Been a truck mechanic for over 35 years, scania engines are very good motors, i've worked on them in the uk for many years, and for them for 4 years previously, the options you have here are enormous, good choice, seriously, good choice.
2 for one. Boost Scania awareness, and get diesel-electric rigs out the door as fast as possible. Reach out to Scania corporate and ask for discounts as help in developing this market niche!
Yes but scania v8 i think is the best engine of all trucks, they have torque ,power,sound,reability , i now to euro 5 first model do 1000000 km without problem
20yrs as a diesel mechanic in australia and Scania motors are 1 of the best for putting up with our brutal conditions thanks to being simple motors. There 16ltr V8's are a good old fashion push rod V8, unit injectors, no dpf's and having individuals heads means iv done many, many many single cylinder rebuilds on them. They are so tough that you can remove the piston and conrod from 1 cylinder and have it keep runnings on 7, with a load, back to the workshop hundreds of kilometres away, iv had to do that twice in the out back😂.
copy that. over hear in aussie myself. done it all from jap, american and euro and scania by far seams to up there if not at the top. there engines are easy to work on and durable.
I'm a retired truck driver and car enthusiasts, these guys are building the ultimate truck. Scania are very powerful engines, I just wished that I had a opportunity to drive one when I was younger.
I would.. but unfortnatly my company are owned by an investment group.. so when our cheap nasty renaults go in a few month. it will be whatever is cheapest... probably more renaults.... though a gas iveco demo has turned up..... and i want that even less
@@Guds777 it will be the cheapest one for sure. whatever that will be when they remember to actually do a deal.. still don't think its been done. though I hear renault have goten more expensive
Of all all the Euro trucks I ever got to drive - I like the Renault Magnum the best! Biggest, most open cabin, on top of all the traffic, big power (back in the early '90s). After the Magnum I did NOT like the Scania - it felt like you can't see anything....
I'm in northern Europe and my cousin drives a gravel truck and trailer. He first drove a Mercedez-Benz, then he switched to a Volvo FH13, had that one for a year and then came to his senses and now he drives a Scania R730 with a total weight for truck + trailer + load is 76000kg
I'm just an old guy that likes trucks, machinery and powerful engines. I've never heard of Scania before seeing this video. You've got yourself a new subscriber due to interesting content, no excessive talking and no stupid music. Looking forward to seeing the installation of this motor.
Scania is a gold standard for Europe but there lies the problem with those motors, in my experience, these motors have to be treated like the EU regulations 9 driving hours per day max, (they include loading and unloading time in this) 56 per week or 90 in two, MUST take a break every 4 to 5 hours with the truck not moving even if there is another driver for at least 30 minutes MUST take 45 continuous hours of rest after 6 days of driving
I worked for Scania in New Zealand, by far the best company I have ever worked for. I would still be working for them if I hadn't moved here to Oilberta Cananada. If you're considering a V8 engine for your vehicles, please note that the exhaust manifold bolts and turbo mounting bolts often come loose from extreme heat cycles and being down between the frame rails. I don't know if this will be an issue for you, but it is something to note with your designs.
What a great news! Bruce Wilson recently revealed that he in collaboration with Scania is bringing their 770R truck to USA for testing and promotional purposes,and now you announce your thing. Interesting times.👍
Hahahaha, I guess all these young kids want to relive the misery of driving/living in a cabover truck for weeks and weeks! I did my time in Cabovers, never ever again!
@@brownh2orat211 I take it you've never driven a Scania before. When overtaking them on the highway, you can see the cab is "separate" from the chassis suspension wise the way they ride, so they're not like the old kidney/bone shakers you would've been used to.
saw bruce vid too. but I want to say that you can find many other EU Truck production lines on You Tube like MAN, Mercedes Benz, and more. have a nice day with best regards from Germany
@@Schmokkie1984 Australian here. We get every kind of truck here. EU Cabovers (Scania, MAN, DAF, Mercedes, Volvo, Renault, IVECO...), American 'Long-nose' (Mack, Kenworth, Peterbuilt, International/Western Star) - We Also have Kenworth Cabovers and not just old ones, we produce them locally for the local market.
2:45 that's only partially true, 40 or 44 tonnes is a max weight for most of the continental EU, however in the Nordics we can haul way more than that, in Sweden - home of the Scania we can haul up to 64 tonnes with truck and trailer combos of up to 25.25 meters, and after the latest transport regulations revisions, up to 74 tonnes and 34.5 meters in length on selected roads. That's where the 770 comes to shine ;)
The USA has permits to go over 40 ton. My company has many straight truck and trailer that hall 64 ton. One of our transport drivers said the max he's hauled with his X15 powered tractor is 128 ton. You just have to get permits and have the length and number of axles to spread that weight out to legal limits.
This is the sort of negativity you can expect from those who don't know about Scania! They will just have to be educated about how good these engines are. Bruce Wilson down in the States has been working with Scania for some time now, and has shown the Scania trucks to some "typical" American truckers, general opinion was, they are years ahead of us in America. They will take a lot to convince, BUT, when they see and hear these engines, they will melt! They sound so good and perform so much better than the stuff they are used to. They will have to learn not everything made outside their region is NOT BAD, it's really BETTER than they are used to. Chase, this is the engine I've hoped you will use rather than some Chinese stuff that they say will provide the back-up you want/need. With Scania, you will get everything you expect and more. If you want hand holding through the process, Scania will be there!!!!!!!!!! Yes I love Scania, I love most things Swedish, but Scania has been on my personal radar since 1971. They are a premier company to work for and work with. Glad you've teamed up with someone, who will truly support the whole process. WELL DONE team Edison!!!!!! From UK.
In the interest of fairness I scrolled and read at least 30 comments below this and have yet to see a single negative thing said about Scania. I also can’t name a single trucker in North America that wouldn’t give their left nut to have a Scania. I’ve always said the day I have to run a new truck on an elog is my last day trucking over the road. That will no longer be true if 770hp V8 Scanias are on the table. 😂
30 year trucker here Scania is the best. I'm in the US. My work truck is Volvo, my personal vehicles is Volvo and Saab. Been driving Swedish from a teenager back in 1985. I wish Scania truckers were mainstream in the US.
To be honest, I was happy to see CAT so front and center as the first engine. I thought this would help them recognize their importance to NA manufacturing. Because they put profit over quality and developing relationships with the small guys, they lost out on this amazing opportunity and partnership. Frankley, with how they've treated their NA workforce in the past few years, I am happy Scandia won out. I still think Edison Motors has the right philosophy and approach to be one of those long-lasting great companies!
Just like the chicken tax helped enable crap "light trucks" to be the standard in the US for so long blind loyalty to NA products that are worse than the competition doesn't encourage NA companies to make competitive products. I'm all for supporting domestic manufacturing, but I'm against propping up bad products and or bad companies because they're in NA.
This is so cool. Bruce Wilson Trucking is actually showing a Scania that's being built for the North American market. He will be bringing it to Tennessee and showcasing the truck to hopefully open the market to them!!! You two guys are really helping Scania gain a foothold and that's awesome. Great video!!
As a swede this makes me happy and a bit proud even though I had nothing to do with the deal. My personal experience is that Swedish companies (even the really large ones) feels less "corporate" than many other international counterparts. You are often allowed to speak to engineers and service personal if needed without having to go through layers upon layers of management.
In other words they haven't lost their humanity. Unlike most major US corporation. I'll take the European touch anytime. I'm Canadian partly raised in Paris as a mil. brat (R.C.A.F. SHAPE HQ) and I've considered France my second home country ever since. In general Europe is more sane than North America. Their work ethic and product quality generally reflect that.
@@i-love-comountains3850 Aye there will be extra costs/longer repair times. Sure if you were in around Edmonton or Vancouver it probably would not be an issue. And no I'm not talking about parts, but the mechanic to change that part out. However out in the middle of the BC mountains? lol gl with that. There are Cummins/CAT shops scattered through the BC mountains because of logging and mining, with lots of mobile mechanics to service the area. I love the idea of Scania engines being used, but there WILL be added costs to operators for that decision and will alienate clientele you would have had if you used one of the other two due to mechanic availability and fleet mechanics already trained in how to fix what they have. Its a really risky move, with some benefit but id say more downsides.
I love seeing more Scania engine in the US, I’ve been working with them for years in Hyundai equipment and by far they have held up better than Cummins and CAT engines. And parts availability I have found to be better than either also. I think you guys made an excellent choice going with Scania.
We run a 2013 Scania R500 V8 with close to one million km on it. Fuel efficient and reliable! We tuned it to around 600hp. It is just simply awesome!👌👌
Good morning from the sunny south Okanagan, thanks for the update. I grew up on a Saskatchewan farm where in the '70's we ran mostly Case tractors with the Scania diesels, as well as some Massey with Perkins and Versatile with Cummins. While I loved the Versatile with it's Cummins, the Scania Cases were very trouble free and efficient even back then. All the best to you all this Labour Day weekend.
And a great sounding one at that, removing the muffler and replacing it with an extra long (like 12meter) exhaust pipe tend to have V8 Scanias absolutely singing
I find it funny how people in north america forget mexico is in north america and forget that scania trucks are already on the road in mexico with the v8s canda and the usa are way behind
Eff kroger for their new multi-billion dollar merger. They're about to be a monopoly and admitted in court that they deliberately hiked prices on essentials during the pandemic. I say again, f u c k kroger.
That was the reason Cummins went from 5.9L to 6.7L for Ram. Reason being diesel engines operate at low enough rpm that thermal energy from combustion has time to soak into the cylinder walls. Increasing the cylinder volume per surface area ratio keeps more of the heat in the cylinder and also reduces demand on the cooling system
@@Evildaddy911honestly the 6.7 is so close to the 5.9 it just has more fuel flow. You can turn a late 5.9 up conservatively and get the same performance as a 6.7 without all the emissions.
I'm 42, American Trucker, been a fan of Scania since my mom got us the Internet when I was a teen and seen pics of the 143. Been hooked every since. Scania trucks and motors just look like pieces of art I had no idea so many things here in North America had Scania motors. I've heard some boats do but not the other things mentioned. I really wish Scania would offer the R & S series here. I'd buy one in a heartbeat. Wish Kenworth & Peterbilt would offer the Scania motor range but, that won't happen since PACCAR owns Kenny & Peter 😂. We need Scania Trucks here 🇺🇸 🇺🇲 and 🇨🇦 🍁
Supposedly Bruce Wilson is looking to bring over Modern Scania's so your dream may come true. Or at worse just gotta wait for Edison to start making some lol.
We would love to see this in the Kenworth and Peterbilt as well. Been hauling trees and logs with the mx 13... What a pos engine... The DPF has endless problems and the only one I've seen that runs half way descent is a deleted one and still just can't run with the big dogs...
I believe Scania is looking at beginning to sell trucks in the US now. Initially, in lower volumes, made in Europe (and taking the loss) to test the market, but as soon as the volumes pick up they'll no doubt set up a manufacturing plant in America. Scania is now part of Traton, which is owned by VW and ultimately by Porsche. Navistar is also part of the group.
@@RobertClaeson At work I've been seeing an International with the Scania logo on it, saying it's equipped with the engine from them. Pretty interesting. And certainly will help any worries about Scania engines not being common in North America. Shame they got rid of the Lonestar this year, such a good looking truck.
@@alexstromberg7696regen my truck when needed.. inbetween all the sensors and bs engineering and filters id take a scania any day. My truck at work has 69k on it has already had the whole dpf system replaced.. thing does a regen almost everyday still ffs.
Here in Australia Scania trucks are pulling 4 trailer 200 ton road trains and they are killing it. Very popular in big fleets in long haul road train work. Perfect choice to repower your rig.
That is so awesome, in Sweden we are limited to 2 trailers for a road train (used to be more before the 80's or so), and you cannot use the longest trailers for those, there is a maximum total length and a maximum individual trailer length, but hey, most of Europe actually only allow a single trailer on their roads, so we are luckier than them at least.
Over 40 years ago my Dad was a company director and they changed trucks at the milk company to Scania. About 20 units. They had the longest haul in NZ, about 260km round trip, farm to factory. They transport cost per pound of dairy fat was the third lowest in the country. Haulage was around twice at far as next company. Scania are great power trains.
Here in Sweden we have an 850 hp truck somewhere I've seen. With an off the shelf 850 hp engine. That’s one of their marine engines. If you don't settle with off the shelf you can get a lot more.
Emissions regulations and fuel consumption are what's limiting the power. You can get more power but the fuel consumption will just skyrocket. If you can afford a motorboat with multiple 1150 hp engines then the fuel cost isn't a big problem.
As a Swede: Hell yeah, great choice! Scania and Volvo are both fantastic, and every time I've had the misfortune of having to drive a MAN or Mercedes I have to resist the urge to ditch the fucking thing in a lake.
We have 5 Scania engines at work. Awesome engines, easy better than Caterpillar. Here in Ohio dealer support is good, almost as good as Cat, but not needed nearly as much.
They're repowering the fast catamaran fleet up here in Sitka with Scanias. Quad v-8's in each boat, 3600 total horsepower. I was involved with fitting the first set last winter. Nice engines.
In Aus they haul 220+ ton road trains, worked in a roadhouse, thousand clicks from the nearest part store, scania trucks, because its 3453km each way and 1000 km to a parts store,
Ya know..... It's just nice fimally seeing local business in automotive/ diesel being promoted within Canada, maybe for the first time in my lifetime. The Scania might be a European engine but as someone that lived in Red Deer from 09 until a few months ago seeing business in manufacturing more and more around as a mechanic myself, this is really cool. These may become the ultimate truck for truckers in North America and outward. The jumps in progress you guys are having is really special.
Crazy just yesterday I watched a video of a boat that had a Hybrid Powerplant just like you guys with twin Scania Engines making combined 3000hp! And I couldn't avoid remembering you guys.. And boom! This video comes out same engines.
I have just found your channel and happy to see another small company in North America going for Scania , you won't regret it . I'm a retired UK truck driver and had the good fortune to land a job in 1996 driving a Brand New Model 124 360hp 4x2 Sleeper Cab Scania 38 Tonne GVW that had just come out , it was a completely new model including the Engine with an 8 speed splitter box = 16 speed .Cab comfort was excellent and had a night heater that ran on Diesel . Before that I had driven older Scanias and all were good.
Please continue this work! I am dreaming of a day when any vehicle can have a retrofit to electric drive. I have a 33 year old Toyota pickup, would love to drive it the rest of my life, on electricity. Your work is the best progressive steps to making that happen!❤
I am so excited for your business venture with Scania. So excited, in fact, that I had to tell my wife all about it. I was met with a, “That’s nice dear.” No such higher praise! I love the transparency and following along in this adventure. All the best! I’m proud of you and your team.
Is Topsy going to be powered by a 9.0L Scania engine just like the CAT. It would seem like tremendous overkill to put the 770hp 16L engine in Topsy just to run the generator.
Would it be overkill? Yes Will I still make a hybrid with a V8 anyways? Also yes. We can get 1200kw peak out of batteries + 500kw out of the V8 That’s 1700KW, or about 2400 HP I don’t need it, but I want it
Look at it this way, with a larger engine on this thing, you have a portable generator that is more than capable of powering the worksite and recharge the batteries in addition to maybe charging another smaller electric vehicle.
@@EdisonMotors Mr Artelle raises a good point, this thing could charge BEVs that convey workers to the worksite and all the lights and saws and things in construction.
i love v8 gasoline turbo engines more than diesel because i love convertibles/miatas and i would prefer to not be next to expensive rolling coal diesels in occasional traffic. Thank you so much for partnering Edison Motors with ICE European engines!
Glad to see Todd from Precision is at Collicutt. I used to snub for Precision back in the day, before they got the Scania engines. Regen was always a safety concern for us. Glad to see Scania solved that. So, can you buy a Scania engine through Collicutt as a replacement for any highway truck? I'm thinking older trucks with mechanical engines. What electronics can they compensate for if you have an older project truck?
Honestly, with limited experience on Euro diesels, the experiences I’ve had have always been positive. Designs are there to perform a function, space is used efficiently to house components, and most things are done in such a way to make servicing convenient. They’re usually ahead of the game by more than just emissions.
You should mention to SCANIA, that they might look into the possibility of using the massive amount of electricity, you have available, to increase emission efficiency in the future as standards get stricter and stricter. I would imagine the engineers may not have thought about a situation where a Diesel engine would have that kind of electrical power available. It *might* be useful.
I’m not going to lie, Chase your seal of approval on Scania is probably the best advertisement they could have in North America! I’m curious to see how things look after a half million miles of use in your specific application. Due to the torque loads you are going to be running and the reliability of the duty cycle it will be interesting to see what kind of “mileage” you end up getting from the motor compared to a non hybrid drive assembly. Please keep us updated on all the details. ❤
Mr Scania rep is talking about Tier IV final, which is an off-road/ag certification with a much looser standard than on-highway. This does not cross with EPA24 (on-highway), and especially the upcoming EPA27. Are you sure Mr. government is going to go along with this?
Now this I amazing drove lots of Scania in Europe never had any problems running lots of miles. Moved to Canada and i broke down more times in two weeks then I ever done in the 20 years in Europe. Trucks here are tearing its guts out to put loads if you ran a American truck in Europe you would be broke in a month so heavy on fuel. Good job guys hope you put lots of up dates on this engine 👍
My experience is mainly marine applications and they are just really good engines. And they are dirt cheap. Not only are they used in powerboats up to 1500hp, lasting for thousands of hours. They are extremely popular as bow thrusters, and they can handle the sudden power demand bow thrusters need to deliver very well. Better than most. They are also becoming more and more popular in offshore where a whole bunch of Scania gensets replaces a couple of high power generators. They are up there with the best in efficiency, a number of smaller engines (small is a Scania v8 in this application) is more flexible so you don’t have to run a too large engine at low load. And they last for 60k hours pretty reliably. After that the engine gets thrown out and a new engine gets put in costing a measly 50k. It costs a little more installation effort but a lot less heavy maintenance. They are throw away items, but high quality. They are cheaper, more efficient and at least as reliable up to 60k hours as a comparable caterpillar. And they run much smoother and quieter which is nice for the crew.
Random Fact: Volvo, Scania’s biggest competitor in the European truck market only exists because Scania decided to stop making cars, and some engineers form SKF bearings decided they would build Swedish cars for Swedish people.
What do you talk about 😂😂😂 Scania never built cars, Saab did and where two separate companys under the same company.. Its like doing parallels between why Lamborghini build their tractors a certain way based on why audi TT sells bad 😂😂
Volvo actually took control of Scania for a brief period till they were forced to sell the shares (dominant market position in a few countries like the Baltic States).Incidentally, Volvo sold their car division to a chinese company.
I am delighted to see how well you are doing with Edison. You're also excellent in front of a camera. Keep up the great work. I just moved my business from Oregon to Sweden and I've been in the market for a truck. I'm now pretty well convinced that Scania will be my choice. This is the type of thing I need to know because I may also need to start building equipment to manage the project.
I’m so happy to see your partnership with Scania. My only experience with scania was with our 2870 case. It had a 6 cylinder scania engine that was a reliable horse. I love the sound of their V8 engines. Look forward to seeing Edison trucks all over North America. Too bad the normal players won’t deal with you like scania. Glad you found an awesome partner.
You wont be disappointed with scania in 84 i went to scania training school in the uk ,we did european trucking from uk as far east as Russia and Ukraine in late 80s if you maintain them oil changes was back then every 25k MUST DO THE OIL SPINNER RELIGIOUSLY every oil service. We had their retarder s oil and filter every 2nd oil change. We set the top end every year, and most trucks went to Beers scania of Breda nl to go on the dynomometer. Left uk in 2005 and have allways said north American is 10/15 years behind. Keep up the good work,love your content. Best wishes to you from saskatoon. Ps i see ih now have the s13 with the new opticruise❤
@@CarlMarxin norway it’s only 60 metric tonns if the road is rated for a module trailer. Thats 24 meters or longer with the truck. max length being 25.25 meters.
Navistar has been putting Scania in the Prostar since 2019 (as test beds) then (I think) around 2022 in production and they are supposed to be built in San Antonio TX... 13L Look it up
Chase keep making the right moves. I see no downside to going with Scania. They stand behind their products. I'd love to see their trucks in North America especially in the US. Especially how big the following for cabovers ate growing. I can't wait for the day where we see Edison Trucks everywhere. Its gonna happen too, watch.
I see a problem... he's trying to use a truck engine to generate power (which it was never designed to do) versus going with a generator that IS designed for power generation. He's gonna run that engine like a generator at high RPMs and then wonder why it's breaking down and guzzling gas so quickly versus a generator that's literal purpose is to run the most efficiently at high rpms. A truck engine is built for variable RPMs for movement while a generator is designed to stay at a constant RPM. The former is not efficient in the slightest when used as a generator.
I have been from North Europe and Western Europe for over 48 years on sevice for tanker and heavy haulage in transcontinental runs. These SCANIA engines were very reliable and strong as well as economical in several conditians during summer and winter haulage. Top quality world wide / greetings from an Dutch transcontinental driver/ engineer. 😊
Great rep. States the facts of the study’s without stretching it out whether it says exactly what they wanted or not. Nobody likes saying “well it did have better efficiency than a comparable engine from CAT but not better than the 500” In the US he’d of said “oh yeah our engine is waaaaaay more efficient than that 500” Subtext being that the small engine was overloaded to meet the optimal load of the bigger engine during the comparison.
He did say that theirs got 40% better fuel consumption. Their engine in the comparison was a 13 liter against a C18. If you look at the data on that single comparison it was for a short time and not enough information to say it was a fact. No way to quantify the work that was done. 40% is a major claim.
This is awesome! I hope that this new partnership with Scania works in everyones favor! Definitely two fantastic brands coming together On another note, I would love to see you guys haul that new engine to the all electric show with Topsy
Are you sure you can use them on road in the US or Canada? Because the official Scania USA website claims that those are industrial engines for off-road use despite having all the emissions certificates.
Edison trucks are registered as battery only electric vehicle and the onboard diesel engine is ignored so it doesn't need to pass emissions. In the future they may clamp down on this.
Ever since I played ets2 I fell in love with the V8 Scanias. If I had the money I would buy an edison for hauling an RV lol. I typically drive my 590S in ets2 with a sound mod made by Max2712. It is such a nice sounding truck, especially with a load on the back. Hope to see one drive by someday here in the Northwestern US. I can see an Edison BDE with a Scania V8 being a great log truck.
If you are wondering why Scania Engine doesn't use DPFs is due to ECM/ECU calibrations, they put in the time in the test cells to calibrate it properly. While US manifactures run it bare minimum and that's they need DPF, have higher consumption and lower power figures
Scania are very popular in New Zealand. Where we have American, Japanese and euro trucks. A truck spotter's dream. Those high HP euros are amazing and perfect fir our weight and terrain. We use Volvo Penta ahd Scania in generatirs at work, very furl efficient.
Not only can I see an Edison swap in the future but adding the Scania 770 engine and dry train to make a Schooley would be awesome. Either 36 or 40 foot school bus. Get rid of the whole drive train and do the Edison swap with this big engine. Mountains of Colorado. All the way down to death Valley. That thing would be awesome to live in with plenty of power left over for towing.
As a Swedish engineer I love that you chose proper gear in your trucks!! I mean, even if that wasn't the V8, it would be awesome if you put a V8 electric on the road 😆
I didn't know until this video that Scania was in Canada at all! So much European equipment over here and it never dawned on me once! I am truly impressed with how well engineered they are...trucks and engines. I hope it works out well for you and I'll be looking forward to some future videos. Maybe we will see some Scania cabovers on our highways soon? Cheers from the Maritimes!
@@manitobafarmer Bruce is teaming up with Scania NA to advertise their truck. Scania probably have approached Edison Motors too before Edit: oop.. yes they came to the shop lol
@@manitobafarmerIn all reality it would make it a one-stop shop for highway, EV, offroad and everything in between in more or less whatever configuration you'd like, so...
Been a truck mechanic for over 35 years, scania engines are very good motors, i've worked on them in the uk for many years, and for them for 4 years previously, the options you have here are enormous, good choice, seriously, good choice.
“Easy to do eh”? Lol😂😂😂
If only the current gen V8s were as reliable as the old ones 😂
2 for one. Boost Scania awareness, and get diesel-electric rigs out the door as fast as possible. Reach out to Scania corporate and ask for discounts as help in developing this market niche!
The marine diesels do well, when they say 770hp they mean 770 hp for a month of running, not 770hp peak for 10 hours.
Yes but scania v8 i think is the best engine of all trucks, they have torque ,power,sound,reability , i now to euro 5 first model do 1000000 km without problem
20yrs as a diesel mechanic in australia and Scania motors are 1 of the best for putting up with our brutal conditions thanks to being simple motors. There 16ltr V8's are a good old fashion push rod V8, unit injectors, no dpf's and having individuals heads means iv done many, many many single cylinder rebuilds on them. They are so tough that you can remove the piston and conrod from 1 cylinder and have it keep runnings on 7, with a load, back to the workshop hundreds of kilometres away, iv had to do that twice in the out back😂.
That's super cool!!
That is impressive.
I love when companies use single heads, makes life so much better most days
How'd ya block off the crank to get oil presure to the remaining big ends
copy that.
over hear in aussie myself. done it all from jap, american and euro and scania by far seams to up there if not at the top. there engines are easy to work on and durable.
I'm a retired truck driver and car enthusiasts, these guys are building the ultimate truck. Scania are very powerful engines, I just wished that I had a opportunity to drive one when I was younger.
lets be real, you just want to put V8's into your trucks :D
It would be an amazing project and collaboration! Bruce Wilson is already doing a v8 770r to drive in America
For good reason, they sound soooooooo nice.
Yep! Bruce doing great work.
@@carholic-sz3qvI’m so stoked Bruce is bringing in a Scania to America
@@EdisonMotorsYou must see,he is just releasing videos from Sweden how they are making the truck that they will bring over to USA.
It's said that there are two types of truck drivers: those who get to drive a Scania and those who want to drive a Scania.
I would.. but unfortnatly my company are owned by an investment group.. so when our cheap nasty renaults go in a few month. it will be whatever is cheapest... probably more renaults.... though a gas iveco demo has turned up..... and i want that even less
@@Gazzxy If you are truly unlucky they will buy Iveco. Sucks to be you bud... :D :D
@@Guds777 it will be the cheapest one for sure. whatever that will be when they remember to actually do a deal.. still don't think its been done. though I hear renault have goten more expensive
Of all all the Euro trucks I ever got to drive - I like the Renault Magnum the best!
Biggest, most open cabin, on top of all the traffic, big power (back in the early '90s).
After the Magnum I did NOT like the Scania - it felt like you can't see anything....
I'm in northern Europe and my cousin drives a gravel truck and trailer. He first drove a Mercedez-Benz, then he switched to a Volvo FH13, had that one for a year and then came to his senses and now he drives a Scania R730 with a total weight for truck + trailer + load is 76000kg
I'm just an old guy that likes trucks, machinery and powerful engines. I've never heard of Scania before seeing this video. You've got yourself a new subscriber due to interesting content, no excessive talking and no stupid music. Looking forward to seeing the installation of this motor.
Scania is a gold standard for Europe but there lies the problem with those motors, in my experience, these motors have to be treated like the EU regulations
9 driving hours per day max, (they include loading and unloading time in this)
56 per week or 90 in two,
MUST take a break every 4 to 5 hours with the truck not moving even if there is another driver for at least 30 minutes
MUST take 45 continuous hours of rest after 6 days of driving
I worked for Scania in New Zealand, by far the best company I have ever worked for. I would still be working for them if I hadn't moved here to Oilberta Cananada. If you're considering a V8 engine for your vehicles, please note that the exhaust manifold bolts and turbo mounting bolts often come loose from extreme heat cycles and being down between the frame rails. I don't know if this will be an issue for you, but it is something to note with your designs.
What a great news!
Bruce Wilson recently revealed that he in collaboration with Scania is bringing their 770R truck to USA for testing and promotional purposes,and now you announce your thing.
Interesting times.👍
Hahahaha, I guess all these young kids want to relive the misery of driving/living in a cabover truck for weeks and weeks! I did my time in Cabovers, never ever again!
@@brownh2orat211You are so f****** cringe.😁
@@brownh2orat211 different time old man
@@brownh2orat211 I take it you've never driven a Scania before. When overtaking them on the highway, you can see the cab is "separate" from the chassis suspension wise the way they ride, so they're not like the old kidney/bone shakers you would've been used to.
@@brownh2orat211 -Jeeez man...-What a crock! One can always smell the BS here... Been livin' in SCANIA cabover trucks for about 25 years now.
After watching Bruce Wilson last night filming the factory. I am impressed on their build quality.
And somehow, Americans assume without any reason that Scania is not as good as the North American low quality...
@@fabr5747 american trucks are just new but really still 30 years old.
saw bruce vid too. but I want to say that you can find many other EU Truck production lines on You Tube like MAN, Mercedes Benz, and more. have a nice day with best regards from Germany
@@Schmokkie1984 Australian here. We get every kind of truck here. EU Cabovers (Scania, MAN, DAF, Mercedes, Volvo, Renault, IVECO...), American 'Long-nose' (Mack, Kenworth, Peterbuilt, International/Western Star) - We Also have Kenworth Cabovers and not just old ones, we produce them locally for the local market.
@@scraverXWhich manufacturer do Australians prefer? Americans prefer Kenworth and Peterbilt trucks.
2:45 that's only partially true, 40 or 44 tonnes is a max weight for most of the continental EU, however in the Nordics we can haul way more than that, in Sweden - home of the Scania we can haul up to 64 tonnes with truck and trailer combos of up to 25.25 meters, and after the latest transport regulations revisions, up to 74 tonnes and 34.5 meters in length on selected roads. That's where the 770 comes to shine ;)
Finland has had 76t limits for like a decade now 😅😅
@@nikonieminen1207 I know, our Swedish law makers are a bit behind you, our dear brothers to the East 🥲
@@WeekendWarrior92 but i mean, at least you get paid 😂local truck owners are jealous that companies can easily stay afloat with lower payloads 🤷♀️
The USA has permits to go over 40 ton. My company has many straight truck and trailer that hall 64 ton.
One of our transport drivers said the max he's hauled with his X15 powered tractor is 128 ton. You just have to get permits and have the length and number of axles to spread that weight out to legal limits.
This is the sort of negativity you can expect from those who don't know about Scania! They will just have to be educated about how good these engines are. Bruce Wilson down in the States has been working with Scania for some time now, and has shown the Scania trucks to some "typical" American truckers, general opinion was, they are years ahead of us in America. They will take a lot to convince, BUT, when they see and hear these engines, they will melt! They sound so good and perform so much better than the stuff they are used to. They will have to learn not everything made outside their region is NOT BAD, it's really BETTER than they are used to. Chase, this is the engine I've hoped you will use rather than some Chinese stuff that they say will provide the back-up you want/need. With Scania, you will get everything you expect and more. If you want hand holding through the process, Scania will be there!!!!!!!!!! Yes I love Scania, I love most things Swedish, but Scania has been on my personal radar since 1971. They are a premier company to work for and work with. Glad you've teamed up with someone, who will truly support the whole process. WELL DONE team Edison!!!!!! From UK.
In the interest of fairness I scrolled and read at least 30 comments below this and have yet to see a single negative thing said about Scania.
I also can’t name a single trucker in North America that wouldn’t give their left nut to have a Scania. I’ve always said the day I have to run a new truck on an elog is my last day trucking over the road. That will no longer be true if 770hp V8 Scanias are on the table. 😂
Having lived in China, I learned 1 thing about their manufacturing ethos.
The good stuff stays in country, and there's very little of it.
30 year trucker here Scania is the best. I'm in the US. My work truck is Volvo, my personal vehicles is Volvo and Saab. Been driving Swedish from a teenager back in 1985. I wish Scania truckers were mainstream in the US.
At least the Scanias are not copied!
Also from the UK and 100% agree with you, Swedish power is the right kindnof power for Edison. Love this
To be honest, I was happy to see CAT so front and center as the first engine. I thought this would help them recognize their importance to NA manufacturing.
Because they put profit over quality and developing relationships with the small guys, they lost out on this amazing opportunity and partnership.
Frankley, with how they've treated their NA workforce in the past few years, I am happy Scandia won out.
I still think Edison Motors has the right philosophy and approach to be one of those long-lasting great companies!
Just like the chicken tax helped enable crap "light trucks" to be the standard in the US for so long blind loyalty to NA products that are worse than the competition doesn't encourage NA companies to make competitive products.
I'm all for supporting domestic manufacturing, but I'm against propping up bad products and or bad companies because they're in NA.
Yeah fuq CAT.
This is so cool. Bruce Wilson Trucking is actually showing a Scania that's being built for the North American market. He will be bringing it to Tennessee and showcasing the truck to hopefully open the market to them!!! You two guys are really helping Scania gain a foothold and that's awesome. Great video!!
I would love to drive a scania
As a swede this makes me happy and a bit proud even though I had nothing to do with the deal.
My personal experience is that Swedish companies (even the really large ones) feels less "corporate" than many other international counterparts. You are often allowed to speak to engineers and service personal if needed without having to go through layers upon layers of management.
In other words they haven't lost their humanity. Unlike most major US corporation. I'll take the European touch anytime. I'm Canadian partly raised in Paris as a mil. brat (R.C.A.F. SHAPE HQ) and I've considered France my second home country ever since. In general Europe is more sane than North America. Their work ethic and product quality generally reflect that.
I've driven Scania trucks around the south island of New Zealand over 25 years, those trucks have always got me back to the yard
As a retired mechanical engineer, in my opinion you made a great choice!
For those concerned about them being worked on compared to Cummins or CAT, you should factor in no dpf mean it won't break down near as much
And added running cost.
User serviceability is my concern. People here know CAT/Cummins engines. Not so many know Scania.
They will learn them in no time, because Edison are going to be everywhere @@i-love-comountains3850
It is just nuts and bolts.
@@i-love-comountains3850 Aye there will be extra costs/longer repair times. Sure if you were in around Edmonton or Vancouver it probably would not be an issue. And no I'm not talking about parts, but the mechanic to change that part out. However out in the middle of the BC mountains? lol gl with that. There are Cummins/CAT shops scattered through the BC mountains because of logging and mining, with lots of mobile mechanics to service the area. I love the idea of Scania engines being used, but there WILL be added costs to operators for that decision and will alienate clientele you would have had if you used one of the other two due to mechanic availability and fleet mechanics already trained in how to fix what they have. Its a really risky move, with some benefit but id say more downsides.
Drove Scania for years. Now living in Alberta can't wait !!
Welcome to the Traton family! I work for Navistar and our new S13 is a Scania engine
Navistar? 🤢🤮
Scania 😍❤
Scania is Great , my brother I'm drove a Scania Semi Natural Gas, 2022, amazing unit.
Scania is number 1 in South America as well.
😊😊😊
I love seeing more Scania engine in the US, I’ve been working with them for years in Hyundai equipment and by far they have held up better than Cummins and CAT engines. And parts availability I have found to be better than either also. I think you guys made an excellent choice going with Scania.
We run a 2013 Scania R500 V8 with close to one million km on it.
Fuel efficient and reliable! We tuned it to around 600hp. It is just simply awesome!👌👌
Good morning from the sunny south Okanagan, thanks for the update. I grew up on a Saskatchewan farm where in the '70's we ran mostly Case tractors with the Scania diesels, as well as some Massey with Perkins and Versatile with Cummins. While I loved the Versatile with it's Cummins, the Scania Cases were very trouble free and efficient even back then. All the best to you all this Labour Day weekend.
A north American truck with a V8 hell yeah
Need to bring back the cat LoL
And a great sounding one at that, removing the muffler and replacing it with an extra long (like 12meter) exhaust pipe tend to have V8 Scanias absolutely singing
V8 is a downgrade from inline 6
I find it funny how people in north america forget mexico is in north america and forget that scania trucks are already on the road in mexico with the v8s canda and the usa are way behind
@@fastinradfordable Why do you say that?
chase your right, Kroger did a study on engine size and switched to the larger engines beacuse it was more efficent
Eff kroger for their new multi-billion dollar merger. They're about to be a monopoly and admitted in court that they deliberately hiked prices on essentials during the pandemic.
I say again, f u c k kroger.
That was the reason Cummins went from 5.9L to 6.7L for Ram. Reason being diesel engines operate at low enough rpm that thermal energy from combustion has time to soak into the cylinder walls. Increasing the cylinder volume per surface area ratio keeps more of the heat in the cylinder and also reduces demand on the cooling system
@Evildaddy911 and there is no replacement for displacement when it comes to low end rpm power and longevity
@@Evildaddy911honestly the 6.7 is so close to the 5.9 it just has more fuel flow. You can turn a late 5.9 up conservatively and get the same performance as a 6.7 without all the emissions.
@@EkzdeeLFT At the expense of rolling coal sometimes.
I'm 42, American Trucker, been a fan of Scania since my mom got us the Internet when I was a teen and seen pics of the 143. Been hooked every since. Scania trucks and motors just look like pieces of art
I had no idea so many things here in North America had Scania motors. I've heard some boats do but not the other things mentioned.
I really wish Scania would offer the R & S series here. I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
Wish Kenworth & Peterbilt would offer the Scania motor range but, that won't happen since PACCAR owns Kenny & Peter 😂.
We need Scania Trucks here 🇺🇸 🇺🇲 and 🇨🇦 🍁
Supposedly Bruce Wilson is looking to bring over Modern Scania's so your dream may come true. Or at worse just gotta wait for Edison to start making some lol.
@@NEEDbacon lol.. not a fan of Bruce but.. if he talks Scania into bringing trucks here, I just might become a fan lol
We would love to see this in the Kenworth and Peterbilt as well. Been hauling trees and logs with the mx 13... What a pos engine... The DPF has endless problems and the only one I've seen that runs half way descent is a deleted one and still just can't run with the big dogs...
I believe Scania is looking at beginning to sell trucks in the US now. Initially, in lower volumes, made in Europe (and taking the loss) to test the market, but as soon as the volumes pick up they'll no doubt set up a manufacturing plant in America. Scania is now part of Traton, which is owned by VW and ultimately by Porsche. Navistar is also part of the group.
@@RobertClaeson At work I've been seeing an International with the Scania logo on it, saying it's equipped with the engine from them. Pretty interesting. And certainly will help any worries about Scania engines not being common in North America. Shame they got rid of the Lonestar this year, such a good looking truck.
Scania engines in trucks are just a dream to drive with. A lot of torque from 800 rpm up to 1800. Super drivable engines.
I think CAT didn’t even want this truck existing.
from what i understand in the US you can't buy a new truck with a CAT engine in it
@@davidpugh8772cat hasn’t made a new on highway engine since 2010, every truck newer than that with a cat is usually a glider with a pre 2000 engine
No EPA BS
@jeffreyturner6262 thanks, I couldn't remember the year they stopped my Highway engines
@@davidpugh8772 they can't buy one in it but they do have a cat motor you can change out with it's not like the older cat motors
I was skeptical until no DPF 😂
That’s what sold us
Hahaha same here 😅
DPFs aren't a big problem, its EGR and the adblue system that is bad. If you just regen a DPF filter will last a long while
They still use an SCR system (DEF), so just as much of a pain in the ass. And no less prone to operator/owner negligence lol
@@alexstromberg7696regen my truck when needed.. inbetween all the sensors and bs engineering and filters id take a scania any day. My truck at work has 69k on it has already had the whole dpf system replaced.. thing does a regen almost everyday still ffs.
Canada represent, let's GO!!!!!!!!!!!! Proud of you guys' work.
I can see Edison systems incorporated in many applications. The system is so versatile. It can be a plug and play. Wow. Good Job!!
That Scania sales man did good😂
Here in Australia Scania trucks are pulling 4 trailer 200 ton road trains and they are killing it. Very popular in big fleets in long haul road train work. Perfect choice to repower your rig.
That is so awesome, in Sweden we are limited to 2 trailers for a road train (used to be more before the 80's or so), and you cannot use the longest trailers for those, there is a maximum total length and a maximum individual trailer length, but hey, most of Europe actually only allow a single trailer on their roads, so we are luckier than them at least.
Iam not in trucks but I drive buses and there's a reason most of the buses in Australia run scania chassis and running gear.
Who knew that being nice the little guy can turn into an unintended ad? Props Scania! 👍👍
I think Scania knows
Over 40 years ago my Dad was a company director and they changed trucks at the milk company to Scania. About 20 units. They had the longest haul in NZ, about 260km round trip, farm to factory. They transport cost per pound of dairy fat was the third lowest in the country. Haulage was around twice at far as next company. Scania are great power trains.
You make me proud to be Canadian (again)
You guys are paving the way for the truck industry, Tractors and pickups!
Here in Sweden we have an 850 hp truck somewhere I've seen. With an off the shelf 850 hp engine. That’s one of their marine engines. If you don't settle with off the shelf you can get a lot more.
The marine engines go up to 1150hp on the exact same block and internals, but trucks can't cool that much power, so 770 is max right now
@@kalle5548 also related to emissions, which aren't as strict in the marine sector.
Gearbox, axle, is the week link
Emissions regulations and fuel consumption are what's limiting the power. You can get more power but the fuel consumption will just skyrocket.
If you can afford a motorboat with multiple 1150 hp engines then the fuel cost isn't a big problem.
As a Swede: Hell yeah, great choice! Scania and Volvo are both fantastic, and every time I've had the misfortune of having to drive a MAN or Mercedes I have to resist the urge to ditch the fucking thing in a lake.
We have 5 Scania engines at work. Awesome engines, easy better than Caterpillar. Here in Ohio dealer support is good, almost as good as Cat, but not needed nearly as much.
This is so great, I’ve heard guys say they have over 2 million miles on there Scania V8s
They're repowering the fast catamaran fleet up here in Sitka with Scanias. Quad v-8's in each boat, 3600 total horsepower. I was involved with fitting the first set last winter. Nice engines.
I’m tempted to see if Collicut can drop a 770 into my Western Star. lol. The no DPF is a huge appeal. Can’t wait to see the next build!
Gryphons kick ass, and that's the Scania logo. So let's fly!
Really nice to hear practical elements like 'getting parts' being addressed.
....so it's like a Saab?😁
Very good choice. Scania is a company that actually cares about the people they work with.
In Aus they haul 220+ ton road trains, worked in a roadhouse, thousand clicks from the nearest part store, scania trucks, because its 3453km each way and 1000 km to a parts store,
Ya know..... It's just nice fimally seeing local business in automotive/ diesel being promoted within Canada, maybe for the first time in my lifetime. The Scania might be a European engine but as someone that lived in Red Deer from 09 until a few months ago seeing business in manufacturing more and more around as a mechanic myself, this is really cool.
These may become the ultimate truck for truckers in North America and outward. The jumps in progress you guys are having is really special.
Crazy just yesterday I watched a video of a boat that had a Hybrid Powerplant just like you guys with twin Scania Engines making combined 3000hp! And I couldn't avoid remembering you guys.. And boom! This video comes out same engines.
I have just found your channel and happy to see another small company in North America going for Scania , you won't regret it . I'm a retired UK truck driver and had the good fortune to land a job in 1996 driving a Brand New Model 124 360hp 4x2 Sleeper Cab Scania 38 Tonne GVW that had just come out , it was a completely new model including the Engine with an 8 speed splitter box = 16 speed .Cab comfort was excellent and had a night heater that ran on Diesel . Before that I had driven older Scanias and all were good.
Please continue this work! I am dreaming of a day when any vehicle can have a retrofit to electric drive. I have a 33 year old Toyota pickup, would love to drive it the rest of my life, on electricity.
Your work is the best progressive steps to making that happen!❤
Yes! X2! Ours is a 1991 too!!! Still going at over half a million km!
I am so excited for your business venture with Scania. So excited, in fact, that I had to tell my wife all about it. I was met with a, “That’s nice dear.” No such higher praise! I love the transparency and following along in this adventure. All the best! I’m proud of you and your team.
Is Topsy going to be powered by a 9.0L Scania engine just like the CAT. It would seem like tremendous overkill to put the 770hp 16L engine in Topsy just to run the generator.
This is what I don't get. I thought they were building electric trucks, not engine swapping. I don't understand.
The 770 is going to be a conventional drive Edison L truck. It’s what they call the BDE series, it’s on their website.
Would it be overkill? Yes
Will I still make a hybrid with a V8 anyways? Also yes.
We can get 1200kw peak out of batteries + 500kw out of the V8
That’s 1700KW, or about 2400 HP
I don’t need it, but I want it
Look at it this way, with a larger engine on this thing, you have a portable generator that is more than capable of powering the worksite and recharge the batteries in addition to maybe charging another smaller electric vehicle.
@@EdisonMotors Mr Artelle raises a good point, this thing could charge BEVs that convey workers to the worksite and all the lights and saws and things in construction.
i love v8 gasoline turbo engines more than diesel because i love convertibles/miatas and i would prefer to not be next to expensive rolling coal diesels in occasional traffic. Thank you so much for partnering Edison Motors with ICE European engines!
Glad to see Todd from Precision is at Collicutt. I used to snub for Precision back in the day, before they got the Scania engines. Regen was always a safety concern for us. Glad to see Scania solved that. So, can you buy a Scania engine through Collicutt as a replacement for any highway truck? I'm thinking older trucks with mechanical engines. What electronics can they compensate for if you have an older project truck?
Honestly, with limited experience on Euro diesels, the experiences I’ve had have always been positive. Designs are there to perform a function, space is used efficiently to house components, and most things are done in such a way to make servicing convenient. They’re usually ahead of the game by more than just emissions.
30 plus years as a truckdriver in sweden I always preferred scania.
I think this was a very solid decision. These all around should be great trucks.
Old school look of the Edison trucks with Scania engines would be wild
You should mention to SCANIA, that they might look into the possibility of using the massive amount of electricity, you have available, to increase emission efficiency in the future as standards get stricter and stricter. I would imagine the engineers may not have thought about a situation where a Diesel engine would have that kind of electrical power available. It *might* be useful.
Scania builds fully electric trucks, and even have their own battery plant in their home town of Södertälje
@@petereriksson4405
They have a bolt on in line E motor set up ..they have also experimented with it on boats.
If you can get a smaller more efficient engine and generator you're going to be winning all the way. 😎🧙🏻♂️
I’m not going to lie, Chase your seal of approval on Scania is probably the best advertisement they could have in North America! I’m curious to see how things look after a half million miles of use in your specific application. Due to the torque loads you are going to be running and the reliability of the duty cycle it will be interesting to see what kind of “mileage” you end up getting from the motor compared to a non hybrid drive assembly. Please keep us updated on all the details. ❤
First Bruces video on building his Scania and now this? What kind of wizardry is going on here??
You guys a ground breaking and breaking the strangle hold huge companies have on all North America. Let's go !!
Mr Scania rep is talking about Tier IV final, which is an off-road/ag certification with a much looser standard than on-highway. This does not cross with EPA24 (on-highway), and especially the upcoming EPA27. Are you sure Mr. government is going to go along with this?
Now this I amazing drove lots of Scania in Europe never had any problems running lots of miles. Moved to Canada and i broke down more times in two weeks then I ever done in the 20 years in Europe. Trucks here are tearing its guts out to put loads if you ran a American truck in Europe you would be broke in a month so heavy on fuel. Good job guys hope you put lots of up dates on this engine 👍
My experience is mainly marine applications and they are just really good engines. And they are dirt cheap.
Not only are they used in powerboats up to 1500hp, lasting for thousands of hours. They are extremely popular as bow thrusters, and they can handle the sudden power demand bow thrusters need to deliver very well. Better than most.
They are also becoming more and more popular in offshore where a whole bunch of Scania gensets replaces a couple of high power generators. They are up there with the best in efficiency, a number of smaller engines (small is a Scania v8 in this application) is more flexible so you don’t have to run a too large engine at low load. And they last for 60k hours pretty reliably. After that the engine gets thrown out and a new engine gets put in costing a measly 50k. It costs a little more installation effort but a lot less heavy maintenance. They are throw away items, but high quality. They are cheaper, more efficient and at least as reliable up to 60k hours as a comparable caterpillar. And they run much smoother and quieter which is nice for the crew.
I was worried about how this would affect user serviceability. CAT engines are plentiful and so are their parts. Not sure about Scania.
@@i-love-comountains3850 There's a huge parts and service network for Scania all over the US. 10 dealers just 2-3 hours away from where I live.
You guy’s are an absolute inspiration!
This is awesome. Scania is such a cool company. So excited to see these rolling down the road!!
I'm floored, can't believe you went with Scania engines. Yay Can-Swe joint-venture ftw! 💪🥳
Random Fact: Volvo, Scania’s biggest competitor in the European truck market only exists because Scania decided to stop making cars, and some engineers form SKF bearings decided they would build Swedish cars for Swedish people.
What do you talk about 😂😂😂 Scania never built cars, Saab did and where two separate companys under the same company.. Its like doing parallels between why Lamborghini build their tractors a certain way based on why audi TT sells bad 😂😂
@pappskalle8594 They did actually, but very shortly, they also made bikes and train carts
Volvo actually took control of Scania for a brief period till they were forced to sell the shares (dominant market position in a few countries like the Baltic States).Incidentally, Volvo sold their car division to a chinese company.
@@pappskalle8594 you just shown your ignorance with that statement
@@luluczs Geeley owns Volvo. The CEO is a big fan of Volvo, so he wants to try to follow Volvo's traditions as much as possible.
I am delighted to see how well you are doing with Edison. You're also excellent in front of a camera. Keep up the great work. I just moved my business from Oregon to Sweden and I've been in the market for a truck. I'm now pretty well convinced that Scania will be my choice. This is the type of thing I need to know because I may also need to start building equipment to manage the project.
In Finland we have trucks up to 76 metric tons (167 500 lbs) with those Scania 770 hp engines. 44 tons in nothing in north europe
I’m so happy to see your partnership with Scania. My only experience with scania was with our 2870 case. It had a 6 cylinder scania engine that was a reliable horse. I love the sound of their V8 engines. Look forward to seeing Edison trucks all over North America. Too bad the normal players won’t deal with you like scania. Glad you found an awesome partner.
Can't wait to see this scania in action. Sounds like American companies should take some notes on customer service.
They really can
@@EdisonMotors "Some notes" - I would rather say they need a whole book for that purpose. Not just 'some notes'
So many of our old and big companies in NA are nasty pieces of work nowadays. We used to be proud of them, Boeing for example, and now not so much.
You wont be disappointed with scania in 84 i went to scania training school in the uk ,we did european trucking from uk as far east as Russia and Ukraine in late 80s if you maintain them oil changes was back then every 25k MUST DO THE OIL SPINNER RELIGIOUSLY every oil service. We had their retarder s oil and filter every 2nd oil change. We set the top end every year, and most trucks went to Beers scania of Breda nl to go on the dynomometer.
Left uk in 2005 and have allways said north American is 10/15 years behind.
Keep up the good work,love your content. Best wishes to you from saskatoon. Ps i see ih now have the s13 with the new opticruise❤
2:41 we're moving 70+ in sweden and finnland ;)
In Norway too, but only on certain roads rated for the axle load
@@CarlMarxits all axles. You can haul millions of pounds in canada but you just need more axles and push trucks
@@taylorforster9256
LAND TRAINS BABYYYYY
@@CarlMarxin norway it’s only 60 metric tonns if the road is rated for a module trailer. Thats 24 meters or longer with the truck. max length being 25.25 meters.
@@taylorforster9256 special cargo is special cargo. How big is the limit for your regular truck? 104 tonnes here in Finland
I love it and trust that you have done the math. Scania is so well known in Europe.
Navistar has been putting Scania in the Prostar since 2019 (as test beds) then (I think) around 2022 in production and they are supposed to be built in San Antonio TX... 13L Look it up
Chase keep making the right moves. I see no downside to going with Scania. They stand behind their products. I'd love to see their trucks in North America especially in the US. Especially how big the following for cabovers ate growing. I can't wait for the day where we see Edison Trucks everywhere. Its gonna happen too, watch.
I see a problem... he's trying to use a truck engine to generate power (which it was never designed to do) versus going with a generator that IS designed for power generation. He's gonna run that engine like a generator at high RPMs and then wonder why it's breaking down and guzzling gas so quickly versus a generator that's literal purpose is to run the most efficiently at high rpms. A truck engine is built for variable RPMs for movement while a generator is designed to stay at a constant RPM. The former is not efficient in the slightest when used as a generator.
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@@ryanthompson3737Scania makes engines for stationary too. Doesn't have to be for a truck engine.
I have been from North Europe and Western Europe for over 48 years on sevice for tanker and heavy haulage in transcontinental runs. These SCANIA engines were very reliable and strong as well as economical in several conditians during summer and winter haulage. Top quality world wide / greetings from an Dutch transcontinental driver/ engineer. 😊
Great, now we need Bruce Wilson x Edison Motors Collab!!!!
Congratulations Edison Motors.
Scania is super respecter in nordics, great you guys get your hands on these pieces of engineering marvels
Great rep. States the facts of the study’s without stretching it out whether it says exactly what they wanted or not. Nobody likes saying “well it did have better efficiency than a comparable engine from CAT but not better than the 500” In the US he’d of said “oh yeah our engine is waaaaaay more efficient than that 500” Subtext being that the small engine was overloaded to meet the optimal load of the bigger engine during the comparison.
He did say that theirs got 40% better fuel consumption. Their engine in the comparison was a 13 liter against a C18. If you look at the data on that single comparison it was for a short time and not enough information to say it was a fact. No way to quantify the work that was done. 40% is a major claim.
@@Middleman570 13L to a 18 L engine is a big difference in my book
Always good to keep it local.... Hoping we can in the future bring manufacturing to Canada.
Continental Europe hauls 44 tons. Sweden and Finland, the primary markets for the 770 engine hauls 74 and 76 tons respectively.
This is awesome! I hope that this new partnership with Scania works in everyones favor! Definitely two fantastic brands coming together
On another note, I would love to see you guys haul that new engine to the all electric show with Topsy
I hope Bruce Wilson buys one. He loves Scania.
This is incredible. God speed, Edison Motors!
Are you sure you can use them on road in the US or Canada? Because the official Scania USA website claims that those are industrial engines for off-road use despite having all the emissions certificates.
Edison trucks are registered as battery only electric vehicle and the onboard diesel engine is ignored so it doesn't need to pass emissions. In the future they may clamp down on this.
Ever since I played ets2 I fell in love with the V8 Scanias. If I had the money I would buy an edison for hauling an RV lol. I typically drive my 590S in ets2 with a sound mod made by Max2712. It is such a nice sounding truck, especially with a load on the back. Hope to see one drive by someday here in the Northwestern US. I can see an Edison BDE with a Scania V8 being a great log truck.
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Did you hear that!
Amazing!
I'm so glad you are going with Scania.
If you are wondering why Scania Engine doesn't use DPFs is due to ECM/ECU calibrations, they put in the time in the test cells to calibrate it properly. While US manifactures run it bare minimum and that's they need DPF, have higher consumption and lower power figures
Crying out loud. Cheap and dirty.
Scania are very popular in New Zealand.
Where we have American, Japanese and euro trucks. A truck spotter's dream.
Those high HP euros are amazing and perfect fir our weight and terrain.
We use Volvo Penta ahd Scania in generatirs at work, very furl efficient.
Not only can I see an Edison swap in the future but adding the Scania 770 engine and dry train to make a Schooley would be awesome. Either 36 or 40 foot school bus. Get rid of the whole drive train and do the Edison swap with this big engine. Mountains of Colorado. All the way down to death Valley. That thing would be awesome to live in with plenty of power left over for towing.
Having seen Bus Grease Monkey working on some vintage stuff I do wonder how well the set up would work in a Coach.
As a Swedish engineer I love that you chose proper gear in your trucks!! I mean, even if that wasn't the V8, it would be awesome if you put a V8 electric on the road 😆
This engine in North American trim still has an SCR system with DEF injection ... it just doesn't have a DPF.
You and Bruce Wilson are full on Scania, I couldn’t be more proud👌🏼👌🏼🥲.
Scania will bring back the V8 to the US.
Scania engines are powerful
I didn't know until this video that Scania was in Canada at all! So much European equipment over here and it never dawned on me once! I am truly impressed with how well engineered they are...trucks and engines. I hope it works out well for you and I'll be looking forward to some future videos. Maybe we will see some Scania cabovers on our highways soon? Cheers from the Maritimes!
Damn, you and Bruce Wilson need to meet...
Why so Bruce can make a bunch of clickbait stuff and chalk spray Topsy?
@@manitobafarmer Bruce is teaming up with Scania NA to advertise their truck. Scania probably have approached Edison Motors too before
Edit: oop.. yes they came to the shop lol
@@manitobafarmerIn all reality it would make it a one-stop shop for highway, EV, offroad and everything in between in more or less whatever configuration you'd like, so...
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Don’t get that guy involved with Edison. There’s men then there are others. Edison don’t need others.