Yeah hopefully the support for passenger rail travel snowballs so more investors will inject meaningful amounts of money into it. I do enjoy taking a train every now and then for medium distances when I don't want to drive, like during holiday travel times. The headache of airports just isn't worth the extra few hours I would save anymore.
@@godofdun American Airlines removed seats from airplanes to give more legroom, of course the tickets cost more so passengers went to southwest until spirit and frontier came along. Passengers did it to themselves
@@rose415Nah, The automotive and Airline Industries have been AGAINST High Speed Rail for many decades. The US should already have comparable High Speed Rail in many parts of the country. It’s ridiculous that they have been allowed to squelch competition from HSR.
A LOT of those new chargers are being installed in parking garages. So you have to pay to get into the garage and then pay to use the charger…very common in the DC area.
Unless the parking is city taxpayer funded, then yes, the charge probably won't be free. The EVSE wasn't free, nor the installation cost, nor the electricity, nor the maintenance.
As an engineer at a diesel engine manufacturer, we predicted electric power trains would replace diesel by 2030 and gas by 2027. That is why they are building a battery plant in Arkansas, manufacturing portable semi truck chargers in Minnesota, and acquired Meritor power trains. This year, battery packs dropped below $100 in the US, which puts them on par with gasoline power trains. In many countries, they are around $64 per pack. By 2026, electric power trains will be the same as diesel; by 2030, battery replacement costs will be 20% less than replacing engines because nonflammable solid-state batteries are scheduled to go into production in 2026, and LFP will be used in semis.
@@nyxline To date, I do not own an EV other than a couple of eBikes. I was involved in our company's VC leadership group, which examined alternative fuel technologies, including H2, NG, and electric.
Unless EVs have non-combustible batteries, they will be completely eliminated from the market place within 10 years. Even with safe batteries, charging times and infrastructure will limit EV adoption to about 30% - 40% of the market. For commercial use, EVs may never be viable due to charging times and cost of labor.
@@kirkjohnson6638 Non-combustible batteries that do not reduce it range from -20 to 120F will hit the market in late 202 with 7-minute car charging and 14 minutes for semis. Plus, portable chargers are being added to loading docks at DC warehouses. Things will change with 1000 chargers being added per week in the US.
Amazing how all these car companies can build gasoline\electric hybrids but only Tesla can build pure electric cars for the masses. A lot of the car companies have been around over a hundred years, you can't tell me they're not doing this on purpose.
What many opponents of vehicle electrification of any kind fail to understand is the history of ICE vehicles and the facts are they had to tackle the same hurdles in range, fueling issues and safety issues as EVs in their infancy and now we couldn’t imagine travel of any kind in horse and buggies but the facts are our great grandparents had the same opposition to horseless buggies aka automobiles as we do EVs. They will never become a thing they are a fad they will never replace the trusty horse and buggy
With 60,000+ Superchargers, Tesla owns and operates the largest global, fast charging network in the world. Located on major routes near convenient amenities, Superchargers keep you charged when you're away from home. Simply plug in, charge and go. As of fall 2024, Tesla had more than 27,000 individual Superchargers in the United States. There are Supercharger stations in all 50 states and Puerto Rico, as well as in Canada, Mexico and across the world, with more planned. People do not want any EV, they want a Tesla!
Hello Tesla PR. I don't need your SlowChargers when I have an EREV and I can simply keep driving. Since Leon has diesel backup generators at those sites, we can repurpose them into gas stations once everyone starts buying EREVs and dumping their low range BEVs.
Fast chargers reduce battery life. Nio Swap will be the next big thing. Most of Chinese big dogs have joined in on the network including Geely, Changan, JAC, Chery
Autoline has been the best and an incredible source for news from the global automotive business, presented in a fresh and very intelligent manner. Very interesting views behind the scenes and curtains. Thanks a lot for bringing this invaluable service to us. Keep it up!
Right now few want to make low cost bare bones cars in the smaller segments. I was looking at British made Reliant Motors with their Fiberglass bodies starting in the 50"s, with 3 or four wheel options plus motor options. Consider what could be done with space age composite materials and engineering rather than styling.
I have worked for EVGo (as well as Tesla and EA) designing charging stations. EVgo only puts stations where they expect they can make money, generally in city centers and not in rural or remote areas in order to aid travel. This type of build may be good for daily commuters, and profits, but it's not helping to expand BEV usage since there are still so few chargers in rural areas.
Still waiting for a BYD Shark style vehicle in the US before I even consider looking at new vehicles. Hyundai/Kia/Genesis will likely be the first to have something available.
Reporter asking legacy automaker how they went bankrupt. “How did you go bankrupt? Two ways. Gradually, then suddenly.” -- Ernest Hemingway, The Sun Also Rises, 1926.
Southern California - EVS (BEV) everywhere, more public chargers in high visibility areas. Plug-in hybrids, including EREV are a dead end for most applications, hybrids are just gas cars. EREV was clever in 2011 Chevy Volt and 2014 BMW I3 REX, but it's 2024 now
We definitely agree to disagree here. The BMW had a wimpy two cylinder motor and 150 km range. The King BYD Seal 6 EREV has a claimed 2,100 km range. Why get stuck at a poorly maintained SlowCharger where you need cooling water and cooling rags to maintain the NACS connector ampacity when a EREV will let you drive on by.
@@rp9674 No the point was that BMW half-assed their EREV and the lack of any security at SlowChargers means the charging cables get stolen for copper. Not worth the risk.
I have always thought the sensible thing to do is to electrify the luxury brands, Lexus, Infiniti, Accura, Buick, Lincoln. The fact that none of the majors took this approach was a clear sign to me that they weren't serious about electrification.
North American EV charging launched so poorly that it is going to take several years of extra capacity and always working chargers to unwind the crap show that is out there now. I am pro EV but recent experiences with a vehicle for a week or so showed just how ready my region is not.
What are the ORIGINAL energy sources of all these Stations? How long does it take to do a FULL Charge as opposed to filling up your tank at a Gas Station?
Here's the thing, the "source" of energy in the US, and worldwide, is ever changing. By ever changing, what I mean really is, rapidly shifting towards renewable sources. In the US, the grid overall is now over 30% renewable and growing. In California, where most of the EVs are, the grid is 51% renewable, and growing. Coal has been completely phased out in California, and it will be phased out nationwide (due to its high cost) within about a decade. As for charging, you obviously don't drive EV. EVs are not the same as gas cars. They're just different. Maybe you've never encountered anything in your life that was different from something else, but that's what EVs are. They're different. EV drivers don't charge to FULL unless they don't understand how the car works. Here's the bottom line: Out of Spec recently ran a coast to coast "race" with nine EVs and one ICE car. In the end, after over 3,000 miles of driving, the Tesla Model 3 arrived 4 hours later than the ICE car. And the Porsche Taycan did even better. It arrived just two hours behind the ICE car, on a 3,000 mile trip. Note that modern EVs are basically on their 2nd or maybe 3rd generation right now. So, like, about where internal combustion was in 1912. There's a lot of further development to look forward to.
"Amtrak set an all time ridership record this year with 32.8 million passengers using its trains". That number does not represent unique passengers, just number of trips and round teips probably count as two passengers. As evidence to support this - they say they had $2.5 billion in ticket revenue. If you divide that revenue by the 32.8 million passengers you get $76 which sounds about right for a one way ticket price. So Amteak is bragging that they transported way less people all year than typically commute each and every day?
Nissan has an image problem. Their image is that of the third best Japanese automobile brand behind Toyota and Honda. Why would anyone buy a Nissan instead of a Toyota or Honda?
they became a brand associated with low income households. we all know what an Altima driver is. dealers chased high margins w/ subprime finance drivers and now the brand is dying like Mitsubishi in the 2000s
@@PhanoftheShow Funny I see this comment. I was talking to my kid about the Chrysler 300M because there was one in front of me weaving back and forth through 4 lanes of traffic with mumble rap blasting. I mentioned that Dr. Dre advertised for that car once. Probably the only more iconic ghetto car would be an Altima and at that very moment a white Altima with a crushed rear end held on by plastic twine drove past me in the left turn lane. Rudolph ears. Bubbly purple tint on the back window. Bass kickin but license plate and every body panel vibrating. Oddly both headlights were functional. Good old North Long Beach.
Most viewers may find it odd that UAW workers are striking against the UAW. The gig is up. The UAW is a corporation. Instead of selling cars it sells labor to the auto makers. UAW has a seat on the Board of Directors of GM. Why, you might ask? The cash heavy UAW loaned a huge amount of cash to the resuscitated GM in 2009 following the Financial Crisis in exchange for a seat on the Board. UAW is the biggest equity holder of GM. What is good for GM is good for UAW; and the reverse is also true. The losers are the UAW workers.
Unions make absolutely terrible bosses, working for a Union is horrible their management treat their workers far worse than the companies they fight everyday. So much so their is at least one Union of Union staff who fight to get a reasonable wage & hours. I have even heard of Union Managment not recognising the union for their Union workers. All the things they claim about other business, union managers do to their workers!
The tipping point has already been passed in China and Norway and Sweden. EVs sold today have about triple the range and four times the charging speed of most EV models sold in 2014. Improvements will continue, with or without the buzz word "solid state."
I scratch my head when ever I see someone driving a new Nissan product. It's like you actually went to the Nissan dealership and paid good money for that car. I digress but they drove Nissan into the ground. There were missed opportunities with the Maxima and G37 platforms. The Pathfinder while it was still a truck. I digress. Nissan Rogues can go away anytime. -"salut"
Nissan will pull out of this current funk. Meanwhile, anyone in tune with the industry has to wonder why Nissan dismissed hybrids in North America. Seriously, how are the new Kicks and Murano not hybrid only at this point? I will praise them for hanging on to a V6 in the Frontier and Pathfinder, however.
@@jamesvandamme7786it is a bad idea. Nissan was on the brink in 1990. If it wasnt him, there would have been no Nissan. People can trash talk Nissan all they want, but Nissan did survive and was thriving under the flag of Carlos.
HEVs run on gasoline. PHEVs mostly run on gasoline because owners often don't plug them in. EREVs are like BEVs in that you really do have to run them on battery. The gasoline part is so weak that an owner will plug an EREV in (unlike PHEVs). And in that regard the EREV can fulfill the promise of low-carbon in ways that PHEVs cannot for the segment of the population that is just too scared to purchase a full BEV.
Hmm, maybe I should go down to my local Nissan dealership. They have a white Frontier I really like. Whaddya thunk, will my purchase start the turnaround of this storied brand? K: Yutaka Katayama. Nissan legend Yutaka Katayama, the man known as “Mr. K,” ran Nissan's U.S. operations in the 1970s and is widely known as the father of the Datsun Z, the world-class affordable sports car. He retired from Nissan in 1977.
@@dpharr100 Amtrak has been hamstrung by the freight rail and automotive industries for decades. Trains are an order of magnitude more efficient than cars and the US used to have the best passenger rail in the world a century ago.
@@frankcoffey This makes zero sense. Public transit costs much less overall as it optimizes for density. Cars are wildly unsustainable in cities and most suburbs. Car infrastructure has massive costs/tax burdens when compared to train or bus routes.
@@KBergs Yep it makes no sense everyone still wants public transportation but then it's there they don't use it and it loses money. To be fair every new business always counts on the best case scenario rather than want is likely to happen.
LoL bye bye Legacy Auto...If you can't beat them you should join them....here comes Chinese Auto....great work UAW, Engineering, and CEOs your priced your products out of the market
What's happening to Nissan is what happens when you act too late to a transformation. Their lack and delays in the electrification transformation in the last 5 years will be their undoing. This is a company who has had the Leaf for almost 15 years and has done absolutely no meaningful advancement to it whatsoever during that time. And got rid of the CEO and engineer who's idea it was to begin with. It's what happened to carriage makers a century ago, especially to those that wasted time on other solutions because they could not think ahead. And it will be the same with those that waste time on hybrids when battery improvement will make them absolete in 4 or 5 years.
@@lot2196 Have you been paying attention? Batteries and power train design keeps getting better and cheaper. Nissan really dropped the ball on EVs. Maybe they're waiting for hydrogen to save their butts, but that ain't happening.
Even if an EV battery weighed 200 lbs and lasted forever and didn't catch fire, EVs still wouldn't make sense. You EV fans are just collecting evidence like it's postage stamps. Collect all you want. EVs will never make sense.
Nissan's issue isn't EVS. It's just the lack of tech. So many of us don't care about having disposable cars that need charging. Stop pushing the EV narrative! Nissans biggest problem has been the stinch of CVTs they have been using for decades.
The tipping point for EVs is NOT the number of chargers along a highway or having 500+ miles of range. Who wants to travel long distance in an EV? Not many are willing to put up with hassle: where is a charger, will it work when I get there, during a holiday weekend will there be waiting line for a charger, how long do I have to wait for it to charge, etc.? The real issues are the cost of an EV, people living in apartments and condos not being able to charge where they live or less than a block away, getting multi car families to consider transitioning 1 vehicle that they use for around town errands to be an EV (this could be a used EV (low cost), no need for 200+ mile of range, if you average 40 miles a day or less all you need is a level 1 charger (120V) that came with the vehicle).
Oh, stop it! Rational thinking is NOT allowed with EV discussions. You will be mandated to buy one per your sleepy government. Well, until Jan 20th, 2025 😂
Well at the very least 6 million Tesla owners dont find it a hassle at all. put in your destination and the car takes it from there. where is a charger, will it work when I get there"? will there be a line for a charger, how long do I have to wait for it to charge? how long do i need to charge between here and the next charge, how many are in use, broken, bathrooms, food, Its all on the screen in a Tesla. With any new thing we will adjust to it. In a few years everything your complaing about will be pretty-much a nothing-burger.
@@dclpgh And those in EREV's keep driving. Low range BEVs sold by Tesla are not cool anymore and nobody wants to have to plug up their car every night.
@@bobbbobb4663 Still in that mindset that you have to plug in an EV every time you go to the drugstore or something are we? Jeez dude you really that dense? My wife does everything in her MY she did with her Subaru. And she charges on the weekends. FUD makes you whole doesn't it?
Most of America was built around the railroads so its no surprise that people crave to return to it... Especially with the promise of full self driving ALWAYS just 5 years away... Like fusion... Or hydrogen...
Figuring it takes about 5 minutes to fill a tank worth about 350 miles and maybe? 1 hour to add 350 Miles to an electric, you will need 12 charging stations to replace 1 gasoline pump. That's a lot of money, time, work, and real estate in places where real estate is very expensive. Can't they do arithmetic? Count the number of gas pumps at Turnpike Plazas and interstate exits where you often need to wait your turn at a gasoline pump. Imagine being the 3rd person in line to charge your EV. That's a long rest, and you can't leave your vehicle. And the extra real estate to accommodate the wait line. They are not thinking this thing through.
@@eddieg6436most consumers don’t understand EVs and are misinformed. when used EVs hit the market and more people drive them, that’s when the market will shift
If you're charging a car for 1 hour you're doing it wrong. That's as stupid as putting a gallon into a gas car at every gas station every 20-30 miles apart. To put 350 miles into a Model Y or Ioniq 5 you need less than 40 minutes but you do need 2 stops. It's more difficult in rural areas like Nebraska but not a problem anywhere along either US coast or along the 10 or 40. The only place where the scenario of a long charger line will exist after NACS becomes ubiquitous is across large mountain climbs like Yosemite valley or crossing the continental divide where you might sometimes need that 90 or 100% range if you're blasting AC or heat.
@@Tokamak3.1415 It would be nuts to have 2 stops in that short a distance. Sorry but EVs do require planning and more time. I'll wait until battery technology gets a bit better. Viable now but they have issues. Glad for the early adopters to help build the infrastructure. What is the unknown is how will the infrastructure cope when nearly every vehicle is EV. Of course when EVs are the norm you can expect the charging companies to milk every dollar they can.
@@rovert1284 Battery chemistry, charging topology, and charging infrastructure do need to improve. That is certain. Most long range EV trips (250-3000 miles) do require more time. But short trips actually require less time since you can top off your car nightly if you have home charging which is about 2/3rds of the US. EV charging companies will always prioritize profits. Those with access to solar or cheap electricity will benefit the most. Apartment dwellers probably wont see too much financial benefit but they will get the benefit of less air particulates. The problem of towing seems to be an area with no known viable solution at present if attempting full BEV.
The Jackal (UAW) is now biting its own leg, which is caught in a trap (Chinese and Tesla bringing cheaper BEVs). This will not end well for them or the legacy automakers!
@@BTC_Minarchist lol, you’re funny and so lucky we live in a world where free speech is a distant memory or you definitely wouldn’t appreciate to know what I think of your answer and where you can shove it
@@BTC_Minarchist Someone is salty that Leon couldn't figure out how to do business in Mexico whereas BYD (2 guys in a shack in Shanghai) had no issues.
@@bobbbobb4663 😂 I'm not sure who's comment you read, but if you're response is to my comment your reading comprehension not so bueno. Ha, some Spanish for you 😂
Why do you think there will be half a million chargers by 2030? The infrastructure bill which provided BILLIONS for new charging stations only netted 7 new individual chargers total after 2 years. DOGE cannot happen fast enough.
Once again this channel is out of touch with what Americans want. We don't want EV, but you keep pushing it lying about "tipping points" you should convert this channel to a fishing or gardening
Its interesting how EREVs have brought things full-circle. Early modern attempts such as the GM Volt (not Bolt, Volt) had batteries which were simply too small. Then the industry transitioned to HEVs, which were basically a failure, and then PHEVs in that segment introducing middling batteries and middling combustion engines... which all sounded fine on paper but people often didn't plug them in, making them just a fancier version of an HEV but with a lot more complexity. And now the industry has circled back to EREVs... with a relatively large battery pack (larger than in PHEVs), intended for battery-only driving most of the time, but including a range-extender in the form of a small gasoline engine and generator whos only purpose is to charge the battery and extend the range of the vehicle when plugs cannot be found. Since the engine is tiny, the incentive is still primarily to plug in the vehicle to recharge it. The big advantage of the EREV is its simplicity. The tiny gasoline engine, integrated generator, and gas tank (just a few gallons at most) is essentially just a tack-on to the vehicle with almost no impact on the drive-train, weight, or complexity of the vehicle. Unlike PHEVs which are monstrously complex. An EREV is like having a little honda gasoline generator permanently married to the vehicle. So the BMW i3 with its range extender is roughly a 100 mile-range BEV plus the generator with a little 2.3 gallon gas tank that takes it to 180 miles and the ability to fill up with more gasoline in a pinch to go longer. I think this might be the bridge people have been looking for in ways that PHEVs just aren't. -Matt
"U.S. Approaching EV Tipping Point"? More public DC fast chargers? Were you sleeping under a rock this past month? President Donald J Trump will put an end to that
Tesla (maker of low range, ancient BEVs) News: DOGE co-chair calls Leon a "Circus Monkey"! Adrian promises 31% CyberBust depreciation! Tesla copies Ford (CEO is Chris Farley's cousin) by shutting down EV truck production line!
@@russh6414 Good idea. I'll help them out with a job posting: "For hire: Capable CEO not previously called a circus monkey or grifter and/or not a Special K addict."
WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG. EV's are becoming more popular because the market has collapsed and EV values have plummeted. People might now consider buying an EV since the cost is now reasonable for a "hobby" car. Why do you now see Cyber Trucks everywhere? Because it lost 50% of its value in less than 12 months and is now 80K instead of 200K...not because theres an EV "tipping point". EVs are a niche market and are 100% NOT scalable to meet the demands of the majority of drviers needs.
Used EV market is down because Hertz put all their Teslas on used market once. As EVs become less expensive and another upturn in oil/gas prices that’s when EVs will really start selling. Look at what happened in 1973 and 2008. In 2003 you were a tree hugging liberal for buying hybrid, now it’s the conservative thing to buy if you don’t have a pickup.
Cybertruck never has been a 200k car, you confuse it with the (still unreleased) Roadster maybe. Also I think your reasoning is a bit off, not just because of that.
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AutoLine daily is must watch everyday. Thanks for the content.
Can't agree more! They successfully and neutrally navigating the EV/ICE debate:)
I love how you broke down the XAI501x project in your video! Can’t wait to see it skyrocket!
Not surprised people are taking another look at train travel. Flying sucks now.
I haven't traveled on a train in 40 years. Extremely limited and slow in the U.S.
Yeah hopefully the support for passenger rail travel snowballs so more investors will inject meaningful amounts of money into it. I do enjoy taking a train every now and then for medium distances when I don't want to drive, like during holiday travel times. The headache of airports just isn't worth the extra few hours I would save anymore.
@@godofdun American Airlines removed seats from airplanes to give more legroom, of course the tickets cost more so passengers went to southwest until spirit and frontier came along. Passengers did it to themselves
@@rose415Nah,
The automotive and Airline Industries have been AGAINST High Speed Rail for many decades.
The US should already have comparable High Speed Rail in many parts of the country. It’s ridiculous that they have been allowed to squelch competition from HSR.
Trains are worthless for 90% of travel. Public transportation sucks.
A LOT of those new chargers are being installed in parking garages.
So you have to pay to get into the garage and then pay to use the charger…very common in the DC area.
Unless the parking is city taxpayer funded, then yes, the charge probably won't be free. The EVSE wasn't free, nor the installation cost, nor the electricity, nor the maintenance.
As an engineer at a diesel engine manufacturer, we predicted electric power trains would replace diesel by 2030 and gas by 2027. That is why they are building a battery plant in Arkansas, manufacturing portable semi truck chargers in Minnesota, and acquired Meritor power trains. This year, battery packs dropped below $100 in the US, which puts them on par with gasoline power trains. In many countries, they are around $64 per pack. By 2026, electric power trains will be the same as diesel; by 2030, battery replacement costs will be 20% less than replacing engines because nonflammable solid-state batteries are scheduled to go into production in 2026, and LFP will be used in semis.
Did someone say "game changer"????? 👀
Ha ha ha MR EV Shills detected 😂
@@nyxline To date, I do not own an EV other than a couple of eBikes. I was involved in our company's VC leadership group, which examined alternative fuel technologies, including H2, NG, and electric.
Unless EVs have non-combustible batteries, they will be completely eliminated from the market place within 10 years.
Even with safe batteries, charging times and infrastructure will limit EV adoption to about 30% - 40% of the market.
For commercial use, EVs may never be viable due to charging times and cost of labor.
@@kirkjohnson6638 Non-combustible batteries that do not reduce it range from -20 to 120F will hit the market in late 202 with 7-minute car charging and 14 minutes for semis. Plus, portable chargers are being added to loading docks at DC warehouses. Things will change with 1000 chargers being added per week in the US.
Lucid Gravity production started yesterday!
Amazing how all these car companies can build gasoline\electric hybrids but only Tesla can build pure electric cars for the masses. A lot of the car companies have been around over a hundred years, you can't tell me they're not doing this on purpose.
What many opponents of vehicle electrification of any kind fail to understand is the history of ICE vehicles and the facts are they had to tackle the same hurdles in range, fueling issues and safety issues as EVs in their infancy and now we couldn’t imagine travel of any kind in horse and buggies but the facts are our great grandparents had the same opposition to horseless buggies aka automobiles as we do EVs. They will never become a thing they are a fad they will never replace the trusty horse and buggy
So excited to see WEC grow.
Good show Sean, thanks!
the tipping point for EVs will be when the used EV market gets a foot in the door of reseller lots. most people have never experienced a good EV
I just bought a 2021 Chevy Bolt EV from a place that sells used EVs; they do a great business!
I remember when the steam locomotive engineers threatened strike when diesel locomotives came on big in the 50s
as evs cut into worldwide units legacy auto units will decrease who is next after nissan, vw and stellantis.
I solely believe XAI501x will do 20x after its launch price, the hype is high and its community are not relenting.
Too bad Carlos Ghosn isn’t available to save the worthwhile company again.
With 60,000+ Superchargers, Tesla owns and operates the largest global, fast charging network in the world. Located on major routes near convenient amenities, Superchargers keep you charged when you're away from home. Simply plug in, charge and go.
As of fall 2024, Tesla had more than 27,000 individual Superchargers in the United States. There are Supercharger stations in all 50 states and Puerto Rico, as well as in Canada, Mexico and across the world, with more planned.
People do not want any EV, they want a Tesla!
Hello Tesla PR. I don't need your SlowChargers when I have an EREV and I can simply keep driving. Since Leon has diesel backup generators at those sites, we can repurpose them into gas stations once everyone starts buying EREVs and dumping their low range BEVs.
Fast chargers reduce battery life. Nio Swap will be the next big thing. Most of Chinese big dogs have joined in on the network including Geely, Changan, JAC, Chery
Autoline has been the best and an incredible source for news from the global automotive business, presented in a fresh and very intelligent manner. Very interesting views behind the scenes and curtains. Thanks a lot for bringing this invaluable service to us. Keep it up!
Right now few want to make low cost bare bones cars in the smaller segments. I was looking at British made Reliant Motors with their Fiberglass bodies starting in the 50"s, with 3 or four wheel options plus motor options. Consider what could be done with space age composite materials and engineering rather than styling.
It seems like the UAW hasn’t been watching what’s happening with VW lately. They are on the chopping block next.
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From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧 ⏰️ 21:26pm Good Evening
I have worked for EVGo (as well as Tesla and EA) designing charging stations. EVgo only puts stations where they expect they can make money, generally in city centers and not in rural or remote areas in order to aid travel. This type of build may be good for daily commuters, and profits, but it's not helping to expand BEV usage since there are still so few chargers in rural areas.
So high speed rail would be most appreciated and used.
Still waiting for a BYD Shark style vehicle in the US before I even consider looking at new vehicles. Hyundai/Kia/Genesis will likely be the first to have something available.
Keep waiting.
@AdamFrugoli My used vehicle has been going strong for 8 years and shows no signs of stopping.
I'm nursing my Focus along until they bring the EV3 to the USA. We won't see BYD's here for a long time, if ever.
Reporter asking legacy automaker how they went bankrupt. “How did you go bankrupt? Two ways. Gradually, then suddenly.” -- Ernest Hemingway, The Sun Also Rises, 1926.
Southern California - EVS (BEV) everywhere, more public chargers in high visibility areas. Plug-in hybrids, including EREV are a dead end for most applications, hybrids are just gas cars. EREV was clever in 2011 Chevy Volt and 2014 BMW I3 REX, but it's 2024 now
We definitely agree to disagree here. The BMW had a wimpy two cylinder motor and 150 km range. The King BYD Seal 6 EREV has a claimed 2,100 km range. Why get stuck at a poorly maintained SlowCharger where you need cooling water and cooling rags to maintain the NACS connector ampacity when a EREV will let you drive on by.
The point wasn't to have the biggest gas engine call there's no way that makes any sense. Then random irrelevant worst case examples of EV charging
@@rp9674 No the point was that BMW half-assed their EREV and the lack of any security at SlowChargers means the charging cables get stolen for copper. Not worth the risk.
No
California is dying. Let's just hope Californians don't move elsewhere.
America can not enjoy cheap EVs.
We have to buy one of very few options due to market capture.
Thanks.
I like it when the air traffic controller went on strike and Regan fired them all.. I bet all their smiles went away quickly..
Infinity should be their EV brand in 2030 but quit selling the line in 2025. Lexus,Lincoln,Cadillac should do the same at their price points.
I have always thought the sensible thing to do is to electrify the luxury brands, Lexus, Infiniti, Accura, Buick, Lincoln.
The fact that none of the majors took this approach was a clear sign to me that they weren't serious about electrification.
@davidmenasco5743 Toyota should bring back the Scion brand for their entry level EVs.
North American EV charging launched so poorly that it is going to take several years of extra capacity and always working chargers to unwind the crap show that is out there now. I am pro EV but recent experiences with a vehicle for a week or so showed just how ready my region is not.
Bought XAI501x after watching your video and others, super excited! 💰
Could you do a show featuring the Nissan Infiniti variable compression engine, before it's too late.
What are the ORIGINAL energy sources of all these Stations? How long does it take to do a FULL Charge as opposed to filling up your tank at a Gas Station?
Here's the thing, the "source" of energy in the US, and worldwide, is ever changing. By ever changing, what I mean really is, rapidly shifting towards renewable sources. In the US, the grid overall is now over 30% renewable and growing. In California, where most of the EVs are, the grid is 51% renewable, and growing.
Coal has been completely phased out in California, and it will be phased out nationwide (due to its high cost) within about a decade.
As for charging, you obviously don't drive EV. EVs are not the same as gas cars. They're just different. Maybe you've never encountered anything in your life that was different from something else, but that's what EVs are. They're different.
EV drivers don't charge to FULL unless they don't understand how the car works.
Here's the bottom line: Out of Spec recently ran a coast to coast "race" with nine EVs and one ICE car. In the end, after over 3,000 miles of driving, the Tesla Model 3 arrived 4 hours later than the ICE car. And the Porsche Taycan did even better. It arrived just two hours behind the ICE car, on a 3,000 mile trip.
Note that modern EVs are basically on their 2nd or maybe 3rd generation right now. So, like, about where internal combustion was in 1912. There's a lot of further development to look forward to.
"Amtrak set an all time ridership record this year with 32.8 million passengers using its trains". That number does not represent unique passengers, just number of trips and round teips probably count as two passengers. As evidence to support this - they say they had $2.5 billion in ticket revenue. If you divide that revenue by the 32.8 million passengers you get $76 which sounds about right for a one way ticket price.
So Amteak is bragging that they transported way less people all year than typically commute each and every day?
Congrats on Amtrak achieving annual ridership of 32.8 million.
Perhaps they can soon surpass the 438 million annual ridership in little Netherlands?
Nissan has an image problem. Their image is that of the third best Japanese automobile brand behind Toyota and Honda. Why would anyone buy a Nissan instead of a Toyota or Honda?
Mazda and Subaru are both more desirable than Nissan, so make that 5th best Japanese auto manufacturer.
they became a brand associated with low income households. we all know what an Altima driver is. dealers chased high margins w/ subprime finance drivers and now the brand is dying like Mitsubishi in the 2000s
@@PhanoftheShow Funny I see this comment. I was talking to my kid about the Chrysler 300M because there was one in front of me weaving back and forth through 4 lanes of traffic with mumble rap blasting. I mentioned that Dr. Dre advertised for that car once. Probably the only more iconic ghetto car would be an Altima and at that very moment a white Altima with a crushed rear end held on by plastic twine drove past me in the left turn lane. Rudolph ears. Bubbly purple tint on the back window. Bass kickin but license plate and every body panel vibrating. Oddly both headlights were functional. Good old North Long Beach.
Most viewers may find it odd that UAW workers are striking against the UAW. The gig is up. The UAW is a corporation. Instead of selling cars it sells labor to the auto makers. UAW has a seat on the Board of Directors of GM. Why, you might ask? The cash heavy UAW loaned a huge amount of cash to the resuscitated GM in 2009 following the Financial Crisis in exchange for a seat on the Board. UAW is the biggest equity holder of GM. What is good for GM is good for UAW; and the reverse is also true. The losers are the UAW workers.
Unions make absolutely terrible bosses, working for a Union is horrible their management treat their workers far worse than the companies they fight everyday. So much so their is at least one Union of Union staff who fight to get a reasonable wage & hours. I have even heard of Union Managment not recognising the union for their Union workers. All the things they claim about other business, union managers do to their workers!
The tipping point will be when solid state batteries deliver as promised, NOT before.
The tipping point has already been passed in China and Norway and Sweden.
EVs sold today have about triple the range and four times the charging speed of most EV models sold in 2014. Improvements will continue, with or without the buzz word "solid state."
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I scratch my head when ever I see someone driving a new Nissan product. It's like you actually went to the Nissan dealership and paid good money for that car. I digress but they drove Nissan into the ground. There were missed opportunities with the Maxima and G37 platforms. The Pathfinder while it was still a truck. I digress. Nissan Rogues can go away anytime. -"salut"
Won’t even consider that Avenger if its 30
Nissan will pull out of this current funk. Meanwhile, anyone in tune with the industry has to wonder why Nissan dismissed hybrids in North America. Seriously, how are the new Kicks and Murano not hybrid only at this point? I will praise them for hanging on to a V6 in the Frontier and Pathfinder, however.
5:36 - "LIQUID HOT MAGMA...!!!"🤙 nice, Hyundai Megacorp can takeover for the loss of VW/Lamborghini.
I really like the looks of that Jeep EV! Too bad it's made by Jeep. ;)
Maybe getting rid of Carlos was maybe a bad idea?
Ya think?
@@jamesvandamme7786it is a bad idea. Nissan was on the brink in 1990. If it wasnt him, there would have been no Nissan. People can trash talk Nissan all they want, but Nissan did survive and was thriving under the flag of Carlos.
EREVS, PHEVS, HEVS they all run on gasoline in the real world. Just a bit less gasoline.
HEVs run on gasoline. PHEVs mostly run on gasoline because owners often don't plug them in. EREVs are like BEVs in that you really do have to run them on battery. The gasoline part is so weak that an owner will plug an EREV in (unlike PHEVs). And in that regard the EREV can fulfill the promise of low-carbon in ways that PHEVs cannot for the segment of the population that is just too scared to purchase a full BEV.
There is no reason for public chargers, and they are in the wrong locations.
BEV, PHEV, EREV, EWTF..!
Maybe if car recalls were less and make a good value car that people need a cheap car to work. The workers knew if they are making bad parts
Imagine buying a Jeep before the price slash
Think about buying a Tesla Xplaid 1.5 years ago!
It would be helpful if Nissan had reliable products. Hard to sell something no one wants.
Hmm, maybe I should go down to my local Nissan dealership. They have a white Frontier I really like. Whaddya thunk, will my purchase start the turnaround of this storied brand? K: Yutaka Katayama. Nissan legend Yutaka Katayama, the man known as “Mr. K,” ran Nissan's U.S. operations in the 1970s and is widely known as the father of the Datsun Z, the world-class affordable sports car. He retired from Nissan in 1977.
In 2023 Amtrak had losses of almost a billion dollars
@@dpharr100 Amtrak has been hamstrung by the freight rail and automotive industries for decades. Trains are an order of magnitude more efficient than cars and the US used to have the best passenger rail in the world a century ago.
No public transportation will ever make a profit. It has to have government support.
@@frankcoffey This makes zero sense. Public transit costs much less overall as it optimizes for density. Cars are wildly unsustainable in cities and most suburbs.
Car infrastructure has massive costs/tax burdens when compared to train or bus routes.
@@KBergs Yep it makes no sense everyone still wants public transportation but then it's there they don't use it and it loses money. To be fair every new business always counts on the best case scenario rather than want is likely to happen.
@@frankcoffey Wait til we learn how much money roads lose.
A lot of wishful thinking regarding EV sales.
LoL bye bye Legacy Auto...If you can't beat them you should join them....here comes Chinese Auto....great work UAW, Engineering, and CEOs your priced your products out of the market
😆UAW out mafia-ing the UAW😂
What's happening to Nissan is what happens when you act too late to a transformation. Their lack and delays in the electrification transformation in the last 5 years will be their undoing. This is a company who has had the Leaf for almost 15 years and has done absolutely no meaningful advancement to it whatsoever during that time. And got rid of the CEO and engineer who's idea it was to begin with.
It's what happened to carriage makers a century ago, especially to those that wasted time on other solutions because they could not think ahead. And it will be the same with those that waste time on hybrids when battery improvement will make them absolete in 4 or 5 years.
Nope, it was their horrible CVT transmissions. Not EVs that only appeal to a small percentage of buyers.
Batteries technology will not improve that much. Please stop the lies.
@@lot2196 Have you been paying attention? Batteries and power train design keeps getting better and cheaper. Nissan really dropped the ball on EVs. Maybe they're waiting for hydrogen to save their butts, but that ain't happening.
Even if an EV battery weighed 200 lbs and lasted forever and didn't catch fire, EVs still wouldn't make sense. You EV fans are just collecting evidence like it's postage stamps. Collect all you want. EVs will never make sense.
UAW 🤦
Nissan's issue isn't EVS. It's just the lack of tech. So many of us don't care about having disposable cars that need charging. Stop pushing the EV narrative!
Nissans biggest problem has been the stinch of CVTs they have been using for decades.
…..Flyover states are still holding on to their DVD players!! 🤷🏼♂️😂👎🏻
The tipping point for EVs is NOT the number of chargers along a highway or having 500+ miles of range. Who wants to travel long distance in an EV? Not many are willing to put up with hassle: where is a charger, will it work when I get there, during a holiday weekend will there be waiting line for a charger, how long do I have to wait for it to charge, etc.? The real issues are the cost of an EV, people living in apartments and condos not being able to charge where they live or less than a block away, getting multi car families to consider transitioning 1 vehicle that they use for around town errands to be an EV (this could be a used EV (low cost), no need for 200+ mile of range, if you average 40 miles a day or less all you need is a level 1 charger (120V) that came with the vehicle).
Oh, stop it! Rational thinking is NOT allowed with EV discussions. You will be mandated to buy one per your sleepy government. Well, until Jan 20th, 2025 😂
Well at the very least 6 million Tesla owners dont find it a hassle at all. put in your destination and the car takes it from there. where is a charger, will it work when I get there"? will there be a line for a charger, how long do I have to wait for it to charge? how long do i need to charge between here and the next charge, how many are in use, broken, bathrooms, food, Its all on the screen in a Tesla. With any new thing we will adjust to it. In a few years everything your complaing about will be pretty-much a nothing-burger.
Yep, there will NEVER be a tipping point for EV's. They have about peaked.
@@dclpgh And those in EREV's keep driving. Low range BEVs sold by Tesla are not cool anymore and nobody wants to have to plug up their car every night.
@@bobbbobb4663 Still in that mindset that you have to plug in an EV every time you go to the drugstore or something are we? Jeez dude you really that dense? My wife does everything in her MY she did with her Subaru. And she charges on the weekends. FUD makes you whole doesn't it?
Tesla's competition is coming All over them self 😂
"This town needs an enema!" (The Joker (Jack Nicholson))
Most of America was built around the railroads so its no surprise that people crave to return to it... Especially with the promise of full self driving ALWAYS just 5 years away... Like fusion... Or hydrogen...
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EV tipping point 😂
The tipping point for EVs. Sure:)
yeah we are way past that.
Can you point to a country that hit 10 percent and not accelerated sales? The tipping point is based on several countries that has done that.
Figuring it takes about 5 minutes to fill a tank worth about 350 miles and maybe? 1 hour to add 350 Miles to an electric, you will need 12 charging stations to replace 1 gasoline pump. That's a lot of money, time, work, and real estate in places where real estate is very expensive. Can't they do arithmetic? Count the number of gas pumps at Turnpike Plazas and interstate exits where you often need to wait your turn at a gasoline pump. Imagine being the 3rd person in line to charge your EV. That's a long rest, and you can't leave your vehicle. And the extra real estate to accommodate the wait line. They are not thinking this thing through.
One HOUR?!? Try 12 MINUTES!!! I drive from Las Vegas to Butte, Montana and back regularly in my EV. Fast chargers are GREAT!!
@@eddieg6436most consumers don’t understand EVs and are misinformed. when used EVs hit the market and more people drive them, that’s when the market will shift
If you're charging a car for 1 hour you're doing it wrong. That's as stupid as putting a gallon into a gas car at every gas station every 20-30 miles apart. To put 350 miles into a Model Y or Ioniq 5 you need less than 40 minutes but you do need 2 stops. It's more difficult in rural areas like Nebraska but not a problem anywhere along either US coast or along the 10 or 40.
The only place where the scenario of a long charger line will exist after NACS becomes ubiquitous is across large mountain climbs like Yosemite valley or crossing the continental divide where you might sometimes need that 90 or 100% range if you're blasting AC or heat.
@@Tokamak3.1415 It would be nuts to have 2 stops in that short a distance. Sorry but EVs do require planning and more time. I'll wait until battery technology gets a bit better. Viable now but they have issues. Glad for the early adopters to help build the infrastructure. What is the unknown is how will the infrastructure cope when nearly every vehicle is EV. Of course when EVs are the norm you can expect the charging companies to milk every dollar they can.
@@rovert1284 Battery chemistry, charging topology, and charging infrastructure do need to improve. That is certain. Most long range EV trips (250-3000 miles) do require more time. But short trips actually require less time since you can top off your car nightly if you have home charging which is about 2/3rds of the US.
EV charging companies will always prioritize profits. Those with access to solar or cheap electricity will benefit the most. Apartment dwellers probably wont see too much financial benefit but they will get the benefit of less air particulates.
The problem of towing seems to be an area with no known viable solution at present if attempting full BEV.
UAW workers want higher wages...again. Affordable Chinese cars can't get here fast enough for me.
Your a tool
The Jackal (UAW) is now biting its own leg, which is caught in a trap (Chinese and Tesla bringing cheaper BEVs). This will not end well for them or the legacy automakers!
No worries, when Nissan goes down I’m sure Hertz and Entreprise will find another cheap crappy imported brand to rent.
Like half of the GM and Ford lineups manufactured in Mexico?
@@BTC_Minarchist lol, you’re funny and so lucky we live in a world where free speech is a distant memory or you definitely wouldn’t appreciate to know what I think of your answer and where you can shove it
I'm currently enjoying a 2025 Altima from Hertz. I've driven 60 miles and the fuel gauge has barely moved so I can spend little to fill it up.
@@BTC_Minarchist Someone is salty that Leon couldn't figure out how to do business in Mexico whereas BYD (2 guys in a shack in Shanghai) had no issues.
@@bobbbobb4663 😂 I'm not sure who's comment you read, but if you're response is to my comment your reading comprehension not so bueno.
Ha, some Spanish for you 😂
Still burning up in home garages and highways and insurance companies are saying pay a high premium or not at all.
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Why do you think there will be half a million chargers by 2030? The infrastructure bill which provided BILLIONS for new charging stations only netted 7 new individual chargers total after 2 years. DOGE cannot happen fast enough.
Once again this channel is out of touch with what Americans want. We don't want EV, but you keep pushing it lying about "tipping points" you should convert this channel to a fishing or gardening
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“Tipping point”?
Come on guys, that’s clickbait. You’re better than that.
Yeah, right. Keep dreaming about that tipping point. Regular people don’t want EVs.
They do it is just that want more models to be electric and to be cheaper
@@samanthashoemaker5908 The Luddites will never switch. Horses are better!
Its interesting how EREVs have brought things full-circle. Early modern attempts such as the GM Volt (not Bolt, Volt) had batteries which were simply too small. Then the industry transitioned to HEVs, which were basically a failure, and then PHEVs in that segment introducing middling batteries and middling combustion engines... which all sounded fine on paper but people often didn't plug them in, making them just a fancier version of an HEV but with a lot more complexity.
And now the industry has circled back to EREVs... with a relatively large battery pack (larger than in PHEVs), intended for battery-only driving most of the time, but including a range-extender in the form of a small gasoline engine and generator whos only purpose is to charge the battery and extend the range of the vehicle when plugs cannot be found. Since the engine is tiny, the incentive is still primarily to plug in the vehicle to recharge it.
The big advantage of the EREV is its simplicity. The tiny gasoline engine, integrated generator, and gas tank (just a few gallons at most) is essentially just a tack-on to the vehicle with almost no impact on the drive-train, weight, or complexity of the vehicle. Unlike PHEVs which are monstrously complex.
An EREV is like having a little honda gasoline generator permanently married to the vehicle. So the BMW i3 with its range extender is roughly a 100 mile-range BEV plus the generator with a little 2.3 gallon gas tank that takes it to 180 miles and the ability to fill up with more gasoline in a pinch to go longer.
I think this might be the bridge people have been looking for in ways that PHEVs just aren't.
-Matt
"U.S. Approaching EV Tipping Point"? More public DC fast chargers? Were you sleeping under a rock this past month? President Donald J Trump will put an end to that
😂 He always exaggerates a lot just to win over his cult fanbase and never show his sources on where he got that information from.
Fortunately, he's lying as usual.
@@jamesvandamme7786 cope
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He's wrong on EVs. They are a bad idea for multiple reasons not just charging outlets.
All of the EVs haters said about they are a bad idea but never tell why or when they think it would be good to buy one.
They reduce revenue for the dealers, mechanics, and oil companies. The horror!
Tesla (maker of low range, ancient BEVs) News: DOGE co-chair calls Leon a "Circus Monkey"! Adrian promises 31% CyberBust depreciation! Tesla copies Ford (CEO is Chris Farley's cousin) by shutting down EV truck production line!
I think the innovators of the Model D need a dedicated CEO committed to improving the company and not destroying the brand
@@russh6414 Good idea. I'll help them out with a job posting: "For hire: Capable CEO not previously called a circus monkey or grifter and/or not a Special K addict."
@@russh6414We’re still waiting for the “2020” Roadster. 😂😂
If you look at the reflection on the side of cybertruck it's wavy. There's a reason no vehicle has flat panels.
I'm the only genius that noticed this.
@@rp9674 If you keep this up, Leon will hire you to implement 10 micron panel gaps.
WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG. EV's are becoming more popular because the market has collapsed and EV values have plummeted. People might now consider buying an EV since the cost is now reasonable for a "hobby" car. Why do you now see Cyber Trucks everywhere? Because it lost 50% of its value in less than 12 months and is now 80K instead of 200K...not because theres an EV "tipping point". EVs are a niche market and are 100% NOT scalable to meet the demands of the majority of drviers needs.
Nobody other than green nuts want EV junk, new or used. FACT. Why prices have cratered. 💯🔥🤮
Used EV market is down because Hertz put all their Teslas on used market once. As EVs become less expensive and another upturn in oil/gas prices that’s when EVs will really start selling. Look at what happened in 1973 and 2008. In 2003 you were a tree hugging liberal for buying hybrid, now it’s the conservative thing to buy if you don’t have a pickup.
Cybertruck never has been a 200k car, you confuse it with the (still unreleased) Roadster maybe. Also I think your reasoning is a bit off, not just because of that.
did you know you're wasting your time
Used Cybertrucks are selling for more than they were when new on CarGurus.
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