Seeing this and trying to comprehend the scale of our universe... while crying in the shower or on my way to work. Man, something has gone terribly wrong in the way we humans do things. I think Star Trek is on to something with the way society should work in relation to human nature.
@@tabularasa0606what? Dude politics ruin everything and everyone!!! We need a tecnocratic society rigth now! No more Biden, Trump, Putin, Xi xinping or whatever you want to name...
I will fight, kill, go to prison and/or die fighting against that. It is going to be a very long time, hundreds, perhaps thousands of years, before free people will allow that to happen. Don't forget, there is no freedom in human society in Star Trek; those people are not free people. Come up with a utopia that allows people to retain their freedom. Star Trek ain't it. Good show, good movies. Very entertaining. Seen every single episode, of all the series, multiple times, and would watch again. But there is no way I would ever allow that society to happen in real life.
Try playing Elite: Dangerous. Of course it is not a real representation of the Milky Way (they only built the surroundings of our solar system by hand and generated the rest) but you will get an impression of what "huge" really means.
YEAH I TOTALLY AGREE ACTUALLY IT SHOULD BE CONTINUED AND,IN A VOLUMED SET THAT YOU CAN SELL IN MAYBE SOME KIND OF DOWNLOADABLE SOFTWARE OR ON BLU-RAY FORMAT DISCS
Agreed! This was the best overview of sci-fi system positions I've seen. And to the creator, I have one thing to say... I certainly got time for an extensive video on this subject.
I know the feeling. Earth seems huge on a personal level, but is only a grain of sand in the scale of the Solar System. And then the Solar System is lost in a sea of 200 Billion suns which make up the Milky Way galaxy. Then, the Milky Way is a tiny blur amongst the Billions of known galaxies in the known universe. 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯
@@brunocaruso6007 I like the quotes around the word "fantasy." The Great Unknown may be full of things we tiny humans will tend to mock if revealed before we are ready. 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯
@@Rick_Samuec No, they ARE real places. Wolf 359 for example is an actual star actually named Wolf 359. The Delta quadrant is it's actual real name. The Alpha quadrant is it's actual real name. Alpha Centauri is a real place. As is the Barnard Star, and Vega. Gene Roddenberry prided himself on his scientific accuracy. There is no reason to invent these places. They exist. whether there are aliens living at these destinations is highly unlikely, in fact near impossible in most cases, but they are actual real places. There are 400 billion stars in the galaxy with a potential 4 trillion or more planets, and it is estimated by HabCat that only 17129 of them are habitable.
They ARE real places, all except for Bajor, all the other ones do really exist. There is no reason to make up fictional stars when real star names can be used. It isn't as though they are going to file a protest for defaming them.
@@FablestoneSeries I'm offended on behalf of the possible inhabitants of those star systems for our appropriation of their planets and moons in fiction
Had no idea that the Dune worlds were so close to Earth and so close to each other. I figured they could even be in separate galaxies, considering how travel is done in that universe.
If Spice is used for FTL then they would have had to get to Arrakis the slow way (generation ship maybe?) first time around, which limits the distance?
@@TheCaffeineKidthe spice is only used for Navigators plot a course. Their ships still have FTL drives like other sci fi, but before the Butlerian Jihad mankind used A.I. super computers for navigation instead of the Navigators.
That makes the fact that Earth is a mere memory at this point in Dune even more interesting, as most telescopes would literally be able to see Sol from places like Caladan and Geidi Prime.
@@prozacjunkie112 I love Dune, I also almost hate it. "Oh no we created a race of sentient slave machines and the rebelled we better not do that again; so anyway I mutated these humans into practical tools/machines so we can enslave them."
I feel like I could watch an hour long video on this topic. Was surprised it was so short! The animations really help to put it in perspective, nice job!
I would watch an entire series, progressively widening out from Sol, through the local group, until we start to hit the unnamed masses of stars just in our part of the galaxy!
I’d love for someone to create an interactive Star map online that ppl could add locations from sci-fi stories like this. I’d spend hours looking at that!
Utterly, utterly fantastic - the way that astronomy is usually taught, it takes place in a sort of never-never land - meanwhile, our most popular media franchises drop references to these real places that almost no one ever thinks to put on a map! YOU HAVE FIXED THIS. Sharing this with all our students.
@@OverviewEffekt Greetings. If you ever make a full stellar map of Star Trek, take into account the website Memory Alpha, where every thing mentioned in Star Trek has an article. There are a bunch of stars to add: Capella, Altair, Rigel...
Epsilon Eridani: also the location of Reach in the Halo series. The fact that a hyper advanced alien race couldn't immediately spot the home system of humans 10.5 LY away after glassing reach really reinforces the vastness of space.
@@clumsydoperequired1355 Rocky from hail Mary is from 40 Eridani, a tri star system. Infact they are actually neighbours for Vulcans. IIRC, rockys planet Erid is the first planet that orbits 40 Eridani A while Vulcan is second planet that orbits 40 Eridani A. Epsilon Eridani is where Babylon 5 is built on. It is also where Bill from Bobiverse built his Skunkworks for the Bobiverse. It's so cool that sci-fi takes actual reference from real places.
That was more due to a misnomer, remember they thought Reach was humanity's home planet so they spent their time glassing the planet and stripping it for Forerunner artifacts before Regret moved onto Sol and promptly went "oh sh*t! More humans!"
I am just blown away not only by the animation, but the style itself allows better ease of access to understanding the information. It's so much better to see it all in 3 dimensions and interacting with each other visually. Fantastic job!
The crazy thing is that as a child I always thought they travel the entire universe in Star Trek, just to realize as an adult, they've not even managed to leave our own galaxy and even of that galaxy they only know about a quarter in detail. Now consider the possibilities with billions of other galaxies out there.
They only know a quarter but they haven't even traveled that far except for some special circumstances like the ent going to the galactic core and voyager getting flung across etc
I attempted to triangulate the position of B'hava'el (Bajor) from the three nearest real stars on the Star Trek star charts that are actually in roughly the same direction from Earth (Omega Piscium, Capella and Alpha Trianguli). The only real star I found that was in the F-G-K spectral range, was single, was more than a billion years old and less than a thousand lightyears away, was 64 Piscium, at 76 light years with one and a quarter the mass and radius of the sun. However Star Trek beta canon tells us that Bajor is within the Beta-Ursae sector block, and according to the map Beta Ursae (Majoris) is also near by, however Beta-Ursae Majoris is actually in the direction of the previous stars from the perspective of Earth (it wouldn't be anywhere near where it was placed) in fact all of those stars should more or less be on or near the axis that defines the border between Alpha and Beta Quadrant. That said there is a star near Beta Ursae Majoris which would be a perfect B'hava'el and that would be 47 Ursae Majoris, which is a 6 Billion year old G1V star with slightly more mass and radius than our sun, is 45 light years away, and has several confirmed planets and seems to have the very rare planet arrangement that our system does.
This is why Star Wars just began with "Long ago in a Galaxy far away..." so that they weren't tied to any actual reality. Not as interesting, but far easier to lay down a setting!
This was terrific! I had no idea that the Dune universe was so "close." For the next video: Andoria, Tellar, Trantor, Terminus, the Ringworld, and the Puppeteer homeworlds.
From the times they mention for sub-light travel (9 months for the travel between earth and Geidi Prime), you get that the Dream Voyager must have travelled at ~99.93% light speed to get a travel time of 9 months without the Holtzman drive..
I was surprised at how small and nearby everything was. I would love another one of these that includes prominent locations from the Stargate Universe, including Stargate Atlantis.
@@merendell Atlantis was in "the Pegasus galaxy". There are two small Pegasus galaxies orbiting the Andromeda galaxy, and two extremely small Pegasus galaxies orbiting our galaxy. They don't say which one it is. Given the episode where they lay stargates between the galaxies, I'm sure it is one orbiting the Milky Way. Technically, Pegasus III and IV were discovered after Stargate aired, but I'm sure their greater technology and knowledge would have found them earlier and they would have had the same naming convention.
@@spejic1 the one from stargate is the Pegasus DIG galaxy. it was discovered like 80 years ago, way before stargate aired. canon explanation was that daniel found the glyphs for the adress so they could locate the starsystem within its galaxy.
"I was surprised at how small and nearby everything was." Mostly, authors use real names, which means they're of systems visible from Earth, and thus close to it. Or make up their own names, without specifying exact locations relative to Earth.
Tau Ceti was also mentioned in my favorite book series of all time: The Expanse. It was the original target star system for the Mormons' 100 year voyage aboard the Nauvoo
@@iliketrains0pwned I don't remember the show covering it, and I've only read the last three where the show left off, but did they ever find a ring to get there? Or just another star system to do their thing?
@@logicplague I've read and watched everything. The books do mention that they started to map which stars the gates go to, but they never name any known star systems
@@logicplague On another note though, the Mormons are WAY less pissed than I expected. One of the architects for the Nauvoo was super happy that "God's plan took over". They built it to (maybe) reach one habitable system. But instead it opened the doors to 1372 of them.
I did not realize that "Deep" Space 9 was so close to Sol that a map of the whole galaxy couldn't distinguish them. I had assumed it was a good portion of the quadrant away. Puts an even sharper edge on Kira in the first episode cutting down Bashir's "frontier medicine" fantasies with "this wilderness is my home".
Yea that doesn’t seem like it could be right I thought they were way out there. I thought they would have been more than 1/2 way to the delta quadrant than earth.
Most of "Federation space" is completely unexplored. The 2D maps are, well, 2D, and only show the broad boundaries of the farthest Federation planets. Hell, even by TNG era, the vast majority of stories take place within Federation space with planets and cultures that the Federation had never seen before. It being "close" to Sol doesn't mean much. Presumably the entire Metron empire is in Federation space but still completely unknown to the Federation.
Epsilon Eridani, is also home to Reach in Halo Lore, in the lore humanity was trying extremely hard to hide the location of the Sol system from the covenant, a relatively small 10 ly away. Transit for Space Ships in Halo lore takes months with with the advanced slip space drives. Excellent video, would have loved a deep dive if you ever do that, been a fan of space forever and loved every moment exploring it in Elite Dangerous and hope to see more content like this from you.
Most of the planets inhabited by humans are within 50-100 light years of Sol. Also there is some very strange positions for more inhabited and less inhabited worlds, some "outer colonies" are very close to earth, and some more developed worlds are much farther away, probably due to how space colonies were propagated and which routes were deemed easier to travel.
What I found super interesting is that all of those franchises end up taking place in such a galactically small area. In my head, I always thought of them being flung out all over the place. 😁
@@Eyes-of-Horus There are plenty of Sci-fi series that move outside the Galaxy. Doctor Who comes to mind right away. We don't actually know where all the gates in the Expanse go also. Lots of books. Heck all of Star Wars takes place outside our galaxy.
@@Jake-cm9jjeven then in the old EU Star Wars did deal with other galaxies. Hell, the Galactic Empire did occasionally move into its nearby dwarf galaxies and at one point two separate extra galactic invasions happened.
hence my fascination with the worlds of honor, and to a lesser extent, the worlds of robotech, the scale is unimaginable...john ringos universes are this close though, close not really accurate of course!!
Honestly, I'd an hour long extended version of this video. And, probably even return multiple times just because this is such cool context for some incredibly neat stories.
Now if you did a Stargate map. I would be thrilled. One with one color for stargates Earth has actually visited, one color for known stargates that Earth has not visited, and finally a map of systems that did not have stargates visited by humanity's Prometheus and Daedalus ships.
I dont think people realize, we humans havent actually mapped that many stars around us. A few thousand say, maybe 20,000 out of what? 100 billion in the Milky Way. LOL. By the way, what about Stargate Destiny? didnt they leave the Milky Way, or was that just the final episode? That show shouldnt of been cancelled, it was PERFECT
So out of the 20,000 we have mapped so far. I wonder how many would have worlds with Stargates? *grins* And yes you are right Destiny I am not sure what Galaxy it is in. But Atlantis is in the Pegasus Galaxy and we kind of get an idea of where Atlantis is there when they show some of the maps regarding how the Wraith defeated the Ancients. But all this being said, it is of course fictional and so many places have simply been made up and have no relation to actual discovered systems. Still fun to speculate :)
@@onegemini420 I wish Destiny had gotten a 3rd season. Honestly, I never watched any Stargate except for Stargate Destiny. LOL. Im one of the fringe few. Be well, happy week to you
@@Eyes-of-Horus That was retconned for the show. Abydos, the name of the planet that the movie takes place on, is within the Milky Way. The entire Gould empire is within the milky way. Though Stargates definitely have the capability of traveling out of the galaxy if given extra power beyond their standard power sources....they are designed to be modular in that way, the dialing system allows them to travel literally anywhere in the universe with enough power attached. The standard power source of the gates does restrict them to one galaxy travel though.
I was so happy when you mentioned Project Hail Mary. It’s one of my favorite sci-fi books. Humanity finds a problem, bands together to solve it, goes to another solar system, and learns from aliens. To me it’s a story about one many quest to save not only humanity but himself and his alien friend. It’s a story about hope and discovery and overcoming seemingly insurmountable problems while humanity bands together. Humanity working together to save everyone doesn’t feel too unrealistic. Everyone doesn’t cooperate flawlessly and no one is perfect but in the end they manage to get it done despite their flaws and disagreements.
Agreed! I love Andy Weir's works for how they're rooted in hard science-fiction (fewer replicators and more burning hydrazine to make water), but even with more fantastical elements as are included in Project Hail Mary, there's rational scientific method in operating around those elements.
Indeed, pr hail mary is hands down one of the best sf books of the decade. I would recommend reading the revelation space series by alastair reynolds as well. They are still very hard sf books but take more liberty in the time scale department and can explore societal development over the time scales interstellar round trips take.
Yes Project Hail Mary is an excellent book, I'm looking forward to the movie, but there is another author that hit many of the systems discussed, in this video, in his series of books, the Bobiverse series by Dennis E. Taylor. After I reread Project Hail Mary I always move on to the Bobiverse books.
@@mechuck101 another author that uses real star systems is alastair reynolds with his revelation space series. Also: THERE‘S A MOVIE FOR PR HAIL MARY COMMING?! WHEN? I WANT!
Interstellar travel in the Stargate series is insane, not referring to the stargate itself but to FTL travel, ships have superconductive materials along the lines of dilithium crystals but the energy produced is near unfathomable because it allows FTL travel between galaxies in mere weeks.
In the novel _Endymion_ interstellar ships accelerate at such a high rate that the occupants are reduced to a sticky paste, but thanks to a symbiont known as a cruciform they are reassembled and awaken within three days afterwards. Sometimes they suffer brain damage and other nasty side effects. Or can't be revived at all.
Well, the trick is that they in most franchises found a way to bend the empty space between the stars for the ship, with artificial wormholes or warp fields etc, so that they need less energy than a sun to get to Alpha C
@@johnpaulporrelli6208 If I'm not mistaken, just before that, they created an explosion INSIDE a hyperspace tunnel to trap and destroy their enemy. The Asgard were just adorable grey space wizards and I'm glad they're on our side.
Epsilon Eridani also features heavily in the backstory (and is the setting of a prequel game) of the Halo series: It's the location of Reach (ε Eridani II), the first human colony world to fall to the Covenant. Funny enough, I built my first outpost on that exact planet in Starfield, and plan on building my second one on the planet that Babylon 5 orbits (ε Eridani III).
Harvest was the first to fall to the Covenant though. In fact, with the timeline of Reach and the original trilogy only taking a few months, it may have been the final human planet to fall before the Covenant was defeated at the Battle of Installation 00. (assuming you don't count earth or the lunar colonies on that list)
In regard to Star Trek lore maps, I find the maps given in the Str Trek Concordance by Bjo Trimble of 1969 and 1976 editions to be more accurate as it gives the shapes of Federation, Klingon, Romulan, Tholian, and Gorn space within the Milky Way Galaxy, plus there is a map of the local star group where Sol is at the center and the nearby stars are located, based off of a real star chart. It locates the star systems of the home worlds of the five founding members of the Federation.
Altair IV from Forbidden Planet, orbiting Alpha Aquilae. It deserves a mention as one of the iconic settings of 1950's Sci-Fi, especially as being among the first 20th Century adaptations of The Tempest.
I think Tau Ceti was the first destination for a KF jump drive test in Battletech. It has a lot of well known stars. I also often wondred where Red Dwarf ended up after 3 million years, I never found any info on what direction it was facing when the drive plate blew.
Vega is also a Draconis Combine world, Canopus, minus sandworms, is the capital of a Periphery state that bears its name, the Pleiades Cluster is out near Taurian space ...there are a lot of references to actual stars in Battletech, though the creators didn't always have them in quite the right place on the map.
@@SirThoreth BattleTech's galactic map has undergone a few dramatic iterations. At least in the very earliest editions from decades ago. A lot stars moved around (over and over again) before they settled into the configurations people would recognize today. The famous capital worlds don't move around much, but all the little fillers have been swept around (over time) into very different configurations.
Im not a big fan of Star Trek but this map you created is one of the most pleasing to the eye and easy to point your finger on the position. Usually People show black 2D maps of the Milky Way and it is really difficult to focus on them. Well done.
In the Traveller RPG, "known space" is incomprehensibly immense, with tens of thousands of star systems mapped and cataloged, probably over 100,000. There's even an interactive map online that shows it all. And when you pull back to show known space on the scale of the whole Milky Way, it's just a tiny postage stamp of an area. That's why it always cracks me up when sci fi characters are like "blah blah the entire Galaxy" etc. Or if that's not enough, the evil empire finishes conquering one whole galaxy and starts conquering other ones. I always wonder if the writers have any idea how big these things are.
@@OverviewEffekt Current Star Trek does that a lot. Picard's career is now defined by "saving the galaxy multiple times". Star Trek Discovery has seasons where the galaxy constantly needs to be saved. It ruins the idea of scale.
That's one thing im impressed with from James Cameron: he does his homework. Im not sure if it was him who made the Alien franchise realistic, but it follows the same pattern as Avatar, using real places and plausible tech... except the "tachyon drive" but taychons were so hot back then...@@TheTattorack
@@OverviewEffekt There's a scene in B5, where Londo and Morden are dividing up the galaxy, that is a particularly stupid example of FX people not understanding the scale of the Milky Way.
I think it is possible for one empire to conquer one whole galaxy, it is just not fast process, because with every conquered system it can get more and more resources, eventually conquering thousands systems at once, basically they just need to scale empire to be large enouth to do it
Pretty nice! Really hope an update covers other major universes like StarGate, BattleTech, HALO, Battlestar Galactica, Foundation, Mass Effect, etc. :)
long, long ago, in a gaming world far, far away, there was a game called "Outpost". Hard to find today, but it was a super realistic game where a colony ship carried the player to the planet/star of their choosing. Based on "real" scientific data and scientist speculation about what conditions on those planets would be like, the colonists had to use the available resources to build a colony and .... well... survive. This was back in the 90's, and I've not been able to find it available today. THe follow-on "Outpost 2" was higher on the graphics scale, but was less graphically satisfying. New sub here, thoroughly enjoyed this.
This is amazing! A few months ago, I binge watched all of Voyager, and I really wanted to learn which route they took to get back to the Earth. I was surprised to see just some old, inaccurate 2D maps. What you've done here is exactly the type of thing I was looking for.
I agree. I wish the producers decided to make a map of the Delta quadrant before they started writing episodes to keep things consistent. The few times they did this was when Voyager passed the "Nekrit Expanse" and we no longer saw the Kazon anymore since their territory was too far away. They should have done this more often. Also at some point, maybe season 6, Voyager would have left the Delta quadrant and arrived in the Beta. I wish they brought this up.
I have ALWAYS wondered where in real space these places are. Thanks so much for making this video. Please do more videos on this very interesting topic.
Nice video, worth mentioning, about Epsilon Eridani [3:26], it plays also a part in the HALO lore, the planet Reach (Epsilon Eridani II) was the military center of the UEG/ UNSC (United Earth Government), and where the Master Chief and the other Spartan II were trained.
It's a popular system. It's also the location of the Yellowstone and Glitter Band/Rust Belt Demarchist civilizations in Alastair Reynolds' Revelation Space series.
Please do more of this specific awesome content. It’s so cool to see where these stories take place. I did some searching and couldn’t find anything like what you’ve done here. Nice work.
These star systems are a lot closer than I thought. I watch Star Trek and stars that are trillions of miles apart are flying past the Enterprise in seconds as it travels through space. And I have to ask, "Man, how fast is this thing going?" and "How far apart are these inhabited worlds?"
But you must know that at FTL speeds the whole Galaxy becomes a bright blur like a single headlight. And looking at it would be worse than X-rays. And there would be no other stars visible. Also, parts of Space are full of gravel.
fans have generally figured that the light streaks aren't actually caused by parallax from the movement so much as the light being bent and shifted by the warp bubble. of course IRL it was just a nifty visual effect to help sell the impression of speed.
The nature of the light streaks has never been directly addressed in canon, to my knowledge (haven't read many in-universe novels), but I like to think of them as stray bits of debris in interstellar space being thermally shocked by impact with the warp bubble, resulting in them glowing bright white as the warp bubble slides by
A lot of the Halo universe takes place around Epsilon Eridani. Later on, they venture outside the Milky Way all together to visit the ark. Would love to see the locations of the rings and all that, in something like this!
This was fantastic. Excellent graphics. Very clear demonstration of the triaxial universe. It ended all too soon. Been a while since a UA-cam vid left me wanting more. Looking forward to whatever else you add. As others have commented, you have tapped into a subject with untold breadth and depth. It is only limited by how far you want to follow down the rabbit hole.
I was sad it was over, this was definitely the best way to visualize distances and locations I've seen! Plenty of videos that have all the sizes next to each other or some sort of ruler to show distance, but this was more effective. I would have liked for the outtro part to continue on sort of orbiting all of the star locations for longer to look at them before the video cuts off
I'd love to see this video with a running timeline of the events of the 1999 videogame Freespace 2. The mission briefings narrated by Robert Loggia are etched into my core memories. Systems such as Deneb, Gamma Draconis, Epislon Pegasi, and Capella would be incredible to be seen in this animation style, as 3D representations. Barring that insane one-off request, this was a fantastic video that scratched my Sci-Fi map loving itch. Thank you!
I am so in love with the storyline of that game. Fantastic unfold of events and incredible voice acting from the late Mr. Robert Loggia (my favorite general of all time) and everyone else involved. Yes, I’d also love to see an animated narration of the events in Freespace 2.
@@chriseash6497 I still find the destruction of Gallatea more impactful. Mainly because the dry response of the dispatch. "Gallatea is lost. Mission failed. Report for debriefing." Its harowing. (I repeated the mission several times just because of that, before realizing its impossible mission to save her.)
The amount of work that has gone into this video is literally astronomical. Thank you so much for answering so many questions I have had my entire life. Brilliant ❤🖖🏼✨
That was amazing! One thing was sad at was that at the very end we didn't get a zoom-out to see how close or spread-out the systems were in the whole galaxy context
Thanks for this, really appreciate that it was done in 3D, it put things right into our very human's very, very tiny perspective and very humbling too!
I loved this. One of my favorite book trilogies is the Bobiverse series (the first book is We are Legion We are Bob). They actually list several of those star systems and some others as they expand across the universe. It would be interesting to see a second version of this map related to that book series!
@@biltrex yeah the author is a big sci-fi fan. He lists so many such systems. Epsilon Eridani where Bill builds his Skunkwork is where Babylon 5 was built. 40 Eridani,iirc, is where Howard find the twin planets and name them Romulus and Vulcan aptly. It's so cool to see so many sci-fi references in that book.
That was really cool. I love sci-fi flicks, etc., and knew that some were based on reality, like Contact, etc., but was blown away to find out that the settings for Aliens and Dune are real star systems. Way cool!! Kudos for taking the time to put all that together!
I am in love. This is for the total science geek who is too mathematically and spatially challenged to actually map this out in more than two dimensions. Thank you!
I’d be curious if you could map the real life locations mentioned in the Honor Harrington series - many of the stars mentioned are just “out there somewhere” and fictitious, but some are quite real: Epsilon Eridani is referenced (as the sight of a planet-wide massacre that led to serious restrictions on the use of weapons of mass destruction against planetary surfaces from space), and Sigma Draconis actually plays a pretty important role (it’s the home star system of the main character’s mother, and the closer-to-earth end of a wormhole that connects the main character’s home system to an interstellar polity centered on earth).
I love maps.. 😅 Especially star maps, dont know why they are just fun and interesting. I remember having a space app that let you move around the galaxy and tell you about the stars you select and I just loved moving around and seeing all the real stars in Star Trek and Dr Who and the like. So fun. haha
I needed a whole hour of this . Would have loved to see star locations from Legend of the Galactic Heroes , Phantasy Star IV (Algol) , other places in ST and B5 . Stargate etc .
Multiple planets listed here were also settings in the Hyperion sci-fi book series. If you like sci-fi and haven't read it please do so! Barnard's star, tau ceti, and the Opheuchi system all play a big part!
Good call. Those books weren't really for me, but they are well written. I have this with a lot of sci-fi where I like the concept OR the story, but rarely both. Hard to explain, but those like Hyperion series keep me interested even if half of me is wishing for more.
I always imagined DS9 as very, very far from earth. I'm surprised to see it so close. This was a great video. I hope to see more from you dude. Awesome logo by the way!
@@RedParsley Federation space straddles both the Alpha and Beta quadrants (as does Earth's solar system), and is about equal in both. The Alpha quadrant is primarily shared with the Romulans and Klingons, and the Beta quadrant is primarily shared with the Cardassians.
I really want more of this. I see last uploads were a few years ago. This is quality content and I wish I can see more from this channel! Very interesting
I use Audible for many Sci Fi space operas and I loved “Hail Mary” and I recall the popular “BOB” series also take place in that same system. Nice to see authors actually using stellar information. I love this map and will be using it and others you make to keep it “visual” in my minds eye.
hmm, dune canon says sol's location had been lost for a thousand years, and that arrakis was on the edge of a 10,000-human-world machine empire, so maybe not the star in the video, sounded plausible though!
@@brendenharris8858That’s not correct. The appendixes in the first Dune cover the Commission of Ecumenical Translators (CET) that met on Earth and created the Orange Catholic Bible to solve generations of religious disputes.
A scale animation of the 40K setting would be cool. It always seemed odd that they crammed so many different races into one galaxy, until I remember how big galaxies actually are..
Remember that there are more species out there in the 40k universe than the Humans, the Aeldari, the Orks, the Necrons, the Tyranids and the T'au. There's also the Jokaero, the Kroot, the Hrud and many others just to mention just a few.
Over 1 million human worlds alone. I love that scale. Because you can't imagine it. Worlds are lost and recaptured from the aliens all the time making it seem insignificant to the grand scheme of things.
Gosh I enjoyed that. I also had already read Hail Mary, and it was a superb book. One of my fave authors now, along with Kim Stanley Robinson. As a space fan, but not knowing enough to earn the status of nerd, I can say I loved this video's style and specificity, especially since it meant I didn't have to do any of the work. I also enjoyed the humour. Great work. Instant subscribe. I hope you stay with us long enough to do more and don't get bummed at how long it takes to gather an audience.
What i love about KSR is that he does not just inject hope to the genre (Red/Green/Blue Mars), but he also is a superb teller of near future tales that encapsulate the dangers and the potentials of solving our current Dyson Filter era.
@@mundanestuff Absolutely worth the effort. You can also get it as an audio book and my copy was word for word the book, not an adaptation. Is a superb read.
@@spaceman9599 Exactly. His earlier books didn't do that, but he clearly has his sights set on 'if I'm going to bother writing a book, let's tackle the climate elephant in the room'. My first book of his was 'Ministry for the Future'. Recommended to me by an ecologist. Superb book that outlines one way to get us out of the climate catastrophe we are in at the moment. Was such a good book I even got a copy made of tree. (was in a book swap nook so didn't cost me anything except a book. Winner winner, dinner of chicken.)
Omg... I loved the video... I would live to see a full in depth star system video based on such sci fi novels movies and place it into a single video... Even if it were to be hours long... I would completely watch it... Love the video ❤
Thanks, I really appreciate your video. For the first time, your 3-D model made accessible to me the scale of our galaxy and the locations of these fav sci-fi references. I'd love to see more! My mind and imagination are blown!
This is...amazing. like...im having a hard time wording it. Its crazy that everything happens in such a small patch around our star system. Really puts into perspective just how huge something like warhammer 40k is. Where humanity spans so much of the entire galaxy. Also i had no idea most of the well known franchises and sci fi works took place so "close" to home. I always imagined them as being farther.
They happen close to home because they're using the names of actual stars, which by definition, have to be nearby so we can see them and name them. Star Wars (for example) happens on Tattoine which according to cannon is in a galaxy far, far away. We can't tell you where because we can't see individual stars in most other galaxies and therefore we can't name them.
This was really fascinating! Excellent video. I would be interested in more of the sci-fi novel locations - one that comes to mind immediately is the Honor Harrington series, by David Weber. It's all over the place and would be cool to see it laid out visually.
Looking through the Honorverse wiki it doesn't look like many of the systems map to real stars. The majority seem to be "a star x lightyears from another star". So, following the chain to see if each does or could map to a real star could be a massive undertaking.
Very interesting about Dune, I had no idea. Granted it has been MANY years since I read the books but I have to no memory of any mention of Sol, or the real life Star locations of the worlds. Like so many others, I wish to voice the opinion that this video needs... well MORE, this video needs sequels, and plenty of them :)
I've been recently reading the series (I read the original years ago but never got around to the sequels), currently on God Emperor of Dune and there is no mention thus far of any real life systems. The only time earth ever even comes up is via the twins and references to a long forgotten homeworld. So yeah I had no idea Caladan and Geidi Prime were so close. I'm pretty sure I've passed through both of those systems in Elite Dangerous. Never been to Canopus though, maybe I should pay a visit.
Great visualization! I wouldn't mind seeing the locations described in the Ringworld books in another/longer video - the Ring, the Puppeteer's planets and the colony systems. Maybe also the Pak homeworld if you expand to full galaxy... Cheers :)
Like I see many other people say, this video was fantastic. Great pacing, great use of the map. My only regret is that it ended faster than I expected because it was so well done!
2 things, zeta is also the home of the aliens in fallout, and star trek online has a much more detailed star map, and it's interactive, you can fly the enterprise so thousands of these locations. Wolf 359 is my favorite, there is a ton of wreckage from the battle and a huge, awesome holographic memorial shrine.
Very nice, in a related sci fi universe, I have been matching the closest stars with those of Warhammer 40k, this is what I found GJ699b is Vorlese GJ 699b is Cthonia Wolf 1061C is Inwit Alpha Centaurys unnamed planet is Proxima Majoris (exterminatus during HH) Ross 128b is Heta-Gladius Luyten b is Necromunda LHS 1140 b is Ullanor/Armageddon Kepler-452b is Molech
Such a great video! Would love for you to do a similar 3d representation of all the starts visited by the replicants in the Bobbiverse series written by Dennis E. Taylor. Some of the stars mentioned in that series were highlighted in your video like Delta Pavonis and 40 Eridani, but it would be great to have a similar map to reference the next time I get lost in that book series.
"Space," it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mindbogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space. -- Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy
man thank you so much for doin gthis, i was so intrigued about this always but could never find the proper keywords to search for something like this. you literally answered all my ques regarding the space map for all the sci fi movies that i hold dear to me.
I would have loved to have notable worlds from Larry Niven's Known Space included. For instance Jinx (Sirius), We Made It (Procyon), Down (Luyten's Star?), Plateau (Tau Ceti), Canyon (p Eridani A), Kzin (61 Ursae Majoris), etc.
@@mikewuerth4218 Just to nitpick a bit, that's not entirely accurate. The Ringworld is not in the Known Space region, nor is Pak or the Fleet Of Worlds.
Awesome work! So looking at the Star Trek map, it would take about 15 days to get from Earth to DS9 at warp 9. Guessing at the size of the federation (from the top part of the map to where the bottom looks like) it looks like it would take around 60 days to get across. I’m surprised at how small it is in term of travel time, I thought it would be much bigger
Interestingly, if it were possible to travel at slightly below the speed of light, due to time dilation it would be possible to traverse the entire 100,000 light years of the galaxy in only a few seconds. However, time would have passed as normal for those at rest, so you’d essentially have traveled not only the vast distance but you’d be in the far future too.
@sharpe227 It is counterintuitive but it is true that, when traveling at relativistic speeds, time slows for the traveler relative to an observer at rest. The faster you are traveling relative to c, the slower time passes. However time passes as normal for those in their inertial frames of reference. The result is that you can traverse truly enormous distances in a very short period of time. Check out Special Relativity and Time Dilation in any good university physics book or even Wikipedia for more details. It is fascinating.
@@simonh10 Yeah this is actually portrayed in an episode of Stargate Atlantis really well, because one of the Alterran ships Hyperdrives had crapped out they continued from the Pegasus galaxy back to the milky way at like 99.99999% the speed of light, and therefore had been nearly frozen in time from their persepctive for 10,000 years, but when the main characters found them in modern day they had barely aged, so they got to meet the "Ancients" in person.
i love this video. I really like that you named different movies and books i havent seen in a long time but remember from childhood memories. And you named movies and books i just havent seen. It's always great to discover new scifi.
Maybe you could cover the events in video games? Not necessarily the actions of the player, but the journey of the lore of humans in that game. Like Mass Effect, Star Citizen, Star Field etc. And compare them to real life starmap you did here. Of course like films too.
I know in the game System Shock 2 (which is my all time favourite game) the ship you're aboard which is the first FTL capable ship visits Tau Ceti where all hell breaks loose.
Halo could be included. Although, I'm not sure how many planets or star systems in the Halo universe are real or based on something nearby. Considering Earth is in that universe, you'd think some planets or systems would at least be loosely based on real ones
I've been a sci-fi fan pretty much my whole life. I had NO idea so many of these places are actual star systems. I thought it was just stuff that was made up. Now I'd be mega impressed if you mapped out all the planets visited in Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis.
@@OverviewEffekt I write science fiction and fantasy and don't understand why so many people assume by default that all fiction is made up, so I share your disappointment. It is just lazy writing to make things up. The one star that i am most fascinated by, and of course the one I'm writing about, is 18Scorpii because it is the nearest star that is identical to ours. It is a near perfect twin to Sol. It is so identical to Sol that it is almost without question the first place humanity will colonize. Unfortunately it is 46 light years away and even with fusion rockets perpetually accelerating to sub light speeds it will take us 130 years to get there. There are 400 billion stars in the galaxy with a potential 4 trillion or more planets, and it is estimated by HabCat that only 17129 of them are habitable.
@@FablestoneSeries Knowing that space is extremely harsh and miserable, why stick to only "habitable" stars and planets? With the extreme high energy tech to traverse star systems, why bother living on planets when we can take them apart and construct more ideal habitats? Not like time is an issue since you could send something like a self-replicating probe centuries in advance to build it all. Not to mention the potential of cybernetic/genetic engineering that would expand the habitation profile. Eh, at least I imagine you'd find this interesting.
@@downloadableram2666 because all of that is pure science fantasy and not science fiction. The key problem with virtually ALL science fiction is that it ignores the energy constraints of these wondrous things we dream up. For example, as i'm sure you know, there is a rough blueprint and theory on paper on how we might one day build a warp drive, however it completely glosses over the fact in order to generate enough anti protons to sustain a warp bubble over a 600 meter sized ship for even just a few seconds, let alone an extended period of time would require all the energy contained in our sun. all of it. Zipping around the galaxy at faster than light speeds would require us to destroy most of the galaxy in the process. We may THINK like gods but we don't live in heaven. over the next century i think science is going to continue to run itself against this limitation time and time again. our eyes are metaphorically larger than our stomachs. Just cause we can build it doesn't mean we can power it.
@@downloadableram2666 Also... We could travel to Alpha Centauri, and live there, but why would you want to? There is no atmosphere on the planet there, it is tidally locked with an 11 day year. Bombarded by significant radiation, being that it is so close to its sun. Probably has no water. It would be a death sentence. Why when the expense and risk of space travel is so high would you travel anywhere that wasn't at least as good if not better than Earth? Why spend a trillion dollars to carve out a meager existence on a distant star where you'll never again be able to go outside? When you could travel an extra hundred years and travel to a planet identical to Earth? Given the choice I don't understand why we'd ever want to go to Alpha Centauri over 18Scorpii. It isn't even choice.
I liked To sleep in a Sea of Stars from Christopher Paolini. Most of the systems from their were already mentioned, but I liked that you could keep track of all systems there because there’s no unnecessary bloat with just wanting to have high numbers.
Seeing this and trying to comprehend the scale of our universe... while crying in the shower or on my way to work. Man, something has gone terribly wrong in the way we humans do things. I think Star Trek is on to something with the way society should work in relation to human nature.
It's called socialism.
@@tabularasa0606what? Dude politics ruin everything and everyone!!! We need a tecnocratic society rigth now! No more Biden, Trump, Putin, Xi xinping or whatever you want to name...
People like you are the problem who drag politics into everything.@@tabularasa0606
@@tabularasa0606and that's why star trek is stupid. You don't advance into the future with a ideology that has failed.
I will fight, kill, go to prison and/or die fighting against that. It is going to be a very long time, hundreds, perhaps thousands of years, before free people will allow that to happen. Don't forget, there is no freedom in human society in Star Trek; those people are not free people. Come up with a utopia that allows people to retain their freedom. Star Trek ain't it. Good show, good movies. Very entertaining. Seen every single episode, of all the series, multiple times, and would watch again. But there is no way I would ever allow that society to happen in real life.
What this taches me is that even in the fantastical world of sci-fi we're still living in a very small patch of a huge galaxy.
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT YOU CAN’T SAY IT TRUER THAN THAT
And our galaxy is only 1 among billions of others
I also didn’t expect DS9 to be this close to Sol.
Try playing Elite: Dangerous. Of course it is not a real representation of the Milky Way (they only built the surroundings of our solar system by hand and generated the rest) but you will get an impression of what "huge" really means.
@@ThePetaaaaaI don’t think it’s supposed to be, in most maps of Star Trek it’s way out there, thousands of light years from sol
This could have been an hour and I would have watched every second. Well done!
YEAH I TOTALLY AGREE ACTUALLY IT SHOULD BE CONTINUED AND,IN A VOLUMED SET THAT YOU CAN SELL IN MAYBE SOME KIND OF DOWNLOADABLE SOFTWARE OR ON BLU-RAY FORMAT DISCS
Same. It was over far too quickly for me. Really hoping for more of this.
Agreed! This was the best overview of sci-fi system positions I've seen. And to the creator, I have one thing to say... I certainly got time for an extensive video on this subject.
this could have been 2-3 hours and I would have kept watching..
6:40 ups already done :(
The sheer size of the universe compared to how “close” yet so incredibly far away these places are is just mindbending.
Do not worry. Jesus knows where it all is........ LMAO JK
With a warp drive everything seems so much smaller, don't they?
I know the feeling. Earth seems huge on a personal level, but is only a grain of sand in the scale of the Solar System. And then the Solar System is lost in a sea of 200 Billion suns which make up the Milky Way galaxy. Then, the Milky Way is a tiny blur amongst the Billions of known galaxies in the known universe.
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@@brunocaruso6007 I like the quotes around the word "fantasy." The Great Unknown may be full of things we tiny humans will tend to mock if revealed before we are ready.
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I never knew these were real places.
They aren’t. This video is just explaining where they would be irl
@@Rick_Samuec No, they ARE real places. Wolf 359 for example is an actual star actually named Wolf 359. The Delta quadrant is it's actual real name. The Alpha quadrant is it's actual real name. Alpha Centauri is a real place. As is the Barnard Star, and Vega. Gene Roddenberry prided himself on his scientific accuracy. There is no reason to invent these places. They exist. whether there are aliens living at these destinations is highly unlikely, in fact near impossible in most cases, but they are actual real places. There are 400 billion stars in the galaxy with a potential 4 trillion or more planets, and it is estimated by HabCat that only 17129 of them are habitable.
They ARE real places, all except for Bajor, all the other ones do really exist. There is no reason to make up fictional stars when real star names can be used. It isn't as though they are going to file a protest for defaming them.
@@FablestoneSeries I'm offended on behalf of the possible inhabitants of those star systems for our appropriation of their planets and moons in fiction
@@Rick_Samuec Did you even watch the video?
Had no idea that the Dune worlds were so close to Earth and so close to each other. I figured they could even be in separate galaxies, considering how travel is done in that universe.
If Spice is used for FTL then they would have had to get to Arrakis the slow way (generation ship maybe?) first time around, which limits the distance?
@@TheCaffeineKidthe spice is only used for Navigators plot a course. Their ships still have FTL drives like other sci fi, but before the Butlerian Jihad mankind used A.I. super computers for navigation instead of the Navigators.
That makes the fact that Earth is a mere memory at this point in Dune even more interesting, as most telescopes would literally be able to see Sol from places like Caladan and Geidi Prime.
@@prozacjunkie112 I love Dune, I also almost hate it. "Oh no we created a race of sentient slave machines and the rebelled we better not do that again; so anyway I mutated these humans into practical tools/machines so we can enslave them."
@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket I'm pretty sure the contradiction is intentional to the setting. It's not a universe full of entirely reasonable people.
I feel like I could watch an hour long video on this topic. Was surprised it was so short! The animations really help to put it in perspective, nice job!
I would watch an entire series, progressively widening out from Sol, through the local group, until we start to hit the unnamed masses of stars just in our part of the galaxy!
Yes. Make more.
I dont comment on videos often but i came here to suggest the same thing, longer video.
I think I could take it in 15-minute stretches, so I could investigate more.
exactly my thought. I loved the content, but it left me wanting way more.
I’d love for someone to create an interactive Star map online that ppl could add locations from sci-fi stories like this. I’d spend hours looking at that!
He should build an app
This would be autism. I mean, awesome.
I spent more time looking at the stellar cartography in Elite: Dangerous than I actually did playing the game.
You can kinda do this in Space Engine.
You could start doing it with Stellarium. Every story you read, look out for names.
Utterly, utterly fantastic - the way that astronomy is usually taught, it takes place in a sort of never-never land - meanwhile, our most popular media franchises drop references to these real places that almost no one ever thinks to put on a map! YOU HAVE FIXED THIS. Sharing this with all our students.
Thanks! I’m making another one that’s longer and with more astronomical references and less spelling errors.
And we realize that, even in many of our wildest fantasies, we're still living in a VERY SMALL corner of that map.
@@OverviewEffekt Greetings. If you ever make a full stellar map of Star Trek, take into account the website Memory Alpha, where every thing mentioned in Star Trek has an article. There are a bunch of stars to add: Capella, Altair, Rigel...
i saw thumbnail and thought,”mhmmm cinnamon roll👁️🫦👁️❤️.”
Epsilon Eridani: also the location of Reach in the Halo series.
The fact that a hyper advanced alien race couldn't immediately spot the home system of humans 10.5 LY away after glassing reach really reinforces the vastness of space.
Also the revelation space book series
Eridani is the same constelation With alien from Project hail mary right
@@clumsydoperequired1355 that would be 40 Eridani, not Epsilon Eridani. Or Tau Seti depends on which system you mean…
@@clumsydoperequired1355 Rocky from hail Mary is from 40 Eridani, a tri star system. Infact they are actually neighbours for Vulcans. IIRC, rockys planet Erid is the first planet that orbits 40 Eridani A while Vulcan is second planet that orbits 40 Eridani A. Epsilon Eridani is where Babylon 5 is built on. It is also where Bill from Bobiverse built his Skunkworks for the Bobiverse. It's so cool that sci-fi takes actual reference from real places.
That was more due to a misnomer, remember they thought Reach was humanity's home planet so they spent their time glassing the planet and stripping it for Forerunner artifacts before Regret moved onto Sol and promptly went "oh sh*t! More humans!"
I am just blown away not only by the animation, but the style itself allows better ease of access to understanding the information. It's so much better to see it all in 3 dimensions and interacting with each other visually. Fantastic job!
Fantastic indeed! Would love to see more!
My only complaint is, it's not long enough! Video ended too soon, hope to see more of these.
The crazy thing is that as a child I always thought they travel the entire universe in Star Trek, just to realize as an adult, they've not even managed to leave our own galaxy and even of that galaxy they only know about a quarter in detail. Now consider the possibilities with billions of other galaxies out there.
They only know a quarter but they haven't even traveled that far except for some special circumstances like the ent going to the galactic core and voyager getting flung across etc
I attempted to triangulate the position of B'hava'el (Bajor) from the three nearest real stars on the Star Trek star charts that are actually in roughly the same direction from Earth (Omega Piscium, Capella and Alpha Trianguli). The only real star I found that was in the F-G-K spectral range, was single, was more than a billion years old and less than a thousand lightyears away, was 64 Piscium, at 76 light years with one and a quarter the mass and radius of the sun. However Star Trek beta canon tells us that Bajor is within the Beta-Ursae sector block, and according to the map Beta Ursae (Majoris) is also near by, however Beta-Ursae Majoris is actually in the direction of the previous stars from the perspective of Earth (it wouldn't be anywhere near where it was placed) in fact all of those stars should more or less be on or near the axis that defines the border between Alpha and Beta Quadrant. That said there is a star near Beta Ursae Majoris which would be a perfect B'hava'el and that would be 47 Ursae Majoris, which is a 6 Billion year old G1V star with slightly more mass and radius than our sun, is 45 light years away, and has several confirmed planets and seems to have the very rare planet arrangement that our system does.
The Prophets are clearly sending information back in time. ;)
You win the, “keeper of the sacred blueprints,“ award for today. That sounds like I’m being sarcastic but I really am not. I am genuinely impressed.
This is why Star Wars just began with "Long ago in a Galaxy far away..." so that they weren't tied to any actual reality. Not as interesting, but far easier to lay down a setting!
Awesome
I love how epically nerdy this is.
This was terrific! I had no idea that the Dune universe was so "close." For the next video: Andoria, Tellar, Trantor, Terminus, the Ringworld, and the Puppeteer homeworlds.
i would watch an hour long video about this topic. with the production value, it would be easily consumed by me
From the times they mention for sub-light travel (9 months for the travel between earth and Geidi Prime), you get that the Dream Voyager must have travelled at ~99.93% light speed to get a travel time of 9 months without the Holtzman drive..
@@kataseiko May I ask where this data comes from? I assume you're referring to Giedi Prime, one of the world of the Dune saga, right?
I was surprised at how small and nearby everything was. I would love another one of these that includes prominent locations from the Stargate Universe, including Stargate Atlantis.
As I recall Atlantis was extra galactic. It was outside the Milky Way Galaxy.
@@merendell Atlantis was in "the Pegasus galaxy". There are two small Pegasus galaxies orbiting the Andromeda galaxy, and two extremely small Pegasus galaxies orbiting our galaxy. They don't say which one it is. Given the episode where they lay stargates between the galaxies, I'm sure it is one orbiting the Milky Way. Technically, Pegasus III and IV were discovered after Stargate aired, but I'm sure their greater technology and knowledge would have found them earlier and they would have had the same naming convention.
@@spejic1 the one from stargate is the Pegasus DIG galaxy. it was discovered like 80 years ago, way before stargate aired.
canon explanation was that daniel found the glyphs for the adress so they could locate the starsystem within its galaxy.
"I was surprised at how small and nearby everything was."
Mostly, authors use real names, which means they're of systems visible from Earth, and thus close to it.
Or make up their own names, without specifying exact locations relative to Earth.
Small on a galactic scale, still mind-boggling big for us.
Most maps and explanations I see place everything on a 2D plane; I really appreciate that you've created a 3D representation.
Tau Ceti was also mentioned in my favorite book series of all time: The Expanse. It was the original target star system for the Mormons' 100 year voyage aboard the Nauvoo
That sure went sideways lol.
@@logicplague ...or whatever higher dimensional direction the slowzone was in
@@iliketrains0pwned I don't remember the show covering it, and I've only read the last three where the show left off, but did they ever find a ring to get there? Or just another star system to do their thing?
@@logicplague I've read and watched everything. The books do mention that they started to map which stars the gates go to, but they never name any known star systems
@@logicplague On another note though, the Mormons are WAY less pissed than I expected. One of the architects for the Nauvoo was super happy that "God's plan took over". They built it to (maybe) reach one habitable system. But instead it opened the doors to 1372 of them.
I did not realize that "Deep" Space 9 was so close to Sol that a map of the whole galaxy couldn't distinguish them. I had assumed it was a good portion of the quadrant away.
Puts an even sharper edge on Kira in the first episode cutting down Bashir's "frontier medicine" fantasies with "this wilderness is my home".
Yea that doesn’t seem like it could be right I thought they were way out there. I thought they would have been more than 1/2 way to the delta quadrant than earth.
Most of "Federation space" is completely unexplored. The 2D maps are, well, 2D, and only show the broad boundaries of the farthest Federation planets. Hell, even by TNG era, the vast majority of stories take place within Federation space with planets and cultures that the Federation had never seen before. It being "close" to Sol doesn't mean much. Presumably the entire Metron empire is in Federation space but still completely unknown to the Federation.
It's not true. Deep space 9 is here on our very planet. All the mouth breathers and people that are just lost. They're deep space 9. Lol
@@GetterRaywell those are still arms of the galaxy, could the 3rd demention do that much?
yes, the scale is that big.@@jakeg3126
Epsilon Eridani, is also home to Reach in Halo Lore, in the lore humanity was trying extremely hard to hide the location of the Sol system from the covenant, a relatively small 10 ly away. Transit for Space Ships in Halo lore takes months with with the advanced slip space drives.
Excellent video, would have loved a deep dive if you ever do that, been a fan of space forever and loved every moment exploring it in Elite Dangerous and hope to see more content like this from you.
Another one with some interesting exoplanet data.
Remember Reach
Most of the planets inhabited by humans are within 50-100 light years of Sol. Also there is some very strange positions for more inhabited and less inhabited worlds, some "outer colonies" are very close to earth, and some more developed worlds are much farther away, probably due to how space colonies were propagated and which routes were deemed easier to travel.
Was also about to mention that
What I found super interesting is that all of those franchises end up taking place in such a galactically small area. In my head, I always thought of them being flung out all over the place. 😁
The only franchise that doesn't stay within the galaxy is Star Gate: SG1.
@@Eyes-of-Horus There are plenty of Sci-fi series that move outside the Galaxy. Doctor Who comes to mind right away. We don't actually know where all the gates in the Expanse go also. Lots of books. Heck all of Star Wars takes place outside our galaxy.
@@Jake-cm9jjeven then in the old EU Star Wars did deal with other galaxies. Hell, the Galactic Empire did occasionally move into its nearby dwarf galaxies and at one point two separate extra galactic invasions happened.
I also love maps and making maps and also do visualizations. REALLY appreciate what you’ve made here. Very clear and very interesting. Good job!
hence my fascination with the worlds of honor, and to a lesser extent, the worlds of robotech, the scale is unimaginable...john ringos universes are this close though, close not really accurate of course!!
Truely well done
Honestly, I'd an hour long extended version of this video. And, probably even return multiple times just because this is such cool context for some incredibly neat stories.
Extremely well done. Excellent graphics, the pacing was just right, and you let the story tell it self.
Now if you did a Stargate map. I would be thrilled. One with one color for stargates Earth has actually visited, one color for known stargates that Earth has not visited, and finally a map of systems that did not have stargates visited by humanity's Prometheus and Daedalus ships.
I dont think people realize, we humans havent actually mapped that many stars around us. A few thousand say, maybe 20,000 out of what? 100 billion in the Milky Way. LOL. By the way, what about Stargate Destiny? didnt they leave the Milky Way, or was that just the final episode? That show shouldnt of been cancelled, it was PERFECT
So out of the 20,000 we have mapped so far. I wonder how many would have worlds with Stargates? *grins*
And yes you are right Destiny I am not sure what Galaxy it is in. But Atlantis is in the Pegasus Galaxy and we kind of get an idea of where Atlantis is there when they show some of the maps regarding how the Wraith defeated the Ancients.
But all this being said, it is of course fictional and so many places have simply been made up and have no relation to actual discovered systems.
Still fun to speculate :)
@@onegemini420 I wish Destiny had gotten a 3rd season. Honestly, I never watched any Stargate except for Stargate Destiny. LOL. Im one of the fringe few. Be well, happy week to you
@@blitzmotorscooters1635 You may remember the first Star Gate trip was outside of the galaxy.
@@Eyes-of-Horus That was retconned for the show. Abydos, the name of the planet that the movie takes place on, is within the Milky Way. The entire Gould empire is within the milky way.
Though Stargates definitely have the capability of traveling out of the galaxy if given extra power beyond their standard power sources....they are designed to be modular in that way, the dialing system allows them to travel literally anywhere in the universe with enough power attached. The standard power source of the gates does restrict them to one galaxy travel though.
I was so happy when you mentioned Project Hail Mary. It’s one of my favorite sci-fi books. Humanity finds a problem, bands together to solve it, goes to another solar system, and learns from aliens. To me it’s a story about one many quest to save not only humanity but himself and his alien friend. It’s a story about hope and discovery and overcoming seemingly insurmountable problems while humanity bands together. Humanity working together to save everyone doesn’t feel too unrealistic. Everyone doesn’t cooperate flawlessly and no one is perfect but in the end they manage to get it done despite their flaws and disagreements.
Agreed! I love Andy Weir's works for how they're rooted in hard science-fiction (fewer replicators and more burning hydrazine to make water), but even with more fantastical elements as are included in Project Hail Mary, there's rational scientific method in operating around those elements.
Indeed, pr hail mary is hands down one of the best sf books of the decade.
I would recommend reading the revelation space series by alastair reynolds as well. They are still very hard sf books but take more liberty in the time scale department and can explore societal development over the time scales interstellar round trips take.
Yes Project Hail Mary is an excellent book, I'm looking forward to the movie, but there is another author that hit many of the systems discussed, in this video, in his series of books, the Bobiverse series by Dennis E. Taylor. After I reread Project Hail Mary I always move on to the Bobiverse books.
@@mechuck101 another author that uses real star systems is alastair reynolds with his revelation space series.
Also: THERE‘S A MOVIE FOR PR HAIL MARY COMMING?! WHEN? I WANT!
@@anticlaassic IMDB and Wikipedia show it in development with it possibly going into production in 2024.
Interstellar travel in the Stargate series is insane, not referring to the stargate itself but to FTL travel, ships have superconductive materials along the lines of dilithium crystals but the energy produced is near unfathomable because it allows FTL travel between galaxies in mere weeks.
In the novel _Endymion_ interstellar ships accelerate at such a high rate that the occupants are reduced to a sticky paste, but thanks to a symbiont known as a cruciform they are reassembled and awaken within three days afterwards. Sometimes they suffer brain damage and other nasty side effects. Or can't be revived at all.
Yikes.
Well, the trick is that they in most franchises found a way to bend the empty space between the stars for the ship, with artificial wormholes or warp fields etc, so that they need less energy than a sun to get to Alpha C
A moment In Stargate that had me 😮 was when Thor had Sam from his world galaxies away to here in seconds. That was cool
@@johnpaulporrelli6208 If I'm not mistaken, just before that, they created an explosion INSIDE a hyperspace tunnel to trap and destroy their enemy. The Asgard were just adorable grey space wizards and I'm glad they're on our side.
This was an INCREDIBLY interesting video. And would love to see more.
Epsilon Eridani also features heavily in the backstory (and is the setting of a prequel game) of the Halo series: It's the location of Reach (ε Eridani II), the first human colony world to fall to the Covenant. Funny enough, I built my first outpost on that exact planet in Starfield, and plan on building my second one on the planet that Babylon 5 orbits (ε Eridani III).
Harvest was the first to fall to the Covenant though.
In fact, with the timeline of Reach and the original trilogy only taking a few months, it may have been the final human planet to fall before the Covenant was defeated at the Battle of Installation 00. (assuming you don't count earth or the lunar colonies on that list)
Glad I wasn’t the only to remember reach’s star
If you are going to build on Epsilon 3, better get permission from the Great Machine first!
In regard to Star Trek lore maps, I find the maps given in the Str Trek Concordance by Bjo Trimble of 1969 and 1976 editions to be more accurate as it gives the shapes of Federation, Klingon, Romulan, Tholian, and Gorn space within the Milky Way Galaxy, plus there is a map of the local star group where Sol is at the center and the nearby stars are located, based off of a real star chart. It locates the star systems of the home worlds of the five founding members of the Federation.
They also have star charts in Star Trek Online
Altair IV from Forbidden Planet, orbiting Alpha Aquilae. It deserves a mention as one of the iconic settings of 1950's Sci-Fi, especially as being among the first 20th Century adaptations of The Tempest.
DEFINITELY deserves a mention!
I think Tau Ceti was the first destination for a KF jump drive test in Battletech. It has a lot of well known stars. I also often wondred where Red Dwarf ended up after 3 million years, I never found any info on what direction it was facing when the drive plate blew.
There's others mentioned like Eridani where the Eridani light Horse regiment was from.
Vega is also a Draconis Combine world, Canopus, minus sandworms, is the capital of a Periphery state that bears its name, the Pleiades Cluster is out near Taurian space ...there are a lot of references to actual stars in Battletech, though the creators didn't always have them in quite the right place on the map.
@@SirThoreth BattleTech's galactic map has undergone a few dramatic iterations. At least in the very earliest editions from decades ago. A lot stars moved around (over and over again) before they settled into the configurations people would recognize today. The famous capital worlds don't move around much, but all the little fillers have been swept around (over time) into very different configurations.
System Shock 2 also takes place at Tau Ceti, the test flight destination of their first FTL ship (the Von Braun).
Im not a big fan of Star Trek but this map you created is one of the most pleasing to the eye and easy to point your finger on the position.
Usually People show black 2D maps of the Milky Way and it is really difficult to focus on them.
Well done.
In the Traveller RPG, "known space" is incomprehensibly immense, with tens of thousands of star systems mapped and cataloged, probably over 100,000. There's even an interactive map online that shows it all. And when you pull back to show known space on the scale of the whole Milky Way, it's just a tiny postage stamp of an area. That's why it always cracks me up when sci fi characters are like "blah blah the entire Galaxy" etc. Or if that's not enough, the evil empire finishes conquering one whole galaxy and starts conquering other ones. I always wonder if the writers have any idea how big these things are.
Yeah i get the feeling most writers don’t do the research and just go… “Galaxy! Blah blah.”
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Current Star Trek does that a lot.
Picard's career is now defined by "saving the galaxy multiple times".
Star Trek Discovery has seasons where the galaxy constantly needs to be saved.
It ruins the idea of scale.
That's one thing im impressed with from James Cameron: he does his homework. Im not sure if it was him who made the Alien franchise realistic, but it follows the same pattern as Avatar, using real places and plausible tech... except the "tachyon drive" but taychons were so hot back then...@@TheTattorack
@@OverviewEffekt There's a scene in B5, where Londo and Morden are dividing up the galaxy, that is a particularly stupid example of FX people not understanding the scale of the Milky Way.
I think it is possible for one empire to conquer one whole galaxy, it is just not fast process, because with every conquered system it can get more and more resources, eventually conquering thousands systems at once, basically they just need to scale empire to be large enouth to do it
I wish there was a longer version of this. Love this sort of nerdy illustration 😊
Pretty nice! Really hope an update covers other major universes like StarGate, BattleTech, HALO, Battlestar Galactica, Foundation, Mass Effect, etc. :)
Ooooooooh, yes Battletech!! I used to play tabletop in the late 80's then the video games in the 90's. Stargate would also interest me as well.
Also Farscape, Andromeda, Earth Final Conflict, and Firefly.
That would be awesome
And all the worlds from "Hyperion" by Dan Simmons...
long, long ago, in a gaming world far, far away, there was a game called "Outpost". Hard to find today, but it was a super realistic game where a colony ship carried the player to the planet/star of their choosing. Based on "real" scientific data and scientist speculation about what conditions on those planets would be like, the colonists had to use the available resources to build a colony and .... well... survive. This was back in the 90's, and I've not been able to find it available today. THe follow-on "Outpost 2" was higher on the graphics scale, but was less graphically satisfying. New sub here, thoroughly enjoyed this.
This is amazing! A few months ago, I binge watched all of Voyager, and I really wanted to learn which route they took to get back to the Earth. I was surprised to see just some old, inaccurate 2D maps. What you've done here is exactly the type of thing I was looking for.
I agree. I wish the producers decided to make a map of the Delta quadrant before they started writing episodes to keep things consistent. The few times they did this was when Voyager passed the "Nekrit Expanse" and we no longer saw the Kazon anymore since their territory was too far away. They should have done this more often. Also at some point, maybe season 6, Voyager would have left the Delta quadrant and arrived in the Beta. I wish they brought this up.
I did the same, lol
I have ALWAYS wondered where in real space these places are. Thanks so much for making this video. Please do more videos on this very interesting topic.
Nice video, worth mentioning, about Epsilon Eridani [3:26], it plays also a part in the HALO lore, the planet Reach (Epsilon Eridani II) was the military center of the UEG/ UNSC (United Earth Government), and where the Master Chief and the other Spartan II were trained.
It's a popular system. It's also the location of the Yellowstone and Glitter Band/Rust Belt Demarchist civilizations in Alastair Reynolds' Revelation Space series.
Please do more of this specific awesome content. It’s so cool to see where these stories take place. I did some searching and couldn’t find anything like what you’ve done here. Nice work.
These star systems are a lot closer than I thought. I watch Star Trek and stars that are trillions of miles apart are flying past the Enterprise in seconds as it travels through space. And I have to ask, "Man, how fast is this thing going?" and "How far apart are these inhabited worlds?"
But you must know that at FTL speeds the whole Galaxy becomes a bright blur like a single headlight.
And looking at it would be worse than X-rays.
And there would be no other stars visible. Also, parts of Space are full of gravel.
@@TIMEtoRIDE900 In Star Trek, the ships have "deflector dishes" on the front, which I assumed to be to protect against space gravel.
fans have generally figured that the light streaks aren't actually caused by parallax from the movement so much as the light being bent and shifted by the warp bubble. of course IRL it was just a nifty visual effect to help sell the impression of speed.
@@glitterboy2098 Much like a "Turbo Lift" that has lights streaking by the useless view window.- - do these lights stay on ALL THE TIME ??
The nature of the light streaks has never been directly addressed in canon, to my knowledge (haven't read many in-universe novels), but I like to think of them as stray bits of debris in interstellar space being thermally shocked by impact with the warp bubble, resulting in them glowing bright white as the warp bubble slides by
A lot of the Halo universe takes place around Epsilon Eridani. Later on, they venture outside the Milky Way all together to visit the ark. Would love to see the locations of the rings and all that, in something like this!
This was fantastic.
Excellent graphics.
Very clear demonstration of the triaxial universe.
It ended all too soon.
Been a while since a UA-cam vid left me wanting more.
Looking forward to whatever else you add.
As others have commented, you have tapped into a subject with untold breadth and depth. It is only limited by how far you want to follow down the rabbit hole.
LOVE THIS!!! More please? Fascinating visualization, well done Sir!
I was sad it was over, this was definitely the best way to visualize distances and locations I've seen! Plenty of videos that have all the sizes next to each other or some sort of ruler to show distance, but this was more effective.
I would have liked for the outtro part to continue on sort of orbiting all of the star locations for longer to look at them before the video cuts off
Maybe these people will make a sequel that will be longer and have info on ever farther out. 💡
I'd love to see this video with a running timeline of the events of the 1999 videogame Freespace 2. The mission briefings narrated by Robert Loggia are etched into my core memories. Systems such as Deneb, Gamma Draconis, Epislon Pegasi, and Capella would be incredible to be seen in this animation style, as 3D representations. Barring that insane one-off request, this was a fantastic video that scratched my Sci-Fi map loving itch. Thank you!
That was Robert Loggia? Today I learned.
I am so in love with the storyline of that game. Fantastic unfold of events and incredible voice acting from the late Mr. Robert Loggia (my favorite general of all time) and everyone else involved.
Yes, I’d also love to see an animated narration of the events in Freespace 2.
Don’t leave out Red giving the details of the Colossus.
@@chriseash6497 I still find the destruction of Gallatea more impactful. Mainly because the dry response of the dispatch. "Gallatea is lost. Mission failed. Report for debriefing." Its harowing. (I repeated the mission several times just because of that, before realizing its impossible mission to save her.)
R as in Robert Loggia
O as in oh my god it’s Robert Loggia
B as in by god it’s Robert Loggia
E as in Everybody loves Robert Loggia
Cool to have you back.
I'm subscribing, and look forward to whatever you have in store!
After playing Starfield recently, i have gained enormous interest in the stars.
Thanks for the perfectly timed video drop.
You definitely met your goal of making stellar cartography very most! This was super fun.
The amount of work that has gone into this video is literally astronomical. Thank you so much for answering so many questions I have had my entire life. Brilliant ❤🖖🏼✨
More please! This needs to be a series!! New subscriber here!!
Working on it!
@@OverviewEffekt Video games? Halo?
That was really great. Loved the visual of where the stars are. Was very surprising to know that all those movies and show happen so close!
That was amazing! One thing was sad at was that at the very end we didn't get a zoom-out to see how close or spread-out the systems were in the whole galaxy context
Well just keep in mind the galaxy is about 100,000 lightyears across.
They all fit within that 350 light year bubble that looked like a dot from the view of the whole galaxy.
The space is big, really big. If you think that the way home after a late bar nigh is long, it is nothing compared to…
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Thanks for this, really appreciate that it was done in 3D, it put things right into our very human's very, very tiny perspective and very humbling too!
Please make more of this, expanding it slowly far and farther away from SOL. I intrigues me where are all the scifi worlds located in our universe!
I loved this. One of my favorite book trilogies is the Bobiverse series (the first book is We are Legion We are Bob). They actually list several of those star systems and some others as they expand across the universe. It would be interesting to see a second version of this map related to that book series!
I'm so glad someone else mentioned this! The author is the process of writing more Bobiverse content.
Yes! Delta Pavonis is a very important system in the Bobiverse, I had no idea Caladan was there too! :)
Yup, i loved the use of actual star systems.
@@biltrex yeah the author is a big sci-fi fan. He lists so many such systems. Epsilon Eridani where Bill builds his Skunkwork is where Babylon 5 was built. 40 Eridani,iirc, is where Howard find the twin planets and name them Romulus and Vulcan aptly. It's so cool to see so many sci-fi references in that book.
That was really cool. I love sci-fi flicks, etc., and knew that some were based on reality, like Contact, etc., but was blown away to find out that the settings for Aliens and Dune are real star systems. Way cool!! Kudos for taking the time to put all that together!
I am in love. This is for the total science geek who is too mathematically and spatially challenged to actually map this out in more than two dimensions. Thank you!
This is really cool. I can't wait to see the longer version you're working on.
Love this! I’ve always wondered whereabouts Vulcan was in the galaxy compared to Earth…way closer than I imagined
Yeah, right in the neighborhood.
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I’d be curious if you could map the real life locations mentioned in the Honor Harrington series - many of the stars mentioned are just “out there somewhere” and fictitious, but some are quite real: Epsilon Eridani is referenced (as the sight of a planet-wide massacre that led to serious restrictions on the use of weapons of mass destruction against planetary surfaces from space), and Sigma Draconis actually plays a pretty important role (it’s the home star system of the main character’s mother, and the closer-to-earth end of a wormhole that connects the main character’s home system to an interstellar polity centered on earth).
I love maps.. 😅
Especially star maps, dont know why they are just fun and interesting.
I remember having a space app that let you move around the galaxy and tell you about the stars you select and I just loved moving around and seeing all the real stars in Star Trek and Dr Who and the like. So fun. haha
I needed a whole hour of this . Would have loved to see star locations from Legend of the Galactic Heroes , Phantasy Star IV (Algol) , other places in ST and B5 . Stargate etc .
Multiple planets listed here were also settings in the Hyperion sci-fi book series. If you like sci-fi and haven't read it please do so! Barnard's star, tau ceti, and the Opheuchi system all play a big part!
Good rec! I haven't read it. I'll check it out.
Good call. Those books weren't really for me, but they are well written. I have this with a lot of sci-fi where I like the concept OR the story, but rarely both. Hard to explain, but those like Hyperion series keep me interested even if half of me is wishing for more.
I always imagined DS9 as very, very far from earth. I'm surprised to see it so close. This was a great video. I hope to see more from you dude. Awesome logo by the way!
no kidding. space even in scifi like star trek is so vast we have barely explored it
It's a month away at warp 9. That's a fair hike.
I know what you mean but it still has to be in Federation space, and the Federation only takes up a small part of the Alpha Quadrant.
@@RedParsley Federation space straddles both the Alpha and Beta quadrants (as does Earth's solar system), and is about equal in both. The Alpha quadrant is primarily shared with the Romulans and Klingons, and the Beta quadrant is primarily shared with the Cardassians.
DS9 IS very far from Earth, unless you have a warp capable ship, or a wormhole to get there…
Wow, this was great. I can appreciate the amount of time and effort that went into this. Thanks!
I really want more of this. I see last uploads were a few years ago. This is quality content and I wish I can see more from this channel! Very interesting
I use Audible for many Sci Fi space operas and I loved “Hail Mary” and I recall the popular “BOB” series also take place in that same system. Nice to see authors actually using stellar information. I love this map and will be using it and others you make to keep it “visual” in my minds eye.
I love the Bobiverse series too! It is some serious sci-fi similar to Ray Bradberry. I think I need to check out "Hail Mary".
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*In an alternate Timeline, Vulcan is well in the only Star Trek Timeline that matters.
I hate the Kelvin Timeline movies. Strictly Prime Timeline over here.
@@agm8554Both are great ((:
@@cassini4751 Well, that may be, but the KT movies (especially Star Trek into Darkness) are just knockoffs of the original movies in my opinion.
I had no idea the locations in Dune had ever been associated with real stars! Great video :)
hmm, dune canon says sol's location had been lost for a thousand years, and that arrakis was on the edge of a 10,000-human-world machine empire, so maybe not the star in the video, sounded plausible though!
I wonder if the names of the real stars were shown in one of the movies
@@brendenharris8858 well, us as the audience knowing which star it is, doesn't tell the people in the story where Sol is in relation to that star.
@@brendenharris8858That’s not correct. The appendixes in the first Dune cover the Commission of Ecumenical Translators (CET) that met on Earth and created the Orange Catholic Bible to solve generations of religious disputes.
in which epoch was that?@@bbartky
A scale animation of the 40K setting would be cool. It always seemed odd that they crammed so many different races into one galaxy, until I remember how big galaxies actually are..
Remember that there are more species out there in the 40k universe than the Humans, the Aeldari, the Orks, the Necrons, the Tyranids and the T'au. There's also the Jokaero, the Kroot, the Hrud and many others just to mention just a few.
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Over 1 million human worlds alone. I love that scale. Because you can't imagine it. Worlds are lost and recaptured from the aliens all the time making it seem insignificant to the grand scheme of things.
Gosh I enjoyed that. I also had already read Hail Mary, and it was a superb book. One of my fave authors now, along with Kim Stanley Robinson. As a space fan, but not knowing enough to earn the status of nerd, I can say I loved this video's style and specificity, especially since it meant I didn't have to do any of the work. I also enjoyed the humour. Great work. Instant subscribe. I hope you stay with us long enough to do more and don't get bummed at how long it takes to gather an audience.
All this, ditto. Love KSR's work, but haven't read Project Hail Mary yet. Will start today.
What i love about KSR is that he does not just inject hope to the genre (Red/Green/Blue Mars), but he also is a superb teller of near future tales that encapsulate the dangers and the potentials of solving our current Dyson Filter era.
@@mundanestuff Absolutely worth the effort. You can also get it as an audio book and my copy was word for word the book, not an adaptation. Is a superb read.
@@spaceman9599 Exactly. His earlier books didn't do that, but he clearly has his sights set on 'if I'm going to bother writing a book, let's tackle the climate elephant in the room'. My first book of his was 'Ministry for the Future'. Recommended to me by an ecologist. Superb book that outlines one way to get us out of the climate catastrophe we are in at the moment. Was such a good book I even got a copy made of tree. (was in a book swap nook so didn't cost me anything except a book. Winner winner, dinner of chicken.)
Excellent work. I like how you put so much effort for visualing this. I'm looking forward to see more of "SCI-FI Space Map"
I'm glad to be on this very planet with creators like you. Great stuff!
Omg... I loved the video... I would live to see a full in depth star system video based on such sci fi novels movies and place it into a single video... Even if it were to be hours long... I would completely watch it... Love the video ❤
Thanks, I really appreciate your video. For the first time, your 3-D model made accessible to me the scale of our galaxy and the locations of these fav sci-fi references. I'd love to see more! My mind and imagination are blown!
This is...amazing. like...im having a hard time wording it. Its crazy that everything happens in such a small patch around our star system. Really puts into perspective just how huge something like warhammer 40k is. Where humanity spans so much of the entire galaxy. Also i had no idea most of the well known franchises and sci fi works took place so "close" to home. I always imagined them as being farther.
It's like every event in the Bible happening within a 600-mile wide circle around Jerusalem.
They happen close to home because they're using the names of actual stars, which by definition, have to be nearby so we can see them and name them. Star Wars (for example) happens on Tattoine which according to cannon is in a galaxy far, far away. We can't tell you where because we can't see individual stars in most other galaxies and therefore we can't name them.
This was really fascinating! Excellent video. I would be interested in more of the sci-fi novel locations - one that comes to mind immediately is the Honor Harrington series, by David Weber. It's all over the place and would be cool to see it laid out visually.
Looking through the Honorverse wiki it doesn't look like many of the systems map to real stars. The majority seem to be "a star x lightyears from another star". So, following the chain to see if each does or could map to a real star could be a massive undertaking.
I would love to see an extended version of this!
Very interesting about Dune, I had no idea. Granted it has been MANY years since I read the books but I have to no memory of any mention of Sol, or the real life Star locations of the worlds.
Like so many others, I wish to voice the opinion that this video needs... well MORE, this video needs sequels, and plenty of them :)
I've been recently reading the series (I read the original years ago but never got around to the sequels), currently on God Emperor of Dune and there is no mention thus far of any real life systems. The only time earth ever even comes up is via the twins and references to a long forgotten homeworld.
So yeah I had no idea Caladan and Geidi Prime were so close. I'm pretty sure I've passed through both of those systems in Elite Dangerous. Never been to Canopus though, maybe I should pay a visit.
@@Hawk_of_Battle You still play? Been maybe 4 years since I played regularly, but I do still keep somewhat up to date with the happenings.
@@Hawk_of_Battle Earth was nuked in the Butlerian Jihad against the AI slavemasters, it's a radioactive tomb, no one goes there
This video is great! If you make more like this in the future I would absolutely be interested in watching.
Enjoyed this, thank you! Would love to see more.
More to come!
Damn good job... also thank you for your service... us nerds really appreciate that you spent 7ish years of your life to make this 😂😂😂
Great visualization! I wouldn't mind seeing the locations described in the Ringworld books in another/longer video - the Ring, the Puppeteer's planets and the colony systems. Maybe also the Pak homeworld if you expand to full galaxy... Cheers :)
@0:21 "AUSTIM" instead of AUTISM lol funny
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Like I see many other people say, this video was fantastic. Great pacing, great use of the map. My only regret is that it ended faster than I expected because it was so well done!
2 things, zeta is also the home of the aliens in fallout, and star trek online has a much more detailed star map, and it's interactive, you can fly the enterprise so thousands of these locations. Wolf 359 is my favorite, there is a ton of wreckage from the battle and a huge, awesome holographic memorial shrine.
Very nice, in a related sci fi universe, I have been matching the closest stars with those of Warhammer 40k, this is what I found
GJ699b is Vorlese
GJ 699b is Cthonia
Wolf 1061C is Inwit
Alpha Centaurys unnamed planet is Proxima Majoris (exterminatus during HH)
Ross 128b is Heta-Gladius
Luyten b is Necromunda
LHS 1140 b is Ullanor/Armageddon
Kepler-452b is Molech
How fascinating.
What source did you use to look up the real positions and distances of the stars you named here?
Such a great video! Would love for you to do a similar 3d representation of all the starts visited by the replicants in the Bobbiverse series written by Dennis E. Taylor. Some of the stars mentioned in that series were highlighted in your video like Delta Pavonis and 40 Eridani, but it would be great to have a similar map to reference the next time I get lost in that book series.
Many people have recommended it and I’m half way through the second book. It will be in the next video. It’s great.
“The universe is a pretty big place. If it's just us, seems like an awful waste of space.”
― Carl Sagan, Contact
"Space," it says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mindbogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space. -- Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy
man thank you so much for doin gthis, i was so intrigued about this always but could never find the proper keywords to search for something like this. you literally answered all my ques regarding the space map for all the sci fi movies that i hold dear to me.
If we could get a part 2 of this video that would be awesome!
I would have loved to have notable worlds from Larry Niven's Known Space included. For instance Jinx (Sirius), We Made It (Procyon), Down (Luyten's Star?), Plateau (Tau Ceti), Canyon (p Eridani A), Kzin (61 Ursae Majoris), etc.
yes. known space! ringworld! the halo before halo
All the worlds mentioned in the Known Space series fit within a region 60 light years across.
@@mikewuerth4218 Just to nitpick a bit, that's not entirely accurate. The Ringworld is not in the Known Space region, nor is Pak or the Fleet Of Worlds.
@@Wishbone1977 You're absolutely right! I commented before thinking it through.
Awesome work! So looking at the Star Trek map, it would take about 15 days to get from Earth to DS9 at warp 9. Guessing at the size of the federation (from the top part of the map to where the bottom looks like) it looks like it would take around 60 days to get across. I’m surprised at how small it is in term of travel time, I thought it would be much bigger
That's a good sea voyage
Interestingly, if it were possible to travel at slightly below the speed of light, due to time dilation it would be possible to traverse the entire 100,000 light years of the galaxy in only a few seconds.
However, time would have passed as normal for those at rest, so you’d essentially have traveled not only the vast distance but you’d be in the far future too.
@@simonh10 what? am i missing something here? im pretty sure you are misunderstanding something.
@sharpe227
It is counterintuitive but it is true that, when traveling at relativistic speeds, time slows for the traveler relative to an observer at rest. The faster you are traveling relative to c, the slower time passes.
However time passes as normal for those in their inertial frames of reference.
The result is that you can traverse truly enormous distances in a very short period of time.
Check out Special Relativity and Time Dilation in any good university physics book or even Wikipedia for more details.
It is fascinating.
@@simonh10 Yeah this is actually portrayed in an episode of Stargate Atlantis really well, because one of the Alterran ships Hyperdrives had crapped out they continued from the Pegasus galaxy back to the milky way at like 99.99999% the speed of light, and therefore had been nearly frozen in time from their persepctive for 10,000 years, but when the main characters found them in modern day they had barely aged, so they got to meet the "Ancients" in person.
i love this video. I really like that you named different movies and books i havent seen in a long time but remember from childhood memories. And you named movies and books i just havent seen. It's always great to discover new scifi.
Maybe you could cover the events in video games? Not necessarily the actions of the player, but the journey of the lore of humans in that game. Like Mass Effect, Star Citizen, Star Field etc. And compare them to real life starmap you did here. Of course like films too.
I know in the game System Shock 2 (which is my all time favourite game) the ship you're aboard which is the first FTL capable ship visits Tau Ceti where all hell breaks loose.
Halo could be included. Although, I'm not sure how many planets or star systems in the Halo universe are real or based on something nearby. Considering Earth is in that universe, you'd think some planets or systems would at least be loosely based on real ones
I've been a sci-fi fan pretty much my whole life. I had NO idea so many of these places are actual star systems. I thought it was just stuff that was made up. Now I'd be mega impressed if you mapped out all the planets visited in Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis.
They’re not real. I’ll mention what is in SG universe but it’s disappointing
@@OverviewEffekt I write science fiction and fantasy and don't understand why so many people assume by default that all fiction is made up, so I share your disappointment. It is just lazy writing to make things up. The one star that i am most fascinated by, and of course the one I'm writing about, is 18Scorpii because it is the nearest star that is identical to ours. It is a near perfect twin to Sol. It is so identical to Sol that it is almost without question the first place humanity will colonize. Unfortunately it is 46 light years away and even with fusion rockets perpetually accelerating to sub light speeds it will take us 130 years to get there. There are 400 billion stars in the galaxy with a potential 4 trillion or more planets, and it is estimated by HabCat that only 17129 of them are habitable.
@@FablestoneSeries Knowing that space is extremely harsh and miserable, why stick to only "habitable" stars and planets? With the extreme high energy tech to traverse star systems, why bother living on planets when we can take them apart and construct more ideal habitats? Not like time is an issue since you could send something like a self-replicating probe centuries in advance to build it all. Not to mention the potential of cybernetic/genetic engineering that would expand the habitation profile.
Eh, at least I imagine you'd find this interesting.
@@downloadableram2666 because all of that is pure science fantasy and not science fiction. The key problem with virtually ALL science fiction is that it ignores the energy constraints of these wondrous things we dream up. For example, as i'm sure you know, there is a rough blueprint and theory on paper on how we might one day build a warp drive, however it completely glosses over the fact in order to generate enough anti protons to sustain a warp bubble over a 600 meter sized ship for even just a few seconds, let alone an extended period of time would require all the energy contained in our sun. all of it. Zipping around the galaxy at faster than light speeds would require us to destroy most of the galaxy in the process. We may THINK like gods but we don't live in heaven. over the next century i think science is going to continue to run itself against this limitation time and time again. our eyes are metaphorically larger than our stomachs. Just cause we can build it doesn't mean we can power it.
@@downloadableram2666 Also... We could travel to Alpha Centauri, and live there, but why would you want to? There is no atmosphere on the planet there, it is tidally locked with an 11 day year. Bombarded by significant radiation, being that it is so close to its sun. Probably has no water. It would be a death sentence. Why when the expense and risk of space travel is so high would you travel anywhere that wasn't at least as good if not better than Earth? Why spend a trillion dollars to carve out a meager existence on a distant star where you'll never again be able to go outside? When you could travel an extra hundred years and travel to a planet identical to Earth? Given the choice I don't understand why we'd ever want to go to Alpha Centauri over 18Scorpii. It isn't even choice.
Super well done video, loved the direction you took it, would love to see more. Great work
I liked To sleep in a Sea of Stars from Christopher Paolini. Most of the systems from their were already mentioned, but I liked that you could keep track of all systems there because there’s no unnecessary bloat with just wanting to have high numbers.