Adelaide SHOE BATTLE: UK AND SPAIN
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- What adelaide do you think is best? An in depth review of several things to look at when comparing high end shoes. All of these are winners. Compare shoes from Crockett and Jones, GAZIANO and Girling, George Cleverly, TLB Mallorca, Carmina Shoemakers, and J Fitzpatrick Footwear.
They all look amazing but I like how TLB's chisel last is a touch more rounded and "approachable".
Great comparison, thank you for sharing. Combining price and quality TLB would be the better choice.
It’s certainly worthy of consideration. I’m trying a couple more pairs to see if I still feel that way. They now have shoe trees on the Artista lasts... which is cool. Their trees are amazing on their own.
best value is the TLB based on the heel construction, narrower and contoured sole.
Ed et. AL also provides great value
I thought that G&G would dominate by far but the differences are very slight. I'd say G&G is first by a hair because of the clean back with no closing, then closely behind is Cleverley because of the better looking bottom sole work than TLB. Then just closely behind is TLB(which costs 600 less than G&G and 300 less than Cleverley. If one would paint TLB sole similar to other two brands it would be practicaly no way of telling which is the best one. Other brands far behind imo. It's either TLB really put out the best bargain of all times or other high end brands are ripping us. Gotta get myself a pair of TLBs asap 😁 but then again thats only what I can see, maybe you can point out differences we can't see but you can feel. Thanks for the video!
For a 30% up charge you can customize a TLB and dark brown JR soles are an option.
I’ll let you know on the feel as I get more wear on them. I received the TLBs only a few weeks before the pandemic and the GC and GG since. They need comparative wears like walking all day in NYC or San Francisco to really tell. I’ll update you.
@@wishoeguy Hi I seems to agree with Martin above comments. G & G from the video seems to best among all. TLB seems to offer the best value among all in terms of pricing.
Alternatively, in my opinion, buying a pair of shoes not only looking at the above video ways of comparison, colours, styles of the shoe, leather used to make, comfort level when you put on, the fit of the last on your leg, etc. For example, the model I like from Carmina may not be available in C N J, GG, etc. especially from Carmina MTO models. Although from what I understood that GC RTW are made by C N J, I still ll buy one Iconic model from GC - churchill is made by C N J. This model is very practical because I can wear a "loafer" with "laces" also come with U throat like the above video models. I share the same liking as Mr Winston Churchill and am sure many others too.
Last but not least update us your own ranking base your own criteria that is the most important basis of comparison.
Great video. Interesting that my TLB Artista adelaide has the full seam up the back without the small half seam like yours. I'm not sure either if that is an Artista only detail or if it depends on the model. I need to do a shoe comparison video too just to satisfy my own curiosity. I just haven't placed many of these models side by side like this. Good stuff my friend.
Thanks Michael. i've noticed a few brands now where they have the single piece no seam. HD, GG, PS.
Impressive collection!! Thanks for sharing your opinion!
My favorites are the GGs and the TLBs.
Really informative, love this style of video thank you!
I like to look at heel taper side on plus heel height and heel tightness vs heel cup
Great video! The leather on the Cleverly looks significantly thicker (unless it's just the camera angle). I'd love to know how they've all held up three years on.
Like new. They’re very sturdy.
I have just discovered your channel. Thank you very much for such an exhaustive analysis. Yes, they are all beautiful. I very much like the beautiful leather of the George Cleverly. I was not impressed by the Carmina. G&G may be excellent but I think is rather overpriced and therefore fit only for wealthy connoisseurs or wealthy, and stupid, snobs. Regards.
Not really a fan of the Carmina. Not because it doesnt look great, but because I dont like it when shoemakers label a leather 'llama' or 'russian reindeer' or some other rare skin, when its really just embossed calf. It feels misleading. Otherwise, dollar for dollar and pound for pound and aesthetically the Carmina wins in several areas over the rest for me. I like its smooth seemless curves, and I like the way the broguing continues uninterrupted in one long, clean sweeping line from the front of the adelaide to the rear of the shoe vs the way the broguing abruptly breaks angularly at the top of the eyelets on the other shoes.
I agree re the leather names. I specifically shared that suggestion with Carmina, that it’s misleading and if they want to name it something, don’t name it after an animal in the leather market.
Good video with very good information.
All shoes elegant
Fantastic battle and informative video shoe nerds love.
Great idea and fun comparaison but quite incomplete and a bit of comparing apple and oranges... would be nice to compare outsole quality and durability, upper leather quality, construction quality including stitching precision and broguing... I’d would assume G&G would dominate by a long shot. That said, G&G would not be the best shoes for the price... but please don’t compare G&G with FitzPatrick, Carmina and the others. Vass and G&G would be interesting to compare given the price difference when both used a lot of bespoke construction. Still great collection of shoes and an interesting video with lots to learn from. Very enjoyable.
thanks for your comment. I do get into stitch density, brogue size and more quantitative measurements as I compare just two shoes. I respectfully disagree with you on comparing shoes of variable quality and price ranges. I think it's important for folks to understand what differences exist between brands and why a shoe can cost $60 or $600 or $6000. By limiting comparisons to only shoes in the same class... i feel it perpetuates the mystery and the aim of this channel is to break down that mystery. Of course I'd compare driving a Toyota Corolla to a BMW X6 as well... something the car companies don't want us to do. That said, i don't want to take anything away from the craftsmanship of shoes in the $200, $400, $600, $800 or $1000+ categories. They're all important, as are the decisions one makes to choose between them.
Thanks for the video, I'm subscribing! Does GG have taller heel height or is it just my impression?
Great collection . Can you guide size differences on each one of them and some recommendation ?
I’m a size 10 in all of these but the GG and J Fitz I’m a 10.5. I need the room in the GG but the JF is a little big. Correction, I’m also a 10.5 in this Carmina Simpson because my feet are a scotch too wide for the 10 in Simpson.
Great content as always
All those are made with calf leather?
These are all calf leather.
Great brands in this video. Thanks for sharing!
The leather on the Carminas ;-)
Thank you for the very informative video. What last is the TLB Mallorca? And how does it compare to the Carmina Simpson last? Is it roomier in the front? I'm having a hard time filling the front of my shoes which results in excessive creasing on the vamp. The Simpson and Inca last are among the rarest lasts that match my feet.
Simpson and Inca are narrower lasts. This is the Picasso last. I’d go for a narrower width to make sure the forefoot is ok or size down if you can. I can sometimes size down but on some shoes, like CJ I can’t tolerate it because of width or length in certain areas. TLB offers a variety of widths on the customization tool. I’d write to them for specific advice.
@@wishoeguy thank you for the very quick reply! I'm actually already a half size down on both Simpson and Inca lasts (so 8.5 UK and E width) compared to my real size (measured using a Brannock device). Basically long feet, normal width, but not very "meaty" to fill anything :'( . I know from experience that 8.5 UK is the most I can go down before my toes hit the front of the shoes. I already wrote to Tony and I'm eager to receive his reply! Thanks again!
Good comparison! But you left the Portuguese and the Italians outs!!! Check out Bontoni, Scafora or Maccariell, you’ll be shocked!!l
Thanks. I have them and like them. I have playlists on the channel for each of these brands.
I'll take the G&G all day!
for these prices you can get vass or rozsnyai bespoke shoes. far better shoes than these.
Are the Allen Edmonds Adelaide shoes considered formal dress shoes?
It can’t be considered formal because it has brogueing. Even just a medallion takes formality down below formal (Tuxedo, black tie, etc). For modern business dress they’d be fine for nearly all occasions in the US. Each region has its own nuances though.
@@wishoeguy Thanks
@@wishoeguy Actually, what I meant to ask, 'are the Adelaide shoes dressy enough for first class business occasions?' thanks for your answer.
So first class business occasions is a little vague. I would wear them to a business meeting with my CEO and a client CEO but not to an investor day with the press and analysts. For that I would wear something without brogueing and probably only black.
@@wishoeguy better still, thanks
Are you the same size with these brands? And what size?
9.5 Uk or 10UK. 10 in Carmina, TLB and CJ. 9.5 in the rest.
@@wishoeguy Thanks! So Carmina is half a size big than TLB. Except the Simpson last
So is the “ butt crack” at the heel a sign of lesser quality or just a Spanish thing?
😂
It’s not lesser quality, it’s just not as skilled a clicker as some top tier brands that do it without a seam. I think of it as a difference between factory made and artisan made. It’s not bad, but solid is better.
@@wishoeguy thanks!! Now when I’m checking out some other guys shoes I don’t have to try and count threads per inch I’ll just look at the “clicker”. I just hope he doesn’t think I’m eyeing his arse.
Lol. I actually was thinking of starting an IG page under a$$shot Shoeguy... but chickened out.
Is the TLB a Wholecut Adelaide?
No. It’s a traditional Adelaide. None of these are faux adelaides with brogues on a wholecut.
Damn, you have such a fine shoe collection! I believe you are a US 11 (UK 10)....wanna sell me a pair ;-)
I appreciate the sentiment but I’m not selling any right now. I’ll keep that in mind during my next purge.
@@wishoeguy Sorry - got a bit green eyed there. I enjoy your content and I learn a lot form you videos. Best wishes
Tony
sadly a lot of shoes don't offer grown man sizes, but you are lucky, you can fit the kid sizes.
Lol. Still have trouble buying them in some regions but yes, an 11 is much easier to find than a 18 or 20. Those are tough.
@@wishoeguy i am only 15, but a lot of brands don't offer
those. can't get thomas bird, vass shoes, tlb, etc.
Does anyone know what shoe model is the Carmina? I would really appreciate your comment.
80610 Simpson. I customized the leather, last, and sole.
To find all my shoes please use the playlists. If you search my playlists for Carmina you’ll find all the videos with Carmina shoes. Model numbers included.
J fitzpatrick uses the cheapest leather! Surprised! :/
Man you really can tell that tlb borrowed its looks from both the GG and the Cleverly
I don’t know if borrowed is fair. My understanding is that the Cleverly was the first cap toe Adelaide... so it served as inspiration for all others.
All I saw in this video are different dimensions.
Crockett wins for me. Based on look alone/
I am from Europe but live in the US. The more I see european shoes, the more I like Allen Edmonds. These are real men's shoes and not so overly refined / overdesigned.... Agree??
The lack of design can be intriguing but after wearing them for 20 years I do enjoy wearing some European alternatives.
Allen Edmonds produces by FAR the ugliest quality shoes I've ever seen. I'd rather not wear shoes than wear AE. So unbalanced and clumsy looking that I want to rip my eye balls out as soon as I lay eyes on them.
First Comment!
Great video but you have to work on the audio. The sound of breathing was very overpowering. I can hear the saliva in your mouth. But as I said, the actual content is fantastic. Keep it up.
Try usurping good quality English when describing good quality shoes. The number 20 is not pronounced “twenny” (like penny).
It is pronounced “twenty” (like plenty).
Thank you for your feedback. I will work on enunciation.
Excuse my typo in my comment. “Try usurping...” should have read “Try using...” .
Nice show review. Keep up that good work.