that's when I got the feeling that KZ might not be done with the "AS" series yet.
And so now here we are...
To me, it appears that KZ took some of their qeues from their KZ AST(a 24-BA set- 12-units per side- released after the AS16). I think it is more likely that this could be the last in the AS series. I don't think there's enough room in an iem shell for an AS30(15 BA per side set); but then again, it's KZ, so who knows.
And after watching this review by Akros, yeah i think i'll be putting the AS24 in my bucket list. The next step, and most likely the final step, in the evolution of the AS series and the next step in the maturing process of KZ's tuning. Hopefully, i can also get this at 50% less just as when i got the AS16. (KZ price their iems much lower for the SE Asian market and would offer large discounts during special sale events on local on-line platforms).
Also, here's something i came to realize as i got more into this hobby(and started spending more than i should)...
i'm no professional audiophile and i sure heck don't make a living listening, critiquing, analyzing, and curating audio equipment and/or music. So i should not pretend and kid myself by "acting" like i'm one. I'm no Akros, I'm no Hi-Fri Audio, I'm no Chi-Fi Audio Reviews, I'm no Paul Wasaabii, I'm no Crinacle, I'm no Bad Guy Good Audio Reviews; and honestly, my ears cannot discern all of the technicalities and details they discuss, or at the very least, not on the same level that they can sense and perceive these things.
And that's how i got to begin to finally really enjoy this hobby, and how i stopped falling into that trap of that endless wild-goose chasing after that "end game" iem unicorn. That's how i got to stop feeding that insatiable "profit beast", that these businesses are(i hope you haven't forgotten that these iem companies are profit-driven and profit-oriented, first and foremost. Their goal is to keep you spending.).
I still enjoy listening to reviewers such as Akros-( one of my FAVORITE IEM REVIEWER). I enjoy watching the new stuff or tech or tuning that these brands are coming out with. I enjoy how these iems are being analyzed and picked apart technically and literally(props to Hi-Fri). But at the end of the day(or video), i can just go, "Yeah, cool interesting...", without having to look at my wallet and considering placing an order for that "latest and greatest" newfangled iem.
I stopped playing the part of the proverbial horse being led by a carrot on a stick to pull these companies' iem profit wagon.
This is how this hobby finally became really enjoyable for me.
In this hobby, you gotta make sure you don't end up losing your head trying to pleasure your ears.
Gotta make sure you keep that head screwed-on straight and screwed-on tight, always.
Akros sir, thank you very much for this very detailed review!
And as i have mentioned earlier, you are one of my favorite, and one of only 2 iem reviewers that i would regularly watch and listen to(weekly or whenever you have a new video up). The work you do, your insights, and opinions and whatnot, are very much appreciated.
I'll leave these things to you PROS.
THANK YOU!!!
❤🔥
Love your videos - really appreciate your hard word/effort.
Thank you
@@akros9333Bravo, Tony! Hoping you will review QoA Vesper 2 - new 2023 edition! 🎉
Thank you for the recommended setting Tony. Indeed it has now become my favourite. Fantastic balance with good air.
Thinking this is going to be my next set. Looks like a good introduction to an all BA setup especially with the ability to change tunings. I'm still waiting for my 41T to arrive from the Ali express sale, so looking forward to hearing that one too.
Definitely a good introduction to all BA
The version without the switches could be my kinda iem!!!
What's the difference between switches and non switches versions apart from the obvious interchangeable tuning?
@@S1RBR4Naccording to KZ there are 2db difference in the bass and in the treble. Whether the 2db are boosted or less than switch version KZ spokesman did not say. But based on Tony’s review, my take is the non switch version has boosted bass and treble.
@@S1RBR4N That means the iem is not optimized in one setting. I Rather have an iem that is optimised to play what is on the master by an engineer. Swithces is a marketing joke
Great review as always... thanks Tony, been waiting for this one
From what i can see ...you also like the kb tips here.. right?
By the way, how does it scales with power?
Thanks,
Ilan :))
Great review. Unfortunately though I will never buy another KZ ever, no matter how good the review unit is. Disgusting unprofessional company.
@@user-lc9rp2xr8n What! KZ needs to be sued in consumer courts.
Perfect review. So we can say these ones are the best full range and clearest sounding of them all KZs?
I went with the Simgot AE500 for now but Plan to eventually give them to my daughter and get a more Quality set in the higher price ranges later on if its something I like enuf to do so, I have a funny feeling Ill be committing to the IEM shit for good, from what Ive heard personally.
Thank you for your review, I already know which KZ to buy.
Could you please write your values for the tuning you used in this comparison?
I don't know English well and I could have set something wrong.
Thank you,
Also, could you suggest a DAC/ AMP for the computer to get even more out of the KZ, and what cables do you recommend for them?
Thanks again,
Is this better than kiwi ears orchestra lite?
Hello there,
What cables do you recommend I buy to accompany the KZ AS-24?
Warm regards from Spain
Well, i found some listings for this at 80. Might give it a try. I dont have an all BA set. So who knows, maybe ill enjoy it
I definitely gave up on the IEM design and I'm going back to the beginnings and the bullet cable down design. Simply the design of the IEM is such that the body does not allow the nozzle to go deep into the ear to get the bass no matter how long it is. I finally realized that. That's why more and more they put some kind of tuning settings in the IEMs that look like a mini EQ because that's the only way they can get enough bass.I rest my case and i'm not a basshead guy at all i just want a full spectrum and i'm not gonna waste my money on IEM design anymore.
Sounds like you need to look into the Penon Fan 2 if you ever decide to purchase another IEM- those fit very deep and have an extended nozzle!!! They allow for clean bass and isolation with the right tips.
Awesome review! 😊
I got the new KZ Symphony (planar plus dynamic driver for more bass) because I want to try that driver style for the first time but I’m wondering now if I should have got the AS24 lol
Where can I buy that cable? The stock cable is bad
Hi Akros!
Sir, just a quick question:
I'm considering getting this as an upgrade to my AS16. So, is it worth paying extra for the tuning version, or is the standard non-tuning version good enough.
I'm no audiophile, just someone who can appreciate good audio.
Hope to hear back from you.
Thank you very much and have a good one😊
My apologies friend for the late reply. I am truly sorry.
As for your.question, get the AS24 tunable version.....it's really good
@@akros9333 Don't worry about Sir, it's alright😊
Thank you very much for responding to my question❤️
Yes, at the moment, i'm still on the fence with the AS24🤔
Thank you very much again and you have a very good one😊
Is this worth an upgrade from HBB X PR2 and moondrop aria? and is this better than kiwi ears quintet? (planning to buy one)
I almost bought it based on your review but took my risk last moment with Floaudio Bluelover - 6BA, crossover, FR suspiciously similar to DT600 for $98. Any chance you will be getting hold of it? Floaudio seems like another overlooked company.
Let me know how it sounds.. there isn't much attention yet for the Floaudio Bluelover
Sir, do you recomand this tune 0111 next to orchestra kiwi? Have a nice day!
Do these headphones have a balanced sound? Are they worth taking? Will they be good for mixing a track? Or should I get the Bayerdynamic dt 880 pro?
I can't give an opinion on the DT880 , but the AS is more than capable enough for mixing.
How does its bass region performance compare to KZ AS10 ?
Could you resume your favourite tunings (as in how the switches are set up) for me please? It's a bit confusing as there are so many possible combos... Also in your opinion how do these stack up vs (good) similarly priced iems? (when using your favourite tuning) Olina se, s12, hexa come to mind...
Hi! two little question.
-For you, most complete KZ IEM FOR MUSIC?
-Top3 most complete iem for music UNDER600€?
AS24, PR1 Pro and ZVX are all very musical...... ultimately I think I'd go with the PR1 Pro.
As for top 3 under 600euro......uffff hard one......Night Oblivion Butastur, Penon Globe, AFUL Performer 8
@@akros9333 thanks i though you considero Cannon better than performer 8!!
Please KZ don't alter your tuning like you did with the PR2
That's more of the reason why I'm so pissed in buying this set 🤔
I've also been using the PR2 for a while. Nothing wrong with the tuning. I suggest trusting our ears
@@user-qs9jx2bb6q you're lucky with your unit bro but with us we aren't.
The thing that scares me about this set is all those switches and the history of KZ quality... That's a lot of ba's and wiring that can go wrong.
Kz Never has quality issue or failed on me, you can talk bout shady business but not necessarily Qc issue
they posted how they work on facebook before.
Sir, do you recommend kz zar or as24? Thank you!
Thanks Akros. How would you compare these with the kz zs10 pro x?
The AS are superior....the zs are good but not able to have the same technical details of the AS
Thank you for the video! I am searching for a IEM that sounds like KZ AS16 but with more bass. Like a mixture between AS16 and ZS10 Pro. Could you maybe recommend me one if you know? I thought maybe the AS24 could be the one, with the switches.
Do you want all BA or hybrid
@@akros9333 It would be interesting to see a version of both. Thank you.
@@akros9333 I hope you can help me find one. Either BA or Hybrid.
@@sadikk4663 depending on your budget for a hybrid suggestion you have the ISN NEO5.....really really good!
As an all BA the CVJ Kumo is very capable.
You can also look at the Leisurely Audio L8S.....a Beast of a IEM as far as all BA are concerned.
@@akros9333 Thank you very much! I appreciate your help. But i wanted to stick with the brand KZ. Is there maybe any KZ IEM you can recommend, that has a clear sound like AS16 but more bass like ZS10 Pro?
I'm so interested in this set but I'm so scared of buying it because kz are fond of changing the tuning of their set.
Yes I understand your concern.....but I don't think it should be an issue on this one
@@akros9333 I've had qc issues with kz 3 f*cking times and they couldn't do anything about it. Their response almost meant I should goto hell.
Just got T800 on sale...how is this 12BA per side compared to 8BAs on T800?
is this better than letshuoer s12pro?
That's not a comparison that I thought about.
Either one has strengths and weaknesses
I'd say S12Pro is perhaps a little more musical but truthfully the difference in not much.
AS24 might have slightly more appealing tonality in the lower mids, buy again this is minimal difference.
They are both winners for me!
hi , I use the Dunu Titan S, is it worth it to upgrade to this?
Yes the AS24 is as detailed and more fun
Wonder if their BAs are working. The precious ones only the bass ba was working . Mmm
They working ....trust me .....the difference in each tuning setting is way too much for the BA not to be working.
Besides what you are saying was applicable to the DQ6 and DQ6S.
The sets using BA I have tested and they work.
@@akros9333 good to know. Thanks
How do you thinks as24 compares to hexa? Im looking to purchase an iem
Hexa is good but way too relaxed ....it's not a fun engaging IEM.....audiophile correct but boring.
AS24 is definitely more engaging and highly musical considering it's all BA and it's from a Brand that does cause Alot of heart burn to many customers
@@akros9333 thank you I guess i pass the hexa then as24 seems to fit what im looking for and having switches should help with possible little preference differences 🌼🌼
@@mizikacibalik definitely the versatile nature is AS24 makes more sense
Huh!! I left my comment ,anda thumbs up, nice review by ya...it dissapeared...wow
should i buy s12 pro ??? or theseee??
They are both very good...... but I think I'd go S12PRO because it's a planar and has some pretty impressive technical abilities
Gd ba sound of iem is Still oldies u12t without dip switches.. But apex modules..chifi ba r dis.. peace!
wut?
Who the f...
these or orchestras?
I love the Orchestra.....but these are more fun
As another stated, I would never buy a KZ. They market to newbies but have low quality drivers resulting in low fi.
My products haven't same issues such as DFi zvx from their official as a kz user, and review checked from Paul and akro and more.
@@user-vm8hv7fw7phe's referring to the older products. They've been in a scandal not so long back where they marketed multi driver earphones like the dq6 which only had a single working dynamic driver whereas they were advertised as triple driver sets.