Easy Rivnut Installation - How to mount a Rivet Nut Without a gun
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2023
- Rivnut Installation , How to Insert a Rivet Nut Without a Tool
If you don´t want to buy an expesive rivet nut tool, you can also use this cheap way to insert the rivetnut . In this video i show you how to do it!.
If you more like the rivetnut gun or rivetnut tool then please see my other parkside rivet nut tool video . This video shows you ho to do it. Mouting a rivet nut can be simple so quick take a look at my video voor mor information.
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What I found out is this will work once out of 3 attempts. Spent $20 and bought correct tool and saves time, material and works much better.
I never had that before, now I use the rivet gun, works the best for me
If you have had it not work even one time than it is what you have done wrong that caused the failure. Either your hole for the RivNut is to large or you have not kept the RivNut bottomed out into the hole while the nut crushes down during tightening . I have used this method many times, this is a very basic mechanical process, done as shown here the bolt “exactly” replicates the tools action.
Yes I know, it's a standard size hole in the bracket, but I have done many inserts in van builds in the past. After installation I really had to put force on them and they Al hold up good. Drilling the exact size is better so it won't spin of course. You have a good point there.
This works in a fashion providing that you can get into the workspace with a drill
I have used this technique in the past, I was able to use a standard 3/8" ratchet. Once you get it started it turns easier
You do not need to use a drill you can use any wrench or ratchet that fits the bolt. There is not a lot of force here, I have never once used a drill, it is just convenient and fast but not necessary at all. As a matter of fact the bolt method is often necessary because the actual tool which is bigger than a drill does not always fit into the needed space.
I use a lot of these on custom vehicles. I use a HUK hydraulic tool. Pricey but it is small and fits almost all applications.
Yeah I they work way more easy and fast of course.
Nice video. Thx for the tips.
Thank you. Good videography and POV's.
Well I hop to. Make better Parkside and DIY product video's all the time, I'm trying to, thanks
@@DennisDIY You're well in your way. The important thing is not to let the comment 'haters' to get you down. Your video was clear with lots of detail both in visual and spoken formats. I am an aircraft structural mechanic and used modified tools all the time because many times it's the only way to finish a job.
Thanks again.
Thank you for the support 👍👍
Simple and Genius Technique
Indeed simple, just handy to know.
Excelente vídeo, bem explicado. Tks.
Thank you, I hope it helps 👍
Thank you very much, Dennis. I love this video. You've helped me so much. I've subscribed. - Joseph
Thanks, very nice to hear that, thanks for the subscription.
Génial voy a intentarlos hé visto varios pero no funcionaron, espero que este si me. Salga bien, gracias
Good luck and let me know if it works for you
Nice. Great idea.
Thank you, make sure drilled hole is not to bif as in the video, then it will hold better 👌
Just found your channel and Subscribed. Very nice work.
Merry Christmas
That nice, thanks I hope you like it, and merry Christmas to you 🎄🎅
It made me laugh when you knew he’d trapped his fingers…hahah - Anyhow, the correct tool is quicker, produces a professional job, and does not stress or wear out the threads. Im still smiling about his fingers. 😅😅
I also use the rivetgun, this is more for if you don't have that tool. And yes the hope was not drilled and to much space, but never had problems wit this way of mounting 🙏
This is the best of all the rivnut videos I've seen. Well done.
Well it's not the perfect method and video, but it's just showing a cheap easy way. If you you it good the hol has to be the exact size.
Anyway thank you for the reply I really appreciate it 🙏
I could see applications for this. In some instances, there is limited room for the actual tool and this would work nicely
Of course it word bette with. Or working space, also if the hole is the exact size then it works fine
Some spray lub on the revovling friction parts will help performance.
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The issue isn’t the tool, the hole is too big making for a sloppy fit. Grade 8 hardware makes for a better tool. You will be less likely to get distortion from the washer. I usually chase the threads after installation as they tend to distort a little.
Rim nuts are a great building tool. I recently used them to reattach the fenders on my wife’s Jeep after I Line-Xed them. The factory POM rivets tend to leave the fenders a bit loose, with riv nut attachments they are solid.
I'm aware of that, thanks for mention it
The distortion can be improved by using some lubrication on the threads and be careful Not to over tighten you just need to crush the nut and maybe a 1/4 turn more to lock it from turning. Don’t forget the fastener ( Bolt or stud with nut )will crush the RivNut even more if tightened hard enough. RivNuts are a great invention, Simple and easy, I have been using them for decades.
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Works better if you can hold the insert itself, IF you don't have the tool
I know, it just shows a way, I to have a Tool also and a rivnut gun. This also shows the hole has to be the exact size 😂
Sweet! Trying this for trolling motor mount, the tool is having problems.
Is it,🤔
The tool I have is having problems
Maybe try the gun or the tool I used in the other video
Try putting a hex nut all the way on the bolt, screw the bolt unto the rivnut, then holding the head of the bolt screw the nut down until the rivnut is expanded.
Also a good way, I so have made another took as well. Thanks for watching and comment on the video. Appreciate that 🙏
The exact same result except you are pushing against the head of RivNut instead of pulling the base.
True
No. It's not the same. If you turn the bolt, you screw up the threads in the rivet nut. If you turn the hex nut, the bolt doesn't turn in the rivet nut and the threads of the rivet nut stay clean and nice. Just look at the threads in the video. Almost chewed up already, because the bolt was turning under heavy load. Holding the hex nut with the wrench is completely useless if you do it in the fashion that is shown in this video, by the way. In fact it's dangerous, because what has happened here, is that the bolt came tight on the hex nut first and then the wrench kicked back.
You got it right, save the threads in the rivnut.@@general1977
Will it tighten a rive nut that's already loose in the metal hole? Do I drill out the old riv nut, and install a new one? Thanks. Oh. Is the long nut in the middle of the washers also threaded, or can be a space filler.
It might be posible of the rivetnut was not proper attached. If te riven it still has some space it can work but you just got to try I guess. Important is the hole is the exact size (in this video the hole is a tiny bit to large)
Ein guter "Murks" ist besser als schlechte Arbeit 😊!
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interesting
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The knurling should be tight in the hole. The best way I’ve found is to drill it undersized then ream the hole to fit
Of course, This one is very tight, it was just for showing the simple tool, normally I would drill a perfect size hole.
But I do not prefer this tool, beter to have the gun. Thanks for the comment !
@@DennisDIY define perfect? Reamers are there because drills are imperfect
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If you score the surfaces of the nut or put a lock washer between the rivetnut and the flat washer, it will keep it from spinning.
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Hold the bolt still and then turn the long nut untill the rivetnut is in place...
That's also an option, only not if the long nut is another size.
Nice video, but the rivet nut is a bit crooked and sloppy after installation. I will buy the tool for better results. Thanks...
True, the hole was not the perfect size, I just wanterd to show the tool. A Rivet gun is easier
The tool works great but you cannot always get it where you want it this method can be used with two spanners when access is restricted.
True, I tried whit a drill that's a lot easier
Turning the bolt stresses the rivnut threads. What is needed is pulling the bolt without rotating it.
True comment, normally I use the revet gun, or the hexagon tool
You can do exactly what you want by using a nut threaded onto the bolt then add the washers as shown here then tighten the Nut down instead of turning the bolt.
The thread distortion can be minimized by using a good lubricant/ oil on the bolt threads, Also many people over tighten/Crush the RivNut. This is Not necessary, just crush the RivNut down then only Snug maybe a 1/4 turn more. Additionally the final fastener used can crush down further if it is tightened down hard.
I have also another tool, it works the same only this one has bearings on the rings , it works very fast, easy and good. See the video in my shorts.
You neglected to mention that the long nut you use in the middle isnt threaded to the bolt that goes into the rivnut. It spins loosely.
Should've explained more about why you chose the pieces and what size they are compared to the rivnut in use.
That's correct I didn't, I'll try to be beter with the details I promise that.
@@DennisDIY...It is hard to remember everything, i understand.
Appreciate the response.
Welcome, we aren't all perfect in what we do. Everyday I'm learning 😉
Yes ! I was thinking and noticing similar effects & occurrences... this is why I watch comments as much as video's...all expressing our understanding & knowledge, we all benefit from each other ‼️👍🙋
That's a fact
why did you remove a washer first when you tightened?
? I didn't, or do I mis understand you🤔
@@DennisDIYI see what he is talking about. Early in your video it shows 4 washers in total being used at the end you can see only three used. Two up top under the bolt head and only one against the RivNut.
It doesn’t show on the video but he did two RivNut installs, the first used 4 washers the second one only 3 washers. There is no reason for the difference, it will work the same with 2 washers , one at the top and one at the bottom. The washers also don’t have to be large fender washers.
Maybe I just dropped na washer, I don't have a reason for it. The washers wit the bearings work more easy
How to install the blind nut vice versa
How do you mean?
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To say what's inside, to be on the outside
I hope you understand me
No I don't
Look at the damage to the internal threads
No problem, those are only to prevent from spinning. I have Done hundreds this way. Only then with the right size hole of course.
What no final test?
What do you mean?
I made a tool similar to yours and have noticed that it is sometimes hard to keep the rivnuts straight?
Yes it happens sometimes
@@DennisDIY I got it figured out after a few tries but it would be nice to have a way so they got kept square. Practice and pressure I guess is key. Thanks for the video
Understand, practice a lot 😂
@@DennisDIY Maybe a clearance hole that the riv-nut fits very snugly in would allow les spinning & also keep it straighter. I have used this method & sometimes it works well & others not so much. I have also used the nut tightening method mentioned above with success. Have not bought a tool yet!
A Tool works easier
I'll stick with my Rivet Nut Insertion Tool......it's much easier!
Same here, but.. Not everyone has one.
I tried the wrench method, with my Arthritis it was a no go. You can pick up the Insertion Tool at Harbor Freight for under $20.
As I Said I do understand, not everyone want to buy that. I have the electric version and 2 tools,. And 20 is a good price 👍
I actually did come across some Inserts that REQUIRE a pneumatic tool to install them...........I thought I had turned into a wimp. I could not get them to crimp in nor pull in the with drill. So, I read the info sheet that came with them...(Aircraft Grade Steel Inserts).....No wonder! 🤣
😂😂👌 Probably very strong after inserted
it’s crooked
True,
Fyi. This does not work with aluminum rivmuts. It will pull the threads right out.
I know, this is more for people's who don't have the gun or the electric gun.
If stripping , pulling out or distorting the threads happens then you are over tightening the RivNut, Or the hole is too large for the RivNut. The hole Must fit the RivNut Snugly no different than a normal rivet correct hole size is important.
You do not need to crush down hard on either the steel or the aluminum, all that is needed is to set the crush down snugly then approximately 1/4 turn more. Any damage to the threads means you have unnecessarily over tightened.
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Your insert is now crooked. Your washers were too big.
True, not the exact size hole. I'm just showing the tool.
@@DennisDIY Truly unbelievable how many people do not know this is no different than a standard rivet and that the hole Must fit the RivNut Snugly!! If the hole is to large the RivNut will end up Crooked or totally fail and pull through. It does not matter if the actual tool is used or your method. The Hole must fit the RivNut Properly,Snuggly. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
True, but you know it's just show an other option to place the inserts 👍
So why not just buy the right tool for the job? Their not expensive
I have more then one of the tools (see other video ls) they cost around 30 to 49 euro
This is just a way without the tool
This method is intended for the odd time someone may not have the tool, or the right sized tool Or sometimes there is not space to use the tool, this is a perfect get by option. Everyone complaining about being crooked, pulling out, distorting threads is installing Wrong, by having the Wrong Sized Hole, or Over Tightening and this will happen exactly the same with the actual tool used.
Its more for if you don't have the tool, indeed or if you do not have de working space that's true 👍
WTF is 'sodder'?
I do not understand what you have heard. 😂
@@DennisDIYSorry Dennis - my mistake. Please disregard. A glitch in technology and UA-cam.
Can happen, and my diet language is not English of course,😂
schlecht und schief
Yes, it's just showing how it works👍
How’d the head of the bolt hold up ? Nice how you changed bolts at end of video so we wouldn’t see the head chewed up. Come on man!!!
I have a RivNut tool but does not fit all sizes,I have done this bolt method for years. So long as you use a normal grade decent quality bolt it works perfect with out any damage to the bolt. You don’t have to use a drill you can just as easily use a wrench to turn the bolt, there is not a lot of force here. The RivNut is steel but manufactured with a crush zone that allows it to crush and flare out the side to act like a rivet. This is a good video showing a cost effective way to set the nuts for someone that doesn’t want to have buy the tool for the occasional use.
Stop the video and zoom in, you can see it all. Thanks for your opinion
Use a grade 8 bolt.
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