I lived on First Street in Castleton from 1979-2009. Some of these shots are taken near the old Hamilton Printing Company (just north of castleton ) and I especially remember the time one of these trains hit a tractor trailer at this location. can't recall if the trailer was trying to pull out onto route 9J or from 9J into the printing company but soon after that they put a red light signal up to prevent future incidents. We always joked how Castleton had a red light at a railroad crossing and a flashing blinker light at the main intersection of 9J and route 150
ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL video compilations of AMTRAK TRAINS blistering the rails! It's just mind blowing of how fast they travel! Thanks for sharing this video and I'm viewing this from the 1st state of Delaware.
That second Crossing is the Hamilton press in Castleton New york, and I remember when a tractor-trailer got hit by the train and propelled a Volkswagen Beetle size roll of paper right through that upper brick wall, driving by you can still see the discolored bricks, after that that's when they integrated a traffic signal along with the railroad signals and tried to enhance the Crossing
I was on an Empire Service train coming back from Poughkeepsie NY. The train was moving so fast you could barely move aboard it. I talked to a very knowledgeable Cafe Car Attendant. He told me because the Engineer had no ticketed on or off between Poughkeepsie and Albany, the Engineer was doing the P32's top speed of 110mph. I was wowed when I was told the Engineer was doing 110mph. The train also got to Albany a lot faster I will admit.
All Empire Service trains run 110mph between Albany and Hudson NY. The conductor most likely meant that your train would not be making any passenger stops in the 110mph section, so it would be full speed all the way through.
no, the slower ones are probably 80 mph and the faster ones 110. The speed limit for most sections is 80 and the genesis's maximum operational speed is 110.
Yeah isn’t it insane… Marshall plan built back Germany after all the destruction caused x2…. So that now you have great trains and we have old diesels… crazy stuff
First one looked like Lake Shore Limited, with the Boston-bound cars behind the engines, and the NYC cars behind them. Locomotives with 700 series numbers are P32AC-DM, dual power so they can run underground in NYC.
I can't wait to visit New York State to record these trains. I'm doing a train review and also train spotting for 2 days. One alone the Empire Service and the other along the NE corridor
Beautiful! I've traveled from NYC to Niagara Falls on the Empire Builder several times over a decade ago and those trains never exceed 75 miles per hour...
Nice to see they raised the speed limit: the last time I rode one was in 2004. Back then, the top speed for the diesels was 80mph... at least it was for my train (NY to Albany).
You must have been on a slow train. 110 MPH for passenger has been in effect from Rensselaer to Stuyvesant since at least 2000 when I ran trains there. Unfortunately I could only do 50 MPH with freight.
@@MrGeforcerFX No, not because of the road crossings. There are plenty of 110mph grade crossings, including several in this video. The first few trains were going sub-110 due to physical characteristics such as signals, train length/weight, or locomotive performance. Not every Empire train manages to hit 110 on every run.
This is what North Carolina. rail service should think about doing increasing the speed to 110 between Raleigh and Charlotte I know a lot of people don't consider that as high-speed rail but something that expense you have to take baby steps first, we may never see 180 mph trains on that line with Norfolk Southern freight trains but 110 mph may be possible .
@@ZRHTrainspotter Not possible. This line has ACSES (PTC) and this system does not allow over the MAS at all. They also have cab signals that enforce 110MPH max and the locomotive’s also have a stand alone governor that will put them in a penalty if you exceed 110MPH as well. So their is absolutely no chance you will ever see one operating above 110MPH. Ever.
They're still "unlikely," Ayyoltz, compared to the situation in southern and midwestern parts of the country. OTOH, given global warming, we're seeing them -- albeit small ones -- more frequently in the Northeast.
at 0:01, no one forgets the sound of a K5LA Nathan AIrchime Horn :D do you know in 2020 if the WOLVERINE uses the the K5LA? the horn sounds different and I've been to Battle Creek and Kalamazoo.
The wolverine now uses Charger locomotives, which have raised letter K5LAs that sound a bit different. Nathan changed their castings around 2007 so the new horns longer play the same notes and also have a harsher, less pleasing tonality to them.
Just wait until the Siemens ALC-42 arrives later this year. We may be able to see 125 mph running on some Amtrak lines now certified for 110 mph--the type of speeds only achieved by the old British Rail trainsets with diesel prime movers.
Going 125MPH with a (non overhead electric) locomotive has been done in the US since the early 70's with the UA Turbotrain and Rohr Turboliners on Amtrak. It's hardly something only the British achieved. And the current Siemens Chargers which have been in regular service for years are capable of 125MPH, as is the EMD F125 which have been in service for 5 years. So their is no need to wait for the ALC-42 to get trains above 110MPH. The ALC-42 is simply a Long Distance version of a standard Charger. It has a larger fuel tank and a larger capacity HEP (Head End Power) system for longer trains. Because of this it's actually 200HP less than an SC-44. But all Chargers are rated for 125MPH. The reason you are not seeing trains on the 110MPH routes going any faster has noting to do with the Locomotives rated top speed. It has to do with with the class of track. To go above 110MPH you need to change to Class 7 track. This means added costs with maintenance and inspections and installing and maintaining impenetrable barriers at all highway grade crossings. This would cost an enormous amount of money (well over 100 Million USD) for an increase in speed of 15MPH. Over the course of a trip, an added 15MPH speed increase on the 110 sections would shave off a few minutes at best. Hardly anything close to hours.
Speed estimates (based on count frames loco takes to pass). Assuming loco length is 69 feet in all cases Train 1: 141 km/h train 2: 115 km/h train 3 : 177 km/h train 4 : 132 km/h train 5: 181 km/h train 6: 178 km/h train 7: 178 km/h train 8: 145 km/h train 9: 151 km/h train 10: 184 km/h
Track speed 79 max for passenger trains once the LSL leaves the Hudson Line. The sleepers are good for 110, since the same ones do that all the time on the NEC.
gda44256 Correct, one clip was filmed on the Mohawk Sub, but the rest were taken in Castleton On Hudson which is only a few miles south of Albany. Some of these train were still accelerating from their Albany departure and slowing for the signal in Albany, especially the Lakeshores since they are heavier. The Empire Services, Maple Leafs, and Adirondack were doing the line’s max speed.
When the red lights are flashing and the crossing gates are down just stay where you are for your own safety. There is no way you can judge the distance and speed of an approaching train.
Some of these must have been going downhill, such as the last one. Some of them were going past their limit. The last train was going 114mph by the way,
@@engineersdash7564 Then it was one in testing that was geared above 110MPH (So not the ones used in everyday service) and had the overspeed disabled. What happens in testing is just that. Not revenue service. So it has no bearing on this discussion. What location and month/year was this “test” you witnessed??? The FRA certified the P42 to 110MPH. That's why when they use P42's on Reginal trains on the NEC (which happens several times a week) they can't go over 110MPH. By FRA regs, by Amtrak rules and by the gear ratio and overspeed protection. Nobody has ever "clocked one" in revenue service going 120. The ONLY places they can even run above 90MPH all have ACSES or some other form of PTC. These systems in addition to the factory GE Overspeed protection prevent going even 1mph over.
Train horns are the best example of the Doppler effect
(3:52) Dang! Check out that open window and the venetian blinds right after the train passes by!
I was going to point that out too!
Very good job selecting the backdrop for these trains. Beautiful piece of machinery especially at speed.
I lived on First Street in Castleton from 1979-2009. Some of these shots are taken near the old Hamilton Printing Company (just north of castleton ) and I especially remember the time one of these trains hit a tractor trailer at this location. can't recall if the trailer was trying to pull out onto route 9J or from 9J into the printing company but soon after that they put a red light signal up to prevent future incidents. We always joked how Castleton had a red light at a railroad crossing and a flashing blinker light at the main intersection of 9J and route 150
ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL video compilations of AMTRAK TRAINS blistering the rails! It's just mind blowing of how fast they travel! Thanks for sharing this video and I'm viewing this from the 1st state of Delaware.
4:47 What was once Amtrak P32 #705 in the phase V livery is now Amtrak P32 #705 in the Phase III Livery as of last year.
1:29 I love that sound of K5LA horn and it's nice!
1:54 the fastest amtrak train I have ever seen!!!
The Amtrak Acela goes faster than that at 150 mph, but yes that was fast for 110 mph!
I travelled on the Northeast Regional from Aberdeen to New York and the train made up to 125mph.
But 110mph with a Diesel loco is quote impressive.
you can really feel the wind through the screen! great video!
Love the way the train horn sounds.Plus the metal tires on trucks.Grinding against metal rails.
Well done video! I absolutely love the Genesis engines in that phase III livery. So menacing.
That second Crossing is the Hamilton press in Castleton New york, and I remember when a tractor-trailer got hit by the train and propelled a Volkswagen Beetle size roll of paper right through that upper brick wall, driving by you can still see the discolored bricks, after that that's when they integrated a traffic signal along with the railroad signals and tried to enhance the Crossing
That storm looked like it could produce a tornado!
I was on an Empire Service train coming back from Poughkeepsie NY. The train was moving so fast you could barely move aboard it. I talked to a very knowledgeable Cafe Car Attendant. He told me because the Engineer had no ticketed on or off between Poughkeepsie and Albany, the Engineer was doing the P32's top speed of 110mph. I was wowed when I was told the Engineer was doing 110mph. The train also got to Albany a lot faster I will admit.
I was using a GPS speed checker and It read between 105 and 110 mph going to Albany from Poughkeepsie
All Empire Service trains run 110mph between Albany and Hudson NY. The conductor most likely meant that your train would not be making any passenger stops in the 110mph section, so it would be full speed all the way through.
3:55 - Window shades as train approaches 3-story bldg.
Top video quality! Freeze video as train passes and it looks to be sitting quietly for a photo.
So I did. You're right.
A couple of these seemed like they were going even faster than 110mph!
I know like here 1:55
4:40 yeah I forgot some of them really do go that fast!
If only they did go over 110mph, it’s not because the track speed limit, the P42 genesis is limited to 110mph.
But going downhill makes a it a little faster.
no, the slower ones are probably 80 mph and the faster ones 110. The speed limit for most sections is 80 and the genesis's maximum operational speed is 110.
1:45 That train was fast!
yeah I forgot how fast they really can go sometimes
Yes!!!! Like it had wings!!!!!
5*85 +2*60 in 5 seconds. 113 feet per second. x3600/5280 = 77 mph.
@@georgelugenalt200 imperial mixed with Babylonian maths 👏👏👏
@@georgelugenalt200 I'm thinking it went faster than that
Very nice work! I haven't been up that way in years, I miss it. That's a lovely thumbnail of my favorite P32AC-DM as well. Cheers
Monica Matos: My favorite locomotives too!!!
That tracks reminds me on our rail system of my childhood here in Germany back in the 60th
Yeah isn’t it insane… Marshall plan built back Germany after all the destruction caused x2…. So that now you have great trains and we have old diesels… crazy stuff
I didn't know that the P42 genesis went 110 mph ,but I see I was wrong, great video !!!!
I didn't know there were trains other than Keystone Service and NorthEast and Acela that went over 100 mph. Wow!
Michigan too....they’ve been that way for almost 10 years now
part of illinois service too Chicago to st louis
Lake Shore Limited Chicago section also does up to 110 mph between Albany and Schenectady.
fantastic video🤝🤝
First one looked like Lake Shore Limited, with the Boston-bound cars behind the engines, and the NYC cars behind them. Locomotives with 700 series numbers are P32AC-DM, dual power so they can run underground in NYC.
I can't wait to visit New York State to record these trains. I'm doing a train review and also train spotting for 2 days. One alone the Empire Service and the other along the NE corridor
Beautiful! I've traveled from NYC to Niagara Falls on the Empire Builder several times over a decade ago and those trains never exceed 75 miles per hour...
That's quite a feat, considering the Empire Builder goes from Chicago to Seattle.
BoBo0807 pretty sure he meant Empire Service
It wasn't the Empire Builder.
Having taken the NYC to Albany route several times, it is fun to watch the speed build up on my phone's gps.
Wow!!!!! Love your videos man! Be blessed & be safe!!
Awesome video!!!
Nice to see they raised the speed limit: the last time I rode one was in 2004. Back then, the top speed for the diesels was 80mph... at least it was for my train (NY to Albany).
You must have been on a slow train. 110 MPH for passenger has been in effect from Rensselaer to Stuyvesant since at least 2000 when I ran trains there. Unfortunately I could only do 50 MPH with freight.
@@alwhalen3488 The 110mph territory south of Albany was put in in the mid 80s under Conrail.
Always wondered when MBTA will decide to do this.... lol
The first 2 felt like they were going 90
you would be correct
@@ArturoRailProductions because of the road crossings?
@@MrGeforcerFX Correct
@@MrGeforcerFX No, not because of the road crossings. There are plenty of 110mph grade crossings, including several in this video. The first few trains were going sub-110 due to physical characteristics such as signals, train length/weight, or locomotive performance. Not every Empire train manages to hit 110 on every run.
Wao super video bro
Looks like some of these went 120-125mph!!
They can’t
You should watch some 125 mph footage. It's much faster than this
Wow! Those were some FAST Amtraks!! Nice catches! New sub from Bakersfield CA
3:44 sounds like a AEM-7 now it 707 my favorite it sounds the best i saw it a couple months ago
Imagine double stacked freight trains at that speed. Should be possible to build such trains and establish special railway corridors for those speeds.
This was amazing high speed diesel P32s, P40s and P42s
Nice camera work
1:54 is at LEAST 130 Mph!
ArkLaTex Multimedia hahaha no those P32AC-DMs can’t even go 130mph. They top out at 110mph
G_B Enderman yes but no
Godzilla Legendary 2019 no genesis can go over 110mph.
Not if its on a hill and gravity helps it to that speed
ArkLaTex Multimedia / TehArklatexSpartan the speed won’t change
wow you got to see the same heritage unit lots of times in the same place Niceeeee!
3:43 is the best K5LA I have heard
Awesome spotting. I subscribe. Greetings from Calabria to Usa!
Those things were cruising!!
This is what North Carolina. rail service should think about doing increasing the speed to 110 between Raleigh and Charlotte I know a lot of people don't consider that as high-speed rail but something that expense you have to take baby steps first, we may never see 180 mph trains on that line with Norfolk Southern freight trains but 110 mph may be possible .
Barron Ingram This is the Hudson line in New York
Great vid!! But I miss the Turbos
Awesome introduction of the video I subscribed
Very fast 110 MPH
WOW!!! Many Thanks!!! 😊
Kick as video!!!
Empire Service and The Lake Shore Limited. Nice.
2:00 was 115-120mph not joking
It is!
Physically impossible. The Locomotives are incapable of exceeding 110MPH. I run them all time.
Might be able to reach 112-114mph
@@ZRHTrainspotter Not possible. This line has ACSES (PTC) and this system does not allow over the MAS at all. They also have cab signals that enforce 110MPH max and the locomotive’s also have a stand alone governor that will put them in a penalty if you exceed 110MPH as well. So their is absolutely no chance you will ever see one operating above 110MPH. Ever.
5:33 Isn't that a tornado trying to form?
No wonder why they’re going so fast, the trains are just trying not to get sucked up by tornado and YEETED across the state
Unlikely in Upstate New York.
@@dr.donchristie7093 Not really. In the countryside we have smaller tornadoes that are barely dangerous but do knock down power lines and trees.
They're still "unlikely," Ayyoltz, compared to the situation in southern and midwestern parts of the country. OTOH, given global warming, we're seeing them -- albeit small ones -- more frequently in the Northeast.
I’m just saying, I see that thing here in Kansas my ass is going downstairs
at 0:01, no one forgets the sound of a K5LA Nathan AIrchime Horn :D
do you know in 2020 if the WOLVERINE uses the the K5LA? the horn sounds different and I've been to Battle Creek and Kalamazoo.
The wolverine now uses Charger locomotives, which have raised letter K5LAs that sound a bit different. Nathan changed their castings around 2007 so the new horns longer play the same notes and also have a harsher, less pleasing tonality to them.
Just wait until the Siemens ALC-42 arrives later this year. We may be able to see 125 mph running on some Amtrak lines now certified for 110 mph--the type of speeds only achieved by the old British Rail trainsets with diesel prime movers.
Hell, the Milwaukee Road E6s achieved that in 1941. So did the F7 class Hudsons. (steam). Old school still best.
Going 125MPH with a (non overhead electric) locomotive has been done in the US since the early 70's with the UA Turbotrain and Rohr Turboliners on Amtrak. It's hardly something only the British achieved. And the current Siemens Chargers which have been in regular service for years are capable of 125MPH, as is the EMD F125 which have been in service for 5 years. So their is no need to wait for the ALC-42 to get trains above 110MPH. The ALC-42 is simply a Long Distance version of a standard Charger. It has a larger fuel tank and a larger capacity HEP (Head End Power) system for longer trains. Because of this it's actually 200HP less than an SC-44. But all Chargers are rated for 125MPH. The reason you are not seeing trains on the 110MPH routes going any faster has noting to do with the Locomotives rated top speed. It has to do with with the class of track. To go above 110MPH you need to change to Class 7 track. This means added costs with maintenance and inspections and installing and maintaining impenetrable barriers at all highway grade crossings. This would cost an enormous amount of money (well over 100 Million USD) for an increase in speed of 15MPH. Over the course of a trip, an added 15MPH speed increase on the 110 sections would shave off a few minutes at best. Hardly anything close to hours.
Speed estimates (based on count frames loco takes to pass). Assuming loco length is 69 feet in all cases
Train 1: 141 km/h
train 2: 115 km/h
train 3 : 177 km/h
train 4 : 132 km/h
train 5: 181 km/h
train 6: 178 km/h
train 7: 178 km/h
train 8: 145 km/h
train 9: 151 km/h
train 10: 184 km/h
Great Footage.
That spot by the nature trail is a great spot
Exhilarating!
Epic video!
How come the Amtrak whistles are loud and eerie like?
1:30 that was not 110. That was more like 80.
This train is the heart Amtrak of my home town
Amtrak: 110 mph
TGV: (186 mph) hold my beer
Shinkansen: (198 mph) hold my sake
Shanghai Transrapid: (267 mph) hold my baijiu
What's the point of that?
So?
That’s stupid and annoying
Who asked?
Avelia liberty: hold my Pantagraph.
Fast! Cool Video!
How did you determine the speed? They look more like 70-80 mph to me. Is any of this verified...I mean, other than by a post on the internet?
Yes. Likely by employee timetable or Amtrak press release.
@phillyslasher bruh this guy was just wondering how fast the train was actually going, like damn
I really liked that clip with 703 & 712.
❤ Amtrak you got a yellow 🚦 slow down
why do those signal clangers stop when the gates go down? is that an east coast thing?? out in Oregon they go till the gates go up!!
This is amazing footage. Is it fairly easy to set_up?
Good click 👍
1:48 That was really fast, I think it went beyond the speed limit.
It can’t do that, P32AC-DM’s which are the locomotives you see in this video are a max speed of 110
Some are actually going a few miles over 110mph because some where going downhill.
That's enough to make your hairs stand up.
LOL
Thanks great views,I model Amtrak,Geoff,U.K,.
I think the LSL is limited to 79mph because of the sleepers?
That's what I read somewhere.
Track speed 79 max for passenger trains once the LSL leaves the Hudson Line. The sleepers are good for 110, since the same ones do that all the time on the NEC.
Viewliners are good to 125mph.
@@packr72 Not all of them. Viewliner I's are capped at 110. cars numbered 62000-62049 are 110 max. The Viewliner II's are good for 125.
I was on the LSL and we did hit 110 between Albany and Schnectady according to my gps.
All trains here powered by GE P32 GENISES AC DM LOCOMOTIVES fascinating!!!
It doesn't appear that all these were 110mph catches
gda44256 Correct, one clip was filmed on the Mohawk Sub, but the rest were taken in Castleton On Hudson which is only a few miles south of Albany. Some of these train were still accelerating from their Albany departure and slowing for the signal in Albany, especially the Lakeshores since they are heavier. The Empire Services, Maple Leafs, and Adirondack were doing the line’s max speed.
When the red lights are flashing and the crossing gates are down just stay where you are for your own safety. There is no way you can judge the distance and speed of an approaching train.
where on the Mohawk Div. By Jumping jacks?
Some of these must have been going downhill, such as the last one. Some of them were going past their limit. The last train was going 114mph by the way,
1:59 Watch for the engineer of the 703 to wave at us 👋
if u pause in 2:00 u can see that amtrak driver 703 wave at him
Great videos! Be nice to know train line and location. Thanks!
Most of it is a long route 9j between Castleton and Albany New York, the Empire line
@@westwasbest Not Empire, It's the Hudson line. Amtrak runs it's Empire Service on it.
Nice piece, but a bit of tightening in the editing would make it great.
Sweet! I caught P048 with two Phase 3 Viewliners
That first train was doing about 70 mph.
That is weird how some of the heritage color units have a more shrilly horn.
1:30 how many mph was that train going?
Train length = 494 ft. Time to pass was 4.86 seconds. 494 divided by 4.86 = 101.65 ft/s which is equivalent to 69.3 mph
3:54 that train was fast!!!
they all were
Adirondack or Maple Leaf side?
wow how long is the time gap between each train?
Trains run every 1 to 2 hours in each direction, at least they did before COVID.
I've clocked a genesis at 120 they can run when they want to.
The P40, P42DC and P32AC-DM cannot go over 110MPH. it's not even possible. The overspeed will put them into a penalty between 110 and 112MPH.
@@FFred-us9tw I was in Colorado at the testing site when it was done.
@@engineersdash7564 Then it was one in testing that was geared above 110MPH (So not the ones used in everyday service) and had the overspeed disabled. What happens in testing is just that. Not revenue service. So it has no bearing on this discussion. What location and month/year was this “test” you witnessed??? The FRA certified the P42 to 110MPH. That's why when they use P42's on Reginal trains on the NEC (which happens several times a week) they can't go over 110MPH. By FRA regs, by Amtrak rules and by the gear ratio and overspeed protection. Nobody has ever "clocked one" in revenue service going 120. The ONLY places they can even run above 90MPH all have ACSES or some other form of PTC. These systems in addition to the factory GE Overspeed protection prevent going even 1mph over.
This corridor should be going 200mph
Where is this at
Check out my Amtrak Cab rides...Gp40TC(?) F40's , FL9's & Turbo cab rides....1993 & 1994
It's so fast, unlike in my country....its only 40-50mph
And yet its embarrassingly slow compared to the trains in every other industrial nation...
BRING BACK PHASE 3 FOR ALL TRAINS 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Is this on the segment of Albany to New York or Albany to Boston?
Rensselaer-NYC
@@alwhalen3488 Thanks man!
Pretty fast for square wheels.
do amtrak trains really ever go 110mph ??
Every day on this line, The Springfield Line and Michigan line. And up to 150 MPH on the NEC in some sections.
@@FFred-us9tw thanks fred. i have never seen a train going anywhere near that fast here in east texas.
Well those are Slow I know it due to the Track that are not suitable for a 125/200 KM/H.
The track there is FRA Class 6. It is rated for 110MPH (177Km)
Is this all former NYC mainline?
yes New York Central Water Level Route
@@DanMeyer80 amazing how beautiful that line has been kept up through all the years too isn't it..