Why Speedrunners HATE Pokemon Alpha Sapphire
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Sheer cold increases in accuracy based on the level gap. For every level they have above yours it gains 1%. So sheer cold had a 34% rather than a 30%. Which does a lot more than most people expect, just like how 95% accurate moves miss so often.
This explains sooo fucking much, I remember Kyogre hitting sheer cold sooo fucking often despite it supposed to be 30 accuracy against my team
Ahhh I totally forgot about the level difference mechanic.
@@dreadknight2439
OHKO moves also fail outright of the user is lower level than the target (level 99
Walrein using Sheer Cold will fail against a lv. 100 Sunkern)
@@nerddwarf Indeed thats why they just needed 55 lvl Kyogre.
If it’s not 100% Accurate, it's 50% Accurate
I wasn’t fortunate enough to play these games when they came out only played the Original ones and honestly seeing how this game was made, man do I wish diamond and pearl had the same treatment cause holy crap it looks so beautiful.
But everyone bitching about it at launch says otherwise
@@notscorchingsands9718That’s what I never understood tbh, game was amazing yet people still found meaningless things to complain… lol
@@martinthomas2520 Nah don't twist the history there, Alpha Sapphire and Omega Ruby had a much better first review wave than the DP Remakes had.
It was greatly made, but I still don't get why they cut out the Emerald extra stuff.
@@notscorchingsands9718 they always do that, it happened to the black and white games too. Turned out to be the best games of the franchise.
@@notscorchingsands9718 I don’t remember that at all except the too much water memes
Latias is my favourite legendary, she deserved better 😭😭
...why?
Same
Casually waiting till people start fighting because someone "misgendered" a Pokémon (Saw this happen like 3 times with Zacian).
@@helion_ut There seem to be no errors. Latias can only be female, the male counterpart is Latios (think like Nidoking and Nidoqueen).
Same here because she was the first legend I ever got
Fun facts with Jake! This actually mirrors the competitive scene near perfectly, as in gen 3 kyogre was the most dominant mon in ubers, while, when oras dropped, groudon surpassed it by a long shot
that fire typing and water immunity was huge for it.
@@gregorymirabella1423 yup. The water inmunity, especially, turned their matchup from one where they both had to be very cautious to an absolute groudon victory
@@gregorymirabella1423there is also more moves and pokemon that can abuse sun in ORAS
@@ThatOneWeirdFlex i think you've forgotten how their primal forms' weather abilities worked. Nobody was using regular groudon in ORAS ubers so they could set up sun.
@@selearth3123 You sure that wasn't reffering to VGC ? AKA the doubles format ?
8:13 That’s actually 34%. OHKO moves gain 1% for each level above the target the user is.
But if the oh ko user is lower level, it's 0% accuracy
Half of the comments are saying this😭
@@Official_ViperYT Which is such a weird way u think it would work the same way both ways where every lv lower it would just reduce it by 1. Seems weird 😂.
@@Official_ViperYT Legendaries would be unaffected if higher level but not normal pokemon if it hasn't changed and theres no way you should have such a weak legend at the league too easy to level on the cave.
@@princeking1562there's no time to fucking grind in a speedrun. cope
I guess you could say that alpha saphire is hard mode. That and maybe more people should be using the grass type starter in the game where the villains primarily use water types.
Flannery and Wattson.
I can walk on water I can fly
There are a bunch of catchable grass and water types though. Very few fire types to catch.
@@PredictableEnigma yeah, but this is a speedrun. they don't have time to catch & train like a lotad, and grass is a really bad type in general.
@Crumpetsancheese your logic and username is terrible..get swept by a dommy mommy tsareena
Why do speedrunners use the red orb in OR, while avoiding the use of the blue orb in AS against Glacia? Is it because Kyogre can theoretically win faster without it, but Groudon has to transform to win? That would be an awkward case of one game having a strat that is technically faster than the other, but more annoying to perform because it is inconsistent.
Pretty much. Groudon needs the stat boost from its Primal, otherwise it's insanely nature and stat dependant.
@@PulseEffects It's just stupid if you're on a WR pace, you don't have to throw it out of the window on RNG if you have a bit slower but safe way to the fight.
@@groudonvert7286 I'd assume that if you don't risk the rng, you lose the WR pace, given how saving even seconds is pretty important on speedruns
@@tuby0299 In speedruns like Pokémon where every fight is RNG, I don't believe you have that much time to lose on a fight like that.
@@groudonvert7286 well in a speedrun, even a few seconds can be what defines a WR run. And while it is true that Pokémon speedruns are filled with rng, you're always going to play against those odds for an optimal play. After all, if it wasn't an important thing to begin with, I doubt anyone would be risking the run, yet that's not the case
I feel like it's worth noting that the Walrein can also go for Surf or Body Slam and we usually only have to risk 2 turns on the Walrein, which makes it much more reasonable to go for the no Blue Orb strat since you are fairly likely to survive
Yeah but if your not that's a big time waster, and your legendary is dead. And usually a speedrunner doesn't try grinding levels that much in a run because it takes time out of the run.
@@Official_ViperYT I was trying to make a point for why people go for a relatively risky strat that late into the game because I saw some people in the comment section who said that it would not be worth it. I don't exactly know what you are trying to tell me but yes, sometimes we have to take risks in Pokémon Speedruns so that we can go fast
😊q
I had no idea how hard alpha sapphire gets dunked on lmao
idk man, this seems like the problems are all specific to speedrunners who dont know that water is weak to grass
though its problably not worth catching a water mon just for surf
@@HabitualThinker if u pick treecko, you have nothing for magneton and flannery, i imagine mudkip is still faster due to that roadblock
@@HabitualThinker Do a Treecko run and let us know how it goes against Brawly, Rival, Wattson, Flannery, and Norman (hint: it's worse against all of them). Let us know when you beat all the speedrunners who don't know that water is weak to grass.
@@DJFracus It’s easy to get through those trainers. Seems like they just have a skill issue
@@egbertmilton4003 ah yes
speedrunners has skill issue
So since Omega Ruby is the preferred game for ORAS speedruns does that mean that Omega Ruby is avenging Ruby or something
Probably, after all Kyogre would win agienst Groudon cuz of typing. so I guess it's just avenging the legendary.
@@Official_ViperYT Yes but Primal Groudon can beat Primal Kyogre and is better overall so they did just flip the matchup of Gen 3 in Gen 6.
@@UltraAryan10 yeah, I remember I think they gave Groudon solar beam to handle weaknesses. and with the desolate land it is a 1 turn op move.
@@Official_ViperYT also desolate land fully negates all water attacks so Kyogre is fully useless against primal Groudon
"preferred", because the games actually have separate leaderboards due to being different enough from one another.
34/66% chance, not 3'/70%. Sheer cold gains 1% accuracy for each level above the opponent, making the situation slightly worse.
Kyorgrie. My pain
Nah the re in Kyogre is pronounced backwards.
Kyorgy
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 yes, kyorgy
Kyo grr
Kroger
The Latios in the red game and Latias in the blue game is also in the originals but you get them latter and is harder to catch them, only in Emerald they let you choose which you want.
Also I think is better that you can't skip some parts of the game.
I am here solely because of that thumbnail it is adorable pat whoever made it on the back they deserve it
1:35 In my Pokémon Y playthrough, that was the Black Belt in Reflection Cave who had nothing but a Sawk. Dude wiped 4 of my pokemon before I could get a single hit off.
Lmao for me it was the autumn bridge battle my team got swept and i was OVERLEVELEd
6:54 May and Brendan are 12 years old in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire. The ten year old rule is exclusive to the anime and every single playable character we known the age of is older than 10.
I always figured Red and Blue were 10, though I do see why people think the other player characters are older, the Gen 5 protagonists literally look like teenagers yet their age is probably never states and as an anime fan you'd presume the "10 years old" rule as canon, though obvs it isn't since many of the PC (player characters) are obviously older than 10
@@theleonpasta7336 game protags from gen 1-4 and 7 are all 11, stated originally I think in game manuals and then in gen 7 directly
gen 5 trainers are 14 for BW and 12 for BW2, and then gen 6 is at least 17
idk about 8 lol
@@meltysap1679 At the time of their journey:
Red, Blue, Elio, and Selene are 11 years old. Brendan and May are 12 while Hilbert and Hilda are 14.
Calem and Serena are older than Emma who is 16 while Akari and Rei are stated to be around 15. It may be safe to assume that Leaf is the same age as Red and Blue. Ethan, Kris, Lucas, Dawn and Lyra’s age are unknown but cannot be older than 14 as Hilbert and Hilda are said to be older than them. The age of Chase and Elaine is unknown but it can be assumed that they are younger than Red, Blue, and Green making them the only playable characters I’ll accept being called 10 years old.
Nate, Rosa, Victor, Gloria, Florian and Juliana have completely unknown ages.
@@augustorojas9371 Florian & Juliana both look about the same as Chase & Elaine.
That don't mean diddily squat with the anime artstyle and you know it@GKplus8
Groudon is actually much better for the 8th gym as it sets up Desolate Land which nullifies Water moves, which the AI doesn’t get and will still spam Water moves seeing the 4x weakness oblivious to the fact it’s doing 0 damage, this also saves time on the animations
You can turn animations off...
@@kumoko3728 honestly I'd advise doing it in normal gameplay too because man it takes up so much time.
Justice for Latias!!! 😭😤
like you said, LotiASS
Justice!
Justice for her!
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Loti Asss ? Bro what
Poor lati-ass. It's so cute but not strong enough for speedruns :(
Latias is great. L
The accuracy of OHKO moves increase if the user is higher level than the target (1% per level), and fail if the user is lower level than the target.
Level 54 Walrein has a 34% to hit Sheer Cold against a level 50 Kyorge
It's only a 66% chance to not get hit by Sheer Cold, not 70%
Alpha sapphire was one of the first games I ever beat and I will never forget how important some of those pokemon are to me. I cried when I got to the credits and it showed me fighting with my pokemon with their greatest hits.
one of the first games you ever beat? how old are u like 5? game came out like 6 years ago bro
@@livebyfaith4647 2014 was 9 years ago.
@@livebyfaith4647 9. The guy could be like 14
@@livebyfaith4647 assuming he was like 9 when he beat it he could even be 18 lmao
@@livebyfaith4647 How would they currently be 5?? It came out 9 years ago, I was 11-ish when it came out; my first pokemon game was X&Y however, first game I'd ever beaten I think? I'm not really that good at video games but I'm pretty decent at pokemon
I came here for the content of this video. I didn't expect you to use "vulnerability" for the bg music in the end part. I'm commenting here to give you a h5 for the usage of the ost.
"HM Friend" hit me like a truck
Calling Kyogre Kee-oh-gree is one of the biggest Ls the anime ever took. The only thing worse than that that I can think of is calling Rattata Rattatat.
How Kyogre should be prounonce ? Kai-oh-geer ?
@@marshupp Close. It's Kai, like Dragonball Kai, and then ogre, like Shrek.
I tend to say Key Oh Gray
@@jouheikisaragi6075 I catch you saying that, I’ll show you what a KO grey looks like.
@@David_the_Psalmist not my fault that's how it's said in both my native language. Same with Rayquaza being Ry(like Ride) Kwa Za and Arceus being Ar seh oos. Spanish is a funny language like that.
6:04 Kyogrey? Seriously?
I guess the time loss in grabbing the Thunder TM or saving a few rare candies so Sheer Cold *won’t work* just isn’t worth it for a consistent Glacia.
Better to wrestle with RNG forever.
You are correct in your assumption! Speedruns are all about giving and taking things in as little time as possible, and these solutions don't give back enough timesave.
I got stuck when he said "Kyogree"
I had to pause the video for a solid 30 seconds
Please never say Kyogre again
I almost think it would be more beneficial to use Torchic in Alpha Sapphire than it is to use Mudkip.
no, it wouldn't. Otherwise speedrunners would use it.
Torchic can't beat Roxanne
That's mostly it.
Torchic absolutely cannot beat Roxanne without unreasonable luck.
Combusken can, but you don't have a Combusken, you have a Torchic, and if you grind for Combusken, you are now irrecoverably behind pace
Shouldn’t treecko be better?
Kai-Oh-Gree 😭
Latass my beloved
1 thing you didn’t mention is that groundon gets access to solar beam, that is a 1 turn move if the sun is up so the water gym goes down instantly to it
Solar Beam is not used for the speedrun! Its Ground/Fire moves obliterate everything in its path.
I assume that wasn't mentioned because it's usually not worth it lol.
The boosted fire moves from sunlight and the ground moves scaling off its insane physical attack are nutty.
i wonder if you can get 5 rare candies for kyogre before glacia to prevent the ohko
you can grind in Victory Road and just don't waste those rare candies on any pokemon in Alpha Sapphire speedruns (where kyogre is allowed)
@@kstanni87 does grinding not add to the speedrun time?
takes too much time. you can potentially get WR if you just gamble on not getting OKHO'd, so everyone just hopes for the best.
@no
@@gregorymirabella1423
This
Because you CAN beat Glacia reasonably without Rare Candies, that means you HAVE to if you wanna go for WR.
Kinda like the no Blue Orb strat itself.
Groudon basically has to use it without unreasonable luck, so using it hasn't been worked out of the WR yet, but because Kyogre reasonably can, you have to.
6:25 in to the video and I could swear my spotify is playing quietly in the background, nope that's just the backing track of the video. Home - Resonance if anyone is interested :D
This game made my childhood
Thankful for the moments I had with my cousins
Playing 3DS and having fun as kids
Goddamn, that made me feel old. It was the same way for me with the 2nd and 3rd gen games
4:52 Tbf it was always like that even in the OG games. You always got the Eon legendary who was the opposite color of your game. Its just in the OG games you didn't get them midgame so they weren't relevant to a speedrun unless going for a 100% run.
Ah yes, my favorite pokemon: Kyogree
That thumbnail, man.
Hilarious.
May's like, "Dammit Archie! Why won't your goons stop following me?!
Love the Latias named 'Latios' at 5:14 there. The cope is real.
My favorite boy Machop, finally getting some time in the spotlight!
An "HM friend". Taking the safe route huh
HM?
I'm starting to wonder if it would be faster to use Treecko instead. You get Rock Tomb right after the first gym to deal with all of Grass' weaknesses except for poison, and it adds more type variety compared to using both Mudkip and Kyogre, plus Latias can learn Surf, Dive, and Waterfall.
Treecko is just not good in these games, worst starter choice as it doesn't do well with most of the gyms and anything after..it also ironically doesn't do well against team aqua as most of team aquas pokemon aren't water types and super effective against grass types..they mostly use dark, flying, and poison types (if it was a viable option the speedrunners would of tried it)
@@testerwulf3357 it's honestly very underrated, but even then, it is unfortunately not fast enough to compete for the speedrun. Also, mudkip has the added benefit of learning all required HMs, meaning you don't have to catch anything else (except for the box legendary) in the run.
You lose to Wattson, lose to Flannery, and need to catch a Surf pokemon.
You can grind or catch pokemon to help this, but than means you are now behind pace and will never recover.
The only other way to save time would be if Treecko was better than Latias and/or Kyogre through midgame and lategame.
It is not.
It gets pushed in by Winona, has no tools to deal with Golbat or Weezing well, dies even harder to Glacia, flounders against Drake, and dies screaming to Steven. It is also constantly making contact with Sharpedo which, while I can't say for sure, probably means there are items you need to use between certain fights, and possibly some pokemon Sceptile just doesn't have the HP left to survive a hit from.
At least the aqua admin bad asf
ive always thought pokemon speedrunning was kinda insane cause when you push things that far the game seems to be pure luck (which is fun in its own way but very different from other speed runs)
Exactly why I love Pokemon Speedruns!
as a kid i after beating the game like 2-3 times i always speedrunned the games for the legendaries to trade them
Just curious, if the early stages of AS are so difficult due to water types like Carvana/Sharpedo then why not use Treecko as the starter instead? Grass would still do well against the first Gym and the aqua grunts, and it learning Absorb/Mega Drain would still give it STAB that's neutral to fighting types while letting it recover a bit to compensate for lower defense.
Not worth using Grovyle! It gets walled harder by worse threats than Carvanha. (Rivals/Gyms)
@@PulseEffects Didn't expect a reply haha. I was just wondering if it would have at least done up until you reached Latias and then could be boxed for the rest of the game since you couldn't do that in the original Ruby and Sapphire so early.
@@caldw615 Then you'd also have to waste time capturing Pokemon to use the required HMs with. This is why Mudkip is so much better- it also learns every required HM so you don't have to spend time on captures.
@@Hyperneosonic97 Ah that's true, I forgot there's like 3 HM's just for traversing water in this game alone.
@@caldw615 Even were it not for that, though, Grovyle would face huge problems once you reached Flannery, since Grovyle isn't anywhere near strong enough to deal with her Torkoal (heck, even taking out her Slugma is a tough one), without excessive grinding and Flannery is before you get access to Latias.
Wouldnt a quick trip to the Lillycove department store to get the Thunder TM help with the Walrein? I get that its a speedrun, so time is of the essence, but i think you could make up for the time lost by not needing to set up on the fight
Rival fight blocks it
I screamed so loud at Lati-Ass 😂😂😂
ALPHA SAPPHIRE MY BELOVED
latas
You did not nickname your latias “Latios” that is next level lmao
I remember doing a for-fun Latias only run of AS. It was fun and doable, but it was sort of frustrating how all the league match-ups are very unfavorable. Dark type, Ghost type, Ice Type, and Dragon type are all super effective against my red plane wife. Obviously not a speed run :D.
Sheer Cold, 30% of the time, it hits every time!
I find it funny how he stresses whenever he says Lati-ASS
what is he supposed to say, lay tay az?😭
Keep Crying Alpha nerds.
Post was made by omega lads
Groudon is better than Kyogre
I'm an omega lad and I approve of this message, I even bought OR twice and never bought AS
@@Official_ViperYT Based actions for a based lad
i can smell the b*sic f*t sponsored instagrammer smell out of this comment
Lati-O-s is for Omega Ruby because of the O
Lati-A-s is for Alpha Sapphire because of the A
Makes sense to me.
Yo blaziken looks amazing for a alpha sapphire speed run. Too sad that you need to catch a water type because Latias encounters right after the first surf area.
Yeah I’m curious how much time you’d have to lose to catching a Lotad. Though the first gym being rock probably hurts the Torchic pick as well.
They DARE talk shit about my Latias??? That's it. I'm gonna speedrun their lives
I'd recommend doing it on the faster version though, which is omega ruby.
@@IschmarVInah. pick Alpha Sapphire to piss'em off
Latias is my baby and you will respect her
recpecting someone and acknowledging that someone sucks in a speedrun are not mutually exclusive.
Well .. "sucks". Latias is still far better than anything else available at this point ...
@@IschmarVIcalled her LatiASS
i just realized that Resonance is the track used for this video, what a neat touch
I love this pokemon game so much its my childhood i spent hundreds of hours playing it and i caught my first shiny. Sadly i lost the cartridge. Rest in peace my lvl 100 shiny magicarp named god you will always have a special place in my heart
... your 3ds should still have the data...?
@@ellachino4799the save file is on the cartridge. it has always been like that on every Nintendo handheld, ever. (before the switch)
4:44 Yeah, well, guess what? The Black Pokémon is in the White game, and the White Pokémon is in the Black game.
And nobody complained about that.
Kind of ironic because it's my favourite pokemon game casually
Why did you pronounce kyogre as kyogree
I used lastias in sword and shield for a while and lemme tell ya, this thing has milotic defense, but it's on steroids. It's defense is what it makes it so good, along with that good speed. Like latios, they have access to thunderbolt, calm mind and ice beam! I'm not sure if they're available in Oras but I guarantee it gets it now. It's a good pokemon but I don't like the fact I have to calm mind before doing real damage
Latias was always supposed to be the defense version but unfortunately the overall idea of the Pokemon is way better for offensive purposes so Latias always seems to be better even for Calm Mind sets.
Nah, I had to stop watching when you said, Kyogree. Also, Latios was in Ruby, and Latias in Sapphire, so it makes complete sense to have that stay the same in the remakes
Tbh I'm still surprised after all this time, gamefreak hasn't added a "skip cutscene" button to their games.
It's easy to code, isn't intrusive (eg. it can be put in the top right/bottom right corner with simply (skip cutscene?) (Skip scene?) or simply (skip?) and would help not just speedrunners but people who already played the game and don't want to sit around to watch something they already saw.
If it's to prevent kids skipping important world-building or where to go/what to do in the story, you can just add an objective to the game menu (if they haven't done so already) or maybe make it so you can contact the professor at a pc for help; sinc every pokemon center has one and you'll always need to go to one anyway.
Technically, the modern games do have a skip cutscene option (I believe it was added in Gen 8). However, it only has limited usefulness as very few things are actually considered "cutscenes" by the games.
And despite all of this, the OR record is only two minutes faster than AS
That's massive for speedrunners.
in a game that mostly consists of skipping through dialogue, overworld movement and waiting for animation-related stuff, that is a substantial difference.
I guess that makes it fair since Sapphire was by far the best version to speedrun, so Omega Ruby is by far the best version to speedrun for the remakes.
hey at least they don't have Freeze-Dry
The 2nd Glalie does have Freeze-Dry, actually.
4:20 i died
Me who nuzlocked Alpha Saphire last week: I wish I had known this before.
Mmm.
In a Nuzkocke, Sapphire is probably much more even, but still a bit harder in account of how universally free Camerupt is. Anyone can fish up a Luvdisc or a Maril, slap Surf on it, and send Camerupt to sleep.
But Latias is probably the better fit for a Nuzlocke (if you use it), Lotad is a way better pickup than Shiftry, Sableye makes Brawly free, ect
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 to be fair, most of Alpha saphire is free, given how easy the trainers are.
@@Spiney09 I mean, yeah, but complacency is how death snowballs begin
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 that’s fair, but even staying under level caps and not having rare candy cheats, I only ever lost two mons. One to a sad crit in the first gym, and the other against Steven’s Metagross. So it wasn’t too bad.
Would... would it maaaaybe be better to use the treeko line? All of the issues seem to be water type pokemon, and aside from the ice/water combo at the end sceptile may be able to hit harder
My guess is that aside from team aqua, mudkip does better against all other trainers. Like I could see wattson giving players a hard time, due to the possibility of paralysis, as well as flannery being a pain too. Also you need something that can use surf as well so you’d have to waste time finding another surfer, cause even if latias can learn surf you need to surf to get to her. I am sure there are a ton of other factors as well, but I’m i guess that’s why they call this speedrun a mess.
Like most Grass Pokemon, Rival fights kinda ruin its potential. I'm pretty sure it doesn't learns the HMs we need either.
Well for one treecko can’t learn every required hm so not an option. This is without considering how bad it is for rival fights. If surf is required you use the water starter just sometimes you catch something to use instead like in gen 1 how people use nidoking
I would for speedruns but we would need a second pokemon for surf and waterfall and dive. And swampernt learns em all
@@PulseEffects not all rival fights. It *does* eventually get swords dance + dig. But rival 2 is a biiiiig pain in the butt, especially because combusken isn't even weak to rock tomb, lol.
Latias is the best Pokémon
The way you pronounce kyogre should be a war crime, jfc 💀
Kyogre with thunder sweeps the league. Source being I’ve done it once.
Thunder is behind an otherwise optional rival fight that adds time to the run, and Kyogre CAN reasonably win without it, meaning it takes too long.
@@aprinnyonbreak1290the 25 seconds it takes to teach Kyogre the tm makes up for all the time lost in the battles
@AureaTW
First, there's the otherwise optional Rival fight that you have to get through, with Latias most likely, since whatever time save you get by using Kyogre is probably less tban flying back to get it; either way much more than 25 seconds.
Second, Thunder doesn't really help that much against Glacia, since she always sets Hail. Meaning now you're rolling a 70 dice in addition to the 33ish dice you're already rolling, also you need to make sure you're not overriding another more essential move.
A sucker punch of a third: even if all of the above didn't matter, it STILL would be slower than just using the Blue Orb and Primal Kyogre for the fight, which you already have.
And most importantly Fouth: because the run CAN be reasonably done without doing those things, you can't do them, because by choosing to do them, you are automatically behind everyone who didn't, unless your route saves more time later, which neither of these do. They sacrifice time for consistency, which is only really viable in a speedrun if the consistency we're talking about is like, turning a .05% into a 65%. And even then, once enough people get the faster .05, you can't do the 65% method anymore, since in those myriad .05% route attempts, some of them have at least comparable execution to you.
If you beg to differ, then by all means, try it and show your results. Speedruns are an evolving practice, maybe you've cracked the code. The only way to be 100% certain is to try it, or if you can't handle the execution yourself, present your idea to someone with that execution skill, or get the route TAS'd
That Trauma Center music got me mad nostalgic though
The music playing at the end. What is it?
@@Conkel The song starting at 8:38 is Vulnerability from the Trauma Center Second Opinion OST
Latias is my favourite out of the two because I just like her :) Sapphire was the game I chose when I was a lil’un and it’s what I picked when the remakes came out.
Heck, I picked White during Gen 5 and then when the sequels were up for grabs, I had to pick Black 2, which conflicts with the story but I Latias was exclusive to B2!
Sheer cold has the same chance to hit (4% higher in this case as people have pointed out) as Scald has a chance to burn. And anyone who has played showdown or in-game competitive during gen 5-8 will know, that's high enough to be very painful indeed.
Going out of your way to get 5 rare candies to level Kyogre to Level 55 would completely nullify Sheer Cold, wonder how vaviable this strat is
It's important to note that OHKO moves aren't a flat 30% and their accuracy changes based on level. your of a lower level than the pokemon using it, the accuracy increases by 1% for each level. In all of the instances shown, since Kyogre was level 50, Walrein's sheer cold was a 34% chance to hit, so in theory a slightly higher than 1 in 3 chance, which is way scarier of a situation.
4:22 "latiASS" :DD?
If you have another 3DS with the Eon Ticket, you can send an eon ticket to your other game and get Latios after defeating Kyogre.
I always thought Omega Ruby was strangely easy when I did my first plathrough, when I was a kid. Now I understand why.
Literally all the pokemon games were designed to be beaten by children
Ah yes the ten people speedrunning it must be mad about it, sadly they won't be finishing real fast a children's game
No way dude said 40% is low odds
yeah it makes sence for OR to be easy
just throw a mudkip at everything
The way he says latias
Lmao
The latias and numel slander is wild, all for the speed runners lol
i enjoyed this thoroughly, i need more.
Doesn't Primordial Sea Thunder do enough to save time during the Glacia fight??
Thunder’s in the Lilycove Mall behind a rival fight
@@lindseylindsey9200 ooo that's right that's right, I forgot about that.
the rival fight is forced in ORAS. But even without that, going to the mall, actually being able to afford the TM and teaching it still takes too long.
thing I don't get is why does no one run thunder with primal kyogre.. fixing most of the issues with the glacia fight. What stops the running from taking a pitstop to that towering mall to grab one thunder tm to go and just slapping it on Kyogre?
Swampert can learn fighting moves as far as I am aware, and teaching it brick break gets rid of the part darks that intimidates Latias in return. On top of its high attack stat and going mega, boosting that further.. it should be able to slap Mega Sharpedo into Pluto and beyond.
Plus Ice Beam is literally every water types best friend, countering both grass and flying.
Latias I can see being a problem, but having an option to counter grass types (mainly the rival and steven) is good to have. Mega Latias can offer a pinch of extra power and bulk, where the dragon coverage can come in to do decent chunks of damage.. along with shadow ball to cover mega metagross should the other two fall.
The simple answer to all these is, it's slower. We've already thought of these.
ive never heard anyone pronounce kyogre as kyogree before
Omega ruby was my first Pokémon game and it got me into Pokémon super fast. Mudkip just carrying me until I could get all the legendaries felt actually legendary.
4:49 you realize that was how it was in original Ruby and sapphire right?
I love hearing speed runners recall painful moments of a run. Their pain is my pleasure HAHAHA. Speedrun a game? Couldn't be me xD
I know it requires friendship, but I would've expected to see water pledge involved in this video
In my opinion I think alpha sapphire story makes more sense because team magma has a bunch of pokemon that are weak against water so archie would sweep maxie’s entire team
I recently soft reseted for shiny treeko in as and I could save right in front of the bag
speedrunners still have to start from a new game
"They literally gave the blue Pokémon to the red game."
It was like that with the original Ruby and Sapphire.
It was like that with Pokémon Black and White versions; Black got Reshiram, White got Zekrom.
This isn't new. I don't have sympathy for the kvetching about OR getting Latios since that was also true of Ruby version back in 2002/2003, twelve years prior to ORAS. Hell, it was worse in Ruby and Sapphire as you couldn't get them until postgame, and they were roaming Pokémon.
Also, no, Muk is not hard to KO for Latias. Yes, Latias isn't as offensive as Latios. BUT PSYCHIC IS STILL SUPER EFFECTIVE AGAINST POISON.
I don't really care if it was in the originals. That’s irellivent, and it should have been changed for these games. Also, Super Effective doesn't mean anything when Muk does not die to Super Effective moves. You should really look up Muk's stats or watch a speedrun if you're really gonna try and argue that. 😅
Justice for my gal latias
I blame the sharks!