Putting this song in the end would make a lot of sense instead of starting from the beginning and transform into a different side of a many stories from the timeline of every song lyrics and the album too!
Watched this just after your first video on Frances the Mute! Didn't mention this in my comment on the first one, but a detail that differs between my interpretation and yours is what the Church wanted done with the baby - I think they tried to force Vismund’s mother to abort the baby and killed her for keeping him. I also think the title track is the strongest evidence for Frances being the name of Vismund’s birth mother - it's directly about what happened to her and titled after her.
Musically I would say the track belongs at the beginning before Cygnus. The reasoning is as follows, the album begins and ends with a sarcophagi movement (‘the ocean floor is hidden…”). It bookends the album. Frances the mute ends teasing sarcophagi, and it blends naturally into the beginning of Cygnus. If you haven’t listened to it this way then I’d recommend doing it, it makes Cygnus hit so much harder
I love your interpretation of TMV albums. This song makes sense story wise to fit at the end of the album. But what are your thoughts on the instrumentation? It flows nicely into the start of the album and makes sense instrumentally to belong as the intro. Maybe more of the non-linear writing? Also, if you want to listen to another concept metal album with dark, complex lyrics, check out the album Hubardo by Kayo Dot. And if you want to listen to my favorite album of all time (also with incredible lyrics), listen to Choirs of the Eye by Kayo Dot.
I thought I’d the instrumentation as maybe a reprise of the intro to the album. It would make sense to put this song at the beginning but I put it at the end to make it fit better with storyline I had going on lol. Thanks for watching, and I’ll check out Kayo Dot!
Wonderful interpretation! I find a lot of the stories in these albums inspiring. I hope to one day write a story as fascinating and trippy as the stories in these albums. 😊
You do a good interpretation of the record and the story. I read some of the other interpretations and it's interesting. I heard a different version years ago- It was based on a graphic novel from the science fiction point of view. Honestly, I like the diary found from the repo car guy. .. and that they had a similar life to the character in this horrific tale. When I initially listen to it I thought it was a Frank Zappa record~ I never knew the words. Unspeakable sins and persecution from a Catholic Church and personal tragedy was a surprise to me. Hope that history doesn't repeat itself.
I saw TMV in 2005. It is a dream in death. I am not catholic. So I have a hard time following some of this stuff, but I really love it. how can you tell someone anything in the afterlife. Even in purgatory. If there is a waiting room I hope my brother is waiting for me, for I don't have a key. Hahaha.
I think you got it for sure. However, as far as him being trapped forever i disagree. He continues to live the story over and again. He is trapped due to his lack of forgiveness and lack of willingness to let it go. You ever see the movie Memento? The song FTM fades perfectly into in C..VS. Not because its the start, it is the end, but its a loop. Just like The man that you fear, on Antichrist Superstar. It IS the last song, but its also the start of the new loop. Vismond is doomed to live his story over and over again in the afterlife. Its not reincarnation, its punishment. Its hell. Its the punishment he dishes onto himself. FTM as a story is Vismonds personal hell. Just like deloused in the comatorium is Cerpin's.
This is my favorite song from the mars volta.
It’s a very underrated song. I admit I don’t listen to it as much as it deserves.
“Mingle with the carnivores
You’ve something both in common now” I feel like he was referring to “guilty by association”
Putting this song in the end would make a lot of sense instead of starting from the beginning and transform into a different side of a many stories from the timeline of every song lyrics and the album too!
Watched this just after your first video on Frances the Mute! Didn't mention this in my comment on the first one, but a detail that differs between my interpretation and yours is what the Church wanted done with the baby - I think they tried to force Vismund’s mother to abort the baby and killed her for keeping him.
I also think the title track is the strongest evidence for Frances being the name of Vismund’s birth mother - it's directly about what happened to her and titled after her.
Also, I saw the mars Volta in Dallas back in September 2022 and it was incredible 🎉
I saw them in Atlanta. One of the best shows I’ve ever been to!!
Musically I would say the track belongs at the beginning before Cygnus. The reasoning is as follows, the album begins and ends with a sarcophagi movement (‘the ocean floor is hidden…”). It bookends the album. Frances the mute ends teasing sarcophagi, and it blends naturally into the beginning of Cygnus. If you haven’t listened to it this way then I’d recommend doing it, it makes Cygnus hit so much harder
I hadn’t realized that, I’ll have give it a listen with that in mind. Thank you for sharing!!
good video
I love your interpretation of TMV albums. This song makes sense story wise to fit at the end of the album. But what are your thoughts on the instrumentation? It flows nicely into the start of the album and makes sense instrumentally to belong as the intro. Maybe more of the non-linear writing?
Also, if you want to listen to another concept metal album with dark, complex lyrics, check out the album Hubardo by Kayo Dot. And if you want to listen to my favorite album of all time (also with incredible lyrics), listen to Choirs of the Eye by Kayo Dot.
I thought I’d the instrumentation as maybe a reprise of the intro to the album. It would make sense to put this song at the beginning but I put it at the end to make it fit better with storyline I had going on lol.
Thanks for watching, and I’ll check out Kayo Dot!
Wonderful interpretation! I find a lot of the stories in these albums inspiring. I hope to one day write a story as fascinating and trippy as the stories in these albums. 😊
I’d love to read it if you do!
Digging the perspective! Have you thought of doing The Bedlam in Goliath story?
It’s definitely on my list!
Perfect.
You do a good interpretation of the record and the story. I read some of the other interpretations and it's interesting.
I heard a different version years ago- It was based on a graphic novel from the science fiction point of view.
Honestly, I like the diary found from the repo car guy.
.. and that they had a similar life to the character in this horrific tale.
When I initially listen to it I thought it was a Frank Zappa record~ I never knew the words. Unspeakable sins and persecution from a Catholic Church and personal tragedy was a surprise to me. Hope that history doesn't repeat itself.
Still ha e my Mexican chocolate from the 2005 El paso show!!!
I saw TMV in 2005. It is a dream in death. I am not catholic. So I have a hard time following some of this stuff, but I really love it. how can you tell someone anything in the afterlife. Even in purgatory. If there is a waiting room I hope my brother is waiting for me, for I don't have a key. Hahaha.
Interesting. It's a refreshing theory.
Thank you! It’s probably way off from what the band really had in mind, but I had fun trying to make sense of the song.
Got tx to see TMV in Los Angeles!!
Last night of 3 shows, hopefully Cedrics voice will hold up!
I’m really curious how their live performance will be after all this time. Can’t wait to see them on this tour!
Great album. Used to have the red slip case vinyl. 😢sold it. Regretted it ever since
"This never happened"
I think you got it for sure. However, as far as him being trapped forever i disagree. He continues to live the story over and again. He is trapped due to his lack of forgiveness and lack of willingness to let it go. You ever see the movie Memento? The song FTM fades perfectly into in C..VS. Not because its the start, it is the end, but its a loop. Just like The man that you fear, on Antichrist Superstar. It IS the last song, but its also the start of the new loop.
Vismond is doomed to live his story over and over again in the afterlife. Its not reincarnation, its punishment. Its hell. Its the punishment he dishes onto himself. FTM as a story is Vismonds personal hell. Just like deloused in the comatorium is Cerpin's.
I love this!! Definitely a little darker interpretation but it totally fits.
Frances The Mute is the b side to The Widow, it is not a bonus track.