@@CaptainNerdseye yes very true my dear. they fourget four india and modi. they fourget mother who make and vishnu who create and all amazing convenience. i proud four youre agree.
If i remember correctly, GW made in 2018 a boardgame called Speed Freekz. Which was all about... well, Ork Speed Freek subculture and their cars, from which those buggies originate.
Pretty much, it was one of those "here's some new models with a very lightly designed game, if you buy this box you'll get a bit of a discount on the models before they get sold individually at full price and also a sort of game that you'll play maybe once or twice then forget about because we aren't planning to support it past the initial run"
Making five buggies seems like a pretty simple way to add some texture to the army. I have a fidget popper T-rex that my kids got me. I love it for painting. Each of the little cups hs a tiny T-rex texture in the bottom as well so i can invert a cup and use it to test a drybrush. They thought they got me a silly stocking stuffer because Dad love dinosaurs, but that things gets USED.
I use a Tamiya paint scoop to get my paint out of pots. Nice little scoop on the front. Wide paddle on the back for stirring. Made of metal so it's easy to clean.
The servo skull is 100% the item I would recommend a parent get for their kid as a gift, its a fair bet they wont have it, and you don't risk getting them something they already have. I've been using a silicon fidget popper I have a big one I got at Walmart Clearance for $6
Oh the buggies makes total sense when you remember people have been loving Speed Freakz since 3rd ed and they don't want you to make custom vehicles for Orks any more. And the Snazz Wagon does have a Fury Road reference on it so go for that one if you only have one. But indirect and mortal wounds are nothing to sneeze at.
I like that there are so many different mixes of paints that are clearly labeled and ready to buy. Since I'm color blind I find mixing to be really hard.
I got a challenge for you Eons, convert a standard historical model kit into a 40k piece, I’d especially love to see a one of the Soviet helicopters converted considering how 40k they feel.
I've just had a thought that these ork buggies could make good conversion fodder for genestealer cults. The grinder on the dragsta looks like a small rock grinder, the boosta-blasta is just a hotrod, the squigbuggy is just a small truck, the scrapjet could probably be turned into a drilling machine or something, and idk about the snazzwagon. The 'newer' ork vehicles look a lot less thrown together from scrap than the ork trukk, with a lot of reasonable panelwork and functioning looking engines. It was the squigbuggy that I saw and thought 'that's not far from a normal human work truck'.
I don't play WH40K, but I absolutely love the lore, world setting and all the minis. These buggies look so cool and how can you NOT love Orks? They are literally GWs version of comic relief. Possibly the best faction to play if you don't take the game super serious or even if you do. Also I love your videos.
Jay you are a fucking beast, man. 3 videos a week is already outrageous, especially when they are all focused on modelling and wargaming, but follow ups like this as well? The fact that you never drop in quality, never really repeat yourself and still manage to stay upbeat and in love with 40k is just insane. You're a legend, man
The lil popper paint dish thingies are a buck at the Doller Tree. I got one, to try... its actually kinda handy for painting a couple dudes in an evening.
So yeah, as mentioned in other posts Speed Freeks (released for Orktober 2018!) was a game that came with two modern sprue sets of three warbikers, the Kustom Boosta-Blasta and the teleporting Shokkjump Dragsta. The other buggies were released in the following months. Like what GW does with Kill Teams in their Kill Team game it was a way to softly add new minis to their main game by launching them in smaller thematic side game first.
I'd recommend getting some Gretchin they may not be the most exciting or glamourous units, but thats their job, They'll sit back, be cheap, and do the boring "stand on an objective all game" job so your cooler units can go and do the fun stuff like getting stuck in and clobbering heads.
Yeah it won't be 3$. 😂 a box of swiss chocolates costs around 7$ , comes with a hard plastic 32 "container" paint dry pallet and as a bonus it comes with 32 chocolates.
The skull is for kids and a few of the newbies before they learn you can buy a ceramic tile for like a dollar and use it for the next ten years, just clean of the old paint with a razor scraper that costs another dollar. Also you’re right about their tools. Go to home depot and get all your tools for half the price.also with the ork vehicles is kitbash them from bits and dollar store toys. You could make a whole speed freak army for bits and the cost of a single Gw truck. Plus the fun of kitbashing and orks are so forgiving in building your own vehicles.
The problem I have with a couple of these buggies is that they would just drive themselves into the ground too low profile any soft dirt would bury the car nose first.
That pallet would be an amazing giveway thing or pack in with the introductory / learn to paint sets. Like it's the kind of cheesy gimmick that would just be an "oooooh this is neat" extra when getting started.
Not related to this video. But you have convinced me to try out MoonStone. Bought minis for a mate too. Very keen to get them ramped up and ready to play
6:12 ive been screaming this from the roof tops except use a silicone sculpting tip and you wont even need the paper towel at the end it just wants to fall off. Dip in and roll it onto the palette with 0 cleanup.
Orks are in a really wonky spot and buggies are apparently being punished for being godly in 9th edition and they are like tissue paper. But dang it all if the models aren't really fun to build, especially the Scrapjet and Dragsta. The Pariah Nexus rules basically say you cant advance and do objectives and that is litterally the point of the Kult of Speed. But for casual games, grabbing legend units like Mek on Warbike and the Wartrakks can be some great fun.
This try palet is the kind of toy we got for free in the cereals when I was a kid. When I first saw this, I thought you might get it for free when you pay more than 100 bugs in a GW store.
I do not play 40k since 5th edition. I had a look recently at the SM codex and I do not get why they include separated entries for every small variation of the same units. For what you are describing, it is the same case of the buggies. I wonder why they did not wrote a single buggy entry, and then you have to pick one special ability for X points.
Because getting whatever weapon you want available to that unit no longer costs any points, so everyone just takes the max loadout for that unit, and in that way there has to be many different units to force people to pay the points to use those instead
@@CreationDominion That I understand (even if I dislike, tactical>specialist squads), but for example it feels weird to have "captain", "captain in phobos", "captain in gravis", "captain in terminator", "captain on bike"...
In my mind all the ork buggies are limited to one of each per army, like they were diferent models for the same datasheet bu with diferent options. I think they feel better as unique custom vehicles their driver scratch built. Honestly i personnaly wouldn't care if they're good or not and take one of each plus some trucks and battlewagons. And if troops are necessary then a bundle of stormboys since at least they're fast
I been playing orks for a few years now. The shokkjump dragsta is a odd model. Don’t get me wrong is is one of my favs but in my opinion it is made to cause panic and be overall just annoying. The way I use them is if a objective is not guarded very well I teleport it on or near it and blow up the unit. Or use it to capture corners for secondary objective. Or my personal favorite is to just be annoying. Teleport it somewhere where there is a brick of guys you don’t want to move and charge it. They are stuck in melee or worse it blocks them from charging what they really want to charge. Perfect ork model
Speed Freeks. That's why there's new cars. They're all playable in the game and its basically the same as to why there's a Titus model, to entice you to buy what you've played in the videogame.
I just want to correct something. Basic color wheel is a bit miss leading. In theory it does work and on computer it can work. But a saturated mixed color is almost impossible to achieve. Mixing will always desaturate the color. There are ways around this but not for every single color. There is also a reason why printers tend to use cyan, yellow and magenta colors. If you can find good cym colors you can get almost anything. At least better than with red,blue and yellow. Tho if you have the secondary colors it gets easier. But with tertiary colors you are very golden. Tho at that point you just got cyan and magenta in there and you are back at the start.
Aside for the actual color, with opaque paints like this it will also matter if they're made with a single pigment or not, which i think is what jay was referring to with getting weird results when mixing, if the colors you're mixing all have a bit of red pigment in them that might suddenly show up more than you'd expect. You can ofc have less saturated colors with single pigments too, but usually for a really saturated color you have no other choice than going single pigment so that's probably why those behave better. And there are only so many reasonably priced and non-toxic pigments a company can use which is why a lot of them end up being mixed pigments so they can sell more, and more specific colors.
@@blaholtzen yes. I understood that the mixing part was referring to multi pigment paints. But still the color theory brakes a little in actual use. Even with single pigment paints. Mixing will always desaturate your color in real life.
Any updates and opinions on the new Kill Team edition and the revised rules? Like too see an in-depth video about it with comparison to the third edition. Looks like tac ops has been removed.
If you take all 15 buggies... well you'll have hell finding space for them on the deployment, and a royal pain managing their movement across the board as they all block eachother. For anyone who remembers Starcraft 1 siege tanks... ya... it's like that when you have a proper speed freeks list, lots of vehicles and lots of jams... And you must move them in the right order or you block yourself in/off and are screwed. Boosta Blasta suppresses and subtracts from the enemy's ballistic skill to hit dice roll (not movement). Only ranaged, unlike most armies use of the supressed word where it is all to hits. But with 6 shots or 9 shots if under 18 inches, odds are at least one or two shots hits the enemy so it's pretty easy to apply. For the shockump skimma, I like leaving them in my own backline for turns one and two (possibly three) to help keep the enemy from being able to bring in reinforcments/deep strikers. Then bring them forward after they've called in their own reinforcements someplace else. Also three of them jumping into one area can be good. The rifle on them is hitting on 3+, so 3 shooting is 2 hitting, at str 8 it's 1.5 wounding against most infantry characters, then with ap, and assuming you dropped in where they aren't protected by cover that means odds are pretty good one of these might get past their save, and then D6+1 damage is enough to kill many weaker characters. If there's a medic, painboy, or other weaker support leader or such with annoying abilities these 3 dropping in can sometimes remove that character from the squad thanks to precision. Best to have other units to follow up/charge afterwards so your three skimmas aint caught out near the enemy in their turn without them being otherwise harmed or bogged down, but situationally this can be usefull. Objectives are often well enough fought over I don't find them to actually help on those much though honestly, it's rare for them to help there till turn four or five in my games, and the teleport is an advance, so no actions when using it. Still, 225 points for that chance to snipe a like leader.... not the best use, but that's speed freaks in general to be honest. Rukkatrukk squig buggy, it's -2 to move speeds as well as -2 to advance and charge rolls when you hit and pass a 4+ roll on a NON vehicle/monster. So great against deathgaurd, grey knights, etc... in theory. Reality is since it's only applied half the time, it's not reliable, and at a full 100 points for what is a pretty poor offensive vehicle otherwise, it's really not that useful. I can't think of one game where it actually payed for itself in kills, or changed anything with it's slow (that rarely is actually applied). So it's bad damage, sucks up points, its ability is unreliable, and odds are against most enemies that -2 is, outside the first turn, not that useful as they're probably already close enough. Also you're orks, you're probably racing towards the enemy so you can get within 9 inches since that's where all our shooting/stratagems must be to actually be worth it... Boomdakka snazzwagon is -1 to hit to nearby non vehicle/monster enemies. So it's also -1 in melee, that's the most important part of it. Put this by your other units and the enemy might be less inclined to charge them, but honestly probably not, ork speed freaks ain't that dangerous in melee especially when not on the charge, but it might help a bit so, eh... Having it move up/charge with your bikers can help limit enemy fightback too. Just remember speed freaks take up a LOT of space with all their big oval bases, so far to often I can't actually get this in a charge along with the others, as there's no space or they have to go around so far to get past my other bases up front. Hence... defensive is what it often is most reliable at. Also it's shooting is purely anti infantry, and with an average of about 4-5 wounds against most infantry depending on range, with most at AP1, it's.... alright. This thing up close at ideal range can maybe kill one space marine or like 3 or 4 gaurdsmen. At 80 points it's only... ok. The problem is that anti infantry is not what speed freaks lack, it's what they're flooded with. For the argument on the jet and it's mortals, deffkoptas is much better, they can inflict them on normal moves, while still shooting. Mixed with being smaller based and fly lets them move around much more freely. Also they are arguably the best speed freeks unit in general. Megatrakk scrapjet mortals is only on a charge, and with it needing a 2+ to get d3 mortals, or a 6 for auto 3 mortals. It's shooting is a bit odd, being two twing linked big shootas, and then rokkits and wing missiles. It's ok at shooting, but is split oddly between anti light infantry, and anti heavy infantry. But still not great or that good at either for the cost. My experience with ork speedfreek buggies is... they can be sorta fun, but they take up tons of space and logjam your movement, and honestly they aren't really worth it points wise. For combat they're all a bit lacking, relying on that speed and utility. The problem is when ALL of them are like that, the speed freaks tend to just be lacking reliable damage, so against some armies their limits weapons counter they do ok thanks to the mobility helping you, but against others you just bounce off and are screwed. Also, the mobility doesn't let you all flank to one side like you might hope, again, too many giant bases cover the entire deployment zone, you basicly mob rush forwards across the whole board, taking up more space than green tide or such does even. It's not competitive, but it can be fun, though losing too many times is itself, not fun. Still, against newer players who don't screen, use cover, and deploy too far forward for you to do turn one charges or stuff on, (and space marines in general since rokkit spam counters their infantry well) it can be ok and rarely good. Against some others, ya you're basicly screwed going into it. Army, and buggies especially, require some real ballance tweaks, and not just points changes, oh god if they lower the cost I'll be forced to put even MORE units in reserves to avoid having them destroyed pre turn 1 when I can't find the space to fit them in my deployment area (not to mention my large carry case is fully maxed out with my current 2k speed freaks list, I have space for about 2 more bikes, or 7 more normal infantry in it, no space for another buggy or anything though.
Unless your mixing paints to make a certain shade. Which is unlikely, as I always stick to the different pots of citadel paint. Why would you even want this? The Citadel Palette Pad or a wet palette works well.
I bet the servo skull palette is going to be great for shades/washes and contrast paints, the problem is the GW price because I bet it'll be like 15 or 20 dollars
The problem with rewatching Fury Road is you'll need to immediately acquire, build and paint Mozrog Skragbad as an Orky Furiosa. Note: this is not a problem
Ups, all da buggiez! Whaaaaaaaagh!❤ EDIT: Playing orks is like a coin toss, sometimes you get wacked off the board, sometimes you krump your oponend into the dirt and both outcomes are pure stupid fun!👍
I remember when Speed Freaks came out. I was so hopeful that it was going to herald a return of Gorkamorka. Unfortunately it was just a one off to hype and sell the buggies. Games Workshop, can we PLEASE get a Gorkamorka reboot!?
There's been a faint rumor of dropper bottles for GW... Would make sense for this palette.... Shades and contrast are good from the pots... A $2 gladware wet palette is a better option if no droppers...
Holy hell I think I’ve been watching old videos because I caught this one and half of you seems to be missing. Assuming you aren’t sick congratulations!
They just need to join the majority of the industry and get rid of pots and switch to dropper bottles. Makes mixing in ratio much easier for airbrushing and loading on wet pallets without wasting any paint..
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Just got into 40k a few weeks ago and your my favorite creator in the space for all things. Your the only one who gives me LGS Manager vibes lol
Yeah, I’ve been back in for a couple of years and only really started watching this channel. Good vibes, and if there is negativity it’s constructive.
lol exact same, good to see another newbie flock to the same people
@@CaptainNerdseye yes very true my dear. they fourget four india and modi. they fourget mother who make and vishnu who create and all amazing convenience. i proud four youre agree.
@@RanjakarPatelwhat?
What faction did you go with?
If i remember correctly, GW made in 2018 a boardgame called Speed Freekz. Which was all about... well, Ork Speed Freek subculture and their cars, from which those buggies originate.
There's also a video game a la twisted metal
Yeah my buddy has the models from that box, uses them in his games
We called Gorkamorka back in the day (when pyramids in the rulebook freaked out loreists).
Pretty much, it was one of those "here's some new models with a very lightly designed game, if you buy this box you'll get a bit of a discount on the models before they get sold individually at full price and also a sort of game that you'll play maybe once or twice then forget about because we aren't planning to support it past the initial run"
@@darkowl9
You are not wrong about that.
Making five buggies seems like a pretty simple way to add some texture to the army.
I have a fidget popper T-rex that my kids got me. I love it for painting. Each of the little cups hs a tiny T-rex texture in the bottom as well so i can invert a cup and use it to test a drybrush. They thought they got me a silly stocking stuffer because Dad love dinosaurs, but that things gets USED.
I have the same one! Great idea for using cups unpopped for testing drybrushing.
They made the 5 buggies for a game called Speed Freaks that got scrapped faster than an Imperial Outpost on Armageddon during the great WAAAAAAAAGH
It’s a video game now! Just launched recently on Steam
@@mrsmiley92 I didn't know that. Thanks for the heads-up 😁
I use a Tamiya paint scoop to get my paint out of pots. Nice little scoop on the front. Wide paddle on the back for stirring. Made of metal so it's easy to clean.
The servo skull is 100% the item I would recommend a parent get for their kid as a gift, its a fair bet they wont have it, and you don't risk getting them something they already have.
I've been using a silicon fidget popper I have a big one I got at Walmart Clearance for $6
Oh the buggies makes total sense when you remember people have been loving Speed Freakz since 3rd ed and they don't want you to make custom vehicles for Orks any more.
And the Snazz Wagon does have a Fury Road reference on it so go for that one if you only have one.
But indirect and mortal wounds are nothing to sneeze at.
The palette seems more like a collector’s item than something usable
I like that there are so many different mixes of paints that are clearly labeled and ready to buy. Since I'm color blind I find mixing to be really hard.
I got a challenge for you Eons, convert a standard historical model kit into a 40k piece, I’d especially love to see a one of the Soviet helicopters converted considering how 40k they feel.
I've just had a thought that these ork buggies could make good conversion fodder for genestealer cults. The grinder on the dragsta looks like a small rock grinder, the boosta-blasta is just a hotrod, the squigbuggy is just a small truck, the scrapjet could probably be turned into a drilling machine or something, and idk about the snazzwagon. The 'newer' ork vehicles look a lot less thrown together from scrap than the ork trukk, with a lot of reasonable panelwork and functioning looking engines. It was the squigbuggy that I saw and thought 'that's not far from a normal human work truck'.
13:55 problem is that the buggy has to advance to teleport, meaning it can't do actions, and it can only shoot it's gun in the special detachment
Let a Mek tag it for that +1 bs so now it hits on a 2+ with a precision rifle. Very gimmicky but hilarious when pulled off
I don't play WH40K, but I absolutely love the lore, world setting and all the minis. These buggies look so cool and how can you NOT love Orks? They are literally GWs version of comic relief.
Possibly the best faction to play if you don't take the game super serious or even if you do. Also I love your videos.
Jay you are a fucking beast, man. 3 videos a week is already outrageous, especially when they are all focused on modelling and wargaming, but follow ups like this as well? The fact that you never drop in quality, never really repeat yourself and still manage to stay upbeat and in love with 40k is just insane. You're a legend, man
on the shokkjump dragsta: I'm pretty sure an ork would want to shoot a hazardous weapon.
The only reason not to have a helmet is to eat food. Can you do some stl's of arms holding food for all Mini's without helmets on?
they had to make custom tooling for that servo skull. it will definitely not be cheap.
never thought i'd hear servoskull and cute in the same sentance but here we are
That servoskull plushie is pretty darn cute.
16:46 "It could make all the difference, or it could be completely superfluous..." yeah, that tracks for Orks! 🤣🤣🤣
They made the buggies for the Speed Freeks board game in 2018
9:03 which jade color do you mean?
Pro tip: never use your expensive painting brushes to fetch the paint out of the pot. Use an old brush specifically only for that job.
Buggies are simply too cool to be true! The hint also of the Mad Max car is very cool
The lil popper paint dish thingies are a buck at the Doller Tree. I got one, to try... its actually kinda handy for painting a couple dudes in an evening.
The buggies premiered in a game called Speed Freeks which was an Ork combat racing game. I wish they'd re-release it
there is a video game speed freeks
@@venomx99x my friend has half the buggies in his pile o shame
Uncle atom made a video about the silicone popper things GW mustve seen it.😢
If the only citadel paint ya use is Evil Suns, any thoughts on the new formula?
So yeah, as mentioned in other posts Speed Freeks (released for Orktober 2018!) was a game that came with two modern sprue sets of three warbikers, the Kustom Boosta-Blasta and the teleporting Shokkjump Dragsta. The other buggies were released in the following months.
Like what GW does with Kill Teams in their Kill Team game it was a way to softly add new minis to their main game by launching them in smaller thematic side game first.
Experienced that with Magos Purple contrast paint. It sucks as a purple but is perfect for layering it over a flesh tone to make dead skin.
Hobby space tour 3000. Let's see where your junk is at and how. I need storage ideas
🎵 *_spooky-scary-silicone_* 🎵
Is it weird that i mix my death guard green with a bit of linseed oil? It thickens it a bit so it behaves more like a oil paint..
What about a dinosaur servo-skull… 😏
The deal with the buggies is- speed freeks (the game) is awsom!!!
The palette will cost $45 USD… mark my words
I say $18
I'd recommend getting some Gretchin
they may not be the most exciting or glamourous units, but thats their job, They'll sit back, be cheap, and do the boring "stand on an objective all game" job so your cooler units can go and do the fun stuff like getting stuck in and clobbering heads.
I fell down a rabbit hole because of Space Marine 2. I landed here. I don’t know what this means but I have to sub now that Ive watched 4 videos 🤣
Same bro, I’m collecting Custodes now.
Yeah it won't be 3$. 😂 a box of swiss chocolates costs around 7$ , comes with a hard plastic 32 "container" paint dry pallet and as a bonus it comes with 32 chocolates.
I never thought of this, I love these comments for the ideas 😂😂😂
There’s no way that GW doesn’t price that pallet for less than $20 but it being closer to $30 wouldn’t surprise me.
Man that back of the paintbrush trick is solid gold. Gonna start using that tonight!
The skull is for kids and a few of the newbies before they learn you can buy a ceramic tile for like a dollar and use it for the next ten years, just clean of the old paint with a razor scraper that costs another dollar. Also you’re right about their tools. Go to home depot and get all your tools for half the price.also with the ork vehicles is kitbash them from bits and dollar store toys. You could make a whole speed freak army for bits and the cost of a single Gw truck. Plus the fun of kitbashing and orks are so forgiving in building your own vehicles.
i put thinner in some paint pots to transfer to dropper bottles
I’ve been staring at the Scrap Jet for 10 minutes and I can’t get the idea that the front is from an old GW paint pot out of my head
I really want to build a "Mad Mekz" army that is just buggies, bikes, trikes and boyz in trukks and battlewagons.
I kinda forget sometimes that Nick is prolly just chilling on his phone during this whole thing
The problem I have with a couple of these buggies is that they would just drive themselves into the ground too low profile any soft dirt would bury the car nose first.
Oh.. Couldn't sleep and BAM new video! Sweet. Time to watch!
That pallet would be an amazing giveway thing or pack in with the introductory / learn to paint sets. Like it's the kind of cheesy gimmick that would just be an "oooooh this is neat" extra when getting started.
Not related to this video. But you have convinced me to try out MoonStone. Bought minis for a mate too. Very keen to get them ramped up and ready to play
Oh wow I played the Speed Freeks video game for the first time this week and all these Ork Buggies are in the game!
6:12 ive been screaming this from the roof tops except use a silicone sculpting tip and you wont even need the paper towel at the end it just wants to fall off. Dip in and roll it onto the palette with 0 cleanup.
The scrapjet with its ability and tank shock is so good u could do some good amount of mortal wounds
i don't know why I never thought of using the back of the brush to get the paint........ Thanks
What codex do I need to play black templars?
The Ork buggies..... Guessing you haven't played Speed Freeks then 😂 Crazy fun, even though I always lose 😅
The ork vehicles are from speed freeks
for well palettes toffeefe or plastic gum containers do the same and you get treats ;)
Confirmation as of today, the Servo Skull Palette is on the shop for $15. Totally called it.
Orks are in a really wonky spot and buggies are apparently being punished for being godly in 9th edition and they are like tissue paper. But dang it all if the models aren't really fun to build, especially the Scrapjet and Dragsta. The Pariah Nexus rules basically say you cant advance and do objectives and that is litterally the point of the Kult of Speed. But for casual games, grabbing legend units like Mek on Warbike and the Wartrakks can be some great fun.
I bought a popper anxiety reliever at the £ shop probably as big as all 4 dinosaur together
This try palet is the kind of toy we got for free in the cereals when I was a kid. When I first saw this, I thought you might get it for free when you pay more than 100 bugs in a GW store.
I do not play 40k since 5th edition.
I had a look recently at the SM codex and I do not get why they include separated entries for every small variation of the same units.
For what you are describing, it is the same case of the buggies. I wonder why they did not wrote a single buggy entry, and then you have to pick one special ability for X points.
Because getting whatever weapon you want available to that unit no longer costs any points, so everyone just takes the max loadout for that unit, and in that way there has to be many different units to force people to pay the points to use those instead
@@CreationDominion That I understand (even if I dislike, tactical>specialist squads), but for example it feels weird to have "captain", "captain in phobos", "captain in gravis", "captain in terminator", "captain on bike"...
@@andresperedo1275 exactly. Cause if it was just captain for 85pt but you could put him in termy armor or on a bike for free wouldnt you?
@@CreationDominion of course not. But in the past it would be (for example) "Options: +15 points to equip your captain with a terminator armor"
@@andresperedo1275 Well that's why the individual datasheets exist. Because there is no point cost for equipment anymore...
ad skip at 1:48
Too bad it showed me this at 1:46
Let me guess, the two that blended together were the Boomdakka Snazzwaggon and the Kustom Boosta Blasta? Because same here.
In my mind all the ork buggies are limited to one of each per army, like they were diferent models for the same datasheet bu with diferent options. I think they feel better as unique custom vehicles their driver scratch built.
Honestly i personnaly wouldn't care if they're good or not and take one of each plus some trucks and battlewagons. And if troops are necessary then a bundle of stormboys since at least they're fast
I been playing orks for a few years now. The shokkjump dragsta is a odd model. Don’t get me wrong is is one of my favs but in my opinion it is made to cause panic and be overall just annoying. The way I use them is if a objective is not guarded very well I teleport it on or near it and blow up the unit. Or use it to capture corners for secondary objective. Or my personal favorite is to just be annoying. Teleport it somewhere where there is a brick of guys you don’t want to move and charge it. They are stuck in melee or worse it blocks them from charging what they really want to charge. Perfect ork model
Speed Freeks. That's why there's new cars. They're all playable in the game and its basically the same as to why there's a Titus model, to entice you to buy what you've played in the videogame.
I never knewww! About the pops, Thank I'm going to try it. I got a bunch from my kids 😅😅😅😅
I just want to correct something. Basic color wheel is a bit miss leading. In theory it does work and on computer it can work. But a saturated mixed color is almost impossible to achieve. Mixing will always desaturate the color. There are ways around this but not for every single color.
There is also a reason why printers tend to use cyan, yellow and magenta colors. If you can find good cym colors you can get almost anything. At least better than with red,blue and yellow.
Tho if you have the secondary colors it gets easier. But with tertiary colors you are very golden. Tho at that point you just got cyan and magenta in there and you are back at the start.
Aside for the actual color, with opaque paints like this it will also matter if they're made with a single pigment or not, which i think is what jay was referring to with getting weird results when mixing, if the colors you're mixing all have a bit of red pigment in them that might suddenly show up more than you'd expect. You can ofc have less saturated colors with single pigments too, but usually for a really saturated color you have no other choice than going single pigment so that's probably why those behave better. And there are only so many reasonably priced and non-toxic pigments a company can use which is why a lot of them end up being mixed pigments so they can sell more, and more specific colors.
@@blaholtzen yes. I understood that the mixing part was referring to multi pigment paints. But still the color theory brakes a little in actual use. Even with single pigment paints. Mixing will always desaturate your color in real life.
Any updates and opinions on the new Kill Team edition and the revised rules? Like too see an in-depth video about it with comparison to the third edition. Looks like tac ops has been removed.
If you take all 15 buggies... well you'll have hell finding space for them on the deployment, and a royal pain managing their movement across the board as they all block eachother. For anyone who remembers Starcraft 1 siege tanks... ya... it's like that when you have a proper speed freeks list, lots of vehicles and lots of jams... And you must move them in the right order or you block yourself in/off and are screwed.
Boosta Blasta suppresses and subtracts from the enemy's ballistic skill to hit dice roll (not movement). Only ranaged, unlike most armies use of the supressed word where it is all to hits.
But with 6 shots or 9 shots if under 18 inches, odds are at least one or two shots hits the enemy so it's pretty easy to apply.
For the shockump skimma, I like leaving them in my own backline for turns one and two (possibly three) to help keep the enemy from being able to bring in reinforcments/deep strikers. Then bring them forward after they've called in their own reinforcements someplace else. Also three of them jumping into one area can be good. The rifle on them is hitting on 3+, so 3 shooting is 2 hitting, at str 8 it's 1.5 wounding against most infantry characters, then with ap, and assuming you dropped in where they aren't protected by cover that means odds are pretty good one of these might get past their save, and then D6+1 damage is enough to kill many weaker characters. If there's a medic, painboy, or other weaker support leader or such with annoying abilities these 3 dropping in can sometimes remove that character from the squad thanks to precision. Best to have other units to follow up/charge afterwards so your three skimmas aint caught out near the enemy in their turn without them being otherwise harmed or bogged down, but situationally this can be usefull. Objectives are often well enough fought over I don't find them to actually help on those much though honestly, it's rare for them to help there till turn four or five in my games, and the teleport is an advance, so no actions when using it. Still, 225 points for that chance to snipe a like leader.... not the best use, but that's speed freaks in general to be honest.
Rukkatrukk squig buggy, it's -2 to move speeds as well as -2 to advance and charge rolls when you hit and pass a 4+ roll on a NON vehicle/monster. So great against deathgaurd, grey knights, etc... in theory. Reality is since it's only applied half the time, it's not reliable, and at a full 100 points for what is a pretty poor offensive vehicle otherwise, it's really not that useful. I can't think of one game where it actually payed for itself in kills, or changed anything with it's slow (that rarely is actually applied). So it's bad damage, sucks up points, its ability is unreliable, and odds are against most enemies that -2 is, outside the first turn, not that useful as they're probably already close enough. Also you're orks, you're probably racing towards the enemy so you can get within 9 inches since that's where all our shooting/stratagems must be to actually be worth it...
Boomdakka snazzwagon is -1 to hit to nearby non vehicle/monster enemies. So it's also -1 in melee, that's the most important part of it. Put this by your other units and the enemy might be less inclined to charge them, but honestly probably not, ork speed freaks ain't that dangerous in melee especially when not on the charge, but it might help a bit so, eh... Having it move up/charge with your bikers can help limit enemy fightback too. Just remember speed freaks take up a LOT of space with all their big oval bases, so far to often I can't actually get this in a charge along with the others, as there's no space or they have to go around so far to get past my other bases up front. Hence... defensive is what it often is most reliable at.
Also it's shooting is purely anti infantry, and with an average of about 4-5 wounds against most infantry depending on range, with most at AP1, it's.... alright. This thing up close at ideal range can maybe kill one space marine or like 3 or 4 gaurdsmen. At 80 points it's only... ok. The problem is that anti infantry is not what speed freaks lack, it's what they're flooded with.
For the argument on the jet and it's mortals, deffkoptas is much better, they can inflict them on normal moves, while still shooting. Mixed with being smaller based and fly lets them move around much more freely. Also they are arguably the best speed freeks unit in general. Megatrakk scrapjet mortals is only on a charge, and with it needing a 2+ to get d3 mortals, or a 6 for auto 3 mortals.
It's shooting is a bit odd, being two twing linked big shootas, and then rokkits and wing missiles. It's ok at shooting, but is split oddly between anti light infantry, and anti heavy infantry. But still not great or that good at either for the cost.
My experience with ork speedfreek buggies is... they can be sorta fun, but they take up tons of space and logjam your movement, and honestly they aren't really worth it points wise. For combat they're all a bit lacking, relying on that speed and utility. The problem is when ALL of them are like that, the speed freaks tend to just be lacking reliable damage, so against some armies their limits weapons counter they do ok thanks to the mobility helping you, but against others you just bounce off and are screwed.
Also, the mobility doesn't let you all flank to one side like you might hope, again, too many giant bases cover the entire deployment zone, you basicly mob rush forwards across the whole board, taking up more space than green tide or such does even. It's not competitive, but it can be fun, though losing too many times is itself, not fun. Still, against newer players who don't screen, use cover, and deploy too far forward for you to do turn one charges or stuff on, (and space marines in general since rokkit spam counters their infantry well) it can be ok and rarely good. Against some others, ya you're basicly screwed going into it. Army, and buggies especially, require some real ballance tweaks, and not just points changes, oh god if they lower the cost I'll be forced to put even MORE units in reserves to avoid having them destroyed pre turn 1 when I can't find the space to fit them in my deployment area (not to mention my large carry case is fully maxed out with my current 2k speed freaks list, I have space for about 2 more bikes, or 7 more normal infantry in it, no space for another buggy or anything though.
Unless your mixing paints to make a certain shade. Which is unlikely, as I always stick to the different pots of citadel paint. Why would you even want this? The Citadel Palette Pad or a wet palette works well.
It's better to have white silicon so the underlying color doesn't distort what color you put down. Especially if your working with similar colors.
I wanted to your typical mad max orcs with these wagons. but i realized i hate painting orcs. It's chaos.
The Wartrike is essentially a 6th buggy.
I bet the servo skull palette is going to be great for shades/washes and contrast paints, the problem is the GW price because I bet it'll be like 15 or 20 dollars
The problem with rewatching Fury Road is you'll need to immediately acquire, build and paint Mozrog Skragbad as an Orky Furiosa. Note: this is not a problem
Their plastic models are fantastic. Never buying GW resin again
Just print brother.
Hydra Dominatus.
@@UnicornstalkRGaming it isnt just print, you need printer, and place for it
@@UnicornstalkRGaming You like shoes bro? Just learn to cobble.
@@imthelizardking or you can find a local printer to so it for you
He really had more to say! Wow!
The Dragstaa is cool, but...those tires are WAAAAAY too smooth, right? I'm not crazy?
The jay finest paint brush got me.
Aww my I've never thought about an all buggy list as someone who loves making memey lists. RED GO FASTA!
the only gw paints i keep on hand are blood angels red and apothecary white because the saturate my reds and bleach my prayer seals
Ups, all da buggiez! Whaaaaaaaagh!❤ EDIT: Playing orks is like a coin toss, sometimes you get wacked off the board, sometimes you krump your oponend into the dirt and both outcomes are pure stupid fun!👍
I got to disagree. As a fantasy painter you can never have too many browns and creams
I remember when Speed Freaks came out. I was so hopeful that it was going to herald a return of Gorkamorka. Unfortunately it was just a one off to hype and sell the buggies.
Games Workshop, can we PLEASE get a Gorkamorka reboot!?
Jay with those GAINS!! 💪💪
Love your work and your unique perspective in this hobby ❤
don´t get the silicone popers as a pallet, go to the baking and get spherical mold trays, same idea, but better color and a bit bigger
I just use a tile.
I believe the new buggy sculpts are to support their new ‘Speed Freeks’ demolition derby themed game
The servo skull palette exists purely for the novelty, its a cool item for collectors which is a pretty big market but I'm not personally interested.
I might go as high as US$10 for the Servo-Skull palette, but no more than that.
I'm expecting a price closer to 30 bucks though.
"UNLEASH THE POWER OF THE SERVO SKULL!!!"
The Megatrakk Scrapjet is the only buggie to actually look like an Ork vehicle. The others are so strange and wrong.
I still have some original citadel inks
There's been a faint rumor of dropper bottles for GW... Would make sense for this palette.... Shades and contrast are good from the pots... A $2 gladware wet palette is a better option if no droppers...
I like the pallet it very cute that’s enough for me . I want more even though I shouldn’t
Holy hell I think I’ve been watching old videos because I caught this one and half of you seems to be missing. Assuming you aren’t sick congratulations!
They just need to join the majority of the industry and get rid of pots and switch to dropper bottles. Makes mixing in ratio much easier for airbrushing and loading on wet pallets without wasting any paint..