Drum Switch & Electric Motor Wiring - Myford Lathe Restoration Part 11

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  • @orsummerton
    @orsummerton 4 роки тому +18

    Would you recommend buying a Myford ML7? Looking at buying my first lathe and I'm used to working on a Emco Maximat 11 and a Swedish version of the South Bend named Blomqvist BSN600. But there are currently a few Myfords for sale in my area that have peaked my interest.

    • @GeoffreyCroker
      @GeoffreyCroker  4 роки тому +34

      No. Not if you want something that works like an Emco 11. Myfords are great if you want a little lathe to play with - lots of accessories - and much better than a cheap new mini lathe. But If you have space, for the same money, you can get a larger boxford or emco, which are both really common and easy to get parts for etc. The extra size is going to make them way more rigid.
      If you do want a myford, try and get a Super 7 with a gearbox. The Super 7s have 'modern' headstock bearings instead of old solid white metal bearings like the ML7 which drip oil everywhere - and a gearbox is so much better than change gears. I'm not saying I'm an expert or that there's anything wrong with a Myford ML7 - but that's my shopping advice.

    • @CypherAod
      @CypherAod 4 роки тому +4

      @@GeoffreyCroker Myford 7s are also ridiculously expensive compared to less "pretty" lathes like Boxfords and so-on.

    • @tutekohe1361
      @tutekohe1361 4 роки тому +8

      “Piqued” rather than “peaked”

    • @munkeyWITHbeard
      @munkeyWITHbeard 4 роки тому +3

      Boxford are clones of the south bend 9 too, much heavier built and precision taper roller bearings on the spindle, loads of interchangeable parts between all of the clones except the smart and brown sabel which has a different bed profile

    • @ScarredRealist
      @ScarredRealist 4 роки тому +6

      Everything the venerable Mr Croker said; if I were doing it again I'd at least wait for a Super to come up, but I should have gone for a Boxford, or even a mid-sized Colchester. Instead I've got two Myfords. It's a sickness. There is no cure. Don't fall into the trap...

  •  4 роки тому +7

    Not gonna lie. This was the first lathe restoration series on YT that influenced me to buy my first lathe. Still enjoy the saga ;)

    • @GeoffreyCroker
      @GeoffreyCroker  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you Ca Lem 👍👍

    • @pedroernestobraga
      @pedroernestobraga 3 роки тому +1

      Me too, this series inspired me to made my homemade lathe following the myford project cz this video is fully detailed

  • @HandToolRescue
    @HandToolRescue 4 роки тому +54

    Yes! Do a Part 12 where you just add small rubber pads to the bottom of that housing.

    • @GeoffreyCroker
      @GeoffreyCroker  4 роки тому +27

      I think I will turn that into a 100 part instagram story 😁

    • @HandToolRescue
      @HandToolRescue 4 роки тому +10

      @@GeoffreyCroker It's the only way...

    • @perrydear
      @perrydear 4 роки тому +3

      Great stuff! Thanks

  • @carp614
    @carp614 4 роки тому +54

    Just this morning I was thinking, "Mr. Croker hasn't posted in a while. I miss the Rover project."...and this is what I got. yay. glad you are well sir.

  • @酒飲み仙人
    @酒飲み仙人 4 роки тому +1

    日本人です。毎回の動画、楽しみにしてます。あまり英語は得意ではありませんが、次回の動画も楽しみに待ってます。ディフェンダーの動画、心待ちにしてますね~。

  • @davidbrown8365
    @davidbrown8365 4 роки тому +48

    Animations and sounds effects - pure dead brilliant! And that depth of cut.....

  • @gregwmanning
    @gregwmanning 2 роки тому +1

    Clever idea with the pulley key(s) well done
    I jumped at the 80thou depth of cut explosion!

  • @ronkellis769
    @ronkellis769 3 роки тому +1

    It took seeing how you did this for the reversing rum switch to make sense! Thank you. And also others safety warnings. On the wiring and these drum switches. Best to install a double pole double throw to the motor. Meaning when the switch is "off" no circuit at all goes to the motor. Then use only the top 4 connections for motor reversing. Otherwise one leg to the motor, the jumper connection 4 & 6 to the motor is always "hot" even when the reversing drum switch is in the off position. Most big button on/off switches are DPDT and you can get DPDT that are like wall switches that here in the States will fit in what we call a surface mount box or old work box. Thanks again for your explanation!
    Ron

  • @fluffchucker13
    @fluffchucker13 11 місяців тому +1

    @Geoffrey Croker … I found this extremely helpful as last week my motor shorted out scaring the 💩💩 out of me.
    So I have had to start stripping it down to get rid of the original rubber coated cable, to replace it with better quality.
    I took photos of the switch to help me with the rewire, but now I can do screen shots and print them, many thanks 🙏

  • @stuartwood8679
    @stuartwood8679 4 роки тому +1

    Fantastic video. Nothing better than having a spare hole ! 5:19

  • @ginolabarbera2056
    @ginolabarbera2056 2 роки тому +1

    Great graphic to explain the wiring as you performed it! I just wish I could follow it! Great work.

  • @soodonym
    @soodonym 4 роки тому +3

    I paused the video to write this comment. I experienced great pleasure watching watching you put the bushing over the shaft and then the pulley... Not creepy... It was just so satisfying.

    • @ShainAndrews
      @ShainAndrews 4 роки тому +1

      I've been driving that behavior out of my nephews. Oh that's so satisfying....

  • @danskhandle
    @danskhandle 4 роки тому +1

    a well edited video on UA-cam, so rare

  • @Pushyhog
    @Pushyhog 3 роки тому +1

    lights action camera sound filmography timing editing incredible.

  • @Mjc103
    @Mjc103 4 роки тому +1

    Maybe the most underrated content on UA-cam. I so appreciate you not holding your camera arms length away for 1/2 the video. I for one like the POV of work with your voice over explaining your tactics.
    Bravo Sir from Fort Worth Texas.
    Post more!!

  • @johndehoog5567
    @johndehoog5567 4 роки тому +2

    Outstanding!!! Framing, lighting and focus are out of this world. Top Drawer! As usual dialogue complete with puns, accent, sarcasm and humour are sweet. Thanks for sharing.

  • @johnfisher747
    @johnfisher747 4 роки тому +17

    Always a relief when the smoke stays inside the wires likes it's supposed to 👍

  • @dereckjtbear2175
    @dereckjtbear2175 4 роки тому +1

    What we All have been waiting for, Test run...! Yeah Great job 😁

  • @superkas
    @superkas 4 роки тому +1

    My bloke is back, hell yes!

  • @southyjd
    @southyjd 4 роки тому +1

    At this point im wanting to send a search party in for him. Missing the uploads. Said it before but it's still the one channel I will actively check for uploads.

  • @JoaoManFerCardoso
    @JoaoManFerCardoso 4 роки тому +1

    Nice to see you back :)

  • @BlackCoinCrypto
    @BlackCoinCrypto 3 роки тому +1

    This is an absolutely awesome series. I just picked up one of these lathe over the weekend. This video series has been very useful to get the old girl working.

  • @ianbrown4242
    @ianbrown4242 4 роки тому +1

    Seeing as I bought a Myford ML7 purely so I could rebuild it using your series as a guide, this update really, really thrilled me.

  • @tleg6969
    @tleg6969 4 роки тому +8

    Your videos are such a treat!! Thank you for all your hard work in putting them together for us.

  • @orestisnarliotis7256
    @orestisnarliotis7256 4 роки тому +14

    Thanks for giving me another way to procrastinate on my Spanish homework lol. I just got around to actually making the motor on my lathe run, now I just need to wire it, and watching your videos has been pretty motivating, so thanks mate!

    • @dartysengineering7275
      @dartysengineering7275 4 роки тому +5

      i have 4 hour test tomorrow morning and i should learn, but this indeed doesn't help! and fun fact, today i took apart my lathe motor because it has bad bearings... must be a coincidence ;)

    • @GeoffreyCroker
      @GeoffreyCroker  4 роки тому +6

      De nada

  • @pinpatchyeah7987
    @pinpatchyeah7987 4 роки тому +1

    Best edited, composed videos on UA-cam. The animations showed the different methods of attaching the wires. Great detail!!

  • @NavigatedChaos
    @NavigatedChaos 4 роки тому +3

    This is actually the video I needed with the humor, voice, work. This helped.

  • @rpederse
    @rpederse 4 роки тому +11

    This was fun. Thank you, Geoffrey.

  • @MartsGarage
    @MartsGarage 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks Geoffrey, that is very helpful. I will have to rewatch a couple of times to work it all out, but the graphics are excellent. As always your videos are very well made, informative and entertaining. All the best, Mart in England.

  • @wiktorrubinsson5953
    @wiktorrubinsson5953 4 роки тому +1

    The quality of your videos is outstanding, i hope you never run out of projects and inspiration to upload more of them!

  • @chrissymon1001
    @chrissymon1001 4 роки тому +2

    Honestly Geoff, your videos are top notch. Great work

  • @balancedben
    @balancedben 4 роки тому +3

    Lovely job on the visuals in this episode!

  • @drooten
    @drooten 4 роки тому +1

    I enjoy your sense of humour and have always enjoyed your videos. Thanks

  • @adriaanvansorgen4977
    @adriaanvansorgen4977 4 роки тому +4

    Already the best part of my weekend. Thanks Geoffrey!

  • @theoompalompa
    @theoompalompa 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome story telling. Up there with this old tony.
    Love it

  • @faidrosavdis
    @faidrosavdis 4 роки тому +1

    Such a pleasure to watch!
    Thank you for taking the time to present your excellent work!

  • @zukowski2023
    @zukowski2023 4 роки тому +1

    Geoffrey! Glad to see a new posted video, the opening was hilarious and well done. The trick with the bushing and key ways was bloody brilliant! Nice to see your still "with us" and have not succumbed to the "sickness". Stay Safe Thanks for the share!

  • @ScarredRealist
    @ScarredRealist 4 роки тому +2

    I'm glad it's not just my belt guard that rattles .. parting off makes it jump around like a mad thing; makes quite the racket when it starts catching the back gear! I mean, not that I'd ever forget and let it do that, you understand.

  • @DDB168
    @DDB168 4 роки тому

    Wow that was brilliant. I just wish I could understood it all :) An 80 thou cut would take out the grid of my entire neighbourhood !

  • @Munky83Nut
    @Munky83Nut 4 роки тому

    Your video editing skills are just as amazing as your explanation of wiring switches. Restrictions in Australia are easing and I've heard it's the same for you guys across the ditch. Cant wait for the next one!

  • @heusiboi4785
    @heusiboi4785 4 роки тому

    As a mechanical engineer, that was the best eletrical drawing I have ever seen! It cured my electrophobia a little

  • @johndavies2396
    @johndavies2396 4 роки тому

    Just makes your day when a Geoffrey video comes up great! Stay safe down there in New Zealand cheers from the UK

  • @jeffwallace2201
    @jeffwallace2201 4 роки тому +3

    Hope you and those you love are well!

  • @mikemichelizzi2023
    @mikemichelizzi2023 4 роки тому +3

    Great video - perfect amount of cowbell!

  • @georgespangler1517
    @georgespangler1517 4 роки тому

    I use treadmill motors on my lathes,,,can't beat them,, do quiet and smooth and the soft start is so much easier on the lathe and I love the speed control, no more pulley changes

  • @theflyingfool
    @theflyingfool 4 роки тому

    Loving the diagrams and explanations, even though they meant absolutely nothing to me... not being electrically minded you see. Nice to see you're OK and still posting. Now you have a challenge, since this video has raised the bar so much with the sound effects and artwork, people wil be expecting it on the Landie project too!

  • @shonnyNOR
    @shonnyNOR 4 роки тому

    My Pommy mate in Australia, with life-long experience of lathes and similar machinery, considered the best use for a Myford was as anchor for mooring a boat.

  • @MrButtonpresser
    @MrButtonpresser 4 роки тому

    Production values thru the roof! Great stuff.

  • @BravoCharleses
    @BravoCharleses 4 роки тому

    Mr. Croker, your filming, editing, and narration are best in class. Your channel is critically underappreciated. I do my best to pimp it out to interested audiences and I'm always proud to be a patron.
    Any tips for those wishing to start making videos? It seems like when you started you were birthed fully formed from the head of Zeus with the appropriate skills. Even your oldest videos have an extremely high standard of quality. ATB from America.

  • @lotus7even
    @lotus7even 2 роки тому

    Brilliant series Geoffrey I’m looking to buy Myford ML7/Super 7 in UK this has been very helpful and informative

  • @JockeSelin
    @JockeSelin 4 роки тому

    I was listinin to a Kiwi on a podcast earlier today and I was wondering what you were up to and if you were out playing on your big deck, behind the house, but I was wrong, you’d been busy with this there vijeo. Much appreciated. Superb stuff, and glad you kept the angry pixies inside the electrickeryspaghetti. Well done!

  • @erikjohansson1814
    @erikjohansson1814 4 роки тому

    Clearly one of the best UA-cam channels on..., well UA-cam.
    Been bong watching and it is a blast.

  • @craigtate5930
    @craigtate5930 4 роки тому

    Really like hiw you handled the keys on the bushing. Great idea

  • @keirfarnum6811
    @keirfarnum6811 4 роки тому

    That thing is quiet compared to the Atlas/Craftsman. Looks really beautiful. You did a great job restoring it.

  • @markthompson2158
    @markthompson2158 4 роки тому

    Great video Geoff, the work on those bushings was tops.
    Cheers
    Mark

  • @tanathos0414
    @tanathos0414 4 роки тому

    So glad you decided to upload after a long wait.

  • @chrisperry7963
    @chrisperry7963 4 роки тому

    Oh man, worth being in lockdown to have this stellar content! Thank you!

  • @supervivet911
    @supervivet911 4 роки тому

    Good to see you back in business again, mate!

  • @robertpartsmade5832
    @robertpartsmade5832 4 роки тому

    Glad to have you all back , excellent as always ....
    Regards
    Robert
    Partsmade
    🇬🇧

  • @BlackBirdMax
    @BlackBirdMax 4 роки тому

    Love your videos. It's a real treat when they come up.

  • @tom18181
    @tom18181 4 роки тому +1

    Great to see another video from you again. Cheers

  • @derekddanderson1
    @derekddanderson1 4 роки тому +20

    Why not replace the bearings on the old motor

    • @DavidWalling
      @DavidWalling 4 роки тому +19

      After dismantling the motor, he wouldn't have had access to the lathe to turn down the wrong-sized bearings he would have somehow had acquired to replace the bearings on the motor he uses to run the lathe.

    • @GeoffreyCroker
      @GeoffreyCroker  4 роки тому +26

      It has capacitors hanging off the side with cable ties and a wiring box that looks like a pile of bird s**t.

    • @iTeerRex
      @iTeerRex 4 роки тому +1

      Yes, I was thinking the same. Replace the cap and bearings and its good to go.

    • @FilaretX
      @FilaretX 4 роки тому

      can find the native engine? Sorry for my english)

    • @diltzm
      @diltzm 4 роки тому

      Might not be the bearings, a bad capacitor will also cause a motor to run rough. The current in an inductive circuit (the motor) needs to lag the voltage by 90° for the motor to run smoothly. If the capacitor is worn out the voltage and current will be in the same phase and it'll run like shit.

  • @who-gives-a-toss_Bear
    @who-gives-a-toss_Bear 3 роки тому

    Step key and slotted bush would work.
    Maybe as you did but with the keys at 90 degrees not 180.
    Both with clamp screws, better holding and alignment.
    Recommended for slide fit pulleys.

  • @johnkingston7244
    @johnkingston7244 4 роки тому

    Very much enjoy your videos - just catching up on your back catalog (hence why 6 months behind everyone else!) Very clear, well edited and I enjoy that quirky antipodean humour... Now gotta wait for the next Landy episode.

  • @tojiroh
    @tojiroh 4 роки тому

    Fond memories of doing restoration work on a 60's Schaublin 135 lathe during my internship... Busted knuckles, oil drenched overalls and swear words included. Hope to get my own one day!

  • @petedig5809
    @petedig5809 4 роки тому

    Good to see you back. You are the Yin to Maximus Ironthumper Yang.

  • @FliesLikeABrick
    @FliesLikeABrick 3 роки тому

    Personally I probably would have gone with the single T-profile key. At the time you were considering the options, my reasoning was that this way the power is transmitted from the motor to the pulley via the key . With the 2-key solution, the motor power is transmitted via the motor key, the adapter bushing (which has very little cross-section by the longer key), and then the second key.
    Then as the video progressed, it became apparent that the extra machining for the one-piece key would have been made up for by the modifications to the other keys, welding, etc.
    Great outcome either way. I hope that broken motor went into the stash or to someone that fixes it -- it's probably something simple and/or educational to fix

  • @philiprogers5772
    @philiprogers5772 4 роки тому

    i swapped both my old belts for linked belts. Wow what a difference. Much quieter.

    • @GeoffreyCroker
      @GeoffreyCroker  4 роки тому +1

      I run a link belt on the main pulleys. Agree. I would have done that except that they are crazy expensive to buy here. As soon as Amazon is shipping international again, I will be buying a few metres of the smaller size.

  • @accckiy
    @accckiy 4 роки тому +2

    Long time no seen. Nice to have you back. Thought never see you again.

  • @MadeInGreatBritain
    @MadeInGreatBritain 3 роки тому

    Geoffrey, ditch the top slide and make yourself a solid tool post mount that bolts directly to the cross slide. You’ll notice a huge improvement in rigidity.
    You can save the top slide just for turning tapers and the like.
    Darren

  • @pkuukas
    @pkuukas 4 роки тому +5

    Ayeh, ayeh! AvE-reference appreciated

  • @theDaftman
    @theDaftman 4 роки тому +2

    TWAT !! made me jump with that fire ball at 80 thou lol, thanks for your upload.

  • @cantsolvesudokus
    @cantsolvesudokus 4 роки тому

    the animations are top notch!

  • @jayoliver3734
    @jayoliver3734 4 роки тому

    Heroic work from the little lathe!

  • @danieltaylor9970
    @danieltaylor9970 4 роки тому +1

    Are you missing the little spring clip on the belt cover where your little rubber bung is? Also are your oilers originals or replacements, my ml7 is missing both.

    • @GeoffreyCroker
      @GeoffreyCroker  4 роки тому

      Whaaaat!! I think you're right. Now that you mention it I vaguely remember something about a little clip and not putting it back on.... hmmmmmm

  • @CraigLYoung
    @CraigLYoung 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @davidkerr4023
    @davidkerr4023 4 роки тому

    Great videos Geoff, Thanks mate.

  • @tomlee7966
    @tomlee7966 4 роки тому

    awesome drum switch explanation thanks for the videos

  • @AT16
    @AT16 4 роки тому +1

    Great video Geoffrey. Liking the animations, helps to explain things much better. But next time you need to get yourself one of the Newton Tesla units!

  • @coreygaydos1
    @coreygaydos1 4 роки тому

    Another awesome video, we need more vids, they are super informative, good job!!

  • @tomk3732
    @tomk3732 3 роки тому

    In drum switch if you number terminals on the left 4 5 6 and right 1 2 3 you connect TERMINAL i.e. thing in your motor that never have power to 4. Then the wire that has no power and instructions say interchange to 5. Line to motor is 6, line from outlet is 3, neutral is 2 from outlet and connects directly to motor. Finally 1 is the wire in the interchange that normally has power going forward. Draw it out and it becomes clear. The Terminal connection is the key.

  • @CreaseysWorkshop
    @CreaseysWorkshop 4 роки тому +1

    The excellent video really well done. Those lever switches are a bit lethal though because you can easily knock them on. Especially when you are messing with the change gears. A stop button in line wouldn't be a bad idea. How powerful is the motor?

  • @PhilSTUDIOSS
    @PhilSTUDIOSS 4 роки тому

    I once turned Stainless Steel on a Vöest Lathe.
    With 5mm depth of cut and decent Feedrate.

  • @MrWaalkman
    @MrWaalkman 4 роки тому +1

    @7:55 Finally, technology that I can understand!

  • @BalancedLugger
    @BalancedLugger 4 роки тому +2

    I love these videos!

  • @ajuan2005
    @ajuan2005 4 роки тому

    Great video!! take care and see you next time!!

  • @jrodd999
    @jrodd999 4 роки тому

    Thank god hes back! Love your videos!

  • @chrisunderhill6527
    @chrisunderhill6527 4 роки тому

    It's many years since I machined anything, but I have fond memories of being an apprentice and making the chips fly off a lovely shade of blue. Fantastic until one goes down the collar of your overalls and you start doing a merry dance...

    • @GeoffreyCroker
      @GeoffreyCroker  4 роки тому +1

      It takes a bit to get blue shards flying off a little lathe like this 😁

  • @oliverworks5469
    @oliverworks5469 4 роки тому +1

    Just incredible

  • @nzoomed
    @nzoomed 4 роки тому

    Im from New Zealand and also have recently bought an ML7, I saw your idea for machining new leadscrew nuts and am in the process of finishing them off, ive also decided to convert to metric at the same time and make new dials for it. I got some new feedscrew and will machine it to take the handles.
    Would love to have a chat about a few things if thats possible :) Thanks for the vids, keep it up!

  • @caffienatedchaos
    @caffienatedchaos 4 роки тому +16

    Clicked faster than the springboks making bad decisions on the pitch.
    Ninja edit: You used the old motor to make a bush for the new motor. You truly are heartless. Spare holes are always nice. I keep a few myself.

  • @JxH
    @JxH 4 роки тому

    @24m15s (near end): Interesting how the speed of chip formation (chip growth unit length per unit time) seems to be so much slower than the surface speed (RPM and circumference converted to same speed units) of the material. Perhaps it's just an artefact of the camera. Or perhaps the material in the curly chip has been accordioned on a tiny scale.

  • @Preso58
    @Preso58 4 роки тому +1

    Great video. I love the animations and the supporting SFX. Care to share what software you use?
    Regards, Mark Presling, Australia

    • @GeoffreyCroker
      @GeoffreyCroker  4 роки тому

      The basic drawings were done in Affinity Designer (Illustrator knock off). And the wires and movement in Apple Motion. I think both programs are a bit crap btw

    • @Preso58
      @Preso58 4 роки тому

      @@GeoffreyCroker ahhh, you're an Apple man. I'm one of those Microsoft Neanderthals. Great job nonetheless.

  • @TomMakeHere
    @TomMakeHere 4 роки тому

    Great work
    Way quieter

  • @kvsteve
    @kvsteve 4 роки тому +1

    You've made us all proud.

  • @MrEyad1990
    @MrEyad1990 4 роки тому

    why you havent welded the key to the pulley to the shaft all together??

  • @SeanBZA
    @SeanBZA 4 роки тому

    Sheet of rubber between the mounting plates, along with a rubber washer top and bottom of the plate on the motor and base will damp a lot of that vibration down. Just remember to add a ground wire from the motor terminal block through to the body of the lathe, so that static charges can be neutralised.

  • @davidnordblom406
    @davidnordblom406 4 роки тому +1

    Fuck I miss New Zealand! Helps to hear your voice though. Glad you’re doing ok!

  • @Jconway651
    @Jconway651 4 роки тому +1

    I put a 1hp 3 phase motor with VFD on my myford. Totally transformed it, as my old motor was knackered. Although to be honest it’s too much motor for the lathe.

    • @GeoffreyCroker
      @GeoffreyCroker  4 роки тому

      Yeah. 3 phase with vfd is the way to go with everything. I would have gone that way if I had to buy a motor.

  • @infernalcontraptions
    @infernalcontraptions 4 роки тому +1

    Someone been watching AvE? Huh? Huh? You UA-cam guys...;-) Great vid and nice to have you back!