Windows 7 SP1 Phone Performance Envelope Test

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  • Опубліковано 16 вер 2021
  • Testing the capability of a phone with an Intel Atom Z600 CPU and onboard GPU with a TDP of only 1.3 Watts. Despite the tiny CPU, this phone gets hot and drains the battery. But can it run software such as games? Benchmarking with PCMark7 and 3DMark03 reveals the ability of using the Fujitsu F-07C running on an x86 CPU.
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    F-07C Overclocking Guide
    snow-okami.com/wordpress/?p=45
    MANTANTV - Windows7ケータイ「F-07C」 ドコモ2011夏モデル紹介
    • Windows7ケータイ「F-07C」 ドコ...
    Fujitsu Introduces Windows® 7 F-07C Mobile Phone
    www.fujitsu.com/global/about/...
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 142

  • @georgeadrianstefan1676
    @georgeadrianstefan1676 Рік тому +111

    Watching this on a handheld device that has 12GB of RAM, 128GB storage, an octa-core 2.9GHz CPU, just thinking how much computers evolved all these years.

  • @Ithirahad
    @Ithirahad 2 роки тому +132

    Wacky device concept, but the aesthetic design is seriously on point. Early 2000's cheese was gone, but mid 2010's boring hadn't crept in yet. Can we get this again?

  • @artblanchard9555
    @artblanchard9555 2 роки тому +37

    Great review. I remember seeing ads, commercials on the web and on magazines of the F-07C and I remember wanting one but since they were from Japan, when they came out I thought they were a bit out of my price range. Thank you very much for this great review. I must admit is the first time I seen this phone in action.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  2 роки тому +5

      Thank you. I want to try out more things with this phone. Especially other operating systems. There will be a teardown soon. Then I'll take a break and make some other videos. Before coming back to this in the future.

  • @SOTP.
    @SOTP. Рік тому +8

    Looking back at this, the phone was wayyyyy ahead of its time. Now we got stuff like samsung dex, and even i think this phone is better than something like samsung dex, if it was done correctly, simply due to it running an actual desktop os.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  Рік тому +4

      Yeah, I really like this phone. It's a crazy idea and shouldn't have worked. But used within it's limitations it works really well.

    • @SOTP.
      @SOTP. Рік тому +3

      @@JanusCycle true.

  • @englishwithphil42
    @englishwithphil42 Рік тому +3

    This is fantastic!

  • @randt0l123
    @randt0l123 9 місяців тому +3

    wanted one of these for years. hard to find. had one awesome advantage. its compact size for its times.

  • @MayankGautam2004
    @MayankGautam2004 Рік тому +1

    I love your channel man ♥️☕🕊️

  • @give_me_my_nick_back
    @give_me_my_nick_back Рік тому +10

    WOW I'd have totally bought it back then! What an awesome idea! Just imagine how many xp or 98 era games and software it could run :D - I assume native win7 software would most likely be way to heavy to run well.

  • @Cyba_IT
    @Cyba_IT Рік тому +3

    So cool! I love gadgets like this. :)

  • @rustymixer2886
    @rustymixer2886 7 місяців тому

    Awesome video

  • @umangmalik
    @umangmalik Місяць тому +1

    honestly i would love to see something like this with modern hardware and Windows on ARM

  • @samwilliamson4715
    @samwilliamson4715 2 роки тому +3

    I liked your touring voyager- yes I think you wouldn't be thr first trekky fan whos wanted to "bump into" 7 of 9 :)
    I thought maybe you'd head for the Holodeck ?
    Nice video, cool little phone/PC thing.. also liked your thermal imaging app and dongle (?)

  • @n64ever
    @n64ever 2 роки тому +24

    Desktop OS on my mobile phone would be stellar, imagine one of these things with an AMD APU or an Intel 7Y75... 🥵

    • @DigitalJedi
      @DigitalJedi 7 місяців тому

      You could probably get an Intel N50 or N100 down to low enough power for a phone. 6W TDP and sub-watt idle at stock, but I recon you could slash the clocks down and drop the voltage a bit to get a 3-4W TDP chip.

  • @wolf3dv
    @wolf3dv Рік тому +2

    I remember reading about it back in the day. I still kinda want it, even if I know I would have no practical use for it

  • @PScool3590YT
    @PScool3590YT Рік тому +1

    amazing device

  • @MainAvel
    @MainAvel 2 роки тому +4

    DAMN that's cool... I kinda really want one now

    • @MASA-ARRI
      @MASA-ARRI Рік тому +3

      Believe me you don't... I've owned one and it's terrible at pretty much everything...

    • @MainAvel
      @MainAvel Рік тому +1

      This is exactly the kind of useless shit I like to collect.

    • @MASA-ARRI
      @MASA-ARRI Рік тому +1

      @@MainAvel yeah I went through that part of my life... Collecting things I couldn't afford back in the day...

  • @lalithrs
    @lalithrs Рік тому +2

    The asus zenfone 5 used an intel atom x86 cpu with android... One of the best phones ive had and also really good for rooting... But bad battery life and heating

  • @reiisthebestgirl
    @reiisthebestgirl Рік тому

    Man this is sweet. Almost like Pinophone with keyboard case and less jank.

  • @acid_flash
    @acid_flash Місяць тому +1

    0:47 The LCD is similar to the Sony Ericsson Xperia X5 Pureness (2009).
    But SE has monochrome.

  • @vihan4335
    @vihan4335 Рік тому +1

    Thank you very much, very interesting device, if they make upgraded version with now technology, it will be perfect.

  • @OSXMatrixMoDs
    @OSXMatrixMoDs 2 роки тому +28

    Seems like even now this idea is still in the BETA stages.
    With Samsung DEX, and android 11’s built in desktop mode being the two biggest examples.
    We have the hardware.
    It’s just the overall software execution and advertising it to the user that it exists that’s done extremely poorly.
    Cross consumer and company adoption will never reach maturity if it continues and it’s sad.
    Because I personally think the concepts are really cool.
    Especially for school or in home use cases.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  2 роки тому +5

      That’s a great analysis. I remember Windows 10 Mobile also tried a desktop mode and failed. Thank you for that comment.

  • @mrdufenshmirtz1139
    @mrdufenshmirtz1139 Рік тому

    10 years ago i dreamt of such device

  • @diomaiaal
    @diomaiaal Рік тому +3

    Playing pc games on a phone, at the time sure will have blown my mind away.

  • @jarifazmain5170
    @jarifazmain5170 Рік тому +3

    So basically the phone has multiple personality disorder

  • @gparyani
    @gparyani Рік тому +4

    I wonder what happens if you get a phone call while running Windows 7.

    • @jeremybeaverson7167
      @jeremybeaverson7167 Рік тому +2

      That’s actually a really good question

    • @SOTP.
      @SOTP. Рік тому

      I wonder if u can use the built in dialer to call

  • @piotralex5
    @piotralex5 Рік тому

    htc shift was a similar concept but more of a tablet size: it ran vista and windows mobile in parallel

  • @Basti-7832
    @Basti-7832 Рік тому

    "Fake Call"
    Got me lol😂

  • @MisterPikol
    @MisterPikol Місяць тому

    I'd lose my marbles having that phone back in my days

  • @LBSiUK
    @LBSiUK 2 роки тому +11

    So where on earth did you get one of these? I've kind of been looking for one and have been almost entirely inconclusive.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  2 роки тому +8

      From the Japanese Yahoo auction site. There are proxy companies that translate everything and arrange payment and intentional shipping for a fee. They appear on there regularly and every couple of months you can find one at a more decent price level, even including the dock.
      I spent ages checking regularly and bidding on different listings until I scored this one. It wasn't cheap, especially with the proxy fee, but affordable enough. Tip: search for just the model number 'F-07C'.

    • @LBSiUK
      @LBSiUK 2 роки тому +2

      @@JanusCycle How much did you spend on this one? They seem to go for around £160 - £200 (excluding postage).

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  2 роки тому +5

      @@LBSiUK This one was around the upper end of that range, but also included the dock and that estimate included all fees I believe.
      It can be hard checking and waiting for the right listing to appear. I keep myself going by having a list of items that I'm interested in, and switching my search routine around to different items regularly.

  • @bladeskygd
    @bladeskygd Рік тому

    get my friend one of those

  • @ihadnogoodideasforanamelmao
    @ihadnogoodideasforanamelmao 3 місяці тому +1

    someone should try make one of these now with modern hardware

  • @Zer01neBDTDev
    @Zer01neBDTDev 5 місяців тому

    Try to installe a lightweight version of Windows 7 and try running Games on it, would be fun.

  • @FizzyS0da
    @FizzyS0da 4 місяці тому +1

    I wish you showed web browsing and video playback eg (youtube, wikipedia, twitter, crunchyroll) and more games running on the windows 7 phone (AAA games from early 2000s or Indie games from 2000s or 2010s) I wasn't as interested in the technicalities or the setting up process. Please make a new video with the phone showing web browsing, video playback in the browser, and games from 2000s and 2010s.
    Although i wasn't as interested, I must say, excellent job in setting up the phone as it was in a different language and for showing videos of other prototypes and the historical videos and article's of this phone. Good work. Video liked for the effort.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  4 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for your suggestions, I would like to return to this phone one day.

  • @alexandermirdzveli3200
    @alexandermirdzveli3200 Рік тому +1

    The Hynix chip might be the 8GB recovery partition

  • @World_of_OSes
    @World_of_OSes Рік тому +3

    I think it would be good if they put a full-size USB-A port on the phone.

    • @SOTP.
      @SOTP. Рік тому

      Yeah... u have to use the dock

  • @EduardoAO
    @EduardoAO 2 роки тому +1

    I have one :) greetings from mexico!

  • @gergbowering
    @gergbowering 2 роки тому +4

    Great video. Where can I get that awesome Drempels screensaver?

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  2 роки тому +3

      Drempels is free and easy to find. The problem is it works best with older systems such as Windows XP. Due to incompatibilities with newer graphics hardware it's very hard to run on new systems.

  • @DuCarrLangTu
    @DuCarrLangTu Рік тому +1

    Hope that this phone'll got the techs of nowdays. With a CPU that runs over 2.0Gigahert and a more decent memories of 4, 8 or even 12, it might be usable, with Windows 10 of course.

    • @C00L3R
      @C00L3R Рік тому +1

      just get a steam deck at this point

  • @fbkensarhd5279
    @fbkensarhd5279 Рік тому +1

    Both Symbian and Windows are incredible.

  • @SeanGeraldo
    @SeanGeraldo 4 місяці тому +2

    I like the idea of that phone. I am the 121st person to comment this video.

  • @user-kl6qj9lc5y
    @user-kl6qj9lc5y 7 місяців тому +1

    I wish there were more x86 phones honestly

  • @bazzeil
    @bazzeil 3 місяці тому +1

    I'd love to see Half Life 2 on this thing. Probably a slideshow, but still...

  • @SimSimsTECHcrunch
    @SimSimsTECHcrunch 2 роки тому +3

    I'm wondering if getting a light Linux distro or even Windows XP running would yield better results.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  2 роки тому +4

      It's certainly worth trying. I'm looking for some live CD ISOs to try out with booting them first. Installing onto the internal eMMC based flash drive will be challenging. Windows XP especially may be impossible to install on this eMMC.

  • @mariob4735
    @mariob4735 4 місяці тому +1

    Hello Janus, is there any chance for you to share eMMC backup of it (or recovery image of this... thing). Thank you!

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  4 місяці тому

      It's 20GB compressed. If you can provide somewhere for me to upload

    • @adblocker1404
      @adblocker1404 Місяць тому

      @@JanusCycle Please upload it to the Internet Archive.

  • @dotnickcommaone
    @dotnickcommaone 2 роки тому +4

    Interesting…it works like a HTC Shift,but at a smaller form factor

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  2 роки тому +5

      The Shift was also an interesting design, more tablet than netbook.

  • @jun_suzuki42
    @jun_suzuki42 Рік тому

    I have some sales brochures of it. Kinda expensive so only attracts business people. This is indeed a crazy device.

  • @_gelon
    @_gelon 7 місяців тому

    According to the Fujitsu webpage, Windows 7 actually operates at half speed.

  • @voltare2amstereo
    @voltare2amstereo Рік тому +6

    I'd love my phone to be able to run windows full blooded. There's some things android sucks at. 4 digit atom chips are much better than 3, but this concept died too quickly

    • @raphaelkhoury218
      @raphaelkhoury218 11 місяців тому

      Yeah.... Althought Android is getting better and better over time, and you can run linux on it, without rooting, from an app... I haven't tried it, but i imagine performance to be bad thought.... I am dreaming of being able to run windows on my phone one day thought....

  • @mr.technologysilva8856
    @mr.technologysilva8856 4 дні тому +1

    When will they make a new version, I'd still love windows 7 phone, or even windows 8, 10, or 11, but like maybe with the new devices that are able to jam core i7 in, I want an i7 phone with windows, windows 11 has a dialer app now, and it would legit be a good phone operating system, especially if they add android app support with the play store, it would be an unstoppable phone for productivity users, pair it with the cameras of an s24 ultra and the s pen, that would be a cool phone, maybe with a slide out keyboard like the f-07c or maybe like a blackberry priv, maybe a phone like the blackberry key2, also they are making powerful arm processors, maybe we can add better cooling with a little fan and heatsink and make it powerful, and even those can run windows decently, I just want a cool phone, I have a galaxy s24, it's nice but not anything that special

  • @scalamasterelectros3204
    @scalamasterelectros3204 Рік тому +5

    God this is fantastic i wish more manifacturars did this

  • @rodanemontaque8499
    @rodanemontaque8499 Рік тому

    We need a windows phone to come back, every new release of android gets restrictive like the iphone, there are certain things you just can't do without root and rooting is difficult

  • @lautaro7958
    @lautaro7958 Рік тому

    Can you install Windows 8.1?

  • @TheStanHill
    @TheStanHill Рік тому

    I wonder if it’s possible to create a portable Wi-Fi Hot-Spot on the Android side and then connect to it from the Windows side.

  • @FireFoxDestroyer
    @FireFoxDestroyer 11 місяців тому

    This is basically Continuum before Windows Phone 10

  • @daveit1337
    @daveit1337 Рік тому

    Can you run CS 1.6 on it?

  • @Raptor50aus
    @Raptor50aus 2 роки тому +2

    Do you think the Star Trek Voyager game will run on your Sony Vaio UX running windows 7?

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  2 роки тому +1

      Yes, and no only run on the UX, but I expect it will run better on the UX. This is despite the UX releasing many years earlier that this phone. The VAIO UX uses a more powerful Core Solo CPU compared to the Atom CPU used in this phone and in many Netbooks at the time. Thanks, I'll have do a comparison at some point to confirm if this is correct.

    • @Raptor50aus
      @Raptor50aus 2 роки тому +1

      @@JanusCycle Where did you get the star Trek Voyager game from?

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  2 роки тому

      @@Raptor50aus I've had this game for a long time. I've noticed that it's recently been released on GOG.
      But you can also find it on abandonware sites with titles such as 'Star-Trek-Voyager-Elite-Force_Win_EN_Pre-Installed'. If you just want to test it out briefly, rather than play the game, then the abandonware sites are possibly justifiable to use. I did have to download and use the No-CD patch to get this running on the phone.
      venturebeat.com/2021/09/08/gog-adds-elite-force-and-other-classic-star-trek-games/

    • @Raptor50aus
      @Raptor50aus 2 роки тому

      @@JanusCycle yep found it and DL now

    • @Raptor50aus
      @Raptor50aus 2 роки тому +1

      @@JanusCycle I installed it on my Vaio UX and it plays excellent very smooth

  • @SchioAlves
    @SchioAlves Рік тому

    So they really tough a smartphone with no Wi-Fi was acceptable in 2011?

  • @xxx-lq7ho
    @xxx-lq7ho 6 місяців тому +1

    they should make Window 10 Mobile with Android system then very gpu synap dragon 10k w battery 16b ram

  • @HiR3x
    @HiR3x 2 роки тому +2

    What version of symbian does this use ?

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  2 роки тому +2

      It’s a heavily customised version of Symbian for the Japanese market. I’ll look through and see if I can find some version numbers.

  • @tanakayoshitake655
    @tanakayoshitake655 8 місяців тому +1

    iPhone4Sと同じ年にこれを出す勇気

  • @SiddharthLh
    @SiddharthLh 6 місяців тому +1

    damn, norton antivirus on everything

  • @remondobriyard1
    @remondobriyard1 2 місяці тому

    Now We have Android powerful than others old devices 😢
    But I wish I could enjoy those When I was 5/6/7 😢😢
    Whatever we have Windows Emulator now...

  • @djtomoy
    @djtomoy Рік тому

    If my employer gave me that to work on I’d cry

  • @williama29
    @williama29 2 роки тому +1

    this phone is odd of course i never seen this

  • @WinXP_SP1
    @WinXP_SP1 5 місяців тому

    Would have played Runescape on this.

  • @Connie_TinuityError
    @Connie_TinuityError 2 роки тому +2

    What phone was at at 5:12

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  2 роки тому +2

      That's a Sony Xperia Z5 Compact with a Seek Thermal Camera plugged into the USB port.

  • @bogganalseryd2324
    @bogganalseryd2324 Рік тому

    you should be able to run android on it?

    • @SOTP.
      @SOTP. Рік тому

      Android x86 maybe?

  • @AinMaliki
    @AinMaliki Рік тому +1

    can you run windows XP on that?

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  Рік тому

      It's said to be impossible. I want to find out why one day.

  • @belairrbx
    @belairrbx Рік тому

    Try upgrading it to windows 10 or 11 mini

    • @SOTP.
      @SOTP. Рік тому

      11 is 64 bit only so no way to get it working

  • @BushidoBrownSama
    @BushidoBrownSama 4 місяці тому +1

    Can this take an upgrade to 10?

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  4 місяці тому +1

      I tried 10 in another video, very slow. Maybe I should try Win 10 Lite.

    • @BushidoBrownSama
      @BushidoBrownSama 4 місяці тому +1

      @@JanusCycle yeah, if so let us know how that goes

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  4 місяці тому +1

      @@BushidoBrownSama Hopefully there will be another trilogy of videos with many more aspects about this phone.

  • @remondobriyard1
    @remondobriyard1 2 місяці тому +1

    And I have 3.19 GhZ
    + 2.80 Ghz
    Still I think I Don't have powerful device

  • @_EyeOfTheTiger
    @_EyeOfTheTiger Рік тому

    Waiting for the day when M1 comes to the iPhone and they copy dex mode but instead it’s full blown macOS

  • @SOTP.
    @SOTP. 2 роки тому +1

    You can actually get windows 10 running on a lumia 950.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  2 роки тому

      I'm going to try that one day.

  • @poklik1
    @poklik1 Рік тому +1

    UX280 на минималках

  • @SOTP.
    @SOTP. 2 роки тому +1

    How old is this phone?

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  2 роки тому

      this phone is 10 years old!

  • @edgarplayz1021
    @edgarplayz1021 Місяць тому +1

    get it to run minecraft 😂😅

  • @saisaitun2po4
    @saisaitun2po4 Рік тому +1

    In Windows 7 fake phone

  • @radishattitude
    @radishattitude Рік тому

    Who wants to play roblox on that thing

  • @dorkydicken
    @dorkydicken 4 місяці тому +1

    Here's a good test for you ua-cam.com/video/M3Qk3cP4kpY/v-deo.html it's Windows 2000 fooled into thinking it's XP and running XP with KernelEx I still wanna get one to try and throw ReActOS at.

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  4 місяці тому

      Really cool video thanks! The problem with this phone is the eMMC drive has no known way to boot XP or before. Maybe not even Vista. I do want to try though.

    • @SOTP.
      @SOTP. Місяць тому +1

      @@JanusCycleyou can probably port the drivers somehow, enderman for example did weird stuff with usb drivers to get xp onto a usb drive.

    • @SOTP.
      @SOTP. Місяць тому +1

      @@JanusCyclealso vista should run

    • @JanusCycle
      @JanusCycle  Місяць тому

      @@SOTP. I want you to know that I really do want to make more videos about this phone. It's very important to me.
      I was talking to someone about BIOS modding these. But that process is still ongoing.
      Please keep sharing any thoughts you have. Every little bit helps.