Your boss should take a rifle round in a demonstration with that armor he’s talking up. If he can stand back up on his own in under 5 minutes I might consider buying one.
Not quite true. It may surprise you to learn that all armor is held to the same blunt force standard. It does not matter if it’s hard or soft. If it’s level ii or IV. All have ratings well inside the NIJ safe zone that keep you safe from those sorts of injuries.
I would not spend that money on SOFT ARMOR. Armor is to protect you, yes the soft armor stops bullets but put the vest on a dummy that has internal organs and bones you’d see the soft armor causes more damage
keep in mind that it is NIJ certified. part of that certification is backface deformation. so it would not cause the amount of damage you are quoting. will it break ribs? hell yeah. but the same thing will happen with soft Armour for pistol ratings as well.
Weve had multiple people shot with the same BFD ratings that youre seeing here and they didnt even notice until inspecting their gear later on! Modern armor is incredible.
I had to re watch the video to see what you’re responding to 6 months later. Listen, get a new job. Your boss is a moron and the product you’re peddling is gonna get folks fucked up. The man said “typically” stops armor piercing rounds. I like my organs in one piece thanks.
@@imonly8354I’d rather be shot with actual armor that works. But what do I know? I’m just some guy on UA-cam who doesn’t have any bullshit to sell you. I must be stupid.
Hear me out, Now Im not the brightest but what if you got soft body armor for the protection around you and you put a metal plate behind it to stop your organs from being a slimy bloody soup?
Its unnecessary as the armor itself disperses the energy extremely well and is solidly inside the NIJ safe zone. In fact, multiple people have been shot in our armor and didnt even notice it until inspecting their gear later!
I believe that thing will technically stop a rifle round from getting through, but that's like getting punched in the head by Mike Tyson while wearing headgear.
I totally understand that thought but the amazing thing is that its simply not true. FRAS is held to the same hard armor standards for blunt force. In fact, we have found that in many cases FRAS has better BFD ratings than hard armor! Theres another video on our page showing that.
What material are you using that can stop knives and bullets because I was always under the understanding that Kevlar like materials that are woven wouldn't stop a knife as well as a bullet because they cut. I'm also curious what you're using for soft rifle armor because the only stuff I've heard of that actually stops rifle rounds has ceramic plates and gets compromised as soon as the plates in that area break. Just curious and trying to learn.
Its actually way harder to stop a knife than a bullet! Its a super proprietary thing in our soft armor. FRAS does have small ceramic tiles in it that are mixed with soft armor materials to achieve a flexible system.
It may surprise you to learn that all armor whether hard or soft, level iiia or level IV ALL have the same blunt force standards. All armor must have a blunt force rating with BfDs lower than 44mm. That is the NIJ safe zone. So, no matter what you wear, as long as it has been proven in a ballistic lab, you have nothing to worry about with blunt force.
When viewed without a sheath, the fras and IIIA+ would be great if the sheaths were redesigned again, like the hyperline of the same thickness, and I would use it as a fras concealed vest instead of the
@@thebluestig2654 The blue rifle armor is not level III. Level III is required to stop 6 rounds of 7.62x51 per NIJ 0101.06 standard. This would be a special threat panel because nowehere on their testing reports does it state the level III round. Level III and IV are typically hard plates made of ceramic and/or polyethylene (and steel if you're that kind of person.)
@@cc-vg4ed I guess you haven't seen the videos of their rifle armor tested, because people shot stuff more powerful than .308 at it and it still stopped it.
@@thebluestig2654 It doesn't matter if it is more powerful than .308. The level III test standard is 7.62 NATO FMJ. That is the only round that is tested in the .06 standard for level III. Just because it will stop m855 still does not make it level III.
The blue FRAS looks cool. But the internal bleeding and broken ribs and sternum is a no go for me. The impact will kill you. I'll deal with the weight and not take my chances.
@Eric Aaker The fras panels wrap around and provide more coverage area, and they even have side fras side armour panels if you have a gap, then throw plates, steel or ceramic on top for hard coverage from main impact.
It may surprise you to learn that all armor whether hard or soft, level iiia or level IV ALL have the same blunt force standards. All armor must have a blunt force rating with BfDs lower than 44mm. That is the NIJ safe zone. So, no matter what you wear, as long as it has been proven in a ballistic lab, you have nothing to worry about with blunt force. In another video on our channel you can see a lab comparison of multiple types of hard armor including FRAS. It turns out FRAS has better blunt force ratings than some hard plates!
so level IIIA+ is your most effective armor level IIIA or IIIA+ is still only for HAND GUNS OR PISTOLS and smaller shotgun rounds and saying it Will stop a rifle is not an approved rating (FRAS is not a real armor rating) so showing a RIFLE Round in the Text feed as if implying it can stop Armor Piercing rounds without specifying what round/projectile and it being approved as IIIA and IIIA + handgun/Pistol vs level III or IV Rated RIFLE armor is a HUGE liability to both yourself and your company AND I am not saying it wont work (if your ratings are actually verified and Approved) but by not being clear and trying some selling gimmick you are miss informing your potential clients and an injured client may sue you its always better to under promise and over Deliver if your vests can stop more Great but if its not rated as III or IV do not advertise is as such AND also i think that's why the comments are Cruel towards you guys as you are not really clear towards the Ratings and Projectile size's
I would buy a soft armor trench coat with a hood. But only that it doesn't make sense. Why would you just protect that area like it just it's stupid looking
IIIA+ sells at a rate about 3x more than Hyperline. That is because it is more affordable and also provides stab protection. The compromise is that IIIA+ is much thicker and heavier than Hyperline.
I can’t believe that guy just said 3a armor is the most common in law enforcement that’s a bold faced lie they wear level 3 an 4 lol 3a is for Armored security not law enforcement 3A can barely stop a 44 magnum it’s gonna hurt nor is it rifle rated.😂
IIIA is by far the most common for law enforcment and first responders. It not only stops .44magnum (thats the requirement) but also disperses the energy to well inside the NIJ safe zone. Level 3 and 4 armor is usually an add on for high threat situations or for special operations.
When you sell to law enforcement you get to charge enormous amounts of money because tax payers front the bill and they have to spend money before the fiscal year close outs 😂😂
Steel sounds so good on the defensive side, but the fragmentation stuff, and the fact that my body type is already more of the strength athlete but struggle with endurance, the weight would slow me down even more.
@@williamcoleman2128 you're right, what happens when ceramic runs out of defensive capability in like 6 minutes into shift? I'm thinking DIY to replace the strike face?
100% buy steel armour with a spalling sleeve if you are moving tactically. 100% buy soft armour for staying low for security, basic home defense, or if you really are crazy double up with a plate carrier. You don’t know what your going to use it for unless you try, that’s my 2 cents. Don’t listen to the keyboard warriors that play war zone.
Honestly I'm curious how effective this would be in combination with a plate carrier. Basically acting like a spalling sleeve with slightly more coverage on the sides.
I was thinking of Making my own Body Armour. And since I live in a Apartment. A Ballistic Shield. ZNA? Or Dreadnoughts Alpha made a 30$ body armour. It stopped 5.56 up until the 3rd round. I’d imagine. 2 inches of That backed onto something thin and light. Yea. My Hallways are gonna be holes and so will the shield. But I should be better off. Then once they stop firing or reload. Pull that “Amateurs” move and whip out the Uzi. Make believe shit
I always wonder y neckline is so big and armpits ,, personally I’d like more coverage and down as well. Past bellybutton. Way too small not enough coverage,,, 🤷🏽♂️. Even at the expense of mobility and impeding movement. I would opt for more coverage. Wish your company would offer that. In fras. Again,,,, Not enough coverage
Your boss should take a rifle round in a demonstration with that armor he’s talking up. If he can stand back up on his own in under 5 minutes I might consider buying one.
If he can make it out the icu within a week I'll consider
@@doblingamez1731 lol that’s a much more realistic answer
A .22 is considered a rifle. I’d take a .22 wearing the best lol
Ballistic vests are designed to keep you alive, not keep you in the fight.
Not quite true. It may surprise you to learn that all armor is held to the same blunt force standard. It does not matter if it’s hard or soft. If it’s level ii or IV. All have ratings well inside the NIJ safe zone that keep you safe from those sorts of injuries.
I would not spend that money on SOFT ARMOR. Armor is to protect you, yes the soft armor stops bullets but put the vest on a dummy that has internal organs and bones you’d see the soft armor causes more damage
Way lighter and more area covered though. It'll stop everything up to 44 magnum and 10mm. But yeah if you expecting rifle fire go for the level 4
Ubget the 3a or 3a+
Than in conjunction with a plate u have rifle rated to stop 30-06
Is it better to have internal bleeding or to have no internals but yeah for that price you can get level 4 steel with trauma pads
keep in mind that it is NIJ certified. part of that certification is backface deformation. so it would not cause the amount of damage you are quoting. will it break ribs? hell yeah. but the same thing will happen with soft Armour for pistol ratings as well.
Idk, can you conceal a level 4 plate carrier? Ins't the purpose of soft armour to be conceal carry or i am wrong?
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Weve had multiple people shot with the same BFD ratings that youre seeing here and they didnt even notice until inspecting their gear later on! Modern armor is incredible.
I had to re watch the video to see what you’re responding to 6 months later.
Listen, get a new job. Your boss is a moron and the product you’re peddling is gonna get folks fucked up. The man said “typically” stops armor piercing rounds.
I like my organs in one piece thanks.
@@SafeLifeDefenseBodyArmorthe same exact thing happens with people who are actually shot it’s incredibly common called adrenaline
Let me ask you this: would you rather be shot with or without the body armour on?
@@imonly8354I’d rather be shot with actual armor that works. But what do I know? I’m just some guy on UA-cam who doesn’t have any bullshit to sell you. I must be stupid.
I remember soft armor bullet proof vest for 50 bucks at thrifty's in the 90s. Now the 500-1500 bucks to 😅
Nice! I need to test them out sometime.
Armor piercing denial on soft armor? *presses X
Buy the thin one and put steel plates over the thin armor Bet!
the thin is their 2nd most expensive, starting at 1k just for the panels without a vest carrier included
@@FairyDustDess nice videos you got there 👀
There sure are a list of armor experts in the comments all of a sudden.
Guess all the poor people can just move on... expensive. Thank God for hard armor. Saving poor people yo.
The last vest doesn't cover the entire body you could still hit some major organs like your colon
Lotta body armor experts here
Hear me out, Now Im not the brightest but what if you got soft body armor for the protection around you and you put a metal plate behind it to stop your organs from being a slimy bloody soup?
Most soft armor vests have pockets for optional lvl 4 plates.
Its unnecessary as the armor itself disperses the energy extremely well and is solidly inside the NIJ safe zone. In fact, multiple people have been shot in our armor and didnt even notice it until inspecting their gear later!
@@SafeLifeDefenseBodyArmor seems hard to believe you wouldnt notice being shot…. perhaps just fragments?
Usually people have soft armour behind hard armour. Hard armour will do most the work
I believe that thing will technically stop a rifle round from getting through, but that's like getting punched in the head by Mike Tyson while wearing headgear.
I totally understand that thought but the amazing thing is that its simply not true. FRAS is held to the same hard armor standards for blunt force. In fact, we have found that in many cases FRAS has better BFD ratings than hard armor! Theres another video on our page showing that.
What material are you using that can stop knives and bullets because I was always under the understanding that Kevlar like materials that are woven wouldn't stop a knife as well as a bullet because they cut. I'm also curious what you're using for soft rifle armor because the only stuff I've heard of that actually stops rifle rounds has ceramic plates and gets compromised as soon as the plates in that area break. Just curious and trying to learn.
Its actually way harder to stop a knife than a bullet! Its a super proprietary thing in our soft armor. FRAS does have small ceramic tiles in it that are mixed with soft armor materials to achieve a flexible system.
Ill keep my plates thanks
At least you're selling these rib grinders to leo
Should look at neds kelly armour.
How much is the white 1 im from tha hood and I’m looking into getting a bullet proof vest
Ngl, id feel safer with a plate then the soft armor behind the plate lol
Seems like youd b better off with a phone book
how many fras plates stacked together will stop 50 bgm round?
Me with my friendly neighbor hood 50AE
50ae is actually quite easy to stop. Its a large slow round that gets caught in fibers easily.
Wow
I was just wondering why does vest stop so short why not make it longer
"some armor is better than no armor" Yes but I'd like to keep my ribs in the future thank you
LMAO
It may surprise you to learn that all armor whether hard or soft, level iiia or level IV ALL have the same blunt force standards. All armor must have a blunt force rating with BfDs lower than 44mm. That is the NIJ safe zone. So, no matter what you wear, as long as it has been proven in a ballistic lab, you have nothing to worry about with blunt force.
When viewed without a sheath, the fras and IIIA+ would be great if the sheaths were redesigned again, like the hyperline of the same thickness, and I would use it as a fras concealed vest instead of the
I'm still very confused about the Level IIIA vs the Level IIIA+
I could have sworn that level III and level IV was also body armor....that wasn't mentioned at all.
The rifle armor is level 3. Level 4 is typically hard plate of some kind.
@@thebluestig2654 The blue rifle armor is not level III. Level III is required to stop 6 rounds of 7.62x51 per NIJ 0101.06 standard. This would be a special threat panel because nowehere on their testing reports does it state the level III round. Level III and IV are typically hard plates made of ceramic and/or polyethylene (and steel if you're that kind of person.)
@@cc-vg4ed I guess you haven't seen the videos of their rifle armor tested, because people shot stuff more powerful than .308 at it and it still stopped it.
@@thebluestig2654 It doesn't matter if it is more powerful than .308. The level III test standard is 7.62 NATO FMJ. That is the only round that is tested in the .06 standard for level III. Just because it will stop m855 still does not make it level III.
@@cc-vg4ed wrong soy boy
I would like to know how the program for law enforcement Ems and military goes I’ve applied and gotten no response
So if you want the thinnest lightest most protected which one
The hyperline colored in white
The blue FRAS looks cool. But the internal bleeding and broken ribs and sternum is a no go for me. The impact will kill you. I'll deal with the weight and not take my chances.
That's why you have both, the fras for all around protection, and a plate on top.
@@redbeardedt3437 Why not just buy Ceramic plates then?
@Eric Aaker The fras panels wrap around and provide more coverage area, and they even have side fras side armour panels if you have a gap, then throw plates, steel or ceramic on top for hard coverage from main impact.
Source: yes
It may surprise you to learn that all armor whether hard or soft, level iiia or level IV ALL have the same blunt force standards. All armor must have a blunt force rating with BfDs lower than 44mm. That is the NIJ safe zone. So, no matter what you wear, as long as it has been proven in a ballistic lab, you have nothing to worry about with blunt force. In another video on our channel you can see a lab comparison of multiple types of hard armor including FRAS. It turns out FRAS has better blunt force ratings than some hard plates!
so level IIIA+ is your most effective armor level IIIA or IIIA+ is still only for HAND GUNS OR PISTOLS and smaller shotgun rounds and saying it Will stop a rifle is not an approved rating (FRAS is not a real armor rating) so showing a RIFLE Round in the Text feed as if implying it can stop Armor Piercing rounds without specifying what round/projectile and it being approved as IIIA and IIIA + handgun/Pistol vs level III or IV Rated RIFLE armor is a HUGE liability to both yourself and your company
AND I am not saying it wont work (if your ratings are actually verified and Approved) but by not being clear and trying some selling gimmick you are miss informing your potential clients and an injured client may sue you its always better to under promise and over Deliver if your vests can stop more Great but if its not rated as III or IV do not advertise is as such AND also i think that's why the comments are Cruel towards you guys as you are not really clear towards the Ratings and Projectile size's
I would buy a soft armor trench coat with a hood. But only that it doesn't make sense. Why would you just protect that area like it just it's stupid looking
why do most people buy the 3a+ instead of the hyperline?
IIIA+ sells at a rate about 3x more than Hyperline. That is because it is more affordable and also provides stab protection. The compromise is that IIIA+ is much thicker and heavier than Hyperline.
I can’t believe that guy just said 3a armor is the most common in law enforcement that’s a bold faced lie they wear level 3 an 4 lol 3a is for Armored security not law enforcement 3A can barely stop a 44 magnum it’s gonna hurt nor is it rifle rated.😂
IIIA is by far the most common for law enforcment and first responders. It not only stops .44magnum (thats the requirement) but also disperses the energy to well inside the NIJ safe zone. Level 3 and 4 armor is usually an add on for high threat situations or for special operations.
so if i wear them in layers its level 7?
I guess but you would need like 10+. I guess it would be like how many phone books can stop a bullet
How much is that blue one that can stop a rifle?
1500 for 2 plates or a little less than 1000 for panels that are smaller
These things are self defense
Charging 1000s of dollars for this f*ck safelife
Its simply incredibly expensive and difficult to make.
When you sell to law enforcement you get to charge enormous amounts of money because tax payers front the bill and they have to spend money before the fiscal year close outs 😂😂
your life isn't worth more than that?
449$ for a entry level IIIA when you can get a good III or higher steel plate for 200$
> steel plate
lol
Steel sounds so good on the defensive side, but the fragmentation stuff, and the fact that my body type is already more of the strength athlete but struggle with endurance, the weight would slow me down even more.
Steel is great if you like taking frag in the neck and face.
@@williamcoleman2128 you're right, what happens when ceramic runs out of defensive capability in like 6 minutes into shift? I'm thinking DIY to replace the strike face?
100% buy steel armour with a spalling sleeve if you are moving tactically. 100% buy soft armour for staying low for security, basic home defense, or if you really are crazy double up with a plate carrier. You don’t know what your going to use it for unless you try, that’s my 2 cents. Don’t listen to the keyboard warriors that play war zone.
Honestly I'm curious how effective this would be in combination with a plate carrier. Basically acting like a spalling sleeve with slightly more coverage on the sides.
I was thinking of Making my own Body Armour. And since I live in a Apartment. A Ballistic Shield.
ZNA? Or Dreadnoughts Alpha made a 30$ body armour.
It stopped 5.56 up until the 3rd round.
I’d imagine. 2 inches of That backed onto something thin and light.
Yea. My Hallways are gonna be holes and so will the shield.
But I should be better off.
Then once they stop firing or reload.
Pull that “Amateurs” move and whip out the Uzi.
Make believe shit
Just being honest I couldn't tell the context of your message; are you making fun of the homemade armor guys, or saying you're going to implement it?
Too bad im poor
I always wonder y neckline is so big and armpits ,, personally I’d like more coverage and down as well. Past bellybutton. Way too small not enough coverage,,, 🤷🏽♂️. Even at the expense of mobility and impeding movement. I would opt for more coverage. Wish your company would offer that. In fras. Again,,,, Not enough coverage
Fra is rated at what level you never mention the level
Level 4
Ive seen like 3 videos of fras and you guys come off as major scammers.
If your are review the fras sheath like hyperline, it can be fully applied to hidden
Over priced for something made in china?
This is made in Italy with Dyneema, Kevlar and a proprietary ceramic tile.
Thst explained nothing
You should get a better pr team
Useless video. No idea what level protection the blue and black actually provide.
$ 👎🏼
Nani?
Ex military guy argued with me that your iiia body armor wouldnt even stop a 9mm it's just a knife vest
Did you could go to wish and get a play that could stop 50 bmg it's name is strike face
Id pick plate carrier all day
Just bought vest 3a+ can I get some free gloves 😭💘
No
@@SO10mm lol
I love your armor, but I’m more like a military style plate carrier guy