thats not how people around here use their ram 3500's...it seems to be made for dropping kids off at school and driving to walmart, although the coolest walmartians have lifted trucks with giant flags
I must agree. After watching this video, my wife and I purchased a 2019 Ram 3500 Tradesman from Bayway, Chrysler, Jeep, Ram in Pasadena, Tx 12/19/2019. Never knew how strong these trucks were. Thanks TFL.
@@80f250 only a few states get away with a law like that because it's extremely hard to constitutionally regulate something like that except in the commercial world. You usually only need a CDL for commercial use.
Steve Svensson I’m not sure what these people are thinking. I purchased an F550 truck with the 6.7L and it only has a 30 gallon tank. I fill up every single day.
@@JeremySchoeder Yeah it'd be nice if "those" guys were equally poor as everyone else. Then they could go more places in the world without fear of resentment &/or harm. Just saying.
Man, i just came from the gladiator towing video (same loop) and i'm shocked. This beast did better in fuel economy towing 25000 lbs more... That's very impressive.
Only gripe is the fuel tank size.... Why only 35gal on something rated so high?? I see those perfect for 2500s like my F250 but 3500s should come with larger tanks.
Even on a big truck like that there is only so much space, by the time you add DPF, axle, transfer cases and DEF tank there is only so much room for fuel. That's why semis have the tanks where they do, there's no room between the frame
CaptAmerica300 I’ve been complaining about the fuel capacity for some time now. If Titan can make a 51 gallon to replace the stock fuel then why not partner up to make that happen? I don’t care to have an auxiliary tank in my truck bed.
phuc ewe unless you do a lot of towing/city driving, you shouldn't be regening until roughly 40,000 miles. I owned a 2016 ram 2500 mega cab limited Cummins and not once did I regen, considering I did most my driving on the freeway.
UPstater5.9 exactly! Once you got that engine hot, you're burning fuel efficiently and won't need to regen. That's why they tell you to drive on the freeway for at least 25 minutes or more.
You are exactly right. The fuel tank is way to small. I have the same issue. I am filling up every 200 to 250 miles, that is when I am at 1/4 tank. Towing life is real.
Lol my bosses f250 6.7 gets 13 mpg and about 11 mpg towing a 9000lb chipper. And i was driving like a grandpa. I dont understand these new trucks it dont feel like 400hp. My 7.3 feels more powerful than these new ones
Why not top off before getting on the scale? How much weight was actually on the hitch??? BTW, Kent drove a Cummins for nearly 100 miles without saying, "it sounds like a Peterbilt". Are you feeling OK, buddy???
No middle class person is buying that truck, rather they spend $35k on a used 3500 cummins and flash tune it to 1000/lbs. That truck in the video is for those than can afford the trailer and the horses for horse shows.
That's about what my 5500 Cummins 4x4 gets hauling a loaded 40 foot flatbed at that same weight. The difference is I have a 56 gallon main and I installed a 90 gallon auxiliary. It has MUCH longer legs than my bladder. I can pick and choose which states I want to do business with. (I never buy fuel in California or Oregon.)
I never understand why anyone would spend that much on a light duty truck, when you can buy a used freightliner with a Detroit diesel for much less, and end up with far more capacity and good to a million miles. Plus cheaper to fix. Hauling heavy loads, that truck will be toast by 300k
@Ammon Herrera if we're talking about running a business, profit is king. You can haul more, less maintenance, less down time, its much easier to drive as far as distances go (much more comfortable with air ride cab and seats, not to mention easier on the back), and if you know how to back a trailer, getting a class A is a piece of cake. I got mine after reading and memorizing the road book, and with my only trailer experience being driving a lawnmower with a small trailer, and my old 74 vw bug with a 6x8 trailer. Just saying, that pulling heavy loads with a light duty truck is usually more of a headache then its worth. I'm in the parts industry, and most of the guys I sell parts to, are always having to fix their trucks. A few of my customers who've I've told to get semi's and who did their own research, and eventually did, only call me for maintenance stuff, like oil and filters now. For profit and down time, you simply can't beat a semi. And the favorite among them is a freightliner with a Detroit diesel. Much cheaper parts, and cheaper to buy. You can buy a light duty dually in the $80k -$100k range, that'll last you maybe 200-300k before something major needs replacing, or a used freightliner with a rebuilt motor and trans for $50k-$60k that'll go for another 800-1mil miles before it needs something major. Yes insurance is a bit more and it it'll get a solid 6mpg vs 8mpg on a dually. But that's greatly offset by the loads you can carry, and the money you will make. 30k lbs to a semi is a light load. 40-50k is where they max out out with a standard tandem trailer.
And then I tune it with efi live, add a little timing, remove the post injection events and emissions systems and suddenly that 8mpg turns into 12 when towing and get 20mpg empty. When does the extra fuel burned, the pollution behind that as well as the mining for metals to create the catalyst systems outweigh the tail pipe output pollution? Guess what it doesn’t, that’s how our government works, only change what the public can see, not actually reduce pollution.
After I lost my Ford truck in the flood of Hurricane Harvey, I did some major research in regards to buying a 2500 diesel. I wanted a truck with enough HP to pull at fifth wheel camper later on. The Dodge Ram 2500 Tradesman Cummins diesel with an 8ft bed is what I ended up getting. I couldn't he happier. The most I've pulled with it is a 31ft bumper pull camper. It runs like a dream.
You got a ram instead of a ford?? Ram trucks are literally garbage your going to do so much maintenance to it lmao replace 5 trannys. Or u could have bought a new ford with zero issues.
@@tylersutton7667 I have a 2011 Dodge 3500. I have had head gasket done at 346,000 miles & now is at 767,000 miles & I haul travel trailers for a living with it. No problems with my transmission yet. My biggest problem is how hot it gets pulling hills & if hot out I have to turn air conditioner off & put it in manual 5th gear pulling hill to help keep it from getting to hot.
Absolute shit, never buying a Ram with a Cummins, after they added all this DPF DEF ECU electronic bullshit, old school 12 valves, leaf spring, straight pipes, and 5 speed Nv4500, raw, and organic. Not this jazzed-up piss-injected with some aisin auto. Trucks are going to shit, Clessie Cummins, and the dodge brothers are rolling in their graves.
Thanks for showing the actual payload number for that specific truck. We’re looking at truck/truck camper combos and need to know real world info like that - not max payload from the manufacturer for a stripped down model. We would love to see it for new Chevy and Ford trucks featured on here too.
Yup, that would be an immediate out of service. you can hook it to the same location the chain is but not the chain or any part of that chain. Not a good mistake to make.
I didn't see any heavy duty trucks in this video. If you're referring to the Dodge you have - that'd be a light duty truck with a medium duty powerplant which means it's a light duty truck..........
@@R.E.L.Asphalt_Sealcoating my dad has one went through a motor and a transmission..the motor and Bruce Jenner on them aren't in sync so they sit there and battle each other
I've had 4 of the 6.4 hemi rams 2 3500 single wheel and a 3500 dually as well as a 2500 air suspension in rear since they were introduced in 14 and I put 30 - 40 thousand a year they all towed well and 0 problems tranny or motor my current has the 4:10 rear gear and tows really well just towed from Indiana to north eastern n.y. little to no wind 9,000 pd trailer averaged 9.7 mpg on the trip running the speed limits on I 90. only gripe is the gearing in the tranny the eight speed should be a ton better we'll see.
Most ridiculous thing I ever saw If your hauling that you need a tractor with air brakes and same on the trailer it is stupid to go down the highway like that
Love this channel! I'm a Ford guy but love seeing Ford, Ram, and Chevy. I would drive all those trucks in heart beat!! Keep up good work loving seeing American Trucks especially diesel ones!
I'm a chevy man...and i generally prefer the base work truck models. But, that is one beautiful piece of machinery. If i ever had more money than brains, I'd buy one.
xinferis chief very true, they make the base models nice enough nowadays. Plus I like the vinyl floors and seats, don’t feel as bad when I get em dirty.
$88k truck, it’s into the rich folks price range and excludes the “ working mans” truck which are the people who buy them. I don’t know many avg. Joe’s who can drop $80-90k on any vehicle.
Yea i wish but even stripping it down to just essentials 4x4 best motor trans combo upgraded suspension its still more than i can afford new. Guess ill just have to keep buying used and repairing myself.
@Roscoe Dogg the original set that came with my truck started pitting within 500 miles. Took truck to dealer and they said keep driving til oil change comes up. Went in for oil change dealership changed all tires. 2nd set doing better but truck still rides like crap. Can't wait til they wear out so I can get my Cooper's.
Why anyone would use a pickup truck to pull 30k + pounds is beyond me. I bet that in a lot of states you need a CDL to do that. Why not just get a real truck for that kind of work? Plus you get the added safety benefit of air brakes. I pull a gooseneck for a living with a 2018 hd pickup truck and there is no way I would pull a heavy load like that without air brakes no matter what brand of pickup. For the 200k$ it costs for the setup shown in this video, you can get a pretty decent tractor/trailer setup and still have a bit of money left for a car for when you don’t work. Of course you won’t be able to pump up your chest and win pissing contests but if you need to buy one of these pickups to feel like a man you have other issues. It seems nowadays that torque ratings and towing capacity numbers that manufacturers rate their pickups are inversely proportionate to their buyers’ penis size.
So the fuel used for burn off isn’t counted?! Does the owner get that for free? Isn’t this a “real world review “. maybe things are drastically different in Colorado. Too much smoking!
This way they can standardize all their tests on all the trucks. If they had a burn-off halfway through it would skew the numbers so if the Chevy or Ford do the run without a burn off during the test they would be artificially high compared to the Ram that did the burn off. While you have to factor that into your cost of hauling a trailer this is just to start a comparison between the trucks on even footing.
@@TFLtruck if it does do a regen and the fords or chevys do not you have to count dodge's regen. It happened and will happen to anyone that uses that truck. I get the idea of a fair comparison but, it happened so you should count it
Doubtful, at 55-60 yes. I have 2 2016 Rams hauling the same weight 5 days a week and unless you stay under 60MPH you're not going to see much improvement
It's amazing how far trucks have come, to have this much more power and this much more truck and still get the fuel mileage of an old non emissions truck is crazy.
For a truck this size and with all the bells and whistles, I think under $90k is a decent price. But they should really make larger fuel tanks on these heavy duty trucks.
RSD N/A The 3500s tow more now as they used to. The 1500s are very close to what Ford and Chevy claim but if you go on their websites and spec out a truck with the most power the Ram tows more.
I must agree. After watching this video, my wife and I purchased a 2019 Ram 3500 Tradesman from Bayway, Chrysler, Jeep, Ram in Pasadena, Tx 12/19/2019. Never knew how strong these trucks were. Thanks TFL
@@ShersGarage remember though that even the Ford tiers it's fuel tanks to cab size. The max tow Regular Cabs still only have a 29 gal tank, Super Cabs have a 34 gal tank and only the Crew Cab with 8' box has the 48 gal tank size.
This truck can tow 50k guaranteed. Yea it get the whole legality thing. But if your ever in need this bad boy will haul that 50k and not break a sweat.
News that matter are Dodges reliable my father has a 2008 Dodge GrandCaravan SXT with 80,000 miles and firestone said it needs a new engine and I really want a Dodge Charger
For anybody wondering about the cost-benefit of a pickup vs a medium or heavy duty truck, that's better than my work truck gets. I drive a 20' reefer truck with a 33k gvwr every day. I'm not usually maxed out every day, and I get 7-8 mpg. This rig was rolling at 36k+ gcwr.
Good point. What engine and trans does your truck use? I guess the only benefit to a diesel pickup is being able to park in parking lots(duallys are tougher), hauling smaller loads, the crew cab, traveling unloaded, and the 4x4. Crew cab and 4x4 is possible but a big expensive deal on a medium size freightliner or international..... and a medium truck gets worse mpg than a diesel pickup when driving around unloaded. I think these guys who hotshot heavy loads most of the time may be better off with a medium truck lol
@@technicalitems731 I don't know. It's an old Mitsubishi cabover that I hate. I used to drive an old Sterling that we've affectionately dubbed the "War Wagon", but the reefer took a dump on me last month, so they put me in this piece of junk. Our fleet mechanic said we're getting some new Freightliners to replace a couple of these old cabovers, and they cannot come soon enough.
I just bought a new Peterbilt single axle 33k with the 9L engine and 10speed it cost less than this truck (well till the dump bed was added) Long term the med duty trucks are the better investment. They’ll do it everyday all day without a hiccup.
Tons of questions regarding fuel tank sizes. I too question why such small fuel tanks in trucks that are supposedly built to haul and tow, not cruise around town to the mall and walmart. I wasn't exactly pleased that my 2008 Toyota Tundra had a 26 gallon fuel tank but my 1999 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4 had a 33 gallon tank....and the 26 gallon tank in my tundra was only 3 gallons larger than the stock tank in my 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee....would the reason to have smaller tanks due to safety maybe? Less fuel to spill in an accident? That's the only dang thing I could think of other than thinking they're going to save enormous weight by chopping off the fuel tank when they dang things are already cheap ass plastic to begin with. A definite answer from the automakers would really be great, as I'm sure others want to know the real reason too.
They had to make room for the DEF tank (about 6 gallons worth), and there are more crossmembers to deal with on the frame as well. Add to that the enormous exhaust system with particulate filters, resonators, and huge mufflers to keep noise down....There just ain't a whole lot of room under there. A Ford Superduty can still be had with a 48-gallon tank though...
@@yetisdeuce1315 They could have left out that nonsense DEF crap, none of that stuff does any bit of good....ok well the mechanics love them when that emissions crap fails rendering the vehicle completely useless, but the rest of us don't need or want it...notice no government ordered service vehicles that the people in congress use have any of that crap....there's a huge reason behind it...reliability.
Im wondering about night hauling with trucks rigged to the max towing capacity like this test. If I'm not mistaken this ram has air ride suspension, rig without that feature would have a considerable squat, which would put the projection of the headlights upward. Then if you add bad weather like snow and mountains, now you're talking major pucker factor.
@@dchawk81 wonderful idea, all the truckers in the ditch in a blizzard wish they would have thought of it, lol. Hard money jobs and schedules sometimes get in the way of wise decisions.
Amazing vehicle. RAM continues to lay the smackdown on the rest. Couple things though: - The configurable menu was available on the 4th gen deluxe models - The exhaust brake measurement was available on the 4th gen deluxe models (you just have to select it in the configurable menu). - The automatic bed lowering was available on 4th gen. Same goes for backup and trailer cameras.
I never understood why so much wood and leather in the cabin, I want my trucks to be work vehicles that can tow. I don’t want comfort I want more towing and better mpg
That new gauge cluster is terrific! It's great you can specify what you want for the small gauges as well as the main display. :) Amazing, big truck- very nice! The Hot Shot guys would love this, I'd think. (Except for the fuel tank size. Have to add an extra tank in the truck bed, probably.)
I just got my special order Ram 3500 Limited (MSRP) $90,120. I have a Titan 51 gallon fuel tank on order as I agree with you guys regarding the size of the stock tank. I have been a Ford guy all my life and this is the first Ram for me; I absolutely love this truck!
That’s an interesting mpg on that truck. I have have a 2024 Ram dually and I have a bumper pull that weighs about 9,000 lbs and I average around 9.5 mpg. I’m driving 65-70 mph in Texas.
If you are getting 8.7mpg and rolling along at 70mph you would probably be stopping about every 3 and 1/2 hours or about 250 miles; because you won't use up all 32 gallons. Which depending on other passengers, kids, or pets is likely how often you would need to stop so they can use the bathroom anyways.
@@sketchyssk8shop That's what I was getting at. Then the Ram should at less than half the weight, should get twice what you get. I think they got less than 10 mpg. Could it be the government has something to do with the disparity in mpg's between light duty and heavy duty class 8 trucks?
These are all fine and dandy videos and i really enjoy watching them. But I wanna know what my truck does stats wise after 150,000 miles. Im pretty sure all these new trucks are so similar in stats that they are almost identical, I wanna see what they look like 4 years down the line. Would my 2015 KingRanch F-350 compare now to when you guys did the Ike when it was new? What brand holds the test of time? When looking at a new truck, I wanna know what is going to last when I'm spending $100,000+.... Yes I know there are variables and whatnot to take into consideration for older vehicles, but in general.. How do they hold up?
To pull big loads I get it but with my 2019 Silverado I went from LA to Tucson AZ loaded with 11,500 pounds and made it with 1/8 tank to spare. I love diesel but I see less and less point in them now unless it's a huge load.
With the diesel emissions crap, add in the initial additional cost of getting the diesel engine, additional maintenance and repair costs, DEF, etc. they're far from worth it anymore unless all you do is tow heavily every day for long distances, then you may break even but for the rest of us out there that just head up to the hills camping and hunting a few weekends a month its not even close to worth the additional costs associated with owning a diesel....add to that the ridiculously over-inflated fuel prices for diesel fuel.
@@wildbill23c If you tow over the continental divide every other week you wouldn't even compare the two. Big difference at 12k elevation! No gassers insight pulling much weight up there!
@@handtohandcombat3535 With the way people are today skipping maintenance neither would last very long LOL. $90k truck, ehh the $200 oil change is just too expensive.
Question for TFL. Wow 50 feet and the truck has 30,000 of the 80, 000lbs limit I've seen probably from Federal motor carriers. My buddy used to drive containers from the port that maxed at 55 feet and 80,000 lbs before he needed permits. What's the benefit of using a full size pickup over a semi-tractor trailer? I feel like these task push the trucks to their performance limits in everyway. For a follow-up questions, does the cost-to-own numbers back up a full size truck carrying heavy near-limit loads over a semi-tractor trailer doing the same job when consider the overhead of wear and tear? You can even considered used semis. My buddy got a decent Peterbuilt for 70k in 2009 money. Port emissions put him out of business which may be important to consider in these questions. Thanks for your hard work guys. John
At least in this case, hauling a horse trailer, perhaps the benefit of using a full-size pickup over a semi-tractor trailer would be the extra versatility of the pickup. If the horse owner is only occasionally taking the animals to shows or auctions, the pickup when not hauling that huge trailer can be used for countless other things, whereas the semi would be captive only to that horse trailer task.
@Nathan Gregory agreed love semi's but with a pickup when you aren't working or hauling you can still cruise around town and use it as a normal pickup truck.
Question to anyone,,,,,,HELP,,,,,,,I have a 2017 Ram DRW 6.7 diesel with the Aisin transmission and can’t seem to find what is normal transmission temperature and what is dangerous.
your gonna be in REAL trouble when the cop pulls out the portable scales!!!! your a little *OVERWEIGHT* son, ... ouch! let me see your ... commercial drivers licence & d.o.t. physical card & electronic drivers logs & ifta fuel sticker & tax i.d. number proof of commercial insurance oh, you don't have ANY of that ...?? well NO problem! we'll call the local towing company and drag your whole rig to the more expensive IMPOUND lot we can find! how that 30k working out now? LMFAO leave the heavy loads for the semi's they have the suspension and BRAKES to handle them!!
This is one of the few times I've seen a Ram with the tow mirrors out actually towing. What is it with Ram owners always driving with the tow mirrors out?
The tow mirrors have huge blind spots if you close them. That’s why people leave them open even when empty. It’s a stupid design and people do get into accidents with the mirrors closed simply based on massive blind spots.
Ram has one of the worst designs in tow mirrors. When they're out they're useful when they in which is rare they're useless and look horrible. Bad design.
@9:24 So, at max trailer weight you're only allowed 16% tongue weight? I could be wrong, but isn't that kinda light for a gooseneck? Might be safer to say the max trailer weight is 26K pounds? That would at least get you a 20% tongue weight and still be legal...
It gets 8.73 mpg
It gets 8.73 mpg.
It gets 8.73 mpg
Like this to get it to the top
Just imagine how much better the fuel economy would be with a real engine.
@@RayleighCriterion fair enough haha
280mile range... masewell get a tesla
@@AndrewBrowner lol which tesla tows 30 + k pounds ?
@@mandosnchz5361 interestingengineering.com/the-new-tesla-semi-electric-truck-a-pre-production-review this one actually
Almost 9mpg hauling 29k. Thats almost as good as a 2wd tundra lol
You pull 29k with a Tundra?
@@rigging1377 bro a Tundra would rip in half if you tried pulling 29k. It was a gag at how bad the mpg on the Tundra is
@@brandonorozco8358 he's referring to normal gas mileage
@@brandonorozco8358 dummy
Bwahaha!!!
thats not how people around here use their ram 3500's...it seems to be made for dropping kids off at school and driving to walmart, although the coolest walmartians have lifted trucks with giant flags
stickloaf ur talking out ur ass. No one would buy a dually with the 6.7 unless they hauling shit.
If you got the money to buy it you can do whatever you want with it.
Buying a truck like this just for a daily driver is such a waste of time and money. Nobody in their right minds buy it for just daily
Iv seen it done alot
I haul 22,500lbs worth of trailer, 4 horses and gear every weekend.
You guys do such great work. Over the last couple of years I’m amazed in casual conversation how many TFL fans I am encountering. Good for you!
Thank you.
they really do
I must agree. After watching this video, my wife and I purchased a 2019 Ram 3500 Tradesman from Bayway, Chrysler, Jeep, Ram in Pasadena, Tx 12/19/2019. Never knew how strong these trucks were. Thanks TFL.
Kind of defeated the point of weighing in BEFORE filling up the fuel tank...
Finally back to towing videos with hds!
29,000 lbs? Toto, I have a feeling we’re not in Class D anymore...
You're gonna need a medical card to drive that.
Need a CDL as well
Don McMannamy in Texas you have to have a certain type of CDL to drive anything over 26,000 lbs I believe. It’s not a full CDL though
@@wq198mnr actually any vehicle gvcw over 26000 in any state requires a cdl
@@80f250 only a few states get away with a law like that because it's extremely hard to constitutionally regulate something like that except in the commercial world. You usually only need a CDL for commercial use.
Nice truck, can't go wrong with Cummins. Under 40 gal tank? What were they thinking? I have a 40 gallon tank in my 94 Suburban.
Steve Svensson I’m not sure what these people are thinking. I purchased an F550 truck with the 6.7L and it only has a 30 gallon tank. I fill up every single day.
I have a 44 gal tank in my v10 excursion
@@kirk0respite hahaha yeah with that kind of mileage i bet
The newer Suburbans only have about 30 gallon tanks. MPG is improving so tanks are shrinking.
@@DeltaSierra426 I get 16 mpg in her. She has over 250,000 miles..love my burban
Wow $117,000 for the trailer and $88,000 for the truck, that's nuts, I could buy a house with that money
That's true, but guys that buy these rigs already have a house and a couple thousand acres with a barn full of $30,000 horses. Perspective.
It can not be a big market. Must people in my neck of the woods are homeless.
@@JeremySchoeder Yeah it'd be nice if "those" guys were equally poor as everyone else. Then they could go more places in the world without fear of resentment &/or harm. Just saying.
@This One. No it ain’t crazy but stealth wealth or hicks country money. Yep, that’s Ferrari or some Lamborghini price tag. To each his own.
People who buy these vehicles have a ranch with hundreds of acres and thousands of dollars worth of livestock. They can afford it.
Man, i just came from the gladiator towing video (same loop) and i'm shocked. This beast did better in fuel economy towing 25000 lbs more... That's very impressive.
gas
Only gripe is the fuel tank size.... Why only 35gal on something rated so high?? I see those perfect for 2500s like my F250 but 3500s should come with larger tanks.
Even on a big truck like that there is only so much space, by the time you add DPF, axle, transfer cases and DEF tank there is only so much room for fuel. That's why semis have the tanks where they do, there's no room between the frame
They said 32 not 35
CaptAmerica300 I’ve been complaining about the fuel capacity for some time now. If Titan can make a 51 gallon to replace the stock fuel then why not partner up to make that happen? I don’t care to have an auxiliary tank in my truck bed.
@@Morphz_Unlimited Honestly, probably some EPA bs that applies to OEM designs but can be fudged in the aftermarket.
I have a 50 gallon Titan tank on my 14 mega cab dually. Best mod ever!!
Plenty of room for the bigger tank, should come standard!!
You guys should show the weight slip from the scale would be a cool Instagram opportunity.... great job guys @TFL @thefastlanetruck
3:20 Why not include regen? I understand it requires longer tests, but that's the reality of life for diesel these days.
Shouldn't be regening until roughly 40,000 miles!
phuc ewe unless you do a lot of towing/city driving, you shouldn't be regening until roughly 40,000 miles. I owned a 2016 ram 2500 mega cab limited Cummins and not once did I regen, considering I did most my driving on the freeway.
John Doe tell us more of this magical 40k mile regen cycle
@John BS.
Jason Larsen how's it magical?? Maybe you should own a diesel before talking out your ass!
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I get 11MPG on my 2001 2500 towing 20K... GCVWR of 29K Lbs. You'd think in 2 decades they could do better.
They could if we still had the same emissions standards from 20 years ago.
It's actually important to know how much regen impacts fuel consumption.
You shouldn't be regening until roughly 40,000 miles, unless you are towing a lot or do a lot of city driving.
Towing or not, my truck regens about once per tank on average. For people that do a lot of stop and go, it can be more often than that.
Chris then there's something wrong with your truck. Not once did my truck EVER regen in 15,000 miles.
You wouldnt regen pulling this load anyways. It was hot the whole time
UPstater5.9 exactly! Once you got that engine hot, you're burning fuel efficiently and won't need to regen. That's why they tell you to drive on the freeway for at least 25 minutes or more.
You are exactly right. The fuel tank is way to small. I have the same issue. I am filling up every 200 to 250 miles, that is when I am at 1/4 tank. Towing life is real.
Lol my bosses f250 6.7 gets 13 mpg and about 11 mpg towing a 9000lb chipper. And i was driving like a grandpa. I dont understand these new trucks it dont feel like 400hp. My 7.3 feels more powerful than these new ones
I'm preety sure they sell extended gas tanks. Atleast for my 06 5.9 there is 3 or 4 feet of room straight ahead of the tank.
Why not top off before getting on the scale? How much weight was actually on the hitch???
BTW, Kent drove a Cummins for nearly 100 miles without saying, "it sounds like a Peterbilt". Are you feeling OK, buddy???
We had nearly 4,900 lbs on the hitch.
@@TFLtruck Perfect, that's right where my toyhauler is, so what was your drive axle weight on the scale, then?
Trailer company out of its mind 117000
Pretty cheap considering how huge it is. If you transport a couple of horses worth $300 000 each it's totally worth it 🐎
@@AgentSmith911 what kind of horse is worth 300000!!
A thoroughbred race horse
@@AgentSmith911 arabian thoroughbred...
Buffhorses
For nearly 100K it is a joke! No wonder American farmers are broke
No middle class person is buying that truck, rather they spend $35k on a used 3500 cummins and flash tune it to 1000/lbs. That truck in the video is for those than can afford the trailer and the horses for horse shows.
That's about what my 5500 Cummins 4x4 gets hauling a loaded 40 foot flatbed at that same weight. The difference is I have a 56 gallon main and I installed a 90 gallon auxiliary. It has MUCH longer legs than my bladder. I can pick and choose which states I want to do business with. (I never buy fuel in California or Oregon.)
I never understand why anyone would spend that much on a light duty truck, when you can buy a used freightliner with a Detroit diesel for much less, and end up with far more capacity and good to a million miles. Plus cheaper to fix. Hauling heavy loads, that truck will be toast by 300k
@Ammon Herrera if we're talking about running a business, profit is king. You can haul more, less maintenance, less down time, its much easier to drive as far as distances go (much more comfortable with air ride cab and seats, not to mention easier on the back), and if you know how to back a trailer, getting a class A is a piece of cake. I got mine after reading and memorizing the road book, and with my only trailer experience being driving a lawnmower with a small trailer, and my old 74 vw bug with a 6x8 trailer. Just saying, that pulling heavy loads with a light duty truck is usually more of a headache then its worth. I'm in the parts industry, and most of the guys I sell parts to, are always having to fix their trucks. A few of my customers who've I've told to get semi's and who did their own research, and eventually did, only call me for maintenance stuff, like oil and filters now. For profit and down time, you simply can't beat a semi. And the favorite among them is a freightliner with a Detroit diesel. Much cheaper parts, and cheaper to buy. You can buy a light duty dually in the $80k -$100k range, that'll last you maybe 200-300k before something major needs replacing, or a used freightliner with a rebuilt motor and trans for $50k-$60k that'll go for another 800-1mil miles before it needs something major. Yes insurance is a bit more and it it'll get a solid 6mpg vs 8mpg on a dually. But that's greatly offset by the loads you can carry, and the money you will make. 30k lbs to a semi is a light load. 40-50k is where they max out out with a standard tandem trailer.
And then I tune it with efi live, add a little timing, remove the post injection events and emissions systems and suddenly that 8mpg turns into 12 when towing and get 20mpg empty. When does the extra fuel burned, the pollution behind that as well as the mining for metals to create the catalyst systems outweigh the tail pipe output pollution? Guess what it doesn’t, that’s how our government works, only change what the public can see, not actually reduce pollution.
After I lost my Ford truck in the flood of Hurricane Harvey, I did some major research in regards to buying a 2500 diesel. I wanted a truck with enough HP to pull at fifth wheel camper later on.
The Dodge Ram 2500 Tradesman Cummins diesel with an 8ft bed is what I ended up getting. I couldn't he happier. The most I've pulled with it is a 31ft bumper pull camper. It runs like a dream.
You got a ram instead of a ford?? Ram trucks are literally garbage your going to do so much maintenance to it lmao replace 5 trannys. Or u could have bought a new ford with zero issues.
@@tylersutton7667 I have a 2011 Dodge 3500. I have had head gasket done at 346,000 miles & now is at 767,000 miles & I haul travel trailers for a living with it. No problems with my transmission yet. My biggest problem is how hot it gets pulling hills & if hot out I have to turn air conditioner off & put it in manual 5th gear pulling hill to help keep it from getting to hot.
Tyler Sutton Ford and zero issues? Quit blowing smoke ups your ass
@@tylersutton7667 with all the recalls Ford is having. No thanks buddy. I'll carry on with my Dodge.
@@BBBYpsi manual or automatic
Absolute shit, never buying a Ram with a Cummins, after they added all this DPF DEF ECU electronic bullshit, old school 12 valves, leaf spring, straight pipes, and 5 speed Nv4500, raw, and organic. Not this jazzed-up piss-injected with some aisin auto. Trucks are going to shit, Clessie Cummins, and the dodge brothers are rolling in their graves.
Thanks for showing the actual payload number for that specific truck. We’re looking at truck/truck camper combos and need to know real world info like that - not max payload from the manufacturer for a stripped down model. We would love to see it for new Chevy and Ford trucks featured on here too.
The new Chevys and GMCs have the payload weight on the door frame sticker.
I might buy Ram like this one , still cheaper than a house !
Just live in the back seat 😂
Your emergency brake away trailer clip is not connected right 8:45. Connecting to the chains is not going to activate it. DOT will get you for it
Yup, that would be an immediate out of service. you can hook it to the same location the chain is but not the chain or any part of that chain. Not a good mistake to make.
I didn't see any heavy duty trucks in this video. If you're referring to the Dodge you have - that'd be a light duty truck with a medium duty powerplant which means it's a light duty truck..........
I'm looking forward to you guys towing with 6.4 hemi and the 8 speed!
Never buy one
Cummins that 6.4 hemi is thirsty. Had one now I don't.
@@R.E.L.Asphalt_Sealcoating my dad has one went through a motor and a transmission..the motor and Bruce Jenner on them aren't in sync so they sit there and battle each other
I've had 4 of the 6.4 hemi rams 2 3500 single wheel and a 3500 dually as well as a 2500 air suspension in rear since they were introduced in 14 and I put 30 - 40 thousand a year they all towed well and 0 problems tranny or motor my current has the 4:10 rear gear and tows really well just towed from Indiana to north eastern n.y. little to no wind 9,000 pd trailer averaged 9.7 mpg on the trip running the speed limits on I 90. only gripe is the gearing in the tranny the eight speed should be a ton better we'll see.
Tyler Murphy me toooooo!
Ok. Now waiting for the Gauntlet
Why would you not include regen? You can't just ignore it, it's bound to happen some time.
Very nice trucks now but the Ford's 48 gallon fuel tank is much more applicable to towing.
Most ridiculous thing I ever saw If your hauling that you need a tractor with air brakes and same on the trailer it is stupid to go down the highway like that
No. It's not.
brakes and designs are so much better now. the old air drum brakes are worst then these.
Well you haven’t seen much if a brand new truck pulling less than it’s rated for is the most ridiculous thing you’ve ever seen
You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
These new trucks are a waste. My 07 5.9 gets 13.5mpg with combined weight of 32k lbs @70 mph and my 05 class 8 freightliner gets 7.5mpg loaded.
Love this channel! I'm a Ford guy but love seeing Ford, Ram, and Chevy. I would drive all those trucks in heart beat!! Keep up good work loving seeing American Trucks especially diesel ones!
I'm a chevy man...and i generally prefer the base work truck models. But, that is one beautiful piece of machinery. If i ever had more money than brains, I'd buy one.
I’m the same, love my 17’ Chevy 2500 duramax WT trim, but if I hit that lottery 😏😏
@@slybowtie2527 hey man you dont need all the extra luxury stuff these trucks have. As long as I have heat, I'm good
xinferis chief very true, they make the base models nice enough nowadays. Plus I like the vinyl floors and seats, don’t feel as bad when I get em dirty.
@@slybowtie2527 For sure. I'm looking at a 4500 Ram next week for my work truck and it doesn't have alot of creature comforts in it. Vinyl ftw!
xinferis chief you will love it! My company still uses our 1997 ram 12V cummins and she’s a champ. Ready to work whenever!
what does the 2020 tow? the 3500 gmc and chevy will tow 35k
GM hasn't been able to compete with Ram and Ford, when it comes to towing, for quite some time now
Breakaway cable was on the trailer chains.....yikes!
You have to include regen. For me, it lowers mileage by about 10% under normal conditions.
Lol Scotty is a quack.... and your 100% right. It's unavoidable in a truck that tows more than 98 miles ever in it's life.
Dodge spent a fortune shaving just 150 lbs off the truck so they're not going to change to a heavier fuel tank in the middle of a numbers war.
Dodge did nothing, RAM did.. Ram makes trucks, Dodge does not anymore.
@Roscoe Dogg nope.... these are new compared to when they were branded Dodge. RAM is different. Owned by FCA.
should be an option for a bigger fuel tank, he’ll my 2018 tundra has a 38 gal tank, anyway when my lease is up i will be going diesel.
$88,000 truck and they put the cheapest tires they can find on it...
shows what you know...tires in that weight class are very expensive
@@philtripe Yep! Those are good tires!
stickloaf
No they're not. Those very same tires are less than $180.
Mike H
Those tires suck for so many reasons that it's too time consuming to even begin to enumerate them.
Roscoe Dogg
There is an optional on/off road type tire listed on the order form but it's not called out by name.
$88k truck, it’s into the rich folks price range and excludes the “ working mans” truck which are the people who buy them. I don’t know many avg. Joe’s who can drop $80-90k on any vehicle.
Most cant afford any of these new trucks. Even the ranger is too expensive
Yea i wish but even stripping it down to just essentials 4x4 best motor trans combo upgraded suspension its still more than i can afford new. Guess ill just have to keep buying used and repairing myself.
@@Choppingwood83 Most people aren't towing that much as a hobby. This truck is usually a business expense.
@@dchawk81 agreed!
Damn I wish they would get rid of Nexen tires and go with a better brand by now!
so true those tires are junk. I hate Ford however at least they do put a nice set of Michelins on from the factory for your $80k purchase
@Roscoe Dogg honestly I've ran Chinese tires before and they're better than these Nexen tires.
@Roscoe Dogg the original set that came with my truck started pitting within 500 miles. Took truck to dealer and they said keep driving til oil change comes up. Went in for oil change dealership changed all tires. 2nd set doing better but truck still rides like crap. Can't wait til they wear out so I can get my Cooper's.
Why anyone would use a pickup truck to pull 30k + pounds is beyond me. I bet that in a lot of states you need a CDL to do that. Why not just get a real truck for that kind of work? Plus you get the added safety benefit of air brakes. I pull a gooseneck for a living with a 2018 hd pickup truck and there is no way I would pull a heavy load like that without air brakes no matter what brand of pickup. For the 200k$ it costs for the setup shown in this video, you can get a pretty decent tractor/trailer setup and still have a bit of money left for a car for when you don’t work. Of course you won’t be able to pump up your chest and win pissing contests but if you need to buy one of these pickups to feel like a man you have other issues. It seems nowadays that torque ratings and towing capacity numbers that manufacturers rate their pickups are inversely proportionate to their buyers’ penis size.
Actually the first thing I bought was an Atlas 55 gallon midship fuel tank.
AmarilloHorseSports
Lol
Toyota fan boys been real silent, leave the big guns for the Americans.
So the fuel used for burn off isn’t counted?! Does the owner get that for free? Isn’t this a “real world review “. maybe things are drastically different in Colorado. Too much smoking!
We didn’t count it so we can compare to other HD truck we will be testing soon.
That rig is not even legal here in alabama without a cdl. 40 feet total combined length.
This way they can standardize all their tests on all the trucks. If they had a burn-off halfway through it would skew the numbers so if the Chevy or Ford do the run without a burn off during the test they would be artificially high compared to the Ram that did the burn off.
While you have to factor that into your cost of hauling a trailer this is just to start a comparison between the trucks on even footing.
The Fast Lane Truck
Should've shown both with and without a Regen. Then do the same for the other 2 trucks later.
@@TFLtruck if it does do a regen and the fords or chevys do not you have to count dodge's regen. It happened and will happen to anyone that uses that truck. I get the idea of a fair comparison but, it happened so you should count it
I would bet you get 10+ mpg if you drove 65mph, instead of 70.
Yup
Doubtful, at 55-60 yes. I have 2 2016 Rams hauling the same weight 5 days a week and unless you stay under 60MPH you're not going to see much improvement
I bet you get 7 mpg instead of 8.7 if you go 75. Your point?
I get 6.5 - 8 in my Ram 4500 and F450 and 9-10 in the 3500. All my trucks are 2016's
@@knurlgnar24 don't be so critical of the mpg if you dont want to test it at the speed that will you give you the best mpg.
2005 5.9 3500 (SRW) 17,000 pounds total weight 14.4 @60 mpg on mostly flat interstate travel.
It's amazing how far trucks have come, to have this much more power and this much more truck and still get the fuel mileage of an old non emissions truck is crazy.
The differene between 60 and 70mph for fuel economy for towing is enormous.
@@Dexter_Solid Very true! My '04 F250 V10 gets around 16.5 pulling a 5k trailer at 65, that drops to under 15 at 75.
Cummins all the way...
Great engine, shit truck
For a truck this size and with all the bells and whistles, I think under $90k is a decent price. But they should really make larger fuel tanks on these heavy duty trucks.
Anon Anon people who need the capacity can just buy an in-bed tank. Easy to add an extra 50 gal.
Can't wait to see the new Chevy and Ford doing the same weights and runs.
This Ram tows more than both at this range
Joel Repass
You're reporting facts not yet in evidence.
@@joelrepass2379 Isn't the max towing for both GM and Ford higher than Ram now?
RSD N/A The 3500s tow more now as they used to. The 1500s are very close to what Ford and Chevy claim but if you go on their websites and spec out a truck with the most power the Ram tows more.
Joel Repass
The numbers for the new Super Duty haven't been released yet.
@5:20 yes, I think I would recognize that as a RAM truck, lol
Just can't get behind these new rams. I mean looks wise anyways. The cummins is great obviously.
Love the headlights. Reminds me of the 2nd gen styling
I must agree. After watching this video, my wife and I purchased a 2019 Ram 3500 Tradesman from Bayway, Chrysler, Jeep, Ram in Pasadena, Tx 12/19/2019. Never knew how strong these trucks were. Thanks TFL
I agree with you about the larger fuel tank. 32 gallons just isn't enough to a long haul.
Auxiliary fuel tanks are sold for just that reason. Adding an extra 50 gal is easy.
Exactly. Considering that Ford comes with 48 gallon tank, Ram could've put larger tank in there.
@@ShersGarage remember though that even the Ford tiers it's fuel tanks to cab size. The max tow Regular Cabs still only have a 29 gal tank, Super Cabs have a 34 gal tank and only the Crew Cab with 8' box has the 48 gal tank size.
@@ShersGarage GMC/Chevy have a 36 gallon tank.
@@ALMX5DP true. Most people will be buying crew cab F-350 or F-450 to tow a big rig. That's what Ford sells the most.
This truck can tow 50k guaranteed. Yea it get the whole legality thing. But if your ever in need this bad boy will haul that 50k and not break a sweat.
News that matter are Dodges reliable my father has a 2008 Dodge GrandCaravan SXT with 80,000 miles and firestone said it needs a new engine and I really want a Dodge Charger
1 thousand
2 thousand
redline
Wright Marshall
It can live at red line. What's your engine do at red line?
If you're not factoring in regen cycles, this test is worthless.
What happens when they test the others and it doesn't go thru a Regen? Say the Ford doesn't and Chevy and ram do.... Fair test.
@@bryane2857 Make the tests longer. The idea is to have at least one full cycle. XXX number of miles per regen at highway speeds is one cycle.
For anybody wondering about the cost-benefit of a pickup vs a medium or heavy duty truck, that's better than my work truck gets.
I drive a 20' reefer truck with a 33k gvwr every day. I'm not usually maxed out every day, and I get 7-8 mpg.
This rig was rolling at 36k+ gcwr.
true and most tractor trailers are getting 5-7 mpg at 80k which is crazy! IMO
Good point. What engine and trans does your truck use? I guess the only benefit to a diesel pickup is being able to park in parking lots(duallys are tougher), hauling smaller loads, the crew cab, traveling unloaded, and the 4x4. Crew cab and 4x4 is possible but a big expensive deal on a medium size freightliner or international..... and a medium truck gets worse mpg than a diesel pickup when driving around unloaded. I think these guys who hotshot heavy loads most of the time may be better off with a medium truck lol
@@technicalitems731 I don't know. It's an old Mitsubishi cabover that I hate. I used to drive an old Sterling that we've affectionately dubbed the "War Wagon", but the reefer took a dump on me last month, so they put me in this piece of junk.
Our fleet mechanic said we're getting some new Freightliners to replace a couple of these old cabovers, and they cannot come soon enough.
I just bought a new Peterbilt single axle 33k with the 9L engine and 10speed it cost less than this truck (well till the dump bed was added)
Long term the med duty trucks are the better investment. They’ll do it everyday all day without a hiccup.
Luke Diehl
The thing to remember is this setup may be heavier than you but it's more aerodynamic than pushing 2 4x8 sheets of plywood down the road.
Tons of questions regarding fuel tank sizes. I too question why such small fuel tanks in trucks that are supposedly built to haul and tow, not cruise around town to the mall and walmart. I wasn't exactly pleased that my 2008 Toyota Tundra had a 26 gallon fuel tank but my 1999 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4 had a 33 gallon tank....and the 26 gallon tank in my tundra was only 3 gallons larger than the stock tank in my 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee....would the reason to have smaller tanks due to safety maybe? Less fuel to spill in an accident? That's the only dang thing I could think of other than thinking they're going to save enormous weight by chopping off the fuel tank when they dang things are already cheap ass plastic to begin with. A definite answer from the automakers would really be great, as I'm sure others want to know the real reason too.
They had to make room for the DEF tank (about 6 gallons worth), and there are more crossmembers to deal with on the frame as well. Add to that the enormous exhaust system with particulate filters, resonators, and huge mufflers to keep noise down....There just ain't a whole lot of room under there. A Ford Superduty can still be had with a 48-gallon tank though...
@@yetisdeuce1315 They could have left out that nonsense DEF crap, none of that stuff does any bit of good....ok well the mechanics love them when that emissions crap fails rendering the vehicle completely useless, but the rest of us don't need or want it...notice no government ordered service vehicles that the people in congress use have any of that crap....there's a huge reason behind it...reliability.
Exactly!
Gets better mpg than a normal 1500 with the Hemi.haha
of course its a diesel and thats why heavy equipments always have diesel engines thats normal
@@carholic-sz3qv What the hell are you talking about?
@@saucemaster2 diesel has a higher energy density than gas so it will get better mileage
Of course it does diesel is a more efficient motor
@@saucemaster2 my freightliner cascadia on empty weight of 36,000lbs can hit 10mpg lol. Gas can't do that.
Great looking truck! I love my 2015 Ram 2500 with the 6.7 Cummins
Im wondering about night hauling with trucks rigged to the max towing capacity like this test. If I'm not mistaken this ram has air ride suspension, rig without that feature would have a considerable squat, which would put the projection of the headlights upward. Then if you add bad weather like snow and mountains, now you're talking major pucker factor.
Just like an 18 wheeler, you park it when you're not comfortable.
@@dchawk81 wonderful idea, all the truckers in the ditch in a blizzard wish they would have thought of it, lol. Hard money jobs and schedules sometimes get in the way of wise decisions.
I drive an 18 wheeler. Park it when it's not safe.
@@dchawk81 wonderful, if only everyone would do that.
Love all the reviews and the channels. 32 gallon tank! My dads 03 Chevy suburban has a 36 gallon
You guys must be the reason
Truck Trend magazine isn't around anymore
Still around.
I get it in the mail every other month.
Can’t get enough of the TFL videos. Great job guys. Thank you for real world testing.
I get 8mpg pulling my 6200# boat+trailer. Imagine my 22.5 gallon tanks range!
I get 5 mpg towing 32,000 lbs in my 2016 3500. Tank lasted about 200 miles before I added an 80 gallon in the bed.
Strixx Considering you’re pulling 5x my load I’d be happy with 5mpg! You probably wouldn’t notice 6k pounds.
Amazing vehicle. RAM continues to lay the smackdown on the rest.
Couple things though:
- The configurable menu was available on the 4th gen deluxe models
- The exhaust brake measurement was available on the 4th gen deluxe models (you just have to select it in the configurable menu).
- The automatic bed lowering was available on 4th gen. Same goes for backup and trailer cameras.
Dodge is the shit, a pickup hauling 30K. That's badass, and you can park it in your driveway. Great info TFL team!
That's why I hope to get a 4th gen 5500, it's roughly the same size as your typical dually and you can carry more weight than a regular 1 ton
2020 gms will tow 35k
@@nomercyinc6783 what model though?
CheekyKnob Sierra 3500 hd
I never understood why so much wood and leather in the cabin, I want my trucks to be work vehicles that can tow. I don’t want comfort I want more towing and better mpg
Get the tradesman with HO/Aisin upgrade and premium towing package for about $25k less
If I owned this truck I would immediately put a a sticker on the top of the oil dip stick that says “pull to start”. Lol
Why?
Look at the engine in min 2:35 , the dipstick looks like a pullstart on a small engine
Ford Trucks are the best but second is Dodge.... stay away from GM Garbage.
Todd bob why? You gave zero reasons.
I like the way the new Chevys look and no one should claim that the Dodge is better...especially with the dodge track record.
mtrujillo1973 I agree completely. Brand loyalty is dumb.
That new gauge cluster is terrific! It's great you can specify what you want for the small gauges as well as the main display. :)
Amazing, big truck- very nice! The Hot Shot guys would love this, I'd think. (Except for the fuel tank size. Have to add an extra tank in the truck bed, probably.)
jedironin380 I have that, minus diesel, in my 13 Hemi
The numbers you called out for power on that truck are even with a semi. Mine has 450 ho and 1200ftpnd of torque.
I just got my special order Ram 3500 Limited (MSRP) $90,120. I have a Titan 51 gallon fuel tank on order as I agree with you guys regarding the size of the stock tank. I have been a Ford guy all my life and this is the first Ram for me; I absolutely love this truck!
Looks like a damn train! These trucks are huge now.
Notice how it has a good old Japanese Aisin transmission! Not a 8 or 10 speed POS unit. You know what else has a Aisin 6spd? The Toyota Tundra.
And a Nissan Titan XD with the Cummins 5.0 liter.
didnt know that,
they are good transmissions tho
That’s an interesting mpg on that truck. I have have a 2024 Ram dually and I have a bumper pull that weighs about 9,000 lbs and I average around 9.5 mpg. I’m driving 65-70 mph in Texas.
Should do 2018 Vs 2019 Rams up the IKE
If you are getting 8.7mpg and rolling along at 70mph you would probably be stopping about every 3 and 1/2 hours or about 250 miles; because you won't use up all 32 gallons. Which depending on other passengers, kids, or pets is likely how often you would need to stop so they can use the bathroom anyways.
Can't make money that way if you're hot-shotting. Remember, most of these trucks are used for commercial purposes.
Shouldn't be driving that 70mph. Your stopping distance increases immensely
Compare to a, 2019, highway 18 wheeler at GVW of 80,000 lbs, and see which one gets the best mpg per lb.
My 2015 get 6.2 to 7 at 78k
@@sketchyssk8shop That's what I was getting at. Then the Ram should at less than half the weight, should get twice what you get. I think they got less than 10 mpg. Could it be the government has something to do with the disparity in mpg's between light duty and heavy duty class 8 trucks?
Whew that water bill tho!
What water bill. Mr truck has a well
These are all fine and dandy videos and i really enjoy watching them. But I wanna know what my truck does stats wise after 150,000 miles. Im pretty sure all these new trucks are so similar in stats that they are almost identical, I wanna see what they look like 4 years down the line. Would my 2015 KingRanch F-350 compare now to when you guys did the Ike when it was new? What brand holds the test of time? When looking at a new truck, I wanna know what is going to last when I'm spending $100,000+.... Yes I know there are variables and whatnot to take into consideration for older vehicles, but in general.. How do they hold up?
These trucks have a couple of gear ratio options and that will make a big difference in MPG. Which gears did this truck have in it ?
Thank's for the info. They should
Get better mpg. A semi truck loaded is not a lot of difference on feul.
Semi has double the gears too.
Would be sweet with a 10 speed with a splittrt
They put in a smaller tank so they can make larger payload numbers. By putting in a larger tank takes away payload capacity.
To pull big loads I get it but with my 2019 Silverado I went from LA to Tucson AZ loaded with 11,500 pounds and made it with 1/8 tank to spare. I love diesel but I see less and less point in them now unless it's a huge load.
With the diesel emissions crap, add in the initial additional cost of getting the diesel engine, additional maintenance and repair costs, DEF, etc. they're far from worth it anymore unless all you do is tow heavily every day for long distances, then you may break even but for the rest of us out there that just head up to the hills camping and hunting a few weekends a month its not even close to worth the additional costs associated with owning a diesel....add to that the ridiculously over-inflated fuel prices for diesel fuel.
@@wildbill23c If you tow over the continental divide every other week you wouldn't even compare the two. Big difference at 12k elevation! No gassers insight pulling much weight up there!
Let's see what motor lasts longer pulling those weights
@@handtohandcombat3535 With the way people are today skipping maintenance neither would last very long LOL. $90k truck, ehh the $200 oil change is just too expensive.
@@wildbill23c
200.00 oil change? Maybe if you can't change your own oil.
Ok Mr truck you just going to show off your nice watch
Question for TFL. Wow 50 feet and the truck has 30,000 of the 80, 000lbs limit I've seen probably from Federal motor carriers. My buddy used to drive containers from the port that maxed at 55 feet and 80,000 lbs before he needed permits. What's the benefit of using a full size pickup over a semi-tractor trailer?
I feel like these task push the trucks to their performance limits in everyway. For a follow-up questions, does the cost-to-own numbers back up a full size truck carrying heavy near-limit loads over a semi-tractor trailer doing the same job when consider the overhead of wear and tear? You can even considered used semis. My buddy got a decent Peterbuilt for 70k in 2009 money. Port emissions put him out of business which may be important to consider in these questions.
Thanks for your hard work guys.
John
At least in this case, hauling a horse trailer, perhaps the benefit of using a full-size pickup over a semi-tractor trailer would be the extra versatility of the pickup. If the horse owner is only occasionally taking the animals to shows or auctions, the pickup when not hauling that huge trailer can be used for countless other things, whereas the semi would be captive only to that horse trailer task.
@Nathan Gregory agreed love semi's but with a pickup when you aren't working or hauling you can still cruise around town and use it as a normal pickup truck.
***Pick up trucks have more than one use***
Question to anyone,,,,,,HELP,,,,,,,I have a 2017 Ram DRW 6.7 diesel with the Aisin transmission and can’t seem to find what is normal transmission temperature and what is dangerous.
Best channel ever on UA-cam 😊💯
I want one, but I have a stock 38 gallon fuel tank in my 16 Tundra. Wtf, this truck should have 75gal.
A truck that worth that much with nexen tires 🤦🏻♂️
kenvini Kenvini it’s not worth that much,suckers are willing to pay it so they charge that. 😂
your gonna be in REAL trouble when the cop pulls out the portable scales!!!! your a little *OVERWEIGHT* son, ... ouch!
let me see your ...
commercial drivers licence &
d.o.t. physical card &
electronic drivers logs &
ifta fuel sticker &
tax i.d. number
proof of commercial insurance
oh, you don't have ANY of that ...?? well NO problem! we'll call the local towing company and drag your whole rig to the more expensive IMPOUND lot we can find!
how that 30k working out now? LMFAO
leave the heavy loads for the semi's they have the suspension and BRAKES to handle them!!
This is one of the few times I've seen a Ram with the tow mirrors out actually towing. What is it with Ram owners always driving with the tow mirrors out?
The tow mirrors have huge blind spots if you close them. That’s why people leave them open even when empty. It’s a stupid design and people do get into accidents with the mirrors closed simply based on massive blind spots.
Ram has one of the worst designs in tow mirrors. When they're out they're useful when they in which is rare they're useless and look horrible. Bad design.
I have no problems with my mirrors folded in. They are the best looking and simplest bar far for towing as well.
The blind spot is horrible when they’re in 😳
We actually use our trucks for work.
@9:24 So, at max trailer weight you're only allowed 16% tongue weight? I could be wrong, but isn't that kinda light for a gooseneck? Might be safer to say the max trailer weight is 26K pounds? That would at least get you a 20% tongue weight and still be legal...
Amazing truck. But 250 miles of range loaded. I'd opt for a slightly used Freightliner class 8 tractor with a sleeper.