@@lmd499 no one ever says hey look at this, I can get a Ford pinto from that dealer. They just got some in. Why would you want ancient aircraft because they can't deliver 787s?
So you'd think after Concorde's inability to cross the Pacific, and thereby cutting itself off from the most beneficial use of time-saving ocean crossings, that the next-generation of supersonic passenger jets would make that range a top top priority. Ah but no.
To be fair, its outside the estimated range by 7% Have to also consider that the range and capacity is a trade of. Overture is a fairly small aircraft, hence it have very little benefit from scale effects. Increasing the range more would dip it deep into uneconomical teretory. Concorde main drawback is that the aircraft is really mostly fuel. If they cut of the range by 1000 km, it would be close to half as expensive to fly. Concordes designers really filled up every cranny with fuel to get the range they got.
Making it a commercial success is a whole other story as well.. In order to have a supersonic airliner be a commercial success it's gonna need to fit some 200-300 passengers, think the Boeing 2707.. I just don't see it happening, the future lies in more comfortable and efficient subsonic jets..
@@suserman7775 i see overture more pf a market probe. Its to smal to be a real competitor. But they need to test the concept... next gen supersonic will prpbobly have 6 wide seating and then it will be considerally more economical and have a bit more range.
United back in 1975-76 was one of only two airlines serving Monterey California with Hughes Air West who owned TWA. Anyway The United Airlines back then was where I met Carrie the mom of my son. She was lost in a traffic accident with my son. I’ll never forget that horrible night. I still love United Airlines because Carrie was a stewardess with that airline. I met her while I was stationed at DLI the Defense Language Institute. I see United still flies there. Many others fly there today now as well. Carrie loved her job and the airline she worked for.
What a beautiful story of love Bill, Thank you for sharing. I am so sorry you lost your wife Carrie and your son. They live on thru your story and will all remember it.....
United allows itself huge flexibility with its fleet. They can keep older planes flying while continuing to fly new ones, yet they can also accelerate aircraft retirements if they find themselves with a glut in capacity. 😊
Very tru, they don’t need the 350, would need for them to have pilots with Airbus Type ratings on heavy’s which they don’t currently operate any, more 787s and 777x is the ways to go
Indeed, the 787 just need 1000nm or 1000 more to be on the top of the 777-200. The normal -10 have 6,330 nm or 7,400.5 mi in normal miles. Another range more, new engine, fuel tank, and update are enough for be the best replacement for older 777 and careful, probably get in the way of the 777x( but we don't know yet). Even if it is still small compared to the a350-900, it would still be enough and sell good for those airlines who doesn't need that much airplane.
Not particularly. They outsource engine maintenance and probably a power by the hour agreement on the engines. They are not DL that has large engine shop.
Making it a commercial success is a whole other story as well.. In order to have a supersonic airliner be a commercial success it's gonna need to fit some 200-300 passengers, think the Boeing 2707.. I just don't see it happening, the future lies in more comfortable and efficient subsonic jets..
@@cancelanime1507 it’s an all business class jet. very expensive fairs. it’s a way for united to sell an all business/first class jet, something that makes some sense bc it’s where all the profit is on regular flights too.
I'm hoping that the Es-19 project does come to some sort of fruition. There are alot of regional airports that could benefit from these short range aircraft. I'm thinking SFO to STS its like 100km, with this flight your in the air a max of 15 minutes from take off to landing. Many other short regional routes have been cut and eliminated due to the retirement of aircraft like the EMB-120, that serviced these routes perfectly.
@@cancelanime1507 I have no problem with Trains and Busses, except the issue with the Bay Area has to do with the Bay itself. It's massive and just in the way in terms of any viable regional connections between SF and the Bay Area region. I see the ES-19 as a real benefit for regional airports nearby, because it would lower the cost to operate those routes and allow more people to fly from those airports versus driving to SFO.
@@markjensen7091 Sure, I just want aviation to have a competitive edge over other forms of transportation and the regional flights are where it's threatened most..
My wife and I flew Denver on the on the max 9 the seats were comfortable and I love having the your own TV screen in front of you. We also why United from San Diego to Houston. And Houston to Bogota Colombia we like United. And the economy plus seats are great.
@@thomasjsanford4369 the A321 is anything but a “small regional jet”. The A321XLR is specifically built for long haul routes that don’t meet the demand for an A330 or A350. Most regional jets have a max capacity of 50-150 whereas the A321 has a max capacity of almost 250. Because of its smaller capacity than the A330 or A350, this will allow United to efficiently operate new routes that have demand, just not enough for a wide body, or even a B757.
To be more specific. United flies the 757-200W/300W, they no longer have the non winglets. For the 737s, they fly 737-700SSW, 800SSW, 737-MAX 8, 900SSW, 737-MAX 9, & 737-MAX 10. SSW being the split scimitar. Also they have the 767-300ERW.
Planning is good.. Being realistic is even better. Dreaming is good. Dreams do come true. Remaining within the Makers speed of sound and light is wiser.
I don´t. I think its planing to the future. One of many futures. One future where synthetic fuel is cheaper than oil. Then the crew become the most expensive component. Fly faster, solves that problem. Granted, OVerture will never fill that nitch, but they have to get there feet wet somewhere
@@skyserf I mean it doesn't really matter, regional pronunciation is regional pronunciation. It's not really being any better than saying "Americans don't say Jaguar right. It's a British company."
@@skyserf Mesa is a word, which refers to "an isolated, flat-topped elevation, ridge or hill." Mesa actually got their name _because_ they were founded on a Mesa. The pronunciation comes from the word. Much like Jaguars are animals in nature, which the car company derived it's name from. It's not "wrong" for Americans to say Jaguar the way they do. It's just a regional thing. Personally, I say it like "may-suh" but I'm not going to tell someone they're pronouncing it wrong just because they have a different accent. The only hill I'll die on is if someone calls all sodas, even like orange ones, a "coke."
Mesa is already an absolute hellhole to work for, the idea that they're gonna make their pilots fly short hop electric planes is hilarious. I'd imagine they'd be doing 6-8 legs a day in that thing, which sounds miserable.
The FAA does not require a flight attendant if the plane has 19 seats or less. The first officer would have to do the safety demonstration. No inflight service.
Isn't it great that United finally starts to get over their merger with Continental? Not yet done, but getting there - and it took them only ... years .....
@@skyserf There is a LOT more to this story than just a name change... Computer systems, unions, different flight attendant contracts, etc., etc. After eight (8!!!) years, the merger was still not complete.
@@Luke_Go The merger was announced in 2010. What part do you think was not complete in 2018? Pilots merge seniority lists in 2013. Flight attendants in 2016.
@@skyserf I highly suggest you read sites like wikipedia, cnn, bloomberg, etc. - or watch UA-cam videos on this topic. As a hint: we now have the year 2022 and there are still areas were the United/Continental merger hasn't been 100% finished...
Great video! Do you think this Boom thing really will take off or it’s just a pr move? At the end of the day, they need to be profitable and that’s why the concord was taken out, and I don’t know if anything has changed… I sure hope it works out!
United has 211 widebody aircraft, whereas American only has 113 and Delta 145. Seat wise, very comparable to American. United is also the largest global airline of the three.
A supersonic aircraft with fixed wings? Are you kidding me? The Concorde (Super Caravelle, originally) was designed in early 60's by Sud Aviation Toulouse. Then BAC got involved. I'm talking about 60+ years ago! The compromised fixed delta wings do not perform really good at low speeds. Does anybody ever heard of variable wings?
Agreed. I believe United is announcing these low emission planes simply to please the greenies. 250 mile range? Really? What's the point? I can hop in an EV and drive that now and don't have to deal with the hassle of going to an airport.
United have 866 aircraft????? Holy s$@t, that's unbelievable!!!! However, having a lot of ancient 757's, quite old 737-700's, dinosaur A320-200's, similar aged 767's and pretty old 777-200's. This is an impressive fleet in numbers but not impressive in how old the fleet is, ancient fleets don't impress customers anymore as airlines like Emirates and Qatar don't keep their aircraft for long to keep themselves at the top of the tree.
@@johniii8147 with the 737-700 and A319 combined they have about 160. Both the A319 and 737-700 are some of their oldest and leased planes and will probably need a replacement by the end of the decade. On most routes the A220-300 would be an ideal replacement. They also currently fly A319’s and 737-700’s on routes where a proper 100 seater should be used as they don’t have one where some A220-100’s would be ideal. The A220-100 would also be a great replacement for some regional routes too. I could see them possibly ordering 50 A220-100’s and 150 A220-300’s down the line. Ordering the bigger planes is definitely what they need now as the 757-200’s, A320’s, and some of the oldest 737-800/900 NG’s need to be replaced. Also United currently has a very large amount of midsized narrow bodies and lacks the amount of large narrow bodies that American and Delta have with their A321CEO’s and 757-200’s.
I was interested to hear about the electric hydrogen conversion of Bombardier CRJ planes. It makes me wonder if at some point (before any of Airbus' Zero-e concept planes becomes commercial) we might see a short-haul A220 with electric hydrogen engines, either retrofitted or brand new. Airbus seems to think that they will need both hydrogen combustion and electric hydrogen together for its Zero-e concepts, but that might apply only to the medium- and long-haul markets.
I doubt the electric systems will work and I have reservations about what we do with all of those batteries when they’re dead. But I do like the hydrogen option.
Nothing is real until the passengers are loaded and the plane taxis under its own power for scheduled service. I would be very surprised if United ever took delivery of a single A350. If I recall correctly, they are under some strict agreements as a Boeing Preferred airline and taking those might have some severe consequences for the airline when purchasing future aircraft. Regarding the electric aircraft and hydrogen aircraft, I feel is the industry trying to skip a few steps to get to the next big thing. Total adoption of SAF and the removal of jet fuel (which SAF has to be mixed with) is the current step, but it is being overlooked for the Next Big Thing. I can see electric aircraft becoming very popular, but there are some rather glaring limitations that will take several years minimum to fix before we can hope of seeing them in commercial service. Hydrogen I remain highly skeptical of. I admit I know very little about the field, but from what I know it is currently incompatible with aircraft due to the differing storage requirements between hydrogen and Jet-A. Additionally, I have heard that while the burning of hydrogen itself is clean, the process of creating hydrogen fuel is just as bad for the environment (Jut a rumor I heard, I know very little about the field). Aviation is famously a very slowly developing industry technology wise. I'm very excited to see the future of aviation and what it will look like, but we do have to be realistic with our expectations. Anyways, that's my throwaway rant only 10 people will probably read. God bless the Internet.
No such agreement exists with UA/Boeing. Such agreements were deemed illegal some time ago. Those agreements died a long time ago now. Now where I do agree is it's very questionable about the 350's. They have kept kicking that can down the road. Wouldn't surprise me if they are already unofficially canceled as part of the the deal for the 321's but unannounced. Airbus is well known for delaying the announcement of major cancellations. But it maybe they will take them. They do have that large 777 fleet that will need replacing.
@@johniii8147 Didn’t know about the agreement thing ending, thanks for letting me know. S as far as the A350 deliveries; Stranger things have occurred, but I’d bet on a 777X order in the future.
I don’t think they need the A350, between the Dreamliners and the likely addition of the 777x it doesn’t make sense to go to Airbus and have to train new pilots. Also they would likely order the 797 when it ever gets announced
The ES19 and Super Sonic jets are just pipe dreams for UA’s fleet. United essentially just invested a lot of money into the R&D for those jets. The “if terms are met” caveat given in the video almost certainly won’t come to fruition.
I can't wait to see the new era of commercial travel from a slow subsonic flights to a faster supersonic flights. This will be more suitable for the growing population on earth.
I doubt they will have the supersonic boom overture as supersonic flight in the U.S.A over city’s and populated places is banned and has been for years.There are very few places they would be able to fly the boom overture in the U.S though it’s possible in very regulated places.As for the electric planes,that is a possibility in my opinion.I highly doubt the boom overture will do good in general though as they consume any type of fuel extremely fast due to supersonic flight,also,they will have to make sure the tires will hold so there isn’t a repeat of the Concorde.Though very ambitious in future plans,I doubt United will,or will be able to accomplish all they plan on as fast as they plan and in general.THOUGH THIS IS STRICTLY MY OPINION,I do very strongly think that United will accomplish most of its plans except for the boom overture plan.
@@dantove963 The only technology that I am aware of that has exceeded expectations is micro electronics such as computers and cell phones. What do you think?
@@landnnut There are technological advances in thousands of industries that have exceeded expectations. Just look at cell phones, computers, movies, automotive.... to name a few.
Very informative video. Thanks. United will never see a substantial number of the aircraft it has on order. Air travel will be forever changed post pandemic. These maneuvers by United are intended to satisfy investors but are significantly out of touch with reality.
Uhhhh no.. While I'm VERY skeptical of the Overture, the other orders look very promising.. Airports are very full right now, I've been flying a lot.. The only thing holding us back right now are these authoritarian mask mandates..
@@MarkWyche Well considering that you need an actual ticket in order to pass thru security I’m connecting the dots that a full airport translates to full airplanes. How do you see it ?
United should eventually replace its 96 777s with a fleet of 19 787-10s, 33 787-10ERs, 22 777-8s and 22 777-9s. The 787-10 would replace the 19 777-200, the 787-10ER would replace the 33 PW 777-200ER, the 777-8 would replace the 22 GE 777-200ER and the 777-9 would replace the 777-300ER allowing United to have a true 747-400 replacement for high capacity routes out of its slot-constrained SFO and EWR hubs. Maybe they could cancel the A350 order and use its deposits for more A321XLR and possibly some A220s.
why would united get rid of the 777-300ERs that are only 5 years old at the most? the -300ERs will be around for at least another decade. makes no sense to get rid of them so soon
@@caltrain910 just doesn't make sense from a business standpoint. spent all this money on these brand new -300ERs only to get rid of them well before the end of their useful life? i just think you're looking into it too deeply. united hasn't even shown any indication that they're looking to get rid of their 777-200s anytime soon, let alone the big boys. they could potentially be gearing up to start replacing the 777-200s with A350s, but i find it doubtful that united is gonna take delivery of those. more likely, they'll order some more 787-9s and -10s to start replacing the -200s at the end of this decade or in the early 2030s, and then MAYBE they'll order some 777-9s to supplement the 777-300ERs rather than replace them
@@iFailedTheCAPTCHA If United cancels there A350 order they could replace their 777-200/200ERs with a fleet of 23 787-10ERs and 22 777-9s. The 777-9 would be perfect for high-capacity routes from United’s slot-constrained SFO and EWR hubs while the 777-300ER fleet can be reshuffled and replace the GE 777-200ER fleet. Then the GE 777-200ER fleet can be de-rated and used on domestic routes where they could replace the 777-200 fleet. Maybe if they cancel the A350 order they could use its deposits for A220s and more A321XLRs.
@@caltrain910 i honestly think the A350 makes a lot of sense for United. similar capacity to the 777-200ERs and is an Airbus widebody that A320 pilots can transition into rather than putting them in a Boeing aircraft. plus, i personally just like A350s more than Dreamliners. however, United has always been a loyal Boeing customer and the Dreamliner is their flagship, so i find it much more likely that they use those as replacements. i could definitely see United getting in on the 777-9 in the future, but not now. i figure they may wait just like they did with the -300ERs. i agree with you on the deposits though. they have to go somewhere, and i find it likely that they order some more A321neos or XLRs. they've also got nearly 400 more MAX's on order, but i can't see them taking all of those in addition to the 120+ A321neos and XLRs unless they plan on retiring most of their 737NG's and A320s, which i haven't heard anything about
So this new boom aircraft is not going to be noisy like Concorde was no and their was me thinking the Americans loved our British concorde after trying to ban it in the usa
Hydrogen nor the current range of batteries will ever be a suitable energy vector for planes. The gravimetric energy density of hydrogen is barely 6 MJ/kg (cryogene) and 8 MJ/kg (compressed at 700 bar). This is only 1/5th of jet fuel. For the most performing current batteries, we're talking about only 0,5 MJ/kg, or 100 times less than jet fuel. Electric or hydrogen based flying is a fata morgana that only exists in the heads of politicians, marketeers and other people who are technically illiterate.
I don't think a lot of these plans will materialize with the exception of the A321 XLR, 787 orders, 737 MAX orders, and the A350 orders. Electric, Supersonic, and Hydrogen-powered aircraft sound like they are a ways off. I think SAFs (Sustainable Aviation Fuel) will become bigger because airlines will want to use the existing aircraft they have instead of having to buy completely new aircraft that run on something completely different.
Not for small regional routes, I think that's honestly the only place they will succeed.. Unless we can stick a nuclear reactor on a 787, we will never see electric aircraft of that size or even close.. Sustainable aviation fuel seems a lot more practical and reliable..
I think we are headed for a massive recession (need to increase interest rates and reduce federal budget deficits to cut inflation), and United will scale back the orders for 737MAX and 321neo and possibly 350-900. 787's could replace all of the 777-200's, as is the case at American. Only issue is engine order with Rolls Royce for the 350-900.
I am not liking there newer fleet I think personally the electric aircraft will ruin the airline along with the CRJ-700s with the new hydrogen engines me personally this is not a good idea
Glad 757-300 & 767-400ER still flying
Why? It's like saying I am glad they are still operating model t.
Some avgeek loves rare plane
@@umadbra nostalgia:)
@@lmd499 no one ever says hey look at this, I can get a Ford pinto from that dealer. They just got some in. Why would you want ancient aircraft because they can't deliver 787s?
@@umadbra because 767-400’s are cool shut up
These fleet videos are among the best videos this channel has ever produced!
Keep it up, cant wait for the next one😀!!
Amen!
@@alunesh12345 Amen
i don’t think the name Boom is a good name for a aircraft manufacturer
Its better than "fireball-crash"
I think it is
Lol
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I won't be on one of there planes lol
Half of this May never come to life but hey gets us talking about United and makes them look good right now
So you'd think after Concorde's inability to cross the Pacific, and thereby cutting itself off from the most beneficial use of time-saving ocean crossings, that the next-generation of supersonic passenger jets would make that range a top top priority. Ah but no.
To be fair, its outside the estimated range by 7%
Have to also consider that the range and capacity is a trade of. Overture is a fairly small aircraft, hence it have very little benefit from scale effects. Increasing the range more would dip it deep into uneconomical teretory.
Concorde main drawback is that the aircraft is really mostly fuel. If they cut of the range by 1000 km, it would be close to half as expensive to fly. Concordes designers really filled up every cranny with fuel to get the range they got.
@@matsv201 Why would a company invest in designing a plane that can only cross the SHORT ocean? Concorde could have made money as a Pacific crosser.
Making it a commercial success is a whole other story as well.. In order to have a supersonic airliner be a commercial success it's gonna need to fit some 200-300 passengers, think the Boeing 2707.. I just don't see it happening, the future lies in more comfortable and efficient subsonic jets..
@@suserman7775 i see overture more pf a market probe. Its to smal to be a real competitor. But they need to test the concept... next gen supersonic will prpbobly have 6 wide seating and then it will be considerally more economical and have a bit more range.
@@cancelanime1507 the main problem wirh 2707 and locheeds ekvivalent was the lack of a medium bypass engine
they should order the 777-9x too
United back in 1975-76 was one of only two airlines serving Monterey California with Hughes Air West who owned TWA. Anyway The United Airlines back then was where I met Carrie the mom of my son. She was lost in a traffic accident with my son. I’ll never forget that horrible night. I still love United Airlines because Carrie was a stewardess with that airline. I met her while I was stationed at DLI the Defense Language Institute. I see United still flies there. Many others fly there today now as well. Carrie loved her job and the airline she worked for.
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I am so sorry for your loss
❤ sorry for your loss
What a beautiful story of love Bill, Thank you for sharing. I am so sorry you lost your wife Carrie and your son. They live on thru your story and will all remember it.....
Gotta love United Airlines, always on the technological edge
I will Love too fly with United Airlines since it now flies to my Home Country Barbados from Newark and Washington D.C. for the winter seasons.
I went to school with a kid whose last name was Sargeant, one of his parents was from Barbados.
UAL should consider replacing their old A319s with the newer A220s.
I would put the A220 in the United Express fleet
@@cancelanime1507 I agree with that.
It will be a great way to streamline.
@@cancelanime1507 if they get the A220-100 variant then maybe yeah United express would be good
@@K4Ediamond Yeah it would be a good replacement for the E175s
@@cancelanime1507 the Best replacement for the 175 I'd the 175-2 who especially made for that. The 220-100 of they need more passenger who is probably
United allows itself huge flexibility with its fleet. They can keep older planes flying while continuing to fly new ones, yet they can also accelerate aircraft retirements if they find themselves with a glut in capacity. 😊
With the extended range 787-10, it's only a matter of time before united gets rid of that 350 order.
Very tru, they don’t need the 350, would need for them to have pilots with Airbus Type ratings on heavy’s which they don’t currently operate any, more 787s and 777x is the ways to go
@@a_goblue2023 United will 95% buy the 77X, but 15 years from now
Indeed, the 787 just need 1000nm or 1000 more to be on the top of the 777-200. The normal -10 have 6,330 nm or 7,400.5 mi in normal miles. Another range more, new engine, fuel tank, and update are enough for be the best replacement for older 777 and careful, probably get in the way of the 777x( but we don't know yet). Even if it is still small compared to the a350-900, it would still be enough and sell good for those airlines who doesn't need that much airplane.
Ex-Easyjet A319s?!? That seems like an odd move, as they’re CFM equipped opposed to the IAEs on their legacy fleet.
it's used for parts and are at Goodyear if I'm not wrong
@@EAGSAviationYT their fate has not yet been decided
Not particularly. They outsource engine maintenance and probably a power by the hour agreement on the engines. They are not DL that has large engine shop.
I would be very surprised if the Overture will ever come into reality.
Making it a commercial success is a whole other story as well.. In order to have a supersonic airliner be a commercial success it's gonna need to fit some 200-300 passengers, think the Boeing 2707.. I just don't see it happening, the future lies in more comfortable and efficient subsonic jets..
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I wouldn't
It won’t. UA essentially just invested a lot of money into the R&D for those aircraft. The “we will order them” is just to grab headlines.
@@cancelanime1507 it’s an all business class jet. very expensive fairs. it’s a way for united to sell an all business/first class jet, something that makes some sense bc it’s where all the profit is on regular flights too.
I'm hoping that the Es-19 project does come to some sort of fruition. There are alot of regional airports that could benefit from these short range aircraft. I'm thinking SFO to STS its like 100km, with this flight your in the air a max of 15 minutes from take off to landing. Many other short regional routes have been cut and eliminated due to the retirement of aircraft like the EMB-120, that serviced these routes perfectly.
I agree, I live near both airports and that would be a HUGE win for regional aviation over on ground transportation like trains and busses..
@@cancelanime1507 I have no problem with Trains and Busses, except the issue with the Bay Area has to do with the Bay itself. It's massive and just in the way in terms of any viable regional connections between SF and the Bay Area region. I see the ES-19 as a real benefit for regional airports nearby, because it would lower the cost to operate those routes and allow more people to fly from those airports versus driving to SFO.
@@markjensen7091 Sure, I just want aviation to have a competitive edge over other forms of transportation and the regional flights are where it's threatened most..
My wife and I flew Denver on the on the max 9 the seats were comfortable and I love having the your own TV screen in front of you. We also why United from San Diego to Houston. And Houston to Bogota Colombia we like United. And the economy plus seats are great.
Great video. But the background music is a bit too loud?
The Boom Overture and A321XLRs will most probably be the game changers.
Why would you think a small Regional Jet like the a321 would be any more of a "game changer" than the CRJ900 or ARJ190 were ??
@@thomasjsanford4369 the A321 is anything but a “small regional jet”. The A321XLR is specifically built for long haul routes that don’t meet the demand for an A330 or A350. Most regional jets have a max capacity of 50-150 whereas the A321 has a max capacity of almost 250. Because of its smaller capacity than the A330 or A350, this will allow United to efficiently operate new routes that have demand, just not enough for a wide body, or even a B757.
To be more specific. United flies the 757-200W/300W, they no longer have the non winglets. For the 737s, they fly 737-700SSW, 800SSW, 737-MAX 8, 900SSW, 737-MAX 9, & 737-MAX 10. SSW being the split scimitar. Also they have the 767-300ERW.
737-10 isn’t even out yet
@@bigpoppa4094 I’m well aware of that. Though they are already preparing all their gates to accommodate it.
Planning is good.. Being realistic is even better. Dreaming is good. Dreams do come true.
Remaining within the Makers speed of sound and light is wiser.
I think the new supersonics are being promoted as airliners for public goodwill reasons, but they're really business jets.
I don´t. I think its planing to the future. One of many futures. One future where synthetic fuel is cheaper than oil. Then the crew become the most expensive component. Fly faster, solves that problem.
Granted, OVerture will never fill that nitch, but they have to get there feet wet somewhere
I flew the united dreamliner-10 and saw the boom overture video. Can`t wait to fly the crj-550, overture and ES-19
You flew the Dreamliner but want to fly the ES19?
Crj-550 is actually pretty unique with the center luggage section. I think I prefer it, but only flew it once.
@@waddoo1234 the bulkhead economy seats on the CRJ have so much legroom it’s nuts
We saw what happened with the concord it didn't last very long with all the problems it had and here we go trying it again
Impressive 👍🏽👍🏽
It is not pronounced MEE - SA. It is MAY - SAH. Mesa is a flat topped mountain. Quite common in Colorado, Utah and Arizona.
Might have a different pronunciation wherever the narrator is from
@@YHDiamond It’s a US company, it is pronounced as MAY-SAH. The narrator does mispronounce things a bit.
@@skyserf I mean it doesn't really matter, regional pronunciation is regional pronunciation. It's not really being any better than saying "Americans don't say Jaguar right. It's a British company."
@@seventh-hydra As there isn’t a British company named Mesa it does matter. One pronunciation is correct, the other is not.
@@skyserf Mesa is a word, which refers to "an isolated, flat-topped elevation, ridge or hill." Mesa actually got their name _because_ they were founded on a Mesa. The pronunciation comes from the word.
Much like Jaguars are animals in nature, which the car company derived it's name from. It's not "wrong" for Americans to say Jaguar the way they do. It's just a regional thing.
Personally, I say it like "may-suh" but I'm not going to tell someone they're pronouncing it wrong just because they have a different accent. The only hill I'll die on is if someone calls all sodas, even like orange ones, a "coke."
Mesa is already an absolute hellhole to work for, the idea that they're gonna make their pilots fly short hop electric planes is hilarious. I'd imagine they'd be doing 6-8 legs a day in that thing, which sounds miserable.
You think theyd have FA's on those 19-seater planes?
The FAA does not require a flight attendant if the plane has 19 seats or less. The first officer would have to do the safety demonstration. No inflight service.
Isn't it great that United finally starts to get over their merger with Continental?
Not yet done, but getting there - and it took them only ... years .....
Yeah but unfortunately they chose the wrong name when they merged.
The old United was merged into Continental then Continental changed its name.
@@skyserf There is a LOT more to this story than just a name change... Computer systems, unions, different flight attendant contracts, etc., etc.
After eight (8!!!) years, the merger was still not complete.
@@Luke_Go The merger was announced in 2010. What part do you think was not complete in 2018? Pilots merge seniority lists in 2013. Flight attendants in 2016.
@@skyserf I highly suggest you read sites like wikipedia, cnn, bloomberg, etc. - or watch UA-cam videos on this topic.
As a hint: we now have the year 2022 and there are still areas were the United/Continental merger hasn't been 100% finished...
Your scripts are excellently written.
Great video! Do you think this Boom thing really will take off or it’s just a pr move? At the end of the day, they need to be profitable and that’s why the concord was taken out, and I don’t know if anything has changed… I sure hope it works out!
British Airways consistently made money with their Concordes
When we see the fuel cost today, it seems complicated…
Idk but "boom" isn't a very good plane name and idk if it's just me but "overture" kinda sounds similar to "over-torture" 💀
Couple of wrong numbers...They only have 40 757-200s and 16 767-400s
The Future is now, the highlights is comming up with United!!!
Are you sure they have an order of 120 A321neos? Because other fleet reviewers and even Google say that united only has an order of 70 A321neos
Damn. United Airlines is a pretty crazy US Airline am i right ? Similar fleet size like Delta Airlines but American has 904 aircraft at the moment.
United indeed had a very interesting fleet
United also owns a lot of regional aircraft that they lease to other airlines and carry the United name but not counted in the numbers
United might beat American for the most aircraft in its fleet
United has 211 widebody aircraft, whereas American only has 113 and Delta 145. Seat wise, very comparable to American. United is also the largest global airline of the three.
A supersonic aircraft with fixed wings? Are you kidding me?
The Concorde (Super Caravelle, originally) was designed in early 60's by Sud Aviation Toulouse. Then BAC got involved. I'm talking about 60+ years ago!
The compromised fixed delta wings do not perform really good at low speeds. Does anybody ever heard of variable wings?
Supersonic jets, EV planes and hydrogen-powered engines? Nice promises, but in the immortal words of Quincy Maddox, "Ain't nothing gonna happen."
Agreed. I believe United is announcing these low emission planes simply to please the greenies. 250 mile range? Really? What's the point? I can hop in an EV and drive that now and don't have to deal with the hassle of going to an airport.
@@explorenaked Trains will likely replace planes on the 250nm routes anyways
Yeah, Boom will be nothing but a private jet for the 1% anyways.
@@Dexter037S4 What makes you say that?
I'd like to see an electric regional aeroplane on the Kerry to Dublin route in Ireland in the future
United have 866 aircraft????? Holy s$@t, that's unbelievable!!!! However, having a lot of ancient 757's, quite old 737-700's, dinosaur A320-200's, similar aged 767's and pretty old 777-200's. This is an impressive fleet in numbers but not impressive in how old the fleet is, ancient fleets don't impress customers anymore as airlines like Emirates and Qatar don't keep their aircraft for long to keep themselves at the top of the tree.
That is why United is renewing the fleet. Furthermore, Emirates and Qatar are funded by their governments, United is not. Apples to oranges.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they take up the a319neo and 777x
They would probably get the A350-1000 and A220.
The economics of the A319 are no where near as good as the A320/321. Your better off with the Max’s at that size
@@TysonIke They have an obvious strategy to go larger rather than smaller. The number of Max 9 and 10s they have on order is pretty staggering.
@@johniii8147 with the 737-700 and A319 combined they have about 160. Both the A319 and 737-700 are some of their oldest and leased planes and will probably need a replacement by the end of the decade. On most routes the A220-300 would be an ideal replacement. They also currently fly A319’s and 737-700’s on routes where a proper 100 seater should be used as they don’t have one where some A220-100’s would be ideal. The A220-100 would also be a great replacement for some regional routes too. I could see them possibly ordering 50 A220-100’s and 150 A220-300’s down the line. Ordering the bigger planes is definitely what they need now as the 757-200’s, A320’s, and some of the oldest 737-800/900 NG’s need to be replaced.
Also United currently has a very large amount of midsized narrow bodies and lacks the amount of large narrow bodies that American and Delta have with their A321CEO’s and 757-200’s.
@@TysonIke So far, they like AA have shown little interest in the 220.
put 777-300er back on tel aviv it needs the 60 polaris seats
the 787 10 is nicer
They can make a TED talk.
I was interested to hear about the electric hydrogen conversion of Bombardier CRJ planes. It makes me wonder if at some point (before any of Airbus' Zero-e concept planes becomes commercial) we might see a short-haul A220 with electric hydrogen engines, either retrofitted or brand new. Airbus seems to think that they will need both hydrogen combustion and electric hydrogen together for its Zero-e concepts, but that might apply only to the medium- and long-haul markets.
Mesa is pronounce differently. Might want to look it up before next time you record
I thought they forgot to put that intro hahaha
I doubt that many people actually care about their carbon footprint. It’s just trendy
Not possible with current management as they waste money on everything they do I should know I have worked
there well over 34 years
I can’t wait wait to fly the Boom Supersonic
I doubt the electric systems will work and I have reservations about what we do with all of those batteries when they’re dead. But I do like the hydrogen option.
Was ceo not meaning classic engine option
That was a good time to fly for them Not now
Um? Audio is broken?
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Nothing is real until the passengers are loaded and the plane taxis under its own power for scheduled service. I would be very surprised if United ever took delivery of a single A350. If I recall correctly, they are under some strict agreements as a Boeing Preferred airline and taking those might have some severe consequences for the airline when purchasing future aircraft. Regarding the electric aircraft and hydrogen aircraft, I feel is the industry trying to skip a few steps to get to the next big thing. Total adoption of SAF and the removal of jet fuel (which SAF has to be mixed with) is the current step, but it is being overlooked for the Next Big Thing.
I can see electric aircraft becoming very popular, but there are some rather glaring limitations that will take several years minimum to fix before we can hope of seeing them in commercial service. Hydrogen I remain highly skeptical of. I admit I know very little about the field, but from what I know it is currently incompatible with aircraft due to the differing storage requirements between hydrogen and Jet-A. Additionally, I have heard that while the burning of hydrogen itself is clean, the process of creating hydrogen fuel is just as bad for the environment (Jut a rumor I heard, I know very little about the field).
Aviation is famously a very slowly developing industry technology wise. I'm very excited to see the future of aviation and what it will look like, but we do have to be realistic with our expectations. Anyways, that's my throwaway rant only 10 people will probably read. God bless the Internet.
No such agreement exists with UA/Boeing. Such agreements were deemed illegal some time ago. Those agreements died a long time ago now. Now where I do agree is it's very questionable about the 350's. They have kept kicking that can down the road. Wouldn't surprise me if they are already unofficially canceled as part of the the deal for the 321's but unannounced. Airbus is well known for delaying the announcement of major cancellations. But it maybe they will take them. They do have that large 777 fleet that will need replacing.
@@johniii8147 Didn’t know about the agreement thing ending, thanks for letting me know. S as far as the A350 deliveries; Stranger things have occurred, but I’d bet on a 777X order in the future.
@@Benstein347 eventually they probably will order the 777-9. But it won't be to be replace the 777-200s/ERs. Entirely different size category.
Aviation is slow developing because it prioritizes economics over innovation, and that's just the reality of it..
@@cancelanime1507 Well, for it be viable it has to make economic sense for both the airlines and passengers.
How big is the bathroom on the Boom Overture aircraft?
Bathroom ?………what bathroom ? It goes so fast you won’t have time to pee !
I don’t think they need the A350, between the Dreamliners and the likely addition of the 777x it doesn’t make sense to go to Airbus and have to train new pilots. Also they would likely order the 797 when it ever gets announced
Concorde Are back??
The ES19 and Super Sonic jets are just pipe dreams for UA’s fleet. United essentially just invested a lot of money into the R&D for those jets. The “if terms are met” caveat given in the video almost certainly won’t come to fruition.
I can't wait to see the new era of commercial travel from a slow subsonic flights to a faster supersonic flights. This will be more suitable for the growing population on earth.
Looks like the 70s 😅
@@jonathanmayor3942 Where they don't care about fuel efficiency? pffffft Get outa here.
You will be waiting a long time for that. That Boom order is kinda a joke. Unlikely the plane will ever fly.
@@cupcake0011 Boom overture isn´t that thirsty compare to subsonic jet with similar range.
@@matsv201well that's what I like about the Boom overture, It isnt that thirsty to fuel.
Why would they bring an electric plane that can only fly 250 miles?
Some regional airlines fly that distance.
Is the narrator a real person?
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Great ambitions but a lot can change in 8 years, only need to look at the last two years to see that.
“Meesa”
He has fallen victim to the classic blunder
United canceled its A350 order and instead bought more 787s. United may consider the A350 in the future but for right now they are not expecting it
I doubt the supersonic will come by 2029 lol and for sure some of the orders will be delayed. It always happens so
the a350 is such a dumb idea
How on earth can they need so many planes?!
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50/50
It’s still sad that United is trying to completely kill and get rid of the 757/767 fleet. I will miss those planes.
They are both more reliable planes than the (very dangerous) 787 NightmareLiner..
Nice. Love the Overture concept. 1.7 Mach.....Concorde achieved 2.0 Mach. Just saying 🏴👍
The supersonic and electric plans are mostly propaganda, I would be surprised to see either of them flying within the next 10 years.
American Airlines next please!
I doubt they will have the supersonic boom overture as supersonic flight in the U.S.A over city’s and populated places is banned and has been for years.There are very few places they would be able to fly the boom overture in the U.S though it’s possible in very regulated places.As for the electric planes,that is a possibility in my opinion.I highly doubt the boom overture will do good in general though as they consume any type of fuel extremely fast due to supersonic flight,also,they will have to make sure the tires will hold so there isn’t a repeat of the Concorde.Though very ambitious in future plans,I doubt United will,or will be able to accomplish all they plan on as fast as they plan and in general.THOUGH THIS IS STRICTLY MY OPINION,I do very strongly think that United will accomplish most of its plans except for the boom overture plan.
Electric airplanes will never work
@@alexbrutlag6022 they can,though only for extremely short flights
My prediction: That Boom Overture will never fly.
CRJ-200LR United Airlines..etc. plus X Planes landed commerical jet at KSEA three lane one at a time. Stop and carry.
Why no A220's?
All of this may happen eventually, but there will be significant delays. Innovative technology never meets predictions.
it often exceeds it.
@@dantove963 The only technology that I am aware of that has exceeded expectations is micro electronics such as computers and cell phones. What do you think?
@@landnnut There are technological advances in thousands of industries that have exceeded expectations. Just look at cell phones, computers, movies, automotive.... to name a few.
@@dantove963 And I would respectfully argue that all those advances are based on micro electronics, aka micro chips.
Is so much risk even worth it?
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Hey Sheila, nice to meet you, when was the last time you booked with United Airline ?
United Airlines was also on the books for ordering for Concorde.. didn't happen. A proposal for ordering Boom is marketing hype.
Very informative video. Thanks.
United will never see a substantial number of the aircraft it has on order. Air travel will be forever changed post pandemic. These maneuvers by United are intended to satisfy investors but are significantly out of touch with reality.
Apparently you have walked around an airport recently - they’re every bit as full now as they were in 2019.
Uhhhh no.. While I'm VERY skeptical of the Overture, the other orders look very promising.. Airports are very full right now, I've been flying a lot.. The only thing holding us back right now are these authoritarian mask mandates..
@@savagecub A full airport is indicative of what? There is far more to air travel than how an airport ‘looks.’
@@cancelanime1507 see my reply to @savagecub
@@MarkWyche
Well considering that you need an actual ticket in order to pass thru security I’m connecting the dots that a full airport translates to full airplanes. How do you see it ?
United should eventually replace its 96 777s with a fleet of 19 787-10s, 33 787-10ERs, 22 777-8s and 22 777-9s. The 787-10 would replace the 19 777-200, the 787-10ER would replace the 33 PW 777-200ER, the 777-8 would replace the 22 GE 777-200ER and the 777-9 would replace the 777-300ER allowing United to have a true 747-400 replacement for high capacity routes out of its slot-constrained SFO and EWR hubs. Maybe they could cancel the A350 order and use its deposits for more A321XLR and possibly some A220s.
why would united get rid of the 777-300ERs that are only 5 years old at the most? the -300ERs will be around for at least another decade. makes no sense to get rid of them so soon
@@iFailedTheCAPTCHA Maybe they could trade their 777-300ERs in for 777-9s.
@@caltrain910 just doesn't make sense from a business standpoint. spent all this money on these brand new -300ERs only to get rid of them well before the end of their useful life? i just think you're looking into it too deeply. united hasn't even shown any indication that they're looking to get rid of their 777-200s anytime soon, let alone the big boys. they could potentially be gearing up to start replacing the 777-200s with A350s, but i find it doubtful that united is gonna take delivery of those. more likely, they'll order some more 787-9s and -10s to start replacing the -200s at the end of this decade or in the early 2030s, and then MAYBE they'll order some 777-9s to supplement the 777-300ERs rather than replace them
@@iFailedTheCAPTCHA If United cancels there A350 order they could replace their 777-200/200ERs with a fleet of 23 787-10ERs and 22 777-9s. The 777-9 would be perfect for high-capacity routes from United’s slot-constrained SFO and EWR hubs while the 777-300ER fleet can be reshuffled and replace the GE 777-200ER fleet. Then the GE 777-200ER fleet can be de-rated and used on domestic routes where they could replace the 777-200 fleet. Maybe if they cancel the A350 order they could use its deposits for A220s and more A321XLRs.
@@caltrain910 i honestly think the A350 makes a lot of sense for United. similar capacity to the 777-200ERs and is an Airbus widebody that A320 pilots can transition into rather than putting them in a Boeing aircraft. plus, i personally just like A350s more than Dreamliners. however, United has always been a loyal Boeing customer and the Dreamliner is their flagship, so i find it much more likely that they use those as replacements. i could definitely see United getting in on the 777-9 in the future, but not now. i figure they may wait just like they did with the -300ERs. i agree with you on the deposits though. they have to go somewhere, and i find it likely that they order some more A321neos or XLRs. they've also got nearly 400 more MAX's on order, but i can't see them taking all of those in addition to the 120+ A321neos and XLRs unless they plan on retiring most of their 737NG's and A320s, which i haven't heard anything about
So this new boom aircraft is not going to be noisy like Concorde was no and their was me thinking the Americans loved our British concorde after trying to ban it in the usa
My prediction is that Boom will be a colossal failure.
Hydrogen nor the current range of batteries will ever be a suitable energy vector for planes. The gravimetric energy density of hydrogen is barely 6 MJ/kg (cryogene) and 8 MJ/kg (compressed at 700 bar). This is only 1/5th of jet fuel. For the most performing current batteries, we're talking about only 0,5 MJ/kg, or 100 times less than jet fuel.
Electric or hydrogen based flying is a fata morgana that only exists in the heads of politicians, marketeers and other people who are technically illiterate.
your videos are super quiet
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United has one big obstacle to achieving all this. Inflation and what comes after, recession.
What is the point of building a plane where it only has a 250 mile range? That’s not even enough from LA to Vegas?
I don't think a lot of these plans will materialize with the exception of the A321 XLR, 787 orders, 737 MAX orders, and the A350 orders. Electric, Supersonic, and Hydrogen-powered aircraft sound like they are a ways off. I think SAFs (Sustainable Aviation Fuel) will become bigger because airlines will want to use the existing aircraft they have instead of having to buy completely new aircraft that run on something completely different.
Not for small regional routes, I think that's honestly the only place they will succeed.. Unless we can stick a nuclear reactor on a 787, we will never see electric aircraft of that size or even close.. Sustainable aviation fuel seems a lot more practical and reliable..
@@cancelanime1507 Yeah I agree it's a nice thought of having these aircraft. But yeah SAF's I think are the future of aviation.
The new CEO is spending a lot on new planes
Can someone tell me what the point is with an electric aircraft apart from being very expensive to fly?
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Hey Sheila, nice to meet you, when was the last time you flew with United Airline ?
It's sad that United would be foolish enough to buy the 787 NightmareLiner, the only bad plane Boeing has ever built.
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Seems like a lot of bullshit for shareholder approval.
Mesa is pronounced may-suh not meesa!
Hydrogen engines? Hmmm... Hindenburg anyone? No thanks.
The Boom is all PR hype. it will never happen
I think we are headed for a massive recession (need to increase interest rates and reduce federal budget deficits to cut inflation), and United will scale back the orders for 737MAX and 321neo and possibly 350-900. 787's could replace all of the 777-200's, as is the case at American. Only issue is engine order with Rolls Royce for the 350-900.
This is really true.
Aren't we in a recession right now ?
You think our political polarization is going to allow for federal budget cuts? Doubtful. We’ll see, I sure hope so, but we’ll see
the A350-900 order is even less likely to get delivered with the to be launched 787-10ER
I am not liking there newer fleet I think personally the electric aircraft will ruin the airline along with the CRJ-700s with the new hydrogen engines me personally this is not a good idea
Didn't United just file for bankruptcy?
In 2002
What a old fleet