Strange New Worlds: Subspace Rhapsody - Meet the Songwriters!
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- Опубліковано 3 вер 2023
- Meet the songwriters for the Star Trek: Strange New Worlds musical episode, "Subspace Rhapsody": Kay Hanley and Tom Polce
INCLUDES SPOILERS!
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I never would have guessed Ethan Peck didn't consider himself a singer. What a great use of his voice! This interview was a wonderful addition to watching the episode.
Thank you, Elizabeth! Yes, Ethan Peck's singing voice sounds amazing. Listening to him talking in various interviews, his natural speaking voice is just amazing: both deep and clear.
Thank you very much for letting us know you appreciated the interview. It was a departure from our normal podcast format, but we felt it was worth it to get these two melody makers interviewed finally!
I've rewatched "Subspace Rhapsody" many times and the whole family listens to the soundtrack in the car. The writing and music was brilliant! My daughter and I agree that this was the best TV musical in recent history. I love musicals and I love all things Star Trek, but I didn't know how this was going to be integrated storywise. I will admit that I had my doubts when I first heard about this episode, but I'm really glad I was wrong ! Great job you two! :)
Thank you, Greg! We completely agree, and we've passed your compliments on to Tom and Kay.
I was so afraid they would jump the shark on this one, but these guys, along with the writers and cast, are so brilliant. It was wonderful.
Hi! Arthur here! I had the same fears, that the episode wouldn't work and would just be embarrassing. Fortunately, the entire team really wanted a success, and they picked good, talented, skilled people to make it happen. (I have passed your compliment on to Tom and Kay!)
The incredible creativity and skill these two artists have is simply remarkable. I wish Gene Roddenberry could have seen and heard this.
I agree! I think Gene Roddenberry would have approved of the series and the episode.
OMG we MUST talk about the Klingon Boy Band moment!! So brilliant, and the way they brought out the dancers and the captain's chair slides back, no I was done! ROFL!! 💜🖖🏿🪐💫✨
I love the Spock lyrics!! I solve for YYYY!! I'm the X! Math and emotion!! So brilliant! 💜🖖🏿🪐💫✨
In Chapel's song -- "If I need to leave you, I won't fight it" -- it works so well because it is cruel. Had she been able to just talk to Spock, she wouldn't have been as open, sparing his feelings. But as she was "under the spell" of the fold, she had to say it.
That was my feeling exactly, Solomon, and she didn't WANT to have that conversation right there -- Spock instigated the singing, and thus the brutal honesty, and the outcome.
So true. To borrow a term from the Picard universe, the 'absolute candor' forced on them by the anomaly led to some extremely tortured revelations. And as a consequence of all that truth, the characters experience growth that they might not have otherwise.
This was a really cool behind-the-scenes view of the episode. I really enjoyed it. The pain and anger that came out in the lyrics of Spock's (I'm the X) piece really provides a justification for the character's predominantly stoic (i.e. Vulcan) disposition in all of the Trek shows/films. It really hurts being dumped.
Also, this episode has spawned a really clever quote for the current generation of Star Trek fans.
"You've never heard K-pop until you've heard it sung in the original Klingon"
I don't know who thought that up (it wasn't me) but from an old Trek fan, that is hilarious.
Thank you, Michael! It was amazing to have them on the podcast -- and to get to be their first interview about their excellent work was a big win!
We love the "original Klingon" joke; it's so appropriate for both Shakespeare and K-Pop!
Huge kudos to Kay and Tom. They gave Star Trek something wonderful to add to its universe.
@MelodyPodcast Thanks so much for sharing. I have been looking for some interview and just wish they had discussed in more detail how they came up with the melodies and harmony is and Myrick for the music but this is a good start. Thank you.
Well, if there's enough positive response and enough requests for it, we may be able to ask them back onto the podcast for another interview, this time including selected questions from listeners/viewers!
@@MelodyPodcast Yes please!
Brilliant! Emmy worthy for sure. My favorite episode of all the Star Trek Series and that’s saying something as I been a fan since 1966. You two nailed it! 🤯🥰
I typically find musicals cheesy, and generally don’t like them. But this episode shocked and amazed me! The music and the lyrics were fantastic, and the fact that the cast that I’ve grown fond of were singing was even more amazing. Great job Kay and Tom! Deserves an award. You both are so talented.
Thank you for your comment! I've shared your compliments with Kay and Tom!
28th as a Boomer who grew up watching TOS as new episodes... and I loved Most things Trek...I LOVED this....and im not much into musicals....what made this special was the story / how they Knew they were singing and why....it all made sense.... all the songs were great..my Fave was by no#1 & Lu'An .. about SECRETS..... Amazing!
Thank you! I agree. The solid commitment to making this episode both a musical AND part of the greater story -- including 1) long plotlines, 2) individual episode plot, 3) individual character plots, AND 4) canon -- was so impressive and admirable. And No. 1 singing about secrets -- especially after Ad Aspra per Aspera, during which I admit I ugly cried -- hit home for me as well.
I completely agree, I absolutely loved these songs and lyrics. Amazing!
Just found your podcast today and this interview is absolutely amazing! This is my all-time favorite episode out of ALL the Star Trek series all the way back to the original with William Shatner. Thank you for this interview. Knowing the back story about the songs for Subspace Rhapsody is great. I've listened to the songs over and over again, now I'll go back and listen to them AGAIN.
Thank you for the compliment, Patte! I've shared your comment with Kay and Tom. I, too, love the episode, and have rewatched it and relistened more times than I can count. The episode is a delight, and this show has me loving Star Trek all over again!
I need to know to what extent Captain Pike was meant to channel Neil Diamond. You can TOTALLY hear it, especially in the finale!! 💜🖖🏿🪐💫✨
Yes! Rebecca and Gilbert & Sullivan was a great easter egg especially after the Short Trek where she sings Model of a Modern Major General! So good!! 💜🖖🏿🪐💫✨
All the songs are amazing - but La'an's song is definitely the best at every level.
That song is a banger, and Christina Chong sings it so brilliantly!
Thank you for the interview. I love Strange New Worlds: Subspace Rhapsody!!! I have been a fan of Star Trek for many decades and this is one of my favorite episodes.
We're really glad you enjoyed the interview. Two great melody makers who are even more impressive working together!
You both really hit it out of the park with this Star Trek episode! Everything was fantastic and it's one my favorite episodes across all series! Thanks for your talent and inspiration!
Thank you, Chris! I've shared your compliments with Tom and Kay!
I saw a fan spotlight at Rose City Comic Con yesterday (23SEPT2023) with Jess Bush and she said that her only singing experience was in a choir she was in as a kid back in Melbourne.
Could've fooled me!
Arthur here! Yes, Jess really did a great job! I'm glad she took the challenge, as I think her vocal style is distinct and interesting!
This was a fantastic interview to watch. My dad and I (who both love Star Trek) watched this episode together and we both greatly enjoyed it. We laughed so much when Spock started singing. I would also say the K-pop works better for the Klingons since they had mentioned the singing as being "their dishonor." I don't think Klingon opera would have been as dishonorable since they would have accepted it as part of their culture. Thank you for this amazing collaboration!
Thank you, Elizabeth! We're very proud of the interview and get attention for the amazing job that Kay and Tom did on this episode. (We shared your compliments with them.) We agree about the Klingon Opera. If they'd suddenly found themselves singing opera to communicate, they probably would have LIKED it! So much drama! Cheers!
Would love to hear those demos
Isaiah, we completely agree. We would love to hear every scrap from the creative process they went through here. (And we shared your comment with Tom and Kay.)
This is "Broadway quality music and lyrics". Many transitions in all the pieces of this episode....in a way, it tells the story as a musical ballad. Pure Genius. Celia Rose Gooding knocked it right out of the park. Great Job Kay and Tom you have done amazing work, and it is hard to believe you had a five-week deadline.
Thank you for commenting! We've shared your compliments with Kay and Tom!
@@MelodyPodcast , Thank You
I would love this to make it to the stage, everybody should get to enjoy this music and lyrics.
Can't wait to hear the story of Spock's breakup song. Love all the math analogies in that! I solve for Y [WHY did she leave me?!] ... I'm the X [ex]. LOVE THAT!! And very interesting choice to have Chapel's melody and Spock's melody to be two variations on the same theme!! So good!💜🖖🏿🪐💫✨
This was absolutely outstanding! You got yourself a new listener, thanks for this amazing interview! I learned so much about the writing process and the show, this was so well done. 😊
Thank you! We hope you enjoy listening to the other episodes as well! This episode was a standout in two ways: first, we went directly to UA-cam VIDEO with it (videos for most of the podcast episodes are only available to our Patreon patrons); also, we did not examine any particular melody together, which is usually the point of any given episode.
But for Kay and Tom, there was just too much to discuss about the episode for us to instead spend time examining a melody. (BTW, we have plans to examine some of the song melodies from "Subspace Rhapsody" in future episodes with other guest composers.)
Definitely let us know who you think would be a good composer or songwriter guest, either for just an interview, or to explore a melody together, and thank you again--SO MUCH!--for your kind support!
@@MelodyPodcast Thanks so much for sharing this with us fans of Star Trek. I know nothing about music, but as Tom and Kay stated, they wanted to make the viewers cry. I confess this episode had me in tears. I hope they receive an Emmy for the music they created. Thanks again for sharing!
Thank you, Teggie! Your comment means a lot to me, and I've passed your kind words on to Tom and Kay!
When I first heard about this Star Trek, the musical, I thought it was the most preposterous of ideas. Then, there was so much UA-cam about it, I, like the Klingons said”Aaarrrraaahhhh” and jumped into it. Wow! It is so good. So well done. The score and lyrics and totally in a strange new realm and it is beautiful . Thank you!
Thank you, Mary! That was Arthur's original fear before watching the episode, but music and Star Trek ARE two of his favorite things, so he jumped in to celebrate it on August 3rd when it premiered. Didn't Tom and Kay do a fantastic job? (and we've passed your compliments on to them both!)
This episode was fabulous!! Usually tv musicals are not interesting for me.....but this (I just watched it) was remarkable.....the quality/lyrics of the music was so unique.....SO many of those songs are stand alone quality....I loved it!! The cast have such incredible talent......and the Klingons were hysterical 😂
Realizing we didn't reply back when you submitted this comment! Our bad! But we did share your comment with Kay and Tom right away. Thank you!
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That episode needs to be made into a Broadway Musucal! I would buy tickets to that!
I loved this interview! This episode of Startrek, Strange New Worlds was my favorite this season. The songwriting was so well done and clever. The actors did such a great job. I loved hearing the backstory.
Thank you, C S! We appreciate you taking the time to let us know that you enjoyed and appreciated the interview. We feel that Kay and Tom deserve so much praise and celebration for the wonderful gift to Star Trek fans that is "Subspace Rhapsody"! (We'll pass along your compliments to them as well!)
This is amazing....so excited you got to share the behind the scenes with the world!
Thank you! It was an honor and a joy to do it! Hmmm. Know any other composers or songwriters who might want to be on the podcast?
This was an amazing interview! This musical episode was Everything for me as a Trekkie and a musician ! Thank you so much!🖖🏽
I completely agree! It happened to come out on my birthday, and I had a small party for viewing the episode. (I had even planned green "Orion Hurricane" drinks, but those didn't happen -- just wine!) The show was enjoyed by all.
I just found this interview and thank you for getting this all “on the record” for prosperity. Not only because it came out of Covid but because it was a groundbreaking Star Trek episode AND the songs were Amazing! I smiled the whole interview. THANKS
Thanks so much for this wonderful interview! I've been wondering about the people who wrote the songs for this fabulous episode, but everyone said they couldn't interview Kay and Tom because of the actors' strike. I don't know how you managed to do it when everyone else said it couldn't be done, but I was thrilled to meet them and to hear just how seriously they took it. Great job on a fabulous episode!
Thank you, Cora! The interview as truly a pleasure and I appreciate your feedback so much!
Regarding why we got to do the interview: As "just" a podcaster talking "just" about the process of writing the songs, Tom and Kay could be interviewed here because they were not discussing specifically WRITING (other than giving a shoutout to the writers) or ACTING (other than giving shoutouts to the actors). They were discussing SONGWRITING and music production. They were not crossing any lines.
They seemed to be truly delighted to finally have the chance to talk about their work, as circumstances had stalled them getting the attention they deserved right at the time when they were finally free to talk about it!
It makes me laugh, cry, sigh for my friends on the USS Enterprise! I LOVED IT!❤❤❤ Thank you so much! I broke and healed my heart! Thank you!
Thank you for your comment, Robin! I completely agree with the sentiment, and I've passed your comment on to Tom and Kay!
What a pleasure to see and hear from the composers of Subspace Rhapsody. What they've created is lyrically genius and for an old trekie the best thing in the genre for years. Probably one of the most memorable Treks ever🙂
We agree! Thank you for your comment, and we've shared it with Kay and Tom just in case they don't see it here on UA-cam.
I listen to the soundtrack every day! Thank you, GUYS!!!
Thank you for the comment! I've passed your compliment on to Kay and Tom!
Since the episode aired, I've been pining to find THIS EXACT INTERVIEW. As soon as the credits rolled, I began hunting. I needed more, and couldn't believe there wasn't already a comprehensive behind-the-scenes documentary on the making of every single scene. It was so deeply entertaining, so how could there not be?! Tom and Kay, this is pure *treasure*, hearing about your process, how it all unfolded, and I hope you realize how many people-even those of us who aren't exactly fans of musicals-experienced so much unanticipated joy while watching and re-watching this. Thank you so much for creating this thing. It will live on for generations of Star Trek fans to get pulled into.
Mia, thank you for your comment, and I have shared it with Tom and Kay. I felt exactly the same way when I finished watching "Subspace Rhapsody" and searched for the obviously necessary interview. I feel very honored that I got to be the person to create the first interview, and of course to share it with everyone. Best, Arthur
@@MelodyPodcast Arthur, you truly did this franchise and this fandom a great service by making this happen. The episode is still sinking in for a lot of people, and remains unseen by so many more future fans. Imo, this stands as a serious work of Star Trek art, and it was crucial to memorialize the process while memories are still fresh 💙. Thank you :)
I feel the same way Mia
I agree, Mia. The episode will always be a standout, just for the fact that it is a musical episode -- but they did it so WELL! And that's why I think this episode will end up being one of the top episodes of all time across all the different trek series. While it doesn't have a stand-out, stand-alone plot (like, say, "Inner Light" or "Far Beyond the Stars", for example), the episode shines for its own reasons. And again, thank you for your compliment about the interview. I'm honored to have gotten to do it, and very fortunate to have gotten to be the first.
OMG we need to see the Klingon Opera!!! alternative 💜🖖🏿🪐💫✨
When I heard the first time, that there would be a musical episode I was a little bit concerned. But for me it turned out this episode was a masterpiece. I was really wondering what people are able to create such an outstanding Star Trek episode. So this interview was such a pleasusre to watch. Thank you so much for the video. For me Kay Hanley and Tom Polce are geniuses! Maybe there is a chance to invite them to the german convention Fedcon. That would be a huge einrichment for the next Fedcon next year. Kind regards from Cologne, Germany 🤗
Thank you, Sven! I've passed your compliments and Fedcon suggestion on to Kay and Tom. And we agree that they're geniuses -- excellent melody makers and so creative and conscientous!
Sven, I felt the same way! Literally cringed. But since I have been a Star Trek fan since the first episode premiered in ‘66, I watched and smiled and laughed and felt so joyous through the whole thing. Hello from California. 👍
The music is absolutely fantastic and they should be so proud. I've been listening to the album at least once a day since the day it released. It's so fun and emotional! ❤ amazing job creating it!
Thank you, David, and we completely agree! We've shared your compliments with Kay and Tom!
You all did the most amazing job on this!!!
Ive been a Trekjunkie since I was 9, in 1968, & was also raised on a diet of movie musicals (have at least 50 memorized).
I am now addicted to "Subspace Rhapsody," memorized in in a few listenings. Cant get certain tunes out o my head.
Thank you!!! An incredible job, & fully validated in both Trekverse & MusicalVerse. (& thank Goddess Lin Miranda Manuel had nothing to with this, which I knew a dozen bars in!!!)
Words cannot express how much I luv this, & how perfect it was!
I love watching you both create the most fantastic episode I have ever seen...a whole new level... forever grateful... you created a completely new way of communicating!!!! Love every moment...thank you so much ❤❤❤
Thank you for sharing the compliment. We have passed it on to Tom and Kay!
Brilliant episode, both in the show and here on this podcast interview. Thank you!
I was one of those trekkies that refused to watch this episode after I saw it was a musical episode. My mind raced back to Ally McBeal's 2000 Christmas musical. I never watched the Buffy musical episode and I tried to just now . . . but the songs didn't leave any impressions.
When I finally watched Subspace Rhapsody, that song about keeping secrets had my arms tingling and hairs standing on its ends. There are only a couple of songs that have ever done that. Maurice White's I Miss You, Atlantic Star's Masterpiece and Howard Hewitt's Say Amen. Each time it happens, it takes several days to get those songs out of my mind so I could move on. I'm on day 3 now, darn it.
The vocal ranges of the actresses singing The Paradigm and Connection songs just blew me away.
Trekky loyalist will probably disapprove the episode due to breaking Star Trek tradition of serious tones and suspense, something established by TOS and followed by NG, Voyager, DS9 and even Enterprise. At the same time, changes are inevitable, not always for the better, but the challenge to break new ground persists. If I were to rate Subspace Rhapsody by its own merits, Star Trek tradition not withstanding, you two hit the ball right out of the galaxy. It really did break new ground.
I guess there isn't much more I can add except to say Thank you for the enjoyable experience.
Thank you, Hiroshi Sumida! I think if you look back at even TOS, there are many episodes that were played almost entirely for laughs. (Tribbles come to mind!) Thank you for sharing your reaction to the Secrets song. We will pass your comment on to Tom and Kay, and we truly appreciate you sharing your experience about the episode!
Absolutely astonishingly brilliant and relatable, so moving!!! All of the songs were so perfect for each character...
Our thought exactly. (And we passed on your sentiments to Tom and Kay.)
Thank the two of you for some truly amazing music. And in five weeks, with all the different singers! It is truly amazing what you accomplished.
Thank you for your comment, Katherine! We have shared your compliments with Tom and Kay!
Truly brilliant songwriting that fits the cast/characters so well. Thanks for this interview with Kay and Tom and for asking some of the questions that I've had since first hearing and seeing the episode. As a pianist, I would love to see "Subspace Rhapsody" available as a sheet music folio available for purchase.
Sabrina, thank you for your comment! I agree about the sheet music (and even have since asked Tom about it myself -- apparently there's "discussion happening" but that's all I know so far). There are some versions that folks have posted to MuseScore.com already, so you might start there and see what's out in the "fan-sheetmusic-verse".
Perfect interview! I loved the episode and immediately wanted to know about the songwriters. If these two don't get emmys then it's a travesty. They should be really proud of this work. I couldn't believe there would be Broadway quality songs for one ep of a tv show. Then to find out it happened in 5 weeks I'm astonished. They sound like a great fun team too.
Thank you for your response! We feel the same way about the episode and the Emmys! (And we passed your comment on to Tom and Kay.)
Excellent interview thank you! Thanks for doing the calculus. I believe you have solved for X in this musical equation!
Clever reply! I agree that their math here was impeccable!
Ah-ha! I was right. I thought there was a melody in I'm Ready that was basically inverted in I'm the X.
Ich hoffe es kommt eine CD , bisher leider nur als MP3 bei Amazon 😢
Das gesamte Album ist auf Streaming-Plattformen wie UA-cam Music verfügbar.
OMG this is so awesome! I love how Uhura's song starts with Gregorian chants!! That song is so touching, it tells such a story of how Uhura is grieving the loss of her family, and figuring out how to go on without everyone she loves, everyone who loves her. The lyrics showing that loss are so poetic and heartfelt. Boy does Celia sing it!! So good!! 💜🖖🏿🪐💫✨
It's been several weeks since I first saw the episode, and I still wake up many mornings with the songs in my head, and listen to it regularly. I really love how it allowed the actors to show their emotional range, face, body language, they really got to show their stuff in this episode.
I think the Pelia, Uhuru, and Spock singing in a specifically posed way, reminds me of a “Bohemian Rhapsody” pose minus one. Or, it’s an American Gothic pose plus one. 😂
Oh, that was absolutely a reference to Bohemian Rhapsody, and had us roaring when it happened! Thank you for your comment!
Excellent interview 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you, Brian!
songs were great
I was skeptical if they could pull it off. I worried it would be way too corny, even for Star Trek. But they pulled it off amazingly. It worked within the reality of the show and the songs were fantastic too.
Amazing they didn't show this on Will Wheaton's show. Such an incredible episode!
I know, right? It feels like a huge gaff that they completely missed the songwriters in the behind-the-scenes celebration about the episode.
@@MelodyPodcast You got it!
Great interview about one of my favorite Star Trek episodes ever. I noticed something in the grand finale and I wondered if it was put there as an easter egg for musicians. When the counter gets to 300 Uhura leaps out of her chair and the time signature changes from 3/4 to 4/4. My immediate thought was oh, they need 344, so that's 44 left to go, so Uhura's like "ok we need 4/4." I assumed that was a collaboration between the composers and the writers. I am crazy?
Cool observation, Richard! We've passed your question on to Tom and Kay, and we'll let you know what they have to say!
How cool
Thank you!
I was hoping for a cameo from Lyn Manuel Miranda and an homage to Let's Do The Timewarp Again!
Who orchestrated the vocals for the choral Star Trek theme? Love it! 5:13 And the orchestration! ❤️
We have passed your question along to Tom! Thank you for asking!
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Thank you, Steven!
This music is so amazing on so many levels! Thanks for spotlighting the composers!
Thank you! It really was a shame that they hadn't been highlighted and celebrated sooner!
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Right?
While they include instrumental versions in the album release?
Hey, Tony! We have passed your question on to Tom and Kay -- but we wanted to be sure you are aware that all the songs are available on the streaming platforms for you to listen to.
Do you know if Lakshore Records is ever going to release a CD of the soundtrack to Subspace Rhapsody? I tried emailing them and I never got an answer.
We know that you can listen to the music on the streaming platforms. Would you like us to ask Tom and Kay about an official CD release?
@@MelodyPodcast Yes PLEASE!!!!!!
it was a GREAT episode! (ignore the naysayers whom call themselves die hard trekies) THANK YOU!
It gets even better on repeated viewing. The acting is really spectacular -- Ethan Peck's song in engineering, his acting is heartbreaking. And all the subtle reactions, especially to the music happening...
@@MelodyPodcast yup, trimmed and posted all of them on my channel, I LOVE ALL OF THEM!
'twas one of those episodes where by the end you hit replay again \o/
@@WithmeVerissimusWhostoned I was like what the hell, did I just wake up in a parallel universe and hit restart on the 1st song, I confess :) lol, it was great, excellent, amazing, still listening!
I would like to here the story of I am the X...
Thank you, DJ. I've suggested a follow-up episode to cover questions that have come up that were not answered in this episode. Fingers crossed!
I love musicals, but TV Show musical numbers aren’t always the best. But in this case, every song was amazing and splendid. Congrats!
Ps: the Klingon got me good
Thank you for commenting! We've passed your compliments on to Kay and Tom, and we agree: the work they did was amazing and splendid!
@@MelodyPodcast thank you!! They deserve all the recognition
I would have given a Grammy Awards to everyone... But I'm just an X.
We've passed your comment on to Tom and Kay. Thank you!
The worst, most ridiculous, most unwanted episode of star trek ever!! This episode was the final straw, I no longer watch this train wreck !!!! Please cancel this show!
Hey, Russel. I'm sorry you didn't like the episode. I enjoy it more and more each time I watch it, and I hope the show runs many seasons more. I also very much hope you find a new show that you love and that will bring you enjoyment.
Boohoo, baby did not like a new toy in the box. Grow up!
Trouble is pratt man, SNW is childish rubbish only fit for lower Intelligence viewers, the show is a p.ss take not only of star trek, but sci in general. @@eddiemendez1647
An extraordinary job of composition for a monumental challenge that you guys had to overcome. Superbly done and splendidly executed. The whole episode was an absolute joy. The whole world should share in this whimsical extravaganza!
Jay, thank you for you comment, and I have shared it with Tom and Kay. I am in complete agreement about "Subspace Rhapsody"! - Best, Arthur
I love the sound track! My Trek friends and I love it, play it alot, and congratulations to the songwriters because the soundtrack is charting on the music charts! 💜🖖🏿🪐💫✨
Thank you for your comments, Bess! We'll be sure to let Kay and Tom know to see them! We agree on all counts!