Real Lawyer Reacts: Chad Daybell's Best Witness - But They Were Called By The State!
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The only thing I got from Prior drilling the coroner is that Chad would have been arrested sooner if she was more thorough in doing her job
Totally agree!!!
Agree
Her voice and manner just makes me cringe.
Truth. She just looked incompetent and like yes they had questions, but she screwed up the investigation. But she did say Chad was the one saying everything, and that Chad could have easily bought all the OTC things, it would be perfectly reasonable. At this point as a juror, you would not be able to say for sure he is guilty of anything. But they have just started scratching the surface of the evidence.
WELL SAİD!!! 👏 👏 👏
A lot of my friends don't have health problems and they use essential oils. The only problem Tammy had was Chad
An UN essential husband!
@@r1133rocco God SO true, a totally unessential husband! Poor Tammy was the breadwinner throughout that 30 year marriage, a smart, dynamic woman working hard to pay the bills and raising his five kids, while the decidedly unimpressive, undynamic Chad toured religious events selling himself as a prophet (what a joke), and pushing his Godawful, self -published books.
All a total ego trip - funded by Tammy. Then Chad meets another ruthless freeloader like himself (Lori - also supported by her spouse Charles throughout her marriage), and betrays her first with the affair, and then by murdering her for his freedom to re-marry plus $460k life insurance cash so he won't have to get a job.
It's truly sickening to see Prior body shaming Tammy, a super fit, super capable and hard working woman, who was always way too good for her self-centred slob of a husband.
@@glamdolly30Well said!
I agree whole heartedly!
Prior made women hate him with the line that started "I don't want to be disparaging...."
The level of Prior body shaming Tammy was sickening 😢
SOME women.
He is so condescending to all witnesses. I wanted to slap him when he was victim blaming JJ and insinuating Tammy was fat and unfit.😡
I may not exactly hate him, but I sure find him a despicable disgusting man who is grandstanding in front of the camera and that was evident today after the jurors left for the day. The state arguing why they wanted a person to testify, and also said that Prior aggressively cross exams with his information and is well prepared and will have a chance to cross exam this witness. When it was time for Prior to argue why he did not want this person to testify, he stated immediately with, well I want to thank the state saying in front of world television on the things he said about me. I mean who does that.
Prior body shaming Tammy. He in my opinion has no room to talk about her body! He is not in my opinion in any shape… except round! What a POS!
Oh - and if you’re an EMT/Coroner in a very small town, homicide is not going to be your first go to cause of death.
There’s a big difference between a Coroner and a Medical Examiner. Coroner’s don’t have to have medical training. Medical examiners are physicians. It’s totally ok for her to say the physician (who’s a trained medical professional) found issues that changed her mind. I don’t think this is that big of a deal
Then why did she give a cause of death as pulmonary edema etc…..
It is because it was months after Tammy's death. Two months or so. That's a problem, IMHO. If there were no marks on Tammy's body, then it is a huge problem and we will have a battle of experts later.
It’s only 2 months later because the husband declined to do an autopsy (b/c he knew what they’d find). Her diagnosis of “Pulmonary Edema due to a Cardiac Event” is simply based on a basic external physical exam and Chads description of events (she was slowing down, getting weak and had pink foam around her mouth). It’s a very general explanation for a cause of death. It’s the same reason you see a lot of “Cardiac Arrest” as causes of death. It simply means the heart stopped. But an Autopsy is needed to determine WHY the cardiac arrest happened and that can only be determined by a Physician and an Autopsy. Thats why the state exhumed her and did what should have been done in the first place. The Physician determined (based on an external AND internal examination of her body…asphyxiation! you know what happens when a person is being asphyxiated? Pulmonary edema leading to cardiac arrest. Hopefully the state just explains it…not that big of a deal!
@@laurenmay2098 She died of asphyxiation. There doesn’t have to be marks on the body when you’ve had a pillow put over your head. The large amount of pink fluid in her lungs will be damning when the ME testifies.
Yes. You are right. Coroners are not doctors and make decisions based on what has been presented to them.
Chad lied… he said Tammy was violently throwing up and then he helped her back to bed…. Autopsy says her stomach was FULL!
Not full, with food content. Did you see how it is hard to get the right information to get in a room to deliberate? We must to stick with facts and not what we think he heard. Prior grilled her and made her to say it. It was food she ate after throwing up. And it wasn't full but with some content. Our emotions should be out. I want it Chad to be held accountable.
@laurenmay2098 I appreciate that you said that very much. I am as guilty as anyone when it comes to getting emotional about this case...🙃 😬 BUT, the justice system shouldn't work like that. And why I love this channel and a few others that show us how the justice system really works 💪 👷♀️ 👏 😄!!
He lied? Surprise! His story had her feet all over the place. Out of bed, then tangled in sheets, and, finally, hanging over the edge of the bed.
@@laurenmay2098 No you’re wrong. You need to listen again. Prior didn’t say it was food she had eaten after she’d thrown up. The prosecution believes that Chad was lying about the vomiting because food was found in her stomach. Pryor was trying to insuate that when she vomited, she didn’t vomit all of her stomach contents.
@@tammypierce3250 Prior even said she ate French fries and a burger, did we watched the same trial?
Prior just comes across as a misogynistic bully and I don’t think he is doing Chad any favors. He is very good at deflecting, as if the crime here is Tammy’s autopsy….its ridiculous.
Question?? Tammy’s death as described by Chad , “he pulled up covers and she slid out of bed”. I’m not a rocket scientist, but she was dead weight (forgive me) how has this NOT been questioned? I have a 90 lb dog, there is no moving covers when she is on them!!
I thought the same. If she was already dead how did she move? Why aren’t mentioning that
Even if the bedding was silk, I totally agree with you. Rigor mortis was set in by then and her body would have been heavy. Chad is pipe dreaming! He's as guilty as sin!
@@whiteroses47I agree. There’a a lot more evidence and many more testimonies left to show.
Yup his story makes zero sense in reality.
Totally agree! I feel like the prosecution could have done a much better job the first half of the day. Thankfully Lindsay Blake came in and did a much better job
Chad's own words afterwards are what will seal his fate. How will his attorney explain his messaging to Lori saying he's sad, but not for the reason that everyone thinks. That pretty much is proof that his sobbing in front of the coroner was all an act.
Also his comment in the back of the police car to Emma, “I won’t be coming back!”
Any opinion on what Chad might have meant when he said that he was “sad but not for the reason that everyone thinks”?
@@doracotterell2863 In the context of the message it's inferring he misses Lori rather than his wife who he should be mourning.
When I found my husband dead on the lawn, the officer told me that an autopsy was mandatory for an unattended death. But after waiting for the mortuary which is also the coroner in our small county, I remembered my security cameras which caught everything. Once the officer watched the video of his dying, they said no autopsy was needed that it obviously was a heart attack.
Coroners are NOT medical examiners and are elected. They make mistakes! They aren’t necessarily that knowledgeable about what to look for! I can’t believe she didn’t wait to fill out cause of death for a month! If she had and learned how fast he got remarried, she may have realized his stories were fictitious about Tammy!
What changed her mind was the lie that Chad told her that she threw up and she really didn't . There was still undigested food in her stomach that wouldn't have been there if she did throw up. The medical examiner said the bruises were not old. Evidence is what changed her mind. The prosecution should have made that known again.
They will.
Honestly SHE should have been able to confidently articulate that if it were the truth
@@rosep8481 but isn't that the point? She clearly is not a confident person.
Tammy died AFTER Tylee and JJ. All Prior did was prove that she was inexperienced at the time Tammy died. It means that the way Chad killed Tammy was not obvious enough, especially without the context of an affair and other deaths and disappearances.
Exactly. No one in Chad’s “regular” life even knew he had been having an affair with Lori for almost a year at that point. They had no reason to be suspicious of him. IMO LE had enough probable cause to exhume Tammy.
That is what I thought. Was he trying to say Chad killed her but you missed it?
But the welfare check on JJ had not happened yet so no one knew the kids were missing.
his own words to the coroner would get me to convict for tammy. “likes to sleep with feet out because she’s hot” yet “her top half had fallen off because her feet were tucked in the covers”
That’s a great point! He’s trying to have it both ways. I hope the prosecution nails him on that at some point!
I agree. He also told his sister in law that her feet fell off first if I remember correctly so he told her the exact opposite of what he told the coroner.
THIS!
I think Tammy was in this position because she had been fighting for her life! The mattress being moved would indicate a struggle in my opinion.
Right I thought that discrepancy should have been emphasized
It’s lividity not lipidity Or stupidity like John Pryor
Ha! This literally drove me crazy. I was wanting her to correct him so bad. He said it so many times!
Prior is stupidly lipid. 😂
@@ivory8581I was screaming at the screen.
😂
Prior, lol, his name is John Prior, lol.
Body shaming Tammy made me wanna puke! Prior and his client being the poster of “a fit body” is priceless! To shame the victim as if Chad cheated bc Lori was beautiful is sickening! Tammy was more beautiful than that woman could ever be !
I’d love to see them both doing the high intensity workouts Tammy did.
Yes, and I think I actually saw Chad hang his head, which is the first human reaction I've seen of him. When they played the 911 tape, where Tammy was calling about the paint gun incident. It seemed like he could hear her voice and felt bad. Felt bad for the first time since I've been following this case. Usually he's void of human emotion.
@@santafebites I don't think Chad felt bad at all - his lawyer touched his shoulder in sympathy during the 911 recording, and he suddenly started 'dry crying' and grabbed a tissue. Just Prior and client putting on a show for the jury.
When photos of Tammy's corpse were displayed in front of him, his wife of 30 years and mother of his five children, Chad had no reaction whatsoever! Heartless POS let Alex Cox into the family home late at night as his kids slept, and helped him pin Tammy down and suffocate her. Just think about that. He has no feeling whatsoever for his first wife!
Tammy was a problem that had to be got rid of - her death would give Chad the freedom to marry Lori, which he did almost immediately, 2 weeks later, and a life insurance cash windfall of almost half a million dollars to begin his new life with his 'goddess'. Because a divorce would have meant losing, not gaining money - and God forbid the fake prophet (or his new bride), should have to work for a living like everyone else!
Poor Tammy must have been so terrified and confused in her last desperate moments alive. Her husband's betrayal is horrific and utterly monstrous.
Ditto
It never occurred to Mr. Potato that if he made > $2K per year, Tammy could have afforded all of the Botox, hair dye & plastic surgery (boob job & tummy tuck) that Lori had, thanks to Charles' good income. Tammy financially supported Chad while he wrote his silly books & cheated on her. Basically Lori & Chad killed their meal tickets when they murdered their spouses. Thank goodness Charles changed his beneficiary! But she still fraudulently received SSI benefits from the kids & widow benefits.
I’m a funeral director in IL, I know my statutes inside & out. ALSO, yes, she did screw up an unintended death. I have seen enough deceased bodies in 25 years to know she missed this by a mile or 5. PLUS-a Forensic Pathologist would have gotten it right if there was an autopsy.
Did you mean to say unattended death? Big difference between the two words.
Yes susan,
and there was.
they exhumed her body, thank God, and found her actual cause of death and that is why we are here today. Or one reason.
Susan,
And it was a forensic pathologist I think that did her autopay or an ME.
@@BuddhaBeanie unintended as in unnatural
Wouldn’t an autopsy be more reliable then assessment by this witness.
Pray that the jurors are smart.....If the prosecutor had her hands in the choosing, we're good!
Yes but I think they actually try to avoid them because of cost and waiting times. If they can get away with not doing an autopsy they do. Chad specifically said he didn’t want to, played up about her health…exaggerating IMO to make out she was really sick, when in reality she wasn’t, she was in good overall health as said by everyone EXCEPT Chad ….plus the super fast burial …very suspicious IMO.
@@shaz8486 It's frankly a miracle Chad didn't have Tammy cremated, as Lori always had her former spouses cremated double quick - I bet he regrets that now!
@ Idaho4..,will the coroner CM be on the stand? Sorry I’m off topic :) The state on this case is a driller!
Ty 4 the video
@@glamdolly30 i agree and probably the only reason he didn’t was because it would have caused too much of an outcry by all the family, including his children. He got away with a quick burial, but I don’t believe he would really have wanted that. Lucky it was a burial…. Tammy couldn’t suffocate herself…. OR fall off the bed, IMO Chad is 110% guilty!!!
States and counties should not be relying on elected coroners with no training as medical examiner’s to make determinations on cause or means of unattended deaths especially of young and healthy people! What a mess!
I mean…this wasn’t unattended. But regardless it seems like a bad system.
I think by any measure she should have sent the body for investigation. She obviously didn’t seize, Chad would have woke, and a 40 year old passing peacefully beside their partner in their sleep of ANYTHING that would make you have bloody foam in your mouth…I can’t think of a single thing. Usually even a 40 years old would wake with chest pain or have some symptom prior to a massive heart attack. It it were a lethal arrhythmia there would be no foam. A seizure could have bloody sputum but without a formal diagnosis and their partner not waking to a seizure
I can't imagine how many murders are not investigated. It is quite unbelievable.
What a shame that coroners are not better trained to make these assessments. Their decisions make a huge difference on whether the death was natural or a homicide.
@@laurenmay2098so many murders are determined to be suicide or accidental just because of what the witness says…ALL deaths of anyone young and without a written medical reason, being treated by a Dr for it that can be fatal, ( apart from seriously old age) should ALL have an autopsy to determine cause of death. This “family doesn’t want it” is so wrong. I know my dad didn’t have one, but he had had a heart attack, then several months later a massive heart attack, the ambos worked in him for 30mins, got him breathing and was on life support for almost 3 days when he passed away. We didn’t want him “cut up” either, but it was only for research 43 years ago, our thinking back then isn’t what it is now. Our son was killed in a MVA and he had to have an autopsy, we had no say in the matter. The way it should be on all deaths in reality…..
I disagree. He yelled at her, spoke to her as though she was a complete liar, and was sarcastic, and jurors don't like that. It's not her fault that there is no money for medical examiners in most jurisdictions in the US. The policy of using elected coroners in this country rather than MEs is shocking and is seriously in need of fixing. If you don't live in a heavily populated area, it's likely that you will be seen by an untrained coroner, who may miss the signs of cyanide poisoning even if your dead body is tied in a knot and the whole house smells of almonds! She has NO medical educating, and is left on her own to figure out how and why people die suddenly. I was very surprised however, that her training didn't include recognizing frothy pink foam as a sign of suffocation. Even I knew that one. But I thought that even though she was practically whispering at the end of her testimony, she stood firm and didn't let him force her to surrender the field.
I though Prior was pretty funny repeatedly referring to "lipidity," instead of "lividity." He has an odious personality.
Is that true that frothy pink foam coming from the mouth is a sign of suffocation… ? never heard of that… but prior to this, never had reason to have such knowledge.
as a non american im absolutely shocked that MEs don't take the role of coroners over there. what do you mean elected coroners? do they have an election campaign or something? who elects them? on what grounds? im extremely surprised by this
He destroyed the coroner, however he went so far with his viciousness that he proved she didn't recognize the issues.
I hadn’t thought about that but you’re right!
Juries don't like bullies. His obnoxious attitude may have scored some points, but he also made a tactical error - he picked on a witness.
Especially when she was being non combative. Why are you being vile to someone who is cooperating? That man has zero nuance. His only mode is “attack”.
Agreed, Prior may have won the battle, but his aggression was a misstep that will help him lose the war!
Well stated. I agree
The medical examiner has not yet testified! This person only has an EMT plus a few hours of extra training. I felt so sorry for her. She learned more during Tammy’s actual autopsy by working next to the actual ME and being shown her mistakes and misjudgment. GIVE HER A BREAK! She was humiliated on the stand and expected to function at a much higher level than her education allowed.
Exactly. The ME was very strong at Lori’s trial. Especially is stark contrast to the coroner. To me the Daybell kids will be the key to reasonable doubt.
So odd that more qualifications aren't required...
@@Dayoldgritsagree with you, if at least two of the kids back Chad up, it will be difficult. Prior will put an expert to dispute the autopsy.
@@DayoldgritsI disagree about the importance of the Daybell kids. First of all, they are biased in favor of their dad. Second, they seem like they are all conditioned by their religious upbringing to believe every word their father says. Third, points one and two prevent them from being critical thinkers, therefore they are unable to draw independent conclusions based on facts. If they were, they’d have realized long ago that their dad is a compulsive liar and wanna-be cult leader.
@@DayoldgritsI have watched other trials where the children testify on behalf of the parent they support. Usually not credible. The prosecution is going to pull apart their emotional theories.
I cannot stand Prior’s manner of speaking
My stomach curls when he speak and I think the jury feels the same
Me too! I can’t watch it live when he’s on cross. I have to wait for someone to recap the day bc I would be in jail with Lori! Lol
Me too
Peter: Trusting that the jury will believe Prior that that the original coroner's report is the correct and definitive one, is crazy. I know you found Prior's cross compelling, but I'm sorry, that initial report is moot. It was incorrect and the state has plenty of evidence that shows why it was incorrect. You can't pull out this one cross examination and pretend it will sway the jury one way or the other. Given Prior's vicious behavior, his cross is likely so alienate the jury even more. I don't get what your analysis is supposed to achieve. The coroner was incompetent. Point. But that's the only point Prior won here.
I agree. I didn’t find this cross compelling at all and Prior’s attitude and tone disgusts me and only makes me feel bad for the person he is verbally attacking.
Also, even if you don’t find this woman credible as a witness the evidence of him telling people she would be dead soon even though Tammy was healthy and the texts with Lori about timelines still makes me believe he is guilty. This witness doesn’t cancel all that out in my mind if I was a perspective juror.
Prior is going to bring experts to scrutinize the autopsy. Wait and see it. I rather see him fighting than what Lori's lawyers did. It was no defense.
Prior lost points with me today when he started disparaging Tammy’s body shape and body mass. The audacity of that man, who could only hope to be as physically fit as Tammy, to imply even the in slightest that Tammy was fat or out of shape really made me angry! He and his client should get off their high horses and look in the mirror at their own body shapes and body masses and shut up about Tammy’s.
@@BlueEyedSongbird agreed. Victim blaming and shaming is a sure defense strategy to lose cases.
I think all Prior proved was that an inexperienced coroner took the word of Chad Daybell , the husband and made a decision based on an emotional scene rather than real evidence. If I were on the jury I would not be basing my final decision on the word of someone who really should not have been making this decision and I've got to wonder how many homicides were overlooked because of inexperience.
And who admitted her initial findings were wrong.
I think Peter's take on this is myopic. This is a 10 week trial and there's a lot more to Tammy's death than the coroner's report. The biggest thing to me is how does a stiff cold dead body fall off of the bed unless Chad was deliberately pulling the sheets so hard as to move the body? Also, according to his telling of the story, when he noticed she fell out of bed, his reaction was to tell her to "get up." Really? What about, "are you okay?" Or "whoa, what happened?" What a piece of💩.
I also think that Prior discrediting the coroner actually bites him in the butt. The jury rules have in there that it's their job to determine if they should believe all, some or none of a witness's testimony. She was so bad (either at her job or testifying or both), that I think that puts her testimony in the just ignore it all together since it's not reliable. And in doing that, I think the defense lost any gain they were hoping to get by pointing out that she didn't perform an autopsy the first time and that she said it was a natural death. The fact that those on the scene didn't have alarm bells going off in their heads because a dead stiff cold body rolled out of bed, just shows they did a poor job at the scene.
I thought the same thing! He said he told her to get up and get back in the bed. What?! 😮
I believe the ME report over an elected coroner’s opinion. That evidence hasn’t technically been presented yet.
Surely the jury can come to the same conclusion.
Wait until Prior put his experts on the stand. He will scrutinize the whole autopsy.
Especially when this elected coroner was just a few months into that position.
I reached the same conclusion when the coroner in the Kohlberg/Idaho 4 case gave a tv interview about the murders of the 4 college students. In fact, wasn't the coroner in that case also a defense attorney in Idaho?? Expecting elected coroners in Idaho, from a variety of professional backgrounds, to have anywhere near the knowledge that a medically certified pathologist has, is beyond ridiculous. It's like expecting a person who has taken a CPR course o be able to perform heart surgery. Hopefully the prosecutors can emphasize the difference when they put their actual medical experts on the stand. I swear sometimes the prosecutors, except for Lindsay Blake, seem asleep at the wheel in this trial.
@@judyannstreich7499Yes, the coroner in Moscow, ID is also a defense attorney. 😳
The coroner was a horrible witness, her timidity was awful and she appeared unknowledgable
I couldn’t stand her attitude and her soft spoken “yes’”
Horrible witness and looked unprepared.
@@Monica-gene1gosh, she was acting like 15 years old? C'mon, she is a professional.
She sound it like she was having orgasm doing phone play
She admits lack of extensive experience, she should not have been left to this death on her own. Thank God for the exumation
The only people falling for defence drama is Chad's kids... There is too much evidence for anyone to not see he is a Devil.. he may not get death penalty that's cz juries don't like giving them... But he is not escaping this
The jurors do not know what we know. It is good, but for Tammy, I don't think the prosecution is doing to good yet. Let's wait and see it.
Ppl always get so mad at defense attorneys but it is their literal job to “zealously” defend their client. He comes off like a jerk but he is just doing what he was hired to do. I think the totality of the evidence will result in chad being guilty on all counts but the states case in regards to just Tammy is very weak.
@@Sara-bv9ui34:09 34:14
@@Sara-bv9uiIt is weak until you put all the pieces together. I hope they have some smart jurors on this case.
My sentiments exactly. That’s what I believe the bottom line will be provided the defense doesn’t pull another few rabbits out of their hat! Him Guilty.⚖️
As a potential juror, see how aggressive the defense counsel is really makes it hard for me to trust him.
As a potential juror, I see a bad professional giving a testimony. Very bad professional as a matter of fact. I would not trust her testimony at all.
Defense counsel is doing a really good job at his job.
Prior also lied twice. Insisting the medicine was next to the bed when it wasn’t, and cutting off the 911 call before Tammy mentioned gun/rifle. I can’t believe those were mistakes, He is just trying to bully witnesses. He blew all credibility with me.
@@Themrsspilkeryes, and it’s HIS JOB to be aggressive. Chad is an evil man but his life is on the line ….yet ppl hate Pryor for doing his job. If he didn’t aggressively defend him it could be grounds for appeal.
The timeline is SO important….. the kids disappeared and were buried on Chad’s property, in areas that he could SEE from his kitchen window and bedroom window (despite having 4 acres of property) while Tammy WAS STILL ALIVE! Tammy was the last “obstacle,” not the first. Chad didn’t “make the rest happen” after Tammy “happened to die.” The rest had already happened, the kids had already been groomed to expect their mother to die because they believed in Chad’s visions, etc.
She did the best she could based on her experience. Unbeknownst to her she was relying on information provided by the murderer. She has integrity and therefore is willing to acknowledge her mistakes and outline the actions taken to further her investigation and correct the matter. His attack is going to backfire. ⚖️
100% agree. This witness does NOT provide reasonable doubt, imo. No way.
I think she is timid and scared and Prior had her on the run. I don't think she could have told him her own name when he finished with her.
I think she did well given she regretted her decisions at the time of the crime. She didn’t get defensive or fall apart. She admitted her oversights and showed integrity.
I agree, i wonder if the jury felt the way I did - distracted and feeling sorry for this woman??? The ME will come in and fix this
Don't forget they bought wedding rings before Tammy passed. They KNEW she was going to die! That alone solves it for me!
I dont understand why the police wouldnt of been all over Tammy's death, especially when it was 10 days after being shot at
😢 Put yourself in the coroner's place. She responds to a 911 call, a destraught husband reports his wife died over night. Our society teaches us to give "the benefit of the doubt." She did not have all the evidence we do today. There was no obvious sign of murder or suicide and the info she gathers from this seasoned con artist leads her to believe the victim had poor health. I think the jury will pay more attention to the facts (she was cold so had been dead for at least 2 hours, she died on her back, she did not fall out of bed, she did not vomit, her lungs were the only organs that showed damage. Guilty as charged!
Please prosecutors use this 👆 in closing arguments 💯
Agree 100%
The issue for me is how poorly she defended and explained all of this on the stand. She was just a bad witness, how she handled her job is mostly understandable
Yes. B. Of a husband
Then she isn't fit for the job. Also, one of her key functions is to testify in court, when needed. She was horrible. Even before Prior yelled at her, she didn't understand the simplest questions from prosecution (i.e. time of death). I have sympathy for all the families that their close one's cases got fumbled by her.
IMO after the autopsy is finally done with the ME, it nailed Chad.
Sorry but as a potential juror none of this gets me past the fact that he had been talking people that his healthy wife would be dead soon or his texts back and forth with Lori about gen it would be possibly happening (after the kids graduation, etc). I still believe him to be guilty.
Exactly. Should be charged with premeditated murder.
This illustrates the importance of competent death investigation. This is a disservice to that community. Nobody thinks about this until it affects them.
Prior was so hostile! The jury can't possibly like that!!
Kids are BRAINWASHED. Emma is involved. The fact she didn't care and was bothered that the FBI were on thr property trying to recover the bodies was a inconvenience to her... whole family makes me sick!
I agree Emma knows. Chad spent an hour in her home and I’m sure he made up some story. Nobody in their right mind will be calm and laugh in a conversation after being told, human remains have been found. It’s crazy to me and I hope they bring that up in court. If she believes dad was framed why agree to send Lori money in jail? Why not be involve in the case to prove Dads innocence? Just crazy to me
Indeed.
The conversation from the police cruiser was like an episode of the Twilight Zone ~ 👀
@@SweetKarina123I’m not here to back her at ALL, just saying that initially she backed both Chad and Lori then more recently switched to only backing her dad (the kids did a tv interview after the bodies were recovered and weren’t against lori at that time I don’t think). I believe the kids are JUST brainwashed and don’t actually know what their dad did. She even offered up a “helpful” idea to the detective by saying “the body you found is probably one of our dogs”, to which he replied “with all due respect I know what a HUMAN body looks like” (paraphrasing). She was in denial here, because the other option is that she was trying to gaslight him, which is not smart since they were def going to test the remains to figure out for sure who they belonged to. I think Chad told her some BS just to appease her at that time and later he decided to flip on lori to save himself and that’s likely when he told the kids that he was being framed by her.
I believe, because Chad is a Narcissist, he's inculcated into them how Wonder he is. Psychologically they are brainwashed into believing he is so amazing, he could never do anything like that. İt will take repetitive facts being shown and told to them to change their belief about him.
especially when we found out emma went to the gym 2 times a week.. bologna that she was getting weaker and sick. garth and emma helped murder their mother.
There were so many other things. She trusted Chad. Once the circumstances changed, she looked into it further. An actual medical doctor found evidence that she wouldn’t have been able to know on scene. I don’t feel like the defense won anything here.
If they didn’t do a toxicology, all of the talk about what she took or didn’t take is moot.
I agree. How hard is it to fill a cabinet with partially used OTC supplements as part of your alibi? Or take them yourself so they'd already be there? Nothing says that Tammy is the one who purchased or used those products.
@@Melly01same comes up about the Fitbit.
I probably have medications that expired 7 years ago in my medical cabinet. Proves nothing.
The medical examiner did the most thorough toxicology screening he’s ever seen. There was nothing in her system except her 1 prescribed med at a therapeutic dose.
Chad did lie…autopsy showed that her stomach was full. He said she vomited twice. If so then her stomach would have been empty.
That area is a huge area for essential oils. A national company known as Doterra is headquartered in that area. Lots and lots and lots of people use essential oils for any number of things. Stay at home moms sell DoTerra to their friends to help them with just about everything under the sun. It wouldn’t be unusual at all to walk into someone’s home and find essential oils in a medicine cabinet whether they have used it recently or not. The fact that there were essential oils in Tammy’s med cabinet doesn’t change my mind about her status of health. I believe more the people around her that have no reason to be bias. Her children have reason to be bias to protect Chad and he certainly has a reason to be bias. I
I think the state has proved their case - the defense is just trying to find anything they can anywhere they can. Prior is desperate for anything. The state can’t help the fact that the coroner is incompetent.
Exactly what I was thinking with DoTerra since it’s a MLM and popular in that area of the country.
The coroner being incompetent actually works for the prosecution. It explains why the suspicious circumstances were missed initially. Also, I have lots of essential oils in a box in my bedroom and a few of them in my medicine cabinet, but that doesn’t mean I use them every day. In fact, there’s only a few that I use “often” but it’s been months since I’ve even used any of those. The whole essential oil thing is a meaningless argument to me.
I live in Australia and have used that essential oil brand. It’s soooooo expensive here, now my daughter isn’t selling it anymore I’m not paying over $100 for ONE tiny bottom oil. Most are $50 + so …nope they can keep their oils now prices are so unreasonable !!! I used a mixture of 6 different oils for muscle pain.
LIVIDITY. With a V not a P
I think the jury will see the coroner was not trained well enough, and dismiss her first report.
Wish Prior would talk that fast in court😂
I listen to it on double speed. It's the only way.
@@ChristyB123 Good tip!
If I’ve already watched the testimony, I even watch LYK at 1.25x speed. 😂
Okaaay 😅
I couldn’t get past the fact that the coroner, who was newly elected at the time, has only EMT training in her background. After doing some research, I’m shocked to find out that almost anyone can be elected coroner and that they don’t have to be a doctor or pathologist or anything significant education in the medical field!!! Pryor kept saying “Extensive training”, she had a total of 6 days of training 2 days in Boise w4 days in Vegas, before she signed Tammy Daybell’s death certificate! That does NOT sound like “Extensive training” to me.
The second thing that stuck out to me was that dead bodies don’t “roll out of bed”! Any bonus points he got from making this coroner look terrible, he lost by disparaging Tammy by implying that she wasn’t exactly trim and fit. Maybe the men on the jury wouldn’t notice what he was implying, but I’d bet money that this wasn’t lost on the women on that jury.
I think the thing that makes me sad is how people were new and/or left information out initially and bought the story that things were how chad said it.
Its the failings of law professionals over the whole course of this case that has led to 4 people being dead. All it would have taken was someone listening to Charles.
Excellent Point.
If she had a current prescription for anti anxiety meds then she wasn’t opposed to medical doctors, was she. So let’s be clear.
Excellent point.
good point idahardy
That didnt make sense to me either, shes seeing a dr for anxiety and depression but wont see a dr about being anemic and getting weak, takes anxiety meds and all kinds of oils but doesnt take iron supplements for the anemia. I hope somebody on the jury picks up on that
Sharing the with her son might just show she had stopped taking them
@@bonnieparr3502 I sure wouldn’t blame her. She was more than likely having some symptoms of menopause and physicians will offer an antidepressant instead of hormone replacement therapy.
Emma is a daddy’s girl who had been manipulated by her dad.
I wonder how much she knew. The video of them talking in the police car was just shocking to me. Imagine how you'd act if dead bodies were just found in your property. I wonder how much of her dad's doctrine she bought into.
@@ChristyB123 All of it. She was happily talking to Lori in jail, until she decided it was better to blame Lori.
I can’t imagine. During the car conversation two innocent children are being exhumed from the family pet cemetery in the back yard, her mother had recently died in that home, her father is reminding her to send his new wife $30 for jail commissary, and they must have known some one shot something at their mother, at that same home, prior to her death. Their mother WORKED for her family, ensuring they had insurance with her job, and the kids turn their backs on her and give the “ok” when their dad decides no autopsy. They still turn their backs on her when they learn her death was not by natural causes. That she has deep bruising to her arms and the pink foam is from injury to her chest. That her stomach was full, so there was no vomitting. I hope someday they come to their senses and don’t pay either Lori or Chad that money for Jail treats.
Waaaayyyy too much kool-aid in her cup!
@@ChristyB123I know it’s crazy Emma acted like it was nothing having kids buried, burned and cut up in their backyard! Dad our lease is up we will move in here, oh my gosh NEVER! These people are all crazy, they all seem homeschooled…
I'm not sure that this is going to help the defense much. Making her look incompetent feels like it just helps invalidate her original findings and makes the state more credible IMO.
A week-long conference is not an extensive course🤦♀️
tell us how JP is going to get around this-Chad texting Lori that Tammy is now Viola- a zombie- and in the texts he keeps telling Lori how close she is- the bruising- her good health- and trusted witness's...the state needs to play chad sobbing on that 911 call and immediately show a photo of chad dancing on the beach at his wedding 17 days later. the end... #DP4chaddaybell
Lol I already listened to the 911 call when Tammy died. But yes they need to play it so the jury can tell for themselves if it sounds like real sobbing!! Chad’s sobbing was such a bad actor trying to pretend to sob!! Also why is Chad sobbing of Tammy’s death when he’s told many people that Tammy will die before she turns age 51?? It wouldn’t be a shock if he was a true visionary and can see behind the veil!! 🙄🤔
@@famousamos1 and not even a week later he told his friends that he is fine he found the woman he would marry, and she was beautiful. That is not a sobbing husband.
@@arrivagabrythat’s very true and Chad was introducing Lori to his neighbor friends a few days after the funeral services for Tammy. The jury are just normal people like you and I. I’ve been a juror on a criminal case 57yr old grandma selling drugs at Circle K gas station. We all could tell the grandma was guilty. All the state paid defense attorney was trying to do was get evidence or testimony thrown out which didn’t happen.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Arizona does charge Chad after this case, EXACTLY like Lori was charged AFTER the trial ended in Idaho.
Prior keeps pointing that he isn’t charged or associated with those incidents, but I wouldn’t hang my hat on him not being charged if I was his attorney
Well, then they would charge MG, DW, MP, ZP, and AB? I don't think so. Chad is fried already. Arizona is trying to save face by prosecuting Lori. I wouldn't waste the money.
One of the Arizona witnesses said so far they don't have enough evidence for a conviction for him. But that doesn't mean they won't come eventually.
Im thinking they waited for this trial to end also and charges are probably coming
I’m glad I am not a juror on this case. I would have a hard time getting past Prior’s hostile style to even be able to listen to his points.
Funny, I want to see him fighting for Chad. I do not want it to convict an innocent man. Not to death.
He’s not hostile, he’s doing his job and a dang good job at it too
Me too Summer.
I didn't get a chance to watch testimony today, but (from a juror's perspective) I honestly wouldn't find this person a credible witness from the beginning, because I don't understand how she didn't call for an autopsy to begin with. This wouldn't change my opinion one way or another, because I already mentally discarded anything she contributed. She seems incompetent - which, to me, is what Prior is highlighting - vs what is true or not true. I would have made my decision without whatever her input is, anyway. My opinion. 🤷🏻♀️ The person who performed the actual autopsy would be who I would listen to.
She was a bad witness, but I don't think the prosecutor had any choice but to call her.
What she said was she has limited funds for autopsy, so if she doesn't find a need, nor does the family want it then one won't happen. Had the family wanted an autopsy in this situation they would have had to pay for it. I think it's messed up, I think had one person expressed concern about anything then she could have ordered an autopsy.
She said the county doesnt have enough funds to do many autopsies
I've watched a lot of trials, and I've never seen a defense atty I like less than John Prior. Every question is an attack. But not in a professional way. It's like he wants to punch each witness in the face. Like he can't stand the mere sight of them. Not a fan of his delivery at all. Oh and repeating the same sentence 3 times in a row is a little much. Saying: "Before you dug up their mother's dead body" literally THREE times in a row. We get it. We get that you think the coroner is the worst person in the entire world. Unlike your client who literally helped murder kids, and probably murdered his wife!! This lawyer is just unreal. So unbelievably unlikable. And I watched the Amber Heard/ Depp trial!!!
Well said!
He acts like the exhumation was the biggest atrocity two days after police describe excavating two children from his backyard in pieces. Read the room. Yikes!
I see it, but in this case people don't like Prior. I watched plenty and I see both sides grilling witnesses.
Perfectly said.
@@lyndamiller9867 Great point.
How could Lori be charged if Chad is not charged for tammy's death?
Chad is being charged, what are you saying?
Do you mean convicted? Because they were both charged
I mean if chad is not found guilty how can lori be charged with conspiracy in tammy's death
@@annb1274she was tried first, different jury
Lori refused to let her attorney defend her.
I do think lawyers often intellectualise reasonable doubt and forget jurors for the most part arrive at their judgement with a slightly more holistic approach. It might not be a palatable thought to a lawyer but a jury of your peers isn’t a panel of lawyers. Common sense, logic and gut instinct might not be the legal framework but I would like to bet it makes up a significant proportion of jurors’s decision making. As far as the coroner goes, most will appreciate human error doesn’t equal a gotcha. There are few murder trials that are clean and error free and yet most are convicted even so.
She sounds like this is her first time in court
Nope, she looks like she a little girl caught with the hands inside the candy jar. I would be ashamed, nothing for nothing, she is a professional.
Anemia need not be as huge a deal as he is stating. I’ve had anemia which was “cured” when I ate right.
I have one that is generic. I always going to fight. My siblings as well. Some won't live over 50. I am wondering if Tammy had this kind of anemia. It is from blood family line. Maybe her father and mother did not have. But their blood mixture created her anemia. When I was a kid it was easy to me to heal with food. Then I started with meditation and diet. Now is almost impossible to keep up. The problem is being tired. If Tammy had the same as I do, she wouldn't be able to be so active. And she was very active.
I’ve been anemic several times throughout my life. Unless there is some underlying condition for prolonged anemia for which there would be medical record documentation, I’d bet a lot of women have been anemic at some point in their lives. It’s not even that big of a deal unless you’re super anemic.
@@laurenmay2098if that was the case, there would be plenty of medical documentation to back that up. That kind of anemia doesn’t happen overnight.
Me too. Whenever I get the urge to eat dirt I know it's time to boost my iron. No big deal.
@@BlueEyedSongbird like I said, there is one that can be lethal. But I don't think it is her case. You must to have several years of battling and tests to show the anemia.
Anemia in some cases is easily "cured" and doesn't require anything but eating right. I am a case in point after severe anemia and not being able to walk up stairs when I was 25.
I have and it was easy to cured before, not now. Not even with diet and medication. It is from my genes. My siblings all have it and can not donate blood.
Exactly. I wanted the prosecution to bring that up. I hope they do with the ME who is an actual doctor and can speak to that. My daughter just got over a bout of anemia. All it took were supplements. He's acting like it's a fatal disease.
Anemia can also be the result of heavy periods. So no meds would be prescribed.
Every woman has been anemic at least 1 time in her life.
Severe anemia would most likely be noticed. From my experience with it I was as tired, if not more tired than my first trimesters of pregnancy, had a rash in the corners of my mouth, pica(I had to be eating ice ALL the time) and EVERYTHING burned my tongue like it was eXtra spicy salsa. Ketchup, mustard, apples, oranges, everything. After several weeks of iron supplements all the symptoms went away. If Tammy had severe enough anemia to kill her (it can because you dont have enough red blood cells to carry oxygen causes your heart to overwork) there would have been severe symptoms. Mild to moderate anemia will not kill you.
I wonder why they didnt try and get some witnesses from the temple altar fainting? There is no normal point in any temple ceremony where a couple would kneel at the alter alone. There would ALWAYS be someone there to witness, because they keep a record of who witnesses temple ordinances. For some reason this bugs me! Not only that, they keep an accurate record of everyone who attends the temple, including the time of day. It would be so easy to subpeona temple records, really without violating any spiritual beliefs. The church also has records of how to contact the members. If someone fainted at the altar, people would remember it.
They didn’t get a witness because she didn’t faint.
It’s not uncommon for people to faint while kneeling at the alter. Especially if there’s blood circulation issues
I was thinking that myself. It will be interesting to see if Chad has any other people testify in his defense other than his kids and paid expert witnesses. As a juror I would discount the kids’ testimony because they’re biased for their dad, but if he could produce other witnesses to the alleged fainting spells and recent medical records saying that Tammy had health problems, that would carry more weight with me.
@@BlueEyedSongbirdI don't think she would be taking that amount of drugs, even though some were not prescribed if she didn't have some issues. Some people don't take nothing, great health throughout their 70. Others, not that lucky. The prosecutor must to concentrate on the reason why they want it to kill their spouses. Insurance money, greed. To get married and be part of the church of the first born (prophet and goddess), power. And finally, to their own lust for each other. Money, power and lust. He is done, Chad is done.
@@BlueEyedSongbird there are plenty of people who witness that Tammy was healthy, fit, into dancing and physical fitness. Chad is just trying to make sense of his years-long verbalization of his wish for her death/her murder.
If the FBI, or some equally superior org. tells you to exhume a body to make certain you didn’t miss something, then that’s what you do. TS if Prior doesn’t like it. People aren’t perfect and she believed the narrative she was told when she entered the house. Told by a guy who has had multiple people suspiciously become unalived around him within a very short time.
Food in stomach still, rigor, died on back, the jury are regular people like us, so i believe they will come to the correct conclusion, he did it
I surely hope so
there are also stupid people on the jury, intelligence and common sense is not required to be a juror, hence C. Anthony and OJ
Still waiting for Prior to explain how a dead cold body “rolls out bed”
They can't, but dead bodies CAN move.
QUESTION PLEASE… can a witness ask the judge to have Prior stop yelling at her??
Not sure about that. But she can just not answer.
The judge should have admonished him to stop badgering.
I wonder why the prosecution didn’t object when he was being clearly aggressive and argumentative.
lol he isn’t yelling guys….
@@EffSharp
The judge is too much of an eff'ing wimp.
If I was a juror, this coroners incompetence would not phase me for one second. She now admits she made mistakes. Everything Chad did and said at the time, incriminated him. But, after Tammy was exhumed, the proof was in the pudding!
Yes, coroner was pathetic.
But it doesn’t change anything!
He's extremely argumentative!!
It seemed like only after she had heard what had happened, that is when she realized that she should have done more.
Absolutely, so she did and good thing she did. At least she questioned her original opinion and did more.
I don’t think her testimony will hurt much. She was pretty clear that she was new and inexperienced, that nothing at the scene indicated a suspicious circumstance-and that her county doesn’t have the budget for many autopsies. She admitted that she regrets how it was handled, but in the end, she DID seek an autopsy, she attended it in another state, and she followed through. Tammy dying on her back is totally consistent with both sides of the argument. But Prior calling it LEPIDITY is ridiculous. The word is LIVIDITY. The stomach contents are pretty damning. I also suspect that the prosecution has a ton of evidence that we’ll see in coming weeks that will take us well over the line past reasonable doubt & into a guilty verdict. If the coroner turns out to be the best witness for the defense, Chad is toast.
That poor coroner, was so inexperienced and then verbally ravaged on the stand.
The State did nothing!!!! I was so disappointed that the judge and the State allowed this attack on the coroner.
She is experienced enough to hold the position. I don't understand your point. She is working, if she doesn't feel that she can hold the position, leave. But she was acting like an innocent little girl. So bizarre. I like how Prior grilled her. It is a job, do it right, or not do it at all. Try to do that in the private sector, you won't survive. It is that simple. I don't want it Chad do go free, but I do want it Prior doing what Lori's lawyer did not do. Fight for the client and let the system work. The best justice system in the world. Not the perfect, but the best!
Yeah, but she deserved it. The fact is, this was shotty work on her part. Pryor took advantage of that to discredit her and it worked. With that being said, there’s a ton of evidence that still points to him wanting Tammy gone, plus two dead kids in his backyard. So he’s not getting off.
@@tammymorgan9870allowed? Huh? It wasn’t an “attack” just because Pryor called her out for doing a terrible job! That’s called being a good lawyer!
The meat butcher probably knows more than her
The anemia thing doesn’t do anything for me. Anemia almost NEVER kills you. And it’s clear if it did.
Anemia can cause fainting spells and dizziness. But it didn’t kill Tammy. That’s bs and if I was on that jury I’d be really turned off by him harping on anemia.
As an anemic, his claim is absolutely BS. It’s caught before it gets so bad you die. That would take years of medical neglect. Tammy could’ve taken OTC iron supplements since she preferred the natural route. It’s just ridiculous.
and if she never went to the doctor as Chad told her how would he know she had anemia? You need to run blood tests in order to know. Anemia makes you really tiered, you don't go to the gym or prepare for a marathon
I don’t see it as a plus for Chad. I disagree with you completely. To me, it shows how inept this coroner was. She should be removed from office. The ME report will prove that she was murdered.
2 points, Peter- One must remember that to be a Coroner in Idaho is a pulse, an EMT with less than 2 years experience, and complete a 1 week class in 'Vegas and 2 day course in Idaho Falls. They do not require them to be Medical Examiners like most of the other 49 States. So the counter to your points, you're expectations are too high for this backwards State. And the other point is that Chug told her that Tammy was one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel, so that's why she initially called it Natural Causes. HE LIED TO HER (and everybody else in this case, but I digress).
If I knew it was that easy to be a Coroner in Idaho was so easy, I would of done it after I retired from the Navy and double my income! I was a Navy EMT and I have a pulse- UNREAL!!!!
You just articulated how I feel half the time ! One foot on the banana peel and I don’t know where the other foot is heading 😂
Chad texted Lori that he was crying, but not for the reasons they think. I will never forget that.
If I was investigating a death where someone claimed the victim was vomiting in the bathroom and they helped them back to bed, I would look for the telltale small trash can with a bag in it for overnight vomiting.
I think it’s a universal requirement. Although Chad probably didn’t know to do it because he’s never taken care of anyone in his life.
I think people usually vomit in the toilet.
Yes, but in the middle of the night, you may wake up and throw up within seconds. So you need the midnight puke bucket right next to the bed.
A competent defense is essential for our system to work properly. Prior is doing his job and I am happy to see it. Regardless.
Absolutely correct - otherwise Chad would walk on appeal.
All she had to do was say she wasn't real good at her job back then. And thank you for pointing out her failures, that would have gone over with the jury and would have rehabilitated her reputation.
People won't do it. It is rare. She show contempt, IMHO. Dismissive some times.
She kind of did say that when she said she was new in the position when she responded to the incident and pointed out that she is more experienced now. I would have liked her to say that more confidently though. Maybe because she’s elected, she didn’t want to say it too loudly for fear of losing her job?
Not sure how that would help the jury to think daybell was guilty. Her admitting she made a mistake only means that her calling it murd3r was ALSO likely one of her many mistakes.
Could she be implicating herself or opening herself up to a lawsuit or something? I genuinely have no clue. She did say she had regrets.
Actually, the prosecution DID ask her about if she had any regrets and she kind of answered she did.
The jurors are not going to be worried about her testimony.
Agree aida....
Weak .
If I were a juror, I wouldn't put much stock in her testimony.
The coroner messed up that states case that Chad in fact played a role. My mother had a massive heart attack at work at age 52, we had no choice they HAD to do an autopsy. 😢
To me, the most important information from the coroner was that all of the Organs were healthy except the lungs. It really doesnt matter what kind of picture the defense lawyer was trying to paint. Tammy was telling the truth beyond the grave! Tammy's body proves that Chad was lying.
carmen...
SOOOO true!
All i took from this is that the coroner is not qualified 🤷🏼♀️
I disagree. She can only observe the scene , the body and the witness ( Chad Daybell ). She cant see internally the actual cause of death . When you get all the other information of what was going on behind the scene ( affair, murders etc.). It sheds a new light on the whole Tammy Daybell death .
It’s a bit true. If the family seems generally distraught. No fighting or signs of a struggle. Without the contact that this man is having an affair with a woman with missing it dead children and her husband was murdered a couple months ago…maybe it would look less suspicious.
But Chad’s story seemed suspicious to me even without that context. This coroner was just naive to blindly trust the ridiculous story of a middle class white dude.
Please continue covering this case. You are right on in your analysis 👍🏼
Say what you want about Mr. Pryor but I would want him as MY, Defense attorney.
Not me
I’m pretty late joining and watching on delay but with bruising, as a juror, I would be thinking “old bruising” would point towards possible past physical abuse. This strengthens states case for me.
All caught up and thanks so much for the gifted membership whoever gifted🥳❣
Madison county needs to rethink their election of a coroner with little to no experience!! Geez
Think Chud lived in Freemont County (just)
@@helenllamayeah Chud lives right on the border of Madison county but the coroner covers both counties because it’s so small.
Your face in the thumbnail is everyone
😂😂😅 right?
After talking with some medical friends who don’t know this case, are saying it sounds like she was poisoned. Between coughing, vomiting, pink foam at the mouth that wouldn’t stop … Why is that not brought up??
The autopsy done after exhumation wasn’t able to find poison.
@@melanieaveryeasthope3980 oh. Don’t realize that. I wonder if there are undetectable poisons. Just too odd.
Poison detection is tricky because they need to test for whatever substance they are looking for. There are many many poisons. So there’s that.
If I was a juror I would have thought the coroner hadn’t done her job properly.
Yes. Keep covering this trial.
Literally the autopsy showed acute bruising, and that it happened at the time or near death. They looked at the slides under a microscope. They were not old bruises. Why can't she say that?
I hate the way Prior talks to the witnesses.
He is so condescending, I wish he’d just make his point and move on, it’s got to be uncomfortable watching this in person - does he not have 3rd party advisors to help give him perspective on his approach? Or is Chad out of money?
I agree. I understand he is doing his job of defending Chad however I feel like he could make win more points for his side by not being so condescending and aggressive
@@MidnightL2008
He's most likely pissed because he wanted out and the judge wouldn't let him. That is when he really started going off the rails.
Yes please keep covering this. I’ve been worrying that Prior is getting away with a few things & getting on top of this, a previous video you did made me relax a bit on that due to your legal expertise, so please keep doing this
State hasn't called the ME yet!
Wow this was so interesting! Seeing this made me understand why the crown won’t agree to charge the man who murdered my best friend. The medical examiner was 2 months out of school. She wrote the cod as cardiac arrest. As investigators pushed forward it was done again and found to be homicide. Because of the ME screwing up there’s no chance for justice 💔. There’s never justice in 🇨🇦
Oh no I’m so sorry for your friend . That’s why I’m so glad our investigative institutions hold so much weight in America. The truth can be uncovered in time.
@@MyMiracleMomma thank you, it’s been tough. She had a 7 year old daughter as well. America has a way better justice system and everything else ! We call it a law system in Canada cause there ain’t no justice most of the time.
She did admit however, that in October of 2019 she was new to her job & lacked experience...which would explain why her investigation was sloppy.
Thanks for all the coverage.
New subscriber. Thank you for covering this trial. I like how you explain while going through the video.