Taxiway meltdown! - Struggle to Find the Runway!
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
- I have my pilots license, but I am still learning. I started not to make or post this video since I know I will be opening myself up to scrutiny. Having said that, I always want to be as transparent as possible about my aviation journey. This video will show an important aspect of flying that many people don't talk about. Taxiing is just as important than flying. In this video, I struggle substantially to get to the active runway. Check out the video, don't forget to hit the thumbs up button and please subscribe to the channel. Let's fly!
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Trust me brother, and I think I can speak for all fellow pilots when I say this: we’ve all been there! You said the most important point which is even though we are licensed to fly, we are ALWAYS learning and we’ll continue to learn. Swallowing your pride is a must in aviation. Safe flying!!
Agreed
Thank you so much. Yeah, this was a little ego. Bruising for sure. That’s why I wasn’t gonna post it at first, but then I would feel like I wasn’t being as transparent as I promised myself, I would be when I started this channel. Anyway, thank you for the positive feedback, in this comment. It really help me lick my wounds! Take care.
@@RusscanFLY Keep up the great work, love your channel!
I needed this video, thank you for posting it!
My pleasure Brother Ken! I’m glad it was helpful. The most important thing I want to be is a resource for other pilots. Take care!
Russ - That wasn't so bad. You did everything exactly right when you realized it was overwhelming. On the initial clearance you realized you didn't comprehend the entire route and asked for a progressive taxi. When you were unsure you asked for them to repeat.
Tip: Use the taxi diagram in foreflight and traceout the route (especially at more complex airports)
Hey brother, Carlos, I appreciate this positive feedback. I have to confess I felt like such an idiot. My brain was like, nope I got nothing for you big fella! Anyway, I’m glad to hear that I did the right thing, because it was the only thing I could think to do at the time. I was really twisted in knots. Anyway, definitely going to watch ForeFlight on the taxi diagram a lot more next time. Be well, and thanks again for the positive feedback!
Thanks for sharing the video. Trust me your not alone when it comes to complex taxi instructions. I like writing out taxi clearance to help me, so I had a pen and paper ready, with no idea what the clearance was going to be, and I even struggled writing it down. I feel that she could have given it a little slower…. But, it was nice for here to then give it back to you step by step… Good job brother, keep going to those tower control airports.. love your videos!
Thank you so much, brother! Coming from you, the soon to be commercial pilot, that means a lot to me. Yeah, I was really struggling to keep up, but I figured I would bail and ask for progressive taxi instructions. Anyway, thanks again. Oh, and by the way, congratulations on reaching 1000 subscribers! Huge mile stone. Nicely done! Keep grinding!
Don't be embarrassed! You did precisely what you should have done! It's a lot better to ask for help than to try to bluff your way through a confusing situation. What you did is the mark of a good pilot. More people should do the same any time they're not sure about what to do. This is a great example for other pilots who are learning to be good pilots. Glad you posted it.
Thank you brother Bill! This definitely makes me feel a lot better about posting. I have to say, I felt really inadequate, so my ego was definitely a little bruised. I did figured that if they can have somebody else, that’s what this whole UA-cam journey is all about. You definitely help me feel better about posting this video. Take care, brother!
Great job man I really enjoy your videos brings back some good memories are used to fly out of Northeast Philly, same airplane when it was Hortman aviation.
Hi Bill, I'm not going to add my comment to Russ's video post this time. Your post is exactly what I am thinking so I am just gong to give you a thumbs up and agree with your comments.
I am so glad you decided to post this; it's a great lesson for all of us, students and experienced alike. It was nothing like what I thought it would be based on your intro. I, personally, think you did everything right. You asked the controller to repeat, and when it was obviously more complex than you expected, you asked for progressive taxi. How many new pilots would even remember to do that. I will admit, I thought it was going to be very different because of something I got to experience. Last year I was flying with another friend of mine, we were both new pilots who trained at non-towered airports. Anyway, I flew the first leg and landed at a towered airport, taxied to the FBO and took a short break. Things went well. My buddy took over, got the weather, all the basic checks, the normal stuff. I was looking at my tablet, checking our flight route home, not paying much attention when all of a sudden it dawned on me that we were moving and my buddy was just happily heading out to the taxiway without contacting ground first. Luckily, we both caught it before we got too far along. He was super embarrassed but it all worked out.
Wow, that must’ve been really freaky. I can’t imagine what would’ve happened if he would’ve continued taxiing without having contacted ground control. I wonder if that would’ve been a here’s a phone number to copy moment. Anyway, yeah, I was definitely going to think about not posting this video just because it was so humbling. But, that’s the nature of this, UA-cam journey them on, I always wanna share the good the bad and everything in between. Anyway, he will brother and fly safe.
No shame in “Progressive Taxi” also helps to draw the route on the taxi diagram as Ground is giving instructions in Lieu of trying to write it all down, gives you a mental picture….
Been There Done That
And will most likely do it again!!!
Thank you so much for that brother! I definitely don’t know what happened to my brain. It almost felt like I was watching a Charlie Brown Christmas special or something! Completely froze! Anyway, thanks for the support. Take care and fly well!
Proverbs 16:18. “Pride comes before a fall.” Your humility teaches us so much and is a blessing to us new aviators. Thx Russ for your videos. You are helping so many pilots!
Thank you so much for this comment. It really means a lot to me since my goal is to be helpful to other aviators. Thank you for the kind words and the support. It really is edifying. Be well!
No need to feel badly about this, that’s the craziest taxi instruction I’ve ever heard! You did the right thing, very good judgement on your part!! The ATC was super helpful, she would much rather help than see you taxi somewhere you shouldn’t go. Great job my man!! 👍
Thank you so much! This really means a lot coming from you. I consider you my pilot, big brother, as well as brother Bill up above. Thank you so much, I feel better about posting this video now. Peace!
Really appreciate you putting this video out. I don't fly yet but I was worried about hearing and following taxi directions. Its nice to know that people get overwhelming trying to get all that info. Great decision making to ask for the progressive taxi, versus taking chances and running risk of a runway incursion
Thank you for that! Yeah, I was worried about running into somebody, because I made a turn somewhere else that I wasn’t supposed to. So, I definitely ask for help. Be well!
As soon as she started giving the taxi instructions I started sweating, and I’m just watching this on UA-cam! Yeah that’d be a progressive taxi request every day of the week. Great job.
Brother Josh, you had me cracking up on that one! Yeah, after a while it sound like I was part of a Charlie Brown special or something. I had no idea what the heck she was saying at one point. And then when I try to get my brain organized enough, it just shut down on me. I don’t know where progressive taxi came from, but I’m just so glad the words came out of my mouth. Thanks brother, and thank you for the phenomenal support.
Good job. That was alot to copy ...remind me of Lancaster airport on examination day... brain hurt still from over a year ago
I actually laughed out loud on that one, brother! Yeah, I got really confused. After a while, I just knew I had no idea where I was supposed to go. Fly well, brother!
I remember one day talking to one of the executives and I had a brain freeze. I was embarassed but he was so patient with me. That moment taught me that I have to be patient with other people to. I am grateful I learnt something out of that meeting.
Absolutely! Being gracious with people allows others to show you the same grace!
Thank you, Thank You, Thank You Russ, this is the first time I have heard and seen a progressive taxi and you have just helped me learn so much from your experience. Progressive taxi is nothing to be ashamed of. It’s a normal procedure that in my opinion hardly ever gets utilized. Great Job Russ! Great job 👏👏👏
Thank you so much for this comment. I was really worried about posting this video, because I definitely didn’t feel to competent during this taxi. I had studied the taxi diagram, but for whatever reason as soon as she started talking, and then corrected the taxi instructions, only to give me different ones I really just couldn’t get my brain to comprehend what was being said. since I knew I was having some difficulty, the only thing I could do was to ask for progressive taxi. I had never asked for it before, but I always heard that it was a thing. So, I definitely appreciated how patient the controller was with me, because, as you can see, even after I asked for it, I still needed her help a couple times. Anyway, thank you for the positive feedback, and the encouragement to continue to be transparent even when things don’t go perfectly. Fly well!
Russ, this may be your best video yet!
I’m not religious but I always say that God loves an honest man, and you have no idea how many people you have helped with this content. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼😌
I am still student for my PPL and I’m sure there’s loads of people who have done the same and worse.. we learn from our mistakes, as long as we learn.
A real person, a real pilot, a real channel. Well done mate !!!!!
Scotty
Thank you so much, I really appreciate you taking the time to send this comment. It really helps, because sometimes I feel way too vulnerable sharing my abject failures. But as you said, the whole point of this channel is to help others in the aviation community, see that there are things we can do when we make mistakes. So I really thank you for the support, and the kind words. They really mean a lot. Fly well, and keep me posted on your progress!
Good lesson for all of us. It’s ok to ask for help if you need it. Appreciate you posting this.
Thank you Saul for the positive feedback. I definitely had an ego bruising moment here, but I always want to make sure that I’m transparent on my channel. Take care!
Bless you my brother. Great things.
God bless you, brother, Randy! I pray all is well with you, and I really appreciate your continued support and prayers. God bless, brother!
It’s alright it happens, I saw a 737 at MCO that took the wrong taxiway! Great video keep them up!
Thank you so much for the words of encouragement. It really means a lot to me! I was really hesitant to post this video, because I felt like such an idiot. But I definitely learned from the experience. Thanks again!
Great Video Russ, Keep up the GREAT work
Thank you so much, brother Reginald! I appreciate your continued support. Be safe.
Russ can fly!!! this has been the hardest part of learning to fly for me the Radio's and taxing!!! my plane is parked at a class D towered airport KVGT North Las Vegas NV I sometimes go into a brain freeze and feel stupid as hell but I know it's all going to be ok one radio call at a time Thanks for your video it reminds me that I'm not alone!!! You got this
I hear you brother! I did all my training at a non towered airport, so talking to ground control is not my forte! I started not to post this video given the embarrassment factor. Having said that, I’m glad that others can feel that they are not alone. The struggle is real! Fly well!
LOL we have all been there. the first time solo to a controlled airfield ow man the sweat dropped of my head .
I’m actually cracking up right now! I definitely hear you. I just can’t believe how much my brain just shut down on me. It was definitely nuts.
Once a person obtains a ppl, that's when the real learning begins. #superfacts!!!!! Glad you taxied safely to the rwy for takeoff. God bless the woman flight controller. Have a safe and blessed week. #salute my gud brotha!!!!!!
Thank you so much Brother! It is definitely clear that getting a pilots license is a license to learn. And as you can see, I still have a lot to learn. Anyway, have a great week Brother.
Captain Ross! Awesome job! I've been there and it is a very humbling experience! Thanks for sharing!👏👏👏
Thanks for letting me know that I’m not the only one to have this experience. It was definitely humbling for sure. Play well!
Thanks for sharing. She was awesome! This will help wannabes like myself.
My pleasure! And you were absolutely correct. She was awesome! I really appreciated her patience.
Hey Russ! I’m just now looking at getting a sport pilot certificate and I’ve really enjoyed binge watching your videos!
Thanks again, brother Craig!
I haven't soloed yet...and now I'm losing my mind. LOL. I understand getting that brain freeze, currently it happens to me as I'm on final and I can't think. Well done, Sir!!!!!
Thank you Michelle! Yeah, you can see that even after 200+ hours of fly, I still go into vapor lock every now, and then. We just have to give ourselves some grace, to keep fly and keep learning. Let me know when you do that solo! Fly well.
@@RusscanFLY How I found you: I was looking for vids with pilots experiencing turbulence, another one of my hurdles. After I watched that, I went and found your very first vid. It's funny, I sold my last Harley for flying lessons, so it's neat to find someone who loves two wheels as well as aviation. (I used to work at HD of Washington DC before moving to SE Ohio) If you ever plan on landing at KPKB, holler and my husband and I will show you around the area...by car at this point. LOL Fly Well!
Thanks for sharing. my instructor always says use all your resources. Good example with this video.
Thank you so much. I agree absolutely with your Cfi. I will say I use these resources out of desperation. My brain was fried! Take care.
Great video Russ! I don’t fly but this was very informative to me.
Brother Don! Thank you so much brother. Yeah, this was kind of a crazy experience for sure. I pray you and sister Gina are well. God bless!
Russ - you did the right thing asking for progressive instructions. What would have been a mistake is proceeding without being certain.
Along with having the taxi diagram in front of you, just like an instrument clearance, take the time to write down the entire instruction. One thing that helps with this is learning a good shorthand method.
Your short hand suggestion is a good one. That’s something that I definitely need to come up with, especially as I go into more complex air fields. I kept trying to keep up with the instruction, but then, when she corrected it, and then was really in vapor lock. So that’s a great the suggestion for sure. Be well!
@@RusscanFLY What used to mess me up were the crossing runway instructions. When I get one of those, I write the runway number down and draw an arrow through it. When I get a hold short, I put the line above the number.
When I get a right or left turn for a taxiway, I’ll put an arrow throw it in the direction they want me to turn.
It’ll be fun to watch your IFR training.
Taxiing is tricky even if you brief it. Even harder at night. At least you are aware of the risks and taking the time to stay safe.
Thank you, Brother! I can’t imagine trying to have done this at night. I probably would’ve been a sobbing, massive humanity at that point. Anyway, flywheel, brother!
Maybe hard to humble but Smart and Safer!
True, indeed! Definitely better to be humble and safe, then cocky, and stupid.
3:44 RIGHT DECISION. My hat is off to you. Exactly. Tell them that you're "unfamiliar" ("first time here" accomplished the same thing) and asking for progressive taxi alerts the ground controller and everyone else on frequency that you're going to need a little extra help. You needed it, and you asked for it, which is exactly what you should do.
I have over 500 hours, and and IFR rating, and I fly out of class C airports all the time. In the luxury of my office, without pressure, and with a 2-minute pause to study the taxi diagram, I can figure out what they were getting at. But those instructions read out like that were a mouthtull.
5:22 Also another good move. When you got to the runway you were to cross, you read back the crossing instructions on frequency, which helps to verify that you're doing the right thing, and it legally protects you (slightly). And you also looked clear as you approached, which is another good move. Nicely done.
Thank you so much for that. I definitely got desperate at one point, and didn’t know what else to do other than to ask for help. I was so brain twisted, that I couldn’t make heads or tails of what she was saying. I was so like I was in a Charlie Brown Episode. Anyway, thanks for the support, it really means a lot. I was definitely a little insecure about posting this video, especially given the fact that I seem to not know what I was doing at all. Thanks again!
I flew to PNE the night before I had shoulder surgery last month for dinner….I had a similar route; was parked at Atlantic FBO. On the Uber ride back to the airport, we pulled out the chart and went over anticipated routes; and we got exactly what we briefed. I picked up tips like that from all my airline friends; brief brief brief. Once I start the engine, and get the ATIS, next thing is taxi diagram and anticipate route; also helps to know when you have D-NOTAM and some taxiways are closed. And during my arrival briefing after I brief the approach, I go over the taxi diagram also.
Yeah, that’s excellent advice. I had briefed, but definitely not enough. The other thing is, I was feeling under confident, so I was already stressed when she started to talk. After I heard about five different directions, my brain just went into vapor lock. I may have been a little bit more confident had a brief more, so your advice is sound. Thank you for taking the time to write the comment, and provide such great advice.
@@RusscanFLY you did the right thing, and never forget your PIC, take your time. You get the route, review it, then move the plane when you’re ready and comfortable. Cover all your bases, and you’ll be fine.
2:20 her call to you was a LOT for us newer pilots! I noticed your readback started with taxiing on J and ended on J. heh.
3:40 great job confessing!
4:30 don't feel like an idiot, man.
thanks for "posting your L".
Yeah man, my brain was in straight vapor lock! I felt like I was in a Charlie Brown episode or something, all I heard was blah blah blah, blah blah, blah blah! So yeah, I figured I would post my L so that Foots can see that sometimes it goes down like that. Anyway, fly well!
When you said ..... I have no idea what she just said ...... Exactly!! That is my biggest fear .... not being able to repeat back this Loooong string of info.!! Couldnt even write it fast enough. :(
Yeah, Kris, that was my issue exactly! Staff was coming at such a rapid rate, I couldn’t even think straight to write it down. But now I know, for next time to look for certain Cuse, and to use ForeFlight to help me out. I guess I got so nervous, did my brain kind of shut down.
Bro as soon as she started talking i would have said speak slowly 😂
I know that’s right! 🤣🤣🤣
Yo Russ, this looks like to me that you didn't use a capability of foreflight.. Did you know you can draw on the runway diagram? as tower is giving you directions, just draw a line as fast as they are talking... You should have a little avatar as you taxi over the line you just drew.
I didn’t know you could actually draw a line. I seen the taxi diagram, but I’ve never tried to draw a line before. I’m going to break up my ForeFlight tomorrow and check it out. Thanks for the suggestion brother!
I am learning quite a bit more about this INSANELY powerful app as I progress through instrument ground school. It can really help a pilot out!
Omg Russ I feel your pain! I feel like such an idiot when I cannot repeat instructions back. Being a pilot definitely helps keeping your brain sharp. the ultimate alzheimer fighter. lol. you're doing a great job. I only hope to do as well and get better with every flight.
Yeah, aviation is definitely a humbling thing my brother. I learned a valuable lesson. Brief everything! And make sure you know alternatives just in case another runway is closed. Be well!
@@RusscanFLY that's a fact! I will also say for me, definitely have a pen and pad and jot down those taxiways with the lefts and rights in shorthand. c> d< r22 etc.
tower puts that memory bank to the test lol
The lady in the tower was the ATC when i solo'ed.
That’s awesome! She definitely made life easier for sure.
Great job, The larger the airport the more difficult ground taxing can be. Asking for a progressive was the right request. Blue Skies!!!
Thank you so much! Yeah, my brain just went into vapor lock for some strange reason. I figured, I might, as will humble myself and ask for help. Anyway, fly well!
That's just an experience you will be ready the next time
True, indeed! Definitely tell me a serious lesson for sure.
Salute 👍🏿😎
Yes, indeed!🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿
If no one said already.
Write down the taxi. Then foreflight has notation, so you can draw the route on the taxi diagram
Thank you for the great advice! I really did try, but for some reason, my brain was just not cooperating. I think I psyched myself out, since I was already nervous about not taxiing to the runway, I’m used to taxi to. Thanks again, and hopefully next time I’m able to be better prepared. Fly well!
That ATC person twice corrected what she said which made it even more confusing.
Yeah, it was a lot! I was trying to follow, and then my brain just went into vapor lock or something. It was so weird. Once I saw what she was saying, I was able to gather myself.
I would've just said f it and went heels to the floor full power on the taxiway😂😂😂😂😂
Kills to the floor, full power! 😂😂😂
@@RusscanFLY lmao!!!
Good move on progressives instructions,KPNE ground and tower are very patient
They really are! As you can see, my brain completely went haywire on me. I was glad ground control was willing to help a brother out. They definitely are awesome up in the tower.
I think you’re being a little hard on yourself. I’ve heard IFR clearances easier to read back! You did good and the right thing. Everyone has this happen. You did it right. Slow down. Ask for clarification. Good job. I think you’ve got a fantastic attitude.
Thank you so much for this amazing comment! It definitely makes me feel better about what happened. It’s hard to eat a hefty, helping of humble pie, sometimes, but I did promise myself I’d be transparent about what happens during my aviation journey. Thank you for the support, it really means a lot. Be well!
Every time I go to 24 I ask for a full length take off put the cards in you’re David brother
That’s good to know. I’m not gonna lie, that was the first time I went to 24 most of the times I’ve taken off at PNE, it’s always been 33. That’s what I get for being complacent!
11:30 You made no mistakes. You got in over your head with the taxi instructions, and BEFORE LEAVING THE RAMP you made sure that you and your airplane were in a situation that you could handle.
I landed at George Bush Intergalactic in Houston, mis-understood a taxi instruction, and got yelled at by the ground controller. You did much better than I did.
Yeah, I was worried about getting yelled at, but I was really didn’t want to have a runway incursion. I knew at some point I had to cross the runway which in theory was an active, but I just didn’t want to say for sure. I definitely need to develop a better short hand, especially if the instructions change mid instruction, Mike would happen here. When she started to rattle off the instructions, but then changed her mind, that’s when my brain went into a complete vapor lock.
Yo! Can I go fly with you?
Any time! Hopefully one day our path will cross, and we will fly!
Following your progress/videos and always best to fly it safe and one day you will handle flying the ground just as well. Do you access your aircraft through Legacy and how does that work for you as far as expenses? PS. My home is under the PNE airspace and even fortunate enough sometimes to see the Frontiers pass over the neighborhood when they use their 6/24 runway. Do you know Chris who flies that 1965 Orange/Beige/White Mooney N5599Q out of PNE? That will do it. Clear Skies! 🛩
That is true, my goal is to be just as safe on the ground as I am in the air. I do access rental aircraft through legacy. You have to do a check out, do a written exam, and they have to fly with you to see how you fly. Once you do that, you’re allowed to rent that type in class of aircraft you checked out in. then you pay for the plane every time you rent it by the hour. I don’t know Chris, but I think I’ve seen that Mooney. Anyway, thanks for reaching out, and following me on my journey. Take care!