Beach Fishing - Barton on Sea - pulley dropper rig comparison with up and over
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- Опубліковано 27 лис 2020
- Looking to repeat my PB small eye ray from the same venue. I take this opportunity to try out the pulley dropper rig that was requested on the channel and compare it to my favourite, the up and over.
I have plenty of bait but find out on the beach that most of it is still frozen. Luckily the sand eel defrost quicker than the rest and on they go.
The pairing of Century Fireblades and Penn 525 mag 3’s work well but I am still experimenting with reel position.
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Brilliant fishing mark really enjoyable watching thanks
Glad you enjoyed it Dave, it can be a cracking mark to fish. 🎣👍🏻
Good show again mark always love your manners and delivery . Very entertaining and lots of tips .... keep them up mate
Cheers Matthew, your kind words are very much appreciated.
Great video Mark. Great name too. Interesting comparison of rigs. I particularly like using pulley rigs and the up and over. Thanks for sharing.
I tend to use pulleys and up and overs although recently I’ve use 2 hook flappers more and have a video in the making of one of those with a twist.
Another great vid,Thanks very much Mark.
Cheers Ian. 👍🏻
Great video Mark. Looks like that drop down pulley rig really does work.👍
I think it may work better if it was a bit longer.
Always enjoy going out with you !! Best way is to show it how it is,which is what you do.Everyone has there own preferences,weather it's rod,reels,line,keep trying different ways to find what you prefer and suits you.
Obviously I edit my films and I chop out tons of stuff. Mainly talking to myself or acting like an ass but I don’t hide anything and what you see is who I am. I’ll keep on mixing things up by trying stuff out or it will all get a bit stale. I enjoy trying these things out but if you asked me for my ultimate set up I think I already know.
Usual standard Mark. Always informative, impartial, honest and lighthearted.
Enjoy watching.
Hope you got your battered sausage and chips on the way home.
Should have ordered a takeaway and left it in the final video. Lol
Cheers Ian, I managed to catch a chip shop on the way home. 😊
As always mark brilliant video always look forward to them 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Cheers Lee
Loving the channel mucker, good stuff 👍
Thank you, much appreciated.
very good fishing equipment friends ... good job 👍
Pleased to see you so happy and to be out fishing m8 , lockdown really sucks at the moment being 90mins from the coast , not sure of the true ethics of travel !! But hoping all good things happen to those who wait 😤 tight lines m8 👍
I did think long and hard before going fishing but I did stick to the Angling Trust guidelines for both boat and shore. I hope it hasn’t upset people.
Been following you for quite a while Mark very enjoyable and informative living up in Lincoln, only get to fish your coast once or twice a year so very useful too, please keep up the great work, many thanks
Good morning Nigel, if I can help in any way for your occasional visit feel free to contact me and I’ll try to help. 👍🏻
Thank you for your support. 🎣
@@seaangling many thanks Mark, very kind, will be in touch when travelling is more permissible if that's okay, tight lines for the moment.
Take care, stay safe. 👍🏻
Great video. Barton is so so different from when I use to fish it. It was one of my go to spring/summer venues. I think I use to fish to the right of where you were. Battered sausage and chips definitely the way to go. I like a tub of curry sauce with mine.
I was lucky to catch a shop before they closed, jumbo sausage and chips. 😊
Nice one Mark a couple of decent size tings,tight lines
The biggest ones I’ve seen from a beach have been at Chesil.
Hi Mark... When you lower your reel ,you also have to change hands and control the reel with your left hand. Also with the imps , if you push the hook holder through to the opposite side of the link and put your hook in there you`ll find it keeps everything clipped so that you can ground cast .
Good luck
I have been looking for a casting coach to help me set up correctly.
Interesting what you are saying about IMPs, I think I know what you mean but I will certainly check it out.
@@seaangling It works ok Mark, I've used them with hooks upto 4/0 big mouth extra's with no problems at all. Good luck with your casting and fishing 👍👍
Nice one Mark Great video as usual 👍
Thank you
Love yor vids buddy keep em coming Matt,Webby , Josh, Sean and ginge
Thank you.
Great vid really enjoy them learning a lot as I’m realy new to fishing keep up the good work
Glad it helps Alan. 👍🏻
A trick: watch series on flixzone. Been using them for watching a lot of movies these days.
@Musa Peyton Yup, have been watching on flixzone for since november myself =)
@Musa Peyton yup, I have been using Flixzone for years myself =)
yet another great vid mark, will be making some of those rigs for when i go to weymouth and bournemouth next holidays mate , well tight lines and happy hunting on you next trip out fella.
2 very nice Sandy beaches. Southbourne is worth a visit.
Another great video mate I fished Solent two nights back no one else in the spot I chose for miles ..( was slightly worrying) whiting and a couple of pup smoothies and a dog so for a short 3 hours was not bad keep them coming buddy
Not bad for the Solent. 👍🏻
Great video and guess what we wanted by the end of this video,... you guessed it CHIPS lol, good old tings, tight line's always 🎣🐙🐟🐟👍✊
Thanks 👍
Great vid and good to see you comparing the two rigs... Maybe need another session or two to make a fair comparison, and maybe when the winds aren't SE..... Even if just catching a multitude of tings this might help in the overall assessment of the rigs.... Nice to see you prepared to learn something new yourself and share that with us all 👍
I didn’t mention the wind direction but confident that it plays a role.
It wasn’t a complete comparison and more of an early indication. I need to make a longer version of the pulley dropper.
Great vid mate I'm defo reel down reel up just feels weird now lol on your other vid I took your idea of separate hook snoods but I prepare my bait at home and bait elestic it on so its ready for when I go fishing doing that I recon I've saved some decent time in my setting up
I have prepared baits before so all I need to do is put on the hook.
Brilliant video mate..all my baits that goes out for rays or any fish for that matter are frozen solid...I'd never defrost a bait as its looses blood.. scent... for me the longer the ray baits out without a whiting...conger ect this time of year the better👍cheers Mark🎣
I usually like my bluey to be frozen but everything else cold but thawing.
Very Nice comment on sharing marks etc 👌 dont think you should give everything away ,,,however why not help others ,,,,👍👍its a shame to many selfish people about who wouldn't even give you a worm if you ran out 🙄👍however angling in general is a sport were most people help others let's keep it that way ,,,,tight lines everyone 👍
I have met loads of other anglers who love to help others. It wasn’t meant as a rant but the idea of having more time to enjoy what we do and so many give up at the start through frustration.
Hi mark love the video havnt fished Barton yet one of my places to get to where did you park up was it by the ice cream parlour looks around that area we were plagued by tings last weekend taking 5/0 pennels as well including fresh Whiting from the ones that did not make it they were throwing themselves up the beach like you the beach was deserted weird!! Tight lines mate
Yes mate, park there and then walk the long slope. If you decide to come this way let me know and I’ll do my best to meet up.
@@seaangling thought I recognised that bit of beach love to join you let me know when you are next down there mate and I will try and get down cheers mark
Enjoying your videos , interesting shock leader, asked a friend of mine for shock leader 18 in to 70ib about 15 years ago, he worked for a Japanese company beginning with V .
It is perfect for clean ground or when the hook snood can be 15lb line.
Most of the tournament anglers use the tapered line both on multipliers and fixed spools.
I would use I on cleaner ground or with a rotten bottom on rough ground.
I use Trabucco 0.50mm for my shock leaders and rig bodies.
My main line I've switched to Fisheagle monolith red mono in 15lb . Cheap line but lays and casts really well.
Definitely a clean ground set up but very nice to use.
Great video Mark, as always. Quick question, where did you get the tapered line from?
It was mail order and I think it was veals. I’ll check and add a link. If I’ve still got the spools I’ll put a picture up on the community tab.
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Hello and welcome. 👍🏻
Barton on sea is 5 mins from me and was my first spot when I got back into fishing this year with my 15 year old gear. I got totally weeded out and haven't been back. Might give it another shot. Still on the hunt for my first ray.
They do show here and I had no weed at all on this session.
enjoying the videos keep them coming have u got a favourite bead colour combo for flounders or Flatties on a wishbone rig
Orange and yellow for flounders, black and green for plaice. Both are very inquisitive and sight trigger hunters. Movement is as important, either tidal or mechanical.
@@seaangling cheers for reply just watching your 2lb whiting video will try them colours out cheers
I had to stop sea fishing due to back problems but it's still fun watching videos.
Sorry to hear that but if watching me get cold, frustrated and blank helps, 👍🏻
@@seaangling every bit helps, lol. Still watching while responding.
The Scotland Skate trips with fish from a boat and from the shore would keep you occupied for a couple of hours. 😉👍🏻
Great vid ,have subbed and enjoy your channel.Here in Australia we don't generally have to cast miles as our beaches are deep close in and the fish holding gutters are within easy casting range.Hence thee isn't a need for clip down rigs.Myself I use multipliers so thinking of trying your drop down pulley as it may make things more aerodynamic when it's windy.
Hello and welcome. What part of Australia do you fish, I’ve only been to a few areas down under but loved them all.
@@seaangling Hi Mark I live in South Australia,and do all sorts of fishing but my favourite is beach and surf. I fish mainly lower Yorke peninsular for Australian Salmon ,Mulloway,,and smaller species.If you google lower Yorke peninsular surf fishing ,or Innes national Park these are the general areas I fish.Love your content mate keep up the great work.
Thank you for the kind words. Amazing place on the planet that you live in.
All done
Great video mark would be interesting to see the reel stripe down 👍👍👍
I’ll look at how to film it.
@@seaangling
Another great vid Mark. I would definitely like to see the multiplier reel strip down as well please.
Hi mate blinding vids mate . Quick question. What tripod you using and is it any good .
Reason I ask is I’m just getting back into it after 25-30 years.
I have the standard Leeda ICON tripod and like them enough to have 2. The standard most go for are the Ian Golds in the 6’ size which may be a little lighter but more expensive. I like the Leeda ICON.
Hey Mark great video again. How did you get on with the tapered line? I've been thinking about using it so you opinion on it would be really helpful. 👍
It is a joy to use and very slick without the joining knot. The line is coloured at increments so you can see how far you have cast apart from counting turns. I think line discrimination will play a stronger part to maintain it as intended.
@@seaangling If I may what's the tapered line called?
I'm glad I caught this video. Would Barton be a cod venue? My daughter lives overlooking the sea there, but I've never fished that beach.
I’m not sure about cod although it is possible. I’ve not caught one there.
Hi again mark....why the switch to multipliers.... is pendulemed cas for many years with them, but found them awkward and fraught at night time conditions
Good question and in short it is simply variation and I like trying different things out.
I have swapped back to fixed spool for night time hound and ray fishing atm.
My latest target species are sting rays and I’m off out in the small hours on another attempt. I’ll be using Century Fireblades and Daiwa BG’s for this. I also like the simplicity of fixed spools when after larger fish at night. 🎣👍🏻
Squid and sandeel
Went small eyed and caught small turbot big or small we love them all
Turbot is an interesting catch from the shore, what bait were you using?
@@seaangling squid sandeel
The silver belly strip from mackerel is known to be good for Turbot.
Thanks for a nice video Mark..
A bait question mark,
Do sand eels work on any beach for bait..sound stupid I know..
I’m not sure if I’m honest. I bet there are some on here who could comment. There are some fish that actively target them and so it could be species particular. Sorry if that doesn’t help. Try them. 👍🏻
@@seaangling
It’s worth a go on Littlehampton beach.🏖
Thanks mark 👍🏻
Nice video once again mark!,
Reel position looks a little awkward now, once you have moved the reel down too far you have to swap hands on the reel.
I am slowly finding these things out but thank you for the heads up. I have been trying to source some coaching but that hasn’t been easy with COVID restrictions.
@@seaangling you should be able to find some pretty good help from anglers on the beach mate for sure..
Mark. where abouts have you been fishing at pool Harbour,is it the road on the way to the chain ferry .
Shore road.
many thanks Mark. ps.great videos.
That used to be my local beach as I lived in New Milton. Have not fished there for nearly 40 yrs as had a bad accident and unable to walk up and down there.
Hello Dave. The pathway slope down to the beach is a long old walk. I broke my foot last year and it still gives me gip especially on slopes.
I would be really interested to hear about the rigs and tactics you use to use. Im sure there is something I can learn from how you did things in the past.
Thats my black bream spot in the summer had some big bream there
I’ll have to put that in my little book.
Black Bream on Hurst Shingle Bank too.
Great wee vid as always.When are we going to see Jasper the fihng hound?
I thought he made an appearance on the smooth hound video but he is full on. I have to be careful with him because he will run, swim sniff himself to exhaustion. I’ll try and get him on film next time he’s out with me. 👍🏻
Sorry mate but deffo a loon 😂😂😂 love you really💙. Another stonking video well done Mark.
Thank you, I think 🤔 😂😉
My mk1 525 mags i run them with rocket reel ceramic bearing with a single drop of yellow rocket reel oil in they are great bearings
All will become clear when I strip it down. Do you have a link for the ceramic bearings?
@@seaangling look on the rocketreel company.com mine are£19.63
@@seaangling Blak Dog tackle are great for reel parts & bearings Mark. Good guys to deal with.
www.blakdogtackle.com/index.php?cPath=91&osCsid=5pin1622d8qov613549jc7n6k0
Great video Mark. Something that stood out was the excellent sound. It didn't matter whether you were in front of the camera or off down the beach to cast, we could hear every word without any noticible wind noise. Good Flippy Floppy tail action there - where was your gas stove & pan? You could have kept the hunger at bay with 'Ting fillets but without the chips! Proud to be part of the Mark Williams 'Ting Tackle club! 😁😁 Well done & thanks - stay safe & well. 👍👍
The video quality has always been good but I have been working on getting the sound to the same standard. Pleasing to know that it is noticeable and hopefully if adds some quality to the filming.
I have another element in order and hope to preview that soon. 👍🏻
Live and let live
Hi mark found one of your original stickers yesterday I was well chuffed so glad I got 3 it's now on my table for uploading rig and review I'm having trouble with fillet knifes
I know you covered your sharpening kit are you still using the same kit and what is your go too fillet knife as I need to master filleting I've been so lazy and had either my dad he said time to grow up ya 52 😅
or a matey do fillet for a
fillet 😂 so yeah will you do an upload on your knife choice please 😊
I love the original sticker but I do prefer the latest version. I have had my filleting knife for years and it all comes down to the blade really. Narrow and flexible that holds a good edge. I have been looking to upgrade mine but can’t find one I prefer. I’ll show it in another video. 🎣👍🏻
@@seaangling yeah that will be great never really thought about how Important a good fillet knife was as I just used for baiting up till now will look out for the video
@@mromro3032 I would suggest you need 2 knives. One bait knife which is a smaller, stiffer blade that can take some abuse and a filleting knife kept sharp/honed.
@@seaangling I have two bait knifes I will get a fillet knife just for that purpose 👍
Are they sealed bearing races on those reals if they are its a shame that you have to change them after only a few sessions.
what reel oil do you use.
I’m going to strip it down and have a look.
Think I recall Mark uses Gun oil?? I am sure he will tell ya but decided to field that one as I was reading. 😂
Yes, gun oil which is a high grade oil. The other reel is fine but one definitely needs checking.
The bearings can be changed I've upgraded mine to ceramic bearings runs so much better and mark is that the tronixpro blaze tapered line ?? And keep up the good work mate
Try proper 'reel down' mate. Set the reel about 9-10 ins from the butt cap. Grip the reel with your left hand, upper hand should be about the distance you'd have between your hands in high reel. You'll find you can slow the cast down, spool grip is better, and the rod bends more! Try it. It's not for everyone, but once converted high reel feels a bit cack handed. Keep the vids coming!
I need some proper tuition otherwise I’m guessing.
@@seaangling plenty of casting vids on here. Fishing TV also have a cracking casting series with Peter Thain. Keep at it. It really is worth a try for a couple of sessions though👍
Hi I’ve been looking at getting a bigaloo but everywhere is out of stock or discontinued any idea why or where I can get one
They will be ordered in batches from China. The originals and design will have been a different grade/quality and then it gets given to China to make cheaply. Mine is a China version and not perfect.
@@seaangling Somebody in the tackle trade told me a few weeks ago that due to Covid there were thousands of containers awaiting customs clearance at the ports. Lots of stuff has been out of stock and most of the USA tackle stores had empty shelves. I tried to get a Surfblaster a couple of months ago and no stock anywhere - I ended up buying a Mitchell Blue Water RZ9000. Penn & Mitchell are part of the same group anyway - it all comes from China!
Try gerrys
Any fishing wagon updates available mate? Cheers
I lost some footage and want to try and get out this weekend and re-film it to get back on track.
@@seaangling excellent. I loved watching the first couple of parts. Also just realised that you bought your boat from Craig who lives not far from me! :)
Craig was very patient during the buying process and a thoroughly decent chap. I’m lucky to have bought the boat from him. Say hi from me if you see him soon.
This guy has to be Ed Staffords twin brother surely .
Walking the length of the Amazon is easy compared to trying to pluck a flounder out of the Solent.
If the barring are on they way ain't the reels under warranty still they will be covered mark
Not if I’ve had them apart and been tinkering.
@@seaangling befor you have them apart lol I meant to put that in there
I’m happy to strip, inspect, replace etc. It’s the sort of thing I enjoy doing. Beavering away in the workshop. 😉
what line is mark i wanna have ago at it
Not sure what the question is buddy?
@@seaangling on the reels you where using what tappered like was you using
i like the fact that you didnt have to a shockleader knot
I have been using ASSO Ultra-Cast mainline but another alternative is the Varivas Sport which is also popular.
For shockleader I use either ASSO Ultra-flex or their tapered shock leaders.
I was using the all in one tapered line/leader in this film which means no knots but haven’t gone back to it.
@@seaangling what was thie line/leader on this film called as i wanna give it ago
And you went with out me lol
Sorry Dan, can you forgive me? 😕
Always
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@@seaangling will watch it shortly stuck watching something with the mrs
Enjoy 😂😂😂😂😜😜😜😜😜
Another brilliant video.
The f***ing adverts are killing your channel bud.
Personally I can't stand these adverts.
All the best and tightlines bud
I’ll check it out
@@seaangling very much appreciated Mark.
I look forward to seeing your videos, they are informative and fun.
All the best 👍