I use the cockpit view. At its heart Gran Turismo is a racing simulation after all, not an arcade game. In my opinion GT7 should make some competition and options for lobbies with the option to lock the view.
I agree but I've also find myself switching up with doing the test bc I'm having problems passing some of them on gold. It's crazy bc in gt sport I didn't have near the problem
I haven't got around to buying a PS5 yet, but now I've retired. I'm thinking of getting one to keep my brain active. Based on my experience of earlier GT games, there's nothing wrong with using 3rd person whilst you're getting used to the cars/tracks, and then switching to cockpit to really try out the driver experience. But yes, use whichever camera you are happy with.
Cockpit view for me since I play GT7 only on VR. Sure its more difficult sometimes to see what's going on around me and perhaps I would be faster with other views but the feeling of being there is just more important for me.
I have been using hood cam almost my entire life. Both with wheel and controller, about a month ago i desided to try cockpit view, and from first lap i had a way better feeling of the car
Bumper cam will always be quicker, but same for me. I'm 8 tenths quicker a lap in bumper cam, but there is no way I'm using any other view aside from cockpit view. I play for the realism. If pace is sacrificed, it's ok with me.
@@gseric4721 To me, it depends on a few things. For maximum competitiveness, yes, the bumper cam is one of the best (I like the hood cam for a higher angle to view the road ahead better). When I'm doing a slower race with a beautiful car, I'll do third person. I like to look at my beautiful cars in action sometimes, and without having to watch any replays.
I like the bumper cam - not only because of the mirror, but because all of the info is neatly arranged in the middle. I don't have to glance off to the side to check the radar for example
@@modularinspiration I wish they had a hot key to turn the hud off and on. Need access to the fuel map, for fuel managed races, and its also nice to get an idea of when you need to change to wets or slicks with dynamic weather.
@@jr260cc5 the weather radar is needed for those races sadly, although I wish they’d remove the track wetness gauge entirely and make drivers feel grip levels and the need to change tyres.
Cockpit. Depth -5, hight 5, offset angle, and type 2. Takes a sec to get used to the offset. If you can move your seat or tv to adjust it really helps but you will find a lot of pace with this camera settings once your adjusted
@@venominjected OK. I'll try it tonight. I like to use the cockpit view but it's difficult to keep the line on hairpins when you can't see out the side windows.
@@KepleroGT I think Sport is a mess because of two reasons, one a broken penalty system, and two no real damage to cars. The result is that a driver can drive dirty, get away with it and still finish well.
Gentlemen remember, YOU paid $70 for the game play at whatever camera YOU prefer... Gatekeepers hate having fun and want to ruin the fun for everyone else
VR for me, I’m still on controller though and hoping to get a wheel later this year. I wouldn’t argue that it makes me any quicker, but I love the level of immersion it seems to give me, plus it’s given me more appreciation of the cars somehow. I was doing Nurburgring earlier today and noticed the mist rising in a dip, I was so flipping immersed, that I spun off the track.
You can never go back to last Gen racing once you’ve felt VR lol. The car interiors are pointless in 2D game mode but absolutely incredible in VR as you have to learn all the steering wheel data and rev counters on GT3 cars
I am almost exclusively doing VR cockpit and only take the occasional break out of VR while charging my haptics vest. And until I can afford a wheel, I have exclusively used the gyroscope steering on the controller instead of the joysticks or buttons. Using that mode you really want cockpit view in case you oversteer and the hand position resets. You can see when that happens. It happens far less for me these days as I get more experienced.
I used to use bumper cam in GTS (not the roof cam which he also called bumper cam), but since switching to cockpit cam in GT7 the level of satisfaction and enjoyment has rocketed, when you can see the cars next to you or just in front of you from within the cockpit when you're racing close, the sense of immersion is immense which makes it so much more enjoyable, can only imagine how good VR must be
Kireth you can adjust your distance and height in cockpit on psvr2, when you recentre the camera holding the options button lean forward to be further back or more forward for the opposite effect, also if your too high lean up a bit gives you more height
I always use the hood/roof view because it is easier to spot braking points, allowing me to do constant lap times and if a crash occurred ahead. I would spot it quicker so I have plenty of time to react.
I have always used cockpit view and have won GTWS Championships doing it so its not necessarily the slowest view. Couple days ago I got a VR so now I'm just adjusting to that.
I pretty much only use cockpit view in VR when racing . I have a much better feel for the car which I reckon makes up for the reduced vision. The immersion in GT7 VR can be so good, especially in open wheelers. I ordered the VR2 and have raved with it almost exclusively ever since. I just can’t drive without it now. 🤩🤩🤩
Ever since the day Psvr2 was released, I only play in Vr, before that it was cockpit view, I bought a "SIM RIG" to Play a "Racing Simulator" so the realistic view is the only viable one in my opinion. But I appreciate everyone has their preference. Maybe one day I'll strap myself to the bumper or bootlid of my Boxster S and give it a blast along a back road. I get that the cockpit view has its restrictions but then again there are so many cars that I have driven that have A-Pillars that I swear were designed to cause and accident.
I love the cockpit view but I get faster times with the above hood(roof?) Camera, but it depeneds on the car sometimes too. I can't drive in 3rd it's much harder to know when to brake for a turn
Cockpit view is my favorite view but not in any GT game. In GT I've always used a bumper or hood cam. The 3rd person view has always given me a headache in GT. As far back as PS2. It's like the road is moving but the car isn't and it's just floating idk.
I wish GT7 allowed Cockpit view but closer up where you don’t see the steering wheel especially when you’re issuing a steering wheel to play the game. Forza, ACC and other racers have that option.
Yes! This would be perfect. I am already looking at my "actual" steering wheel live so all I need is the outline of the windshield an dashboard essentially. That would keep me "in" the car but maximize the field of view.
@@sasinhkatanyarat583 He didn't refer to driving as you would be sitting in the car's hood! This kind of view is for youtubers trying to be faster while playing a video game. I would like to be able to run GT7 against others on cockpit view given it is the more accurate view and consequently the most difficult one to really drive and go fast. I doubt top players in the trial records list do use cockpit view.
hood view is the best, but it is at times confusing when some hood camera sits more to the roof and some more to the front. I personally prefer it to be placed just in front of the roof. The only problem is that there is no mirror when you have to race others (AI or people).
For me, who like to play on hood/bumper cameras, should go to try Crash bandicoot/Mario Kart racing games. It will be more accurate to your expectations.
Every since grand torismo come out 25 years ago I always drove on bumper cam. It’s amazing and I was always fast in that view. But since getting a ps5 and gt7 I’ve been getting used to cockpit cam as I race in psvr2 always. It’s so amazing in vr. I’ve never looked back since getting the vr2. I absolutely love it.
Btw do you wear gloves when racing on the G pro ?I used to because my first TM wheel was alcantara and you had to wear them so got used to racing like that but have recently swithed to no gloves and much more comfortable for long sessions .I only run mine at 7 or 8 nm tho with minimal trueforce
Best camera settings for me: Cockpit View Height: 5 Depth: -5 Wobbling Type 2. Chase View Camera Sensitivity 1; Chase View Rotation Axis Offset: 0; Chase View Type: Near
I play 3rd person with a controller. I always have since GT1. However, I’ve recently switched to the GT DD Pro and I run the bumper view now. It gives you a very wide view. I also love the tachometers and the way the HUD is presented. It also has the best sound for the cars. I run a 7.1 Dolby Atmos surround sound system and it screams in this view. The only drawback is the limited view when going up hills. You can get around this by memorizing the tracks though.
I might have to try that view. I use the bumper cam in front, so no view of the car. Does feel a little bit like cheating. This seems like a good compromise.
Third person because of the wider field of view. When nasty drivers are trying to ram me, I can usually see them setting up and try to avoid them. When I watch motorsports we view the event, usually not from the in car camera. When I'm watching, I'm learning.
You should try to make a comparison test between each. Like how much the steering and brakes and handling changes from view to view. I bet it's at least 20% gain on the bumper cam lol
I like 3rd person and Bumper view. These pointer and training vids really help. I broke the 2min barrier at Trial Mountain yesterday, as well as posting in the mid to low 2's and it's because of video's like this one. Thanks Kireth
Cockpit may offer the least advantage, but I love it for the immersion. I'd use 3rd person more if the camera wasn't so "stiff (?)" and the fact that the car itself always blocks my view of the road, especially on hills. Might try the hood camera sometime, but I don't like the bumper cam, I need at least some frame of reference between my car and the road.
I cant comment, only reply.. 🤣😃 but I literally hate when ppl using roof view...and I know why..but I rather have my mirror on then use the radar or look back...but since im only racing on vr, there is no more choice 😅
I feel that you're very knowledgeable about gt7 and i need some advise. I'm having trouble with the licenses test. So what setting or camera do you recommend? Thanks
In Cockpit, always adjust your seat for max visibility. And yes he's right. Not enough adjustments. In VR, you have to find the sweet spot by moving around, resetting driving position. But now it's limited...
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When i was a kid I always played 3rd person. Once I started driving real cars, I started to try out cockpit view and now it's the most enjoyable way to play for me. Even when I'm blinded by the sun, or catch that tiny bit of a corner.
Cockpit is much more challenging than driving from the roof, or front bumper. Who knew?! I love sitting in those amazing reproductions of the actual cockpit in every car. Back in the Need For Speed days, I could only dream of such realism.
records would much different if they were restricted to the cockpit view. It is clear how much harder it is to drive on cockpit if compared to the others views. Would be fair to have races for cockpit view only , would be nice to run against others in the same level. By the way, I use to stay about 1 or 2 seconds from the record, but I will never move out from cockpit view. To change it, I go to Mario Kart or similar.
Cockpit is fastest when your immersed into the game as you can get as close to your potential in real life or your just artificially fast in my eyes just takes time to get used to the bumper cam yeah you can see car but you know where your wheels are when you get used to it and have analog info so you know where your shift points are for sure the fact they don’t have an rpm number ontop the rpm meter is terrible for the bonnet cam and they need a mirror like all the mirrors and info work and in detail in cockpit sure they can add a mirror or indicators on screen where cars are and not in bottom right corner
Easy fix for cockpit view feeling to close… sit forward with vr before the race starts. Once it sets your camera sit back and enjoy. If you feel to tall, sit up a bit more to when you lean forward.
Bumper cam will easily be the quickest out of all camera angles, as you know exactly where to place the car on apex entry/exit. I play for realism, though. Even if I'm 1-2 seconds off the pace of the fastest guys in the world in cockpit mode, it doesn't matter to me. I want to get the full experience. And it makes me happy to know that if I'm a bumper cam driver, I'm easily into the top 2% in the world, and in some cases, in the top 1%.
Roof view is the way to go imo. Bumper view is the next best but for me it’s too low to the ground. Roof cam gives nice overview therefore gives me the best feel for track and vehicle dimensions.
yes, I can imagine how you feel on this way. You should try Mario Kart or similar. I think it will be more accurate to yours expectations. You don't like simulation, unless you drive your real car from the roof as well.
It all depends for me. If i want to appreciate my car designs i dont do it during gameplay, but instead i appreciate them through watching race replays. If i want to be competitive especially online, then ill use bumper cam. If i want to showcase or feel immersed in a real driving experience then ill use cockpit. Summary: appreciate car designs i watch TV style replay. Online/competitive driving i use bumper. Offline/casual showcase i use cockpit.
First person camera to me to race normal, and 3rd person for drift. By the way, I didn't see no one talking but they made change in the roullette, my first ticket was a 4 star one... And i could won a Super Formula, Lambo Veneno, Tomahawk and the Aston Martin Vulcan, I won the Super formula. Way much better than the 5k credits.
I use cockpit view myself but I'm torn between the offset angle or the default. I like how the default angle you can see out the side of your driver side but the offset angle you see your entire front window
Honestly, it kinda depends on the car. The hood camera is probably my preferred option, but depending on the car, cockpit view is more than worth it. Number cam is cool also. It all comes down to preference!
both bumper cams. in particular the one with mirror. With time you get a sense of the width of your car and also has less distractions... although for tracks with lots of elevations, its hard to see some apexes...
I used to always use the 3de person view on racing games. But on gt7, i love the cockpit view. Altho I think that the bumper view has the best vantage point.
I use cockpit. I just played through the entire story with cockpit and no assist settings. It might cause more fails on average, but my successes feel cooler. I like how judging distances uses my real life driving instincts. When i try the front-car cams, it makes me feel like I'm gonna hit everything.
Kireth, you can adjust the up, down back and forth in psvr. However it has to be done in game which is annoying. Something’s they put me to close the wheels and I adjust to move back
I agree completely with you on the views, that's why I never use third, but bonnet view. Only thing chase is good for is seeing when I've completely passed cars
From.the offset with gtsport I've been using bumper cam with mirror . Personally want all that view coming at me. Cockpit is too restrictive and chase cam is too unrealistic. Even if I found myself more competitive in chase I could never use it as its just too "video game" as opposed to "sim racing game". Interestingly Tidgney (some of you may know was on for 3rd place in gtsport world champs until he got punted off track). He did a video testing all the different views. To his surprise he found bumper cam with mirror fastest, (a view he was not using at the gtsport world championships)
In flatscreen, bumper cam right on the front bumper, not hood view. WIth the camera near the deck, you also get the great mirror. But.... these days I race in VR2 exclusively. I agree with you, it's FoV is more limited, but damn, it is immersive.
I always drive in cockpit view. But if i can absolutely not can win the race (for example Autopolis Formule at the moment) I wil drive whit the camera at the top of the roof . Becaus there are so many curves , you can not see who is on your left ore right site.
Been using the same cam as you since Gt5. Havent switched since. Use it for the exact same reasons. Up close n personal with the ability to still see the front sides of my car.
When I’m not using the hood cam I like the cockpit view, but I use the offset one where the rear view and driver side mirrors are more in your pov. It took some getting used to but its better than the normal cockpit pov imo
I have been a 3rd person driver for the past 25 years as a casual gamer who always played racing games for fun and wasn't a hardcore sim racer. That all changed when I fired up the PSVR2 a couple months ago with the Woojer Vest 3 and IEM headphones. So much fun and the killer VR app that changes everything! I am now so hooked that I plan to save up for a wheel, seat, and pedals. I think it is entirely possible to overcome most the downfalls you mentioned why you don't recommend the VR view. Some cars are worse than others with visibility. But with killer immersion of sound and haptics that rattle your core, the fun factor goes up exponentially. I have also exclusively used the gyroscope steering with a dual sense pro controller since I don't have a wheel. The only time I don't play in VR is when the Haptic Vest needs a charge and then I switch to Third person. I have a 144hz monitor so I get a visual upgrade. Still would trade that visual upgrade 100% of the time for being in the cockpit of these amazing vehicles.
I like bumper cam for precision and better visual feel of the road, and chase cam for gamemodes where u have to bump into cars, and cockpit view for vr only since immersion is the goal
i like cockpit view it makes me feel like i am in the car . the view is not right . the wide angle view is to small like all the other sim game. gran turismo say realty driving so where i it realty driving . when i drive real car i can see with out moving my eye all three mirrors.and was playing it seen the cockpit veiw casme out on gran turismo . i try vr and veiw was like was in snow strom . and try the vr that different kind hookup and there was the snow strom angain. after that the ps vr 2 can and after the two vr i could not see paying a three vr the cost living is gone up so high with buy something today on budget no more high paying job he . but all the other go up in price . sow my best veiw is still cockpit . thank you the thought.
Hi, I just came across your channel with the keywords cockpit seen! Personally, I drive in a cockpit in racing as in Cruz! I feel more confident than on the hood! I even push the thing by activating oscillation 2. Camera movements 🎥 more realistic. In VR it must be insane!
i use psvr2, you can adjust were you are in the car with centering your view - center a little lower then you'll be and you'll be higher (pausing game required), i can not go back to tv but then again i'm not really a racer, I only race for money, i use the clutch and 6 gear shifter as often as possible unless the car in game uses steering shifting, But i love to cruise with a buddy in a party and do stuns like 180s
You forgot the one I use. The in between bumper hood roof and cockpit view. I call it the window view with a rear view mirror at the top (Can see nothing but the road). Been using it through all the GT games. Almost the same view as the bumper cam.
Hi I already have solid rig made of alu profiles, tgt2+tlcm. Currently, unfortunately, I only have a ps4 SSD, without the possibility of changing. It makes sense to play ACC ? Or is it so dramatically bad that it's not worth it???
I totally agree on the view ahead on track being easier in 3rd person. I use the bumper view mostly when using my wheel set-up. Sometimes i have to change to the top of the hood view(roof) when I'm having difficulties seeing corners up ahead, and when elevations change going into corners. I've used cockpit view a few times, but without the VR headset, or a big TV screen, it's very limiting on what you're able to see. Love the video man. Thanks for having the backs of the "other" guys lol
As a pad player, I've got so much to say on this, I mainly use first person view with the mirror, however sometimes i use bonnet view at tracks like Bathurst and Tokyo Expressway when you need to use the extremities of the circuit, I use chase cam in Forza Horizon, FM and Driveclub Dashcam is the best cam in Driveclub its truely brilliant in the wet weather you should try that. I've tried using chase cam in GTS/GT7 it just loses all the immersion for me. Super GT used to get all sorts of flack for using chase cam in GTS/GT7.
Front bumper view here. Like the location of instrumentation and rearview mirror. Would use cockpit view, but don't like seeing a wheel on the screen in front of my rig wheel. VR, which I don't use that much anymore due to VR sickness... cockpit view makes complete sense and works.
I used third person when I first started playing. When I got a wheel I started using the bumper cam where only the speedo showed. Mostly for the rear view mirror. The hood cam would probably have been better but no rear view. Recently using vr. I hope they add the leader board with the split times. It is nice to know where everyone is.
I raced for 1 year in Bumper view in GT Sport And GT7, often being faster than my friends racing cockpit view. But for authenticity I decided to start racing Cockpit view as we're trying to simulate racing, not cheat at it at the cost of our immersion? Now i race entirely in cockpit view in all sim racin titles and love it. Within 2 weeks I was just as fast as I was in Bumper view.
I use the “bumper” view with the mirror, but it’s not on the bumper. It’s higher up and further back, which you can tell when you’re right behind someone. I would guess it’s either supposed to be at the bottom of the windscreen or kind of two thirds of the way up the bonnet. I feel it gives the best view of the road, the rear view mirror is essential and the MFD is centred on the screen, which makes it much easier to change brake balance/traction control/fuel mapping without taking your attention away from the road. If you compare it to bumper cam on other sims/games you’ll notice the difference in position of the camera.
I’m with the bonnet/hood. I used to do 3rd person and then cockpit and still cockpit with some road cars because visibility seems to be better but first time in a gr1 or a super formula I forget which I switched to bonnet and it’s the best combo of visibility, precision and feel for me.
I was always a 3rd person player in racing games like forza and so on. I picked this up recently and found using bumper/hood view much more easier and faster race with.
When using VR cockpit view is best but when you arent, hood view is best for this argument. The controller or wheel in front of you is your dash and the screen is the window there is no point to limit yourself further. However, i use 3rd person because i like it and im comfortable with it.
I use the cockpit view. At its heart Gran Turismo is a racing simulation after all, not an arcade game. In my opinion GT7 should make some competition and options for lobbies with the option to lock the view.
Option to lock the controller as well.
I second this. VR only lobbies, and controller and view only lobbies would really help people set up consistent and fair racing.
it's cute that you think GT7 is a racing sim😂
Cobblers.
@@Stroker-Z28 it’s pretty close to it now with a DD wheel and VR. I prefer it to iRacing and AC now.
The best camera angle is the one you are most comfortable with.
Seriously lmao. For folks going on about oh it’s a simulator it should be x y z. How about it’s what we are comfortable with.
I agree but I've also find myself switching up with doing the test bc I'm having problems passing some of them on gold. It's crazy bc in gt sport I didn't have near the problem
I haven't got around to buying a PS5 yet, but now I've retired. I'm thinking of getting one to keep my brain active.
Based on my experience of earlier GT games, there's nothing wrong with using 3rd person whilst you're getting used to the cars/tracks, and then switching to cockpit to really try out the driver experience.
But yes, use whichever camera you are happy with.
simply wrong
from a driving perspective every cam is better than 3rd person if you wanna be more precise, consistent and fast
Aw shut up lmao, bumper is objectively best.
I prefer the front bumper cam, but I have no need for the rear view mirror... since everyone is in front of me 😭😭
😂 😂
Cockpit view for me since I play GT7 only on VR. Sure its more difficult sometimes to see what's going on around me and perhaps I would be faster with other views but the feeling of being there is just more important for me.
This is the purpose of the game!
There's always the track radar which shows a close up of the cars positions around you.
I have been using hood cam almost my entire life. Both with wheel and controller, about a month ago i desided to try cockpit view, and from first lap i had a way better feeling of the car
Bumper cam will always be quicker, but same for me. I'm 8 tenths quicker a lap in bumper cam, but there is no way I'm using any other view aside from cockpit view. I play for the realism. If pace is sacrificed, it's ok with me.
@@gseric4721 To me, it depends on a few things. For maximum competitiveness, yes, the bumper cam is one of the best (I like the hood cam for a higher angle to view the road ahead better).
When I'm doing a slower race with a beautiful car, I'll do third person. I like to look at my beautiful cars in action sometimes, and without having to watch any replays.
I like the bumper cam - not only because of the mirror, but because all of the info is neatly arranged in the middle. I don't have to glance off to the side to check the radar for example
The centralization of the info is my reasoning too, as well as mirror
VR no hud with a steering wheel is my favorite. I just enjoy the driving experience more than any other view.
Hardcore with no HUD my friend 😎 I wish there was a little more wheel data on the GT3 cars and then I’d switch off the HUD too on daily races
@@modularinspiration I wish they had a hot key to turn the hud off and on. Need access to the fuel map, for fuel managed races, and its also nice to get an idea of when you need to change to wets or slicks with dynamic weather.
@@jr260cc5 the weather radar is needed for those races sadly, although I wish they’d remove the track wetness gauge entirely and make drivers feel grip levels and the need to change tyres.
Cockpit. Depth -5, hight 5, offset angle, and type 2.
Takes a sec to get used to the offset. If you can move your seat or tv to adjust it really helps but you will find a lot of pace with this camera settings once your adjusted
How do I adjust those settings?
@@cheeseburger3209Pause the game during a race. Then you can change the view settings in the options menu.
@@venominjected is that only with psvr2?
@@cheeseburger3209 No, you may change the settings on a regular TV setup.
@@venominjected OK. I'll try it tonight. I like to use the cockpit view but it's difficult to keep the line on hairpins when you can't see out the side windows.
Cockpit view should be mandatory in sport mode. More small mistakes, cleaner battles as you can use your mirrors & more fun.
How are battles cleaner when you can't see half the car? They would be worse in fact, and I don't want them getting any worse than they are now
@@KepleroGT because you can exactly see what move the car behind is doing & anticipate sooner.
Fov adjustment should be mandatory in games that claim to be the real driving sim too.
@@KepleroGT I think Sport is a mess because of two reasons, one a broken penalty system, and two no real damage to cars. The result is that a driver can drive dirty, get away with it and still finish well.
If you are on a wheel, checking the mirrors is pretty much impossible
Gentlemen remember, YOU paid $70 for the game play at whatever camera YOU prefer... Gatekeepers hate having fun and want to ruin the fun for everyone else
VR for me, I’m still on controller though and hoping to get a wheel later this year. I wouldn’t argue that it makes me any quicker, but I love the level of immersion it seems to give me, plus it’s given me more appreciation of the cars somehow. I was doing Nurburgring earlier today and noticed the mist rising in a dip, I was so flipping immersed, that I spun off the track.
You can never go back to last Gen racing once you’ve felt VR lol. The car interiors are pointless in 2D game mode but absolutely incredible in VR as you have to learn all the steering wheel data and rev counters on GT3 cars
VR is the ultimate if you ask me. Total immersion.
@@BoulderBum now if only I could get a motion system for my rig and use it on PS5… it can be done but only with a PC attached sadly.
I am almost exclusively doing VR cockpit and only take the occasional break out of VR while charging my haptics vest. And until I can afford a wheel, I have exclusively used the gyroscope steering on the controller instead of the joysticks or buttons. Using that mode you really want cockpit view in case you oversteer and the hand position resets. You can see when that happens. It happens far less for me these days as I get more experienced.
Wait till you get your wheel. VR + wheel = just the best :)
I used to use bumper cam in GTS (not the roof cam which he also called bumper cam), but since switching to cockpit cam in GT7 the level of satisfaction and enjoyment has rocketed, when you can see the cars next to you or just in front of you from within the cockpit when you're racing close, the sense of immersion is immense which makes it so much more enjoyable, can only imagine how good VR must be
Kireth you can adjust your distance and height in cockpit on psvr2, when you recentre the camera holding the options button lean forward to be further back or more forward for the opposite effect, also if your too high lean up a bit gives you more height
I always use the hood/roof view because it is easier to spot braking points, allowing me to do constant lap times and if a crash occurred ahead. I would spot it quicker so I have plenty of time to react.
Yup but there's no mirror 😢😢
I have always used cockpit view and have won GTWS Championships doing it so its not necessarily the slowest view. Couple days ago I got a VR so now I'm just adjusting to that.
Playing this game in VR with a wheel setup is on another level.
I pretty much only use cockpit view in VR when racing . I have a much better feel for the car which I reckon makes up for the reduced vision. The immersion in GT7 VR can be so good, especially in open wheelers. I ordered the VR2 and have raved with it almost exclusively ever since. I just can’t drive without it now. 🤩🤩🤩
Ever since the day Psvr2 was released, I only play in Vr, before that it was cockpit view, I bought a "SIM RIG" to Play a "Racing Simulator" so the realistic view is the only viable one in my opinion. But I appreciate everyone has their preference. Maybe one day I'll strap myself to the bumper or bootlid of my Boxster S and give it a blast along a back road. I get that the cockpit view has its restrictions but then again there are so many cars that I have driven that have A-Pillars that I swear were designed to cause and accident.
Which is your favorite sim racing camera angle? 👇👇
I use the bumper cam w rear view mirror
I love the cockpit view but I get faster times with the above hood(roof?) Camera, but it depeneds on the car sometimes too. I can't drive in 3rd it's much harder to know when to brake for a turn
I've changed from roof cam to bumper cam purely because of the rear view mirror.
VR and cockpit
Probably hood cam.
Nothing beats the cockpit view
I use cockpit view in every racing sim. Authentic
???How do you get that tire temp gauge??? Also, if I'm not playing VR, 3rd person is my favorite...
@Kireth would also love to learn how you get that information
The second one is a roof cam. The camera is fixed to the roof. The game needs a proper bonnet cam.
Cockpit cam all the way. It's just far less immersive otherwise.
Cockpit view is my favorite view but not in any GT game. In GT I've always used a bumper or hood cam. The 3rd person view has always given me a headache in GT. As far back as PS2. It's like the road is moving but the car isn't and it's just floating idk.
I wish GT7 allowed Cockpit view but closer up where you don’t see the steering wheel especially when you’re issuing a steering wheel to play the game. Forza, ACC and other racers have that option.
There is and it’s the one I prefer to use. Only shows the hud and what’s in front of you.
@@sasinhkatanyarat583He's referring to a cockpit view with no visible wheel or hands.
Yes! This would be perfect. I am already looking at my "actual" steering wheel live so all I need is the outline of the windshield an dashboard essentially. That would keep me "in" the car but maximize the field of view.
@@sasinhkatanyarat583 He didn't refer to driving as you would be sitting in the car's hood! This kind of view is for youtubers trying to be faster while playing a video game. I would like to be able to run GT7 against others on cockpit view given it is the more accurate view and consequently the most difficult one to really drive and go fast. I doubt top players in the trial records list do use cockpit view.
hood view is the best, but it is at times confusing when some hood camera sits more to the roof and some more to the front. I personally prefer it to be placed just in front of the roof. The only problem is that there is no mirror when you have to race others (AI or people).
Easier to track crash bandicoot next to me
I noticed that too. Some hood views are way to high. I want it right at the base of the windshield and I want the hood to be as wide as the screen.
For me, who like to play on hood/bumper cameras, should go to try Crash bandicoot/Mario Kart racing games. It will be more accurate to your expectations.
Cockpit view…of course
But in game cockpit view adjustability is VERY limited.
I dont understand why 🙄
Every since grand torismo come out 25 years ago I always drove on bumper cam. It’s amazing and I was always fast in that view. But since getting a ps5 and gt7 I’ve been getting used to cockpit cam as I race in psvr2 always. It’s so amazing in vr. I’ve never looked back since getting the vr2. I absolutely love it.
Btw do you wear gloves when racing on the G pro ?I used to because my first TM wheel was alcantara and you had to wear them so got used to racing like that but have recently swithed to no gloves and much more comfortable for long sessions .I only run mine at 7 or 8 nm tho with minimal trueforce
no gloves bro
That’s something about gt7 I was hoping they were going to fix. I was hoping for more options when it comes to cockpit view. Like ACC has.
Best camera settings for me: Cockpit View Height: 5 Depth: -5 Wobbling Type 2. Chase View Camera Sensitivity 1; Chase View Rotation Axis Offset: 0; Chase View Type: Near
I play 3rd person with a controller. I always have since GT1. However, I’ve recently switched to the GT DD Pro and I run the bumper view now. It gives you a very wide view. I also love the tachometers and the way the HUD is presented. It also has the best sound for the cars. I run a 7.1 Dolby Atmos surround sound system and it screams in this view. The only drawback is the limited view when going up hills. You can get around this by memorizing the tracks though.
I might have to try that view. I use the bumper cam in front, so no view of the car. Does feel a little bit like cheating. This seems like a good compromise.
Let me know how it goes!
@@Kireth Will do. The track limits visual aid using this view is a good tip.
Third person because of the wider field of view.
When nasty drivers are trying to ram me, I can usually see them setting up and try to avoid them.
When I watch motorsports we view the event, usually not from the in car camera.
When I'm watching, I'm learning.
W i do the same thing for this exact reason
The corners are hard enough to see when you're racing an F1, I can't imagine trying to play in first person with that kind of speed.
You should try to make a comparison test between each. Like how much the steering and brakes and handling changes from view to view. I bet it's at least 20% gain on the bumper cam lol
I like 3rd person and Bumper view. These pointer and training vids really help. I broke the 2min barrier at Trial Mountain yesterday, as well as posting in the mid to low 2's and it's because of video's like this one. Thanks Kireth
Nice one man!!
Cockpit may offer the least advantage, but I love it for the immersion. I'd use 3rd person more if the camera wasn't so "stiff (?)" and the fact that the car itself always blocks my view of the road, especially on hills. Might try the hood camera sometime, but I don't like the bumper cam, I need at least some frame of reference between my car and the road.
You can adjust camera stiffness for 3rd person
Used to use cockpit view standalone, past month I been using bumper with no mirror, when not in PSVR2 ( more and more VR lately)
And getting QUICK too!!
I cant comment, only reply.. 🤣😃 but I literally hate when ppl using roof view...and I know why..but I rather have my mirror on then use the radar or look back...but since im only racing on vr, there is no more choice 😅
VR is where it's at for me, hate the lack of HUD, like time between cars and pit stops but the emersion is unparalleled
Cockpit view isn't just a camera option, it's a way of life.
I feel that you're very knowledgeable about gt7 and i need some advise. I'm having trouble with the licenses test. So what setting or camera do you recommend? Thanks
Why not rotate through the cameras? For track limits third person can be helpful
what view do you have when driving a car in motorsport... When I rallied MK2 escorts I looked through the screen...so, cockpit..all day long.
In Cockpit, always adjust your seat for max visibility. And yes he's right. Not enough adjustments. In VR, you have to find the sweet spot by moving around, resetting driving position. But now it's limited...
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been driving since my wife died
18 months ago. I am always alone sol i juust drive
When i was a kid I always played 3rd person. Once I started driving real cars, I started to try out cockpit view and now it's the most enjoyable way to play for me. Even when I'm blinded by the sun, or catch that tiny bit of a corner.
Cockpit is much more challenging than driving from the roof, or front bumper. Who knew?!
I love sitting in those amazing reproductions of the actual cockpit in every car. Back in the Need For Speed days, I could only dream of such realism.
Visuals, sound and immersion is best on cockpit. So i only drive that view, but its slightly slower and sometimes its harder to see.
records would much different if they were restricted to the cockpit view. It is clear how much harder it is to drive on cockpit if compared to the others views. Would be fair to have races for cockpit view only , would be nice to run against others in the same level. By the way, I use to stay about 1 or 2 seconds from the record, but I will never move out from cockpit view. To change it, I go to Mario Kart or similar.
Cockpit is fastest when your immersed into the game as you can get as close to your potential in real life or your just artificially fast in my eyes just takes time to get used to the bumper cam yeah you can see car but you know where your wheels are when you get used to it and have analog info so you know where your shift points are for sure the fact they don’t have an rpm number ontop the rpm meter is terrible for the bonnet cam and they need a mirror like all the mirrors and info work and in detail in cockpit sure they can add a mirror or indicators on screen where cars are and not in bottom right corner
Silly question but how do you choose the diff views on ps5
2:36 what's that? How caw we have the same tool for Tyre temperature and others important things?
Easy fix for cockpit view feeling to close… sit forward with vr before the race starts. Once it sets your camera sit back and enjoy. If you feel to tall, sit up a bit more to when you lean forward.
Bumper cam will easily be the quickest out of all camera angles, as you know exactly where to place the car on apex entry/exit. I play for realism, though. Even if I'm 1-2 seconds off the pace of the fastest guys in the world in cockpit mode, it doesn't matter to me. I want to get the full experience. And it makes me happy to know that if I'm a bumper cam driver, I'm easily into the top 2% in the world, and in some cases, in the top 1%.
Roof view is the way to go imo. Bumper view is the next best but for me it’s too low to the ground. Roof cam gives nice overview therefore gives me the best feel for track and vehicle dimensions.
yes, I can imagine how you feel on this way. You should try Mario Kart or similar. I think it will be more accurate to yours expectations. You don't like simulation, unless you drive your real car from the roof as well.
@@marcrafa_rp 🤣🤡
I use cockpit view, but might try bumper to see if I get more speed.
It all depends for me. If i want to appreciate my car designs i dont do it during gameplay, but instead i appreciate them through watching race replays.
If i want to be competitive especially online, then ill use bumper cam.
If i want to showcase or feel immersed in a real driving experience then ill use cockpit.
Summary: appreciate car designs i watch TV style replay. Online/competitive driving i use bumper. Offline/casual showcase i use cockpit.
First person camera to me to race normal, and 3rd person for drift.
By the way, I didn't see no one talking but they made change in the roullette, my first ticket was a 4 star one... And i could won a Super Formula, Lambo Veneno, Tomahawk and the Aston Martin Vulcan, I won the Super formula.
Way much better than the 5k credits.
I use cockpit view myself but I'm torn between the offset angle or the default. I like how the default angle you can see out the side of your driver side but the offset angle you see your entire front window
Offset is not great for driving in imo!!
Honestly, it kinda depends on the car. The hood camera is probably my preferred option, but depending on the car, cockpit view is more than worth it. Number cam is cool also. It all comes down to preference!
Front bumper cam, gameplay feels so much faster n more fun than any other.
Do laptimes with the different views and see how much it actually impacts
Bumper is faster usually
Only cockpit. Now where is that HUD-toggle?
We need it!
@@Kireth No bæ. The lost logical and sinmple thing so inportant, even more so after VR, and it isn't there. They have been drinking petrol.
both bumper cams. in particular the one with mirror. With time you get a sense of the width of your car and also has less distractions... although for tracks with lots of elevations, its hard to see some apexes...
Would be nice if you could tune your real car to place your sit at the bumper. It would bring you much less distractions too.
I used to always use the 3de person view on racing games. But on gt7, i love the cockpit view. Altho I think that the bumper view has the best vantage point.
I use cockpit. I just played through the entire story with cockpit and no assist settings. It might cause more fails on average, but my successes feel cooler. I like how judging distances uses my real life driving instincts. When i try the front-car cams, it makes me feel like I'm gonna hit everything.
Kireth, you can adjust the up, down back and forth in psvr. However it has to be done in game which is annoying. Something’s they put me to close the wheels and I adjust to move back
I agree completely with you on the views, that's why I never use third, but bonnet view. Only thing chase is good for is seeing when I've completely passed cars
How do you get that gage on top?
At 3:55, how to turn that panel on the centre top of screen?
Only play in VR so cockpit for me but would also go cockpit on flatscreen. Don’t like being placed on the outside of the car. Too arcady for me
From.the offset with gtsport I've been using bumper cam with mirror . Personally want all that view coming at me. Cockpit is too restrictive and chase cam is too unrealistic. Even if I found myself more competitive in chase I could never use it as its just too "video game" as opposed to "sim racing game". Interestingly Tidgney (some of you may know was on for 3rd place in gtsport world champs until he got punted off track). He did a video testing all the different views. To his surprise he found bumper cam with mirror fastest, (a view he was not using at the gtsport world championships)
In flatscreen, bumper cam right on the front bumper, not hood view. WIth the camera near the deck, you also get the great mirror.
But.... these days I race in VR2 exclusively. I agree with you, it's FoV is more limited, but damn, it is immersive.
VR has to be the future!!
I wish polyphony would add field of view adjustments similar to Acc I like cockpit view simply for the realism
Dimmer switch for gauges *!
Yes, more zoom in option on cockpit view would be great
I’m all about cockpit and psvr2. Most immersive gaming experience I’ve ever had.
I always drive in cockpit view. But if i can absolutely not can win the race (for example Autopolis Formule at the moment) I wil drive whit the camera at the top of the roof . Becaus there are so many curves , you can not see who is on your left ore right site.
How to you have temperature on tyres?
Bonnet cam hands down , the one with a bit of bonnet or "hood" then camera view, love it
Been using the same cam as you since Gt5. Havent switched since. Use it for the exact same reasons. Up close n personal with the ability to still see the front sides of my car.
When I’m not using the hood cam I like the cockpit view, but I use the offset one where the rear view and driver side mirrors are more in your pov. It took some getting used to but its better than the normal cockpit pov imo
I have been a 3rd person driver for the past 25 years as a casual gamer who always played racing games for fun and wasn't a hardcore sim racer. That all changed when I fired up the PSVR2 a couple months ago with the Woojer Vest 3 and IEM headphones. So much fun and the killer VR app that changes everything! I am now so hooked that I plan to save up for a wheel, seat, and pedals. I think it is entirely possible to overcome most the downfalls you mentioned why you don't recommend the VR view. Some cars are worse than others with visibility. But with killer immersion of sound and haptics that rattle your core, the fun factor goes up exponentially. I have also exclusively used the gyroscope steering with a dual sense pro controller since I don't have a wheel. The only time I don't play in VR is when the Haptic Vest needs a charge and then I switch to Third person. I have a 144hz monitor so I get a visual upgrade. Still would trade that visual upgrade 100% of the time for being in the cockpit of these amazing vehicles.
I like bumper cam for precision and better visual feel of the road, and chase cam for gamemodes where u have to bump into cars, and cockpit view for vr only since immersion is the goal
i like cockpit view it makes me feel like i am in the car . the view is not right . the wide angle view is to small like all the other sim game. gran turismo say realty driving
so where i it realty driving . when i drive real car i can see with out moving my eye all three mirrors.and was playing it seen the cockpit veiw casme out on gran turismo . i try vr and veiw was like was in snow strom . and try the vr that different kind hookup and there was the snow strom angain. after that the ps vr 2 can and after the two vr i could not see paying a three vr the cost living is gone up so high with buy something today on budget no more high paying job he . but all the other go up in price . sow my best veiw is still cockpit . thank you the thought.
No worries man!
Hi, I just came across your channel with the keywords cockpit seen! Personally, I drive in a cockpit in racing as in Cruz! I feel more confident than on the hood! I even push the thing by activating oscillation 2. Camera movements 🎥 more realistic. In VR it must be insane!
i use psvr2, you can adjust were you are in the car with centering your view - center a little lower then you'll be and you'll be higher (pausing game required), i can not go back to tv but then again i'm not really a racer, I only race for money, i use the clutch and 6 gear shifter as often as possible unless the car in game uses steering shifting, But i love to cruise with a buddy in a party and do stuns like 180s
You forgot the one I use. The in between bumper hood roof and cockpit view. I call it the window view with a rear view mirror at the top (Can see nothing but the road). Been using it through all the GT games. Almost the same view as the bumper cam.
Admiring your cars is what the replay and the garage and photo modes are for.
Hi
I already have solid rig made of alu profiles, tgt2+tlcm. Currently, unfortunately, I only have a ps4 SSD, without the possibility of changing. It makes sense to play ACC ? Or is it so dramatically bad that it's not worth it???
Kireth, pls answer. Don't know what to do.
I totally agree on the view ahead on track being easier in 3rd person. I use the bumper view mostly when using my wheel set-up. Sometimes i have to change to the top of the hood view(roof) when I'm having difficulties seeing corners up ahead, and when elevations change going into corners. I've used cockpit view a few times, but without the VR headset, or a big TV screen, it's very limiting on what you're able to see.
Love the video man. Thanks for having the backs of the "other" guys lol
if bonnet view had a rear view mirror it would be perfect
goat view
As a pad player, I've got so much to say on this, I mainly use first person view with the mirror, however sometimes i use bonnet view at tracks like Bathurst and Tokyo Expressway when you need to use the extremities of the circuit, I use chase cam in Forza Horizon, FM and Driveclub Dashcam is the best cam in Driveclub its truely brilliant in the wet weather you should try that. I've tried using chase cam in GTS/GT7 it just loses all the immersion for me. Super GT used to get all sorts of flack for using chase cam in GTS/GT7.
What button is it to change camera
Front bumper view here. Like the location of instrumentation and rearview mirror. Would use cockpit view, but don't like seeing a wheel on the screen in front of my rig wheel. VR, which I don't use that much anymore due to VR sickness... cockpit view makes complete sense and works.
I like cockpit view the most but for some cars and in some challenges I switch to the bumper cam for more overview.
I used third person when I first started playing. When I got a wheel I started using the bumper cam where only the speedo showed. Mostly for the rear view mirror. The hood cam would probably have been better but no rear view. Recently using vr. I hope they add the leader board with the split times. It is nice to know where everyone is.
I raced for 1 year in Bumper view in GT Sport And GT7, often being faster than my friends racing cockpit view. But for authenticity I decided to start racing Cockpit view as we're trying to simulate racing, not cheat at it at the cost of our immersion? Now i race entirely in cockpit view in all sim racin titles and love it. Within 2 weeks I was just as fast as I was in Bumper view.
I use the “bumper” view with the mirror, but it’s not on the bumper. It’s higher up and further back, which you can tell when you’re right behind someone. I would guess it’s either supposed to be at the bottom of the windscreen or kind of two thirds of the way up the bonnet. I feel it gives the best view of the road, the rear view mirror is essential and the MFD is centred on the screen, which makes it much easier to change brake balance/traction control/fuel mapping without taking your attention away from the road. If you compare it to bumper cam on other sims/games you’ll notice the difference in position of the camera.
Hood ornament view
I’m with the bonnet/hood. I used to do 3rd person and then cockpit and still cockpit with some road cars because visibility seems to be better but first time in a gr1 or a super formula I forget which I switched to bonnet and it’s the best combo of visibility, precision and feel for me.
I appreciate your opinion, I use VR only these days as I play for the immersion.
Hope u enjoy it!!
I was always a 3rd person player in racing games like forza and so on. I picked this up recently and found using bumper/hood view much more easier and faster race with.
I would love an option to move the different parts on my screen.
The radar in the middle were a game changer for me
When using VR cockpit view is best but when you arent, hood view is best for this argument. The controller or wheel in front of you is your dash and the screen is the window there is no point to limit yourself further. However, i use 3rd person because i like it and im comfortable with it.