For years, I thought Bolt From the Blue were screwed over, but having watched it back, I now think Firestorm actually edged it on the basis that they were looking to cause more attacks. Bolt was more stationary and rooted to its spot, with Firestorm running round and trying again from another angle. In this case, I think Firestorm’s natural speed gave it the upper hand. Still a close battle, but now I’m a bit older I view it differently.
I agree with this. Plus if you look closely, you see a power link come out of Bolt from the Blue which operated their flipper. The judges probably counted that as damage since it took away their only weapon.
Yeah the aggression was clear, apparently according to the other reply there was in fact damage, stile was clear, control was bolt from the blue's only points that I can see. I cannot wait to see who the next reply is two years from now
the whole fourth wars the main series was just an absolute disaster for Diotoir they missed their connecting ferry from Ireland and when they got to the arena they discovered that the machine was overweight hence why they had no top armour in the arena. Then their weapon the spring loaded lifting arm the chain driving the weapon broke as did the back up chain and there was no time to find another back up. Not only that they had replace a speed controller as seen at 8:27 put that all together no wonder they were flipped by Ming 2 so quickly what a disaster.
The Fourth Wars main series was an unmitigated disaster for Diotoir. The team missed their connecting ferry from Ireland, which delayed their arrival. Upon reaching the arena, they discovered that the machine was overweight, forcing them to strip off the top armor. This lack of protection proved critical in the arena. To make matters worse, their spring-loaded lifting arm-their main weapon-was plagued with issues. The chain driving the weapon broke, and so did the backup chain, leaving them without a functional weapon. With no time to source another replacement, they were left severely handicapped. Adding to their woes, they had to replace a speed controller (as seen at 8:27 in the broadcast). When all these problems were compounded, it was no surprise that Ming 2 swiftly flipped Diotoir out of contention. The side events brought slightly better fortunes, though not by much. Their Sumo Basho run was another disaster-they lasted barely three seconds before Shunt unceremoniously pushed them out. However, the Pinball Warrior Tournament was a rare highlight for the team. They delivered a solid performance, scoring a respectable 180 points. The true bright spot of the series for Diotoir came in the Celebrity Special. Teaming up with Vic Reeves from Shooting Stars, the team made an impressive run to the final. Unfortunately, they lost to the formidable Pussycat, which had Ian Beale (played by Adam Woodyatt from EastEnders) joining Team Cold Fusion as the pilot. Losing to the Fourth Wars vice-champions was no shame, and this collaboration remains a memorable moment in Diotoir's otherwise disastrous Fourth Wars campaign.
@@jackcarter5101 While I agree that Razer was still hanging onto Tornado, it still should've been DISQUALIFICATION for Tornado as they couldn't be pitted at all with that Ridiculous Frame around it so The Champions of Series 6 still should've been Razer!
@@jackcarter5101 Indeed, I think the bottom line is that however which way people look at it, this Grand Final Battle will still have MAJOR CONTROVERSY for as long as we shall live
And we've had robots in that position getting lifted out by accident and freed by a houserobot and they did not get a 'you lost' ruling from the judges.
@@FabianPyka No, they didn't. The purpose of the pit is to trap robots to where they can't escape, which constitutes an instant elimination. That's the predicament The Morgue ended up in whether it got stuck on the edge or over it, or went down inside. So it rightfully lost. It's the same reason Raizer Blade lost against Suicidal Tendencies in Series 3, even though the latter was dead on one side first and should've lost right there, but that's a different matter.
@@nitelast I know. But the judges didn't count Tornado as being pitted because Razer was still attached to it, which is absolutely stupid because it was obvious that Tornado couldn't possibly have escaped its dead spot over the pit whether held there or not. Probophobia didn't have to detach from Snake Bite when pitting it; Razer also shouldn't have had to detach from Tornado when immobilising it over the pit.
Controversy is never far away but if we take the pit out of the picture I can see why the judges awarded the heat to Firestorm because it was dominating the Morgue all throughout the fight
The Morgue did very little the whole heat. If they’d been beaten in round one, reinstated, got through a round two they were losing up until their opponent broke down, then got through the final they were also clearly losing just cause their opponent drove down the pit in the last second before cease was called, then they’d surely have gone down with Series 6 Spawn Again as the least deserving semi finalists ever.
@@FabianPyka Wrong. The Morgue was immobilised on the edge of the pit before Firestorm went in, so the former rightfully lost. Even though The Morgue didn't go _down_ the pit, the pit's purpose is still to trap a robot for an instant loss, and that's the predicament The Morgue ended up in.
@@ryanodonovan9497Technically, yes The Morgue was trapped inside the pit while in a vaguely leaning position, therefore all of its drive wheels were suspended in thin air. From where the team could see it is hard to tell, but still rather than celebrating prematurely, they should've not wasted their chance to try driving The Morgue off the pit's edge and make a victory look official.
I feel like the judges made the right call in Firestorm vs Bolt From The Blue. Had Bolt used their weapon more they would have gotten through on aggression. There's also like 4 extra minutes of the fight we didn't see so it's hard to make an accurate decision on an edited fight like that.
A while back someone claiming to be the wife of that kid on Bolt from the blue posted a picture of a cake she had made in honour of the reboot, apparently the dude is still bitter about losing.
40:23 Immobilised for 30 seconds and winning on points up to that point are both irrelevant, because being pitted means instant loss. The only relevant factor is that according to the rules, both robots were pitted, and Morgue was pitted first.
I love Firestorm but I wouldn't have given them that win over Bolt From The Blue. They were more aggressive but it was rash; it kept getting them launched over their opponent, who got a couple of lifts in on them unlike Firestorm, who was more "stylish" simply for being faster but who caused no damage. A shame Bolt From The Blue's final words in the pit are cut out here; what did they say?
Firestorm were doing everything they could while Bolt from the Blue never tried to take hold of the match and showed no initiative. Firestorm couldn’t break the stalemate but BftB could have and didn’t. Sort of reminds me of the Wild Thing vs Trouble N Strife battle, the winning robot just fought harder and did more to earn their place in the next round. I agree Firestorm were not on form in series 4 but they were still the best robot in this heat.
It's an interesting case. When no damage is caused then the judges go to aggression, which BFTB didn't show too much of by comparison as they seemed to be driving more defensively. The times they got underneath were from Firestorm driving at them. The judges might've also noted the missed opportunities BFTB had to use their lifter, not helping the style or control points. That's just my rough interpretation of it at least. Definitely a close one, but I think the judges got it right.
I do not care for the eliminator format. All it takes is two teams/bots to gang up on the other one and it is over. I am sure this happened more than once. These teams worked beside each other in the pits and surely friendships developed.
BFTB had at least 4-5 chances to actually use the flipper and potentially score points but they didn't. Firestorm was constantly on the move trying to find that opportunity to get in underneath, while BFTB just span around in response.
Damn, Firestorm with 2 really questionable decisions. It would make more sense if the first bot that touches the bottom of the pit would lose in that tiebreaking scenario.
It’s all about immobilising the opponent. The pit is just a means to do it, whether it’s immobilised because it’s nose down in the pit, or its wheels are spinning in the air over the mouth of it, immobilisation is immobilisation. Remember, Rex Garrod had a means of getting out of the pit with Cassius 2, assuming it went in back first. His ram, he claimed, would lift it out, so even if you’re in the pit, if you’re still mobile, you’re still in the fight if you can get out. I don’t see a way for The Morgue to have gotten out of that situation.
When Firestorm pushed Hypno disc down the pit and went in with them, the judges called for a rematch, you wonder why they didn’t do it there too. I guess it wasn’t exactly close though, Firestorm was well ahead until that and even then The Morgue were immobilised first.
@@NoobixCube Cassius 2 wouldn't have been allowed to continue if it flipped out of the pit - that was just a supposed way to show off for fun which wouldn't have been anything more. Going into the pit means INSTANT ELIMINATION. What would be the point in having the pit if you could just escape from it and carry on?
Luck wasn't really a factor for Firestorm when facing The Morgue. It was a simple matter of seeing that the latter was caught by the pit and couldn't escape _before_ Firestorm went down; a dead spot that Firestorm put The Morgue in. But against Bolt From The Blue, yes, luck was more a factor, since Bolt From The Blue couldn't overturn Firestorm when lifting it up. And the former's weapon was immobilised. Not because of anything Firestorm did directly, but the fact it happened still meant damage sustained, thus Bolt From The Blue was rightfully penalised. It made it easier for Firestorm to get ahead with its effort, as little impact as it gave its opponent.
It was a really bizarre battle. I think Firestorm II won on aggression and control, but no question their opponent thwarted them with the ground clearance. Even luckier in the final.
@@burzaburza2970 That doesn’t matter. It was still more than the one moment Bolt From The Blue got a lift on Firestorm. It it _overturned_ Firestorm, maybe the result would’ve been different. But that didn’t happen. Other than that, Firestorm was putting in all the effort while Bolt From The Blue was more so stationary. Oh, and its lifter was disabled, thus meaning something to count against it on the grounds of immobility.
Bolt From the Blue does have a weak spot at the back when it comes to wedges. Ming 2 managed to exploit this in the first round, so there's no reason why Firestorm couldn't do the same. As the fight wore on Firestorm, seemed to be targeting BFTB's rear, but either ended up missing or the opponent's quick turning circle kept Firestorm going at the more protected sides. What Firestorm should've tried was luring and pressing BFTB up against a wall from the rear, gaining enough force and leverage to tilt and flip it over.
Firestorm vs Bolt from the Blue - I think was the most evenly matched fight I've seen. Neither side could make any impression on the other. Firestorm was the faster, but it couldn't get under BTTB, BTTB lifted Firestorm a couple of times but Firestorm just drove off it again (very cunningly designed in that respect, is Firestorm) I think Firestorm was correctly the winner, but only just.
I don't understand why people thought Bolt from the Blue won their match against Firestorm. People seem to forget the criteria at that point, Firestorm was being more aggressive and in control, moving around, pushing and making attempts at Bolt from the Blue. Bolt had ran out of gas, so it was forced to miss a lot of opportunity it would've had in flipping Firestorm, that would've counted against Bolt when it comes to aggression. And from the most part Bolt was just driving in circles while Firestorm was making active attempts at getting underneath Bolt from the Blue. So Firestorm was the rightful winner here.
I guess they think that the one time Bolt From The Blue lifted Firestorm up was enough for the former to win - which it might have been if it _overturned_ Firestorm - yet they don't look at everything else. Plus, they're the type that scoff at Robot Wars for being rigged for popular robots, when really that's just based on their lack of ability to trust as well as to look at things objectively. Yes, the officials have made some terrible decisions and Mentorn have meddled here and there, but if people can look that far into the show, they should be able to see that it wasn't about that as most times the calls made were correct, as it was here.
@@pianoman1396 The difference there is that Razer was still hooked on to Tornado's anti-crusher whereas The Morgue wasn't held in its predicament, yet that difference shouldn't have mattered. Tornado still should've lost for the same reason The Morgue did. The former was landed in a dead spot over the pit that it blatantly wouldn't have escaped from whether it was held there or not, therefore Razer shouldn't have had to detach any more than Probophobia had to when it pitted Snake Bite.
So, let me get this straight. Tornado won against Razer when they were fully over the pit, but Mourge goes out with only 2 wheels in the pit? Very nice inconsistent rules you got there RW. (Btw, i'm a huge firestorm fan, but i think the rules should be straight, not bent over the seasons like they have been for some reason, either Mourge should have won here, or Tornado should have lost their match)
There is actually complete consistency. The crucial difference is that when cease was called, Razer was still hooked onto Tornado, which means Tornado was only suspended above the pit, not in it. Whereas Morgue was completely over the pit (actually all four wheels, not two) without being held there.
@@Dead25m There have been numerous robots too big for the pit. The rule is that if all your wheels are stuck over the pit, then you are pitted, UNLESS you are being held there, like Tornado.
What the heck is this Heat honestly. In the semi, Firestorm not using it's flipper once, almost get's flipped by Bolt. Still progressing to the final. The final, Firestorm has CLEARLY driven into the pit but still is the winner?! There is absolute no logic to this whatsoever. I feel the producers just wanted Firestorm to progress to the semifinal because they were a Top 5 robot. Bullshit.
No, that's what your comment is. How much did you even pay attention to when things were explained clearly enough in this episode? Firstly, if that one lift Bolt From The Blue got on Firestorm _overturned_ it - as Graham Bone pointed out - it might very well have been right to give the win to Bolt From The Blue. But there's more to scoring points than just using your weaponry. Firestorm didn't get to use its flipper, but it still put in the most effort with its control and aggression to knock against Bolt From The Blue. And no, those body blows didn't have much of an impact, but they were still more than one moment of Bolt From The Blue getting a lift in whilst mostly waiting around for Firestorm to move in. Also, talking of weapons, it was later revealed that Bolt From The Blue's lifter was immobilised, so that's some significant damage for the robot to be penalised on. It was right to give Firestorm the win, albeit only just. And secondly, Firestorm going into the pit happened AFTER The Morgue was caught by it. It doesn't matter that the latter didn't actually go down; the pit is an entrapment hazard for instant elimination whether you're in it or stuck over it or on the edge. The Morgue's dead spot came first, and that's that. Mentorn were not biased for Firestorm, and that's just a lazy judgment people like you like to make before even looking at the bigger picture. So you're nobody to accuse anybody of lacking in logic. Firestorm was voted for because it was the right thing to do, whether you like it or not.
That damn Firestorm team/build is biased as fuck. Judges (and many other) favors them over the others. That's also why they are so high in the seed. Like, you heard what Craig said when passing by the Bolt From The Blue team while they were interviewed (17:38) That just tells how privileged they actually are when battles ends up on judges decision. Edit: It is true though that the opponents here weren't that good either but this is not first time when Firestorm gets through only because judges. (Battle against Bolt From The Blue was controversial though. It actually favored the Bolt. Firestorm didn't even used ONCE their weapon. And Firestorm seemed to be more aggressive only because their robot is way faster.)
And because Firestorm were actually mounting attacks and putting in the majority of the effort regardless of the weak payoff, whereas Bolt From The Blue was mostly just lazing about the entire time. I'll take all those body blows Firestorm gave Bolt From The Blue any day over the latter lifting Firestorm once without turning it over, and only even getting that lift because of Firestorm's advance. Even James Proctor revealed something else inadvertently that went against his machine... *"We were robbed, if I do say so myself. Our weapon didn't break - it ran out of air, we could only use it 5/6 times. Plus we were 15/16 yrs old, and they were university engineering graduates."* Whether the weapon broke or ran out of air, it was immobilised, and that counts as damage sustained. And the difference in the teams' ages and experience is irrelevant. Bolt From The Blue was not robbed - it was right to rule in favour of Firestorm. It's nothing to do with being "privileged".
However much you praise Bolt From The Blue's effort, Firestorm outdid that. Yes, Bolt From The Blue lifted Firestorm once, but not only did it not overturn Firestorm, but the latter was putting in more effort by landing more body blows (as weak as the impacts were) and by trying harder with its driving. Oh, and Bolt From The Blue's weapon ran out of power, so that's significant damage to count against it. It would've just been better if that last factor was communicated better. So no, Bolt From The Blue wasn't robbed. It was a close call, but Firestorm was the rightful winner, albeit only just.
Did the judges ever look back at footage? during Bolt from Blue and Firestorm II's battle, you can clearly see that even though Firestorm II may have played a more active role, it was Firestorm II which got attacked the most, it's honestly like one of those comical martial arts movies where random people run at martial artest only to get punched or stopped in their tracks etc, and you wouldn't give the person running all over the place getting no hits in the win in a martial art fight would you, so why here? I get there were marked on things other than damage but at the end of the day, this is robot wars and winning doesn't always mean running around and straight at your oppoent, also going back to what I said about the footage, is it me or at 21:09 did a piece of Firestorm II fall off? if so then yeah it was tiny, but the battle was so close that something like this should have been a huge factor in deciding who wins, from what I can tell Firestorm II ended up being more damaged then Bolt from the blue, but if someone wants to correct me on this please do so!
ok I can't believe I just wrote all this about something that happened when I was like 1 years old lol (although this was one of my fav shows as a really young kid so theres that I guess?)
That piece that fell off was a part of Bolt from the Blue. If you rewind the video just a little bit you can see that it was the diotoir fur that Bolt had on top of it. When firestorm when on top of bolt, then it knocked off that part as well. I believe that whenever team diotoir helped a team in the pit area they would add a little bit of the red fur onto their robot. That's why team diotoir won best sportmanship award for series 3, because they helped out so many teams in the pit area. It looks like it continued on with series 4.
Bolt From The Blue was the more damaged one, since its lifting arm stopped working. But regardless even of that, it didn't stop Firestorm in its tracks like some martial artist stopping somebody in the scenario you described. Bolt From The Blue was lazing around the majority of the time, and were just lucky that Firestorm couldn't get in underneath. And the only reason it managed to lift Firestorm that one time was because of the latter's advance - not by driving in underneath Firestorm. Other than that, the body blows Firestorm gave Bolt From The Blue may have had a weak payoff, but they were still attacks nonetheless. And it was far more effort than Bolt From The Blue was putting in.
@@ryanodonovan9497 You say that but looking back again, Bolt from the Blue attacked the side of Firestorm many times and shoved the robot with it's rear(not much, but then there wasn't much happening from either side) and I don't believe Firestorm ever lifted Bolt from blue and even if one time it was due to Firestorm's momentum, that doesn't change the fact that it was a negative for Firestorm. If you go headlong into a spike, you don't say it pierced the armour just because of the momentum as an argument for the attacker, if anything it makes the attacker look foolish for advancing into danger. Nevertheless, both robots manoeuvred around each other very well, almost like a dance, which was very well done.
No, it didn't. It lifted Firestorm once, but not only did it not overturn Firestorm, but the latter was putting in more effort by landing more body blows (as weak as the impacts were) and by trying harder with its driving. Oh, and Bolt From The Blue's weapon ran out of power, so that's significant damage to count against it. It would've just been better if that last factor was communicated better. As close as it was, Firestorm was the rightful winner, albeit only just.
The reason Firestorm won was because it landed more body blows against Bolt From The Blue than vice versa, the former was putting in more effort with its driving and control, and Bolt From The Blue's lifter was immobilised by the team captain's own comments. If it overturned Firestorm the one time it lifted it up, fair enough. Otherwise, not enough.
Those wins were the right calls. Firestorm put in more effort for its offense than Bolt From The Blue did, despite the latter getting a lift in. Fair enough if that lift _overturned_ Firestorm (as Graham Bone pointed out), but it didn't. Oh, and that lifter was immobilised, thus counting against it more. And The Morgue was caught by the pit to where it couldn't escape, BEFORE Firestorm went down. That's what the pit's supposed to do; trap robots in place for an INSTANT elimination, and that's what happened with The Morgue first. So it wasn't wrong to rule against it.
That entire heat had some ridiculous swings of luck, didn't it? The Morgue got through via opponent failure, then again after rolling over and then opponent failure, and then lost on a technicality with the pit against an opponent who arguably should have gone out in the previous round...
@@shinydavidhowell No, Firestorm shouldn't have gone out in the previous round. Its body blows against Bolt From The Blue had a weak payoff, but they were still attacks nonetheless which were a lot more than Bolt From The Blue lazing around most of the time and lifting Firestorm once without overturning it. The only reason Bolt From The Blue even got that lift was because of Firestorm's advance. Also, Bolt From The Blue's lifting arm was immobilised, thus it counted as damage sustained.
The Morgue shoulda won that. The judges were going with the fan favorite let's be real. The Morgue wasnt in the pit he was over it and Firestorm went in. Last I knew you lost going IN the pit not OVER
The pit's designed for robots to go in, but even if a robot gets stuck over it or on the edge, it's still trapped in a dead spot for instant elimination, which is the same as going down into it. And that's what happened with The Morgue, therefore the judges were not being biased. They were right to give it to Firestorm.
The staff had been hyping up firestorm since last series, it’s no wonder they’re through. Overall they’re a decent robot. But their steering is absolute shit and other robots have suffered worse consequences in scoring for bad steering.
Completely false. The Morgue's wheels are all in the pit, and according to Andrew Marchant of Tornado, once all your wheels are in the pit, you're classed as being in the pit. Firestorm won.
No, it wasn't. It was stuck on the edge of the pit with no escape, and the pit's purpose is to trap robots for an instant elimination whether like that or by going down it.
@@karlrudd8914 Yeah definitely, tbh it was only this season where I wasn't a fan and that was all based on the judges decision, was buzzing that they did so well in the 5th season
@@oliverpeacock7116 Why would you hate Firestorm for an official decision that the team didn't make? You even admit that it was through no fault of their own. That doesn't make any sense. Besides, whichever of the two judges' decisions it was given that you disagree with (you don't specify which one if not both), neither was wrong. Firestorm mounted more of an attack against Bolt From The Blue and put in far more effort, with Bolt From The Blue just lazing about and only getting one lift on Firestorm because of the latter's botched advance. Oh, and Bolt From The Blue's lifting arm stopped working. And The Morgue couldn't escape from the edge of the pit, therefore it counted as being pitted. That's what the pit's supposed to do - to trap robots for an instant elimination.
Can't believe Bland-Cassius got the nod over Bolt From The Blue and Morgue, simply because they were seeded. One of the worst performances from a seeded bot in a heat. Thankfully they're gone soon
What you think of Firestorm personally is irrelevant. It mounted more of an attack against Bolt From The Blue and put in far more effort, whereas Bolt From The Blue more so lazed about and its lift didn't Turn Firestorm over. Oh, and Bolt From The Blue's lifting arm stopped working. And The Morgue couldn't escape from the edge of the pit, therefore it counted as being pitted. That's what the pit's supposed to do - to trap robots for an instant elimination. It makes perfect sense that Firestorm got those judges' decisions. And by the way, "Bland-Cassius"? Firestorm surpassed Cassius whether you like it or not.
@Ryan O'Donovan - haha, you're joking right? Cassius influenced robot-design from it's inception to even the most modern series. Apollo, anyone? Whereas Bland-Cassius was a boring ripoff that was notable only for its utterly uninspired design
@@misterwishart You just contradicted yourself there. You argue in favour of robots taking influence from Cassius' design to this day, yet you don't treat Firestorm the same way and instead scoff at it as a rip-off? That doesn't make any sense. And once again, Firestorm took Cassius' design further. It was faster, better driven, had more power in its weapon, had more longevity, and actually won a Championship.
@Ryan O'Donovan Faster? Nope. Cassius hit 25mph. Better driven? Not to do with design, that's implementation More powerful? Any evidence of this? No contradiction here: Cassius was the originator; Firestorm was a bland knock-off
And to this day, Scar still remains undefeated. :)
The only other bot that can claim that honour being Ultor.
Its like Curtis Axel after the 2015 Royal Rumble.
Scar's notes: "Wants to smash up Hypno-Disc" Well, I admire the ambition
For years, I thought Bolt From the Blue were screwed over, but having watched it back, I now think Firestorm actually edged it on the basis that they were looking to cause more attacks. Bolt was more stationary and rooted to its spot, with Firestorm running round and trying again from another angle. In this case, I think Firestorm’s natural speed gave it the upper hand. Still a close battle, but now I’m a bit older I view it differently.
I agree with this. Plus if you look closely, you see a power link come out of Bolt from the Blue which operated their flipper. The judges probably counted that as damage since it took away their only weapon.
Yeah the aggression was clear, apparently according to the other reply there was in fact damage, stile was clear, control was bolt from the blue's only points that I can see.
I cannot wait to see who the next reply is two years from now
2:14 fully thought he was gonna say "I LOVE THE SMELL OF BALLS"
Firestorm vs. Bolt from the Blue looked more like a dance with kisses to me...I ship it XD
Diotoir is just very unlucky. I feel very sorry for the irish boys
Mind you their victory in the next series against Tornado was amazing!
the whole fourth wars the main series was just an absolute disaster for Diotoir they missed their connecting ferry from Ireland and when they got to the arena they discovered that the machine was overweight hence why they had no top armour in the arena. Then their weapon the spring loaded lifting arm the chain driving the weapon broke as did the back up chain and there was no time to find another back up. Not only that they had replace a speed controller as seen at 8:27 put that all together no wonder they were flipped by Ming 2 so quickly what a disaster.
17:39 Craig Charles out of no where
What did he say? Somehow cannot understand him
@@JspoonG Was saying "Doesn't stand a chance!"
Firestorm went down the pit, the morge was on the edge. Firestorm should be out
The Fourth Wars main series was an unmitigated disaster for Diotoir. The team missed their connecting ferry from Ireland, which delayed their arrival. Upon reaching the arena, they discovered that the machine was overweight, forcing them to strip off the top armor. This lack of protection proved critical in the arena.
To make matters worse, their spring-loaded lifting arm-their main weapon-was plagued with issues. The chain driving the weapon broke, and so did the backup chain, leaving them without a functional weapon. With no time to source another replacement, they were left severely handicapped. Adding to their woes, they had to replace a speed controller (as seen at 8:27 in the broadcast). When all these problems were compounded, it was no surprise that Ming 2 swiftly flipped Diotoir out of contention.
The side events brought slightly better fortunes, though not by much. Their Sumo Basho run was another disaster-they lasted barely three seconds before Shunt unceremoniously pushed them out. However, the Pinball Warrior Tournament was a rare highlight for the team. They delivered a solid performance, scoring a respectable 180 points.
The true bright spot of the series for Diotoir came in the Celebrity Special. Teaming up with Vic Reeves from Shooting Stars, the team made an impressive run to the final. Unfortunately, they lost to the formidable Pussycat, which had Ian Beale (played by Adam Woodyatt from EastEnders) joining Team Cold Fusion as the pilot. Losing to the Fourth Wars vice-champions was no shame, and this collaboration remains a memorable moment in Diotoir's otherwise disastrous Fourth Wars campaign.
It’s also interesting how Tornado won an entire series based on what the judges ruled The Morgue out on.
The key thing is, Razer was still hooked onto Tornado when cease was called, so technically Tornado was only suspended above the pit.
@@jackcarter5101 While I agree that Razer was still hanging onto Tornado, it still should've been DISQUALIFICATION for Tornado as they couldn't be pitted at all with that Ridiculous Frame around it so The Champions of Series 6 still should've been Razer!
@@davidfearis7335 As team Tornado pointed out, even with the frame, they were still within the maximum size allowed in the rules.
@@jackcarter5101 Indeed, I think the bottom line is that however which way people look at it, this Grand Final Battle will still have MAJOR CONTROVERSY for as long as we shall live
@@davidfearis7335 Mostly from Razor fanboys, but I take your point
We've had robots being eliminated the same way The Morgue did previously so it was the correct decision.
And we've had robots in that position getting lifted out by accident and freed by a houserobot and they did not get a 'you lost' ruling from the judges.
i call bs on that all day long. the judges screwed the morgue big time in the final
@@FabianPyka No, they didn't. The purpose of the pit is to trap robots to where they can't escape, which constitutes an instant elimination. That's the predicament The Morgue ended up in whether it got stuck on the edge or over it, or went down inside. So it rightfully lost. It's the same reason Raizer Blade lost against Suicidal Tendencies in Series 3, even though the latter was dead on one side first and should've lost right there, but that's a different matter.
@@ryanodonovan9497 If only they were that consistent when it came to the Tornado issue which was even more blatant.
@@nitelast I know. But the judges didn't count Tornado as being pitted because Razer was still attached to it, which is absolutely stupid because it was obvious that Tornado couldn't possibly have escaped its dead spot over the pit whether held there or not. Probophobia didn't have to detach from Snake Bite when pitting it; Razer also shouldn't have had to detach from Tornado when immobilising it over the pit.
Sad that Dorian, the Morgue's captain passed away in 2016 definitely sounded like a stand up guy
Damn, they were really a funny bunch of guys enjoyed them in this series and beyond.
Wait what?! What did he die of?
Might be fake.
Controversy is never far away but if we take the pit out of the picture I can see why the judges awarded the heat to Firestorm because it was dominating the Morgue all throughout the fight
The Morgue did very little the whole heat.
If they’d been beaten in round one, reinstated, got through a round two they were losing up until their opponent broke down, then got through the final they were also clearly losing just cause their opponent drove down the pit in the last second before cease was called, then they’d surely have gone down with Series 6 Spawn Again as the least deserving semi finalists ever.
for me there is no controversy at all. firestorm ended up in the pit so the morgue should have won
@@FabianPyka Wrong. The Morgue was immobilised on the edge of the pit before Firestorm went in, so the former rightfully lost. Even though The Morgue didn't go _down_ the pit, the pit's purpose is still to trap a robot for an instant loss, and that's the predicament The Morgue ended up in.
@@ryanodonovan9497Technically, yes The Morgue was trapped inside the pit while in a vaguely leaning position, therefore all of its drive wheels were suspended in thin air. From where the team could see it is hard to tell, but still rather than celebrating prematurely, they should've not wasted their chance to try driving The Morgue off the pit's edge and make a victory look official.
I feel like the judges made the right call in Firestorm vs Bolt From The Blue. Had Bolt used their weapon more they would have gotten through on aggression. There's also like 4 extra minutes of the fight we didn't see so it's hard to make an accurate decision on an edited fight like that.
A while back someone claiming to be the wife of that kid on Bolt from the blue posted a picture of a cake she had made in honour of the reboot, apparently the dude is still bitter about losing.
36:27 Tempting fate there, Alex!
40:23 Immobilised for 30 seconds and winning on points up to that point are both irrelevant, because being pitted means instant loss. The only relevant factor is that according to the rules, both robots were pitted, and Morgue was pitted first.
Scar is a nice looking bot. Looks very steampunk, very grunge. Pretty badass.
31:52 the deadpan delivery of this line by JP cracks me up for some reason
17:30 - I f'king love Craig Charles!
I still can't believe that symphony of failure with Morgue not quite fitting in the pit only for Firestorm to literally drive themselves in
Even though firestorm was more in the pit, morgue still fell in first and wouldn’t have gotten out.
I love Firestorm but I wouldn't have given them that win over Bolt From The Blue. They were more aggressive but it was rash; it kept getting them launched over their opponent, who got a couple of lifts in on them unlike Firestorm, who was more "stylish" simply for being faster but who caused no damage. A shame Bolt From The Blue's final words in the pit are cut out here; what did they say?
"Because they're a seed."
He basically said in another video which had full proof "Because they were seeded"
Agree
Firestorm were doing everything they could while Bolt from the Blue never tried to take hold of the match and showed no initiative. Firestorm couldn’t break the stalemate but BftB could have and didn’t. Sort of reminds me of the Wild Thing vs Trouble N Strife battle, the winning robot just fought harder and did more to earn their place in the next round. I agree Firestorm were not on form in series 4 but they were still the best robot in this heat.
It's an interesting case. When no damage is caused then the judges go to aggression, which BFTB didn't show too much of by comparison as they seemed to be driving more defensively. The times they got underneath were from Firestorm driving at them. The judges might've also noted the missed opportunities BFTB had to use their lifter, not helping the style or control points.
That's just my rough interpretation of it at least. Definitely a close one, but I think the judges got it right.
Look carefully and you can see the Pit isn't actually lowered as it seemed to have stopped halfway during the final.
Would have been interesting to see bolt from the blue vs scar or ming 2 in the heat final
I do not care for the eliminator format. All it takes is two teams/bots to gang up on the other one and it is over. I am sure this happened more than once. These teams worked beside each other in the pits and surely friendships developed.
33:57 Breathalyze that driver!
Time to update the wiki images!
BFTB had at least 4-5 chances to actually use the flipper and potentially score points but they didn't. Firestorm was constantly on the move trying to find that opportunity to get in underneath, while BFTB just span around in response.
Damn, Firestorm with 2 really questionable decisions. It would make more sense if the first bot that touches the bottom of the pit would lose in that tiebreaking scenario.
I think the problem is though that Morgue was so big it wouldn't fit in when pushed in from the side so if it was shorter it would have fell in 1st
Doesn't work that way, because of robots like Tornado who cannot touch the bottom of the pit in their web mode.
It’s all about immobilising the opponent. The pit is just a means to do it, whether it’s immobilised because it’s nose down in the pit, or its wheels are spinning in the air over the mouth of it, immobilisation is immobilisation. Remember, Rex Garrod had a means of getting out of the pit with Cassius 2, assuming it went in back first. His ram, he claimed, would lift it out, so even if you’re in the pit, if you’re still mobile, you’re still in the fight if you can get out. I don’t see a way for The Morgue to have gotten out of that situation.
When Firestorm pushed Hypno disc down the pit and went in with them, the judges called for a rematch, you wonder why they didn’t do it there too. I guess it wasn’t exactly close though, Firestorm was well ahead until that and even then The Morgue were immobilised first.
@@NoobixCube Cassius 2 wouldn't have been allowed to continue if it flipped out of the pit - that was just a supposed way to show off for fun which wouldn't have been anything more. Going into the pit means INSTANT ELIMINATION. What would be the point in having the pit if you could just escape from it and carry on?
#BRING BACK BASH........HIS FAVOURITE SONG............BURN BABY BURN BURN
Firestorm got lucky in both their battles there. Really controversial episode. Love it
Luck wasn't really a factor for Firestorm when facing The Morgue. It was a simple matter of seeing that the latter was caught by the pit and couldn't escape _before_ Firestorm went down; a dead spot that Firestorm put The Morgue in. But against Bolt From The Blue, yes, luck was more a factor, since Bolt From The Blue couldn't overturn Firestorm when lifting it up. And the former's weapon was immobilised. Not because of anything Firestorm did directly, but the fact it happened still meant damage sustained, thus Bolt From The Blue was rightfully penalised. It made it easier for Firestorm to get ahead with its effort, as little impact as it gave its opponent.
Bolt from the Blue really should have won that match since Firestorm never used its "primary weapon".
Not sure if serious or making a joke about the terrible rule
from this year’s battlebots.
It was a really bizarre battle. I think Firestorm II won on aggression and control, but no question their opponent thwarted them with the ground clearance. Even luckier in the final.
@@shinydavidhowell Yeah but this aggresion is like punching a wall
@@burzaburza2970 That doesn’t matter. It was still more than the one moment Bolt From The Blue got a lift on Firestorm. It it _overturned_ Firestorm, maybe the result would’ve been different. But that didn’t happen. Other than that, Firestorm was putting in all the effort while Bolt From The Blue was more so stationary. Oh, and its lifter was disabled, thus meaning something to count against it on the grounds of immobility.
Bolt From the Blue does have a weak spot at the back when it comes to wedges. Ming 2 managed to exploit this in the first round, so there's no reason why Firestorm couldn't do the same. As the fight wore on Firestorm, seemed to be targeting BFTB's rear, but either ended up missing or the opponent's quick turning circle kept Firestorm going at the more protected sides. What Firestorm should've tried was luring and pressing BFTB up against a wall from the rear, gaining enough force and leverage to tilt and flip it over.
Firestorm vs Bolt from the Blue - I think was the most evenly matched fight I've seen. Neither side could make any impression on the other. Firestorm was the faster, but it couldn't get under BTTB, BTTB lifted Firestorm a couple of times but Firestorm just drove off it again (very cunningly designed in that respect, is Firestorm) I think Firestorm was correctly the winner, but only just.
Dearie me, Firestorm so lucky.
Damn, Ming 2 could've waited a moment or two before immediately flipping Diotoir.
I don't understand why people thought Bolt from the Blue won their match against Firestorm. People seem to forget the criteria at that point, Firestorm was being more aggressive and in control, moving around, pushing and making attempts at Bolt from the Blue. Bolt had ran out of gas, so it was forced to miss a lot of opportunity it would've had in flipping Firestorm, that would've counted against Bolt when it comes to aggression. And from the most part Bolt was just driving in circles while Firestorm was making active attempts at getting underneath Bolt from the Blue. So Firestorm was the rightful winner here.
I guess they think that the one time Bolt From The Blue lifted Firestorm up was enough for the former to win - which it might have been if it _overturned_ Firestorm - yet they don't look at everything else. Plus, they're the type that scoff at Robot Wars for being rigged for popular robots, when really that's just based on their lack of ability to trust as well as to look at things objectively. Yes, the officials have made some terrible decisions and Mentorn have meddled here and there, but if people can look that far into the show, they should be able to see that it wasn't about that as most times the calls made were correct, as it was here.
The Morgue went into the pit first and got themselves wedge on the side before Firestorm went in, so The Morgue were being sore losers at the end.
David Fearis but then again, the judges let Tornado win Series 6 for the same thing.
@@pianoman1396 The difference there is that Razer was still hooked on to Tornado's anti-crusher whereas The Morgue wasn't held in its predicament, yet that difference shouldn't have mattered. Tornado still should've lost for the same reason The Morgue did. The former was landed in a dead spot over the pit that it blatantly wouldn't have escaped from whether it was held there or not, therefore Razer shouldn't have had to detach any more than Probophobia had to when it pitted Snake Bite.
I forgot how many times this show pretended to have rules. I only remember season 2 and 3
What pretending?
at 32:39 insert Mystrsyko2 's reaction here
So, let me get this straight.
Tornado won against Razer when they were fully over the pit, but Mourge goes out with only 2 wheels in the pit?
Very nice inconsistent rules you got there RW.
(Btw, i'm a huge firestorm fan, but i think the rules should be straight, not bent over the seasons like they have been for some reason, either Mourge should have won here, or Tornado should have lost their match)
There is actually complete consistency. The crucial difference is that when cease was called, Razer was still hooked onto Tornado, which means Tornado was only suspended above the pit, not in it. Whereas Morgue was completely over the pit (actually all four wheels, not two) without being held there.
@@jackcarter5101 That's honestly just bs, they were in..
@@Dead25m Like it or not, them's the rules
@@jackcarter5101 The fact that Tornado was allowed something that can't fit in the pit is just dumb though
@@Dead25m There have been numerous robots too big for the pit. The rule is that if all your wheels are stuck over the pit, then you are pitted, UNLESS you are being held there, like Tornado.
26:41 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Need the producers of Kitchen Nightmare's down here. There's some people living in serious DENIAL!!!!!!!!!
The robot was called Firestorm 2 because they had 2 battles in a row they should have lost, but won instead
It did deserve to win them both though
Did Diotoir have no top on their robot?
Yes, they were overweight
The fight between Firestorm 2 and Bolt from the blue is a bit boring and Meh,but is that kid wearing a Pokemon shirt?
What the heck is this Heat honestly. In the semi, Firestorm not using it's flipper once, almost get's flipped by Bolt. Still progressing to the final. The final, Firestorm has CLEARLY driven into the pit but still is the winner?! There is absolute no logic to this whatsoever. I feel the producers just wanted Firestorm to progress to the semifinal because they were a Top 5 robot. Bullshit.
No, that's what your comment is. How much did you even pay attention to when things were explained clearly enough in this episode?
Firstly, if that one lift Bolt From The Blue got on Firestorm _overturned_ it - as Graham Bone pointed out - it might very well have been right to give the win to Bolt From The Blue. But there's more to scoring points than just using your weaponry. Firestorm didn't get to use its flipper, but it still put in the most effort with its control and aggression to knock against Bolt From The Blue. And no, those body blows didn't have much of an impact, but they were still more than one moment of Bolt From The Blue getting a lift in whilst mostly waiting around for Firestorm to move in. Also, talking of weapons, it was later revealed that Bolt From The Blue's lifter was immobilised, so that's some significant damage for the robot to be penalised on. It was right to give Firestorm the win, albeit only just.
And secondly, Firestorm going into the pit happened AFTER The Morgue was caught by it. It doesn't matter that the latter didn't actually go down; the pit is an entrapment hazard for instant elimination whether you're in it or stuck over it or on the edge. The Morgue's dead spot came first, and that's that.
Mentorn were not biased for Firestorm, and that's just a lazy judgment people like you like to make before even looking at the bigger picture. So you're nobody to accuse anybody of lacking in logic. Firestorm was voted for because it was the right thing to do, whether you like it or not.
morgue wasn't pitted. It was stuck on the side of the pit and wasn't stuck for 30 seconds so should have won.
Wrong. The pit has always meant INSTANT ELIMINATION; it doesn’t incorporate the 30-second rule. So yes, The Morgue _was_ pitted.
That damn Firestorm team/build is biased as fuck. Judges (and many other) favors them over the others. That's also why they are so high in the seed. Like, you heard what Craig said when passing by the Bolt From The Blue team while they were interviewed (17:38) That just tells how privileged they actually are when battles ends up on judges decision.
Edit: It is true though that the opponents here weren't that good either but this is not first time when Firestorm gets through only because judges. (Battle against Bolt From The Blue was controversial though. It actually favored the Bolt. Firestorm didn't even used ONCE their weapon. And Firestorm seemed to be more aggressive only because their robot is way faster.)
And because Firestorm were actually mounting attacks and putting in the majority of the effort regardless of the weak payoff, whereas Bolt From The Blue was mostly just lazing about the entire time. I'll take all those body blows Firestorm gave Bolt From The Blue any day over the latter lifting Firestorm once without turning it over, and only even getting that lift because of Firestorm's advance.
Even James Proctor revealed something else inadvertently that went against his machine...
*"We were robbed, if I do say so myself. Our weapon didn't break - it ran out of air, we could only use it 5/6 times. Plus we were 15/16 yrs old, and they were university engineering graduates."*
Whether the weapon broke or ran out of air, it was immobilised, and that counts as damage sustained. And the difference in the teams' ages and experience is irrelevant.
Bolt From The Blue was not robbed - it was right to rule in favour of Firestorm. It's nothing to do with being "privileged".
Blue got robbed tbh, they showed good tactics
However much you praise Bolt From The Blue's effort, Firestorm outdid that. Yes, Bolt From The Blue lifted Firestorm once, but not only did it not overturn Firestorm, but the latter was putting in more effort by landing more body blows (as weak as the impacts were) and by trying harder with its driving. Oh, and Bolt From The Blue's weapon ran out of power, so that's significant damage to count against it. It would've just been better if that last factor was communicated better.
So no, Bolt From The Blue wasn't robbed. It was a close call, but Firestorm was the rightful winner, albeit only just.
Not the best heat but not the worst heat of season 4 of robot wars.
Did the judges ever look back at footage? during Bolt from Blue and Firestorm II's battle, you can clearly see that even though Firestorm II may have played a more active role, it was Firestorm II which got attacked the most, it's honestly like one of those comical martial arts movies where random people run at martial artest only to get punched or stopped in their tracks etc, and you wouldn't give the person running all over the place getting no hits in the win in a martial art fight would you, so why here? I get there were marked on things other than damage but at the end of the day, this is robot wars and winning doesn't always mean running around and straight at your oppoent, also going back to what I said about the footage, is it me or at 21:09 did a piece of Firestorm II fall off? if so then yeah it was tiny, but the battle was so close that something like this should have been a huge factor in deciding who wins, from what I can tell Firestorm II ended up being more damaged then Bolt from the blue, but if someone wants to correct me on this please do so!
ok I can't believe I just wrote all this about something that happened when I was like 1 years old lol (although this was one of my fav shows as a really young kid so theres that I guess?)
@@sirsquid577 I was in year 6 I think, 11 or 12 years old
That piece that fell off was a part of Bolt from the Blue. If you rewind the video just a little bit you can see that it was the diotoir fur that Bolt had on top of it. When firestorm when on top of bolt, then it knocked off that part as well.
I believe that whenever team diotoir helped a team in the pit area they would add a little bit of the red fur onto their robot.
That's why team diotoir won best sportmanship award for series 3, because they helped out so many teams in the pit area. It looks like it continued on with series 4.
Bolt From The Blue was the more damaged one, since its lifting arm stopped working. But regardless even of that, it didn't stop Firestorm in its tracks like some martial artist stopping somebody in the scenario you described. Bolt From The Blue was lazing around the majority of the time, and were just lucky that Firestorm couldn't get in underneath. And the only reason it managed to lift Firestorm that one time was because of the latter's advance - not by driving in underneath Firestorm. Other than that, the body blows Firestorm gave Bolt From The Blue may have had a weak payoff, but they were still attacks nonetheless. And it was far more effort than Bolt From The Blue was putting in.
@@ryanodonovan9497 You say that but looking back again, Bolt from the Blue attacked the side of Firestorm many times and shoved the robot with it's rear(not much, but then there wasn't much happening from either side) and I don't believe Firestorm ever lifted Bolt from blue and even if one time it was due to Firestorm's momentum, that doesn't change the fact that it was a negative for Firestorm. If you go headlong into a spike, you don't say it pierced the armour just because of the momentum as an argument for the attacker, if anything it makes the attacker look foolish for advancing into danger. Nevertheless, both robots manoeuvred around each other very well, almost like a dance, which was very well done.
Firestorm was from Durham and won the commonwealth carnage episode in extreme 2. From Joe. X
Bolt from the Blue got robbed in this one.
No, it didn't. It lifted Firestorm once, but not only did it not overturn Firestorm, but the latter was putting in more effort by landing more body blows (as weak as the impacts were) and by trying harder with its driving. Oh, and Bolt From The Blue's weapon ran out of power, so that's significant damage to count against it. It would've just been better if that last factor was communicated better. As close as it was, Firestorm was the rightful winner, albeit only just.
@@ryanodonovan9497 I see, I see.
Why Bolt From The Blue Is Not Won? That Decision Is Controversial! 😡
The reason Firestorm won was because it landed more body blows against Bolt From The Blue than vice versa, the former was putting in more effort with its driving and control, and Bolt From The Blue's lifter was immobilised by the team captain's own comments. If it overturned Firestorm the one time it lifted it up, fair enough. Otherwise, not enough.
Firestorm was given 2 of its wins. Nuff said.
Those wins were the right calls. Firestorm put in more effort for its offense than Bolt From The Blue did, despite the latter getting a lift in. Fair enough if that lift _overturned_ Firestorm (as Graham Bone pointed out), but it didn't. Oh, and that lifter was immobilised, thus counting against it more. And The Morgue was caught by the pit to where it couldn't escape, BEFORE Firestorm went down. That's what the pit's supposed to do; trap robots in place for an INSTANT elimination, and that's what happened with The Morgue first. So it wasn't wrong to rule against it.
Cobblers there! Resting on top of the pit ISN'T going in thepit! The Morgue was robbed!!
If you can't escape the pit by driving over it then you are in the pit
Morgue were nearly the luckiest robot in history...
That entire heat had some ridiculous swings of luck, didn't it? The Morgue got through via opponent failure, then again after rolling over and then opponent failure, and then lost on a technicality with the pit against an opponent who arguably should have gone out in the previous round...
David Howell I guess you could call Firestorm lucky too, although I agree with them winning round 2 on a very close decision.
XCAltoona Very close. Bolt from the Blue had the ground clearance advantage, preventing any meaningful attacks, but wasn't the aggressor either.
Nowadays though I'd like to see a robot try to out-luck Pulsar.
@@shinydavidhowell No, Firestorm shouldn't have gone out in the previous round. Its body blows against Bolt From The Blue had a weak payoff, but they were still attacks nonetheless which were a lot more than Bolt From The Blue lazing around most of the time and lifting Firestorm once without overturning it. The only reason Bolt From The Blue even got that lift was because of Firestorm's advance. Also, Bolt From The Blue's lifting arm was immobilised, thus it counted as damage sustained.
The Morgue shoulda won that. The judges were going with the fan favorite let's be real. The Morgue wasnt in the pit he was over it and Firestorm went in. Last I knew you lost going IN the pit not OVER
The pit's designed for robots to go in, but even if a robot gets stuck over it or on the edge, it's still trapped in a dead spot for instant elimination, which is the same as going down into it. And that's what happened with The Morgue, therefore the judges were not being biased. They were right to give it to Firestorm.
The staff had been hyping up firestorm since last series, it’s no wonder they’re through. Overall they’re a decent robot. But their steering is absolute shit and other robots have suffered worse consequences in scoring for bad steering.
Technically, Morgue never went into the Pit, it just got wedged on top of it. Firestorm did. Morgue won that battle, plain as day.
The idea of the pit is to stop robots getting away...The Morgue couldn't get away, therefore, it was classed as in the pit...it's not difficult...
Either you are in the pit or you aren't, and according to the rules, Morgue was in it.
Completely false. The Morgue's wheels are all in the pit, and according to Andrew Marchant of Tornado, once all your wheels are in the pit, you're classed as being in the pit. Firestorm won.
Firestorm paid the judges
Yeah, and the Earth is also flat. 🙄
Worst episode ever!
THE MORGUE WAS ROBBED
No, it wasn't. It was stuck on the edge of the pit with no escape, and the pit's purpose is to trap robots for an instant elimination whether like that or by going down it.
This episode made me despise Firestorm through no fault of their own
Nah man there are other bots worthy of hate more than firestorm. Still probably shouldn't have won
@@karlrudd8914 Yeah definitely, tbh it was only this season where I wasn't a fan and that was all based on the judges decision, was buzzing that they did so well in the 5th season
@@oliverpeacock7116 Why would you hate Firestorm for an official decision that the team didn't make? You even admit that it was through no fault of their own. That doesn't make any sense. Besides, whichever of the two judges' decisions it was given that you disagree with (you don't specify which one if not both), neither was wrong. Firestorm mounted more of an attack against Bolt From The Blue and put in far more effort, with Bolt From The Blue just lazing about and only getting one lift on Firestorm because of the latter's botched advance. Oh, and Bolt From The Blue's lifting arm stopped working. And The Morgue couldn't escape from the edge of the pit, therefore it counted as being pitted. That's what the pit's supposed to do - to trap robots for an instant elimination.
Can't believe Bland-Cassius got the nod over Bolt From The Blue and Morgue, simply because they were seeded. One of the worst performances from a seeded bot in a heat. Thankfully they're gone soon
It really wasn't a good run. Still a cool bot
What you think of Firestorm personally is irrelevant. It mounted more of an attack against Bolt From The Blue and put in far more effort, whereas Bolt From The Blue more so lazed about and its lift didn't Turn Firestorm over. Oh, and Bolt From The Blue's lifting arm stopped working. And The Morgue couldn't escape from the edge of the pit, therefore it counted as being pitted. That's what the pit's supposed to do - to trap robots for an instant elimination. It makes perfect sense that Firestorm got those judges' decisions.
And by the way, "Bland-Cassius"? Firestorm surpassed Cassius whether you like it or not.
@Ryan O'Donovan - haha, you're joking right? Cassius influenced robot-design from it's inception to even the most modern series. Apollo, anyone?
Whereas Bland-Cassius was a boring ripoff that was notable only for its utterly uninspired design
@@misterwishart You just contradicted yourself there. You argue in favour of robots taking influence from Cassius' design to this day, yet you don't treat Firestorm the same way and instead scoff at it as a rip-off? That doesn't make any sense.
And once again, Firestorm took Cassius' design further. It was faster, better driven, had more power in its weapon, had more longevity, and actually won a Championship.
@Ryan O'Donovan
Faster? Nope. Cassius hit 25mph.
Better driven? Not to do with design, that's implementation
More powerful? Any evidence of this?
No contradiction here: Cassius was the originator; Firestorm was a bland knock-off