Are you going to try Control Hunter at some point? I tried to make it, and even without the Sneedweedle Snipers it was really fun just because it's so different. I never thought I'd say "I should probably keep that to counter the aggro" as a Hunter.
General advice: If a Paladin starts hitting a handlocks face, then he has generally all his board wipe in hand and wants you to play double molten. Here he only had bgh and aldor but it's about the same.
I wish Trump would play more interesting decks. I don't talk about straid up gimmick decks but about something you don't see (often) on ladder. For example an unbound elemental shaman or an enrage warrior. He mostly plays the same shit you face on ladder everyday anyway with mostly 2 or 3 cards changed. (His demonlock really just was a handlock with voidcaller and Mal'Ganis.
Zer0Hour17 Well, I ment with gimmick decks decks that go full gimmick. Like those decks TB uses. I would like Trump to make "gimmick decks" that only more or less slightly revolve around that gimmick but still use other non gimmick cards to make that deck good. Unbound elemental for example uses cards you put in shaman anyway but you still need a little bit more overlode cards to make a good deck with it.
He had lethal in 31:00. He needed to hit the taunt with Sunfury, then Shadowflame the Sunfury (4 mana), owl his Molten (2 mana) and taunt both Moltens with Argus (4 mana), then hit face.
used to be at rank 12 at best (i have like no good cards and i am fairly new to hearthstone) now i invested some money crafted a handlock deck and currently i am rank 5 ... i would not consider me a good player and i only play to accomplish my quests and idk what it is with zoo but i seem to loose too many games with it ...
I can consistently get to ~15ish in one day with Zoo. Literally all you do is play every card in hand on every turn and you win against all the either bad 15+ players or bad 15+ decks that can't handle Zoo.
***** lol im f2p and am currently ladder climbing on rank 8 with a handlocke I was able to craft by disenchanting ALL my cards (except jaraxxus but I got alex out of a pack so yay) ive noticed the key to beating zoo is 2 antique healbots and 2 hellfire and mulliganing hard for them aswell as dark bomb, unless you get hellfire in your hands or some form of taunt, use all your removal immediately as it gets out of hand so fast, I win more than 50% against zoo so im not sure about your experience
is it just me or do these top tier players all play the same deck and it's all about how lucky your card draw is and there is never a surprise. or just me?
It gets pretty interesting at tournaments. like when they play ladder it EH becuase they just play what they think is best against meta to reach legend.
some players try new stuff because of GVG, but before gvg it was just like you said. Wait 2 more months and it will be the same deck over and over again.
To be honest, I like to win. I don't know about you guys, but playing a deck that makes me happy 1/10 games isn't very fun... I'll try to make new decks, sure, but full gimmicks? Some people like that kind of stuff, but really, I hate how people are mad at others for playing meta decks. That's like asking why you use your write essays with your dominant hand. Because you want to succeed? There are some people who like to have fun with gimmick decks and that's fine, but don't cry when I play Zoo and beat you, that was YOUR choice to play a bad deck. Meanwhile, I'll have fun winning games :)
In trump's newer Handlock deck, he replaced the second Healbot with Sylvanas because he didn't have enough threats against Warrior and Druid, I have the same problem but I do not own Sylvanas. I got Toshley from a pack yesterday, can he replace Sylvanas? (same mana) and if not then what should I replace her with?
I spotted an editing boo-boo, Jens. At around 0:55 trump draws an ancient watcher, and the darkbomb counter ticks down instead. Noticed it when Trump had an ancient watcher on the board and it said he still both in the deck lol
I don't know if i just get lucky sometimes with my arena drafts or the high tier players are slow to evolve (which doesn't make any sense), but i have liked Prep -> Sprint for a long time. I don't think i've used it in constructed because i don't like rogue that much, but why hasn't this been a thing before? Maybe the Gadgetzan Auctioneer was just better before, and now it's not. I guess i just find it sad that there was no other rogue than miracle before. Weren't there enough cards to make that possible?
Sylvester Holmes How is that even relevant? Stupid semantical statistics have no place in hearthstone, and dumb comments like this don't serve any purpose when the question was "How is a 1/3 chance 50/50?"
Justin Smith Just to let you in on something - it's an Amaz thing. He usually talks that way with RNG, such as "It's a 50/50 chance to get Angry Chicken with off your webspinner; either you get Angry Chicken or you don't." Don't get too wound up by these guys haha
Wow, I literally JUST played against that rogue deck before watching this video, I was a druid, and stomped that deck, seem pretty weak, or maybe druid is that decks bane, or any extreme late game deck anyway?
@Trump Im playing hearthstone for a while now and i have a few of the most important cards i guess. What do u think are the best decks to go for a high rank ^^? I know its a weird question because u dont know what cards i have exactly and there many decks that are "good" at the moment but i still wanna know what kind of deck u would run with low legendaries ( i have lee roy and Malorne :D)
Well for climbing you should probably start with an aggressive deck until you get a little higher up to make the grind a little shorter And after that I am not so sure
Jo Viljar Haugstulen Agressive decks like hunter rush or mage face spells like fireball and the 10mana 10 dmg spell (i forgot the name) thx for the answer btw
Dwarfy Lp Yeah though Mage rush usually don't use pyroblast (they usually aim to kill you before turn 10) Mage rush those that I have seen have usually used knife jugglers + mana worms + mirror images and sorcerer's apprentices (and just using the images to protect your minions while you just keep hitting face and killing the opponent while you kill them and possibly finish them off with fireballs and frostbolts) And Zoo also works though it is a bit more board control like it is still very aggressive
Trump I was reading the Arena Tier List: Epics and Legendaries artical and you said Mountain Giant but you still have it in your deck and it does play pretty good.
The top 1000 players on each server are called "Legend" rank players. Those players fight against each other to get to *"rank 1 Legend"*.. Trump has managed to do it a few times in the past
monstrousgaara the reason the giants are bad in arena is because you don't wanna get to low health or have a ton of cards in your hand. The reason he runs it in this deck is because this deck is made around those cards, which you can't do in arena
Trump, please, Handlock is so boring. It's mind-numbingly boring. I've seriously, genuinely just started watching these videos to help myself fall asleep at night. It works, too. I drift right off after the first or second game.
So managed to climb four ranks yesterday by going on a nice streak with my own beast druid deck up to rank 5 (havent played mcuh this season). And for some reason it felt like it was struggling today as I didnt gain any stars pretty much maybe one at best. It's weird, because I felt like the deck had a nice balance between dealing with controll and aggro. Yet it felt extremely bad today...super odd.
Don't let it get you down, I've been running a deathrattle priest lately, some days it works like a charm and other days I just want to delete it. If you can find out exactly what is going wrong you should tweak it, otherwise give it another go and see if you get your streak back. Good luck!
Getting to Rank 5 isn't as hard this time of month, since a lot of good players are in legend and you can ride to 5 on winstreaks. Getting any higher is a lot more difficult, especially above rank 3, because a lot of folks are still trying to get into legend before the month ends. Not to say 5 is bad, it's like top 5% of players or something, but keep in mind the deck might need adjustment or replacement to get much further towards legend.
Stonski Magma Rager. Kappa Jokes aside, I don't see how Ogre Brute is a bad card to replace with Ancient Watcher. You need to wait until turn 4 anyways until you can shadowflame and in the meantime you'd put up either Ogre or Watcher. Ogre has the advantage of bypassing taunts and hitting stealthed minions 50% of the time. It also doesn't require an Owl activator or taunt to actually have it be a threat on the board.
It has crazy synergy with Owl, Sunfury, Defender of Argus, and Shadowflame - meaning 6 - 8 activator in a typical Handlock deck. One can either get out what is essentially a Yeti on turn 2, a Sunwalker without the Shield on turn 3, or a Flamestrike on turn 4. All of these will wreck aggro decks pretty hard.
Free to play decks to legend is probbably more difficult now with goblins vs gnomes out. It would be interesting to see if he could still do it somewhat fast. TCG will after all become more and more pay to win unless very little new buyable content, that actually affects the meta, is released.
buckwheat219970 I think so if he got real lucky with packs. As you saw in the video, regular Zoo is still really strong and with gvg packs, pretty much any class can make a strong mech-zoo deck.
Its funny how I think with all the control in the high ranking legends, that mill druid might be a thing when you get into the top tier of players, since it feels like everyone is playing control lol.
I can barely play handlock:((( the deck is so awesome built, having the low cost giants, but if i tap like normal handlock, i literally can t live thorugh aggro... Help me, i ve tried antiaggro handlock, didn t work...
Is there a reason why trump never plays shaman? I think it might be his least played class in the game. I just find it weird since shaman seems like it'd be right up trumps alley.
Chow is usually best against aggro and all of their 2/1 and such And Chow is usually not very good in undertaker decks as they are usually rather aggressive and really don't want the enemy to get healed
Sylvester Holmes well ya see theres piticuler targets that make a "cancer" deck A. its cheap to make so dem f2p nubs can playem B. its aggresive in anyway "WHAT! that stupid zoolock killed me at turn 7 games are supposed to last 30 minutes till one player dies of fatigue!" C.is a main stay in the meta "pff the face hunter is just a mindless netdecker he doesnt see the genius in midrange pirate druid!"
Jude Maxwell Even by your standards handlock fits only one of those criteria, but props for effort. Kibbitz This is how it is in most competitive video games really. It's easier to accept an enemy being "unfair" than you being bad.
I don't understand why trump values so much bgh in handlock vs handlock, since handlock doesn't run the 20 dmg combo anymore, it's not like if you leave a giant alive for one turn you're going to die. Also a handlock has 4 giant and maybe even boom to bgh, so I don't think it's that great a bgh in starting hand...
I play rushy/mech rogue and Loatheb into Galliwyx is just an autowin. Idk why people dont play it more(i guess coz rogue is kinda dead) but that card is insane. Its like a better Ogre that steals spells. But dont play it against miracle tho, coz you just hand them their entire deck lol.
How often do you expect to pull off a combo like that considering they're just two cards out of 30 and you need a decent amount of tempo by turn 5 to actually make it an instawin? My guess: not too often.
simon amorim I was talking about the Rogue class, Handlock can only be Warlock. Semyon Galtsev It doesnt actually do the damage , either one Loatheb or Galliwyx prevents the opponent from casting spells that wipes ur board, and with Mech discounts+backstabs u have pretty big board till turn 5/6 against nothing. After that you can burst down with coldbloods and Tinkers oil and remove taunts with Sap. I have bursted plenty of control decks from 20+ hp in one turn, even warriors with their infinite armor.
Vin4enco I'm not saying it's impossible. Only that one legendary into another seems like a dream scenario. Rogue is pretty much *the* tempo class that doesn't even need that gimmick to win. Even played separately, Loatheb and Gallywix are strong. :)
He doesn't like having the two (gold and non-gold) together, he only wants to do golden if he can do all golden. The only exception is if he only has a gold card, like his normal Cabal and the Golden one
I'm starting to get really sick of handlock. Don't get me wrong, it's a really cool deck, I would probably play it if I had all those expensive epics. But GvG basically brought no new or interesting things to the deck, and it's still one of the most powerful decks in the game. Because it's everywhere I feel like it limits the amount of decks that are in play.
Is it just me, or should The Black Knight be good in this meta? I tried it out in a couple of decks and it won me many games. Handlock is popular in constructed, and you see sludge belcher all the time, not to mention the druid stuff e.g. Druid of the claw. It "combos" with recombobulator, so shouldn't it be good in this meta?
Did anyone else notice he missed lethal on the druid when he was at 4 health? He could have attacked face with both bombs and used the 2 mortal coils in hand...
mutantbroom he does run 2 healbots. ur probably looking at a point in the video where he already used one because whenever he plays a card its subtracted from the counter on the left
Against the druid the better play was to hit face with the boombot then mortal coil it because then darkbomb and hellfire win, instead of killing the bgh
it's just that i never understand value of zombie chow, 100% times i have seen it on board it has screwed over the user by letting opponent getting healed by 5 and barely getting out of the lethal range and landing game changing cards on board.
I just never understand, how do you get lethal turn 1, around the time you should play zombiechow? If you topdeck zombie chow at later stages of the game, then it's just bad draw, any card can be terrible if you draw it at a bad time, it's not a zombie chow specific problem
Dan Dobney This is exactly why there is absolute zero value with zombie chow, it is the "if" you draw it opening hand which is really unlikely, having better 1 mana cards that are usable even in later game are wayyy better to have in your deck. So.... Yeah
I think trump should do like a stream where the chat picks the cards and class through strawpoll and trump picks the strawpoll cards so we don't get like wip's and Footman
It doesn't really matter if he tricks his opponent like that early on. The opponent has already thrown away their cards at the start, there is very little difference in how you'd handle a ZC depending on the deck.
No, Chow is a good choice for Handlock because of the early game board presence it provides and most people who see Chow played by a Warlock won't even think about Zoo because that's mostly an Aggro deck anyways
chow is not an aggro card in the first place bro :) it's for control decks who dont care if their enemy gets healed in the early game .. its about board control :)
I still watch those old videos! Here just to chill and enjoy the game in its best state❤ not overcomplicated, not unbalanced
Shit son, he cut off Lord Jaraxxus' hands and put them in a museum. That takes cojones.
coharrisonjones*
THE GREEN HELIUM Don't rustle his jimmies.
THE GREEN HELIUM
Down's syndrome must be a terrible affliction.
Well, they belonged in a museum..
I don't know how he didn't freak out about that haha
18:45 - Trump - you had the lethal! Two mortal coils, two boombots!
Are you going to try Control Hunter at some point? I tried to make it, and even without the Sneedweedle Snipers it was really fun just because it's so different. I never thought I'd say "I should probably keep that to counter the aggro" as a Hunter.
You deserve a like, sir. I would love to see Trump play CH
Stonski I'm running it without most of the legendaries and epics "required" for the deck and I'm doing okay, not great, but okay with it.
"WHERE DID MY WEAPON GO?" - Jaraxxus, 2014
That Harrison Jones at the end though...
Thank you Trump for using my picture as a cover for this video :D i feel proud now yey xD
Blood fury done got museum'd!
I love that Rogue deck, haven't seen any decks like that before, very interesting.
lol i lost it when trump began singing a katy perry song XD
Man this takes me back to the good ole days
Well played, Trump. It is enjoyable to watch your video.
That harrison... ;____;
General advice: If a Paladin starts hitting a handlocks face, then he has generally all his board wipe in hand and wants you to play double molten. Here he only had bgh and aldor but it's about the same.
20:00 TAAAP!!!! TAAAP! YOU NEED TO TAP!
20:55 Why the fuck did you listen to me?! I don't know what I'm talking about!
His issue was he didn't count the Shade of Nax getting the +1/+1
hmm ...
I wish Trump would play more interesting decks. I don't talk about straid up gimmick decks but about something you don't see (often) on ladder. For example an unbound elemental shaman or an enrage warrior. He mostly plays the same shit you face on ladder everyday anyway with mostly 2 or 3 cards changed. (His demonlock really just was a handlock with voidcaller and Mal'Ganis.
both of your suggestions ARE gimmicks though.
Mill druid is something I really enjoy watching kripp play, it's gimmicky but not as much as you'd think.
Zer0Hour17 Well, I ment with gimmick decks decks that go full gimmick. Like those decks TB uses. I would like Trump to make "gimmick decks" that only more or less slightly revolve around that gimmick but still use other non gimmick cards to make that deck good. Unbound elemental for example uses cards you put in shaman anyway but you still need a little bit more overlode cards to make a good deck with it.
Tikomer problem being trump plays to win
c00l story bro, needs more dragons.
How does trump have the deck thing on the side of his screen? I would like to do this for my stream as well.
Search up hearthstone deck tracker
Thank you!
He had lethal in 31:00. He needed to hit the taunt with Sunfury, then Shadowflame the Sunfury (4 mana), owl his Molten (2 mana) and taunt both Moltens with Argus (4 mana), then hit face.
best harrison jones ever . so much value there
I know that zoo has the potential to go all they way to legend rankings, but what rank should a fairly average player be able to get zoo up to?
Legend
I'd say rank 15 is a good goal for an average player in a month, with casual play.
used to be at rank 12 at best (i have like no good cards and i am fairly new to hearthstone) now i invested some money crafted a handlock deck and currently i am rank 5 ... i would not consider me a good player and i only play to accomplish my quests and idk what it is with zoo but i seem to loose too many games with it ...
I can consistently get to ~15ish in one day with Zoo. Literally all you do is play every card in hand on every turn and you win against all the either bad 15+ players or bad 15+ decks that can't handle Zoo.
***** lol im f2p and am currently ladder climbing on rank 8 with a handlocke I was able to craft by disenchanting ALL my cards (except jaraxxus but I got alex out of a pack so yay) ive noticed the key to beating zoo is 2 antique healbots and 2 hellfire and mulliganing hard for them aswell as dark bomb, unless you get hellfire in your hands or some form of taunt, use all your removal immediately as it gets out of hand so fast, I win more than 50% against zoo so im not sure about your experience
is it just me or do these top tier players all play the same deck and it's all about how lucky your card draw is and there is never a surprise. or just me?
It gets pretty interesting at tournaments. like when they play ladder it EH becuase they just play what they think is best against meta to reach legend.
nope .. just you
trump often makes new decks like mech-druid-deck and Watcha teachin' and stuff
some players try new stuff because of GVG, but before gvg it was just like you said. Wait 2 more months and it will be the same deck over and over again.
Just you... and other misguided people.
To be honest, I like to win. I don't know about you guys, but playing a deck that makes me happy 1/10 games isn't very fun... I'll try to make new decks, sure, but full gimmicks? Some people like that kind of stuff, but really, I hate how people are mad at others for playing meta decks. That's like asking why you use your write essays with your dominant hand. Because you want to succeed? There are some people who like to have fun with gimmick decks and that's fine, but don't cry when I play Zoo and beat you, that was YOUR choice to play a bad deck. Meanwhile, I'll have fun winning games :)
In trump's newer Handlock deck, he replaced the second Healbot with Sylvanas because he didn't have enough threats against Warrior and Druid, I have the same problem but I do not own Sylvanas. I got Toshley from a pack yesterday, can he replace Sylvanas? (same mana) and if not then what should I replace her with?
I spotted an editing boo-boo, Jens. At around 0:55 trump draws an ancient watcher, and the darkbomb counter ticks down instead. Noticed it when Trump had an ancient watcher on the board and it said he still both in the deck lol
I don't know if i just get lucky sometimes with my arena drafts or the high tier players are slow to evolve (which doesn't make any sense), but i have liked Prep -> Sprint for a long time. I don't think i've used it in constructed because i don't like rogue that much, but why hasn't this been a thing before?
Maybe the Gadgetzan Auctioneer was just better before, and now it's not. I guess i just find it sad that there was no other rogue than miracle before. Weren't there enough cards to make that possible?
Do you consider sylvannas okay as a replacement for dr. boom which i dont have ?
I'd say sylvanas has its own place in the game being a turn 5.
10:10 How is that a 50/50, exactly?
lol your right it was a 33/33/33
cuz u either hit it or u don't, 50/50
Clark Kent That's not how that works, Rag is an equal chance to hit all enemy targets, including hero.
Sylvester Holmes How is that even relevant? Stupid semantical statistics have no place in hearthstone, and dumb comments like this don't serve any purpose when the question was "How is a 1/3 chance 50/50?"
Justin Smith Just to let you in on something - it's an Amaz thing. He usually talks that way with RNG, such as "It's a 50/50 chance to get Angry Chicken with off your webspinner; either you get Angry Chicken or you don't."
Don't get too wound up by these guys haha
I've played Alexstraza instead of Lord Jaraxxus for a long time and had some good success with pre-GvG handlock.
Wow, I literally JUST played against that rogue deck before watching this video, I was a druid, and stomped that deck, seem pretty weak, or maybe druid is that decks bane, or any extreme late game deck anyway?
@Trump Im playing hearthstone for a while now and i have a few of the most important cards i guess. What do u think are the best decks to go for a high rank ^^? I know its a weird question because u dont know what cards i have exactly and there many decks that are "good" at the moment but i still wanna know what kind of deck u would run with low legendaries ( i have lee roy and Malorne :D)
leroy could be good in a rush deck maybe in miracle rouge
Well for climbing you should probably start with an aggressive deck until you get a little higher up to make the grind a little shorter
And after that I am not so sure
shuvo rahman Thx i apreciate it :)
Jo Viljar Haugstulen Agressive decks like hunter rush or mage face spells like fireball and the 10mana 10 dmg spell (i forgot the name) thx for the answer btw
Dwarfy Lp
Yeah though Mage rush usually don't use pyroblast (they usually aim to kill you before turn 10)
Mage rush those that I have seen have usually used knife jugglers + mana worms + mirror images and sorcerer's apprentices (and just using the images to protect your minions while you just keep hitting face and killing the opponent while you kill them and possibly finish them off with fireballs and frostbolts)
And Zoo also works though it is a bit more board control like it is still very aggressive
I don't have jaruxxas with who should i replace with?
is ther a way to get the card counter on the side ingame?
Trump I was reading the Arena Tier List: Epics and Legendaries artical and you said Mountain Giant but you still have it in your deck and it does play pretty good.
The top 1000 players on each server are called "Legend" rank players. Those players fight against each other to get to *"rank 1 Legend"*.. Trump has managed to do it a few times in the past
LFP Gaming Thanks for the answer. I just edited to ask him a different question.
monstrousgaara the reason the giants are bad in arena is because you don't wanna get to low health or have a ton of cards in your hand. The reason he runs it in this deck is because this deck is made around those cards, which you can't do in arena
which program he uses to see what cards has he draw or not?
Huge missed lethal at 19:32, he had 2 1/1 boom bots and 2 mortal coils and the opponent had 4 health y trump y u do dis
Mortal Coil can't hit face.
trogdorstrngbd He could have hit boom bots with mortal coil tho.
16:59 Dr. Mortal Coil
Trump, please, Handlock is so boring. It's mind-numbingly boring. I've seriously, genuinely just started watching these videos to help myself fall asleep at night. It works, too. I drift right off after the first or second game.
trump, what do you think about hand rogue Kappa, Forsen even won few games with it
So managed to climb four ranks yesterday by going on a nice streak with my own beast druid deck up to rank 5 (havent played mcuh this season). And for some reason it felt like it was struggling today as I didnt gain any stars pretty much maybe one at best. It's weird, because I felt like the deck had a nice balance between dealing with controll and aggro. Yet it felt extremely bad today...super odd.
w0w nice, you should start streaming now, maybe you will get a million views, and your mom will make a call and shake hands with some Jews.
Don't let it get you down, I've been running a deathrattle priest lately, some days it works like a charm and other days I just want to delete it. If you can find out exactly what is going wrong you should tweak it, otherwise give it another go and see if you get your streak back. Good luck!
Getting to Rank 5 isn't as hard this time of month, since a lot of good players are in legend and you can ride to 5 on winstreaks. Getting any higher is a lot more difficult, especially above rank 3, because a lot of folks are still trying to get into legend before the month ends.
Not to say 5 is bad, it's like top 5% of players or something, but keep in mind the deck might need adjustment or replacement to get much further towards legend.
Every deck has weak matchups you probably just got lucky yesterday and then got unlucky today.
I run a fucking Facetard hunter and everything works perfectly ... I don't know what's your problem guys :D
ogre brute replacement for ancient watcher yes no ? any thoughts?
Stonski Magma Rager. Kappa
Jokes aside, I don't see how Ogre Brute is a bad card to replace with Ancient Watcher. You need to wait until turn 4 anyways until you can shadowflame and in the meantime you'd put up either Ogre or Watcher. Ogre has the advantage of bypassing taunts and hitting stealthed minions 50% of the time. It also doesn't require an Owl activator or taunt to actually have it be a threat on the board.
No, watcher costs low enough to combo with shadow flame, and ogre brute just makes the deck slower then it already is
wich GvG Legendary should i craft ?
I just have one question. Why are ancient watchers so good there's 2 of them in the deck? You would think they're useless as they can't attack...
Cheap bodies for taunt, or good silence targets if need be
It has crazy synergy with Owl, Sunfury, Defender of Argus, and Shadowflame - meaning 6 - 8 activator in a typical Handlock deck. One can either get out what is essentially a Yeti on turn 2, a Sunwalker without the Shield on turn 3, or a Flamestrike on turn 4. All of these will wreck aggro decks pretty hard.
Oh. Thats kinda cool. I guess I didnt know as i don't really play handlock...
Tevqoon Lol, makes sense - Handlock is fucking expensive unless you get as lucky as I did with your packs. XD
At 0:57 you discard watcher instead dark bomb on the left side :P
If you play blingtron can you get jaraxsuses weapon?
no
Trump's channel, "Your soul shall be mine!"
does anyone know if shade of naxramas and anima golem have been tested together?
Trump can you free to play more please
ikr? I am really curious to see if he can do f2p to legend rank in a post-gvg game.
Free to play decks to legend is probbably more difficult now with goblins vs gnomes out. It would be interesting to see if he could still do it somewhat fast. TCG will after all become more and more pay to win unless very little new buyable content, that actually affects the meta, is released.
buckwheat219970
I think so if he got real lucky with packs. As you saw in the video, regular Zoo is still really strong and with gvg packs, pretty much any class can make a strong mech-zoo deck.
Zer0Hour17 true. f2p mechanical zoo is awesome.
***** zoo is fucking cancer
Its funny how I think with all the control in the high ranking legends, that mill druid might be a thing when you get into the top tier of players, since it feels like everyone is playing control lol.
What is the replacement for dr. Boom?
Idk man. Dr boom is pretty much the best 7 drop in the game
Why in the first game versus the unlock,the drake of the other guy don't attack ?
to play around molten giant.
Oh tanks Man
And buy the way your have a great chanel 😊
Jason Deruloo thank you, lol. It's where i go to bitch about call of duty typically xD
wow that got to be the most aggro I've ever seen a handlock deck get.
I just played Handlock vs Handlock, my opponent used two BGH on giants. My deck doesn't have a one of BGH in it, and yet I got a solid win.
am I the only one that sees lethal on 31:00? and even over-lethal? owl bomb argus? that's 23 damage..
I can barely play handlock:((( the deck is so awesome built, having the low cost giants, but if i tap like normal handlock, i literally can t live thorugh aggro... Help me, i ve tried antiaggro handlock, didn t work...
Yeah face hunter has the advantage against handlock...not enough taunts you see to handle the rush.
Is there a reason why trump never plays shaman? I think it might be his least played class in the game. I just find it weird since shaman seems like it'd be right up trumps alley.
He plays whatever he thinks will get him more wins, so I guess it just means that he doesn't have that kind of confidence in Shaman.
Why is better 2 hellfires than 2 shadow flames?
Trump's love for Zombie chow is unhealthy. Zombie isnt a good card out of being in priest or undertaker decks.
Its an amazing card.... u get a 1 mana 2-3 that can take out a 2 mana card or even two 1 one mana cards...
Chow is usually best against aggro and all of their 2/1 and such
And Chow is usually not very good in undertaker decks as they are usually rather aggressive and really don't want the enemy to get healed
Chow is anti agro. Chow is for the late game and not rush decks.
a 3 health minion isnt that good when most good 2 drops have 3 attack >.>
xLegendaryPete Yeah, but becomes good due to its mana cost. A 1 mana creature taking out a 2 mana? Thats value bruh
*"handlocks arnt cancer its a very hard deck to play!"*-handlock player
*"Any deck that beats mine is cancer"* -The entire Hearthstone community.
Sylvester Holmes This is so true. This is my first exposure to CCGing, is this how it's like in the other CCGs?
Sylvester Holmes well ya see theres piticuler targets that make a "cancer" deck
A. its cheap to make so dem f2p nubs can playem
B. its aggresive in anyway
"WHAT! that stupid zoolock killed me at turn 7 games are supposed to last 30 minutes till one player dies of fatigue!"
C.is a main stay in the meta
"pff the face hunter is just a mindless netdecker he doesnt see the genius in midrange pirate druid!"
Jude Maxwell Even by your standards handlock fits only one of those criteria, but props for effort.
Kibbitz This is how it is in most competitive video games really. It's easier to accept an enemy being "unfair" than you being bad.
Sylvester Holmes true true but you could argue that handlock is "aggresive" after it is the deck where you can drop turn 8/8s but is it cheap hell no
I don't understand why trump values so much bgh in handlock vs handlock, since handlock doesn't run the 20 dmg combo anymore, it's not like if you leave a giant alive for one turn you're going to die. Also a handlock has 4 giant and maybe even boom to bgh, so I don't think it's that great a bgh in starting hand...
you had leathal at 31:18
I play rushy/mech rogue and Loatheb into Galliwyx is just an autowin. Idk why people dont play it more(i guess coz rogue is kinda dead) but that card is insane. Its like a better Ogre that steals spells. But dont play it against miracle tho, coz you just hand them their entire deck lol.
I tried it very good but still not as good as hand lock in the legend rank
How often do you expect to pull off a combo like that considering they're just two cards out of 30 and you need a decent amount of tempo by turn 5 to actually make it an instawin? My guess: not too often.
simon amorim I was talking about the Rogue class, Handlock can only be Warlock.
Semyon Galtsev It doesnt actually do the damage , either one Loatheb or Galliwyx prevents the opponent from casting spells that wipes ur board, and with Mech discounts+backstabs u have pretty big board till turn 5/6 against nothing. After that you can burst down with coldbloods and Tinkers oil and remove taunts with Sap. I have bursted plenty of control decks from 20+ hp in one turn, even warriors with their infinite armor.
Vin4enco I'm not saying it's impossible. Only that one legendary into another seems like a dream scenario. Rogue is pretty much *the* tempo class that doesn't even need that gimmick to win. Even played separately, Loatheb and Gallywix are strong. :)
Vin4enco of sorry nvm.
Can I ask how I put a legendary on my deck in arena
Have luck ^^
Trump, Loudest typing finger in the west
Someone acknowledge the fact that Trump was singing Teenage Dream.
Awesome.
Random question; why does Trump never puts golden cards in his deck?
He doesn't like having the two (gold and non-gold) together, he only wants to do golden if he can do all golden. The only exception is if he only has a gold card, like his normal Cabal and the Golden one
I'm starting to get really sick of handlock. Don't get me wrong, it's a really cool deck, I would probably play it if I had all those expensive epics. But GvG basically brought no new or interesting things to the deck, and it's still one of the most powerful decks in the game. Because it's everywhere I feel like it limits the amount of decks that are in play.
Well. I do not know for others but i play Handlock because its a fun deck to play. Strong? Depends on how you play.
Actually Peopel now use recombobulator in handlock cause it can Restore Molten and Mountain giants to full health
Xixo zoo? What's that?
trump you forgot the attack of the druid .... 3 xD
Is it just me, or should The Black Knight be good in this meta? I tried it out in a couple of decks and it won me many games. Handlock is popular in constructed, and you see sludge belcher all the time, not to mention the druid stuff e.g. Druid of the claw. It "combos" with recombobulator, so shouldn't it be good in this meta?
What happens if you get to max legend rank
YYou are god :D
lol
Why zombiechow?
Did anyone else notice he missed lethal on the druid when he was at 4 health? He could have attacked face with both bombs and used the 2 mortal coils in hand...
I'm hoping that you're joking...
You can't mortal coil face, and it would not have made a difference hitting the two in the face, since the bombs do 4 damage.
Watching this in hope i will see how to play my Handlock. :D
PS : I KNEW ANTIQUE WILL REPLACE FARSEER
why he keep hunter at first turn?
I really love the handlock deck but I dont have all those cards, I only have 17/30 I need all the legendaries, epic and some rares :(
And the zombie chow.... I hate that expensive naxxarramas
Soul Knight zombie chow isn't needed for handlock. Trump just has an unhealthy upsession with chow and value
and what do you need instead?
Soul Knight 1 more antique heal bot for sure, generally people run another shadowflame but I don't like to
mutantbroom he does run 2 healbots. ur probably looking at a point in the video where he already used one because whenever he plays a card its subtracted from the counter on the left
Why aren't the annotations showing for me?
"Do you think GvG did enough to shake things up?"
Absolutely dude, I´m snowballing to rank 1 with handlock, the meta is upside down.
...he played perfectly...
What does handlock mean?? (Srry, i'm playing hearthstone from 2 weeks and yes im a noob)
*for
+Rens Verburg try thinking " hand warlock " see if that makes sense.
Against the druid the better play was to hit face with the boombot then mortal coil it because then darkbomb and hellfire win, instead of killing the bgh
it's just that i never understand value of zombie chow, 100% times i have seen it on board it has screwed over the user by letting opponent getting healed by 5 and barely getting out of the lethal range and landing game changing cards on board.
I just never understand, how do you get lethal turn 1, around the time you should play zombiechow? If you topdeck zombie chow at later stages of the game, then it's just bad draw, any card can be terrible if you draw it at a bad time, it's not a zombie chow specific problem
Dan Dobney This is exactly why there is absolute zero value with zombie chow, it is the "if" you draw it opening hand which is really unlikely, having better 1 mana cards that are usable even in later game are wayyy better to have in your deck.
So.... Yeah
Im not winning at all with this deck whats going on?
I had opened up a GVG pack and I had gotten a GOLDEN Mal'Ganis I was super hyped
Does anyone know a real deck to counter Handlock?
hunter, freezemage, rogue ...
I think freeze mage does (delays minion damage for several turns and has a lot of burst to finish) but dont quote me on that.
Mill maybe?
mill druid all day long. (check out kripp's mill druid video)
Best one is freeze mage but if you want to climb ladder then hunter
TLDR; yes.
I think trump should do like a stream where the chat picks the cards and class through strawpoll and trump picks the strawpoll cards so we don't get like wip's and Footman
Poor healbot, it wants to hug, but all it can do is attack for 3.
so is handlock dead?
I kind of wanted that paladin to win.
how is his class skill and his class picture is glowing like they were gold??
Cuz dey iz gold lel
Thanks Joshua =) i appreciate the reply
Wow did that Paladin fuck his shit up. I mean, he won. but still...
I AM JARRAXUS, THE FIRST EREDAR LORD WITH NO HANDS.
i use the same anti-aggro handlock c:
Hahaha this thumbnail really looks like kassadin
It is the warlock tier 11 armour (normal mode ilvl) on an Orc warlock
Maybe edit out your loud keyboard in post? Other than that great videos
i missed the singing lol
Does Trump run Zombie Chow to trick opponent that he is playing zoo instead of handlock?
It doesn't really matter if he tricks his opponent like that early on. The opponent has already thrown away their cards at the start, there is very little difference in how you'd handle a ZC depending on the deck.
No, Chow is a good choice for Handlock because of the early game board presence it provides and most people who see Chow played by a Warlock won't even think about Zoo because that's mostly an Aggro deck anyways
chow is not an aggro card in the first place bro :) it's for control decks who dont care if their enemy gets healed in the early game .. its about board control :)
Probably to deal with aggro decks early on
my freeze mage straight up obliterates all warlocks
Couldn't he hit the enemy hero with the two Bombs and the 2 mortal coils to end the game?
Thalan Berger Mortal Coil can only be used on minions.
Milling this deck..... Oh god
disgusting right. worst match up for handlock is the mill rogue I think.
Im rank 5 and i still dont know how to deal with these handlock people lol.