2017 Volvo XC90 Reliability Update: Did I Buy A Lemon?
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- Опубліковано 3 вер 2019
- I've owned my 2017 Volvo XC90 for over 6 months and I've logged nearly 5000 miles on it. Today is my first reliability update on the SUV. Did I make the right call, or did I buy a lemon?
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I have a 2017 S90 T6 with 124k miles. I bought it about 2.5 years ago with 38k miles. I have had a very small "tranfer case" leak, upstream 02 sensor fail, upper ball joint fail, AC compressor fail. Ive gone through numerous rear brake pads a couple sets of front brake pads.
The shudder you mentioned I also struggled with for about year. I had my tires balanced several times, tire replaced under warranty. The shops checked to make sure the rotors were seated properly against the hub. Recently the shudder started to get worse while braking like a "warped" rotor. I decided to replace the front rotors. I took a wire brush on a Dremel and cleaned the mating surface during installation. After completion, all vibrations and shudders were finally gone!
TLDR; clean the mating surfaces of the rotors and hubs extremely well and re torque the wheels. Thank me later. 😉
As a volvo tech, I can tell you straight up, these cars are great when they’re working as designed. We see a few common problems with these cars, including a couple things that set a check engine light, and it sucks, because volvo doesn’t make them recalls, they just let the customer experience the problem and then bring the car in, which is very inconvenient. It’s nothing that’s going to cause the car not to run, but a check engine light never makes anyone happy.
About the rotors: the braking power on these cars is amazing, but it comes with a price. Rear brake pads wear out about every 20k miles and front rotors get warped occasionally. The is most likely the vibration you are feeling under braking.
As far as the vibration while NOT braking, it’s not driveline or suspension related. The suspension and drivetrain are very solid on these cars and I haven’t seen anything like a hub or an axle fail on these yet. Could be the sound damping foam coming off the inside of the tire maybe
i love the design of these new Volvo but hate the potential reliability concerns. im sticking with my 2011 XC70 with real T6 engine and 260,000 miles of no reliability issue ever.
@@Honeypot-x9s I also have a 2011 Volvo XC70 T6 as well, but I have had a few more issues with it than my older 850s. I hate the fact that the compressor clutch is already worn-out on mine at 150K, that the catalytic convertor went bad like clock work when it hit 100K, and the trans valve body needs replacing to cure the hard downshifts from 6th to 5th and from 2nd to 1st when stopping.
meehhhe Of You 3 years of ownership on my V60 Polestar and not a single issue. The SPA platform is going to have some teething pain but for the most part they are rock solid. I will admit that brake pad wear has always been ridiculous on Volvo’s. I replace mine every 30k but I’ve learned to do it myself
@@v60polestar88 maaan.. my XC70 runs lik a champ... speaking of SPA platform, got my hands on a XC90, 2006 with T6 AWD and i would call it mid level options.. its a junker.. but i got it for $100 it runs beautifully.. well i dont know how beautifully yet because the car dealer i got it will finish all legal stuff next week then ill pick it up.. but they gave the couple that came in $100 trade in value for it because they valued it at NV means no value. i rescued it.. i asked a few people if i can drive it around parking lot only and one of the guys said only parking lot cuz its not legal yet for them to let it get on road till next week once all transfered and stuff.. it purrs, it needs alot of work but the drive train is smooth, no hiccups or anything, stops goes, i drove it for 20 laps of dealership because not allow it on the road cuz cant put plates on it till monday after lunch but did that to see if overheating or anything i did a full standing acceleration test between the speed bumps to stress it and other then the interior being messed up being poor treatment squeaking and the body being beat to hell back..nothing wrong with it! no rust or anything! for $100 ...yea im taking it i told the the manager said come in monday and tuesday and bug him hard so he let it slip out the back door to junk yard.
i normally hate beat up cars, not a SUV person, wagon for life here.. but when i saw this poor abused XC90 i had to ask...glad i did cuz $100 :D they only want what they put into it back they dont care at all, no a volvo dealer and they just gunna junk it anyway and it saves them possibility that it cost more to junk it then $100 value so..ya
Hey Jesse... are you in the US or close ?... any Volvo parts you can sell me for a 2004 XC70
My 2016 boots up quicker than yours - even cold. I park under trees, so my biggest issue is leaf debris under the hood , which results in a moldy odor. I also needed new rear brakes around 30K miles, which is suspect is due to the adaptive cruise that is hard on them. Other than that, and some nav system shortcomings, it has performed well.
I have a 2020 XC40, which I love. Boot up is crazy fast (compared to the video above). No issues with parking sensors at speed. Ever since I got it a year ago, I have had the same issue recurrently with the check engine (or maybe battery) light. Mostly it happens with hotter conditions. The worst has been a complete start failure, as well as an in-motion random automatic reduction of transmission (a little turtle graphic pops up), combined with multiple lights and warnings (ESC off, battery light, engine light, tire pressure light). Basically the electronics just go a bit haywire randomly. It does seem to self resolve after multiple restarts, but is still terrifying when it occurs in the middle of traffic. Of course, Volvo service can never replicate it. I’m pretty convinced I have a lemon.
Ever figure out the issue?
Yeah my volvo starts shaking at around 120mph😂
Means not stable?
@@musomimukama3308 It's a joke bc 120mph is around 200kmh
Why are you trying to kill yourself and others? 120mph?
what kind of chip is used to start up the info-system and does the heat issue occur when the car is parked in the shade?
I own an 18 XC90 and I have the same issue with the parking sensors. In traffic the side and front sensors will go off at random. I have 9,100 miles on mine and Volvo has already replaced the front brake pads due to shutter. Lastly I have noticed numerous squeaks and rattles in the cargo area over rough pavement. With that being said, I love the XC90 and hope it will be a reliable car for the long run.
How has it kept up?
Have you got the latest software for the screen? It doesn't seem to have with that time to start up...
I have the same car, 1 problem. A circuit went out, and the lights, turn signal, etc. wouldn’t work. I managed to drive to the dealer and got it fixed. But one flaw - my spouse weighs between 110 and 115, and sometimes the passenger airbag won’t work.
You can't just connect and update the touchscreen firmware or somehow reset it?
What is the per year maintenance cost of this ?
Do you still have your XC90 and if so, or not, what issues did you experience particularly with the 2016? Trying to decide if I want a 2017 since this was the first year model (2016)
Best car I have ever owned. Have 2017 XC90 Inscription fully loaded with air suspension. Any issues were fixed quickly. Have about 50k miles on car. Picked up in Sweden on overseas delivery program. Great experience.
Volvo bought back mine last week under lemon law, 2017 XC90 Inscription, 4 times air suspension repair, was under 24,000K
I only had minor issues under 50k, since then, a few major issues and we baby the car. I regret buying a car with a complex powetrain.
@@srpsbb2000 which model do you have?
Im looking at a 2018 xc60 t8 in which the carfax shows they reset the computer or something a few times then replaced the compressor for the air suspension.
I mean the good thing about the screen is it distracts you into staying parked until oil pressure stabilizes and the idle revs come down....?
70mile an hour vibration is most likely to be wheel balance. try swapping fronts to back and see if it changes, you might feel it through the steering wheel or maybe not, but i doubt a wheel baring is going that soon, my t5 has 135000 miles on it, and the wheel baring has been making a noise for the last 5000 miles and it's still fine, not enough play it in to warrent changing
Nice video! I have a 2016 xc90 with 50000km. In the last few months been noticing a vibration when braking. I just changed the pads and rotors. All inner pads both front and back were worn out. New pads and rotors and the car is running great.
How are you doing now 2 years later?
Very good video. That's a long boot time for the screen, wonder if this is typical?
My only complaint is the title, just be upfront with what you're experiencing (in the title). I'm sure you'll get just as many clicks with "My XC90 Is Very Reliable" vs "Did I Buy A Lemon?". Thanks!
I owned a 2016 XC90 Inscription and am now driving a 2018 XC90 R-Design with Polestar. Both incredible experiences. Swedish design is different--more practical. You will have to get used to clicking a command and allowing all 58 different computer systems to decide the best way to do the command. Yes, that takes getting used to..but when it works, it works great. Swedes, unlike us, apparently are not in a hurry. Results are more important than speed. A great dealer makes a difference too. Thanks for your report.
How has your volvo held up? Any issues?
@@aguiremedia None whatsoever! The key is a good relationship with a good dealer. We have owned Volvos since 2013 and no problems. The biggest issue is the learning curve. It's like going from PC to Mac.
One of the best thought out software processes , boots up much quicker on Uk models 2018 onwards , parking sensors dont miss behave , in fact perfect to date, brakes I feel need uprating such a big car , you feel they are not quite up to the job . There has been a great deal of thought given to this vehicle apart fron Brakes the only change I would make is an audible warning for speed cameras in preference to the visual one .
An update at the dealer will fix your touchscreen to a degree. The new ones have faster processors so they don't have loading problems. Also, unless your vibrations are tire or wheel related, good luck. We have been trying to track down a vibration in my mom's 05 XC90. Replaced a lot of suspension bits, tires, and balanced them twice. As for the parking sensors, just make sure the little circles stay really clean and you shouldn't have problems.
Good shouts all around! The censors are always clean. Just happens regardless. I’m sure they’re wheel related, but we’ll see. Yea hoping a sensus update will help a bit.
I had the same issue. Clean the mating surface of the rotors and hubs very well.
Any update on the XC90 with maintenance? Cost for Oil Change? Issue of shuttering? I'm in the market for an XC90...Let me/us know!
Thanks
While I can't speak for the year model 2017, I own a 2016 XC90 Inscription with a lot of issues. However, the biggest issue was with an internal oil leak. Apparently, this was being caused by bad piston rings.
I thought they were still fixing these for free,no?
Weird, my screen doesn't get hot and starting costs usually 15 seconds. 2 minutes? Maybe once a year .
I have MY16 and screen is never hot when I test. Just because I have put a screen protection film? Have never experienced two minutes long boot-up neither. Go for a total software upgrade.
My 2016 XC90 has a number of the same issues as you. My rear brakes and rotors needed replacement after about 30,000 miles, which of course was not covered under warranty. I also had some sort of sunroof drain leak, which was the subject of a recall. Although it was fixed, my wife kept complaining about the musty smell; and even after a lot of detailing on my part, it did not go away. I was able to get them to finally replace the driver's side carpet, which seemed to fix the problem. As far as the electronics, they are quirky. The HVAC is temperamental, as is the GPS. The sensors do require cleaning to work properly, but I suspect that is a common technology maintenance issue. I like driving the car; but, as usual, the more things become complicated, the more problems.
Crabby Hayes make sure you disable the auto hold function. That wears the brakes down even faster
@@reesedog918 is that the “a” switch next to the parking break or is that in the infotainment system somewhere
@@aguiremedia yes
@@reesedog918 thanks
Shutter upon braking is usually warped rotors.
Deale replaced mine twice under warranty until now, was told Volvo not consider as warranty issue anymore. Replaced front and rear with brembo pads and rotor.
My parking sensors go crazy at stop lights too. Wish they had a fix but they said not currently (2016 xc90 t6 r)
I like your SUV cause it looks good and most importantly it’s a VOLVO. Congratulations for your baby. Pete 🇬🇧
I have a 2021 volvo xc90 and i cant understand why it doesnt have basic functions like CTA, BLIS, headrestfold in the control center which is weird. It doesnt even have steering heat which bumps me. I mean its the latest D5 model why cant i see the standard features in it? Nd rarely but sometimes it makes noises while braking the car doesnt even have 10k miles yet
I own a 2017 Powerpulse Pro .. and it run 23000 miles .. and no problems of any kind...
Where is the depreciation gauge located? Love my Highlander
got a 2019 xc90 t8 rcharge..cuts out at inopportune times..wondering if its a fuel pump issue..out of warranty..of course
I noticed you didn't use the hands free foot motion to open the trunk? My Volvo dosen't work ever! 12kmiles fuel filler neck needed to be replaced. 23k T6 Transmission shot! 😞 I don't think I will buy another one! And yes the infotainment is slow compared to other vehicles
My 2019 v60 starts up the display right away
Better processor
I love the story of my Volvo it’s just so nice that you’re so nice so when I grow up I forget a robot you
I can assure you our 2019 MY has a quick start up and response from the center console. Infact it is 99.9% ready to go when I sit in the seat. I can confirm that the parking sensors also seem to go off when driving. I've noticed this when driving next to the street cleaners here in Germany and next to Citrone cars that also have sensors. I suspect it's interference of some sort or similar signals. The street cleaners are more interesting...I suspect the rotating brushes are confusing the radar.
Bought 2017 Inscription, Volvo bought it last week under lemon law - 4 times suspension issue
Turbo went as soon as guarantee expired , no joy from dealers in South Africa
What's Lemon law?
@@mickymouse6447 It's a law for Lemons and Oranges.
Hahaha...40k? Don't waiste my time...get me report at 180k
Do you think it'll last for 180k??
@@pablonaracena why not?
A 2.0 4 with a turbo charger and supercharger glued on at 180,000 miles? No.
@@UnderMyPalm，you just guessing.
Chicco, now recommended from toddler to adolescents, lol.
For the shudder, check the lug nuts torque settings. My bet is that there are some that are over torqued.
To be fair the screen will probably load faster with the dealer software updates you get at *regular* service intervals (10k) if you're going in for the 1st at 40k you've missed 4 updates! I know it's expensive to go to the dealer for just oil changes/CAF/EAF but the software updates can be crucial 😬
I bought the car with 34,200 on it. It’s likely had those updates.
@@ShiftingLanes ah well I certainly won't excuse Volvo's first gen hardware , it definitely can take a while to boot up! Luckily the new ones have faster processors and seem to have mostly worked out the lag
Not a wheel bearing. either tires, bent rim (unlikely) or rotors (most likely). Milk the rotors till CPO is done. they burn though rotors..
I own an S-80, but have no pink shirts.
I'm okay with that.
Love the design but those wheels look like tiny for such a large vehicle
It is on offroad mode that is why the vehicle is rised up and tyres look small.
No. I don’t have active suspension.
@@ShiftingLanes .
It's because it's the 18" wheels from the Momentum package. I agree that 20" looks much better.
My Volvo has it has a very safety feature
2019 and newer has a much much much much much faster boot up. My 2020 V60 is fully booted in a few seconds.
but is 2019.......
Jakub Tonykoko yeah I know.... super strange the automotive business.
Yes I know. It sounds stupid. And I think is bad for auto business. Dealers have to go down with price with 2019 models. Is it reason ? Isn't....
Yep, my 2019 XC90 T8 boots in maybe eight seconds from cold and about half that otherwise.
It was manufactured with a faster cpu in 2019.
Huge erad problems in t8 models costs thousands to repair and is very very common. Volvo knows the issues but refuses to do this under the 8 year warrenty
My cousin has 3 kids under the age of 5 and they fit across the second row comfortably
Good review but please state your height for reference when showing the seating position and rear seat space.
Bought our xc90 t8 new. Now has 55k miles. Only issues have been leaking sunroof. We also change the oil every 10k miles
It's a 2018
Leaking sunroof on a 70,000 luxury suv is totally unacceptable. What the fuck is wrong with Volvo I’ve blown out both of my front 2 speakers passenger and driver door, seatbelt plastic assembly keeps falling and popping off, touchscreen sometimes randomly crashes and turns off, and the front parking sensors keep getting pushed into the bumper (they are mounted way too low on the bumper IMO) assembly anytime I park too close in the garage or touch something with the bumper, even snow will push it in. “2018 model
I would bet that my 2011 and 2013 XC90’s are more solidly built than the new platform. They run extremely well if you have them serviced on time.
That screen is terrible- Volvo should have a recall for that.
Maybe warped rotors
First generation xc90 2.4 d5 was bulletproof.
I have a 2015 S60 cross country D4 with 135k on it and guys its a great car 💪🏼
People talking about reliability are like vultures.
When you drive enough to have to change your oil every month and a half. Then let's talk about what's reliable
Software update for the slow screen
RC Killz gotta love those tj’s
Is it possible you need brake pads at 40k miles???
OMG
Depends on driving conditions, its possible
Tough choice between volvo xc90 or lexus rx 🤔🤔🤔
My xc90 has been a nightmare post warranty, expensive stuff, fuel injectors around 60k miles, supercharger fail at 87k miles, and a variety of other very costly issues.
I’m scared for ours it has almost 70k and hasn’t had any issues yet.
@@ayaanalam7384 it's the main daily driver right now, I'm thinking I should dump it but having spent 6k on it in the last 7 months, 9k over last 13 months. Kinda fell, I should keep it as the second car and get a new daily. Been very disappointed with the reliability.
What model do you have? Hows it holding up now?
@aguiremedia
it's a 2017 xc90 T6 inscription with the polestar option. Well, since I posted that, we haven't had any issues. We currently have 104k miles and my wife's commute was cut in half with her new gig. Just paid it off, so the plan is to keep it, fingers crossed. We have a rivian on reserve for a mid 2024 delivery, hoping it makes it till then.
@@srpsbb2000 sounds like volvo isn’t giving you much confidence after warranty. Im wanting to purchase a 2018 xc60 t8 with 97kmiles for 26k but seems like it just might be trouble. OR. everything major that will go wrong already has and it may just be regular stuff from here on out🤷♂️
The shutter at 70mph is the foam in the tire coming off of they're the continentals.
Yeah good call, I would second that. I hate that stuff.
Yeah I was thinking wheel balance issue. I had one not too long ago and it was from a freakin' nail that was suck in a tire.
Pirelli makes the same sound damping tire as well😔
I own a 2018 XC60 and in 2 years my wife has put 16000 km (10000 miles) on it. I just replaced the front brakes and rotors. Called Volvo and essentially they said tough luck. That really sucks. Great car otherwise but .....is is a lemon? time will tell.
Turbo went under guarantee, and Volvo dealers laughed it off.
Say it with me "SPAhhhhhh"
Anyone still driving there's?
I have a 2022 XC90 T6 and cannot wait to get rid of it. Worst Infotainment system, which is painful to use and has constant issues - WiFi drops all the time, second row has baby bottle 🍼 size cup holders, dealer already had to replace the master computer module, which caused a multitude of problems. Fuses blow all too much for a new car. Horrible gas mileage and idles at 900 rpm after being warmed up.
Sounds like a headache to me. I’ll keep my lil ole truck… with no issues
I used to love Volvo but after se how much trouble my sister in law has with her Volvo xc 90 2018 and mileage is 20000 my gosh 5 times was fixing same issue stupid air suspension now she field lemon law and never never never again buy that piece of junk
I had an old 760 gle back in the day. It was bullet proof. My next Volvo a 960 gle was piece of garbage. Brake failure, engine mounts cracking, leaking roof seals . When I finally got rid of it I called it the smoker because from a stop you could smoke some meat back there
Possible needs new brake discs
9:12 LOL @ Guest Profile. Sheesh.
I mean I have it set up the way I want and I’m the only one that drives it, soooo 🤷🏻♂️
@@ShiftingLanes Ditto - but L and I have ours each tied to our keys, and we (by we, I mean, *I*) changed the names on the profiles to Jon and Lise! (and Guest). =)
I also had to put my seat settings on Profile 1 on the door panel, because if she walks up to the car with her key before me, it moves the seat to her position, which smashes my head into the roof! :) :)
2016-2017 was major problem years for the xc90. Get 2019+
Are u kidding Volvos and reliability? How much did they pay u?
Wife’s 2017 xc90 is horrible. Ac unit is always acting weird with the screen. Horrible shaking after 30k miles had to replace the rotors and pads. Check engine light throwing o2/emissions problem with a sensory. Will never buy a Volvo again. :(
I have my 2020 xc40 t5 r-design 20inches fully loaded 😁😃
As soon as I heard model year 2017, I said to myself, of course it’s gonna give problems
it is not true.I have 2017 and i have never some problems with my car
Volvo bought back mine last week under lemon law, 2017 XC90 Inscription, 4 times air suspension repair, was under 24,000K
That IHU needs software.
Also debris in the parking sensors. Try blowing out with air and wiping them off
I love my Honda :) :) :) :)
charger scatpack is the answer
1 1/2 minutes in, I couldn't take any more.
Oh no!
Anyway…
Shouldn't have warped rotors.. if so that's poor design there...
I liked Volvo but I will never ever again own a xc90! Best of luck with yours.
Why?
...my aching wallet!
OMG please use the HVAC system properly...
I was...?🤷🏻♂️
I think he meant that the AC should've been off when you started the car.
I always turn the AC/Heater off before turning the car off.
ShiftingLanes Okokok, not “wrong” I see you don’t like the heat and you want the blaster on... Not necessary to turn things off between runs either, but a temperature should be set to allow blending and keep the blower at a reasonable speed. Never changed it out in these cars but as a “car keeper”, I’ve replaced all those things. It can extend the life of both the blower and the blend doors under that dash. The car will do whatever it can to hit that temp... let it!
@@jameslarson7452 I have to tell my wife the same thing over and over - but she insists that "Lo" is faster... it's not. She also refuses to use anything more than the second fan speed, she'd rather everyone sweat than for her to have to hear the noise fans make (in any car).
9:56 all the more reason the lack of BUTTONS and seperate climate control makes it a dealbreaker
Sour.
Why do you ramble? To make a long story short. Get to the point!
That’s not how UA-cam or making videos works.
You you mean the longer the video the more money make?
@@remyhorsdage8045 No. That's also not how it works. It's called crafting a story. YT is like TV now. Think about it that way.
ShiftingLanes I don’t know what technique you’re talking about, but your introduction is way to slow. And I don’t want to hear about your kids and the shirt you are wearing, or having to go back to work. I felt like you were playing with my time so you could reap more points on UA-cam for engaging the viewers.
I rate the XC90 at the bottom of the list of Luxury SUV's.. Noisey cabin with too much road and wind noise, cumbersome infotainment system and although the interiors are high quality, the XC90 cabin and overall driving experience does not exude a feeling of plushness, comfort and luxury that expected of a luxury vehicle.
First here :)
Used to work on them, and had to replaced brake pads at 20,000 miles before, and rotors basically 2 weeks after the customer got it because of the vibration. And the 4cyl engines are junk. All new ones are lemons
All new ones are not lemons.
Our v90 har 100 000 miles and the engine has been perfectly reliable
please explain what is junk on the 4cyl engines
It's the same engine as the 5 cylinders and 6 cylinders. Volvo had a modular design they basically just cut motor to just 4 cylinders 2.0 liters. One thing I don't like is the higher compression ratio. I assume they did that for the low end tq since they use just 4 cylinders now. For performance that's nice but I think what always made Volvo turbo motors better than any other company was their lower compression ratio. I still would put the Volvo 4 cylinder as the most reliable European car engine.
What a waste of time
Insanely annoying !
Get a Kia Telluride or Hyundai Palisade
Yes, for reliability sake, a Kia telluride and or Hyundai palisade is much better.
Buying a new 4cyl Volvo is like throwing your money into a burning fire pit. I can't think of ANY Volvo technician with a good thing to say about the new Volvo engines. Figured you'd have known this being as savvy as you are...
I know at least 15 techs personally though all this and only 2 have spoken ill of the engine. This is just flat out wrong. Engine is stout, many components surrounding it have been dodgy. This car has been rock solid. Not sure all the puffery online from purists really adds up here.
@@ShiftingLanes Hope you don't have to deal with oil consumption. CHEERS.
@@gdkhtc that was the 2015-16 models
THE VOLVO IS NICE, MAYBE OVER MERCEDES, BUT NOT OVER BMW.
Volvo sucks now. Why did u buy volvo. Who buys volvo now days u should hve bought a mercedes or bmw
suhail ahmed lol those cars are full of dumb gimmicks and fake badging they are just as disposable as any other new car hot fresh garbage
Yeah, that's funny.
@@therightnuke i wish u best of luck
New Volvo’s suck if you want a long term vehicle. That being said, so do Mercedes and BMW. They are all 150,000 mile cars now a days.
Also the new engines suck, not just because they are all busy little 4 cylinder engines but because their is no point to them, they drink fuel faster than equivalent full size engines they used to use. Example: I own a XC70 T6 Premier which has a 3.2 liter turbo charged inline 6 engine, AWD, 16 gallon tank and if I use cruise control on highway 70MPH I get about 500 miles of fuel range. I rented a new V60 T6 with similar package name and feature set, as well as same 16 gallon tank and on same route at same 70MPH cruise control and got almost 100 miles less range. In my XC70 the RPM sits at 1600 RPM 70MPH cruise. On that V60 it was fluctuating between 2200 rpm and 2600 rpm at same speed in cruise.
Have you looked at volvos sales graph compared to the other makes,they are way ahead with record sales for the last five years ! 13% up again from 2018 whilst BMW are about 2% up and other mass market makes down..
Just damn waste of time the video, empty talk, bullsh t , wht juat dont talk about the problems, looks like volvo commercial that explains how good car is.... Trash!