Yup 55 years ago my wife and I winter camped on a mountain top in Arizona and learned it was a lot different than camping in the desert:-) I wish “real” hot or winter camping tents has a 16 inch “skirt” just above the tent stake holes so once the tent was up you could pull down the “skirt” and cover with snow, pieces of wood or dirt.. that would make a tent more air tight. If you want “air” you can leave the door opening up a bit. Good l😢uck
HINT my wife and I learned 55 years ago when camping in the Arizona desert with very hard clay rocky soil… we tried the plastic tent stakes and when those didn’t work we tried the metal tent stakes… both just squashed and bent as we pounded them into the hard ground.. we went to a building supply store and bought 12 inch pole barn nails which worked great. We used them for years.. cheap, tough and you can buy them up online to 16 inches long. Good luck
@@alallington5732 exactly like me. For "normal" hiking backpack camp, i bring of course the alu ones, but when with a motorised transport, i bring, like you, 25cm steel spikes. They can enter even in the ground where the huge campers are parked, but damn, all of them are insanely heavy for a backpack.
Couple of tips; Don't completely cut a hole in the chimney panel but instead make an 8 slice pizza cut in it so that you can fit the chimney pipe snugly and then cut to the angle. Try to angle the stove and the inner mesh closer when you are setting up so that you can reach from inside to feed the stove if you need to, later in the night. As you are clearing your tent area, pile the snow in a wall around the tent on the windward side so that the tent edges are in a a depression, helps with the wind. When setting up the stove, try adding only a single chimney pipe and making a small fire. allows you to warm one edge of the other pipes and makes putting things together a bit more easier. A couple of sacrificial oven/heat mitts around the lower parts of the stove pipes provide a surprisingly good quality of live improvement.
You’re not the only UA-camr to bring up the problem of US companies being priced out by Chinese companies in the budget gear category. Hopefully companies in the US will listen to everyone and keep in mind that not everyone can or wants to throw down $500+ on a tent and $300+ on a stove. And even some of us who can afford it don’t get out enough for it to be worth spending that sort of money.
I am all for capitalism! Stop the tariffs and let all foreign countries sell their stuff here.. Competition makes US companies work harder and smarter to compete.. many foreign made products are well made, innovative and much cheaper than the stuff made in USA.. Let freedom reign and let capitalism work freely
$20 minimum wage to work at McDonalds and a population of wimps, combined with millions of people who are not from the USA on welfare. America will be a third worl country and al, you commenting will get to find out what tent life is like.
Flip outside tent... inside out in summer.. reflect sunlight.. the black inside help keep cool and dark.. an idea just popped in my head.. then you could use a cooler box to chill inside tent at night.. keep hot out, or cold out.. win winn
I’ve learned wrapping motorcycle exhaust wrapping tape around the stove pipe at the jack helps seal and also keeps the pipe from directly touching the tent itself
Nice to see someone do a review on some budget options, rather than the expensive stuff every time. I took your point about the spark arrester not being fully up to the job. Any idea what dimension the stove pipe is where it fits the arrester? Wondering if you could get a top with a finer gauze etc? thanks for the review.
I’ve had one standing for 6 months last year and close that this year and it’s held up very well in numerous high wind storms as well as one good ice storm. The ice once melted and refrozen did cut into the door when I opened it without removing it. It made a small tear but I was able to patch it with gorilla tape had the dog tear it down once ripping a tie ooff down about 6 inches but was able to stitch it up and patch over and seal with gorilla tape. These type tents have plenty of room and hold up very well!
If I'm not mistaken, you're not supposed to have all that space left around the outside on the bottom, it should be touching the ground. Black is the best color for winter time, because black draws heat and that's what you want to keep the tent warmer in the winter.
I have just purchased this tent from Amazon and it is mint for the conditions in the UK. I have changed the inner for a more suitable one that is lighter the the 1kg that is supplied with the tent. I now have a stove and tent that is under 5kg for bushcraft camps and pitched correctly its a pretty good setup! All the best from the UK 😉 its polycotton material which is about 60d plus which is quite good. 😉
I basically bought that stove, but I have a One Tigress tent (ironwall I think). Very cheap stove, it warps a bit, but it works and I love having a stove in the late autumn.
I've complained about the pricing to get into hot tenting, so I think this is a great entry point. I may actually buy one. I haven't bothered to date because I didn't think it was worth the price to use once or twice a year. You earned a new sub
Put the clamps on the next tube up at the bottom they act as a stop so it won't slide down into the next tube down past a certain point. Hope it helps I have that same stove it took me a good minute to figure that out
I doubt it very much that America will sell anything cheap like that Teepee tent because I think material and parts are expensive but one never knows what can happen in the future . Thank you for sharing this video and the information .
Ya, I think that is a big part of the problem. Even if we make the stuff in the US, the materials often come from abroad anyway so the cost to get them here goes up.
I like that tent and stove. I bought a 4 to 6 person tent from Walmart for 160 and a small stove for $92. I had to get a big tent for my friend, my son, my dog and I. I don't buy from Amazon because they stole my $100. Said my gift card I purchased from Lowe's was not mine and they took it and said I am committing fraud. Big R did almost the same thing. After I purchased the card they say it's no longer creditable because they were changing owners. You got to watch out for these crooked scams they do. That's how the rich gets richer.. I totally stopped shopping with gift cards. Two bites was all I needed to learn that lesson.
@@theoutdoorempire As someone who has used a Pomoly hot tent in the summer, with the right ventilation, you can control the temperature pretty well. You just gotta have that good circulation.
I bought that same stove. I haven't used it yet, but will be in a couple weeks and I can't wait. I agree the pipes suck. 2 of mine got bound together and won't come apart no matter what I do.
use a propane torch and torch the eff out of the joint;it`ll burn the crap and wont break anything (use judgement!) its how I clean my stainless hardware (heat untill it stops smoking)
I wanna get into this, but one thing I can’t figure out is why most of these tents are completely sealed at the bottom yet are called hot tents? I can’t imagine that those little stoves are keeping you warm when the stove is in the inlet of the tent where as your sleeping area is in a pad surrounded by mesh? Are there any hot tents that are completely sealed?
One way to get around the stove placement is to get the metal flex pipe it ticks it over a lil bit but see I got the 5m tent so I’ve got no issues with space I have the tent plus stove plus table 2 chairs 2 50L cold boxes (esky) and a swag inside for sleeping in it’s great more glamping then camping haha but 5-10minute set up easy as
And also a lil hack around the stove start with wood through the day but wen going to bed throw in some fire logs or heat beads (bbq/smoker logs you get from the hardware store)some burn for 6-8hours and put out a lot of heat
Thank you so much for telling us about the fiddly screws on the wood stove. I have dyspraxia and that gives me poor fine motor skills. I would not have been able to deal with the frustration.
Thanks for the comment. Actually, even my nicer stoves nest this way by design (upper pipe sits inside lower pipe). The reason being that it keeps creosote from leaking down and out through the cracks and running down the outside of the pipe making a mess and a fire hazard. Smoke escaping through those fittings hasn't been a problem I've experienced.
Thanks for the vid. The innate steepness of the tent sides seems like a fire hazard, like it would touch the side of the stove pipe as the side slightly oscillates in the breeze.
It is my favorite! It's the Cabela's Wooltimate 3/4 zip hoodie. Great for hunting and winter camping, sheds moisture, cuts the wind a bit, and super warm.
I have that stove and it is awesome so far…. My flue is different, an Nd the pipe joints and the fire arrester has metal with holes…. There is another full time camping guy that uses that stove all the time…. That’s why I bought it especially the price!
The whole setup looks quite ok for the price, however about the stove pipes, even if you don''t see any smoke leaking, you shoul be more careful about carbon monoxhhyde which is most likely to harm you, is invisible and have no smell, i'm quite confident you can find some device for monitoring it. nice video btw
Well I definitely appreciate about how difficult it can be when it's cold to tighten clamps or something. I'm real comfortable if I've got a fire going and can warm up hands and even tools I'm working with. Definitely hurts to work bare handed in way below freezing.
I have just bought that stove through ebay , it's not for hot tenting though so glad about that as it is a pain taking it down & the chimney pipes are the most awkward to put away ( that's why i haven't put them all inslde each other , only done 3 of them ) but i love the stove so found a bigger bag to keep it all together & carry it .
Did you think about throwing snow on the bottom edge of the tent or did it not work because it doesn’t have the flaps of extra material between the stakes??? Have fun be safe.
In my experience, no. I think the box is just too small to be able to hold enough wood, even hardwood, to burn low and slow all night. A few hours max.
NGL that tent looks better than my Minipeak XL which cost almost four times the price with the inner (much less mesh) and pole which both had to be bought separately, I doubt it’s as light but it can’t be that much heavier. Yes I can use mine comfortably in winter without the stove, it’s more spacious and it’s much more flexible in set up but is it worth four times the price, not likely. Edit: Just checked at it’s pretty much the same weight as mine with the inner! 🤦🏻♂️
Im using one of these cheap tipi tents, cool and all but i am seriously considering pulling the trigger on a nortent lavvo 6 . Woke up to frogs ,squeals and monkeys in the tent just last week.
Not a bad review, it’s was pretty informative I probably won’t be getting that tent or stove even though I am interested in a hot tent and a small easily portable stove. I don’t do solo camping, at least not yet so would need a larger tent no matter what the season. Probably no larger than a 4 person tent because I like room to move around, I am slightly claustrophobic so a small tent like that will be no good for me. Here is an idea for another review for you to think about, how about checking out those sleds that I see winter campers/hikers/hunters sometimes use to haul their gear with them… They just pull it along behind them as they go….
Well it's not a bad tent except it lacks snow skirts. Snow skirts. Are those extra long little pieces that you pile the snow on to keep the extra air from coming in your tent. That's the only thing this tent seems to be lacking.
Nice video bud! Good content and assessment. I have a hot tent but I didnt pay 160 -thats a steal. Youre location looks familiar to me so maybe we will see each other around. Keep it up!
Ya I saw that somewhere. Just not sure if I believe it. Seems like the reflective side should be facing outward in that case. But I might have to try it out in summer just to know.
The tent is okay. I might like one that was a little bigger. The black exterior is designed to absorb heat from the sun. As far as the stove, I like the stove but not the stack. I would replace the stack with a roll and ring type.
I haven't used the tent again since this video, but if it's still as cheap as it was when I got it then it's a pretty good deal. I'd pass on the stove though, really not a fan of that chimney design. It's pretty janky.
I camp in the forest exclusively so sunshine turning it into a sauna doesnt bother me; The inner is what let this thing down so i bought an inner from 3F UL gear (for the tribe tipi tent, aliexpress, actually fits) that transforms the whole deal but nospace for a stove, thus a summer proposition. Stock small inner for stove kit. Oh, I also added a Mceto bathtub footprint. Sure it adds up but nothing is lost, I still have a good footprint and inner besides the initial proposition. I tend to leave my tents and hammocks where they stand all summer long and just trek to whichever I feel like. Its really isolated out here...one day I wont be getting back home....lol
@@theoutdoorempire Its fun; the spots where I feel its best not to leave a tent raised I just put it back in its sleeve and tie it to a tree; it doesnt bother me to rebuild the tent as I`m a young retired dude and building the tent is part of the fun, almost like a ritual. Leaving the heavy pieces in situ means that much that you dont have to carry the next time! Just the sleeping bag and other whatnots (which can be heavy because I like my tech) I might leave cookwares pillows and anything that will not gather moisture/rot/mold
The hole, which is at an angle, needs to be elliptical to give you ½" - 1" clearance the whole distance around the pipe. The fabric shouldn't touch the chimney, which is +250° hot. That's a user error, and not the tent's fault!
@theoutdoorempire lol Same here and glad to help. My house wood stove chimney was a long, painful learning curve. I had to switch my saw halfway through when I started to smell burning shingles!!
The stove seems nice, I personally don't mind the screws vs just having a latch. I can get bigger screws with wings if need be. I'm interested to see if it deforms over time from the heat
Man I would have put some spruce bows under you you want as much separation from the ground as possible. Also pack that snow around the tent. Will help tremendously with the draft and keep some of the heat in
Indeed, you are correct. I just didn't bother since it wasn't a very cold night. Got down to maybe 20 deg F is all. And was so hot in there with the stove going the breeze felt sorta good. 😂
I wouldn't. I would like to spend a little more on quality, that sweet spot where quality and budget meet. I just don't want to feel like I'm being scammed if I end up either paying too little or too much lol.
@@theoutdoorempireI think for a budget hot tent, that the Pomoly Leo 2 checks most of the boxes for me and looks like the most versatile all season tent. Polomy sent me a nice tent stove for free to review, maybe they could send you out the Leo? 🤔 If there is any winter camping left for you. I haven't found a review on this tent. *Or wait, it looks like lonewolf uses this tent
I think that you'll find that you're wrong about the silver coating making the tent hot in the summer. I say that for two reasons. I have tarps, beach umbrellas, patio table umbrellas, and EZ Up style 4 legged canopy shelters that DON'T have that reflective coating and they are much hotter in the sun than their coated counterparts. If an umbrella, for instance, isn't opaque, then you will feel the rays of the sun penetrating it and heating your body. The other reason it will be cooler is because it isn't really important that the silver be on the outer side if the fabric in order for it to reflect the suns rays away. It's just physics. I am curious about whether or not you could turn the tent inside out if you wanted to test that theory. Can you?
Excellent advice, thank you. Enough folks have suggested I'm wrong that I'll have to give it a go this summer. I thought about turning it inside out too. While it's not designed to do so, it could be done. You just wouldn't want to do it if raining because it would expose the vents up top, but that could be an interesting experiment too. Thanks for watching!
Umm hot tents aren't for summer 😂😂😂 use first off ,snow / sod skirts aren't necessary as you generally just pile snow around the bottom, i don't ever use an inner mesh inside the tent if you have a wood stove inside, 1 you don't have bugs in winter and 2 its frowned on if you get trapped by fire if your stove fails . The loops on the stakes are actually for looping through the tent loops for higher winds . Ohh and never use the peak loop to set up the tipi without the center pole if you run a stove , not to many reviewers mention this . As for as a spark arrestor, use a wad of brass wool stops sparks ,smoke passes just fine .
Video came out today Feb 8 2024, I'm the 13th viewer - Amazon price on tent is already $99? I guess the prices fluctuate more than I thought. Stove is dirt cheap at $88.
I placed the order less than a month ago on Jan 12, 2024. So ya, prices do fluctuate a lot. I also noticed they have a couple more colors now. I think there are some other options without the inner for $80-90.
Honestly, winter camping is not for me. I can enjoy a nice day hike in the woods in winter, but the effort it takes just to stay reasonably warm in tight quarters does not look like fun. The only way I'd consider winter camping is to be able to take a canvas tent out with a pulk sled or ATV. A roomy 9x8 canvas tent and a hot stove is the only way to winter camp. You should consider making such a video and give us the glamping side of winter camping.
Fair enough! I've got one or two videos like that from last year, but I wouldn't mind doing it again this winter before the snow melts. I'll probably give it a go here soon.
Daggum! Well you're not missing out at all on that stove (I wouldn't buy it again) and there are plenty of similar alternatives to that tent. Good luck.
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Do I need a 200 dollar tent and wood stove rn…no, but after watching this video do I want one?! Yes 😂😂😂
😂 Don't break the bank on my account! Haha
Hahahaha same here
Same here! And I'd never use it 😊
No one cares
Lol you think this now ,just wait
One problem is you should have push snow up against the openings in the bottom of tent that would help minimize the wind inside.
Yep. It wasn't too cold so I liked the air flow.
Why would you do that? Than you'd get water in the tent from heat inside.
@@kittycato2023 that’s the purpose of the lower flaps. It’s already open to the ground.
Need airflow
Yup
55 years ago my wife and I winter camped on a mountain top in Arizona and learned it was a lot different than camping in the desert:-)
I wish “real” hot or winter camping tents has a 16 inch “skirt” just above the tent stake holes so once the tent was up you could pull down the “skirt” and cover with snow, pieces of wood or dirt.. that would make a tent more air tight.
If you want “air” you can leave the door opening up a bit.
Good l😢uck
HINT my wife and I learned 55 years ago when camping in the Arizona desert with very hard clay rocky soil… we tried the plastic tent stakes and when those didn’t work we tried the metal tent stakes… both just squashed and bent as we pounded them into the hard ground.. we went to a building supply store and bought 12 inch pole barn nails which worked great. We used them for years.. cheap, tough and you can buy them up online to 16 inches long.
Good luck
Excellent tip, thanks for sharing!
@@alallington5732 exactly like me.
For "normal" hiking backpack camp, i bring of course the alu ones, but when with a motorised transport, i bring, like you, 25cm steel spikes.
They can enter even in the ground where the huge campers are parked, but damn, all of them are insanely heavy for a backpack.
or buy steel ones, not aluminum .
Rocks work and abundant in those areas
Couple of tips;
Don't completely cut a hole in the chimney panel but instead make an 8 slice pizza cut in it so that you can fit the chimney pipe snugly and then cut to the angle.
Try to angle the stove and the inner mesh closer when you are setting up so that you can reach from inside to feed the stove if you need to, later in the night.
As you are clearing your tent area, pile the snow in a wall around the tent on the windward side so that the tent edges are in a a depression, helps with the wind.
When setting up the stove, try adding only a single chimney pipe and making a small fire. allows you to warm one edge of the other pipes and makes putting things together a bit more easier.
A couple of sacrificial oven/heat mitts around the lower parts of the stove pipes provide a surprisingly good quality of live improvement.
Awesome tips, thanks for taking the time to share.
You’re not the only UA-camr to bring up the problem of US companies being priced out by Chinese companies in the budget gear category. Hopefully companies in the US will listen to everyone and keep in mind that not everyone can or wants to throw down $500+ on a tent and $300+ on a stove. And even some of us who can afford it don’t get out enough for it to be worth spending that sort of money.
Yeah, I think it's a problem. A first world problem for sure, but it would be nice to see some changes.
Get trump back..
@@Jason-ke2nj His tariffs are exactly what caused Harley Davidson to move production overseas... how would more of that help anything?
I am all for capitalism! Stop the tariffs and let all foreign countries sell their stuff here..
Competition makes US companies work harder and smarter to compete.. many foreign made products are well made, innovative and much cheaper than the stuff made in USA..
Let freedom reign and let capitalism work freely
$20 minimum wage to work at McDonalds and a population of wimps, combined with millions of people who are not from the USA on welfare. America will be a third worl country and al, you commenting will get to find out what tent life is like.
Flip outside tent... inside out in summer.. reflect sunlight.. the black inside help keep cool and dark.. an idea just popped in my head.. then you could use a cooler box to chill inside tent at night.. keep hot out, or cold out.. win winn
I'm 5 min in, too.. just ideas
I’ve learned wrapping motorcycle exhaust wrapping tape around the stove pipe at the jack helps seal and also keeps the pipe from directly touching the tent itself
Nice tip !
Nice to see someone do a review on some budget options, rather than the expensive stuff every time. I took your point about the spark arrester not being fully up to the job. Any idea what dimension the stove pipe is where it fits the arrester? Wondering if you could get a top with a finer gauze etc? thanks for the review.
Glad it was helpful! I don't know the dimensions off the top of my head, but I'd guess about 2-2.5 inches.
@@theoutdoorempireThanks
I’ve had one standing for 6 months last year and close that this year and it’s held up very well in numerous high wind storms as well as one good ice storm. The ice once melted and refrozen did cut into the door when I opened it without removing it. It made a small tear but I was able to patch it with gorilla tape had the dog tear it down once ripping a tie ooff down about 6 inches but was able to stitch it up and patch over and seal with gorilla tape. These type tents have plenty of room and hold up very well!
Very nice. Glad to hear you've had good luck with the quality even over long periods of time.
If I'm not mistaken, you're not supposed to have all that space left around the outside on the bottom, it should be touching the ground. Black is the best color for winter time, because black draws heat and that's what you want to keep the tent warmer in the winter.
Ya, it wasn't that cold and I appreciated the air flow so I didn't bother pushing snow back up against the tent or pulling it tighter to the ground.
because youre lazy or didnt know better
@@E.-dd8dmor it's for the exact reason he shared 🤷🏻
I have just purchased this tent from Amazon and it is mint for the conditions in the UK. I have changed the inner for a more suitable one that is lighter the the 1kg that is supplied with the tent. I now have a stove and tent that is under 5kg for bushcraft camps and pitched correctly its a pretty good setup! All the best from the UK 😉 its polycotton material which is about 60d plus which is quite good. 😉
Thanks for sharing!
I basically bought that stove, but I have a One Tigress tent (ironwall I think). Very cheap stove, it warps a bit, but it works and I love having a stove in the late autumn.
Iron would be kinda heavy
I use one of those ww2 polish lavvus. Very durable hot tents for 80 usd but no inner tent
Nice! Sounds like a good option.
I've complained about the pricing to get into hot tenting, so I think this is a great entry point. I may actually buy one. I haven't bothered to date because I didn't think it was worth the price to use once or twice a year. You earned a new sub
Thanks so much for the sub! Hope you get a chance to try this sometime.
I will never understand why the skirting is not longer at the bottom. That gap around the entire bottom is ridiculous
+ rodents, insects
Lol ya don't really need snow skirts on a hot tent, ya just pile snow around the gaps
@@mikemotorbike4283 insects generally aren't flying around in winter 😂
@@WeShootBack1776 It can be snow free and still be cold af .
@@leeinwis I've been hot tenting for a long time the little bit of gap on the bottom doesn't do anything. It's plenty warm inside the tent
Put the clamps on the next tube up at the bottom they act as a stop so it won't slide down into the next tube down past a certain point. Hope it helps I have that same stove it took me a good minute to figure that out
Ah, I see. I'll give that a try, thanks for the tip, makes sense.
You do a thorough review thank you .
I would be willing to say that other screws could be found for the stove and a "roll type" flue would be better.
You're right, better options do exist.
Yes guys he's right this tent built to hold in heat would be a bad summer choice. In case you needed that info
I'm going to say, unless you're fixing to build a cheap sauna dupe. Then this may be the ticket.
They should name it a hot tent, so we have a clue to go on.
So... why exactly does everyone cut a circle in the stove jack versus cutting an X and pushing the pipe through the X (without removing material)?
Six in one hand, half a dozen in the other. Both ways work and accomplish the same thing.
I doubt it very much that America will sell anything cheap like that Teepee tent because I think material and parts are expensive but one never knows what can happen in the future . Thank you for sharing this video and the information .
Ya, I think that is a big part of the problem. Even if we make the stuff in the US, the materials often come from abroad anyway so the cost to get them here goes up.
Why didn't you pile snow around the outside so it prevents the wind from blowing in from underneath?
I like that tent and stove. I bought a 4 to 6 person tent from Walmart for 160 and a small stove for $92. I had to get a big tent for my friend, my son, my dog and I. I don't buy from Amazon because they stole my $100. Said my gift card I purchased from Lowe's was not mine and they took it and said I am committing fraud. Big R did almost the same thing. After I purchased the card they say it's no longer creditable because they were changing owners. You got to watch out for these crooked scams they do. That's how the rich gets richer.. I totally stopped shopping with gift cards. Two bites was all I needed to learn that lesson.
Nice deal from Walmart! Thanks for sharing.
Exactly why I don’t use Amazon anymore.. plus I was hacked via Amazon while getting endless useless emails.
I use eBay only
Not bad pretty surprised overall 😅 as someone mentioned the silver reflective layer helps cool in summer and works minimally well!!✊️🔥✌️💚
I'll have to give it a proper try in summer to really find out. Cheers
@@theoutdoorempire that bug net is worth it alone!!
@@theoutdoorempire As someone who has used a Pomoly hot tent in the summer, with the right ventilation, you can control the temperature pretty well. You just gotta have that good circulation.
It's ALL in the presentation ... !
in the summer, could you do it inside out to reflect the heat?
you should wield some wingnuts on the screws on the stove. It'll make them easier to find when ya drop them, and make it easier to put together.
Good idea.
I bought that same stove. I haven't used it yet, but will be in a couple weeks and I can't wait. I agree the pipes suck. 2 of mine got bound together and won't come apart no matter what I do.
Ya those flue pipes are the worst thing about that stove.
@@theoutdoorempire I bought mine on eBay and they gave me over half my money back because of the pipes. With that said, I'm happy
use a propane torch and torch the eff out of the joint;it`ll burn the crap and wont break anything (use judgement!) its how I clean my stainless hardware (heat untill it stops smoking)
I just found your channel this evening. I appreciate and enjoy the review.
I wanna get into this, but one thing I can’t figure out is why most of these tents are completely sealed at the bottom yet are called hot tents? I can’t imagine that those little stoves are keeping you warm when the stove is in the inlet of the tent where as your sleeping area is in a pad surrounded by mesh? Are there any hot tents that are completely sealed?
One way to get around the stove placement is to get the metal flex pipe it ticks it over a lil bit but see I got the 5m tent so I’ve got no issues with space I have the tent plus stove plus table 2 chairs 2 50L cold boxes (esky) and a swag inside for sleeping in it’s great more glamping then camping haha but 5-10minute set up easy as
And also a lil hack around the stove start with wood through the day but wen going to bed throw in some fire logs or heat beads (bbq/smoker logs you get from the hardware store)some burn for 6-8hours and put out a lot of heat
Great tips, thanks!
I got on similar its a 4 person but mine came with the under skirt but no stove jack. Im also 6'2" and can stand in mine.
Thank you so much for telling us about the fiddly screws on the wood stove. I have dyspraxia and that gives me poor fine motor skills. I would not have been able to deal with the frustration.
Definitely don't need the sqeetter tent in winter . Gives you more room 4 sure . 👍👍 Good video man 👍
I am interested in trying hot tenting. This might be doable. Thanks for the fair review!
My pleasure!
I think this demonstration is extremely helpful. Materials in the tent can either reflect the heat away or contain it in
9:20 They seem to nest backwards. You want the next pipe to go over the one before so the smoke doesn't hit a lip and leak out.
Thanks for the comment. Actually, even my nicer stoves nest this way by design (upper pipe sits inside lower pipe). The reason being that it keeps creosote from leaking down and out through the cracks and running down the outside of the pipe making a mess and a fire hazard. Smoke escaping through those fittings hasn't been a problem I've experienced.
You're supposed to pile snow around the bottom to cut wind i think
I see I'm not the first to mention that lol.
Kindly disregard
No worries, thanks for watching!
Thanks for the vid. The innate steepness of the tent sides seems like a fire hazard, like it would touch the side of the stove pipe as the side slightly oscillates in the breeze.
Interesting point. That didn't seem to be a big risk, in my opinion.
Ive seen people push snow up on the sides as insulation and to fill the gaps
Great review. Covered everything. Very informative. Thanks
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for stopping by.
Great review but more importantly I need to know were did you get that camo hoddie with zipper and hand pouch. I desperately want it... 13:12
It is my favorite! It's the Cabela's Wooltimate 3/4 zip hoodie. Great for hunting and winter camping, sheds moisture, cuts the wind a bit, and super warm.
@@theoutdoorempire THANK YOU!!! I will be buying it
I have that stove and it is awesome so far…. My flue is different, an
Nd the pipe joints and the fire arrester has metal with holes…. There is another full time camping guy that uses that stove all the time…. That’s why I bought it especially the price!
The whole setup looks quite ok for the price, however about the stove pipes, even if you don''t see any smoke leaking, you shoul be more careful about carbon monoxhhyde which is most likely to harm you, is invisible and have no smell, i'm quite confident you can find some device for monitoring it. nice video btw
Well I definitely appreciate about how difficult it can be when it's cold to tighten clamps or something. I'm real comfortable if I've got a fire going and can warm up hands and even tools I'm working with. Definitely hurts to work bare handed in way below freezing.
Ya, that's one reason I don't love this stove.
I have just bought that stove through ebay , it's not for hot tenting though so glad about that as it is a pain taking it down & the chimney pipes are the most awkward to put away ( that's why i haven't put them all inslde each other , only done 3 of them ) but i love the stove so found a bigger bag to keep it all together & carry it .
Good call. And I'm glad you don't have to mess with the clunky flue pipe all the time.
Maybe a chimney with a bend or two in it to provide more room.
have bigger onetigriss hepta tipi tent, but will buy this one too.
Did you think about throwing snow on the bottom edge of the tent or did it not work because it doesn’t have the flaps of extra material between the stakes??? Have fun be safe.
I did think about it, but it wasn't very cold so I didn't bother. Plus it got so hot in there with the stove that I appreciated the draft.
The reflective is there for the reason you mentioned. You dont use hot tents in the summer 99 out of a hundred.
I like this guys way of reviewing. I’m wondering did you have any problems with the stove warping?
A little wavy, but didn't affect performance.
Maybe put the silver side on the outside in the summer? Just a thought. I like the stove, not really liking the tent.
I am wondering if you can continuesly burn wood throughout the night with those stove?
In my experience, no. I think the box is just too small to be able to hold enough wood, even hardwood, to burn low and slow all night. A few hours max.
why did you pull the ends of the tent so far that there was a large gap between the tent and the ground?
Because I was hot inside and wanted the air flow.
NGL that tent looks better than my Minipeak XL which cost almost four times the price with the inner (much less mesh) and pole which both had to be bought separately, I doubt it’s as light but it can’t be that much heavier. Yes I can use mine comfortably in winter without the stove, it’s more spacious and it’s much more flexible in set up but is it worth four times the price, not likely. Edit: Just checked at it’s pretty much the same weight as mine with the inner! 🤦🏻♂️
Im using one of these cheap tipi tents, cool and all but i am seriously considering pulling the trigger on a nortent lavvo 6 . Woke up to frogs ,squeals and monkeys in the tent just last week.
Whoa, sounds like an awesome place!
Not a bad review, it’s was pretty informative
I probably won’t be getting that tent or stove even though I am interested in a hot tent and a small easily portable stove.
I don’t do solo camping, at least not yet so would need a larger tent no matter what the season. Probably no larger than a 4 person tent because I like room to move around, I am slightly claustrophobic so a small tent like that will be no good for me.
Here is an idea for another review for you to think about, how about checking out those sleds that I see winter campers/hikers/hunters sometimes use to haul their gear with them…
They just pull it along behind them as they go….
Yes, I've been wanting/needing one of those myself. Thanks for the suggestion!
Well it's not a bad tent except it lacks snow skirts. Snow skirts. Are those extra long little pieces that you pile the snow on to keep the extra air from coming in your tent. That's the only thing this tent seems to be lacking.
Watching this reminds me of shrinkage economy but I digress. The stove especially. Swear its an inch at least smaller
Good video 👍
Nice video bud! Good content and assessment. I have a hot tent but I didnt pay 160 -thats a steal. Youre location looks familiar to me so maybe we will see each other around. Keep it up!
Thanks! Will do!
Yeah, I can see buying that tent for $80 for a little winter camping. I actually like the idea of the inner tent. Pass on the stove though.
I guess the inner material is reflective in order to keep out the sunlight and thus may actually be rather cool in summer.
Ya I saw that somewhere. Just not sure if I believe it. Seems like the reflective side should be facing outward in that case. But I might have to try it out in summer just to know.
Right! I got a tent with that reflective PU-coating, and in summer it is invaluable: It kept the tent cool up to 40 °F under ambient temperature.
The material is reflective. It can reflect heat away in the summer and contain it in the winter.
It's called a hot tent, what part of..
The tent is okay. I might like one that was a little bigger. The black exterior is designed to absorb heat from the sun. As far as the stove, I like the stove but not the stack. I would replace the stack with a roll and ring type.
Very good assessment.
Do you see the price now over 300$ Canadian
How is it holding up? Would still recommend it for the price?
I haven't used the tent again since this video, but if it's still as cheap as it was when I got it then it's a pretty good deal. I'd pass on the stove though, really not a fan of that chimney design. It's pretty janky.
I would just turn the tent inside out since it doesn't have any definition put the silver side out in the summertime
It would mess with the vents up top and might leak if it rains, but ya, that could work.
I camp in the forest exclusively so sunshine turning it into a sauna doesnt bother me; The inner is what let this thing down so i bought an inner from 3F UL gear (for the tribe tipi tent, aliexpress, actually fits) that transforms the whole deal but nospace for a stove, thus a summer proposition. Stock small inner for stove kit. Oh, I also added a Mceto bathtub footprint. Sure it adds up but nothing is lost, I still have a good footprint and inner besides the initial proposition. I tend to leave my tents and hammocks where they stand all summer long and just trek to whichever I feel like. Its really isolated out here...one day I wont be getting back home....lol
Great system and I love the idea of having a bunch of satellite camps set up all summer.
@@theoutdoorempire Its fun; the spots where I feel its best not to leave a tent raised I just put it back in its sleeve and tie it to a tree; it doesnt bother me to rebuild the tent as I`m a young retired dude and building the tent is part of the fun, almost like a ritual. Leaving the heavy pieces in situ means that much that you dont have to carry the next time! Just the sleeping bag and other whatnots (which can be heavy because I like my tech) I might leave cookwares pillows and anything that will not gather moisture/rot/mold
Those clamps are probably just meant to be on the smaller pipe to stop it from sliding into the bigger pipe.
Good idea, I'll try that.
Yes sir, there is no way you will crush the pipe by hand without it having a slot cut in it so likely it’s just a stopper 👌
What about the second night.
The hole, which is at an angle, needs to be elliptical to give you ½" - 1" clearance the whole distance around the pipe. The fabric shouldn't touch the chimney, which is +250° hot. That's a user error, and not the tent's fault!
My nickname is a User Error. 😂 Great advice, thanks for sharing!
@theoutdoorempire lol Same here and glad to help. My house wood stove chimney was a long, painful learning curve. I had to switch my saw halfway through when I started to smell burning shingles!!
Im not big on the lack of floor and the inability of the tent walls to make it straight to the ground. Sucks when animals can dig their way inside
Was the bed area enclosed completely??
I would not stay in a tent not sealed in warmer weather, I don't share my bed with the sneaky snake's.😬
Yes! That little inner tent does zip closed to keep bugs and vermin out.
@@theoutdoorempire thank you
The stove seems nice, I personally don't mind the screws vs just having a latch. I can get bigger screws with wings if need be. I'm interested to see if it deforms over time from the heat
Definitely a possibility.
@@theoutdoorempireare you planning to do a "long term usage" report on it?
@@AudiaciousLife Not sure yet, maybe. I'll see how much I actually end up using it and decide.
Great information thanks..
Glad it was helpful!
No snow skirt
I didn't bother, wasn't that cold.
Man I would have put some spruce bows under you you want as much separation from the ground as possible. Also pack that snow around the tent. Will help tremendously with the draft and keep some of the heat in
Both great ideas. It wasn't very cold that night so I didn't bother. And no spruce where I was either.
Your supposed to pack snow around the base of the tent, on the flap
Indeed, you are correct. I just didn't bother since it wasn't a very cold night. Got down to maybe 20 deg F is all. And was so hot in there with the stove going the breeze felt sorta good. 😂
I wouldn't. I would like to spend a little more on quality, that sweet spot where quality and budget meet. I just don't want to feel like I'm being scammed if I end up either paying too little or too much lol.
I hear ya there.
@@theoutdoorempireI think for a budget hot tent, that the Pomoly Leo 2 checks most of the boxes for me and looks like the most versatile all season tent. Polomy sent me a nice tent stove for free to review, maybe they could send you out the Leo? 🤔 If there is any winter camping left for you. I haven't found a review on this tent. *Or wait, it looks like lonewolf uses this tent
No floor???
I think that you'll find that you're wrong about the silver coating making the tent hot in the summer. I say that for two reasons. I have tarps, beach umbrellas, patio table umbrellas, and EZ Up style 4 legged canopy shelters that DON'T have that reflective coating and they are much hotter in the sun than their coated counterparts. If an umbrella, for instance, isn't opaque, then you will feel the rays of the sun penetrating it and heating your body. The other reason it will be cooler is because it isn't really important that the silver be on the outer side if the fabric in order for it to reflect the suns rays away. It's just physics. I am curious about whether or not you could turn the tent inside out if you wanted to test that theory. Can you?
Excellent advice, thank you. Enough folks have suggested I'm wrong that I'll have to give it a go this summer. I thought about turning it inside out too. While it's not designed to do so, it could be done. You just wouldn't want to do it if raining because it would expose the vents up top, but that could be an interesting experiment too. Thanks for watching!
This tent would be good if it were reversible, shiny side out for summer, black side out for winter.
I might just try it like that anyway.
So. Whats yrr take in this tent and stove 8 months later? 10/24/24
I wouldn't buy that stove again, too janky. But the tent's not bad for the price.
@@theoutdoorempire savvy!
Umm hot tents aren't for summer 😂😂😂 use first off ,snow / sod skirts aren't necessary as you generally just pile snow around the bottom, i don't ever use an inner mesh inside the tent if you have a wood stove inside, 1 you don't have bugs in winter and 2 its frowned on if you get trapped by fire if your stove fails . The loops on the stakes are actually for looping through the tent loops for higher winds . Ohh and never use the peak loop to set up the tipi without the center pole if you run a stove , not to many reviewers mention this . As for as a spark arrestor, use a wad of brass wool stops sparks ,smoke passes just fine .
Um.......why not cover edges with snow to eliminate the gap? Top five on tent pitch set-up list......
It wasn't that cold so I didn't bother. Cheers.
Video came out today Feb 8 2024, I'm the 13th viewer - Amazon price on tent is already $99? I guess the prices fluctuate more than I thought. Stove is dirt cheap at $88.
I placed the order less than a month ago on Jan 12, 2024. So ya, prices do fluctuate a lot. I also noticed they have a couple more colors now. I think there are some other options without the inner for $80-90.
Nice video. 💯
Glad you liked it!
The tent and stove are made for winter. So, if you're hiking in, you bring it in on a sled.
That sounds fun.
The silver lining is for interior lighting. Just a candle going and you can see good enough to find things in the dark.
Ys it did help with light when I hung my little LED light up top.
Actually the silver blocks the sun. And can cool inside air .
So I'm told. I'll give it a whirl.
Get you some elbows for stove pipe and move that heater back from sleep area a little bit
Just put the black to the outside in the summer. Then it will reflect the heat away 🤷♂️
Might have to try that.
I meant black to the inside 😂🤣😂🤣 but I think you got it even with the typo. 😁
Buy a Buddy heater and get a propane tank connecter put on it.
I've had a bad experience with a Buddy heater before. Don't trust em.
I’m pretty sure it’s called a hot tent to use in the winter not summer 😂. Maybe that’s why it’s made with reflective.
Turns out the silver inside is supposed to be for the summer. And it's only a hot tent when a stove is inside. I'd like it to work all year-round.
Uhhhh why would you use a hot tent in the summer?
Honestly, winter camping is not for me. I can enjoy a nice day hike in the woods in winter, but the effort it takes just to stay reasonably warm in tight quarters does not look like fun. The only way I'd consider winter camping is to be able to take a canvas tent out with a pulk sled or ATV. A roomy 9x8 canvas tent and a hot stove is the only way to winter camp. You should consider making such a video and give us the glamping side of winter camping.
Fair enough! I've got one or two videos like that from last year, but I wouldn't mind doing it again this winter before the snow melts. I'll probably give it a go here soon.
@@theoutdoorempire My bad! I only started watching your channel late last summer and somehow I missed those videos. You're off the hook! 🤐
It’s basically a rocket stove but you could make a mini Russian brick stove in there or maybe even rocks around the campsite
That sounds fun.
Holiday INN Express, FREE Breakfast, hot water, shower, bed, clean sheets… DUDE ? 😂😂
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Vevor not making the tiny stove anymore. I think they have delusions of Pomoly at triple-digit price points.
Wow, really!? I just bought this a month ago.
Just shy of £270 for them both in the uk of amazon, good review and look decent but no thankyou 😊
Daggum! Well you're not missing out at all on that stove (I wouldn't buy it again) and there are plenty of similar alternatives to that tent. Good luck.
Change the stove nuts to threaded rods with wingnuts.
Good idea.
The tent alone is $211 Canadian rn… guess it went up in price :(