Fujitsu F-07C Teardown : Punched in the Guts
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- It's time to teardown the Windows 7 phone. With a punchy beat and careful disassembly, I'm going all the way into the Fujitsu F-07C. What kind of strange things will I find inside a phone that's like two devices jammed together in one. And what will happen when I get there? Come along for the ride, and hope that we can find our way out again.
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Music:
Olof Gustafsson - Motorhead Soundtrack
5:20 - Intel Atom Z600 (SLBZP)
5:28 - Fujitsu ARM-based RF transceiver (MB86L01A)
5:34 - 2 x Samsung K4P51323EI (512MB DDR2 RAM x 2 = 1GB)
5:53 - Toshiba THGBM2G8D8FBAIB (32GB eMMC flash storage)
6:00 - Atheros AR6103G-BM2D (Wireless B/G/N module)
6:06 - Intel SM35 Express Chipset (SLJ3Q)
6:18 - Hynix H8MJXQQXOMER (NAND Flash or RAM for the ARM phone, need the bottom number to see but out of focus...)
6:28 - RealTek ALC270 (High-Definition Audio Codec)
This is so high tech.
Damn two whole arquitectures packed together. That atom x86 cpu must get real hot when gaming!
I love ARM, but the freedom and software x86 still offers is way beyond. Having both worlds in your pocket sounds amazing tbh.
Loved the teardown montage, that must have taken ages to film and edit. Worth it IMO compared to teardowns that end up skipping steps.
Thanks for being honest as well, and showing even experts can make mistakes from time to time.
Thanks. If I have gained some expertise over time, then it's only because I made mistakes and learned from them. It's the failures that count. As much as they suck, you really do learn the most in those moments.
Pritty sure the two Samsung chips are the ram and the Toshiba is the emmc. The chip after that I think is the phones flash storage.
I also think you have the two Intel chips the wrong way too. The 2nd looks more likely to be the atom.
Thanks, you might be right. I was mostly guessing.
That is Intel chip with the epoxy package is the cpu and the bare die package is the chipset it's a sm35 chipset just google the number on that chip it reads out slj3q
Maybe one of those Samsung chips is a cpu with ram on top, idk if Samsung used their package on package (pop) methode... It's common on phones to have the cpu under and the ram on top with the markings so probably one of those Samsungs run the other os
@@309electronics5 nope
That was awesome, very thorough and to the point. Also, I feel like anyone who has one of these will appreciate your video for anything that needs to be repaired.
Also, I personally would love a new spiritual successor of this device with an ARM64 that runs Windows 10/11 alongside Android.
well I mean windows now runs on arm so they wouldn't even need to bother with 2 processors, they could just dual boot windows with android
Just found your channel and i just bing watch your all videos in 2 days 😅😅
That must have been quite an experience, I can't imagine.
I hope you had a blast :)
@@JanusCycle definately ^_^
Review + music 🤤👍
That phone is an engineering nightmare. Worse than a Janus card in an Amiga.
Management: "We want two OSes in one phone"
Engineer: "no problem"
Management: "they're going to have different CPU architectures though, and can't share any resources like RAM or flash memory"
Engineer: "..."
Nowadays you'd just virtualize one of the OSes.
Yes, the Amiga's Janus card is known for being flaky.
Great video yet again, I finally got another Vaio UX with 1GB (black edition) and have been able to repack the battery pack with new 18650 cells. working great with the 32GB SSD. :)
The black models are cool, well done. The UX is a really neat little machine. They have class and style. I'm upgrading mine at the moment. I'm hoping it goes well.
I'm releasing a new video tomorrow. I think you will like it. You might want to have your black UX with you.
@@JanusCycle I have installed Terminator Skynet game from 1996 and Terminator 1 from 1991 and Halo combat evolved 2001 all working nice.
I held out for a blue one back in about 2012. Yeah regret that. Should have gone with a silver or black. The blue isn't a good blue and the blue bezel isn't nice either.
@@Raptor50aus I had halo running on mine back in the day. Such a shame I never worked out how to remap the capture button otherwise it would have been playable on the onboard controls.
Yes a white knuckle moment of any re assemble - the re power up sequence.. suggest taking photos with your phone of key cables and connections just prior to removing them, this way you can simply flick thru the images of key moments rather than having to watch the tear down video over and over looking for a certain frame.. worked for me on many machine rebuilds.
Nice video, fun to watch. Was cringing at some of those ribbon cable and push connectors.. soo tiny and fine!! Glad you were able to get it running again tho
ALC27X series has 5.1 effect in settings and amazing sound. Nice.
I'm now impressed too, thanks for letting me know.
Over the past couple of weeks I ended up watching this series out of order, not entirely of my own doing - UA-cam's recommended videos algorithm had a bit to do with it too. Ending this series with the teardown video feels like a good way of watching them though; kind of like watching Star Wars by episode number instead of production date. It ends with "Return of the Jedi" and inexplicably they never made any sequels. Ever.
I found the internals to be fascinating and I thank you for taking the risk of showing them to us. One question not related to the internals; in the promo pics it looked like it had a sportier looking version of Windows 7, one that I don't think I've seen before. Am I crazy or just forgetful?
Despite creating these as two trilogies, I hoped they would work as independent videos. I'm glad that the way you found them on UA-cam gave you a good experience.
This phone has a custom icon launcher for Windows 7 that I didn't go into much. I could have shown that more.
I'm still debating with my friends the 'right' way to watch Star Wars :)
@@mattdavis9601 The prequels do feel more like they come from a creator with a singular vision, compared to some of the modern committee based approaches.
Though with complex characters and good stories, things like Rogue One and Andor are decent enough experiences.
@@JanusCycle My second comment, the one that was a reply to your first reply to me, disappeared and I have no clue why. You obviously seen it because you replied to it. But, I don't understand why UA-cam took it down after you replied. It's not even showing in my UA-cam Comments History under My Activity. I have this happen every so often, although it's usually within a minute after posting it, and it's annoying. I don't think it's a length limit thing; because I've typed longer comments that stuck, and I didn't include any links nor any banned words that I'm aware of. It makes me look bad and I hate when it happens. I'm sorry.
No need to apologise for UA-cam's automatic failure system. I found your missing comment in my email notifications. I'm posting it here, so we can see what UA-cam 'decided to lose'.
Matt Davis - "It turns out I missed one; the installing Linux video. I just finished watching it too, and to stretch the Star Wars metaphor as far as it can go, I'm going to consider it "Rogue One". It helps that I liked "Rogue One".
A custom icon launcher for Windows isn't something I would've guessed. I would be surprised if anyone who owned one of these when they were new ever actually used that feature. It looks cool in the ads though.
I think the originals are the best. The Prequel Trilogy was a thing when I was a tween so I have some fond nostalgia for it. Looking at it at adult eyes; it's got some clunky dialogue at times and more boring meetings than work, but the world building was great. They're honest and it feels like Lucas cared about the characters and how everything interacted. I like them. I'm not a fan of the Sequel trilogy because it took everything that happened in the OT, all the triumphs and sacrifices, and threw it away. It basically said our heroes failed and everything was for nothing. I like the "A Star Wars Story" type movies and the shows are fine to great. So, I'm not a complete curmudgeon yelling at Disney to get off my lawn."
Windows 8 Will be better on that phone since it's a touch screen. Windows 8 for touch screens and Windows 7 on a Desktop even though i use Windows 8.1 on a Desktop and Laptop and it's satisfying
Just found your channel real entertaining stuff 👍👍
Hey cool! I hope you keep enjoying.
nop thats the chip for the integrated graphics which is sometimes located seperate from cpu.
Thanks for the info
Have you ever considered looking into dumping the firmware from the Symbian side of the phone? Or at least look more at the Symbian side of it?.
Yes, but there is not much information available. Even in the Japanese forums when I had a look.
@@JanusCycle from what I found out, the Symbian board does have a OMAP Processor. I am also looking into doing this as well.
The Symbian side actually uses Symbian Kernel but it's not the Nokia S60. You can't build any apps or connect debugger or boot into firmware upgrade mode or anything like that. Maybe there were some Chinese hackers doing that for SIM unlocking, but never even heard how they'd do it.
@@user-cr4sc1ht9t to be clear you can build apps for the Symbian side if you have imode contract. iMode contracts still exist till 2026 but registration is closed. Which is sad cause I would like to make apps for this phone. Or any Docomo phone. Mainly P900iV.
always be super careful about removing cans, as some of them are permanently attached and can't be removed without destroying the board if you're not willing to desolder it
Thanks, this is important to check before removing.
Try install jing os on it
So instead of making a phone that can run Windows 7 they crammed an X86 PC inside an ARM based Symbian phone and the two computers barely share any hardware outside of the absolutely necessary, such a weird approach.
I know right, such a weird concept, yet they made it work enough for a phone.
You had to have a carrier-branded phone back in this era in Japan, basically same as you have to have an iPhone these days with access to App Store and iMessage, but each carriers had their own "iPhone". The actual iPhone weren't allowed into those carrier offered services so they were bit of a half a phone that needs a backup. The phone side of this phone is exactly that carrier phone to solve that problem.
@@user-cr4sc1ht9t I'm aware of how fascinatingly weird yet technologically advanced when compared to the rest of the world Japanese phones where during the 2000's and early 2010's, the whole galapagization phenomena which is partially responsible for a bunch of mobile games becoming lost media, but this phone in particular seems to really be pushing what can be considered marketable. So knowing that carriers quite simply mandated phones to be a certain way does help make this technological oddity make a bit more sense, thanks for the info.
As an aside you don't really need an iPhone in many countries, where I live they make up a tiny percentage of the smartphones out there with Android dominating by a huge margin, and before Android became the standard Nokia (when they were still using s60 Symbian) was the one ruling the market to the point that back when Windows mobile was still a thing it had a larger percentage of users than IOS. I've never owned nor had interest in owning a product made by Apple in my whole life.
Imagine upgrading those memories like in the newer iPhones and macs 😂
Try to run windows 10 I don’t know if it can run that
fantastic teardown
thank you
We are chatting about this on Reddit. www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/pz55xe/this_phone_runs_windows_7/
New photo: instagram.com/p/CUfp9e1vcbI/
What happens if you call this phone, while it's in Windows mode?
It will switch back automatically.
I’m looking at resetting the bios by removing the CMOS battery because I fucked mine trying to install windows XP and not it says boot manager is missing
Wow, I'm keen to know more about what happened when you tried.
@@JanusCycle at the moment all I can’t do anything, I can’t get into the bios, to change the incorrect boot sequence. So I’m not sure what I can do from here. Did you see a CMOS battery? I need to reset the bios or the boot order.
@@liamkeenan1062 The only thing I know is when in the dock and with something plugged into USB pressing F12 brings up the boot menu. I don't know about any CMOS battery or what is happening on your screen when you switch yours on.
Do you think maybe I should look at replacing the EMMC
@@liamkeenan1062 I don't know because you haven't described to me what you see happening in detail when it's booting? I'm still keen to know what you saw happening in detail when trying to install XP? You will be surprised which details are important. I'm also surprised at which details are important when learning about something I haven't seen before.