How it's made - Omega forged pistons - Part 3
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- Опубліковано 25 лют 2020
- Pistons aren't round - here's how the experts at Omega Pistons machine a competition 73.5mm A-Series forged piston.
Part 1 - • How it's made - Omega ...
Part 2 - • How it's made - Omega ... - Авто та транспорт
YT Algo finally recommended something I am interested in!
Loved this. Learned so much. What a knowledgable gentleman he is, so lucky you guys have someone so smart working with your team.
Incredible demonstration of skill, knowledge, and diligence at your work. Thank you for this series of videos, loved all three very much.
I think it is the best and most educational forged piston manufacturing process video on YT. Congratulations!!! I didn’t expect that the details of the so called oval shape based on the design would be that sophisticated. I believe the quality of that phase alone makes the biggest difference between the brands. However, I would expect Omega to cover the common skirt and top side coatings. May be a in a Part4.
Thank you
All this hands on work, these must be pricey.
The you so very much for these three 3⃣ videos Omega Pistons. Enlightening indeed 🤔
Very informative Phil. Nice to see Alex working too.... ;-)
great video, especially the conversation with Phil...what a kind and very knowledgeable gentleman!
hi from usa great series now i know why my BB Chevy forged pistons were $1200 freakin dollars hahah
Very Good.
Thanks for taking the time to include us in this series of videos.
Definitely worth watching.
You can always tell a brummy, but you can,t tell him much.British skills at their best.
Not a brummy, from the Black Country, don't get them confused ;)
Wow...i watched all three parts and must say ...very impressed...i had zero clue to the amount of high quality that goes into your product...
I think the coolest part is the skirt profiling
It makes you very proud that we have such fine engineering and skilled people in our country
Absolutely brilliant! What a awesome set of guys
So cool to see how things are made. Beautiful workmanship.
I would love to hear Phil’s thoughts on thermal coating the piston tops and anti friction coatings on the skirts. :)
Same!
This was a fascinating 3 part series, like others, I learnt a lot. I am not in the market for any pistons but if I did I would not hesitate to purchase some Omega pistons
This was so interesting. Thank you for sharing!
Learned a lot today. But i cant help but noticed proton motorsport article back there 😊. Cheers from Malaysia
Splendid work.
Very interesting, great info. thanks. Keep up the great work MED team, Omega team @ Phil!! 👌
Very nice,and tecnhnically very correct work.
just wow im impresed hard. Respect Alex
Excellent stuff, thanks.
Very interesting.
Number 3 video. Now I know, thanks for ths.
I always thought forged pistons were expensive, now I realize they are quite cheap
Thank You for this Information ℹ️
Man... This is close to aeronautical precision machining... If one day I get to work or own a shop like this, I wish I'll have such experts in handeling CNC machines like them. Their knowledge is priceless and really adds value to the part they make. Keep the good job going !
aero pistons are not made to this precision.
@@alexjohnward I wasn't talking about aero pistons but aero parts. I'm pretty sur aero pistons have smaller tolerances
@@gambero972 find an aero piston that is made to higher tolerances than Omega make.
Great job
Really cool
Great little series, I wonder what tolerances Porsche used on my old a Cayennes V8 forged pistons back in the day.
Dankeschön 🍀
I have a set of forged pistons (J E) in my motorcycle.
Great insight into quality production methods .
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very interesting, wish you good business and if one day i'll modify my engine i'll definetly buy from you
Cool won't the engraving on the piston's top (the Omega brand) affect the air to fuel mixture?
God bless.
Do you have standard piston templates for specific brands of engine or vehicle? That are off the shelf as it were?
Whats the (dis)advantage of using 7075 vs 2018 ?
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do you calculate how much material is preventing the pin from yanking out the bottom of the piston by looking at the amount of web above it.. and do you ask for customers when they have an engine failure to send the damaged pistons back for analysis.. do you offer info on piston expansion rates above normal operating temps .. i am thinking about the rash of piston, ring, cylinder bore failures on the ford GT350 engines with the 180 degree cranks.. where the high boost and high rpms seem to expand the rear most pistons in the block causing them to scuff and pile up aluminum transfer weld under the rings.. either breaking the ring lands or lifting the rings off the cylinder walls letting combustion gasses thru killing the engines.. probably do to a lack of cooling around the back cylinders in the block at such high speed that the water pump impeller is cavitating and reducing mechanical cooling system pressure in the block or just reducing coolant flow.. too much for the oil squirters to cool the piston crowns from the bottom for the short duration high rpm these engines can do. the 180 degree crank removed crank whipping that pulled the main webs out of windsor blocks for decades. and a few mod motors. heating the pistons in something like a mobil 1 oil. and quickly taking a measurement of them. or streaming a blended flame at the top to keep the temp just below the melting point. to see how much they expand.. allowing engine builders to machine in extra clearances and ring gaps for the rear cylinders to reduce repeat and very expensive failures. ford charges $38,000 USD for those engines.. so they are not a normal mustang V8..
just late night thoughts to kick around the R and D table at breakfast..
i am taking you have a piston forge also. takes heated ingots and deforms them into beautiful forged pistons blanks.
has anybody ever come to you about making other items out of forged aluminum that could be done in your machines with only tooling being needed . expand your production profits. what those products might be???? small forged brackets for light aircraft perhaps..
Hi Wayne, we just retail the A-Series pistons ourselves so you're probably best to contact Omega direct with these questions. Mini engines we can help with!
You might like to check out this video. Omega are very diligent when designing a piston and it is good to talk to them about the idiosyncrasies of the engine, like uneven cooling in the block. There is a wealth of experience at Omega. They don't give away too many secrets but you always get a great job. ua-cam.com/video/Jr6qk5wCPEQ/v-deo.html
It's a shame Omega take so long to respond to requests and turn things around as their product quality is excellent. They don't seem to be interested in making money and have probably lost a lot of business that way.
I was given an acralite piston last year. I understand they are omega now?
Omega bought Accralite in December 2009 and continue to make the Accralite brand through their own workshop wit ex Accralite staff and Omega staff.
@@Omega-Phil Thanks for the information, it's a Ducati corse piston for a 996 race bike. Hope it works ok. 😎👍
Are A series blocks still being made?
They are not, no. Production stopped in 2000, although there are rumours of re-cast Cooper S blocks coming to the market soon. There's no shortage of original blocks yet, but the prices are creeping up a touch year-on-year.
@@MEDEngineeringTechVideos How big a market is racing A series engines? As to me it does look big enough to keep specialist companies such as you and Omega pistons going?
@ It's huge! Our sales have been increasing year-on-year, especially overseas.
@@MEDEngineeringTechVideos Can you provide me with an e-mail? Please
I want to be a sales representative in Thailand
lol. not one actual shot of an elliptical turning operation...
the other videos were more shop based. this was mostly just two guys talking.
yeah yeah, proprietary. but see enough to know... um, thats one hella expensive spindle. not something youre about to copy any day...
keep the tolerance whilst dealing with inertia, a tapered cut, and maintaining ideal feedrates and DOC?
good fun :)
Why are they so blimmin’ expensive??
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Audio could be better... speaks too quickly, drops his voice, mumbles. I have to leave. Too bad.
The you so very much for these three 3⃣ videos Omega Pistons. Enlightening indeed 🤔