Taliban's Rise | Is the World Ready for What’s Coming Next?
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Last month the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan participated in a UN-led conference in Doha, the first of three editions where a five-member Taliban delegation took part while women and civil society members remained absent. Three years since the Taliban overthrew the erstwhile Afghan Republic, their Islamic Emirate seems to be in a much more favourable strategic environment today. While no country has officially recognised their regime, countries in the region like China, Iran, Russia, India and the Central Asian Republics have initiated some form of engagement to further their strategic and security interests. The Taliban’s (mis)governance inside Afghanistan and close links with Al Qaeda, along with the growing threat posed by the Islamic State Khorasan Province (ISKP) which has now expanded its operations, all pose significant risk for a region already in turmoil.
How successful have the Taliban been in solidifying their internal strength and authority in Afghanistan? How have the Afghan people fared under the Emirate, especially women? In what context should we view the public diplomacy efforts that the group has undertaken to gain legitimacy from the international community? What is the state of terrorism in the country? How are terror organisations - both global and local - leveraging the Taliban’s governance? As the group sets to begin their fourth year in power, how do you see the international community’s engagement with the group moving forward? What shape will India’s policy towards Afghanistan take in the future and what consequences will the deteriorating relationship between Pakistan and Afghanistan have on the region? Can countries rely on the Taliban to further their interests? Is formal recognition a distant possibility?
Speakers:
Jayant Prasad, Former Ambassador of India to Afghanistan
Shivam Shekhawat, Junior Fellow, Observer Research Foundation, India
Sadiq Amini, Public Diplomacy and International Security Expert
Amira Jadoon, Assistant Professor, Clemson University
Moderator:
Sushant Sareen, Senior Fellow, Observer Research Foundation, India
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Sofia Amin is part of northern allies who were in power for past 20 years in Afghanistan , and they are the reason why Talibans in power today .
There is no “Northern Alliance” today; what remains are the tribal, backward Pashtun Taliban, who have been employed by Pakistani interests and the ISI to further Pakistan’s agenda in Afghanistan. These Taliban are willing to align with any power that supports them, serving as their stooges. In contrast, other groups in Afghanistan, Tajiks, Uzbeks & Hazaras - oppose these backward tribal Pakistani sponsored Taliban and seek a different path. Afghanistan is a patchwork of ethnicities, cultures, and histories, with the Taliban representing only the Pashtuns in the south. The rest of the country shares little in common with them. This geography, created over a century ago by British and Russian colonial interests as a buffer zone, no longer serves its original purpose. Given this, the only viable solution is to divide the country along ethnic lines. Allow the Pashtuns to remain in the south under Taliban rule, while the rest of the country (Tajiks, Uzbeks & Hazaras) advances as a modern state. This division would enable the north to pursue education, science, and technological progress, aligning with the global community in harmony.
@@allahmuhammad225Lots of nonsense talk.
@@TahsanHasan-x7qwhich part, Pakistan is a terrorist sponsoring state? Or terrorist Taliban come from within the tribal and backward Pashtuns from southern Afghanistan and Northwestern Pakistan?
@@allahmuhammad225 What's the definition of terr#rist? How tl#bn fall in that category?
@@allahmuhammad225 Where are you from?
As an Afghan, I have also studied in India. I and many of my classmates are working in the Islamic Emirate.
Most of these stories are not true.
The Taliban are the rulers of this geography and everything is going smoothly here.
The Islamic Emirate sees the Indian nation as a brother, they tell us this in most meetings.
And these are the people(sadiq’woman)who were in power with the support of America.
They are doing just propaganda now.
Everything is going smoothly? You should be ashamed of yourself. Maybe in your tribe culture, all the atrocities going on in Afghanistan under Taliban on girls and women are normal and smooth but remember that your tribe is not the whole Afghanistan!!
This man (Mr. Amini) is misleading you. He is one of those who thought that US will now leave and that Taliban were too weak to make any gain in Afghanistan. These people duped themselves and some of the countries like India who were caught off guard and took 3 years for India to establish some relationship with the Taliban government. Taliban are the reality who have established a strong government and full control in the country after 50 years. Talk to Taliban directly and and you will see that they are not any threat to India and that they will be ruling Afghanistan at in the next 30 years. There are concerns in terms of women's rights, but that will be gradually resolved.
Why is it the international community's responsibility to fix Afg? Let them fix themselves. Imposition of foreign ways of thinking has never worked. Let the women of Afg stand up for themselves.
Because women are not property, they are people.
As an Afghan Doctor i Support the current government of Afghanistan because now Afghanistan is independent and peaceful Country.
Also T lbns are the owners of Afghanistan and they are the heroes of independence.
They are the real protector's of Afghanistan.
We Afghans fully support our government. Because current government of Afghanistan is made patriotic Afghans.
Even a single foreign soldier is not Acceptable in Afghanistan for the nation of Afghanistan.
Now there is no war in Afghanistan also there is no kidnapping not hashish and narcotics business also there is no corruption and no corrupted people in the government.
Present economy of Afghanistan better as campare to that time when Afghanistan was occupied.
I love your words brother
From India🇮🇳
Calm down Amini! Taliban are growing stronger. Go find yourself another job, it's a true advice.
हम भारत और भारतीयों के आभारी हैं और हमेशा रहेंगे, भारत हमेशा से ही अफगान लोगों का सच्चा दोस्त रहा है, सरकारें हमेशा बदलती रहती हैं और लोगों को इससे कोई लेना-देना नहीं है, अफगान लोग हमेशा भारत के साथ खड़े हैं।
Afghanistan's present is gonna be future of Pakistan, Bangladesh and India!!!
The person who talking about Afghanistan witches not true a few women are against the Taliban but mujarty are okay with new government
Sorry to see India still supporting Northern alliance.
20 years tried and tested.
Plus the lady who talked like she is on expert .
Will someone please ask her does she once visited that part of the world???
Isis or daesh is a Pakistani and American programme afghans are fighting it.
Honour the love and respect afghans are showing you its not 15th century.
Don't do this.
Nobody takes Afghans for granted , but all aspects and views must be said and discussed be it in favour or against
@@prateekchauhan3588 You will be duped by such people. The same that you were duped and were supporting Ahmad Masoud falsely thinking Masoud will put a fight and that Taliban are against India- all of those false perceptions were based on you guys receiving info from these puppets of US and Pakistan.
@prateekchauhan3588
They are not talking about any aspect they are blaming afghans for things that is absolutely against the truth.
The people that are invited are sickening OK invite if you like but there should be on afghan as well invited.
They are blaming things on afghanistan that afghans are fighting against with their blood.
Maybe normal for you but for us it's life or death if you understand what I am saying....
Bunch of nonsense as past 20
years
If these so called analysts knew anything really about Afghanistan, it would not collapsed like it did.
Only ambassador said some reality.
Taliban is basically supported by over 90% of afghans. Only traitors disagree with them.
You like it or you do not like it Taliban will be there for a long time.
We proud of them.
India should take care of human rights and rape in India
All the so called international community and the powerful countries should look at them self in how much they care about human rights and women rights.
Look at the history and it will tell you everything!!!!
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Keep discussing in AC rooms of Lutyens while Taliban turns 4 and 40.
This is misleading,propaganda in favour of India.India itself struggle to improve the economic,social,human,infrastructure etc .India not neither economic or military power.
I never allow my daughter to go to India for study, the incidence of rape and disrespect to women in India shows how the Indian gov has failed to protect women in India, instead of discussing afghan gov ORF should organise a panel and address the issue of women's safety in India . As an Afghan woman, I am proud of the current gov at least, I feel safe to move around without any fear.
As Afghan nation we reject all the propaganda and misinformation about Afghanistan.
Afghanistan is the safest and the most peaceful country in the world.
We Afghan nation reject any propaganda and exaggeration about our beloved country and our nation.
We Afghan nation is only the original source for the firsthand information and clarification. Whoever away thousands km away from Afghanistan is not authentic information.
T lbns war was legal because they were fighting to defend their own country💪💪💪
The Sadiq is actually kazib and he is one of the former chamcha big time kazab in Afghanistan this kind of person called watanfrosh(traders)
Bhikaristani be like there can be no talk on Afghanistan without us
ORF be like LFG
Why you bring this pepal the are not represent afghnistan the ware working with Pakistan American
we are Afghans an we are Taliban
this is our Government and we love them
Taliban did expand the source of revenue and increased taxes. There were many entities such as a big malls, factories, warlords etc who owned the gov a lot of money in terms of city tax and electricity bills. Taliban collected all that. Also not many people were paying city tax and property tax. Now Taliban are closing down on people to pay such taxes. Also those who left to western countries sens a lot of money back to Afghanistan. But in general the economic situation is bad for ordinary Afghan
they used to call me the taliban queen in college
If Pashtuns are a majority in Afghanistan, and if majority Pashtuns prefer Sharia of Taliban, what can any outside power do about it? They have to deal with whoever is in power in Afghanistan.
Pashtuns are one of many ethnic minorities in Afghanistan, a country where no single ethnic group holds a majority. Instead, the only majority is linguistic, with Farsi (Dari) speakers being predominant. The current geographical and political landscape of Afghanistan was largely shaped in the late 19th century when British and Russian colonial powers established it as a buffer zone between their empires. This arbitrary division split ethnic groups like the Tajiks in the north and Pashtuns in the south between British India and the newly formed state of Afghanistan. The foundation of Afghanistan was imposed by these colonial powers, with no input from the local ethnic groups. Today, Afghanistan is a patchwork of ethnicities, each with distinct linguistic, cultural, and geographical identities. The deep divisions-linguistic, cultural, and social-have prevented the formation of a cohesive national identity. Instead, the country remains fragmented and divided. Colonial powers exploited these divisions, using ethnic groups to further their own interests. The Taliban, a product of the Pashtun ethnic group, is now controlled by external actors like Pakistan's ISI and China. This movement perpetuates a backward, tribal way of life that stifles progress and modernization. The solution may lie in realigning the country along ethnic lines: allowing Pashtuns to govern their own areas with their traditional practices, while enabling other regions to develop into modern, progressive states. This would facilitate educational and scientific advancement, fostering an environment where women can be empowered and contribute fully to society, in stark contrast to the Taliban’s oppressive regime that views women as second-class citizens and rejects progress in favor of outdated, patriarchal values.
Pashtuns are the majority but around 40% of the total population of Afghanistan.
@@adarshyadav5926 Firstly, it’s important to recognize that Afghanistan has never conducted a comprehensive scientific census. All population figures we have are based on estimates, and it’s well-known that certain groups, particularly the Pashtuns, have a tendency to inflate or exaggerate their numbers. They consistently push their figures higher than they realistically are. However, any credible and realistic estimate would place their population at around 30% to 35%. Even if we were to generously accept the inflated figure of 40%, it still wouldn’t change the reality of their actual proportion within the population.
So, according to you, 40% is a majority? I’m not sure whether to laugh or cry at this mathematical revelation. Did your math teacher in India just give up on you, or did you skip that day when they taught basic percentages? Because, let me tell you, 40% is about as much a majority as a bicycle is a luxury car. I mean, if 40% were a majority, then we’d have to rewrite the entire concept of democracy, wouldn’t we? Imagine going to vote and the candidate with 40% of the votes wins because, in your alternate universe, that’s a “majority.” Newsflash: a majority means more than 50%-more than half. So, unless you’re living in a world where numbers mean whatever you want them to, your 40% is just another way of saying, “I didn’t quite get there, but let’s pretend I did.” You know what? I think your math teacher might be looking for a refund on their teaching certificate, because clearly, something went horribly wrong here. Maybe stick to something safer next time, like counting your fingers-just make sure you don’t stop at four and call it ten.
@@adarshyadav5926 Firstly, it’s important to recognize that Afghanistan has never conducted a comprehensive scientific census. All population figures we have are based on estimates, and it’s well-known that certain groups, particularly the Pashtuns, have a tendency to inflate or exaggerate their numbers. They consistently push their figures higher than they realistically are. However, any credible and realistic estimate would place their population at around 30% to 35%. Even if we were to generously accept the inflated figure of 40%, it still wouldn’t change the reality of their actual proportion within the population.
So, according to you, 40% is a majority? I’m not sure whether to laugh or cry at this mathematical revelation. Did your math teacher in India just give up on you, or did you skip that day when they taught basic percentages? Because, let me tell you, 40% is about as much a majority as a bicycle is a luxury car. I mean, if 40% were a majority, then we’d have to rewrite the entire concept of democracy, wouldn’t we? Imagine going to vote and the candidate with 40% of the votes wins because, in your alternate universe, that’s a “majority.” Newsflash: a majority means more than 50%-more than half. So, unless you’re living in a world where numbers mean whatever you want them to, your 40% is just another way of saying, “I didn’t quite get there, but let’s pretend I did.” You know what? I think your math teacher might be looking for a refund on their teaching certificate, because clearly, something went horribly wrong here. Maybe stick to something safer next time, like counting your fingers-just make sure you don’t stop at four and call it ten.
@@allahmuhammad225 when we get baloch istan we won't need you plus pashtuns are wrecking pakistan it's just a few years away when we get that seaport we won't need you goodbye
All propaganda, don't take this fake information seriously.
Propagandist is telling a lie is a hilarious.
This is the best scholars we produce... LOL dear God... All chat gpt copy paste
1 Taliban army = 100 Indian army 😂
SADIQ AMINI blaming India because Indian Govt has talks with Current Afghan Govt. is silly.
If SADIQ AMINI want to Democratic Afghan, then YOU/Afghan people should decide and revolt against current govt. It Previous Democratic Afghan Army laid ARMS with out Fight and People accepted Taliban Govt with out any resistance, with in HOURS/DAYS , not months or Years.
USA spent TRILLIONS of DOLLARS + 20 YEARS MILITARY to establish Democratic Afghan. But with in HOURS/DAYS its returned to TALIBAN.
Its like in Mahabharat, now people ("so call Intelligent/secular") like to Blame Lord.Krishna for not stopping WAR even thought he was GOD. People should Blame "Duryodhana" for not accepting Lord.Krishna's Peace Offer.
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Amin is part of former northern alliance who duped themselves and some other countries and still say bushtit as if Taliban are weak. I believe Indians are now more aware of the situation in Afghanistan and will not listen to these puppets of US and Pakistan
She needs to speak English first before blame taliban
ईमानदारी से कहूं तो, जब हम लोगों को इस तरह से देखते हैं,
सादिक अमीरी इस तरह की चर्चा के लिए तैयार हैं,
यह मुझे दुखी करता है क्योंकि उनका उत्तरी गठबंधन के पक्ष में एक दृष्टिकोण है क्योंकि वह दक्षिणी ताजिकिस्तान के खाटलोन क्षेत्र के कुलोब शहर से एक ताजिक आप्रवासी हैं,
जब वे सत्ता में थे, उन्होंने न केवल (पश्तूनों) का नरसंहार किया
वे अफगानिस्तान के हिंदू और सिख समुदायों के पतन का मुख्य कारण भी थे,
उन्होंने तेजी से पूरे हिंदू और सिख परिवारों को मार डाला और उनकी संपत्ति जब्त कर ली
वे पाकिस्तानी सेना की खुफिया एजेंसियों के साथ मिलकर काम कर रहे हैं,
उत्तरी गठबंधन MI6 और I, S, I के जनरल हमीद गुल का निर्माण था
To be honest, when we see people as,
Sadiq Amiri is on board for such a discussion,
It makes me sad because he has a view in favor of the Northern Alliance because he is a Tajik immigrant from the Kulob city in the Khatlon Region in southern Tajikistan,
when they were in power, They have not only massacred (Pashtuns)
they were also the main reason for the decline of Afghanistan's, Hindu and Sikh communities,
they rapidly killed entire Hindu and Sikh families and seized their belongings
They are working very closely with Pakistani army intelligence,
The Northern Alliance was a creation of MI6 & General Hameed Gul of I, S, I
india has its own issues that needs to look at and discuss
Sadique meaning the truthful person but he is opposit it means that he is liar
No one is ready! Including Modi. The second panipat is,,,,.
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pakistanis trolling from food queues.
All regional and intl players are playing a new chess game with Taliban at the expense of the Afghan people and the Pushtunz of Pakistan........
This is misleading,propaganda in favour of India.India itself struggle to improve the economic,social,human,infrastructure etc .India not neither economic or military power.
India should focus on their own country and people.
Is India sowing a seed of hatred between the Indians and the afghans? By allowing platforms to individuals who have a narrow and bias point of view on matters they do not have right or authority to talk about! I strongly suggest the India people to make wise choices! Their good relations with the current afghan government would not only provide them the assures of security from their side but also work hand to hand despite differences to aim for prosperity. Let’s be real here, the Indians need the Afghans more than the Afghans need them! Whatever good you as Indians do we will give you twice in return! Be it respectful and aim mutual interest! Don’t interfere in the internal affairs of Afghans! As we are not interfere with your internal affairs. We are Muslims, we have duties, and we would not back down! Never have we!
India should know better!
Don’t be act dumb within the region
Make analysis of Rahul Gandhi is linked with anti nationals ?
In terms of aid, Taliban will allow an organization to operate only if they include some names given by the Taliban official into aid recipients list
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The Pashtun Taliban in Afghanistan represent a radical, backward ideology that is detrimental not only to Afghanistan but to the entire region. These tribalists are notorious for their anti-education stance, their hostility towards women’s empowerment, and their rejection of modernity and progress. They cling to a primitive, anti-civilization outlook that serves as a significant hindrance to the advancement of society. Afghanistan’s current borders and political landscape are a legacy of colonial manipulation. In the late 19th century, British and Russian powers established this geography as a buffer zone, cutting through the heartlands of various ethnic groups to serve their imperial interests. This artificial construct brought together disparate ethnicities-Pashtuns, Tajiks, Uzbeks, and Hazaras-into a single state, which has never been a natural fit. Today, the Pashtuns in the south, dominated by the Taliban, are fundamentally at odds with the values upheld by the rest of the country. They oppose education, reject women’s rights, and resist progress in favor of a tribal, theocratic regime. In stark contrast, the other ethnic groups, such as the Tajiks, Uzbeks, and Hazaras, are inclined towards modernization. They embrace education, advocate for women’s rights, and are eager to engage with global advancements in science, technology, and development. Given these profound differences, the only viable solution is to reorganize Afghanistan along ethnic lines. Allow the Pashtuns, with their Taliban rule, to either merge with Pakistan or establish an autonomous region where they can continue to adhere to their traditional values. Meanwhile, the other ethnic groups should be free to pursue a progressive path. They can focus on education, technological development, and social reforms without the encumbrance of regressive elements. This division would enable the country to move forward harmoniously, with each region following its own trajectory based on its values and aspirations.
We have seen you corrupt criminals during the occupation by the U.S. and NATO. You destroyed the country by these empty slogans and driving decisions between various Afghan ethnicities. We Afghans are glad you corrupt criminals and war lords have fled the country.
pajeets are trying to be relevant 🤣🤣
This afghan guy is not right person to speak he told everything that is not right as Businessman I am very please with the taliban spurted and protection they build up the country that others was not able to do it in the last 50 years
He’s laying and he should not allow to talk in this tips of occasions
Laying laying laying