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Mark Bell & Ed Coan DON'T Talk Steroid Use | Power Bites
I think whoever posted this video was rick rolling people. Trying to get people to watch by adding the steroids tag.
Side stepped that question pretty quick
Why do ppl always beat around the bush when it come down to steroid talk smh that’s why I like Larry wheels he’ll tell u exactly the stack he is on now and what he’s used in the years of takin them. QUIT THE BS ABD BE REAL!!
Luison Fit because it's literally illegal lmao.
I know guys who juice better than Larry and they are not even close to his strength level. Bodybuilding and and particularly strength training are way bigger than just steroids.
Saying on camera that you use steroids is enough for police to get a search warrant and raid your house. That's why.
Because these guys are old school guys .
To add to all of the obvious and good points some of you guys have already shared. If these guys give out their exact cycles and dosages, some idiotic kid, beginner or someone totally ignorant of gear will without a doubt, buy everything required for that exact cycle and take it..thinking that it will allow them to break world records. One thing that I have learned in the gym over the last 2 decades is that otherwise normal people will do absolutely idiotic things when it comes to gear. Their expectations are absolutely insane. If you know nothing about gear and think that it is going to change everyone over night, you have NO business even talking about ..let alone using it.
Imagine how strong Mike O’hearn could be if he took steroids!!
Mike o Tren is The Nattiest-Natty. Its Crazy to Imagine him on gear!
@@nickrambo Pretty sure that site is fake or just the gov't/police setting people up
@@TSNorm lol. Government doesn't give a fuck about steroid users, they don't set them up. They are looking for large distributors. You're saying this because you're a scammer promoting your own business in the comments to this video
@@nickrambo LOL You're a moron. I suggest you show me where I am promoting something. You're some dipshit trying to scam people. Apparently you're just stupid kid if you think the government doesn't care about people buying steroids.
@@TSNorm show me who got scammed? Bring evidence or shut the fuck up.
Ed coan = Common sense. I've never heard this guy complicate anything. His intelligence is often overlooked because of his physical prowess.
It's funny watching three guys dance around questions.. none of them will be where they are right now without them bottom line.
Yep. Would never admit it though. Old school powerlifter John Kuc admitted his lifts down when off it.
These are a bunch of 'great' suckers
roids
When I took steroids for the first time, I was 18. I took methandienone, a flat dose of 5 mg per day for 40 days in a row. Before I started, my bench press was 105 kg. On the 40th day, my bench press was 135 kg. 2 months later, without taking anything, it was still 135 kg.
The ROIDERS might as well put pillows under their clothes and walk around.
ROIDERS are FAKES!
Stay natural buddy!
@@steroidsR4losers
The NATTIES might as well put their heads under the pillows and cry.
NATTIES are WEAK!
Take steroids buddy!
ROIDERS are FAKE & UNHEALTHY!
NATURALS are LEGIT & HEALTHIER!
Stay natural buddy!
So you took steroids as a nookie and didn't train right after. Pretty common
We see how FAKE these STEROID users REALLY are when they finally can't take their STEROIDS because they got ARRESTED/in PRISON or the doctors tell them to come off because of health PROBLEMS...there goes those FAKE STEROID muscles they been HIDING behind!
ROIDERS are FAKES!
Stay natural buddy!
Mark Bell's brother made a documentary (Bigger Stronger Faster) that answers this way better
Jesus Mark there called headphones not sunglasses
Why is that guy on the left even there?
Peter D. because hes fat
He is their dealer lol
Peter D. Hahahaha
Cailers 700lbs deadlift u mentioned is him 20+ yrs old. Aint no natty deadlifting 700 raw while being 16.
ChallengingGravity No steroid is gonna make you deadlift 700 pounds if you ain’t deadlifting over 650 any way. People think steroids are the be all or end all. Most of these guys are genetic freaks to begin with any way.
ToffeeAppleBandLTD that's total horshit.
Mark Henry
I’m 17 and I’m running test tren and dbol.
ToffeeAppleBandLTD although genetics aren't being defined in these arguments, I wouldn't say that I have 'great' genetics but I can't imagine not adding 75-100lbs to my deadlift taking testosterone. I think that a good comparison here is how much of a difference TRT makes in guys who have low T. If I already have good levels, and then add to that, I would expect the gains to be comparable.
Ed Coan didnt mention his permanent ban from the International Powerlifting Federation due to failed drug tests. xD
What raw total does Ed think he could get at his prime? That's the question
Probably still over 1000kg in wraps
At 18 I benched 335 at 167. In college by senior year I got 375 at 180 and thought I was super man until I realized I had not gained shit in 4 years. I thought I had gained a lot because I started squatting and deadlifting in college and dramatically improved those lifts. My deadlifts and squats in four years was close to 600 each and I started doing bent over rows which went from 135 for 3x10 to 365 for 3x8. Then the year after college things changed and in 1 year I weighed 205 and benched 405 for 5 reps, rowed 425 for 5, deadlifted 635 for 5 sumo style. By 45 each of those lifts increased by a whopping 40-60 pounds each although the rows got lighter as I only used a chest supported variety. I weight about 207 and My squat and deadlift were under 700 for squat and over for deadlift and bench was at about 475-500 (I would get 3 sets of 3 paused with 435). This was not natural so how far did I really get. Play I realized I didn’t have the discipline to eat what needed to be eaten to get my body weight I love to get in those big numbers. I was happy with my strength and my size and of course I had three surgeries in the shoulder reconstruction. Unless you’re competing there’s no reason to use anything other than TRT when you get older because overtime if your just interested in general strength I believe you can get as strong as I was at the same weight with the same look if you pay attention to training intelligently. I trained correctly for what I was doing, but I was a little bit reckless and I could’ve trained with much less weight and achieved as good results or better Because I would not injure myself. In college I was partying all the time and achieved well over double bodyweight bench And nearly tripled body weight lift in the squat and deadlift Without looking like a total freak Retaining a lot of athleticism my friends who are all using at the time Certainly attracted attention cosmetically, but most of them were not as strong as I was Especially pound for pound. Somewhere a little stronger but weighed about 75 pounds more. The others weren’t as strong and weighed 20 to 50 pounds more
Ed is such a likable, humble guy. Always a good guy to listen to for lifting and life.
Azul Simmons I met him at the Arnold he was awesome and seemed legitimately honored that I looked up to him.
Tell that to the Judge at the COURTHOUSE!
STEROIDS are ILLEGAL!
Stay natural buddy!
Ed should tell his stack when he got popped twice by the IPF. Popped for nandrolone, but surely it wasn’t just deca. Was it just test and deca? Was their D-bol or Anadrol??
The most important thing here is how in the hell do they even manage deadlift and squat workouts on the latter two with the horrendous lower back pumps that accompany them. They can be all but debilitating and shut the workout down for the next half hour. It can make tying your shoes or anything where you bend at the waste for half a second brutal.
No unsolicited responses, serious inquiries only.
The back pump from gear wont stop you from lifting heavy
Only if you do fluff puff and pump movements
Ungeared will never beat geared in top level competition, sorry
Im realy worried about the side affect of acsess hair growth on my body by using steroids, can anyone recommend a roid that doesn't cause hair growth on the body such as arms, back body ext
I've nothing against assisted or unassisted. I was a top level amateur bodybuilder back in the 90's. I knew a number of top powerlifters then. I'll be competing in M2 GBPF next year obviously unassisted. Yes with the right mental approach and consistency an unassisted athlete can lift big numbers. I have the uttmost respect for Ed and like watching Marks videos BUT this either avoiding the question or being very naive (I'm guessing not). It's very very easy to get around and beat any drug test a Powerlifting Federation will undertake.
Dancing around the question. Man up and admit what you use or used. Nobody thinks you guys have always been clean
"Mike T is a genius"
Agreed
Is raw natural? Is the testing effective?
I mean, I don't like this dishonesty about steroid use, every top athlete, every top powerlifter or weightlifter used something at some point. It is stupid to assume that these guys can lift the way they lift and look the way they look without taking at least test. Just use yourself as an example of how hard it is to progress and how everything needs to be on point in order to make a significant progress in lifting.
Just fucking be honest about it, no one cares anyway.
Why tf should they say anything if nobody cares either way? Risk losing sponsors just cos you wanted to explain sum shit to a rando online (who already assumes they know what they take n will underplay the hard work that goes into that) people are entitled af with the shit that got nothin to do with em but fr I agree ion understand why so many people care so much about shit others are doing 😂😂
Why put the video up if its just avoiding the question
With all due respect i dont believe for a second anyone competing at the the top level of powerlifting is natural.
First podcast I heard With mark was in the beginning with the Lilly podcast. Same subjects still huh.
Who else jumped off the mark bell train well the sell out signs started popping up 3 years ago
Haha that’s the extract time 2018 ? I stoped following him he definitely sold out but I guess that what happens when you get money
Best poop story ever!
Ed Coen is like Bob from That 70s show if he was the greatest powerlifter ever
Why do they have to get all defensive?? They just asked what and how much was used. Stop talking about how steroids dont even really do that much, wasnt the question at all.
I love these guys
Doesn't matter if your drug tested or not a lot of power lifters and bodybuilders both know that slot of these steroid compounds have very short half-lifes and when to come off of them before a bodybuilding show or a powerlifting meet cause they are going to want to pass the drug test .
Looks like he had a big ass afro with that wall background.
Ed Coen’s routine will give you the Herculean physique. Or it will get you close. My weakness were my traps, upper pecs, obliques, and if it weren’t for my love for Bruce Lee, I probably would have needed to work on my forearms
I've got a 570 squat, 555 deadlift (I deadlift like 10 times a year only, need to work on that) and a 365 bench. I'm happy with my numbers Natty, but eventually curiosity will get the best of me. I can accept that people can get crazy good strength on deadlifts and squats. Bench though, I'd have a hard time believing anyone benching 500 or more isn't on something.
Gore4ever FulciLives Agreed. I workout with 2 brothers that are BUILT for bench. They've been powerlifting for 20 years, and are Natty. The one has hit 440lbs and age 37. Wants to try to hit 500 in his 40's. He's 39 now. Weighs 235 typically, sits at about 25 perectn bodyfat. Height at 5 ft 8. Short, huge arms. Big chest. He MIGHT be the closest thing I've seen to an exception. He MIGHT hit 500. But lately, his strength has been plateauing.
bmoc888 I agree with you in that 500 or even that close to it is essentially unattainable for a natural. Bench also seems like something you’re either born to do or not in my opinion. Like Mark benched so much as a teenager, and his out of shape mom benched more than most men who don’t workout. I know a guy who’s diet and training is terrible and he’s tiny, but he can bench without even trying. Benches more than he deadlifts. The guys who could naturally bench 405+ if they train and recovery properly for many years are the guys who were just born to do it. Like think of Kirill Sarychev or Eddie Hall. They’re probably men who’s bench would still be up there without drugs. Speaking of which, I was at IPF worlds. A guy benched 620 like it was a joke. So easy for him, fast bar speed, could have gone way heavier if he was just going for a bench record. And the IPF is “natural” lmao. Meanwhile there’s guys with veiny forearms and massive delts weighing 330 lb men in the super heavy class. I think most of the guys in the 100kg class were either natty or close to it though.
The tallest human ever was 8ft11 and wasn't even done growing for all we know some human could have unlimited strength potential someone might be able to just deadlfit 1000 than rest for a week and do 1001 and rest and do 1002 forever they would just pr forever until they die
Nicholas Dimedio obviously they were done growing, cause they died!
The reason people don't think you can do those numbers is because of limits to human physiology other than just muscles. Check out Eddie Hall's world record equipped deadlift where he legitimately almost died. It's not just about being bigger and stronger at some point, the strain is absurd.
Dan Seabaugh eddie hall believes he can pull 550kg 1212 pounds he even said after the 500kg he kept training deadlfit and he was still getting stronger hell this guy claims natty believes he can pull 900 naturally m.ua-cam.com/video/7E8M9wdyiVs/v-deo.html
Leave em guessing, try em out for YOURSELF. Stack it up.
So much stuff over the counter that they don' mention.Even things that were banned in 2004 are still available on the black market. Superdrol is one, another are dht derivatives,all in oral form,also formastane. Formastane is out of the system in 5 days
During teen years progress is obviously faster than after 20's. Though in 20's it is much faster than at 30 and 40, but weight gain ,that is lean weight gain can be an obvious sign of PED use. A gain of 10 lean lbs in less than a year for someone other than a teen beginner ,would be unrealistic natural
Nah the fact is they all on it.
all on it
I always thought Raw meant no supporting gear other than a belt and knee sleeves (wraps in some contest). I did not think it meant no gear outside of a “tested” organization. I am not one to doubt What can be accomplished naturally because the people wait until their 20s to try a cycle of test and anadrol might take their 405 bench and 600 squat at 200 pounds to 455 and 675 in 4 months at 225. They Will never make gains like that again that rapidly although their cycles will get much bigger . Then at 35 and 260 they bench 540 and squat 800. Had they stayed they remained natural they probably would hit 460 and 700 at a softer 242. That’s the huge difference. The only guys that turn Into freaks overnight are bodybuilders who take tons of shit (steroids dramatically increase size quickly but strength comes more slowly regardless although it improves rapidly at first. Usually strength increases only with their weight after a year or so. The drugs like oral anadrol and d-bol produce strength in the form of A leverage improvements predominately in the muscles around the chest shoulders triceps and quads. Steroids do very little for your dead lift because bloating and water retention doesn’t help that. The squat and the bench press primarily benefit. Although much of the proceed strength will be in the form of rep range with heavyweight. Your max may only glow up 40 to 70 pounds and your first big cycle. However if you were only capable of getting 275 for 6 reps the leverage and spring in your joints may result in you performing 11 reps. The truth is your 1 rep max improved about 15%. An 18 year old with 275 bench and 425 squat becomes a 250 lean bodybuilder at 24 and benched 3&5 and squats 565. Of course he tells everybody that he can bench 600 and squat 800 and his first chest exercise is bench with his training partners hand on the bar as he gets 425 for 8 with 75-100 pounds of assistance which is hard to detect when you are being spotted with only 10% more than your max and some meat head who can lift 75-100 pounds in a fake spot with little effort.
Raw is about equipment. Thats it
I think we need more truth about steroids, they definitely help, someone that can max bench 400 naturally will do more with steroids, but we need to know the dangers
Google
There's a British strongman, he's about 13st but he has the strength of an 18st strongman....Andy bottomley,
Know that alot
Mediocre lifters want to hear all the greats admit their strength was due mainly to steroid use so they can feel good about themselves. Strength training is a very broad field. I've seen guys with ridiculous lifting techniques and lifestyles trying to get more steroids to improve their lifts. Many believe that the best guys are always on better steroids. Such thinking always leads to the guys achieving nothing and destroying their bodies with steroids
Forgot the anadrol lol
The thing is if steroids didn’t help these guys lift then why did they take them?
EXACTLY. the only people playing down what steroids do for you are the very people taking them. Work it out!
They said, word for word, that steroids made them stronger. Your Ministry sucks btw
Mike HITO they downplayed the difference between stacks of steroids, dumbass. They said WORD FOR WORD that steroids helped them.
Dan Seabaugh some people only hear what they want to hear.
David Bond the opioid culture is out of hand, I'll happily take the steroid culture.
Taking steroids while you are still a teenager is unbelievably stupid.
Drug test don’t mean anything, there are formulas that are always ahead, so in reality the people doing the test are always behind, by the time they figure it out there is a new improve formula to avoid fail tests. Why can this big men just be honest about it.
They didn't answer the question. They only spoke in vague generalities.
I would be more impressed if there is a completely natural person who has used absolutely nothing, just eat a balanced meal and sleep. I mean no damn creatine, no amino acid supplements, nothing, and doesn't look bloated...
Deadlifted 425 in high school at 17 180 pounds and this is while playing soccer, i’m sure if i trained hard i could of got to at least 600
Big Red thats good and trust me anythings possible when you working hard because i weigh 160 and deadlift 405 and i only been lifting for 1 year now
in high school? 0 chance, can you even do it now? i bet not, the first big number like 300 or 400 is easy, try adding 100 pounds to an already heavy lift though.
I also deadlifted 420 around 18 years old btw.
Jeremiah John y hate u don’t know what he could and can’t do just because u can’t do it doesn’t mean he can’t every body genetic make up is different
The ROIDERS might as well put pillows under their clothes and walk around.
ROIDERS are FAKES!
Stay natural buddy!
Legend
At least THESE DUDES ARE acknowledging that STEROIDS EXIST ♦️♣️♥️♠️
Testosterone cypionate, dianabol, and deca.
The reality is these are recovery compounds. And allow those who can lift crazy weight the ability to heal and keep doing the sport.
Never realised how wide Ed was...
Jonathan Read ed's jacked
Ed still pulling 600 pounds easily
Dang, really?
The ROIDERS might as well put pillows under their clothes and walk around.
ROIDERS are FAKES!
Stay natural buddy!
I think what they were trying to say is that you don't automatically hit records once you start taking steroids. Seems like everyone wants to discredit someones accomplishments and just say STERIODS. It's a majority of the comment section now.
It's not that complicated, steroids will make you a fuck load stronger. If you are weak and take steroids you will get stronger, if you are astrong and take steroids, you will get even stronger. Steroids totally work and there is a reason why elite athletes take it.
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Sport implies fairness, a level playing field. If one is taking steroids / peds, then please compete non-tested. Its ok. Honest must be the norm & enforced by lifter & league
I can also understand that steroids may be needed for purely medical reasons. In which case that lifter must be honest about the steroid use and compete non-tested
If all that is not the case, then why take steroids, atleast purely for performance, when a mechanical crane would be better to lift more weight ?
I think that Drug-free strength & skill levels are key measures of what nature has truly enabled in nature, the ultimate level playing field. Hopefully there is room to indeed measure that type strength & skill with honesty.
Lastly Steroid usage is not a healthy life-style. Hopefully there is room to also get that message out also.
Natural lifters breaking the records of gifted lifters on gear. Yeah that makes sense....Why must all these guys bullshit everybody? Enough already.
I’m 54 years old. Tired of all these middle age UA-camr Fake Natties disingenuously pushing/promoting ridiculous lifting lifestyle. Think long game and functional strength fellow middle age dudes.
Awkward...
I see a lot of people getting butthurt about them not fully going in depth about steroids. People don't understand that this isn't something that you can just tell people all these stacks and dosages, it becomes a liability especially for someone who owns a business like Mark. Secondly yes of course steroids help, they never said that it didn't, but what they are saying is that steroids aren't a magical substance that will automatically make you this freak of nature. Genetics still play a massive role in how someone will respond to steroids and that there will be that 1% of people out there who are just naturally strong af. Science has discovered there is a genetic limit to how much muscle someone can put on naturally, but they haven't discovered a genetic limit when it comes to strength
It's also enough for police to get a search warrant and raid your house. That's why you can't just say on camera "here's what I'm taking right now."
Eat clen and tren hard!
Lol natural 705 deadlift. Drug tested lol. In his opinion are natural.
A bombs
Gym candy.
Marcus uses roids?
We learned nothing because y’all said nothing
You can’t compare today’s lifters to older days... older days was true strength unlike today - enhanced lifters . No lifter today should be record holders with all the drugs they take
Furious Pete deadlifted 700 natty
Yeah Ed im sorry but im gonna break ur deadlift record at 181class someday while natty.
ChallengingGravity 😂
Lmfao
Lmao
Doesn’t matter tho does it
These guys don't look big. Not using the right stuff I guess
You gotta be kidding me all 3 are legends they just need Captain Kurt Karwaski
Ha ha this was a joke. Terrible show. Coan's body melted away and looks soft !!
Bull crap. All on drugs. How do u compete when everyone uses different steroids and amounts.