NUX MG-30 Review/ Comparison With The Line 6 HX Stomp!
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- First, I want to note that for some reason, the unit did not record the loop section of the solo.
For that reason, I had to re-record the loop based on the solo so I apologize for any timing mistakes...
I hope you enjoy this video, I tried to do stuff differently this time and I hope you enjoy it!
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00:00 Intro Playing
01:44 Intro
02:11 What I'm Going To Cover
02:30 Storytime!!
03:41 Let's Dive Into it!
08:44 IMPORTANT (No one told you this)
09:50 Can it compare to the Stomp?
11:02 Importance of Community!
11:28 NUX, Take notes!
12:01 Summary
12:39 THE END!
Thank you Krenar, we come here to listen. ^___^
Hey there, that's the spirit!! I'm excited to see what you come up with next, you guys got a good thing going with the MG30! Cheers and thank you for checking out the video!
NUX: If it had an XLR out, I would 100% get it. It is the one thing I need that is not in the POD GO for me to get it as a backup rig for my Helix Floor. I agree with the video that drum machine is unnecessary. I would prefer being able to have multiple delays, etc. Disagree with the snapshots comment. Snapshots is the reason I would not go back to an analog rig.
@@Goldensword18 hey bud, I'm pretty sure everything you mentioned would have to bring the price up, I would say that these things would also require new software and new hardware.. perhaps, if sales numbers for the MG30 are favorable, we might see a better flagship model with a more flexible signal chain, more switches, more effects and an advanced switching mode at a higher price point.. I guess we would have to wait and see but for now, at this pricepoint, I don't see any competition for this unit. Cheers!
So sad to know that can only use one delay and one reverb in one time QAQ
How are the box ac 15 and 30 amp sounds? I do alot of worship music and normally my go to sounds
Great work Krenar! Very informative and well presented. Thanks for sharing this with us.
Hey buddy! Thank you so much for the kind words, I appreciate it!
Came here expecting not much. Leaving a subscriber. Respect. Mine arrives 21 April. The limitations you mention are not an issue for me. I also have a Stomp but just don't need what it offers. Will probably keep though just in case. Best Regards! If Zoom comes here..listen to this guy and get a support infrastructure/community for the G11!!!!
thank you so much, I really really appreciate it! Enjoy your MG30, cheers and stay safe!
SUPER helpful, mate!
I feel like it helped me to really know what to expect from this ‘new kid on the block’. So I feel like buying this thing is definitely the right move for me.
And I was just about to burn $400 just on only 3 pedals. This is way better. 👍👍
I loved the video! It was nice seeing the comparison and you are a great player, I'm here from Facebook I subscribed keep it up!
I appreciate the kind words man, cheers!
@@KrenarCilkuGuitar My pleasure man!
Great Video... I learned that I do not know much. Really enjoyed the video.
Hey Bill, pleasure seeing you here, thank you for the kind words, hope you're doing well, cheers!
Great and honest review thanks. I will say I’m not a fuzz guy and as a home player I would like more drums . But our differences make life interesting. I can see why you are going for the Stomp and you definitely should but for me the MG30 will suit me. I look forward to more videos on this and other things . Cheers 😀👍👍
hey there, hope you're doing well! thanks for the comment! The drums are definitely a cool practice tool! I'm actually sticking with the MG30 since it's way more affordable and sounds really good even though it's much more limiting than the Stomp. I think the tones you can get out of this justify for it not being as flexible. If I'm honest with myself, I never use a lot of effects, most of my presets consist of an amp model, overdrive pedal and reverb so for now, the Nux will suffice. Cheers man, thanks for hanging out!
Awesome video, thanks man!
Glad you liked it!
Thanks ‼️ Great share on your thoughts 🤘🏾👍👍 #staysafe❤️
Cheers!
Are the factory patches already volume levelled? How do you actually level the patches?
Great video! Thanks a lot
Thanks man, cheers!
Thanks for cutting through the hype on this unit. Not to blame the other UA-camrs making semi-promotional videos, they definitely have their place, but a video as well thought out as this from an end user is pure gold. I'm looking at getting the MG-30 as much for the bass amps as for the guitar stuff. Thank you!
Hey man! Thank you so much man, I appreciate it! I believe that the product delivered to it's hype, I think it's a very nice product that I'll actually keep! I also understand the guys that got this directly from the company, they had to leave a good impression and they were lucky because there isn't much to criticize about this. With that being said, I feel like a reviewer should point out the most important things no matter if they are good or bad. This way, the consumers know what they're getting and the company knows what they should work on.. Sorry for the lengthy response, thank you for your time, cheers!
I think they addressed all the concerns fairly well. Specially with the double effects and the scene setting.
I know! I’m sick of every “review” being a thinly-veiled promotion!!
Great review, Krenar! Was expecting to see that gorgeous mountain on the thumbnail, though, ha ha! Could you please do a video with it? :)
Hey man, thank you so much! Hahah, for sure, a gear review video in the mountains would be epic! Cheers bud!
Great job!
Thanks for checking out my video man, cheers!
I'm shopping for a backup for my AxeFXIII for fly-gigs. I've been watching a lot of these videos trying to decide between the two. I appreciate your honesty and directness. No evidence of 'waffle' like some other channels. Kudos.
You got it man! What did you decide to get? Cheers!
Thanks.
Maybe hx is not comparable with mg 30. But how about pod go? I'm curious about it.
Thumbs up for the honest and in depth review! No one has been talking about the bad side of MG30 so far so kudos to that! I think MG30 is more for players who just want plug and play with minimal setup while HX is targeted towards more for intermediate advanced players. HX is a unit that can actually grow with you and contains amazing flexibility! As a stand alone unit I'll go with NuX, but HX just has limitless potential! Both are great!!!
Thank you for the kind words, we're definitely living in a golden era for gear, almost everything sounds good nowadays, cheers!
I think this point in the video is a bit exaggerated. The HX Stomp is definitely not a device with limitless potential. To the contrary. With its dingle DSP and therefore small block limit many of the things you theoretically _could_ do will not work in practice. And with all this limits it does cost nearly two times as much as the NUX MG30.... bugger I could buy two NUX MG30 and create two chains with them for that price ^^
OR, for Intermediate/Advanced players "of a certain age" who don't want to squint to read a display :) And who are over all the "stuff" and just want good tones. I have a G11 because it's so easy to use and soo easy to read/.see. Best Regards!
@@aptfx More than twice the price here in Australia.
@@hanovergreen4091 Damn! I'm half blind so I guess no HX Stomp for me.. not even with my huge glasses lol
What a refreshing change to hear some clean playing on these modellers. Almost every demo has ridiculous distortion that tells you nothing about the subtlety (or otherwise) of the product. Thank you.
Cheers! Thanks for the kind words!
you should check out John Nathan Cordy's channel - he plays a lot of cleans on various modelers
I mean you're wrong about dynamics and distortion but ok
Hi, thanks for this review.
I saw somewhere that there's a parallel mode, to enable the multiple use of mod effects, you should check that.
Not only MOD. Also parallel DLY and Reverb. You can also switch the MOD to another EFX and have parallel distortion… interesting for bass (parallel clean distorted)
Realistic, fair, honest. Well done
thanks buddy, I appreciate it! cheers!
could this be used with the HX effects and placed in the centre of the signal chain... I could always disable the cab on this and use the HX one instead
Hey bud, definitely! That would be a great combination! Cheers!
Are the line-outs balanced, so you could use TRS to XLR cables direct to FoH? I am currently able to do this with my Headrush Gigboard, so this would be very useful to be able to go directly to the mixer, as we use IEMs.
Hey buddy, as far as I'm aware the outputs are not balanced but I might be wrong. Sorry I couldn't help you out there, cheers!
I think they would have to be. Considering it's an entire rig modeller in itself, any patches that include amp modelling and an IR would sound pretty terrible running through a guitar amp, the only practical way to run them would directly into a PA.
Where do the XLRs go? I use XLR to TRS! I plug the TRS end(s) into the line input(s) of the mixer that then goes to two 500W FRFR powered PA speakers.
My NUX Solid Studio IR loader and Humboldt Simplifier have XLR outs, but my GFI Cabzeus Stereo only has TRS outs (that one I go TRS-to-TRS).
You can now use two types of effects the same time on the mg30 and there is a new fuzz
They listened!
Rad brother!! Sick PRS! Need one! Hahaha. Love your playing.
It is amazing time to be a guitarist.
hahahaha, thanks man, I appreciate it! You should have gotten the one on sale.. sorry if I opened up the wound.. lmao cheers man!
@@KrenarCilkuGuitar I slept on it and I lost! Hahahahaha
@@KrenarCilkuGuitar no that was the 245 on guitar center! Yeah I remember that! Haah. As soon as I hit order it said item no longer in stock and I was soooooooo disappointed 😔 ha
Sorry about the mental commenting here 😅, but I am still watching and 3/4s through im really wanting one. Dang.
Very cool video Krenar!
You got the attention of NUX so mission success!
I hope Gretsch sees my new song 🎵
Thanks Andy! I just checked your video and it's cool as hell! Awesome stuff, cheers!
@@KrenarCilkuGuitar thanks bro! Good to see you in MHH chat as well!
We definitely have to collab on track one day
No need for the adapter. Just plug into a powerbank and special cable. A lot less noise with single coils! 🥳
Good video Krenar. I’m sure this will get loads of views as these multi effects are so popular (Ok, old dudes like me prefer just an amp and 1 or 2 stomp boxes, but hey😁). I smiled during your intro..... I can really picture you with a jazz guitar, pulling out those mellow tones.
Hahahahah thanks Paul, I appreciate that a lot, thanks for stopping by and watching my video! Now you really got me itching bad time for a jazzbox! Cheers man! 😂
For those who play in live settings, these two serve different purposes. The NUX MG-30 is a all-in-one, easy to carry, plug & Play solution. The HX Stomp is better as an addition to an existing rig. For studio and bedroom warriors you may prefer the "extra sound" you get from Line 6, even if you pay more and get not expression pedal.
Excellent video! Would you choose the NUX over the Pod Go?
Hey man, thank you!
Considering that they almost have the same feature set, I would go for the NUX as it sounds really good (better in my opinion but that's subjective). The NUX is also cheaper than the POD GO. I would say, grab a piece of paper, write the pros and cons for both and decide. Cheers and stay safe!
that is cool... how many effects can be used at one time? does it have parallel routing?
Hey bud, you can use 6 effects at the same time (one from every category) and yes, it has parallel routing! Cheers!
And you can switch EFX to MOD and MOD to EFX and CMP between CMP and EFX. So you could also stack up to 3 EFX or 2 MOD with a CMP or EFX. The MOD/EFX Block can be in a parallel chain (also DLY and RVB)
I am looking at the MG30 because to get an HX Stomp I'd have to sell an amp and several pedals.
The HX Stomp seems complicated. I don't have any experience with advanced modellers. Always use an amp if possible, or a preamp pedal into an IR loader or an amp+cab sim device like the Humboldt Simplifier at the end of my regular pedalboard.
I had a NUX Cerberus and hated the drives and the mods could not be re-routed. It also had a problem with presets -you lost Tap Tempo! You had to go into "Edit" mode.
Sold it.
DSP Fuzzface is heresy so that's not a deal breaker lol ;)
This is very interesting. I think from what you explained that the Nux is a more limited piece of kit and is more comparable to the Pod go. It’s good but not as versatile and with lots to prove yet with software support. Nux is a cool company in terms of the product they put out. Well done and thank you for putting the time in to make this video 😊
Thank you for your time as always buddy, I appreciate it, cheers!
They both are limited in different ways. The Stomp with its single DSP just can't handle that many blocks. This means you can create chains in the MG30 that cannot be done in the Stomp. On the other side: The MG30 has some restrictions regarding multiple usage of some effects. The only block that you can use two times is the drive block. You cannot use e.g two different Amps, IRs, gates, delays... there is though the model of their NUX duotime in... which is two delays in one block. With the quite low block limit in the Stomp, there isn't much chance to use multiple blocks of the same kind too. Its different trade offs, but essentially similar limited.
@@aptfx yes that’s what Keenan said ☺️
@@MrRafaztar Well... everybody seemed to get it different... that the HX Stomp is a "limitless" expandable experience where the MG30 is quite limited... which is actually not really true. The Stomp is two times the price of MG30 and still quite limited
@@aptfx I am coming from a place that I own the stomp and understand it’s limitations but don’t know the Nux. The advantage of the stomp is how well it integrates in pedal boards making it more of a “limitless” device
finally someone mentions what I suspected and couldn't confirm in the manual. Effects types are locked in to their respective block, which is a major let down for me and likely makes this a pass. My nearly ten year old HD500X and Zoom MS-100BT can do any effect you want anywhere you want. I guess the MG-30 is just not for me, which is a shame since I liked that they offer something other than an Ampeg bass amp like every other modeler on the planet outside of Zoom. Thanks for sharing!
I guess they might be leaving room to improve with a bigger (more expensive) unit. The sounds you can get out of this are awesome! I hope they take these functionality and routing aspects into consideration with the next MG unit.
You can move the effects blocks on the MG30.
I was going to get nux mg 300 but no one had one in stock, then I discovered the granular delay on the Stomp, credit card hammered
The stomp is heaps of fun buddy, enjoy it! Cheers!
how you compare it to an amplitube or another pc simulator? would it be an improvment or a waste of money? for a home use
Hey Gonzalo! I have Amplitube 5 Max and it's an amazing piece of software. If you have that, I think your good to go for home use. If you're looking for hardware to take out and gig with, the HX Stomp is a very good contender. I jope this helps, cheers!
@@KrenarCilkuGuitar great!!! Dont have to spend money !!!! Thanks you!!!
So, you can't change the presets order with the same unit for playing live? Foot switch isn't bad but doesn't gets with me at all. Damn...I've been watching reviews but no one talks about it and I appreciate you did! I was hyped for getting this but the preset stuff was the final call so thank you for your honesty! Greetings!
Hey buddy, with the MG-30 alone, you can use the 2 footswitches from the left to scroll through presets and you can assign the CTRL footswitch to switch an effect on and off or you can use it as a tap tempo for your time-based effects. Cheers!
@@KrenarCilkuGuitar I can't give a heart to this comment but thank you very much for answering!
Waiting for my NUX in the post...
A year later, and 3rd update?
And I read in ur comments they have a great Facebook page
Including staff at hand
Did they add more fuss sounds that u wanted in those updates?
Either way, it's like NUX have been listening to u mate lol
Great stuff...
Only thing u could have maybe added...
& I could be wrong here
But the NUX seems like a few choices in its design where aimed more at home and studio users more than live users?
Is the line 6 the same?
I know I've ordered mine now, but I'm not against buying a 2nd unit by say line 6 and seeing if I can connect them together lol
I am already planning on s bunch of pedals to help solve the 1 box at a time issue u mentioned
But a line 6 might be a better choice
Use the send return on the nux or vice versa
I'm a vast user btw
Haven't owned hardware guitar gear in Maybe 15 years now
Other than an amp or 2 with some cheapo pedals lol
Anyway nice review
It's nice to watch 1 that's doesn't sorta just so the same as all the rest tell us lol
I'm at work 12 hour shifts for the next 4 days...
My nux arrives tomorrow
Can't use it for 4 days 😭
But then I got 4 days if so boom...
Can't wait lol
Nux has a Facebook group that shares presets and nux team is active there... Still waiting for get 3.1 for hx stomp...
Hey there, I sent a request to join the group but my request hasn:t been accepted yet.. I'm intrigued to see what they'll bring with the update.. cheers!
Many good points. One thing though: The HX Stomp has only 6 Blocks - one of them is Amp&Cab. This leaves 5 for delay, drive, gate, mod, reverb, compressor and EQ. The result: it is similar restricted as the stomp in this case, just with different trade offs.
You are absolutely right about the community. One part of that equation is... we! 😉
Just to correct this: Stomp got 8 Blocks with firmware 3.0. But: Amp&IR is two blocks and some effects are so expensive that you cannot fill all 8 blocks
thanks man! yes, without us, there wouldn't be any products! Line6 has updated the software on the HX Stomp and they added 2 more blocks to it, but of course, it still has the same DSP power.
I would love to be a part of the Helix family but knowing that I can have great tones and a good product for less money, I can't justify myself to purchase the stomp, I'm thankful for my buddy that let me borrow his stomp and I had the chance to compare them side by side. cheers man, thanks for hanging out!
Very true, if you need more power it means digging deep into your pockets and buying it's big brother which has two processors. Of course we'd all like a four processor model for the price of a stomp
@@MarkRigler Thats what many don't get when new budget models come out. I don't know how often I did hear "but Kemper, Helix (full) or Fractal is still better". The Stomp is near the budget modellers like Ampero, GE200 and now MG30. There still is a range between them: Stomp is significantly more expensive than GE200 or MG30 and this does not in all things converts into value. There are a lot of good devices now in this price range.
@@MarkRigler absolutely. The Stomp already is nearly double the price of the MG30. I think the bespoken flexibility of the chain isn't really a thing with the 1 dsp Stomp. You get alot more Amps and Effects though. I do use TH-U on iOS to get a huge amount of Amps and Effects and the MG30 is a really good low latency audio interface to use with that thing. This even makes extensive multi amp chains possible.
I put a friedman pedal threw the send&return sounds 100% better. As i found all the distortion were unusable. And the noice gate no good as well. But can make it work. Good video
So you mean that we can not use ST CHORUS with PHASER or other multiple modulation ?
Hey Adhiraj, unfortunately no...
@@KrenarCilkuGuitar thanks man, this video really helped me alot.
Nux completely completely extinguishes and destroys any line 6 gear when it comes to attention to detail with tone... The amp modeling and effects sound unbelievable... Line 6 is made better and maybe it has more options I'll give you that .. but sound wise no comparison not even in the same ballpark nux is unbelievable people.. if you want to make it your rig IDK more options may be better but if u want tone don't get line 6
We're definitely living in a golden era for guitar gear bud, cheers!
You can compare things that are different/better/worse, with the outcome being "one is better than the other one".
Worth to mention that the MG-30 might not have the snapshots on the HX but it has the scenes
Yes, I believe they added them with an update. Big thumbs up for that!
Thanks man! Does it have metronome? Have a nice day!!!
Hey there, it does have a metronome and a drum machine. Cheers!
Pershendetje Krenar,a e sugjeron kete per bass apo ndonje tjeter
I wish the Helix and Nux both released an amp modelling/sim platform only (like HX Effects, but HX amps) so they would focus more on the amp models and cabinets then we'll just hook up our favorite pedals. That would be cool to have and these 2 companies are great at amp modeling at their respective price points
Besides we, well I personally aim to have a lighter rig
IKR. Only Mooer did that with their Preamp Live. It sounds very good and even can copy any amp with 4 cable method like kemper or axe. It is discontinued and very faulty unit though, breaks often and Mooer don't provide service. Shame
Nux Amp Academy
The just came out with the Amp Academy. Nux has been listening to their customers 🤘🏾
Get one of the zoom multistomp together with the MG30 and a couple of awesome budget ODs. Then compare.
And if you think that Zoom multistomp are useless on gigs because of the limited footswitches. Do this mod.
ua-cam.com/video/JZitlmI37yA/v-deo.html
Hey buddy, I'll see if I can get my hands on one of those, cheers!
@@KrenarCilkuGuitar would be very interesting! Thanks mate! Will be waiting for it.
@@KrenarCilkuGuitar btw. MG30 just got an update a couple of days ago. You can now replace OD with Mod and have 2 mods at the same time.
Hi great video. Was wondering where you see the Boss GT series fitting in. Thanks.
Hey there, I haven't played any of the GT Series amp modellers but I am a big fan of the Boss Nextone amps. The GT1000 Core looks like a decent candidate to check out especially if you're looking for a versatile solution. I think the routings and signal chains can get as complicated as you want with that one. Cheers!
@@KrenarCilkuGuitar Yeah good point about the routing. Will check out the ones you mentioned as well. Thanks!
Compare with joyo gem box III
This or boss gt1 or zoom g5n?
hey man, unfortunately, I haven't played either of them but I've heard the boss gt1 is a pretty good sounding unit for it's price although the zoom g5n seems to have more features. Nowadays everything sounds great, you just have to find your own thing. Sorry for my uneducated response, cheers!
My dude-never change! You came at this with everything I wanted to hear someone’s opinion on (such as how the amp models compare) where most reviewers will just not bother, or say like, ‘oh all of them just sound good these days so… that’s all I can say about that…’
Thanks!
hello everyone, total 5 footswitches (including 2 external). My preference is stompbox mode. Can this be done with nux mg30?
1 delay
1 boost (eq or comp)
1 chorus
1 overdrive/distortion
1 reverb
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5
hey buddy, unfortunately, at the moment that is not possible. You can switch 3 effects on or of and 2 footswitches are dedicated for scrolling through the presets. cheers!
No stomp box mode but a scene mode. You can have 3 scenes per preset with differently toggled pedals. You switch through them with on knob in cycle
@@aptfx bless nux for the firmware update. scene mode is enough for my stompbox mode needs...cheers
vs headrush mx5?
If I can get my hands on one, sure, cheers buddy!
Another advantage for HX is that the effects loop is stereo.
yup, true! The HX Stomp overall has more features that are pretty useful, cheers!
Good objective video. Your playing was supurb.
Thanks for stopping by man, I appreciate it!
It would be a great upgrade i suppose from my cheap gt1! Hahah
For sure man, and it doesn't cost a lot more than the gt1, I sold my entire board to get a stomp and it wouldn't have covered it. I'm stoked that this thing came up at that time... The HX Stomp is wonderful but for the price, this thing will suffice, for sure!
Damn i just bought the nux but bro the line 6 is literally twice the price thou
Double the price too.
11:52 😂😂
Lmaoo😂😂
:D :D :D True and I hate fuzz.
The amp models on the mg 30 are way to gainy, most you can't go above 3 with the gain and it's way to much.
The new 5150 amp sounds like a crapped out fuzz pedal
the HX Stomp is 2x the price !
Nice intro playing Krenar, but this type of gear is not for me.
Thanks Graeme! Ah, I suspect you love your tube amps and I can't blame you, I've seen your name pop up at the fantastic Paul Straffords' channel and his gear and playing is just immaculate. I would have to agree with you, I wish I could have a Princeton by my side turned to it's sweetspot with some lush reverb but I am a student and I can't afford, nor can I turn up a Princeton lol
I really appreciate you taking your time to watch my video man, it means a lot! cheers!
@@KrenarCilkuGuitar I'm not knocking budget gear. I'm just an old fart with a brain injury who likes things simple. I do have a tube amp, but not an expensive one (Laney Lionheart L5 head & 12"cab) You are correct about Paul, he is a fantastic player.
Gods last name is not damn. Listen to your last video.