Is This NEW Limited Release Bourbon a Favorite or Flop?
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2024
- Join us as we taste and review the new limited-release Blood Oath Pact 10 bourbon. Find out if this bourbon is a favorite or a flop! #BloodOathPact10 #SLBDrinks
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Just a quick comment on your query on Merlot and Cabernet Franc wine varieties. Merlot is a grape variety that originated in the Bordeaux region in France, but now is pretty much grow everywhere. Merlot (allow for some regional growing & climate differences here) is typically a medium to full bodied red wine that have moderate tannins, and is relatively fruit forward (plum or blackberry notes maybe), and when good can have a very full and luscious mouth feel. Cabernet Franc is also a red grape variety originating in the Bordeaux region, and was originally used for blending red wines, but is now also very popular as it's own varietal. It also is one of the parent grapes of Cabernet Sauvignon along with Sauvignon Blanc (a white grape variety), the two were crossed to get Cab Sauv. Cabernet Franc tends to be lighter in color and body than either Merlot and Cab Sauv. Cabernet Franc grows really well in the Mid-Atlantic states as far north as New York State, so you will see a lot of it made by wineries on the east coast, and other places in the US as well.
This is an excellent iteration of Blood Oath! Should have called it fever and went 107 proof
That would be pretty strange since your basically dead at 107 and every other release is the same proof.
@@apeekintime fever is generally considered to be a body temperature of 100.4°F (38°C) or higher, but this can vary depending on the time of day. Fevers can be categorized into three levels of severity:
Low-grade: 99.1-100.4°F (37.3-38.0°C)
Moderate-grade: 100.6-102.2°F (38.1-39.0°C)
High-grade: 102.4-105.8°F (39.1-
@@enotrilogyok so no 107 then 😂. Not sure there would be a dramatic difference between 98-99 proof and even 105. That’s not a huge bump
I have 8 and 9, im not a fan. They are way too muted and youthy tasting for the $120-150. Always 98.6, the 2 i have are so muted, i love calvados finish, 8 is a calvados finish and i still dont care for it, i cant justify the cost in these low proof, low flavor, low aged, high price whiskeys. I dont mind spending the money, but the juice better be good. From the 2 i have, they are not worth the money. Even at $70-80 id have a hard time buying another one. To have a calvados finish thats muted, thats pretty bad. Idk why people keep spending big money on these lackluster muted/flat whiskeys. If they would get over their "blood oath" and make a higher proof, and be even a little transparent (they dont want ppl to know they are spending $120-150 on 2-4yr juice) on whats in it, i may consider, but its their gig and they wont.
@@jacksmith2315 I can understand the complaint about the proof, fair. But you clearly have not even read the labels of your own bottles. “Low aged”, “youthy”, “2-4 years old”. Huh??? Pact 8 is: 14 year, 11 year and 8 year blend. Pact 9: 16 year, 12 year and 7 year. There are fair criticisms of this series but “low aged” is not one of them. At least not the bottles you mentioned.
We’re with you Kurt. We enjoyed it, but aren’t running out to find another. Glad we have it though.
"I'm not spending $4 on Lean Cuisine". How else are you going to afford all that Whiskey?
Good choice.
I very appreciate your opinions, thoughts and comments on videos such as this video. I almost always learn something or gain some sort of insight. Thank you...
The comment on comparing Trenton to a mule staring as new gate, awesome!!! Thank you again...
Cab Franc is the original derivative of Cabernet Sauvignon. Cab Sav mutated from Cab Franc. Think of it like a grandfather to a father. It’s very good and incorporated in a lot of wine blends, especially in France (such as a red Bordeaux)
I agree with you Kurt! 100-115 proofs can be very nice pours! I still like my cask strength.
Great review as usual 👊 Will pass on wine finished. I love wine, just not in my whiskey
Cabernet Franc is a type of grape - just like Pinot Noir, Merlot, Malbec, etc.
Excellent review. Very well considered and concise
Awesome review on this guys.
I think I'll pass on this and get 2 Wild Turkey Rare Breed bottles and pocket the $30 ish change
Hard to argue that line of thinking!
Quality over quantity for me
Most grapes for wine are red grapes. The difference between white and red wines is typically how long the skins of the grapes are left in contact after pressing the juice out. Shocked me when I learned it too. Fun facts :)
That's not really the case, most white wines are made with green/yellow grapes (if you don't believe me just google pictures of the grapes of your favorite white wines). What you're referring to is a technique called "Blanc de noirs" but it's mostly used for sparking wine, which is why you see white sparkling pinot noir.
This is apply for rose wine. All white wines are made of green/yellow grapes
You should do a few shows over the next few months of finishing pours. A run of different wines to know how the will effect the final pour. Merlot to Pinot, Sherry to Rose. These are very basic wines that you should have an idea how the effect the final product. I have been watching for years and truly love the show.
Great review; I thought it was very lackluster on the first few sips. After letting it breathe weeks later, it really opened up and changed my opinion of it; especially after a couple glasses in a row it continued to grow on me and others in my tasting group of friends. We all agree a higher proof point around 110would be better.
Just what the bourbon world needed , another limited release cash grab bottle.
They have been doing these for a decade now so I'm not sure if I would call it "Another". They are one of the original LE's of the modern whiskey era.
@@apeekintimebut they keep doing it and they still arent even close to worth the money, it is just another over priced LE. I have pact 8 and 9, and even as a huge fan of calvados finish, pact 8 still isnt even close to worth it. They're just low proof, super muted/flat, taste very youthy, super non transparent (probably because they dont want ppl to know they are paying $120-150 for 2-4yr whiskey). Its just as bad of a buy if not worth than midwinter nights dram. Theres so much better stuff out there for half the money. I have no problem spending money on whiskey, i bought close to or over 200 bottled since feb 2023, most $80-100+, many 100-160, but these just arent worth it. Id even have a hard time buying another one at $70-80. Thats how not good these are. They arent terrible, like they dont taste like garbage, but they are far from really good, borderline decent, especially for that kinda money.
To gimmicky for me and at that price its a pass. Nice review fellas. Enjoy!!
Good choice. They arent worth it. Not even close. I got pact 9 and wasnt a fan. I then won a raffle where inwas one of the last ones picked so had slim pickings. They had pact 8 which is a calvados finish, and i absolutely love calvados finish, but even that one wasnt all that good. Low proof, very muted/flat, taste super young, they are so far from transparent about whats in it (probably because they dont want ppl to know they are spending $120-150 on 2-4yr juice, from the taste of it), it blows my mind ppl are still spend this kind of money on this gimmicky barely even ok whiskey. Not even close to worth the price. Even if they came down to $70-80, id still have a hard time buying another one. I dont mind spending money on whiskey, i have close to or more than 200 bottles i bought since feb of 2023, and most of them are $80-100+ many even $100-160, but this stuff just isnt worth it. Its even worse than spending the money on midwinter nights dram. For mwnd, theres so many better port finish whiskeys for half the price its shocking people still buy it, and thats exactly how blood oath is. Theres just way better juice for fat less, its just not a good buy. Again, even at $70-80 i still dont think it would be a good buy.
Kurt: rare breed is the best whiskey in the planet
Also Kurt: I prefer 90-100 proof as a proof point
Nice review! I really like PX Sherry finished and Madeira finished whiskeys. Like Sagamore, Art of the Spirit, RY3, etc.
Ry3 is amazing, all of them.
"Ryed" bourbon just means there is rye in the mashbill. Like "wheated" bourbon has wheat instead of rye. "Four grain" containing both rye and wheat.
Thank you!
Im trying mine against my pact 9 (only other one i have) and surprised how much i like pact 9 more. I didnt at first, but its been open for about 10 months now and 9 REALLY got better after opening up. Really hope this one does too (it will).
SLB Classics
0:30 Toots practices his 😇 voice
0:54 Kurt of course did his research
1:21 Trenton is a great listener
1:41 crowd sourcing info- what’s a ryed bourbon?
1:56 Trenton absolutely doesn’t get the reference
2:03 “a mule looking at a new gate” 😂
2:27 reading and pronunciation is hard Franc - Cabernet franc is a type of grape believed to be from France
2:42 wine…(wait for it)… coolers
3:03 Kurt keeps digging his hole, but seems to be doing a good job
3:38 Kurt’s getting old
4:10 Trenton…. No…. It’s very red, get into better waters
5:05 Harry is very persuasive… Trenton makes up his own phrases, “twist my leg”
5:44 Trenton goes boldly where the boys hardly go, eating before an episode
6:48 Trenton cereal note: Apple Jacks (blood oath 8)
7:05 Trenton struggles to pronounce a word Sauterne (“so-tairn”) more French
7:23 Trenton just wants his proof
8:17 we love the Trenton spiel
8:39 Kurt only gives his personal opinions
9:25 Trenton really struggles to bite his tongue🤐
10:21 keep speaking the Woodford double oak special into existence
10:55 Trenton doesn’t mind leaving “good” ones with Kurt
11:20 Trenton starts a strip tease, maybe Toots can be your stripper name
12:11 don’t sue Kurt, he’s just guessing
13:22 Trenton will die on his higher proof horse
13:49 awkward smile whoops
14:18 nice sign off and nod
Love you guys!
A ryed bourbon is a bourbon with rye as the secondary grain as opposed to a wheated bourbon that has wheat as the secondary grain.
Shiner makes a wine barrel aged beer down here in Texas that is phenomenal. Thats about the only wine anything I've ever really liked.
Cabernet Franc is a classic wine grape variety. It similar to Cabernet Sauvignon but not near as popular. Cab Francs are used a lot in blends especially in the classic Bordeaux red blends. Merlot is a less tannic wine that stands on its own or in blends.
Pretty good stuff but you are right, it would be better at cask strength ! 98 proof is pretty lightweight !
Not worth the $150 I paid for it. Other stores around me were selling it for $200. 🥃
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There is nothing better than a deep red wine like a Cabernet, Merlot, or Shiraz paired with a grilled steak.
I got a bottle. I think it is excellent! Wish it was under 100$.
Love how Trenton almost gets the cliches by changing the saying just a bit…twist my leg
I think I’m going to need to try a pour of this one before even considering buying it
"Like a mule looking at a new gate" 😁
I was pleasantly surprised how good it is. Not worth 130.00 but it is good. Do not regret the purchase.
Cab Franc is a Bordeaux blending grape. The majority of Bordeaux wines are either Cabernet Sauvignon or Merlot. Then blending wine is added to make what the winemaker is looking for. Cabernet Franc is one of those. Some California wineries do make a Cab Franc stand alone wine.
I was expecting so much more from this release. This will be my last BO purchase. The Rebel 10 is better than any BO release I’ve had.
The 98.6 body temp is based on a study from the 19th century when that was the average of a few thousand people. Everyone's normal body temperature is whatever it is when they aren't ill (though it varies slightly throughout the day, their age, and various factors). Also I believe studies are showing that maybe the average is going down from 100 - 200 years ago.
My opinion is Merlots are middle road. Trenton may like something finished on a Shiraz barrel which is bolder and spicier with hints of dark fruit and black pepper. I’ve not seen on finished that way but who knows!
This is actually available buy online for pickup in ~30 PA state stores right now... Had it in my cart... think I'm passing though. $130 is a little too much of an ask for me for something I've not tasted. Sounds like it's PROBABLY a Turkey blend... someone said in a review they thought it was 7 & 11 & 17 yr blend... Maybe similar-ish to Disco 11... but with a wine finish? I'd rather buy Disco 11.
Like a mule looking @ a new gate! Boy thats a good one!
5:40 You know what I've always wondered: are the media samples the exact same juice as what ends up in the bottle? Would love to see if a comparison.
Wondered that, too. Would think they would put better than avg stuff in media samples, but I know at least 1 case where that was the opposite.. If you read the Old Forester Barrel Strength Single Barrel review on BB, the sample they got was not a good 1 at all, though some of those barrels are well known to be amazing. Makes it tough to pay $90-120/bottle without drinking from that same barrel, 1st.
🤔 good point!
Merlot, my fave red, is a medium bodied red wine.
Thank you!
I passed this bottle at MSRP since no age stated and 2 red wine finishes.
Maybe do a "wine finished" blind? I know there are several out there...Basil Hayden, Jefferson's, etc.
I had a taste of it and found it to be a bottle I would buy all day at 90. You can certainly tastes the wine notes in this one.
My problem with most wine finished whiskey... many distillers dump their bad barrels into a wine barrel to finish it. I've had multiple brands tell me the exact same thing. Basically if a barrel is going way off profile or they don't like the flavors they will set it aside for a wine finish to salvage the whiskey.
Now is there really any difference between a "good" whiskey and a "bad" whiskey beyond the flavor profile? Not really. So it's perfectly fine that you save the whiskey by flavoring it with a wine barrel. Depending on how wet the barrel is that is really what you are doing (see High West Midwinter). If the end product is good, then it's a smart move. What I hate though is this idea that wine finished whiskey should be marked up like crazy because it is finished (again see High West Midwinter). If the whiskey wouldn't be sellable on it's own don't mark it up to high heavens because you had to pump it from one barrel into another barrel to salvage it. Price the whiskey fairly.
Also that's one reason I'll never chase or overpay for a wine finished whiskey. They are generally stock the MD's don't want to bottle or blend.
FYI you twist ones arm. You pull ones leg.
And you pull my finger
Ryed bourbons as opposed to wheated bourbons. It just means rye is the secondary grain, does speak to ratio.
I’m not spending $4 on a Lean Cuisine - as he sips his $130 bottle of whiskey! 😂
I just can't pull the trigger on something $100+ that is under 100 proof.
I’ve got one on order, so we’ll see how it is.. 🥃🥃
@Trenton, do you guys have independent liquor store owners? Or are they all state ran?
How could lux row release it like this the finish is the most important part. I have given away 50-60$ bottles just because they have weak finshes.
Just got a bottle in Tennessee for $139
Cabernet Franc is a grape variety that's as deeply tied to France as any of the other well-known greats, like Cabernet Sauvignon and Pinot Noir.
More and more "Radar" from Mash... 🥃 Cheers
Cabernet Franc and Merlot are typically blending grapes in France. You have to go to other regions to see them in bottles by themselves. Cab Franc is a grape known more for its nose than its flavor. Merlot is a better varietal for single bottling than the movie Sideways would make you believe but it doesn't stand up to good Cab Sauvignon or Pinot Noir.
I haven't had a lot of the pacts, as they are kind of rare. Most local stores don't carry it, and only one bar I know gets it sporadically. I have liked the ones I have had, but to some extent, I think the finishing craze is a fad that needs to run its course and let us get back to whiskey.
Agreed. Super wet wine barrel finishing is a bit of a laugh. It's glorified flavored whiskey if people are being honest. I like the idea of whiskey that spends it's whole life in a wine barrel (like Sherry Cask Macallen) because that's quite a bit different. Spending 12 years in a wine cask isn't about cheating some extra wine flavor into your whiskey, it's a true marriage of the whiskey and the wine cask.
Basically, if a whiskey doesn't age in a wine cask for at LEAST 12 months you are kind of just there for the wine sloshing around at the bottom of the barrel to add some color and fruit to your whiskey.
Holy shit 450$ this is for select group
Trenton - might want to get your thyroid level checked (need to check both T3 and T4 which is not the standard thyroid test). Low body temp (which I also have) is a sign of underactive thyroid. Besides body temp, low energy, hair loss, brittle fingernails, higher weigth, moodiness, are all signs of low thyroid hormone.
Thank you for the info buddy! Will definitely check with my doc.
1:57 Trenton's a little slow on the uptake. 🙂
Lux Row makes a barrel proof 7 year shelfer under $80…Old Ezra. Put it in a blind
I think they need a Blood Oath Fever Edition at 103 proof
I bought this on release day at the distillery for north of $150. Jealous that you guys got it at $130, but I don’t think it’s worth that price
I've had several of the blood oath bottles. They all suck. Definitely not for me.
Swill 🤮
Isn't lux row and lux co two different companies?
Should have done a 110 and called it High fever
that would be death - or at minimum brain damage. I guess you could call it that - Blood Oath Pack 10 - Brain Damage.
I've always seen this as a cash-grab and marketing ploy. And there's really NO way I'm paying $130 for a "98.6" proof bourbon. Thanks for your review. I'll pass again this year.
Wine finished whiskey?!? Oh, come on now 🙄
I do not like this one at all. But maybe it will improve when it gets below the shoulder.
I was able to find 2 bottles way under MSRP, just over $100 each. I was only going to buy one but the girl working the counter all but insisted I buy both bottles they had, so I happily obliged. Haven't had time to open yet though. I did see another store local to me had 2 on the shelf at below MSRP also. Always interesting to see how prices vary across the country.
Where is this magical place where bottles are on the shelf, let alone *under* SRP?
@@BrianBegnoche I'm in Oklahoma. Not sure how I lucked out but normally there's nothing at SRP here. I did see another store with the BO 10 on the shelf and it was $199. They had a museum case full of bottles I wanted but wasn't willing to pay for.
It's not an expression where I will run to grab a backup. Not too impressive.
Trenton is a lizard confirmed
Blood Oath 9 was mediocre and overpriced for a good pour in an expensive box. Pretty much sounds like the Pact 10 is the same. Think I will get the Little Book over it.
Honestly, any American whiskey in a box is usually a bad deal.
@@apeekintime with Wild Turkey’s current Master Keep pricing I would agree. WT used to be the exception to this but not anymore
Lean Cuisine Bourbon pairings show!
Not wheated bourbon.
I have pact 8 and 9. I got 9 first, its ok, not reallt worth the money. Then i won a raffle and there wasnt much left to pick from, i got the pact 8 since i typically love calvados finishes, even still, it wasnt all that good and not worth the money. They are very muted and fairly youthy, at $120-150 for 98.6 proof whiskey that fairly muted and youthy, i will not buy another. Idk how people keep spending $120-150 on whiskey that is super muted and flat, low proof, taste like 2-4yr juice, and they are so far from transparent, it blows my mind they still get away w these ridiculous prices on this lackluster, low proof, very flat/muted, low age, non transparent whiskey. If they actually put some age and proof into a release, i may consider, but they wont. I do appreciate your videos though, at least those are always good and i can look forward to them.
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Wow, your guys’ lack of knowledge of wine is shocking 😂. I think the higher proof argument is getting pretty stale for these releases. They are what they are, and if you’re a proof hound, just skip it. Personally, I’m with Kurt, and happy to see some LEs being at a moderate proof. There are plenty of incredible pours at lower proofs out there, cask strength is not the only good way to make a whiskey.
Yeah, no thanks.