I agree but I've also find myself switching up with doing the test bc I'm having problems passing some of them on gold. It's crazy bc in gt sport I didn't have near the problem
I haven't got around to buying a PS5 yet, but now I've retired. I'm thinking of getting one to keep my brain active. Based on my experience of earlier GT games, there's nothing wrong with using 3rd person whilst you're getting used to the cars/tracks, and then switching to cockpit to really try out the driver experience. But yes, use whichever camera you are happy with.
hood view is the best, but it is at times confusing when some hood camera sits more to the roof and some more to the front. I personally prefer it to be placed just in front of the roof. The only problem is that there is no mirror when you have to race others (AI or people).
Best camera settings for me: Cockpit View Height: 5 Depth: -5 Wobbling Type 2. Chase View Camera Sensitivity 1; Chase View Rotation Axis Offset: 0; Chase View Type: Near
I agree completely with you on the views, that's why I never use third, but bonnet view. Only thing chase is good for is seeing when I've completely passed cars
Third person because of the wider field of view. When nasty drivers are trying to ram me, I can usually see them setting up and try to avoid them. When I watch motorsports we view the event, usually not from the in car camera. When I'm watching, I'm learning.
Cockpit is much more challenging than driving from the roof, or front bumper. Who knew?! I love sitting in those amazing reproductions of the actual cockpit in every car. Back in the Need For Speed days, I could only dream of such realism.
You should try to make a comparison test between each. Like how much the steering and brakes and handling changes from view to view. I bet it's at least 20% gain on the bumper cam lol
I bought a vr2 a few weeks ago. I have just one word for it.. WOW..! It completely changed the game, it unlocked the full potential of the game imo…WOW.!!
First person camera to me to race normal, and 3rd person for drift. By the way, I didn't see no one talking but they made change in the roullette, my first ticket was a 4 star one... And i could won a Super Formula, Lambo Veneno, Tomahawk and the Aston Martin Vulcan, I won the Super formula. Way much better than the 5k credits.
I use the “bumper” view with the mirror, but it’s not on the bumper. It’s higher up and further back, which you can tell when you’re right behind someone. I would guess it’s either supposed to be at the bottom of the windscreen or kind of two thirds of the way up the bonnet. I feel it gives the best view of the road, the rear view mirror is essential and the MFD is centred on the screen, which makes it much easier to change brake balance/traction control/fuel mapping without taking your attention away from the road. If you compare it to bumper cam on other sims/games you’ll notice the difference in position of the camera.
Agreed, cockpit view is the simulation view. Any other view just becomes unrealistic. next iteration needs option to change the FOV, seat adjustments, pitch and triple monitor support and more fine grain FFB options - this is one of the main reason i prefer ACC and iRacing on the PC even though the graphics doesn’t look as easy on the eye as GT7. even though i’m a PC guy, i do enjoy a occasional GT7 session. imagine this gets ported to the PC….
It all depends for me. If i want to appreciate my car designs i dont do it during gameplay, but instead i appreciate them through watching race replays. If i want to be competitive especially online, then ill use bumper cam. If i want to showcase or feel immersed in a real driving experience then ill use cockpit. Summary: appreciate car designs i watch TV style replay. Online/competitive driving i use bumper. Offline/casual showcase i use cockpit.
From.the offset with gtsport I've been using bumper cam with mirror . Personally want all that view coming at me. Cockpit is too restrictive and chase cam is too unrealistic. Even if I found myself more competitive in chase I could never use it as its just too "video game" as opposed to "sim racing game". Interestingly Tidgney (some of you may know was on for 3rd place in gtsport world champs until he got punted off track). He did a video testing all the different views. To his surprise he found bumper cam with mirror fastest, (a view he was not using at the gtsport world championships)
I use the cockpit for realism, but the roof calm view is the easiest/most advantageous to drive from. I have never been able to drive any game third person....kudos to you if you can. Zero realism though. Same with bumper cam.
I feel that you're very knowledgeable about gt7 and i need some advise. I'm having trouble with the licenses test. So what setting or camera do you recommend? Thanks
Kireth, you can adjust the up, down back and forth in psvr. However it has to be done in game which is annoying. Something’s they put me to close the wheels and I adjust to move back
I use roof/hood because i'm fastest in it (like most use bumper/hood because they are faster with it) , but in my opinion everyone should be forced to cockpit view in sport mode...
I don't like the "bonnet"view because the HUD. Speed and gears get lost in the car. They need to put some thicker border strokes on the white number/lettering so it doesn't blend in
I wouldn't put cockpit view and VR in the same category. Even though they're ostensibly the same, the amount of extra visibility from having head tracking in VR makes it SO much better than its flat screen equivalent. Try doing half a race in VR then take it off and finish on TV - it's HIDEOUS!! 😂
Chase (third person), for me the best. It's not a question of ease, it's an almost philosophical reflection. In real life a pilot "sees" all the conditions of the vehicle using more than his eyes, he uses his body and all the sensations reverberated in him. When we watch a driver driving the car we tend to think that from his point of view it all boils down to what he can see while sitting in the cockpit, but we also tend to forget that he doesn't just see with his eyes. In the case of games, when we play a simulator we ourselves are sitting on a couch or chair and we do not receive IN OUR BODIES the other physical information involved in piloting and that would allow the senses of our bodies to capture and thus build an amplified view of the conditions between the car and the track. AND THIS IS EXACTLY what the distant vision allows, we can explicitly see the whole vehicle in this type of external camera, this allows us to have the same "complete vision" that a pilot has from inside the vehicle but in his case the image is formed from the sensory stimuli received by the body. It seems ironic but playing simulator with chase cam brings the experience closer to realism than with all the other pretentious visions of the game, cockpit, hood, etc. 😉
I race in cockpit view, but have tried the other views extensively and I'm not faster in any of them. I think it's a myth that you can find more time in a particular view.
i put my first thousand hours in the cockpit, then switched over to the first person view with no hood because it was the best view to give me most of the information i needed. definitely spent some time in 3rd for the reasons you listed. I have to laugh at people who think 3rd person view can't be good for a racing wheel, that's such a wtf position to take on the matter
You say you lose the rev band view in VR but that’s not true as you just use the car’s real rev counter which is exactly where you need it. I agree VR mode is probably slower for the top 1% of drivers plus they can’t stream it, but if feels like an old last Gen console game once you’ve tried VR and there’s no going back.
Wow people really are obnoxious. 3rd person view is how racing games were born, first off. That's how I started racing games in the 80's with games like Test Run 2, Out Run. That's how Mario Kart was made, that's how F-Zero was made too, and how Gran Turismo 1 was made??? Hello? This is a classic and nostalgic view that us vets will always love and for good reason. Second, there ain't nobody on this comment thread good enough to compete in GT Academy, so this elitism sim racing BS is just that, all BS. With all the sim racing options and peripherals now available you still aren't good enough to get paid for this so, joke is on you for even trying to force your preferences onto others, LOL. Play the game however you want, enjoy playing in the views that you like. I myself like playing all of them. They all offer a different perspective. When cockpit view was introduced as a standardized option, I was definitely beyond happy. But it's sad that people try to force this on other people from, what it seems like, sim racing elitism. Well you can go ahead and F-Off, I'll play any damn way I please, so good luck LOL.
Nose cam is best, you get a better sensation of what the cars doing, plus the rear view mirror. Best way. VR mode is the most realistsic, if you want the real car experience, this would be a game changer if multiplayer had VR, Head movements and all, you potentially stare at each other in driver, that would be epic !?!? 🤯
@@Kireth I would like to use the bonnet view. But the mirror has saved me to many times when someone dive bombs or just simply missed the braking point.
They cant show the hood and a mirror but they can show the entirely detailed interior.. and a mirror. Seems like the hood wouldn't be any more processing power than a detailed car interior
I use the cockpit view. At its heart Gran Turismo is a racing simulation after all, not an arcade game. In my opinion GT7 should make some competition and options for lobbies with the option to lock the view.
Cockpit view for me since I play GT7 only on VR. Sure its more difficult sometimes to see what's going on around me and perhaps I would be faster with other views but the feeling of being there is just more important for me.
I have been using hood cam almost my entire life. Both with wheel and controller, about a month ago i desided to try cockpit view, and from first lap i had a way better feeling of the car
Bumper cam will always be quicker, but same for me. I'm 8 tenths quicker a lap in bumper cam, but there is no way I'm using any other view aside from cockpit view. I play for the realism. If pace is sacrificed, it's ok with me.
@@gseric4721 To me, it depends on a few things. For maximum competitiveness, yes, the bumper cam is one of the best (I like the hood cam for a higher angle to view the road ahead better). When I'm doing a slower race with a beautiful car, I'll do third person. I like to look at my beautiful cars in action sometimes, and without having to watch any replays.
@@markbooth I wish they had a hot key to turn the hud off and on. Need access to the fuel map, for fuel managed races, and its also nice to get an idea of when you need to change to wets or slicks with dynamic weather.
@@jr260cc5 the weather radar is needed for those races sadly, although I wish they’d remove the track wetness gauge entirely and make drivers feel grip levels and the need to change tyres.
I like the bumper cam - not only because of the mirror, but because all of the info is neatly arranged in the middle. I don't have to glance off to the side to check the radar for example
VR for me, I’m still on controller though and hoping to get a wheel later this year. I wouldn’t argue that it makes me any quicker, but I love the level of immersion it seems to give me, plus it’s given me more appreciation of the cars somehow. I was doing Nurburgring earlier today and noticed the mist rising in a dip, I was so flipping immersed, that I spun off the track.
You can never go back to last Gen racing once you’ve felt VR lol. The car interiors are pointless in 2D game mode but absolutely incredible in VR as you have to learn all the steering wheel data and rev counters on GT3 cars
I am almost exclusively doing VR cockpit and only take the occasional break out of VR while charging my haptics vest. And until I can afford a wheel, I have exclusively used the gyroscope steering on the controller instead of the joysticks or buttons. Using that mode you really want cockpit view in case you oversteer and the hand position resets. You can see when that happens. It happens far less for me these days as I get more experienced.
Cockpit. Depth -5, hight 5, offset angle, and type 2. Takes a sec to get used to the offset. If you can move your seat or tv to adjust it really helps but you will find a lot of pace with this camera settings once your adjusted
@@venominjected OK. I'll try it tonight. I like to use the cockpit view but it's difficult to keep the line on hairpins when you can't see out the side windows.
I pretty much only use cockpit view in VR when racing . I have a much better feel for the car which I reckon makes up for the reduced vision. The immersion in GT7 VR can be so good, especially in open wheelers. I ordered the VR2 and have raved with it almost exclusively ever since. I just can’t drive without it now. 🤩🤩🤩
I have always used cockpit view and have won GTWS Championships doing it so its not necessarily the slowest view. Couple days ago I got a VR so now I'm just adjusting to that.
I always use the hood/roof view because it is easier to spot braking points, allowing me to do constant lap times and if a crash occurred ahead. I would spot it quicker so I have plenty of time to react.
@@KepleroGT I think Sport is a mess because of two reasons, one a broken penalty system, and two no real damage to cars. The result is that a driver can drive dirty, get away with it and still finish well.
Ever since the day Psvr2 was released, I only play in Vr, before that it was cockpit view, I bought a "SIM RIG" to Play a "Racing Simulator" so the realistic view is the only viable one in my opinion. But I appreciate everyone has their preference. Maybe one day I'll strap myself to the bumper or bootlid of my Boxster S and give it a blast along a back road. I get that the cockpit view has its restrictions but then again there are so many cars that I have driven that have A-Pillars that I swear were designed to cause and accident.
I wish GT7 allowed Cockpit view but closer up where you don’t see the steering wheel especially when you’re issuing a steering wheel to play the game. Forza, ACC and other racers have that option.
Yes! This would be perfect. I am already looking at my "actual" steering wheel live so all I need is the outline of the windshield an dashboard essentially. That would keep me "in" the car but maximize the field of view.
Gentlemen remember, YOU paid $70 for the game play at whatever camera YOU prefer... Gatekeepers hate having fun and want to ruin the fun for everyone else
I love the cockpit view but I get faster times with the above hood(roof?) Camera, but it depeneds on the car sometimes too. I can't drive in 3rd it's much harder to know when to brake for a turn
Every since grand torismo come out 25 years ago I always drove on bumper cam. It’s amazing and I was always fast in that view. But since getting a ps5 and gt7 I’ve been getting used to cockpit cam as I race in psvr2 always. It’s so amazing in vr. I’ve never looked back since getting the vr2. I absolutely love it.
i like cockpit view it makes me feel like i am in the car . the view is not right . the wide angle view is to small like all the other sim game. gran turismo say realty driving so where i it realty driving . when i drive real car i can see with out moving my eye all three mirrors.and was playing it seen the cockpit veiw casme out on gran turismo . i try vr and veiw was like was in snow strom . and try the vr that different kind hookup and there was the snow strom angain. after that the ps vr 2 can and after the two vr i could not see paying a three vr the cost living is gone up so high with buy something today on budget no more high paying job he . but all the other go up in price . sow my best veiw is still cockpit . thank you the thought.
I cant comment, only reply.. 🤣😃 but I literally hate when ppl using roof view...and I know why..but I rather have my mirror on then use the radar or look back...but since im only racing on vr, there is no more choice 😅
Kireth you can adjust your distance and height in cockpit on psvr2, when you recentre the camera holding the options button lean forward to be further back or more forward for the opposite effect, also if your too high lean up a bit gives you more height
Roof view is the way to go imo. Bumper view is the next best but for me it’s too low to the ground. Roof cam gives nice overview therefore gives me the best feel for track and vehicle dimensions.
Cockpit is fastest when your immersed into the game as you can get as close to your potential in real life or your just artificially fast in my eyes just takes time to get used to the bumper cam yeah you can see car but you know where your wheels are when you get used to it and have analog info so you know where your shift points are for sure the fact they don’t have an rpm number ontop the rpm meter is terrible for the bonnet cam and they need a mirror like all the mirrors and info work and in detail in cockpit sure they can add a mirror or indicators on screen where cars are and not in bottom right corner
Cockpit may offer the least advantage, but I love it for the immersion. I'd use 3rd person more if the camera wasn't so "stiff (?)" and the fact that the car itself always blocks my view of the road, especially on hills. Might try the hood camera sometime, but I don't like the bumper cam, I need at least some frame of reference between my car and the road.
I only use the cockpit view, that should be mandatory on online races, for me makes no sense you be on race simulator using a third person view, even if the cockpit is not what we want to be.
if you arent using VR then irrespective of how fast you are you are playing a game, VR IS simulation, it is the upper tier now and i suspect the great leveller, anything lower than VR isnt credible any more IMO appreciate that might sound elitist and many cant afford the VR but if you fancy yourself as a sim racer then it HAS to be VR and imo the GT OFFICIAL race stuff should force the drivers to use it
Sadly GT7 is a console game aimed at kids as well as adults so the game now blurs the line between sim and arcade game but it’s roots are a game not a sim. I love the fact I don’t need to buy a £2k PC to play in VR now and GT7 has absolutely nailed VR sim racing since the February upgrade but it’s great that everyone gets to race together. I wish we could have VR only races though too
I used to use bumper cam in GTS (not the roof cam which he also called bumper cam), but since switching to cockpit cam in GT7 the level of satisfaction and enjoyment has rocketed, when you can see the cars next to you or just in front of you from within the cockpit when you're racing close, the sense of immersion is immense which makes it so much more enjoyable, can only imagine how good VR must be
Btw do you wear gloves when racing on the G pro ?I used to because my first TM wheel was alcantara and you had to wear them so got used to racing like that but have recently swithed to no gloves and much more comfortable for long sessions .I only run mine at 7 or 8 nm tho with minimal trueforce
Bumper cam will easily be the quickest out of all camera angles, as you know exactly where to place the car on apex entry/exit. I play for realism, though. Even if I'm 1-2 seconds off the pace of the fastest guys in the world in cockpit mode, it doesn't matter to me. I want to get the full experience. And it makes me happy to know that if I'm a bumper cam driver, I'm easily into the top 2% in the world, and in some cases, in the top 1%.
The best camera angle is the one you are most comfortable with.
Seriously lmao. For folks going on about oh it’s a simulator it should be x y z. How about it’s what we are comfortable with.
I agree but I've also find myself switching up with doing the test bc I'm having problems passing some of them on gold. It's crazy bc in gt sport I didn't have near the problem
I haven't got around to buying a PS5 yet, but now I've retired. I'm thinking of getting one to keep my brain active.
Based on my experience of earlier GT games, there's nothing wrong with using 3rd person whilst you're getting used to the cars/tracks, and then switching to cockpit to really try out the driver experience.
But yes, use whichever camera you are happy with.
simply wrong
from a driving perspective every cam is better than 3rd person if you wanna be more precise, consistent and fast
Aw shut up lmao, bumper is objectively best.
The second one is a roof cam. The camera is fixed to the roof. The game needs a proper bonnet cam.
Cockpit view…of course
But in game cockpit view adjustability is VERY limited.
I dont understand why 🙄
Nothing beats the cockpit view
hood view is the best, but it is at times confusing when some hood camera sits more to the roof and some more to the front. I personally prefer it to be placed just in front of the roof. The only problem is that there is no mirror when you have to race others (AI or people).
Easier to track crash bandicoot next to me
I noticed that too. Some hood views are way to high. I want it right at the base of the windshield and I want the hood to be as wide as the screen.
Best camera settings for me: Cockpit View Height: 5 Depth: -5 Wobbling Type 2. Chase View Camera Sensitivity 1; Chase View Rotation Axis Offset: 0; Chase View Type: Near
I agree completely with you on the views, that's why I never use third, but bonnet view. Only thing chase is good for is seeing when I've completely passed cars
Third person because of the wider field of view.
When nasty drivers are trying to ram me, I can usually see them setting up and try to avoid them.
When I watch motorsports we view the event, usually not from the in car camera.
When I'm watching, I'm learning.
W i do the same thing for this exact reason
The corners are hard enough to see when you're racing an F1, I can't imagine trying to play in first person with that kind of speed.
Cockpit is much more challenging than driving from the roof, or front bumper. Who knew?!
I love sitting in those amazing reproductions of the actual cockpit in every car. Back in the Need For Speed days, I could only dream of such realism.
You should try to make a comparison test between each. Like how much the steering and brakes and handling changes from view to view. I bet it's at least 20% gain on the bumper cam lol
I bought a vr2 a few weeks ago. I have just one word for it.. WOW..! It completely changed the game, it unlocked the full potential of the game imo…WOW.!!
First person camera to me to race normal, and 3rd person for drift.
By the way, I didn't see no one talking but they made change in the roullette, my first ticket was a 4 star one... And i could won a Super Formula, Lambo Veneno, Tomahawk and the Aston Martin Vulcan, I won the Super formula.
Way much better than the 5k credits.
I use the “bumper” view with the mirror, but it’s not on the bumper. It’s higher up and further back, which you can tell when you’re right behind someone. I would guess it’s either supposed to be at the bottom of the windscreen or kind of two thirds of the way up the bonnet. I feel it gives the best view of the road, the rear view mirror is essential and the MFD is centred on the screen, which makes it much easier to change brake balance/traction control/fuel mapping without taking your attention away from the road. If you compare it to bumper cam on other sims/games you’ll notice the difference in position of the camera.
Hood ornament view
Agreed, cockpit view is the simulation view. Any other view just becomes unrealistic.
next iteration needs option to change the FOV, seat adjustments, pitch and triple monitor support and more fine grain FFB options - this is one of the main reason i prefer ACC and iRacing on the PC even though the graphics doesn’t look as easy on the eye as GT7.
even though i’m a PC guy, i do enjoy a occasional GT7 session. imagine this gets ported to the PC….
???How do you get that tire temp gauge??? Also, if I'm not playing VR, 3rd person is my favorite...
@Kireth would also love to learn how you get that information
It all depends for me. If i want to appreciate my car designs i dont do it during gameplay, but instead i appreciate them through watching race replays.
If i want to be competitive especially online, then ill use bumper cam.
If i want to showcase or feel immersed in a real driving experience then ill use cockpit.
Summary: appreciate car designs i watch TV style replay. Online/competitive driving i use bumper. Offline/casual showcase i use cockpit.
From.the offset with gtsport I've been using bumper cam with mirror . Personally want all that view coming at me. Cockpit is too restrictive and chase cam is too unrealistic. Even if I found myself more competitive in chase I could never use it as its just too "video game" as opposed to "sim racing game". Interestingly Tidgney (some of you may know was on for 3rd place in gtsport world champs until he got punted off track). He did a video testing all the different views. To his surprise he found bumper cam with mirror fastest, (a view he was not using at the gtsport world championships)
I use the cockpit for realism, but the roof calm view is the easiest/most advantageous to drive from. I have never been able to drive any game third person....kudos to you if you can. Zero realism though. Same with bumper cam.
Only cockpit. Now where is that HUD-toggle?
We need it!
@@Kireth No bæ. The lost logical and sinmple thing so inportant, even more so after VR, and it isn't there. They have been drinking petrol.
I feel that you're very knowledgeable about gt7 and i need some advise. I'm having trouble with the licenses test. So what setting or camera do you recommend? Thanks
Why not rotate through the cameras? For track limits third person can be helpful
You can adjust the height and field of vision in GT. It’s on the option menu
Kireth, you can adjust the up, down back and forth in psvr. However it has to be done in game which is annoying. Something’s they put me to close the wheels and I adjust to move back
For immersion I like cockpit view but for precision driving I feel I perform the best in hood view
I don’t like cockpit because I like seeing the details of my car model and I like seeing my designs while I’m bending corners
I use roof/hood because i'm fastest in it (like most use bumper/hood because they are faster with it) , but in my opinion everyone should be forced to cockpit view in sport mode...
The angle above the hood on the roof sort of a go pro esk u have to have great depth perception in this view though
I don't like the "bonnet"view because the HUD. Speed and gears get lost in the car. They need to put some thicker border strokes on the white number/lettering so it doesn't blend in
I wouldn't put cockpit view and VR in the same category. Even though they're ostensibly the same, the amount of extra visibility from having head tracking in VR makes it SO much better than its flat screen equivalent.
Try doing half a race in VR then take it off and finish on TV - it's HIDEOUS!! 😂
That's like a biathlon
Chase (third person), for me the best. It's not a question of ease, it's an almost philosophical reflection. In real life a pilot "sees" all the conditions of the vehicle using more than his eyes, he uses his body and all the sensations reverberated in him. When we watch a driver driving the car we tend to think that from his point of view it all boils down to what he can see while sitting in the cockpit, but we also tend to forget that he doesn't just see with his eyes. In the case of games, when we play a simulator we ourselves are sitting on a couch or chair and we do not receive IN OUR BODIES the other physical information involved in piloting and that would allow the senses of our bodies to capture and thus build an amplified view of the conditions between the car and the track. AND THIS IS EXACTLY what the distant vision allows, we can explicitly see the whole vehicle in this type of external camera, this allows us to have the same "complete vision" that a pilot has from inside the vehicle but in his case the image is formed from the sensory stimuli received by the body. It seems ironic but playing simulator with chase cam brings the experience closer to realism than with all the other pretentious visions of the game, cockpit, hood, etc. 😉
Don’t forget you can adjust the depth and height of the cockpit view
I race in cockpit view, but have tried the other views extensively and I'm not faster in any of them. I think it's a myth that you can find more time in a particular view.
for fun i play cockpit view, but i've been getting way better times in chase camera.
i have always used the one where the car is not visible, ive used it since first Gran Turismo.
I agree completely. Excellent.
excellent....
i put my first thousand hours in the cockpit, then switched over to the first person view with no hood because it was the best view to give me most of the information i needed. definitely spent some time in 3rd for the reasons you listed. I have to laugh at people who think 3rd person view can't be good for a racing wheel, that's such a wtf position to take on the matter
Cockitpit view for me but i am starting to warm up to the bonnet cam for precision.
You say you lose the rev band view in VR but that’s not true as you just use the car’s real rev counter which is exactly where you need it.
I agree VR mode is probably slower for the top 1% of drivers plus they can’t stream it, but if feels like an old last Gen console game once you’ve tried VR and there’s no going back.
I prefer cockpit with VR. It feels like I'm driving the cars for real.
My favorite angel is the front view even though i cant see my epic f1 livery
3rd person for licenses, cockpit for races 👍🏼
I am on the roof and would love the addition of a top screen mirror 👏
Like deployed 👍
How to you have temperature on tyres?
Wow people really are obnoxious. 3rd person view is how racing games were born, first off. That's how I started racing games in the 80's with games like Test Run 2, Out Run. That's how Mario Kart was made, that's how F-Zero was made too, and how Gran Turismo 1 was made??? Hello? This is a classic and nostalgic view that us vets will always love and for good reason. Second, there ain't nobody on this comment thread good enough to compete in GT Academy, so this elitism sim racing BS is just that, all BS. With all the sim racing options and peripherals now available you still aren't good enough to get paid for this so, joke is on you for even trying to force your preferences onto others, LOL. Play the game however you want, enjoy playing in the views that you like. I myself like playing all of them. They all offer a different perspective. When cockpit view was introduced as a standardized option, I was definitely beyond happy. But it's sad that people try to force this on other people from, what it seems like, sim racing elitism. Well you can go ahead and F-Off, I'll play any damn way I please, so good luck LOL.
Front Bumper cam on controller, but normally play with wheel on VR.
When I do longer races I need the hud on tho. I lose track of the lap and don’t know when to pit
Nose cam is best, you get a better sensation of what the cars doing, plus the rear view mirror. Best way. VR mode is the most realistsic, if you want the real car experience, this would be a game changer if multiplayer had VR, Head movements and all, you potentially stare at each other in driver, that would be epic !?!? 🤯
Limited view it's not argument. The art is use sword what you have.
Bumper or hood view for me. Detest 3rd person.
Bro litterally skipped the most iconic view of them all 0,o the lower bumper what?? 0,o
Wish there was vr only lobbies
gotta be bumper. most precise
You missed front bumper view?
I used front bumper for the rear view mirror
Pro strat!
@@Kireth I would like to use the bonnet view. But the mirror has saved me to many times when someone dive bombs or just simply missed the braking point.
VR is the best camera angle. Period.
VR with wheel and stand
how can driving in third person be cheating? on wheel it feels extremely weird
PSVR2 seems to be better for me. I recorded a lot of side by side driving and my lap times are faster.
I'll tell you the best camera angle and that is VR BABY!!!!!!!
I’m a newb but I like seeing my car so 3rd person
They cant show the hood and a mirror but they can show the entirely detailed interior.. and a mirror. Seems like the hood wouldn't be any more processing power than a detailed car interior
The interior doesn’t need rendering at 60FPS so cockpit view is a lot easier on the GPU as only half the screen is fast moving.
I prefer the front bumper cam, but I have no need for the rear view mirror... since everyone is in front of me 😭😭
😂 😂
I use the cockpit view. At its heart Gran Turismo is a racing simulation after all, not an arcade game. In my opinion GT7 should make some competition and options for lobbies with the option to lock the view.
Option to lock the controller as well.
I second this. VR only lobbies, and controller and view only lobbies would really help people set up consistent and fair racing.
it's cute that you think GT7 is a racing sim😂
Cobblers.
@@Stroker-Z28 it’s pretty close to it now with a DD wheel and VR. I prefer it to iRacing and AC now.
Cockpit view for me since I play GT7 only on VR. Sure its more difficult sometimes to see what's going on around me and perhaps I would be faster with other views but the feeling of being there is just more important for me.
This is the purpose of the game!
There's always the track radar which shows a close up of the cars positions around you.
I have been using hood cam almost my entire life. Both with wheel and controller, about a month ago i desided to try cockpit view, and from first lap i had a way better feeling of the car
Bumper cam will always be quicker, but same for me. I'm 8 tenths quicker a lap in bumper cam, but there is no way I'm using any other view aside from cockpit view. I play for the realism. If pace is sacrificed, it's ok with me.
@@gseric4721 To me, it depends on a few things. For maximum competitiveness, yes, the bumper cam is one of the best (I like the hood cam for a higher angle to view the road ahead better).
When I'm doing a slower race with a beautiful car, I'll do third person. I like to look at my beautiful cars in action sometimes, and without having to watch any replays.
VR no hud with a steering wheel is my favorite. I just enjoy the driving experience more than any other view.
Hardcore with no HUD my friend 😎 I wish there was a little more wheel data on the GT3 cars and then I’d switch off the HUD too on daily races
@@markbooth I wish they had a hot key to turn the hud off and on. Need access to the fuel map, for fuel managed races, and its also nice to get an idea of when you need to change to wets or slicks with dynamic weather.
@@jr260cc5 the weather radar is needed for those races sadly, although I wish they’d remove the track wetness gauge entirely and make drivers feel grip levels and the need to change tyres.
I like the bumper cam - not only because of the mirror, but because all of the info is neatly arranged in the middle. I don't have to glance off to the side to check the radar for example
The centralization of the info is my reasoning too, as well as mirror
VR for me, I’m still on controller though and hoping to get a wheel later this year. I wouldn’t argue that it makes me any quicker, but I love the level of immersion it seems to give me, plus it’s given me more appreciation of the cars somehow. I was doing Nurburgring earlier today and noticed the mist rising in a dip, I was so flipping immersed, that I spun off the track.
You can never go back to last Gen racing once you’ve felt VR lol. The car interiors are pointless in 2D game mode but absolutely incredible in VR as you have to learn all the steering wheel data and rev counters on GT3 cars
VR is the ultimate if you ask me. Total immersion.
@@BoulderBum now if only I could get a motion system for my rig and use it on PS5… it can be done but only with a PC attached sadly.
I am almost exclusively doing VR cockpit and only take the occasional break out of VR while charging my haptics vest. And until I can afford a wheel, I have exclusively used the gyroscope steering on the controller instead of the joysticks or buttons. Using that mode you really want cockpit view in case you oversteer and the hand position resets. You can see when that happens. It happens far less for me these days as I get more experienced.
Wait till you get your wheel. VR + wheel = just the best :)
Cockpit. Depth -5, hight 5, offset angle, and type 2.
Takes a sec to get used to the offset. If you can move your seat or tv to adjust it really helps but you will find a lot of pace with this camera settings once your adjusted
How do I adjust those settings?
@@cheeseburger3209Pause the game during a race. Then you can change the view settings in the options menu.
@@venominjected is that only with psvr2?
@@cheeseburger3209 No, you may change the settings on a regular TV setup.
@@venominjected OK. I'll try it tonight. I like to use the cockpit view but it's difficult to keep the line on hairpins when you can't see out the side windows.
I pretty much only use cockpit view in VR when racing . I have a much better feel for the car which I reckon makes up for the reduced vision. The immersion in GT7 VR can be so good, especially in open wheelers. I ordered the VR2 and have raved with it almost exclusively ever since. I just can’t drive without it now. 🤩🤩🤩
I have always used cockpit view and have won GTWS Championships doing it so its not necessarily the slowest view. Couple days ago I got a VR so now I'm just adjusting to that.
I always use the hood/roof view because it is easier to spot braking points, allowing me to do constant lap times and if a crash occurred ahead. I would spot it quicker so I have plenty of time to react.
Yup but there's no mirror 😢😢
Cockpit view should be mandatory in sport mode. More small mistakes, cleaner battles as you can use your mirrors & more fun.
How are battles cleaner when you can't see half the car? They would be worse in fact, and I don't want them getting any worse than they are now
@@KepleroGT because you can exactly see what move the car behind is doing & anticipate sooner.
Fov adjustment should be mandatory in games that claim to be the real driving sim too.
@@KepleroGT I think Sport is a mess because of two reasons, one a broken penalty system, and two no real damage to cars. The result is that a driver can drive dirty, get away with it and still finish well.
If you are on a wheel, checking the mirrors is pretty much impossible
Ever since the day Psvr2 was released, I only play in Vr, before that it was cockpit view, I bought a "SIM RIG" to Play a "Racing Simulator" so the realistic view is the only viable one in my opinion. But I appreciate everyone has their preference. Maybe one day I'll strap myself to the bumper or bootlid of my Boxster S and give it a blast along a back road. I get that the cockpit view has its restrictions but then again there are so many cars that I have driven that have A-Pillars that I swear were designed to cause and accident.
I wish GT7 allowed Cockpit view but closer up where you don’t see the steering wheel especially when you’re issuing a steering wheel to play the game. Forza, ACC and other racers have that option.
There is and it’s the one I prefer to use. Only shows the hud and what’s in front of you.
@@sasinhkatanyarat583He's referring to a cockpit view with no visible wheel or hands.
Yes! This would be perfect. I am already looking at my "actual" steering wheel live so all I need is the outline of the windshield an dashboard essentially. That would keep me "in" the car but maximize the field of view.
I use cockpit view in every racing sim. Authentic
Cockpit cam all the way. It's just far less immersive otherwise.
Gentlemen remember, YOU paid $70 for the game play at whatever camera YOU prefer... Gatekeepers hate having fun and want to ruin the fun for everyone else
That’s something about gt7 I was hoping they were going to fix. I was hoping for more options when it comes to cockpit view. Like ACC has.
Playing this game in VR with a wheel setup is on another level.
Which is your favorite sim racing camera angle? 👇👇
I use the bumper cam w rear view mirror
I love the cockpit view but I get faster times with the above hood(roof?) Camera, but it depeneds on the car sometimes too. I can't drive in 3rd it's much harder to know when to brake for a turn
I've changed from roof cam to bumper cam purely because of the rear view mirror.
VR and cockpit
Probably hood cam.
Every since grand torismo come out 25 years ago I always drove on bumper cam. It’s amazing and I was always fast in that view. But since getting a ps5 and gt7 I’ve been getting used to cockpit cam as I race in psvr2 always. It’s so amazing in vr. I’ve never looked back since getting the vr2. I absolutely love it.
Psvr2 for me
i like cockpit view it makes me feel like i am in the car . the view is not right . the wide angle view is to small like all the other sim game. gran turismo say realty driving
so where i it realty driving . when i drive real car i can see with out moving my eye all three mirrors.and was playing it seen the cockpit veiw casme out on gran turismo . i try vr and veiw was like was in snow strom . and try the vr that different kind hookup and there was the snow strom angain. after that the ps vr 2 can and after the two vr i could not see paying a three vr the cost living is gone up so high with buy something today on budget no more high paying job he . but all the other go up in price . sow my best veiw is still cockpit . thank you the thought.
No worries man!
Used to use cockpit view standalone, past month I been using bumper with no mirror, when not in PSVR2 ( more and more VR lately)
And getting QUICK too!!
I cant comment, only reply.. 🤣😃 but I literally hate when ppl using roof view...and I know why..but I rather have my mirror on then use the radar or look back...but since im only racing on vr, there is no more choice 😅
Kireth you can adjust your distance and height in cockpit on psvr2, when you recentre the camera holding the options button lean forward to be further back or more forward for the opposite effect, also if your too high lean up a bit gives you more height
Roof view is the way to go imo. Bumper view is the next best but for me it’s too low to the ground. Roof cam gives nice overview therefore gives me the best feel for track and vehicle dimensions.
Cockpit is fastest when your immersed into the game as you can get as close to your potential in real life or your just artificially fast in my eyes just takes time to get used to the bumper cam yeah you can see car but you know where your wheels are when you get used to it and have analog info so you know where your shift points are for sure the fact they don’t have an rpm number ontop the rpm meter is terrible for the bonnet cam and they need a mirror like all the mirrors and info work and in detail in cockpit sure they can add a mirror or indicators on screen where cars are and not in bottom right corner
Only play in VR so cockpit for me but would also go cockpit on flatscreen. Don’t like being placed on the outside of the car. Too arcady for me
Cockpit may offer the least advantage, but I love it for the immersion. I'd use 3rd person more if the camera wasn't so "stiff (?)" and the fact that the car itself always blocks my view of the road, especially on hills. Might try the hood camera sometime, but I don't like the bumper cam, I need at least some frame of reference between my car and the road.
You can adjust camera stiffness for 3rd person
I only use the cockpit view, that should be mandatory on online races, for me makes no sense you be on race simulator using a third person view, even if the cockpit is not what we want to be.
if you arent using VR then irrespective of how fast you are you are playing a game, VR IS simulation, it is the upper tier now and i suspect the great leveller, anything lower than VR isnt credible any more IMO
appreciate that might sound elitist and many cant afford the VR but if you fancy yourself as a sim racer then it HAS to be VR and imo the GT OFFICIAL race stuff should force the drivers to use it
Sadly GT7 is a console game aimed at kids as well as adults so the game now blurs the line between sim and arcade game but it’s roots are a game not a sim. I love the fact I don’t need to buy a £2k PC to play in VR now and GT7 has absolutely nailed VR sim racing since the February upgrade but it’s great that everyone gets to race together. I wish we could have VR only races though too
I used to use bumper cam in GTS (not the roof cam which he also called bumper cam), but since switching to cockpit cam in GT7 the level of satisfaction and enjoyment has rocketed, when you can see the cars next to you or just in front of you from within the cockpit when you're racing close, the sense of immersion is immense which makes it so much more enjoyable, can only imagine how good VR must be
Always cockpit view with no hud since GT5..The rest of the cam is just pointless
Visuals, sound and immersion is best on cockpit. So i only drive that view, but its slightly slower and sometimes its harder to see.
I'm in vr so only cockpit for me
the best camera angle is the one gt7 doesn't have which is dashboard no wheel view, like other sim racing games has
I wish polyphony would add field of view adjustments similar to Acc I like cockpit view simply for the realism
Dimmer switch for gauges *!
Yes, more zoom in option on cockpit view would be great
Btw do you wear gloves when racing on the G pro ?I used to because my first TM wheel was alcantara and you had to wear them so got used to racing like that but have recently swithed to no gloves and much more comfortable for long sessions .I only run mine at 7 or 8 nm tho with minimal trueforce
no gloves bro
my fastes laptime at the Nordschleife in cockpit view = 6:16,733 In a Audi RS5 Turbo DTM""19 PP 821,56 ( Race Soft )
Nice!!
Bumper cam will easily be the quickest out of all camera angles, as you know exactly where to place the car on apex entry/exit. I play for realism, though. Even if I'm 1-2 seconds off the pace of the fastest guys in the world in cockpit mode, it doesn't matter to me. I want to get the full experience. And it makes me happy to know that if I'm a bumper cam driver, I'm easily into the top 2% in the world, and in some cases, in the top 1%.
Do laptimes with the different views and see how much it actually impacts
Bumper is faster usually