Mark Rippetoe interviews Ed Coan and Marty Gallagher
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- Опубліковано 1 лис 2012
- Rip talks with Ed Coan and Marty Gallagher.
Video released June 11, 2012 by StartingStrength.com
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11:54
"I would usually start out with FIVES"
*RIPPETOE STARE INTENSIFIES*
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5s are were well umm do you know why 5s?
lol it true
@Caden Jack wtf are you talkin about
This is one of the greatest interviews of one of the best lifters ever. There should be a million views of this. This man has what it takes and that’s what makes a champion. Young people PLEASE listen to him.
Take away the STEROIDS and watch as the FAKE STEROID muscles WITHER away!
ROIDERS are FAKES!
Stay natural buddy!
"His (Kirk's) stupid 405 bench press" -Marty
Excuse me while I go find my masculinity.
when someone's poverty bench is better than your deadlift XD
Ed: “He (squatted) straight upright, because he had these monster friggin’ legs...”
Marty: *off camera* “Because He squatted straight upright.”
Classic Marty... 😂😂😂
Take away the STEROIDS and watch as the FAKE STEROID muscles WITHER away!
ROIDERS are FAKES!
Stay natural buddy!
😂
SO HUMBLE! what an awesome guy
Right!? Sets world records in 6 weight classes and is Still so humble.
Lol, this whole setup is like "between two ferns"
lolz
These interviews help me sleep 😁
I do the same it's great. No disrespect to all involved it's just relaxing :)
This was the awesomest interview I've seen in a looooong time.
I feel every answer Ed gave, had an undertone of "I'm not doing anything exceptionally special; I'm just strong, both mentally and physically...that's it."
Take away the STEROIDS and watch as the FAKE STEROID muscles WITHER away!
ROIDERS are FAKES!
Stay natural buddy!
Absolutely superb!!! Coan for me is number 1. Love the comment of Kas when he saw the 1009lb squat..respect from another legend always nice
Brilliant video, thanks for sharing. What great guys!
26:00 is useful if you're looking for a list of people whose form they think is perfect
there are parts of this video where Ed stares into the camera. At first it looks awkward but then I feel him staring into my soul and I feel like a little bitch.
Great interview, I for one think geared powerlifting only makes powerlifting foggy and numbers tough to relate to. A perfect example is how it is difficult to compare an all time great like Ed to modern lifters. I feel like the only equipment that should be allowed are knee sleeves, belt and wrist wraps.
lol Gallagher's prediction that no one will come close to Coan's 900 deadlift at 220 really did not hold
I don't think anyone has under the same conditions (2 hour weigh ins, Stiff bar, full meet)
Ed is such a cool and humble guy, great video!
One nugget of info at around 32:00- he trained mainly traditional deadlift and mainly saved sumo deadlifts for the meets.
The only argument I have is against the "nobody will ever come close to what Ed Coan did" mentality. Raw lifting is gaining popularity again (thank god), and it seems like on a daily basis you have more and more guys lifting unbelievable numbers and they aren't even in their prime. Look at Eric Lilliebridge, he is only 23 year old, competes 275, and is Raw, and just totaled 2,353. He has another 10-20 years to do even MORE. Ed's buddy says "nobody will come within a country mile of Ed's 900 deadlift at 220". Well, there is a Russian guy who pulled 861 @ 198 raw. I would say before his career is over he could definitely pull 900+, and that is at 198 vs Ed's 220.
No disrespect to Ed, I have met him more than once, seen him at competitions, talked to him, etc. Another lifter I know if great friends with him. He is a legend in the sport, he is a great guy, and unbelievably kind and humble. However, it is just wrong to suggest that "nobody" will EVER come close to what he did. I mean, some of his records have already been beat.
Could be a equipment matter. shirts, wraps and belt usage has seen some advancements and alterations in rules.
I don't understand? I am not comparing equipped lifting to Ed's numbers, I am comparing modern RAW numbers to his hold numbers (most of which weren't truly "raw", as he was using the original versions of squat suits, bench shirts, etc)
Punchy317 Well If I understand correctly RAW In the Coan, Marty and Kaworski days was just a belt. The end.
Now we have more equipment being used, RAW and otherwise, and the equipment is alot better than anything the Iron Giants ever used. They discuss this in the video and marty express the same thing in his book : The purposeful primitive.
One comparison. Bench shirts. Iron Giant days it ads 40 pounds. In our day and age up to 40 percent (sounds alot to me but that's the quote).
he pulled that 861 in a deadlift only meet, ed did the 901 after squatting and benching. thats a pretty massive difference. also saying "he could pull 901 at 198" is completely a shot in the dark. he may need to gain so much muscle to pull that that it puts him out of the 198 class. re eric lilliebridge, theres a good chance the way wraps are now, he gets the same as ed did out of wraps and a suit. so if he can total more than 2426 or whatever it was, at 220, in wraps, then hes better. if not, ed is still better. if belyaev outpulls him, but coan still totals more, ed is still better.
JImmy Brungis true but in a lower class. i think belyaev could potentially break coans record. we'll see
Great Interview!! Loving Ed's point of view!!!
wow, Rip looked really good being so lean. I bet he was running a lot back then.
lmao 🤣
hahahahaha you right! running a lot
@@jeremypeanutbutter6560 10k a day minimum
Excellent video
Great interview
You can give ANYONE all the peds in the world and and noone will come even close to the totals ed put up @ 220 and 198. On top of that he walked out squats and the gear he was using was basically what would be considered raw today.
Roids arent magic. Yes without them he would not have gotten as strong as he did, the body can't get that strong naturally, but that doesnt discount anything. Do you disregard the physiques bodybuilders have? At the highest levels of bbing/pling drugs are REQUIRED.
"Do you disregard the physiques bodybuilders have?"
Yes, I do, because they all look like shit now.
@@MAGAMAN Fr dude the GH gut just looks awful not even impressive anymore and has completely disintegrated the landscape of true bodybuilding aesthetics.
John Haack would beg to differ 8 years later 😂 it's true though Ed will be a Goat forever
10000% true. I get so sick of ignorant people always thinking and saying something along the lines of “oh well sure he squatted 4x and benched 3x his BW but if I took steroids I would be able to do that too”. Meanwhile these people have been lifting the same weight for 5 years with no signs of progressing whatsoever and it’s due to some combination of poor training plan/program, poor work ethic/discipline, poor nutrition, or poor recovery protocols. Sure if this person took steroids it’s likely that the drugs would help whatever areas this person was deficient in and they would progress. Here the drugs are being used to compensate for lack of other things in the strength and muscle building process, so improvement will be seen. However, without optimizing every facet of training, nutrition, and recovery, while not being coupled with great genetics, then steroids will allow improvement but never will they make someone average into someone extraordinary. All of the pieces must be present in the right ratios to make someone as impressive as Ed Coan.
@@sonderdm8223 Ed Is a legend but yeah this comment has not aged well.
The GOAT!
How have I just found this video?!?! The into music brought me waaaay back.
I remember starting out at Mark Chaillet's gym when Marty was there and all we had was single ply suits and our knee wraps were the new while wraps with the two God stripes. In 3 yrs at Marks I couldn't have had better teachers.
I met Cash, Pacifico, Bridges, and others at that gym near Dayton. There was a pit in the middle of the gym where the floor had broken through - that is where they did heavy deadlifts.
900 for 5? Are you kidding!
I love going back and watching older videos on this channel after following the podcast for a while. You can really see the hue of rip's skin tone progress over the years! Cheers to Rip Van Pinkle! For he is a jolly good fellow.
Awesome !
Man, u gotto love this.
Five six and best power lifter of all time.
Best lifter of all time. I still regret not going to the Mountaineer classic in 01. I had plans to and then shit fell through at the last minute. He grabbed a first place finish. It was the last time he competed too..
Great vid :)
I have a major respect for Ed Coan.
Best video on youtube
Ed coan. A great man. 👍
He mentions Anatoly Pisarenko, a great russian Olympic weightlifter. He lifted in the 110 kilos class.
Marty would start to annoy me, he incessantly speaks when not spoken to, plays the role of big papa, listen to me I know best and more than you
2 legend!
Ed's individual lifts may have been exceed since this video came out ... but a 220 having the all time absolute (regardless of weight class) record total ... THAT is something I don't think we will EVER see happen again.
Take away the STEROIDS and watch as the FAKE STEROID muscles WITHER away!
ROIDERS are FAKES!
Stay natural buddy!
Legends!
Take away the STEROIDS and watch as the FAKE STEROID muscles WITHER away!
ROIDERS are FAKES!
Stay natural buddy!
I met Ed once. Nice guy. Furness gave me a handwritten workout and my lift took off. Progression type and centered on form.
legends of powerlifting
13:57 The track coach at Bucknell has been recommending 5 rep sets for years. I wondered where he got it from.
lmfao Coan chirped the shit out of Lou at 44:05 That was awesome.
love it
I think he's talking about William of ockham regarding the simplest program. It's called Occam's razor
Doing his full program now, finished day one: legs feel like they've been through a blender
Hay. Its been four months. How did the program go? Any gains?
Was a bit much while cutting, a lot of near max work loads. I respond better with programs like sheiko honestly. Everyone's different, i would recommend try it while bulking
Suits me perfectly ;-). Yeah cutting is a bitch. I lost twenty pounds on all the big three the last time but now Im wiser.
Joey Zoida what program?
gimmi the program!
Outstanding video, However I would debate Marty on Ed's superiority over his sport in relation to other athletes in other sports. Gretzky in Hockey, John Brzenk in Arm Wrestling, Cael Sanderson in NCAA Wrestling were all in a different league in their sports, Maybe Kaz in early Strongman... But I believe Ed's all time total were acutely superior to Kaz's all time total, in terms of powerlifting. However from having competed in both the strength of one sport doesn't necessarily transfer into the other.
Thumbs up for mentioning Cael Sanderson.
Those guys are animals, but 14-15% is just unheard of in elite competition
900 x 5 @ 236Lbs BW....
Let that sink in
who?
408 kg * 5 @ 107 kg BW
@@manuelalvarez817 doesn't look as cool.
it's absurdly good
Sickening interview. No cookie cutters here.
Dennis Wright rip. Great squatter.
It depends on what your after. Some people train for size others strength. It just depends on the goal. I get a big kick out of all this smack talk sounds to me like a case of jealousy, ignorance or both. If you think you are the best their is then their is damn good chance your are not. This is what makes Ed such a legend. He walks the walk and refuses to talk the talk.
rippletoes loves some coan!!!
The greatest power lifter ever.
When I first meet Larry back in the mid 80s he was a super nice guy. I remember joining his gym in Dayton called Muscle World back in 1988. About 2 years later his attitude totally changed and we parted ways. I remember a good 5 plus years later he was allot smaller and had moved to another location and was again a pretty nice guy. Overall for most of the time I knew him he seemed to be a very nice guy. I new when he got pissed at me he was having allot of issues at the gym and his personal life. He had gotten into some hot water of steroids. I am not dogging him I still feel he is a pretty good man. Everyone has their ups and downs. Overall he was a much nicer guy than Jim Cash. I get along ok with Jim later on but back in the late 80s he was a total prick.
LOL at how they try to convince ed of how strong he is!
Listening to this in my cubicle and i just want to throw my keyboard out and go lift.
That intro music
Ed Coan used to be 6'2" tall but that was before he started deadlifting.
What the fuck are you doing with your tongue at 48:36? It made me laugh and creeped me out at the same time.
When the war with China begins, I'd like to have people like Ed Coan and captain Kirk at the front. Even at 60 years old they'd kick ass and get the job done.
@Steve O i think Marty and Kirk trained special ops guys
50:44 - 50:54 When Marty tells the story of Ed and Kirk meeting eachother for the first time. Look at Ed’s facial expression. He almost seems spooked when Marty slips up and says: ”I’m gonna bring this kid that I’ve been working IN”. Marty quickly corrects himself and says: ”working WITH”. And Eds expression goes from glad to worried in a split second, then back to being himself. Eery.
Mister Dunkan what...?
What's that about ? Out of curiosity
The thing is a 700lb deadlift with one hand without straps is virtually impossible. I know Hermann Goerner supposedly did it but it's just impossible. Gip strength would be off the human possible chart.
BLUE COLLAR STRENGTH SUPERHERO.
When he says "Doug", is he referring to Doug Young, Doug Hepburn or someone else entirely?
NorthpawJinx No I am almost sure that the "Doug" is Doug Furnas. The most dominant 275 pounder ever
Ramaswamy Narayanan
Correct, Doug Furnas.
Doug Furnas
'To be that far out front of the rest of the pack' I think that distinction goes to Don Bradman, the cricketeer. His batting average is 33% higher than any other player in history.
I think Marty is a bit of an Ed Coan fangirl, but this is still a great interview
The "efficacy of a workout routine" is not being changed by steroids. The only difference when not using and using is the amount of time it takes to reach those results. Anyone who trains and knows anything about steroids should know that much. As far as it being a hushed topic, maybe it would be an ignored subject if the use of steroids was federal crime in the US.
Is it not a federal crime? I thought the Anabolic Steroids Control Act of 1990 specifically made possession, sale, etc of AAS illegal on a federal level.
Hell, you can still get close to that strong without PEDs. The world record for the one handed deadlift was set back before anabolic steroids were created, and it was over 700 pounds.
13:45
hey all, when they're talking about the greatest strength athelete of the 20th century at around 13.05 what is the name that Coan mentions???
what name says at 38:00?
phleidhs
Larry Pacifico
Marty Gallagher looks like Mark Hammil if he lifted.
See, you're almost right, but still off. Test wasn't synthesized until 1935, and work on synthesizing it for human use didn't begin until 1930. All the various animal urine compounds used before then were pretty much bunk.
But does Ed know that? Street fights happen every day. Tyson even got in a couple, one after a traffic accident.
and at 39:00?
phleidhs
Joe Ladnier
17:50
6:30 “nobody will probably ever surpass that 900 deadlift at 220” was beaten by cailler woolam a couple months ago and Yury belkin pulled 970 weighing only 228 last week.
They didn’t have 2 hour weigh ins with a stiff bar. They might be better, but it will always be debatable what was a more impressive feat of strength
Not in a full meet thought right?
228 is not 220 its 242
Those chairs release testosterone
Fuck this makes me wanna squat sets of five
So you have taken some and failed at keeping the muscle on you?
what are PED S
you just proved my point though with all this typing you did. did i say the sport was drug free? no. if you were to gain anything from what i typed, its that i WANT it to be drug free. if everyone were on the same playing field without PEDs,and the best people would still win, then why do athletes take them? or pardon, why are athletes allowed to take them?
Not me. I live on rainwater, sunshine, and kiwi. But I'm not an elite athlete, so never mind. ;}
are they fuckin kidding me? this guy in the slippers must be fuckin ed coan because.... if you are telling me all ed coan did was do his routine, eat, and work hard, and he was able to deadlift almost 1000 lbs you are completely ignoring the fact that this man used PEDs and was suspended and eventually banned from the IPF. it would be INSANE to think that PEDs did not help him break records and the fact that he "worked hard" doesnt absolve him of that.
Did you just call Ed Coan a clown? The guy is a single best powerlifter in the world EVER period. Now first of all lets gets something straight, if we remove steroids out of the equation completely and assume that everyone is exactly the same, the same people will be at the same place because of their dedication, genetics and hard work. You ever see 5'3" linebacker? NO....this is guys are gods in their sport and would have succeeded either way
MY brother train 4-6 reps. .. Why no just do 5s bro
top guys are tested out of meet in ipf its just like wada do your research
This guy can behind-the-neck press 315 x5 and says “There were some guys who were really strong with that lift. But I’m happy with what I did.” Really? I would give my left but to just regular Press 315 for 1! XD
@ 6:30 BABYSLAYER
@220. Babyslayer is fat as shit.
Dane Weeks
And stronger than you will ever be.
George is 350 lol
Tom Martin might beat it.
I don't think
Cont....They are people like you who say that the legends like him only got their cause of the drugs.....NO...Usain Bolt will still be the fastest man with or without the drugs....no matter what....
If there were no such thing as steroids. The numbers would be much lower but the work ethic is still as hard in theses elite lifters. Now, that there is steroids people do enhance their strength tremendously. The first time a person used steroids in competition with others that were natural is cheating. But, since now its the norm....steroids are required. Natural lifters should only be compared to other natural lifters, and vice versa with PED lifters.
I wonder if Ed could fight, though. All that strength vs. Jon Jones at 205 lbs.? Who wins?
Who cares? They are both world class athletes, in their chosen sports. It's like saying Tiger Woods is a great golfer, but who would win a fight between him and Marvin Hagler?
Ed is a world class powerlifter not a fighter. I always get a kick out if this kind of comment. Ed was mentally and physically ment to be a powerlifter not a fighter. This comment shows a lack of intelligence.
Yes, pot belly pigs offer good exercise. I can attest to this! lol
Power lifters. They're talking about strength not as mate
And you have any proof of this 700 pound one-hand deadlift before PEDs i assume? I call total bullshit.
Steroids help with recovery. So it seems reasonable that you can accomplish any thing naturally that you can accomplish on roids it just takes longer. Maybe a lot longer. I think the only exception would be gaining a Mr. Olympia type physique because that would probably take 35 years or more of consistency to achieve naturally and in that time your testosterone and other processes would slow down making it impossible to achieve. This is all just my opinion.
Jacob Ferrell if you can do in 3 years what roider can in 1 its obvious you'll never reach his level because his prime of physical abilty and yours are around the same age(21-27)
your wrong and correct, Yes they ehance recovery but theres alot of roids, some steroids also increase the muscle size itself with makes it more potentioal for strength gains, but thing is steroids get you further than your natural MAX limits. you can get very big and strong naturaly, but it sadly isnt possible ATLEAST not yet to get as big as arnold without enhance
Jacob Ferrell I disagree that steroids solely help with recovery. A study showed that people who took 600test a week (moderate) grew WAYYY more muscle and strength doing ZERO lifting in comparison to naturals doing 3x a week lifting. So yeah you cannot achieve even close to the same things even if given all the time in the world.
I just don't have the same limiting beliefs as you guys
I know this is old, but i gotta say steroids do more than just help you recover. Also there comes a point where you have do more training volume to provide af new adaptation, and progress in size and strength, then what you can possibly recover from naturally.
I don't see why wanting to have abs is so gay when Rips daily affirmation is "I'm a big strong man". In my opinion, the endeavour for man-cans is a profoundly gayer goal than wanting to have have a nicely manicured, vascular, and some times oiled mid section. To summarise, gayness ain't half bad.