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  • @kali3665
    @kali3665 4 роки тому +225

    Seven's nastiest moment, and probably the darkest moment of any of the Doctors. This was a great scene. Really shows what McCoy and Aldred were capable of - another reason why I was so sorry that the original series ended so soon after this.

    • @Zneelsen
      @Zneelsen 4 роки тому +17

      It maybe one of his nastiest moments on television; but on audio it barely touches his scheming nature. It’s a shame we didn’t get his true colours on tv due to the show’s cancellation. Then again, we have the audios for that.

    • @jellybabiesarecool4657
      @jellybabiesarecool4657 2 роки тому +7

      Luckily the VNA books and many Big Finish audios continue these character themes.

    • @paulflint6254
      @paulflint6254 Рік тому +4

      @@jellybabiesarecool4657 They certainly do. I love the books

    • @jayanderson9375
      @jayanderson9375 Рік тому +2

      Magnificent They are so talented! So well done that I can’t watch it again

  • @Allancarlostani
    @Allancarlostani 4 роки тому +134

    Now THAT is a great plot twist.
    And also one of the darkest moments of any Doctor in the series.

  • @ShameleonFactor
    @ShameleonFactor 4 роки тому +165

    McCoy and Aldred are gold in this scene.

    • @bondfool
      @bondfool 2 роки тому

      The clip at the end is pretty great, too.

    • @ruairievans
      @ruairievans Рік тому +1

      They're Ace!

  • @TheBirdOfParadox
    @TheBirdOfParadox 4 роки тому +109

    This scene still stands as one of the most powerful scenes for both Ace and Seven in their entire run. Doctor Who at its best.

  • @aarothewanderer5549
    @aarothewanderer5549 4 роки тому +131

    The curse of fenric is bloody brilliant story from the classic series

  • @davidtanycoed
    @davidtanycoed 4 роки тому +89

    Sophie Aldred mentioned in the dvd extras that cast and crew nicknamed this set as the nipple factory 🤣🤣🤣

  • @heatherorr2116
    @heatherorr2116 4 роки тому +51

    Ace is the companion who made you feel brave. She’s so stunning in this scene as is the way her faith in the doctor is portrayed

  • @stephenmurphy2212
    @stephenmurphy2212 4 роки тому +197

    Wouldn’t be the last time the Doctor broke one of his companions spirit to save her life.

    • @ftumschk
      @ftumschk 4 роки тому +55

      Or the first... I'm thinking about the Doctor winding up Sarah when she got stuck in the service duct in "Ark in Space"

    • @isaacc7
      @isaacc7 4 роки тому +15

      Wouldn’t even be the last time he broke Ace. In the novel Love and War he finally pushed Ace past her breaking point. Big Finish did a pretty good version. I think Sophie’s acting has improved a lot over the years, you can hear it in this trailer for Love and War. www.bigfinish.com/releases/popout/doctor-who-love-and-war-776

    • @jmann6130
      @jmann6130 3 роки тому +16

      @@isaacc7 Love and War is a classic moment in Doctor Who and a huge moment in Ace's life where she leaves the Doctor and then returns as a Ripley type Dalek killer to bad they didn't adapt Deceit to explain her reunion with the Doctor and Benny (who were a great team by the way!)

    • @paulflint6254
      @paulflint6254 Рік тому

      @@jmann6130 true

    • @10Peter25
      @10Peter25 Рік тому +9

      @@ftumschk That was a brilliant manipulation of human psychology. Sometimes when a person is in a survival situation, sheer rage can be the driving force that inspires them to find a way out of their predicament. The Doctor knew that when he made Sarah Jane want to kick his ass so badly that she pulled herself through the service duct after she first thought she would never get unstuck. Her desire to strangle the Doctor overcame her initial despair. (Not to mention the adrenaline boost her anger gave her.)

  • @raiftadehara9218
    @raiftadehara9218 4 роки тому +78

    The truth about Ace is she is my favorite

  • @amysmileyreid95
    @amysmileyreid95 Рік тому +64

    7 could be almost evil at times. He’s comes across as quiet, unassuming and bumbling but he was dark. Always in total control, cool as a cucumber.

  • @AndrewChapman
    @AndrewChapman 4 роки тому +206

    "She is your mother!"
    "No! NO! THAT'S NOT TRUE! THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!"
    "Search your feelings. You know it to be true."
    "NOOOOOOOOO!! Noooooooooo!!"

  • @benbastianiartmusic1421
    @benbastianiartmusic1421 4 роки тому +45

    I legit think they should make a film about Sylvester and the end of the classic series like they did with An Adventure in Space and Time

  • @raptorfae.6645
    @raptorfae.6645 4 роки тому +45

    Even though he doesn't show it to save her,seven was basically the only parental figure ace ever trusted, behind the facade of the fool and despite his many manipulative and sometimes even malevolent plans,seven has a heart of gold.

  • @theycallmejojo6090
    @theycallmejojo6090 4 роки тому +31

    Sylvester McCoy
    The 4D chess Doctor

  • @davidtanycoed
    @davidtanycoed 4 роки тому +17

    The Blu Ray Boxset for this story alone is worth every penny spent - even just for the extras. Everything about this story from script, costume and performances is WHO at its best. Not one performance is at fault or outdone. Though I was transfixed by Commander Millington - Alfred Lynch, I wish we saw more from him. JUDSON: The machine can do it, .... This is the first. In the future there'll be many more computing machines, thinking machines.
    MILLINGTON: Yes, but whose thoughts will they think?

  • @MatthewsStopMotions
    @MatthewsStopMotions 4 роки тому +47

    The 7th doctor was so sneaky

    • @patchworkfellow
      @patchworkfellow 4 роки тому +1

      Agreed...

    • @mrjekyllandhyde9941
      @mrjekyllandhyde9941 4 роки тому +4

      one day he'll become so sneaky
      even he won't know what he's planning.
      (listen to the magic Mousetrap B.F)

  • @markhodgson2348
    @markhodgson2348 4 роки тому +20

    Sophie and Sylvester are so good as a pair

  • @danielwilliamson6180
    @danielwilliamson6180 Рік тому +13

    One of Doctor Who's darkest scenes. Powerful and well-acted.

  • @Jayfive276
    @Jayfive276 4 роки тому +36

    The truth that she’s Best Girl? Already knew that 😁

    • @mrjekyllandhyde9941
      @mrjekyllandhyde9941 4 роки тому +7

      what are Daleks afraid
      of ?
      Ace with a Baseball bat mainly Lol
      (remembrance of the Daleks)

  • @kitbrown3895
    @kitbrown3895 4 роки тому +6

    This is so good, one of my favourite doctor who stories of all time, acting and script absolutely on point

  • @RBenjo21
    @RBenjo21 4 роки тому +8

    Reuploaded in HD. I think they’ve done a wonderful job upscaling OB video. Stunning.

  • @LewysC
    @LewysC 4 роки тому +4

    The Doctor Who channel is finally uploading some of the biggest clips 👏

  • @hellothere2052
    @hellothere2052 4 роки тому +10

    Ace is one of my favourite companions, I love at Childhood’s end

  • @MetaCinemaYT
    @MetaCinemaYT Рік тому +17

    This reminds me of the scene in The God Complex when the Doctor had to rid Amy of her faith in him by saying he can't save her and convincing her he's responsible for stealing her childhood and leading her to her death.

  • @Peacemoon-TreeofHope
    @Peacemoon-TreeofHope 5 місяців тому +1

    This is the absolute best of classic Who. I can’t praise it enough. So sad the show was cancelled after this series because it was really coming into its own.

  • @richallenxbox1976
    @richallenxbox1976 Рік тому +2

    6 months ago I met Sophie at Elsecar comic con, she's 60 now but she's still gorgeous.

  • @LeanderHall
    @LeanderHall 4 місяці тому +2

    This might sound a bit gun - ho but it is nice to watch this knowing that it meant that the Viking raiders had their revenge on Fenric in the end. The ancient Haemovore was their final descendant.

  • @AndrewHsieh96
    @AndrewHsieh96 4 роки тому +5

    One of the darkest moments of the Classic era.

  • @juicebirdmedia1406
    @juicebirdmedia1406 Рік тому +1

    This is so great!

  • @jonL88
    @jonL88 4 роки тому

    One of my favourite moments!

  • @soopr3462
    @soopr3462 4 роки тому +5

    Is this the one with the vampire people and the town gets over run? If so I freakin loved this as a kid

  • @dnf-dead
    @dnf-dead Рік тому +3

    I really liked Ace as a companion... not a damsel in distress

  • @philltolkien5082
    @philltolkien5082 Рік тому +3

    I had a crush on Ace. My fav assistant.

  • @RopeDrink
    @RopeDrink 10 місяців тому +1

    Curse of Fenric is still my No.1 DW story, but I wouldn't recommend it as first-time viewing -- because it works best if you've been following 7+Ace throughout S25+S26. Having said that, it's 100 minutes of creepy Lovecraftian horror, and the backdrop of WW2 is always a favourite of mine. Great performances, excellent one-off monsters, an impressive body count, fantastic side characters, viking curses, code-cracking, and plenty of memorable moments. The final moments of episode 3 are deliciously spine-chilling

  • @jellybabiesarecool4657
    @jellybabiesarecool4657 2 роки тому +2

    This is why 7 is my favourite Doctor

    • @thecoolman7375
      @thecoolman7375 2 роки тому +1

      than why do you have a tom baker profile?

  • @lewiskent550
    @lewiskent550 4 роки тому +11

    Season 27 should have happened

  • @bkwalkabout
    @bkwalkabout 4 роки тому +2

    My first and favorite Companion!

  • @swiftbird4846
    @swiftbird4846 6 місяців тому

    The Machiavellian Master at his finest. Brilliant stuff.

  • @SirSX3
    @SirSX3 8 місяців тому

    I was very young when my country's aired reruns of the seventh doctor's adventures in the run up to the TV movie. I couldn't have been more than 2 or 3 when I first saw the adventures of the Seventh Doctor and Ace. I don't remember much, but I did remember when the Doctor "turned evil". My English wasn't very good at the time, so I didn't really understand what's happening, but did understand "kill her", and I remembered being horrified because I thought the Doctor has turned bad. I'm still not sure if this is the scene I remembered, but this must have been it. I remembered how much I liked the Doctor, and how much of a role model he was to me. The fact that he was not a physical or violent hero spoke to me. He's the reason why Prof X was my favourite X-Men, and not Wolverine like most of my friends, and he's probably the reason why I studied Mathematics and hope to become a Doctor or Professor one day

  • @HappyBear376
    @HappyBear376 3 роки тому +5

    I was ever so in love with her when I was little.

  • @babachacha8214
    @babachacha8214 3 роки тому +8

    I thought they should do a spin off show with ace as a detective solving alien mystery’s. It’ll be good to bring old villains e.g autons, seadevils and maybe a cyber man

  • @user-hd9nc7zp1v
    @user-hd9nc7zp1v 2 місяці тому +1

    The one who waits perhaps or a pantheon?😮

  • @Dim4323
    @Dim4323 9 місяців тому

    7th is simply a Malipulant chessmaster.
    He knew how to plan the move.

  • @familiekimpfler4481
    @familiekimpfler4481 4 роки тому +9

    I Love doctor who

  • @MissGarland1986
    @MissGarland1986 4 роки тому +2

    Are you able to upload the whole of The Curse of Fenric?

    • @thedestiny326
      @thedestiny326 2 роки тому

      That would be illegal to upload it

  • @markoneill2973
    @markoneill2973 7 місяців тому +1

    No chance this could be linked to Ruby's origin?

  • @jetstream222
    @jetstream222 4 роки тому +2

    3:43 that’s a bit harsh

  • @fantomonline
    @fantomonline 4 роки тому

    Classic story!

  • @cdname47
    @cdname47 4 роки тому +11

    "I have faith in you professor"
    Well that's going to do you no good ace, try having faith in THE DOCTOR instead

  • @IsaacWhittakerDakin
    @IsaacWhittakerDakin 4 роки тому +2

    This wibbly wobbly timey wimey would put Steven Moffat to shame!

  • @paulshorney3465
    @paulshorney3465 Рік тому +2

    When doctor who was great 👍

  • @retardbingo5408
    @retardbingo5408 4 роки тому +4

    Ace is still a hottie

  • @chaos_holder
    @chaos_holder Рік тому

    Running through time with my nitro nine

  • @jessetorres8738
    @jessetorres8738 4 роки тому +24

    It's like the Timeless Child twist but done well/doesn't change the series' continuity.

    • @peterkorman77
      @peterkorman77 4 роки тому +9

      Doctor Who barely has a continuity, even before The Timeless Children. There’s been a ton of heavy contradiction for decades in the lore.

    • @mrjekyllandhyde9941
      @mrjekyllandhyde9941 4 роки тому +1

      @@peterkorman77 "anything can be changed" logic, pisses me off

    • @eirei0789
      @eirei0789 4 роки тому +3

      @@peterkorman77 So you're saying that future DW can just ignore The Timeless Children? Perfect.

  • @craigchampagne7797
    @craigchampagne7797 2 роки тому +1

    Sophie Aldred. Ace.

  • @savethetrees7039
    @savethetrees7039 4 роки тому +2

    Ooooh no
    Issa spoopy seaman

  • @techmaster1769
    @techmaster1769 4 роки тому +41

    Ah yes, the time when doctor who was just a TV series. Now its a culture.

    • @mrjekyllandhyde9941
      @mrjekyllandhyde9941 4 роки тому +6

      I Watched Dr Who before it was cool

    • @mrjekyllandhyde9941
      @mrjekyllandhyde9941 4 роки тому

      @David Blyth fair point, but we used to get called "nerds" for watching it, now ya just get mocked for liking bad Dr Who which still implies that earlier Dr Who is cool.

    • @davinmorn6802
      @davinmorn6802 3 роки тому +1

      @@mrjekyllandhyde9941 eh. I've tried introducing 6 different friends to the show over the past 2 years and the response I get every time without fail goes along the lines of 'No, it's lame gay and/or shit.' Kind of hard to prove them wrong when the majority of the modern show is what it is.

    • @CMOT101
      @CMOT101 3 роки тому +2

      Er no. It has always been a British institution.

  • @FactionParadox2090
    @FactionParadox2090 5 місяців тому

    God this scene was so dark.

  • @blobfish5730
    @blobfish5730 4 роки тому +2

    nice

  • @joeltrussler2285
    @joeltrussler2285 3 роки тому +3

    How would people react If the Doctor did this to Their Companion in Nuwho

    • @MidnightChimey
      @MidnightChimey 3 роки тому +9

      Well we had a softer version of this scene in The God Complex, but it was not nearly so brutal

    • @RopeDrink
      @RopeDrink 11 місяців тому

      @@MidnightChimeyIf that's the one with 11, Amy, and the Minotaur, I believe the door has the number "7" on it - likely referencing that it's the same overall gist as what 7 does to Ace, even though this one is certainly nastier.

    • @MidnightChimey
      @MidnightChimey 11 місяців тому

      @@RopeDrink Oh I never noticed that, subtle if that was in any way deliberate

  • @matthorn1710
    @matthorn1710 Рік тому +5

    I can't think of a dark moment in New Who that compares to this one. It is literally The Doctor destroying a companion's faith.

  • @crazyburkey3677
    @crazyburkey3677 Рік тому

    An odd rendition of "I am my own Grandpa" 🤔🙁🤣

  • @patchworkfellow
    @patchworkfellow 4 роки тому +6

    McCoy reminds me of Rowan Atkinson... anyone else?

    • @jonL88
      @jonL88 4 роки тому +1

      Cosmo 456 More like Ian McDiarmid 😂

    • @mrjekyllandhyde9941
      @mrjekyllandhyde9941 4 роки тому

      I wonder how many people are aware that the "never cowardly" line that Peter Capaldi is famous for actually originated in the curse of fatal death with Rowan Atkinson (comic relief) which was originally spoken by actress Julia Sawalha

    • @thecoolman7375
      @thecoolman7375 2 роки тому

      does colin baker count?

  • @rjmcallister1888
    @rjmcallister1888 4 роки тому +5

    In the time before CGI, when writing and acting were still paramount.

    • @atlassolid5946
      @atlassolid5946 Рік тому +1

      the 80s is when cgi was taking over everything. i think you have your decades mixed up

    • @billthewhovian
      @billthewhovian Рік тому

      Building on what @AtlasSolid said well, kind of any way, CGI was around back then you only have to look at the intro for Doctor Who back then to see an example of CGI in fact it was the first fully CGI title sequence in the world. Yes it was awful by today's standards but it was CGI none the less and considered ground breaking at the time. Not bad for a show with a really tight budget.
      Also just to be clear I like the CGI titles just because they haven't aged well doesn't mean what they did is lost. I love what they did with them. It's just that they can do it so much better these days and some one has a man by the name of David Burgess recreated them and if you haven't seen it I'd recommend you search for it just search for either David Burgess or 7th Doctor intro remake and you should find it.

    • @rjmcallister1888
      @rjmcallister1888 Рік тому

      @@billthewhovian Not the kind of CGI we have today. The effects of the late 70's and 80's are considered primitive to today's.

    • @billthewhovian
      @billthewhovian Рік тому

      @@rjmcallister1888 Yeah I see your point and get your meaning. Just the way your initial post read it seemed like you ment there was no CGI whatsoever. But now I get what you mean by no CGI. None of the type of CGI we see today in that case I understand where you're coming from now, they certainly didn't have CGI in that form just pure acting and practical effects which I appreciate more if I'm honest. It may not look as good as CGI can but the effort alone gets my praise.

  • @jodim5384
    @jodim5384 4 роки тому +2

    What happened to Ace

    • @EditedAF987
      @EditedAF987 4 роки тому +3

      calvin the person many things. There were various ways she left the TARDIS but she established a charity called A Charitable Earth through a savings account she created in the 1940’s

    • @JB-ym4up
      @JB-ym4up 4 роки тому +1

      She's last seen in a fan film from 2019 on Dr who velocity. Yes its actually Sophie Aldren actually playing Ace.

    • @mrjekyllandhyde9941
      @mrjekyllandhyde9941 4 роки тому +2

      @@JB-ym4up she's been in many Big Finish Dr Who adventures since

    • @michaelpuglisi6767
      @michaelpuglisi6767 2 роки тому

      Comics, novels, and audios all come up with different exits and final fates for her character, almost none of which are compatible.

  • @DalekCaanOfSkaro
    @DalekCaanOfSkaro 4 роки тому

    How many comments has Scotty Bee made?

  • @balaclavatheslidegod1469
    @balaclavatheslidegod1469 Рік тому

    😍

  • @abigailwildlife1322
    @abigailwildlife1322 4 роки тому

    What is occurring I haven't watched classic who

    • @rawyld
      @rawyld 4 роки тому +1

      You need to watch Dragonfire episode to be explained for this one

    • @mrjekyllandhyde9941
      @mrjekyllandhyde9941 4 роки тому +1

      @@rawyld "time for a quick adventure then back for tea"

    • @rawyld
      @rawyld 4 роки тому

      @@mrjekyllandhyde9941 ACE!

  • @GrimmShadowsII
    @GrimmShadowsII 4 роки тому +23

    People tend to complain about Mcoy's run saying it was bad. Scenes like this shows it was a hell of alot better then Whitiker's run I couldn't even make it through her second season

    • @SpectrumStorms
      @SpectrumStorms 4 роки тому +9

      I'd also add that this story (as well as S26) is honestly better than most of Classic Who. Even peak Tom Baker doesn't compare.

    • @GrimmShadowsII
      @GrimmShadowsII 4 роки тому

      I'll admit I haven't seen much of Mcoy's run I just know it's reputation probably earned by him being the last Doctor before it's first cancellation and stories like Ghostlight, I think that's what it was called, that were so bad the actors themselves have said they had no idea what whas going on.

    • @GermanLeftist
      @GermanLeftist 4 роки тому +4

      @@GrimmShadowsII Ghost Light is one of the best serials of all time. But it is also the most confusing. It was written as a four parter and was cut down to a three parter, leading to a lot of exposition being lost. You basically have to deduce what is going on all on your own, without the episodes actually telling you. It helps a lot to watch the thing two times in a row or to watch the extras before actually watching the episode.

    • @mrjekyllandhyde9941
      @mrjekyllandhyde9941 4 роки тому +2

      @@GermanLeftist Ghost Light is a great story but gets a lot of dislikes because people don't understand it

    • @Telos1807
      @Telos1807 4 роки тому +6

      You could make a strong argument that those last two seasons were the best seasons since Hinchcliffe's time.
      And you should because bar Silver Nemesis, those 8 stories are all brilliant even if Ghost Light is a little confusing.

  • @gussyt1761
    @gussyt1761 4 роки тому +3

    Getting some NuWho vibes here

    • @CMOT101
      @CMOT101 3 роки тому +2

      No. Don't compare it to that crap.

    • @andrewmanchiraju8005
      @andrewmanchiraju8005 Рік тому +1

      I know this is two years old but this is sentiment that I’ve seen some of tue community hold now. The idea that the 7th doctor is not the last Classic doctor but is more similar to the modern doctors and in fact I believe that RTD likely took a lot of inspiration from this era when crafting his incarnations who would have their inner darkness more pronounced.

  • @garfield2317
    @garfield2317 4 роки тому +1

    I made the 10th doctor as my avatar in roblox my user name is chef_troopa in roblox

  • @thesnakeman8006
    @thesnakeman8006 11 місяців тому +1

    Now, although she's NEVER done any nudity or sex scenes throughout her career, I believe that sophie aldred was slowly becoming one of many british sex symbols in that era.

  • @carolinesmith6450
    @carolinesmith6450 4 роки тому +3

    Right. Well I had heard of Ace and remembered her from another programme so when this popped up I thought why not that looks interesting.
    Out of context. This clips contains multi faceted levels of abusive. With absolutely no warning.
    And not everybody who watches these videos has access to the context. Because doctor who has been going on for nearly 60 years.
    Not everybody knows every single story line.
    So you either need to warn people, explain at the end what actually ended up happening. Or you need to seriously consider the impact that uploading a video like this can have.

    • @davidtanycoed
      @davidtanycoed 4 роки тому +1

      Caroline This story is WHO at its best, if you have not seen it then please do as you will not be disappointed. However, you are correct. They have cut this uploaded scene too short, had they let the scene conclude it would of included the context it requires (literally 30 seconds more) . It has a very poignant conclusion

    • @carolinesmith6450
      @carolinesmith6450 4 роки тому

      I said what I said and I meant what I meant.
      Just having a brief look down at all the general comments on this video as well. Struck by how diverse it appears to be! Such a wealth and breadth of opinions and life experiences you are likely to have.
      Seems like most demographics who use youtube are fully represented here. So there's no more work for me to do. As in. I will be making no more further comments on this particular issue, on this particular video.
      This particular clip. Which is the only clip relevant here. As that's what this comment section is under. Is it not?
      So do feel free to fight and chortle amongst yourselves if that is what you would like to do. You're free to use your time as you wish.
      As am I. And my part in this particular conversation. On this particular video. In the comment section under this particular video, remember. My part ends here for me.
      Enjoy the rest of your day :)

    • @mrjekyllandhyde9941
      @mrjekyllandhyde9941 4 роки тому +2

      TRIGGER WARNING Lol

    • @CMOT101
      @CMOT101 3 роки тому +3

      Oh grow up. This was broadcast early evening on tv. We didn't need a warning then. We were expected to use common sense.

    • @TheZodiacz
      @TheZodiacz 2 роки тому +3

      sounds like some big baby needs a safe space

  • @Concreteowl
    @Concreteowl 2 роки тому

    The score is really awful it ruins a great story.

    • @michaelpuglisi6767
      @michaelpuglisi6767 2 роки тому +2

      Probably the third best score in the series, for my money

    • @Concreteowl
      @Concreteowl 2 роки тому

      @@michaelpuglisi6767 in that particular year maybe. But it's so intrusive and dated I wish there were unscored versions available.

    • @CountScarlioni
      @CountScarlioni Рік тому

      As far as I'm concerned, The Curse of Fenric score is excellent.

    • @RopeDrink
      @RopeDrink Рік тому

      Love the score -- especially "Exit Miss Hardakter / The Vicar and the Vampires". If you listen closely enough, it sounds like there are creepy whispers on the wind (as the Haemovores stalk the Reverend), the faint church bells ringing sends shivers. You can say it's "Dated", but "Awful" I will never agree with.

  • @alicemayee512
    @alicemayee512 4 роки тому +2

    I hope she dies quickly. It is totally boring the new series with the female version. I loved all parts of Doctor Who, but that was a bust... 😭😭