Fitna-e-Takfeer with Engineer M. Ali Mirza
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- Опубліковано 21 тра 2024
- It is no secret that today Muslims are divided along sectarian lines. Barelvis, Deobandis, Shia, Ahle-Hadees, none of these schools of thought accept each other as Muslims.
How did this happen? Where did we go wrong? Mohammad Ali Mirza sheds light on the history and doctrinal differences on the various sects within Muslims.
#### | 0:00:00 | Introduction
Q01 | 0:04:16 | “Shia kay khilaf jihad karna jihad e akbar hai?"
Q02 | 0:11:32 | “Barelvi” kon hain?
Q03 | 0:18:18 | Fitna kun nahijg solve hota?
Q04 | 0:22:21 | Barelvi aur Wahabi maślak me bunyadi Ikhtilaf?
Q05 | 0:24:02 | Dobandi kon hain?
Q06 | 0:28:10 | Doebandi-Barelvi aur Pakistani hakoomat?
Q07 | 0:33:42 | Saudi Arabia aur Iran dosti?
Q08 | 0:36:11 | Parwezi maslak par mouqif?
Q09 | 0:41:08 | Sweden ne Qur’an jalane k badle Bible ko jalane ki ijazat de di?
Q10 | 0:43:00 | Prophets ki dawat o struggle aur Marxism?
Q11 | 0:49:28 | Public ko kese samjhaya jaye?
Q12 | 0:54:13 | Islami nizam aur aj k jadeed taqazay kese sehmat ho sakte hain??
Q13 | 1:04:11 | Kia Malookiyat ne Firqay banayay?
Q14 | 1:11:51 | Musalman kyun zawal ka Shikar hain?
| 1:19:28 | Conclusion
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An Excellent PODCAST regarding Critical Issues of Our Society ! ! ! May ALLAH عزوجل Protect Our Nation & Our Country PAKISTAN from all Internal & External Enemies. Aameen ! ! ! May ALLAH guide all of us towards his path of TRUTH. Aameen ! ! ! My Salute for all the TRUTH Lovers. Al-hamduLILLAH ! ! !
وَﻋَﻠَﻴــْــﻜُﻢﺍﻟﺴَّـــــــﻼَﻡُ ﻭَﺭَﺣْﻤَﺔُ ﷲ وَ بَرَكَاتُهُ❤
Bhai Jaan tosein b Molvi hi ho research ka bhot fuqdan hai Aur muttakbari b koi achi cheez nai
MA SHAA ALLAH
AMEEN🖤
ماشاء اللّٰه 😍🫡🥰
Aameeeen☺️🩵🤍🩷
Wonderful Sir. I am surprised to see two famous and intellectual personalities of Pakistan together.
10000$ for U
اگر کوئی مرزا علی انجینئر کو ختم نبوت پر لائیو دلائل کے تبادلے کے لئے تیار کرے تو اسے دس ہزار ڈالر پیشگی انعام ۔ جو کوئی ایسا کر سکتا ہے برائے مہربانی بتا دیں۔
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After this podcast i am imagining a world where people from different views can come to terms in a such beautiful manner. This is hands down the greatest podcast of youtube.
Imagine a world where right and left could sit in such a harmonious friendly manner.
Sir Taimur i owe you for making my day today.
You guys should start a show together. I can guarantee pakistan could become what we imagine it to become!!!
Long live laal long live engineer sahab
Yes, but even our leftist have hard time accepting this. They want a world where either communist chase theists or theists chase communists 😂😂😂😂😂
@@ghazanhussain2070 couldn't agree more sir but i guess this is one of the first shifts in that paradigm
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Lol, Don't be fooled by his guise. Engineer is not rightist.
He's as leftist, if not more, as Taimur; just a different kind.
@@ghazanhussain2070Agree
Its pleasant that an educated liberal man like Dr. Taimur met an educated religious scholar and discuss religious issue in friendly and respecting manners..we need more discussions like this.
He isn't liberal. Liberals and socialists are poles apart
@@sobiaizhar9268 I know, he is socialist..studied in US, sings and uses guitar, that's why I wrote word liberal..
@@nasirhussainshah5736 jis tran k wo educated hain esi tran k tm…. Q tm loag gumrah hu rha hu es k peechay lag k ju sara jhot bolta he
@@ahmadsaeedbajwa6246 🤔🤔..Read some books please
@@user-si4nt5gt9b will you please explain the liberals in economy policy..you did not understand my point and mixing things in economic and ideology
I was a teenager when I used to watch your series on History of Philosophy on PTV
You don't realize and the time passes by
Glad to see the two legends
Hmm 👍
So this guy has been on PTV too SubhanAllah SubhanAllah Kiya Kiya nabghay hamari secular Sarkar nai Pall rakhay hein
@@maaz87 koi secular ho mujhay us say kia , us ka subject history of philosophy thaa so he taught that subject very well
@@mehwishbatool331 Madame yeh Tou surkha hai State secular hai ...
@@maaz87chup kar unpad chutye tum unpade ki wajase country ki maa c padhi hai
"It's the responsibility of intellectuals to say the truth to the people " (N. Chomsky
Well said
This society always needs this type of discussion, to evolve with the requirement of time.
Well done Ali Bhai ❤❤❤❤❤❤
One of the finest podcast. First time, I'm listening to Engr. Muhammad Ali Mirza and I really appreciate his insightful answers. Kudos to Dr. Sb for organizing such a fruitful discussion on one of the leading fitna e takfir of todays world.
Two intellectuals in one picture with the discussion for which no one is ready..❤
Intellectual u said isn't he the same person who said religion only means ibadah it doesn't mean u have to have rules and regulations according to Islam.
My God, this is pure gold. Incredible talk and well chosen questions. Thank you for such a beautiful discussion
Engineer Saab and Dr. Pervez Hoodbhoy should do a Podcast together. The are both my favorite.
This is one of the best podcasts I have seen involving a religious figure. It was truly an authentic and a refreshing introduction to Islamic thoughts. Kudos to you Taimur bhai for keep the discussion purely intellectual.
Engineer Sahab Is The Great Scholars and True Scholars ❤
Love From India❣🇮🇳❣
Tab hi shayad ik mamoli goal keepar sey HAG HAG kar chupta raha 48/48 ghantoun tak Tumharah Gread o true
gadha gru
Ya Ali madad kehna shirk
Ya Gous madad kehna shirk
Gadha tumhara agey farmata hey 😁😁😁
Ham saaaaab key peechey namaaz parh ney key qail hien 😁😁😁😁
Daleel dey di tumhara Gread o true gadha gru hey
NAHI tou
Sabit karou quraan o ahadees sey shirk karney waley key peechey namaaz jaeiz hey/ hou jati hey
Haan ab apney gadhey gru ki taryoun chup na jana janey ja na 48/48 ghantoun key liey
OK Heeran
Only Muslim babbbbi
Fulllly & Totally
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Me also from India brother... which city you belongs ?
Salam
Taimur is such a humble man. He has earned my respect. I am 100% sure he must have many differences with Ali bhai. But despite difference of thoughts, he values every opinion. Thank you for bringing us this fruitful discussion.
SubhAllah 😢😢😢😢😢
This is best day of my life … Ali Bhai … Taimur bhai…😢😢 I love my people I love My Islam… feeling sorry to all brother who socially, emotionally, psychologically were persecuted…
Absolutely amazing. I think Shehzad Ghias blew up the chance with his podcast. You on other hand were exceptional in every aspect. Great watch.
I was waiting for these two together for a very very very long time .... Afterall my wish is fulfilled 😍🥰🤩🥳
This is in my opinion, the best engineer muhammad ali mirza podcast. Especially at 56:32. Man, what great explanations with examples.
You’re the best Ali mirza bhai ❤️
ماشاء اللہ بہت اچھی گفتگو رہی
تکفیر ہی اسلام کی راہ میں بڑی رکاوٹ ہے اس سلسلے کو جاری رکھ نے کے لئے تقدیس صحابہ کا نظریہ گڑھا گیا ہے
Thank u for adding this masterpiece in your channel. Glad to witness two open-minded and liberal people discussing societal issues without any lens of orthodox religion.
Religion has lot less to do with the chaos we saw in past few centuries. It was mostly economy, the economics of fame and followers. Rest , I presume u are smart enough.
@@sibtainhaider2411yes absolutely, religion has been merely used as a prime tool to control masses, its not the religion but people who used it that r that fault
WOW, I must be dreaming. Thanks, Dr Taimur for this insightful discussion.
Eighty odd minutes of pure learning and knowledge, injecting a new temptation to study and learn more and more. Thankyou so much to both the teachers. ❤
One of Best podcast ❤👍.
Very critical, important questions. Credit goes to Dr Taimur: The way he prepared critical question for
Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza ❤👍
Great Job Sir ! Outstanding Discussion ____ ❤ May ALLAH Bless On You Dr. Sahib & Engineer Muhammad Ali
Ali Bhai jesa sacha Aashiq-e-Rasool hai ee koi ni
All the questions answered beautifully as ever about our glorious Deen......Interview taken by a polite and an educated personality can be so different and interesting everyone must have enjoyed ,........no wonder SIR ENGINEER ALI is the pride of Muslims ,we Pakistanies are lucky to have him in this era ,I feel the pleasent hussle and brussel around the Deeni circle is because of Sir Ali,
May Allah bless and protect our precious gem.....aameen.
Masha'Allah Dr Sahb a very informative session with EMAM
Dear Dr. Taimur, thank you for conducting this podcast. It was incredible.
This is so Beautiful, from listening Faiz from Taimur to the basics of religion with EMAM . It's definitely worth the effort. May Allah guide us all to the righteous path-Amen
i want to sleep but the charisma of this debate is not allowing me.
It's NOT a debate its a DISCUSSION plus a question and answer session. A debate is something totally different. Correct yourself there✌✌
Also btw u should watch such learning-filled and Interllectual discussions with FULL concentration and 0 biasness so u may benefit and learn. DON'T think of sleep during such videos bro
Two foremost intellectuals of Pakistan. Initiatives like this can reignite the the element of discourse and debate in our society.
Yeh hona chahiay guftagu ka level. History , economics . Let’s find solutions!
I highly respect Engr. Mohammed Ali Mirza, because he support his talks with authentic references 🤲 He is very well-versed of religious & scientific knowledge. ماشاء الله تبارك الله
Taimoor bhai "I saw* something in you but i didn't know what it is" and today i see what it was!
Such a lovely intellectual discussion, really faizyaabable, Alhamdulillah 😊
sir me khud deuband se taluq tha mera mene kafi had tak study bi ki hai in ke madaris me lekin engineer mirza ali saab se bt kuch seekha hai or ye bt acha kam kar rahey hain hamari society ke leye or ummat ke leye
Zid aur haddharmi mai deoband ka koi saani nahi
First time I am seeing an interview with Engineer in a less harsh manner. Kudos to Dr sahab for keeping it civil, engaging and more like a discussion rather than a hard talk style interview.
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*Dear Ali Bhai* Aoa,
Reference to your lectures at UA-cam, the content of your lectures based on, finding only mistake of other Muslims.
*When do you speak ?* Establish, the Quran and Hadees Cut the hands of Thief should be a law of our land?.
Respect your knowledge, skills & lectures "exposing ONLY others mistakes in your lectures, follow the same line of you.
*Therefore* kindly clarify the below:
Please focus on this Truth once our Moula Ali (RA) accepted the regime / Government of First Ruler Abubakar (RA) and follow his Government and after him continue his support to Omer and Usman (RAA) being a single unit, under only just one name as Muslim without making any division or sect under Islam.
Why later on, who had made the Two division under Muslim and calling ourself Sunni & Shia?
Please Answer.
Thank you,
Anwar Masih Uddin
S/o Dr Sayed Baha Uddin
@@AnwarMasihUddin . Engineer never sided or supported shiah sect . He just highlight truth . Our problem as under . Under sunni faith no human is infallible except prophets. As we are not ready to accept it problem arises . Apart from proohet all our humans . All committed mistakes in various degrees . Some less mistakes some committed more mistakes. Unless we accept these bitter truths problems will remain.
Great Discussion between two great intellectuals of this modern era, we are with you we must learn Islam in a proper way
After a long time a sensible Genuine Aalim of deen has come. Allah aap lambi zindagi de Mirza sahb
Great to see you Sir with another realist and scholar person who is guiding millions of muslims in digital era.
Mashallah Two high intellectual personalities in one frame Mashallah❣️
Chal bhai.. porana hogaya yeh phrase
@@maddyrulez q ky Ali bhai ko achy sy acha bnada jo society ma positive ha salution end py khary log milny aa rhy hain to hmain har dfa kehna parta ha ....and fasadi or gumrah log to jealous hongy na
@@mdqaisergaming8062 acha acha tu yeh baat hay
G pyary bhai ❣️
MashAllah engineer sahb changed my life my thoughts of islam ,
He is the Man of honor 🙏 MashAllah
I would have never imagined . Never imagined. To see an intellectual person like Taimur sb having podcast with this guy.
Ma-Shaa-ALLAH ! ! ! Well needed clip Keep on preaching ISLAM without any sectarianism. May ALLAH guide all of us towards his path of TRUTHS. Aameen ! ! ! My salute for all the TRUTH lovers. Al-hamduLILLAH ! ! !
It's such a treat to watch you both together❤
One of my fav scholars ❤❤ love you lal
Sir this is todays the most excellent session for us. And plz make some more session like this for fiqa jihad concept and ijtihat plz makes us to make clear concept about these basic topics in islam
I cant imagine a religious scholar talking about Karl Marx, Lenin, Hegelian theory and socialism. This is epic.
One sentence from Dr taimoor, I always see intention of every verse and law of Islam. Then I interpret it . This was perspective changing idea from Dr taimoor.
بہت اعلی اپ دونوں جیسے بہادر اور حق گو لوگوں کی موجودگی سے لگتا ہے شاید دین کے احیاء کا وقت بہت دور نہیں انشاللہ
Doctor sab aap ne badi der kar di
Mya 1 anpadd jahil hon magar ali
Bhai ko 1 bar sunkar samal gaya
Allah ke karam se mere ustad jai sa
150 sal me hai kohi nahi Allah salamat Rakhe ali bhai ko aameen
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اللہ تعالٰی ہمیں دین کی صحیح سمجھ عطا فرمائے
آمین ثم آمین یا رب العالمین
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That's great. Just finished the whole podcast and this type of discussion is the core need of time. Unfortunately we are stucked by those forces who wants to remain us busy by utilizing their interest. Jazak Allah
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*Dear Ali Bhai* Aoa,
Reference to your lectures at UA-cam, the content of your lectures based on, finding only mistake of other Muslims.
*When do you speak ?* Establish, the Quran and Hadees Cut the hands of Thief should be a law of our land?.
Respect your knowledge, skills & lectures "exposing ONLY others mistakes in your lectures, follow the same line of you.
*Therefore* kindly clarify the below:
Please focus on this Truth once our Moula Ali (RA) accepted the regime / Government of First Ruler Abubakar (RA) and follow his Government and after him continue his support to Omer and Usman (RAA) being a single unit, under only just one name as Muslim without making any division or sect under Islam.
Why later on, who had made the Two division under Muslim and calling ourself Sunni & Shia?
Please Answer.
Thank you,
Anwar Masih Uddin
S/o Dr Sayed Baha Uddin
IMAM is truly a gem he opened our eyes
Thnx a lot to youTube that we are aware of the A.B.C. of our Religion..Alhamdo lillah.???
taimur bhai excellant interview.mashaALLAH....
An excellent discussion we need to hear MashaAllah Alhamdulillah ❤
Dear Ali and Taimur, Please have more sessions like this as you can cover more topics. Please make this a series.
Though I mostly don’t agree with Dr Taimur Rehman, still he deserves to be loved and I love him. Salute to EMAM for his invaluable services towards spreading the Words of Allah
this man is a gift to Pakistan 🇵🇰 ❤
ماشاءاللہ صرف 7 گھنٹوں میں 28 ھزار ویوز اور ساڑھے 4 سو منٹس - اور وہ بھی پوزیٹیو!
People are extremely concerned and learning enthusiastically from great learned teachers.
What a personality EMAM❤️ just wow
ماشاءاللہ
ڈاکٹر صاحب بہت عمدہ کوشش ہے
اللہ پاک آپ کو اجر عظیم عطا فرمائے
Engineer is the greatest islamic scholor of modern era♥️♥️
Best scholar.... ENGINEER MUHAMMAD ALI MIRZA ❤❤
The only person which i can support to gather Muslim Umaah is Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza. very intelligent intellectual.
What an amazing podcast, before that, I was confused about Mirza's thoughts. but now totally got it
Modern Education is the only way forward 😊
Quranic education is the only way to forward
@@AamirKhan-bh7bw bilkul bhai moderen education bas ek dhoka hai
@@AamirKhan-bh7bw moderen education se dunya mn progress to mil jati hai lakin akhrat tabah ho jati hai Islam ☪️ ko mano bas islam moderen education ki ijzt nai deta . Allah bless all
Modern Education = E.M.A.M
@@AamirKhan-bh7bwQuran aqal walon keliye hai aur aqal dunyavi taleem se ati hai
Finally Finally finally.. Two Intellectuals have come together at the same platform ❤👍
Thank you dr. Taimur sb and EMAM
Bhot bar dekh sun li yeh discussion bss end hogai kmaaal
Two rational people together,gems ❤
I used to watch your program "ancient philosphy of Greek" it was amazing
Juda ho Deen siyasat se. . . It seems like the metaphor is symbolized in the 2 speakers here where deen and siyasat has converged as Engineer and Doctor in true sense.
Great session taimur saab
Sir I am very happy to watch you with respected sir Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza. I hope people like you will effect our lives in a positive way. It's very hard to live. Waiting for change.
Everyone, who is regarding this comment, I have a request for you. Please pray for me. It's really hard to live these days.
19:28 😮
What a fearless Man. ❤
Well, i must that's a new beginning where people from different ideologies r sitting togather, putting forward their thoughts in an intellectual manner and appreciating efforts of respective clubs.
Weldone Bro for this effort and may Allah guide us all towards path of jannah.
Treat to watch.
after watching this video, compelled to follow mirza engineer sahab. ❤
Ma Sha Allah...
May Allah Almighty Bless EMAM Sahab & All Of Us. Ameen!
hamaray town main ik school open hoa naam rakha gia " Kinzuliman Beacon School "
Well Needed interview for students of clgs and universities
That's how you carry out a healthy debate. Salute to both the magnanimous personalities of Pakistan.
Listened all conversation ALHUMDULLILLAH Engr Sahab may Allah guide us you're doing good work..
The best ever podcast of Engineer Ali Mirza
And Dr taimoor always a class apart
May god bless them both.
Most intellectual podcast with in depth analysis which i heard today
Dr. sab apke okhy okhy swal boht relevant hote hn.
Sir I saw the whole video without skipping and it was enlightening. Allah Bless you both Ameen suma ameen
This podcast was more interesting than Shehzad Ghias one tbh ❤ i wish toda aur lengthy hota, but In Sha ALLAH i hope we’ll see both you doing Collab again.
Dream come true. A very well awaited session. Sir Dr Taimur, I am very grateful that you went there and recorded this important and necessary podcast. I love and respect you both. May Allah protect you and EMAM from your enemies and always guide you upon the right path. I have learnt alot. Jazakallahu Khairaa. ❤ 💯
Taimur sir ny hamary school me perform Kiya tha he is a very gentle person♥️
Nabi Pak K Jaisa Hai i Koi Ni
Mamu Babae Tay Shae i Koi Ni ❤
This is an excellent example of how social media can help bring different POVs together, and work for the larger good of people - if there is effort & tolerance to start understanding each other. Two thumbs up to both of you!
Ali Bhai is a mujadid of this time.❤
Amazing, I became a follower of Enggr after watching this.
Ali bhai is knowledge factory ❤
Sir, please make a podcast with Syed Jawad Naqvi.
True sprite of most respectful🎉 Eng M A M Masha Allah❤
Allah salamat rakhe Ali Bhai ko aameen summa aameen
BEST conversation between TWO ULEMA of KNOWLEDGE. *Dr Taimur & EMAM*
🖤Subhan Allah 💙Alhamdulillah 💚AllahuAkbar 🧡Laailaha illallah 💜