Nice job showing different options. For many years when I need to put a hole in canvas, nylon cordura etc i use a round tip soldering iron. This seals the hole for fraying and I never have to worry about cutting a hole to big.
I have a Teton Mesa canvas tent and installed a canvas stove jack on a wall. Tried using tear mender, but had issues with it as an adhesive. I ended up using an outdoor water resistant canvas repair tape, which was mess free and easy to apply. I overlapped the tape for a better weather seal. So far no issues and the canvas tape seems to be strong and adhering well. Minus the cost of the tear mender, it cost me about $60.00 for the stove jack and a couple of rolls of the canvas tape. Your video was very informative.
Good reviews and ideas. Couldn't come at better time. I have a synthetic teepee 16' in diameter. I have a Winnerwell like yours, but it's too small for the size of tent. So I purchased yesterday, a conventional camp metal stove, 5" pipe, which reduces to 4" (nesting). The top of my teepee is constructed like a historical teepee, with flaps controlled by ropes. I guess I'll be on the hunt for a Winnerwell type heat protector to go straight up, the 11.5 feet to the top and higher so sparks hopefully are dead by then, and/or spark arrestor. Cheers
Pro tip, use plinking shears to cut canvas and it will stop the material from fraying, these are the same shears people use when tailoring clothing then you can sew the edges over and inward to the tent so it looks a lot nicer, doing this will make sure it never frays, then you can hit the cancas with some silicone and white spirit mixture to seal it forever
Great video! Can rain water enter through holes in the heat shield on the stove pipe? Looks like it would be able to come through hole and drip down into the tent
It could come in through that hole if it's raining hard. But in my experience, if you put the stove jack on the wall it's not a big problem. And when. It comes in onto the stove itself it burns off into vapor right away from the heat of the stove as long as it's running. Could be a problem in some situations, but preventable if you use one of those silicone flanges.
I am looking at the glue on method, with a cut to fit hole stove jack. I noticed on some of the installs there is considerable gap between the jack and the stove pipe. Is this desired, or more prone to water and bugs coming in your tent... especially during the day where the stove may not be in use... or at night in a rain storm
I wouldn't necessarily say the gap is desired, but it's sort of a side effect of the pre-made jacks not being made specifically for everyone's stove pipes. I also would argue it's not a huge deal, even in rain or snow. In my experience, it doesn't let a tone in, and most of it evaporates off from the heat of the stove pipe before it ever pools up in the tent. You could add one of those silicone flashing kits to this to get a tight seal.
Your experience installing the various types of stove jacks is very helpful, but I notice that you have not attached any wires to the stovepipe to secure them from blowing over or coming apart in a windstorm, and I know that can be an issue. Can you address this issue?
A couple thoughts. 1. For this video I wasn't actually camping, I just did the stove jack work and set up the stove for demonstration so I didn't bother with securing the chimney. 2. Indeed guy lines for the chimney are a good idea in really windy weather or for extended campouts. 3. I rarely actually do that because it's a hassle and kids trip on the guy lines and the stoves I have are pretty darn secure even in 40mph gusts. But that's just me.
Probably that last one I called the minimalist method. You'd just want to match the right kind of adhesive for your tarp material. You could also run one seam along the top or in the corners to reinforce it. Just make sure you seal them up with seam tape or some kind of sealant. Good luck!
Interesting, but..... #2 SEW IN That won't last long. ANd what;s that crap at 7:54??? Come on! This is a long term mod, so why doing it on the cheap with shortcuts???? You need to fold all 4 sides then do the stiching. Also, why using a knife to make the hole???? Last, trace the template on the tent while mounted, but do NOT do the stiching until the canvas is flat on a table or the ground. #3 GLUE IN It's simple, don't use that methode. #4 NO HOLE Stay away from that if you care about your tent and safety. #5 MINIMALIST Again, not good. One final word: You can buy a pre-made stove jacket (the one with the flap is great), but you can also use a piece of welder blanket. Just go to a welder ask if he/she has an old one still good to use, or buy it new at your local hardware store.
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Nice job showing different options.
For many years when I need to put a hole in canvas, nylon cordura etc i use a round tip soldering iron. This seals the hole for fraying and I never have to worry about cutting a hole to big.
Great tip, that is for sharing!
Great idea
I was planning on cutting a hole in my Teton tomorrow, definitely bringing my soldering iron now. Thanks for the tip. 👍🏻
This is a pretty informative video which, I am sure, took a lot of work on your part. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful! And yes, it took at least 3 full days to make a 20 minute video.
I have a Teton Mesa canvas tent and installed a canvas stove jack on a wall. Tried using tear mender, but had issues with it as an adhesive. I ended up using an outdoor water resistant canvas repair tape, which was mess free and easy to apply. I overlapped the tape for a better weather seal. So far no issues and the canvas tape seems to be strong and adhering well. Minus the cost of the tear mender, it cost me about $60.00 for the stove jack and a couple of rolls of the canvas tape. Your video was very informative.
That's awesome! I like your idea of the canvas tape too, sounds easier and less of a mess. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for sharing
Good reviews and ideas. Couldn't come at better time. I have a synthetic teepee 16' in diameter. I have a Winnerwell like yours, but it's too small for the size of tent. So I purchased yesterday, a conventional camp metal stove, 5" pipe, which reduces to 4" (nesting). The top of my teepee is constructed like a historical teepee, with flaps controlled by ropes. I guess I'll be on the hunt for a Winnerwell type heat protector to go straight up, the 11.5 feet to the top and higher so sparks hopefully are dead by then, and/or spark arrestor. Cheers
Wow! That sounds like quite the setup. I'd love to hear how it ends up.
Pro tip, use plinking shears to cut canvas and it will stop the material from fraying, these are the same shears people use when tailoring clothing then you can sew the edges over and inward to the tent so it looks a lot nicer, doing this will make sure it never frays, then you can hit the cancas with some silicone and white spirit mixture to seal it forever
Great tip!
Great video! Can rain water enter through holes in the heat shield on the stove pipe? Looks like it would be able to come through hole and drip down into the tent
It could come in through that hole if it's raining hard. But in my experience, if you put the stove jack on the wall it's not a big problem. And when. It comes in onto the stove itself it burns off into vapor right away from the heat of the stove as long as it's running. Could be a problem in some situations, but preventable if you use one of those silicone flanges.
@@theoutdoorempire excellent thank you! Love your channel.
I am looking at the glue on method, with a cut to fit hole stove jack. I noticed on some of the installs there is considerable gap between the jack and the stove pipe. Is this desired, or more prone to water and bugs coming in your tent... especially during the day where the stove may not be in use... or at night in a rain storm
I wouldn't necessarily say the gap is desired, but it's sort of a side effect of the pre-made jacks not being made specifically for everyone's stove pipes. I also would argue it's not a huge deal, even in rain or snow. In my experience, it doesn't let a tone in, and most of it evaporates off from the heat of the stove pipe before it ever pools up in the tent. You could add one of those silicone flashing kits to this to get a tight seal.
Your experience installing the various types of stove jacks is very helpful, but I notice that you have not attached any wires to the stovepipe to secure them from blowing over or coming apart in a windstorm, and I know that can be an issue. Can you address this issue?
A couple thoughts. 1. For this video I wasn't actually camping, I just did the stove jack work and set up the stove for demonstration so I didn't bother with securing the chimney. 2. Indeed guy lines for the chimney are a good idea in really windy weather or for extended campouts. 3. I rarely actually do that because it's a hassle and kids trip on the guy lines and the stoves I have are pretty darn secure even in 40mph gusts. But that's just me.
What method would you use to put a jack in a synthetic tarp?
Probably that last one I called the minimalist method. You'd just want to match the right kind of adhesive for your tarp material. You could also run one seam along the top or in the corners to reinforce it. Just make sure you seal them up with seam tape or some kind of sealant. Good luck!
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Interesting, but.....
#2 SEW IN
That won't last long. ANd what;s that crap at 7:54??? Come on! This is a long term mod, so why doing it on the cheap with shortcuts???? You need to fold all 4 sides then do the stiching. Also, why using a knife to make the hole???? Last, trace the template on the tent while mounted, but do NOT do the stiching until the canvas is flat on a table or the ground.
#3 GLUE IN
It's simple, don't use that methode.
#4 NO HOLE
Stay away from that if you care about your tent and safety.
#5 MINIMALIST
Again, not good.
One final word: You can buy a pre-made stove jacket (the one with the flap is great), but you can also use a piece of welder blanket. Just go to a welder ask if he/she has an old one still good to use, or buy it new at your local hardware store.
Thanks for the feedback and the tips. My examples definitely leave room for improvement. Happy camping!
@@theoutdoorempire This time, they do. But other videos were top #1
Okay well how would you do it smart-guy?
@@GarageGeek ...in a smart way Mr. Not-so-Geek....
@@DiabloOutdoors If you don’t want to say I guess you are the only one who will ever know how clever and smart you are.