as a citizen of Shanghai, I didn't even know people could live and work on the tower. I always thought it was built for good-looking. The funny thing is that while I'm typing, I can see the tower from my window.
It's an ugly poorly designed building. The Curved structure doesn't exactly appeal to renters. It looks like it is bent or leaning. They didn't make the floor space for renters. It looks like a tall smokestack Trbovlje Power Station
The original world trade centers were hard to fill up with occupancy for similar reasons. I don't know about One World Trade Center, but I grew up with the Twin Towers and visited them a few times as a kid and always heard my uncle talk about how they were losing money because companies were not moving in. This would have been in the 70s and 80s.
@@V0YAG3R you might use one of those to stash all your homeless junkies in los thirdworldeles! All that californium air seems to have your brain rotten!
Skyscrapers and condo towers should be demolished. No city can handle such a population density. Shitholes such as Las Angeles, Toronto, Tokyo, Shanghai being among the worst.
Actually here it's too small from inside, double layer of glass and the formations at the upper half result in small floors which are both expensive and not effective at all... ya can just rent a bigger floor for less money somewhere else ma man
The title almost sounded like you meant failure from an engineering standpoint...And if I'm not mistaken all you wanted to say was that rent is too high
@@l123u6 If you present a plan to your boss that causes the company to have more losses than gains you will be fired. Economics is the life blood of engineering. No material or money means no buildings.
The Empire State Building was completed during the early 1930s, and was mostly empty for several years. At opening there was pretty much only 1 tenant above 7th floor, and for almost the entire decade there wasn't even elevator service past floor 40 other than for the observation deck. The building wasn't profitable until the 1950s. I could see a similar situation for this building.
@@danmcclaren5436 yeah, but the depression ended by the time WW2 started when FDR took the brakes off the economy (and killed the failed New Deal) and let the war industries ramp up to supply the allies and the Soviets. The building still took till the 50s to turn it's first profit. Timing is everything when it comes to big projects.
@@opalyankaBG No it was empty because it was inconveniently located at the time. 34th street was not well connected public transportation-wise with midtown in the 30's.
Amazing what they can do with $1BILLION per DAY from the U.S. for the last DECADE via the trade deficit, along with lesser amounts for DECADES prior to that, along with a ready supply of virtual slave-labor.
Yes but many Chinese citizens are still extremely poor. So hooray for the wealthy Chinese and communist government. But what a shame that the only Chinese people you meet outside of China are fairly wealthy or laborers.
I’ve been to Shanghai and this building was stunning from an aesthetic perspective. The fact that it disappears into the clouds on a hazy day also makes it quite beautiful.
Saddam Hussein No one should want to live in Paris either. Unfortunately, it’s hard to avoid NYC as a multinational company. Even if you’re business isn’t in the US.
“Megatall” skyscrapers like the Burj Khalifa are not completely habitable. In fact, the top 37% of the Burj is uninhabitable for structural and design reasons. Of the 63% that is usable, 20% of the residential space is empty along with 50% of the office space. These towers are icons more than anything.
Ok so get this take the word satan and Minus the T in the countdown they say T minus and counting right!!! Hmmm yes minus the T from Satan and you are left with NASA with a Red Snake Tongue as dipicted in nasa logo, people they are telling us but you dumb sheap cant see it, now is your chance to be the dumb sheap but maybe live slightly longer and try not to die with your tongue hanging out the truth in plain site but you cant see it! Nasa is absolute fakery, bill nye from nasa said there is nowhere to go we live in an enclosed system, nowhere to go, obama said we cant get past low earth orbit??? WHY obama why cant we??? so that means we didnt go to the moon right! YES absolutely correct! he told us not me!. WHat did Hilary say she said we have not been able to break the glass dome above us but thanks to you it has 18 milion cracks in it???? WHAT hilary??? so there is a glass dome over our heads!!! ah ok that makes sense because it tells us that in the bible for once satan told us the truth and so did obama. Trump said one day you will wonder how we did it without space??? What so there is no space Mr Trump yip no SPACE im not say this people they are not my words see videos on youtube easy to find!!! Satan has to tell you there plan in PLAIN site then its up to you dumb sheap to figure it!!! and if you dont you end up a dead sheap with your tongue hanging out! as dipicted in St Peters cathederal hmmm they used your money to show you that you are all dumb dead sheap with your tongues hanging out! nice people right!! YIP but its actually true unless you WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!
I lived in Shanghai until recently. The key fact not mentioned here is that there are great concerns about its structural integrity. The ground that it is built on is in fact very soft and therefore is prone to leaning. Several of the buildings nearby have been proven to have tilted and the local government refused to allow tests to be taken to see the latest angle of lean. That scared away many of the businesses.
The Chinese government would like to give B1M a very special behind the scenes look at Shanghai Tower and would like to offer complementary one-way air travel. Pack lightly.
These supertall structures are not usually constructed for their economical sense. If people used economic logic to make decisions on buildings then the world would have very few skyscrapers. Most of these supertall towers are all about a sense of pride for the country and city.
Well I mean for every other country with skyscrapers they use them effectively and the tallest skyscraper in the world the one in Dubai is used very effectively, every single part of it is used. plus it is logical on an economic sense, people want more space and land is pretty expensive so one way to grow is to build up and ask any engineer or architect they will tell you the same thing that nothing is wrong with building skyscrapers once they are done right and have all the safety procedures, and yea they do also make the country look good. The reason why I'm talking about this is because I'm studying to become an architect and I'm on my last year.
@@dominicpersaud1155 Well, and I am a Quantity Surveyor and on my last year of MSc in Civil Engineering. So yeah I also know what I am talking about. Read up on the history of all the tallest buildings in the world, particularly the government-sponsored projects and you would realize they struggle with occupancy during their early years. The payback period for such a building is so long, at least 12 years and rents have to be kept sky-high to return the investment. However, after some years the rent might go down or the rent of the rest of the buildings might catch up with it.
Yes I went up to the observation deck and into the counterbalance enclosure on a visit organised by its marketing and facility managers. Great building, fast lift ride to the top. TD
HYPED UP .... you realize the twisting design was done by the engineers to reduce the need for structural steel by 25%? Engineers are not good designers. They’re good calculators.
Taylor Lee architects are the Walmart version of engineers sorry but a 6 year old can come up with a random design but can't realistically build it without engineers.
Actually part of it was because of America's 2008 financial crisis. China put in a massive stimulus to build, and is wildly successful now with 90% occupancy rate. America got the world in trouble, China always ends up saving the world.
Rednalyx You should never explore Shanghai or any cities on Google Maps, they are outdated by 5-6 years. Use baidu maps or apple maps for China. You will notice how extensive it is now.
As a citizen who lives less than 3 miles away from the tower, I have been in the building several times. The building is one of the emptiest and loudest in the district. I've been in one of the small scaled cafes in the building. I can't remember clearly but the cafe was on around the 100th floor. Every 3-4 minutes, an elevator would pass by the cafe causing an extremely loud noise lasting around 2 seconds. The noise would shake the building intensely, causing a small earthquake in the building.
"Sustainable" *50% of the floor area is unusable* (due to its dumb shape) Yea I'm not convinced. 'Sustainability' is thrown around too much these days...
The thing is, the tower is double glazing system, the round core(colored in the video) is office area(commercial use), and space between curving elevation and core is hanging interior garden which shows in 3:54 - 4:04, for social activity and interior environment adjustment (also mention later in the video), which means "50% of the floor area is unusable" is just bullshit. The problem of the tower is not the design, it's management issue , and it do happend in lots of Chinese city like Tianjin Binhai harbor district and Erdos. But this video is so misleading and I have to consider they are mean to do it.
@@philipcyx2690 Agreed, It seems like this guy is trying to say they gonna charge for that unusable space..And most importantly, you can not call an architecture "failed" until it's been shut down before its life runs out or actually fall like twin tower or etc.
The reason is always the money, right? Here, students can't find good apartments they can afford yet we build expensive houses when we finally build something...
In North America just few months ago, farmers poured milk down the drain because there is an oversupply due of closing of restaurants. Same reason, they need the price controlled instead of donating them or selling them any cheaper than the tolerance level. If they do donate the milk and the milk price fall, farmers will also eventually be the ones that need donations.
@@aeternavictrix7861 i said North America. I am living in Canada. Farmers poured 30million litres of milk down the drain to stabilize the price, was in the local news. Same thing in similar scale also happened in the US, I suspect.
@@fosphor8920 that's the worst. The university I went to they tore down the old buildings and built new luxury apartments on campus. Apartments that students can't afford.
Ok so get this take the word satan and Minus the T in the countdown they say T minus and counting right!!! Hmmm yes minus the T from Satan and you are left with NASA with a Red Snake Tongue as dipicted in nasa logo, people they are telling us but you dumb sheap cant see it, now is your chance to be the dumb sheap but maybe live slightly longer and try not to die with your tongue hanging out the truth in plain site but you cant see it! Nasa is absolute fakery, bill nye from nasa said there is nowhere to go we live in an enclosed system, nowhere to go, obama said we cant get past low earth orbit??? WHY obama why cant we??? so that means we didnt go to the moon right! YES absolutely correct! he told us not me!. WHat did Hilary say she said we have not been able to break the glass dome above us but thanks to you it has 18 milion cracks in it???? WHAT hilary??? so there is a glass dome over our heads!!! ah ok that makes sense because it tells us that in the bible for once satan told us the truth and so did obama. Trump said one day you will wonder how we did it without space??? What so there is no space Mr Trump yip no SPACE im not say this people they are not my words see videos on youtube easy to find!!! Satan has to tell you there plan in PLAIN site then its up to you dumb sheap to figure it!!! and if you dont you end up a dead sheap with your tongue hanging out! as dipicted in St Peters cathederal hmmm they used your money to show you that you are all dumb dead sheap with your tongues hanging out! nice people right!! YIP but its actually true unless you WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!
Same thing in India. Philosophy of increased Adharma or imbalance. In fact, that's the very foundation of Dharmic civilization which is maintaining Dharm/Balance and its philosophies influenced the east. Obviously now it's very different and the western worldview has taken over. It's unsustainable in the long run and we will eventually see a paradigm shift.
I've actually visited the tower in late 2018 and i went on the observation deck. It is a magnificently beautiful building from up close and truly amazes me how it was built. Nice observation deck, 2 levels and 360 degrees of views. Shame about the low occupancy rate.
@@ronmalvert2387 Empire State is another example of a, more or less, failed office tower. Empire State never became an important office building in the New York market in spite of its iconic status.
@@tiffys Would also be amazing for accessibility! Give wheelchairs a way to avoid elevators when only going up a floor or two (or down any number of floors)
I've been to Shanghai several times, and could see those skyscrapers from my hotel. Truly fascinating architecture to look at, though I didn't know about the problems when I was last in Shanghai. I just admired the architecture.
Failure or not, I've been to the top and it's very impressive. The elevator goes 45 mph and you don't feel any sensation of movement, just a vague slight g-force. A few seconds later, you're on the 118th floor.
From a purely aesthetical standpoint, I love the look and petal-style shape of the burj, as well as its almost space-elevator sky-stabbing style, which makes it feel more futuristic. But from an engineering perspective Shanghai Tower wipes the floor with it, near uniform width all the way up, and a clever spiral form rather than the steps and thinness of the burj make it a testament to what is possible. It was clearly designed as a building, not as a monument.
It seems like a common thread among mega projects, I hope the building is a success ultimately - the architectural concept is amazing. Did you know that this is the only skyscraper which is built inside another skyscraper? The inner skyscraper was built from the ground to the top, then the outer skyscraper was built from the top to the bottom and only has a floor about every ten floors. This gives the effect of the entire height of the building essentially having access to a street scape / park like outer space. At least that’s based on what I imagine having watched documentaries about the architectural philosophy and construction technique of this building. Regardless of it’s economic success, it is an amazing building that China should be proud of and I hope that ultimately it is an economically sustainable project as well.
That's not going to happen. They want tenants to effectively pay double the rent. Rent 50,000sq ft but you can only use 25,000 of it. It just isn't a good business decision. Skyscrapers are built to efficiently use floor space and maximise its use. China wanted a monument more than they wanted a competitive skyscraper. You can a have an efficient skyscraper or a monument. This is one of the worlds best examples of what happens when you try and do both.
Its not even that amazing and all three of those buildings are surrounded by cut buildings, buildings with floors that almost have half the height of manhattan buildings, therefore making it seem like they are 60 stories tall and then these three massive spires jut out in the center. Thats what they want you to think, that there are three megatall towers in the center. The truth is neither three of them are as tall as they say, no one's ever questioned or been able to question them on width compared to other towers, height, and floor difference not to mention the front floor. Some buildings are more art in that they deceive, more than art in that they are spectacular. Take for example Dubai, notice the ridiculous glass tenants surrounding the insanely "tall" tower Burj Khalifa, and how they all look far shorter than Burj Khalifa. Now take Manhattan for example, notice how it has trouble showcasing its tallest towers. Probably because it isn't surrounded by towers with odd proportions like in dubai, and strange low condos across the water from it. The average height of most of Manhattans buildings is 35-40 stories, so expect that and taller to be surrounding The Empire State Building, vanderbilt, 432parkavenue, bank of america tower, hudson 50, and the super thin tall's on the 57th street billionaires row. There's competition everywhere around it...but in Dubai, I think there's desert-oasis condos-and vague glass floor towers that barely look 40-60 stories made to look incredibly tall when they are next to 1 story homes and those weird condos on the water fountain man made lake thing.
Seems like the tower was built for conspicuous vanity rather than economic sense. It's like how the Olympics often operates, or like the palaces of the past.
I recall staying in the KPF tower while this thing was going up. It was the middle of the winter and crazy cold outside. I watched as welders spliced the steel sections for the composite columns at the building perimeter. Zero tempering of the steel while welding incredibly heavy sections under super cold conditions. Scary!
Outside looks is the number 1 priority when it comes to skyscrapers. Tall buildings have to consider the wind load and how it can be canceled upto an extent so that the building doesn't falls. Look at the construction of burj. Even the start of the foundation was designed to further tackle wind loads.
I worked in Shanghai from 2014 - 2015 and took many photos of this building, especially at night. I left Shanghai before it was completed, and never actually got across the river to have a close look at it. Kinda common to be worked into the ground over there... 😕
Well think about this. If you fall and hit the ground, ur heart will no longer be racing. :] win-win Edit: you'll be on the ground and wont have a racing heartbeat. What's not to like about winning?
The dome in London next to the Thames was a failure after it was first built, now 20+ years later it is a great success. Having visited Shanghai once (World Expo 2010) and seeing the way the city was being developed I am sure there will come a time when this tower will reach its' potential.
The millennium dome was a vanity project, only when it was sold did it have to earn its keep.... China has built a few projects to impress the world, most are now costing the country dear,
As a Shanghainese, I actually like this video a lot. The tower is a beautiful structure that succeeds to be an icon for the city but fails economically. I believe it would be a painful lesson for the city and we need to face it and learn from it.
@Ashish yadav eating bats is not a widespread practice in China. The population of China is larger than north America and south America combined but you aren't generalizing us even though there are groups in people that also eat bats on these continents.
Now that working remotely from home has become accepted, cost-saving, and efficient there's no incentive for companies to pay huge leases for office space. Buildings like this will never be profitable in a post COVID-19 world.
I lived in China for three years. One thing I noticed right away was how they would always build these elaborate designs to their tall buildings. Especially near the top. You would see these wild designs. I was told it was because they wanted to outdo the next buildings design. It was like who could outdo the other guy. I have to admit some of the designs were really cool looking. Even though they might become impractical. Like this tall one in this video.
This competition thing has been happening as long as there have been skyscrapers built. NYC was probably where it started in the 1920s, each new building trying to be taller than the previous one. I hate China but don't ding them on this one. They're playing the same game that everyone else does.
@@demef758 yes but a game that stopped being practical decades ago. It’s one thing in the past to race to be the tallest, or most opulent, but as this video pointed out, compromises in design were made to create this shape, leaving huge areas of useless floor plan.
I live in Shanghai for more than 5 years and I am amazed by the way this city works. Yes, maybe the Tower has failed economically but the city is safe, clean, rich, and vibrant. You can feel it in the air. And the fact that it has become like this in less than 30 years amazes me even more. Yeah, sure it has its flaws, for instance, the real estate prices are through the roof and I can't imagine how people here can afford the mortgage. But same happens in LA, London, Toronto, and other metropolitan areas around the world. This city is a great combination of old China and the modern 21st-century city. Can't recommend more to visit it when the borders are opened for tourists.
Another problem is China's financial center shifting more and more to the Pearl River delta making the area in and around Shanghai less attractive for new businesses.
@@curtiswoodley1658 You have cities like Guangzhou and Shenzhen where you have most of China's new tech startups and you can get to Hong Kong on train in 15 minutes. Just look at this link. www.visualcapitalist.com/pearl-river-delta-megacity-2020/
My first investment with Mrs sasha gave me profit of over $24,000 us dollars and ever since then she has never failed to deliver and I can even say she's the most sincere broker I have known
I went up there in 2017 and although the views were quite impressive, I thought that the Shanghai World Financial Centre had much more character and was ac much more enjoyable experience ( partly due to being able to walk on the 100th floor and to also be able to eat at the 94th floor ).
The building itself is very impressive, just economically difficult to manage. But that seems to be the case for any mega tall skyscraper around the world.
i gotta disagree man, since every building mostly looks like a rectangle, there wouldnt be a shining spot for the tower, night would be worse as since, in the skyline thatll most likely be the most seeable thing, but it would be empty
@@Kiwibirdman1701 Not in Edmonton. Even the Stantech tower is suffering with high vacancy rates. That building has one of the highest vacancy rates in the city in a city with bleeding office buildings losing tenants by the day. The whole city is going through severe withdrawal symptoms from the oil crashing in price for such a long time. Oil is the social economic hard drug.
Its because Alberta is bleeding jobs due to the move away from oil. Yes we still need it, but technology is trying to use less. This means efforts are focused on extracting from easier locations, as there will be no shortages anytime soon. I really hope Albertans can focus on finding new ways to create jobs and funds, their future depends on it!
@@joelennon432 I have long thought it would be an amazing concept to build super tall skyscrapers made for ordinary people! I would love to live up there at a reasonable price💚
@@@leapdrive isn't possible without conspiracies and foul plays as they did.our nation's are straight forward thinkers,they think about each and everyone.
@@leapdrive The Philippines? Philippines' gdp per capita is only 1/3 of China's. Also relying on tourism for gdp growth is very unsustainable, I mean look at Greece, they were so promising back then, now they are stuck in terms of growth.
in my opinion the Jin Mao Tower is still the most beautiful out the three, i really like the use of traditional chinese architecture, it gives it like more personality
@@energyflowswhereattentiongoes oh I’ll take it. I prefer to make it all transparent, but with cover. Like maybe a transparent tube all the way swirling down. Exciting yet relatively safe
Well as a local Shanghainese I actually worked in this building for a while as an intern…I didn’t expect much from the building except for an office place, an observatory platform and a big statue…
Ireneusz Pyc asset managers who then package the debt as bonds who then sell it to investors. So I guess ultimately it’s mom or dad that buying an income fund. Heh.
Apparently no one involved in the development of this project thought about the prospect of abject failure once the tower was completed. Again the scale of the completed tower is magnificent but truly frightening at the same time.......
For any architects/architecture student watching this video ; that picture of a plan with a small occupied square in the middle looks so dumb. It's crazy that the architects thought it was okay to leave that much empty space on every floor.
Thomas Martin The space in the middle is all the lifts and toilets etc I thought. The “empty” space is the actual office space and the odd shape that this left was what the narrator was highlighting as poor design as it didn’t enable efficient fit out.
@@jasond3918 You're right, that's all the services and lifts. I still don't understand why they wouldn't have extended the floor area all the way to the window walls though
Thomas Martin it was done that way so they didn't have to cast 128 unique floor plates. The organic form meant that every floor has a slightly different curvature than the previous. The tower is actually a cylinder. The glass facade is an external skin held by space frames, so as to achieve the beautiful twist. The drawback is that you have terrible efficiency. On top of that, a circular floor plan is very difficult to efficiently space out as most of our furnitures are rectangular and spaces are generally better utilised in rectangles.
Aoi Kemono Shanghai’s pollution situation has gotten so much better over the years. I remember back in 2014 it’s almost >150 everyday, now it’s usually between 30-80
@Xeder He's probably referring to the pm2.5 micro-particles index, which has gone much better for real since the government has been trying to move coal power plants away from cities
@@jx8829 "for no reason" besides lack of basic human rights, running its citizens over with tanks, no freedom of speech, information, religion. We don't hate China. China is awesome. We hate their government.
@Chen Uy Trains don't make sense across Canada the U.S and Australia other then existing cargo trains. You have to go through native lands which cause issues and in areas of Canada the temperature ranges from -40C to +40C which causes maintenance issues on tracks especially high speed trail tracks. Two airports with aircraft can do the same thing without fucking up hundreds of miles of land.
Considering how many chinese structures end up shortly after construction (looking at the chinese dams and ghost cities), it'll likely mirror that story shortly.
@@ihadforeskinwithporkbellyf9306 well considering that it's a tower featured in the Bible that was supposedly struck en down with the wrath of God, I'd assumr most haven't been. Especially since it likely didn't exist/was metaphorical.
I'm getting so fed up and tired of "sustainable", "green" bs. Especially by people living in cities, the most polluted and destroyed places on earth without wildlife or real nature.
The thing next to the tower looks like a giant bottle opener.
012vinc Yep they each have their nickname in China
Looks like a potato peeler
You mean the Shanghai World Financiel Center.
you mean the financial centre thingy
They call it that in China
as a citizen of Shanghai, I didn't even know people could live and work on the tower. I always thought it was built for good-looking. The funny thing is that while I'm typing, I can see the tower from my window.
Must be a beautiful view
@@HowDoU24 yeah but even the most beautiful scenery will be boring after watching for too many times. haha
@@alias19 I live in Yangpu district, where is not close to Pudong. At night, it's good-looking.
@@mahiankhan3406 yes, many ppl in China use VPN. is it strange?
@@zhewu9052 Yes because it's illegal, and if a Uyghur uses a VPN, it's considered an act of terrorism.
Failed completely economically, but is still a marvel of engineering.
Yeah,but still not worth $2.4 billion dollars
@@LudicrousTorpedo Definitely worth 2.4 billion. Even the Burj isn't profitable, but I'll be damned if it isn't good looking.
David Scholz Till it falls down
@@LudicrousTorpedo which is not helping our Earth to improve just wasting money for show off..
So f off..
It's an ugly poorly designed building. The Curved structure doesn't exactly appeal to renters. It looks like it is bent or leaning.
They didn't make the floor space for renters.
It looks like a tall smokestack Trbovlje Power Station
The original world trade centers were hard to fill up with occupancy for similar reasons. I don't know about One World Trade Center, but I grew up with the Twin Towers and visited them a few times as a kid and always heard my uncle talk about how they were losing money because companies were not moving in. This would have been in the 70s and 80s.
Same thing happened in the 1930s with the new "Empty (Empire) State Building." It remained half empty, well into the 40s.
I can say, yes One World Trade Center did have problems with occupancy and still has office space available as we speak.
Becauss nobody gonna pay those unreasonable prices for status for nyc that place is park ave.
I guess it is sort of expected tho right? It’s happened many times
@@jashanestone I would be scared to move in too shit lol
skyscrapers are the epitome of "just because you can; doesn't mean you should."
If by skyscrapers you mean skyscrapers full of Chinesium then yes, you're correct!
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@@V0YAG3R you might use one of those to stash all your homeless junkies in los thirdworldeles! All that californium air seems to have your brain rotten!
@@jeanxza5395 you fool sky scrapers are important
Skyscrapers and condo towers should be demolished. No city can handle such a population density. Shitholes such as Las Angeles, Toronto, Tokyo, Shanghai being among the worst.
@@felixwankel3989 have you heard of a country called SINGAPORE
It's like my minecraft house: Incredibly huge and majestic on the outside, but too big for anything I own on the inside.
Just add some mods...
I feel this man.
You could build farms, decorative things, even totally pointless rooms.
“So continuing the tour, here is piano room number 56”
Actually here it's too small from inside, double layer of glass and the formations at the upper half result in small floors which are both expensive and not effective at all... ya can just rent a bigger floor for less money somewhere else ma man
The title almost sounded like you meant failure from an engineering standpoint...And if I'm not mistaken all you wanted to say was that rent is too high
Rent being too high is the result of it's engineering. SO yes that's an engineering failure.
Ergzay Eh no. Engineering is engineering, not about rent. So unfortunately I think you mixed up money with engineering? I’m not sure
@@l123u6 being economical and efficient is an integral part of engineering
Feldan Tang In the sense of ethics of engineering, you are right.
@@l123u6 If you present a plan to your boss that causes the company to have more losses than gains you will be fired. Economics is the life blood of engineering. No material or money means no buildings.
The Empire State Building was completed during the early 1930s, and was mostly empty for several years. At opening there was pretty much only 1 tenant above 7th floor, and for almost the entire decade there wasn't even elevator service past floor 40 other than for the observation deck. The building wasn't profitable until the 1950s. I could see a similar situation for this building.
I think the Great Depression had an effect on that lol
@@danmcclaren5436 yeah, but the depression ended by the time WW2 started when FDR took the brakes off the economy (and killed the failed New Deal) and let the war industries ramp up to supply the allies and the Soviets. The building still took till the 50s to turn it's first profit. Timing is everything when it comes to big projects.
@@joseph1150it was also build in order to create jobs and nationalism reasons. Though know while building it was not going to be profitable.
Ok so it’s been a few years. Is the building profitable or at least filled yet?
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To be fair the Empire State building was known as the "Empty State Building" for its first decade or two.
Due to the Great Depression. No economic crisis is setting back the Shanghai tower.
Yoan Mitov Surely 2008 had an affect? And looks like we’re going into one now, so....
Empire state building is EMPTY AGAIN due to coronavirus
@@opalyankaBG No it was empty because it was inconveniently located at the time. 34th street was not well connected public transportation-wise with midtown in the 30's.
Dinta Doba IKR were all gonna die.
It’s just like when the Empire State Building opened, it was initially called the empty state building and remained unprofitable till the 1950s
I was going to post the exact same comment.
You forget that we were in a recession, and China is “supposedly” still in a boom.
Fanniumen Talking about when they were building this damn thing.. Obviously that is evident, but the recession isn’t natural.
The 1930s was the great depression and the 1940s was the second world war..
Not comparable to the situation in China at all
@Fanniumen naw, we are at the beginning of a depression bud.
The transformation of skyline images from 1987 to 2013 was quite remarkable!
@Hello SteveMarsh, How are you doing?
Agreed; astonishing.
Amazing what they can do with $1BILLION per DAY from the U.S. for the last DECADE via the trade deficit, along with lesser amounts for DECADES prior to that, along with a ready supply of virtual slave-labor.
@@lordofthewoods If that will be okay for them.
Yes but many Chinese citizens are still extremely poor. So hooray for the wealthy Chinese and communist government. But what a shame that the only Chinese people you meet outside of China are fairly wealthy or laborers.
I’ve been to Shanghai and this building was stunning from an aesthetic perspective. The fact that it disappears into the clouds on a hazy day also makes it quite beautiful.
I suppose the whole “build it and they will come” isn’t the case 😂
Nope, in China it's "build it and stay tf away."
it is the case in cities people actually want to live in like New York, Paris, and Rio.
The actual quote is in the singular so maybe OK.
"If you build it, he will come"
Not Sure I don’t think anybody wants to live in New York. It seems like more of a place you just end up.
Saddam Hussein No one should want to live in Paris either.
Unfortunately, it’s hard to avoid NYC as a multinational company. Even if you’re business isn’t in the US.
“Megatall” skyscrapers like the Burj Khalifa are not completely habitable. In fact, the top 37% of the Burj is uninhabitable for structural and design reasons. Of the 63% that is usable, 20% of the residential space is empty along with 50% of the office space. These towers are icons more than anything.
So just empty rooms?
Where u getting ur info from? 50 percent empty office space?🤔🤔🤔
Ok so get this take the word satan and Minus the T in the countdown they say T minus and counting right!!! Hmmm yes minus the T from Satan and you are left with NASA with a Red Snake Tongue as dipicted in nasa logo, people they are telling us but you dumb sheap cant see it, now is your chance to be the dumb sheap but maybe live slightly longer and try not to die with your tongue hanging out the truth in plain site but you cant see it!
Nasa is absolute fakery, bill nye from nasa said there is nowhere to go we live in an enclosed system, nowhere to go, obama said we cant get past low earth orbit??? WHY obama why cant we??? so that means we didnt go to the moon right! YES absolutely correct! he told us not me!. WHat did Hilary say she said we have not been able to break the glass dome above us but thanks to you it has 18 milion cracks in it???? WHAT hilary??? so there is a glass dome over our heads!!! ah ok that makes sense because it tells us that in the bible for once satan told us the truth and so did obama. Trump said one day you will wonder how we did it without space??? What so there is no space Mr Trump yip no SPACE im not say this people they are not my words see videos on youtube easy to find!!! Satan has to tell you there plan in PLAIN site then its up to you dumb sheap to figure it!!! and if you dont you end up a dead sheap with your tongue hanging out! as dipicted in St Peters cathederal hmmm they used your money to show you that you are all dumb dead sheap with your tongues hanging out! nice people right!! YIP but its actually true unless you WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!
@@WALKUREX Source: Trust me bro
Are you sure about that?
Compared to the Ryugyong Hotel in Pyongyang, this building is a huge success
Compared to the pizza place down the street this building is great succes
That's a low bar to hit
Anything compared to North Korea is a huge success. Seriously what's your point? 🤣🤣
@@josemerinohankammer7261 Cuba?
Relish the sarcasm
I lived in Shanghai until recently. The key fact not mentioned here is that there are great concerns about its structural integrity. The ground that it is built on is in fact very soft and therefore is prone to leaning. Several of the buildings nearby have been proven to have tilted and the local government refused to allow tests to be taken to see the latest angle of lean. That scared away many of the businesses.
@@45545videos because...money.
@@45545videos 靠海的土地都不稳定，稳定的在内陆，但那里的经济不一定发达
测试倾斜很容易 随便一些基本的测量方法即可 而且无需大动干戈 别人也不知道你在测试什么
LIE.
It’s probably the best designed building in the world hahahahaha this is absolute nonsense
The Chinese government would like to give B1M a very special behind the scenes look at Shanghai Tower and would like to offer complementary one-way air travel. Pack lightly.
@@LudicrousTorpedo I dont think you get the joke
😂😂😂
Ur Mom Well the Chinese government has built a reputation for trying to silence anyone who speaks poorly of them.
Bruh the joke isn’t that hard to get why half y’all so dense
@@UncleHaul I am wondering the same thing... Maybe they are playing dumb so they don't get the free one-way ticket hahaha
These supertall structures are not usually constructed for their economical sense. If people used economic logic to make decisions on buildings then the world would have very few skyscrapers. Most of these supertall towers are all about a sense of pride for the country and city.
Well I mean for every other country with skyscrapers they use them effectively and the tallest skyscraper in the world the one in Dubai is used very effectively, every single part of it is used. plus it is logical on an economic sense, people want more space and land is pretty expensive so one way to grow is to build up and ask any engineer or architect they will tell you the same thing that nothing is wrong with building skyscrapers once they are done right and have all the safety procedures, and yea they do also make the country look good.
The reason why I'm talking about this is because I'm studying to become an architect and I'm on my last year.
@@dominicpersaud1155 Well, and I am a Quantity Surveyor and on my last year of MSc in Civil Engineering. So yeah I also know what I am talking about. Read up on the history of all the tallest buildings in the world, particularly the government-sponsored projects and you would realize they struggle with occupancy during their early years. The payback period for such a building is so long, at least 12 years and rents have to be kept sky-high to return the investment. However, after some years the rent might go down or the rent of the rest of the buildings might catch up with it.
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B1M is untrustworthy.
Monuments to capitalism.
@@clemalford9768 If they are government sponsored, then they are monuments to socialism.
I went up to the observation deck and it was an awesome experience.
Yes I went up to the observation deck and into the counterbalance enclosure on a visit organised by its marketing and facility managers. Great building, fast lift ride to the top. TD
@@ComeraghMBA I hope you enjoyed it, I worked on the project for a small while.
@@ambitionsskyyyy Wow that is cool. Were you part of a foreign design or construction team they hired?
@@2011October14 dude he was probably the garbage collector
Yes, it allowed you to escape the smog
Architect: This is my design.
Engineer: but
Architect: No but. Just build this.
HYPED UP .... you realize the twisting design was done by the engineers to reduce the need for structural steel by 25%? Engineers are not good designers. They’re good calculators.
Architect: Structural and financial analyses? We don't need no stinkin' analyses.
Taylor Lee architects are the Walmart version of engineers sorry but a 6 year old can come up with a random design but can't realistically build it without engineers.
Actually part of it was because of America's 2008 financial crisis. China put in a massive stimulus to build, and is wildly successful now with 90% occupancy rate. America got the world in trouble, China always ends up saving the world.
@@metrolights891 ironical since Corona came out of China. under what stone did u live the past 6 months??
"50% of the floor area is unusable" ...They didn't see that coming?
Of course they see it comin. They even have city for ghost. What do you expect the 50% unused for?
Aesthetics
@@boohoo7386 Occupancy 90%. Wildly successful, and China is first to open for business
@@boohoo7386 maybe one day they will fill some w/ the homeless
@@SadalDay Ritz Carlton at top floors starting at $1000/night. You wish you could live there but can't.
I coincedentally explored Shanghai yesterday in Google Maps and was impressed by its insane scale
Rednalyx You should never explore Shanghai or any cities on Google Maps, they are outdated by 5-6 years. Use baidu maps or apple maps for China. You will notice how extensive it is now.
Rednalyx google maps is terrible in China.
Or just visit. I lived in Shanghai for 8 years. It’s my favourite City I lived in. Still miss it.
Google map doesnt work in China. Its not reliable.
Yup i got lost in shanghai because of the google map. All the hotel and tourist destination is not at the spot is supposed to be even the disneyland.
As a citizen who lives less than 3 miles away from the tower, I have been in the building several times. The building is one of the emptiest and loudest in the district. I've been in one of the small scaled cafes in the building. I can't remember clearly but the cafe was on around the 100th floor. Every 3-4 minutes, an elevator would pass by the cafe causing an extremely loud noise lasting around 2 seconds. The noise would shake the building intensely, causing a small earthquake in the building.
That sounds scary
Why don't you make a video and record this noise. I am very curious to see and hear this effect.
scaryyyyy
"Sustainable"
*50% of the floor area is unusable* (due to its dumb shape)
Yea I'm not convinced. 'Sustainability' is thrown around too much these days...
I agree but then again I don't buy the 'unusable' statement either. 3:28 - how is that yellow portion 'unusable'? So odd.
The thing is, the tower is double glazing system, the round core(colored in the video) is office area(commercial use), and space between curving elevation and core is hanging interior garden which shows in 3:54 - 4:04, for social activity and interior environment adjustment (also mention later in the video), which means "50% of the floor area is unusable" is just bullshit.
The problem of the tower is not the design, it's management issue , and it do happend in lots of Chinese city like Tianjin Binhai harbor district and Erdos. But this video is so misleading and I have to consider they are mean to do it.
@@philipcyx2690 Agreed, It seems like this guy is trying to say they gonna charge for that unusable space..And most importantly, you can not call an architecture "failed" until it's been shut down before its life runs out or actually fall like twin tower or etc.
I guess you can say that they are 50% sustainable...if you can only put people in 50% of the total apparent volume...
@@AnakinSkyobiliviator Oh come on, It's a LEED PLATINUM building, please check what's LEED first...
When you cry about having low occupancy but also demand top dollar for apartments built ONLY for the wealthiest of people.
The reason is always the money, right? Here, students can't find good apartments they can afford yet we build expensive houses when we finally build something...
In North America just few months ago, farmers poured milk down the drain because there is an oversupply due of closing of restaurants. Same reason, they need the price controlled instead of donating them or selling them any cheaper than the tolerance level. If they do donate the milk and the milk price fall, farmers will also eventually be the ones that need donations.
Sushi Jam I feel like you just had to mention America, why?
@@aeternavictrix7861 i said North America. I am living in Canada. Farmers poured 30million litres of milk down the drain to stabilize the price, was in the local news. Same thing in similar scale also happened in the US, I suspect.
@@fosphor8920 that's the worst. The university I went to they tore down the old buildings and built new luxury apartments on campus. Apartments that students can't afford.
It was built by a world for a world that doesn t really exist anymore.
Petar Mujovic They have a massive $12 T economy and still they a majority of ghost cities
DamnSamNoble I think it is huge cities China have built because of a huge population, but barely any people live in those cities.
Quote from Jeremy Clarkson lol
@@SamuelsBookReviews China has so far built 662 mega New York type cities, but 50 of those cities are still uninhabited
Marko Bravo ？？？？？WHAT? Have you ever been to Shanghai ...
Expensive Landmarks. The old Chinese saying goes with “when things reach the extreme they start to go the opposite direction.”
I sure hope that this saying holds true regarding the ridiculous state of politics in my country.
Everything excess is bad
Ok so get this take the word satan and Minus the T in the countdown they say T minus and counting right!!! Hmmm yes minus the T from Satan and you are left with NASA with a Red Snake Tongue as dipicted in nasa logo, people they are telling us but you dumb sheap cant see it, now is your chance to be the dumb sheap but maybe live slightly longer and try not to die with your tongue hanging out the truth in plain site but you cant see it!
Nasa is absolute fakery, bill nye from nasa said there is nowhere to go we live in an enclosed system, nowhere to go, obama said we cant get past low earth orbit??? WHY obama why cant we??? so that means we didnt go to the moon right! YES absolutely correct! he told us not me!. WHat did Hilary say she said we have not been able to break the glass dome above us but thanks to you it has 18 milion cracks in it???? WHAT hilary??? so there is a glass dome over our heads!!! ah ok that makes sense because it tells us that in the bible for once satan told us the truth and so did obama. Trump said one day you will wonder how we did it without space??? What so there is no space Mr Trump yip no SPACE im not say this people they are not my words see videos on youtube easy to find!!! Satan has to tell you there plan in PLAIN site then its up to you dumb sheap to figure it!!! and if you dont you end up a dead sheap with your tongue hanging out! as dipicted in St Peters cathederal hmmm they used your money to show you that you are all dumb dead sheap with your tongues hanging out! nice people right!! YIP but its actually true unless you WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!
Same thing in India. Philosophy of increased Adharma or imbalance. In fact, that's the very foundation of Dharmic civilization which is maintaining Dharm/Balance and its philosophies influenced the east. Obviously now it's very different and the western worldview has taken over. It's unsustainable in the long run and we will eventually see a paradigm shift.
"物极必反"
Tom Cruise sees tower : *Mission accepted*
😅
hhe already done it in his 3rd mission
janus lie lol
there is no toilet outside the building...
China always accomplishes what is impossible for America and rest of the world
I've actually visited the tower in late 2018 and i went on the observation deck. It is a magnificently beautiful building from up close and truly amazes me how it was built. Nice observation deck, 2 levels and 360 degrees of views. Shame about the low occupancy rate.
imzz doug
Thats normal for almost all massive/large towers in most parts of the world.
The worlds top 10 tallest towers all suffer from this.
Shame about the price more like lol fixing that will fix the occupancy
How long did it take for the Empire State Building to max out it's occupancy since opening for business?
@@ronmalvert2387 Empire State is another example of a, more or less, failed office tower. Empire State never became an important office building in the New York market in spite of its iconic status.
@@ronmalvert2387:
It tooked 15 years for the Empire State building became important and fully occupancy. Before that, it was just an empty building.
Looks like it has a great circular jogging path on every floor.
Lol imagine if all the floors connected like a giant slinky, it would be the greatest workout of a lifetime
That would be an ingenious idea!
Lol. Indeed.
@@tiffys Would also be amazing for accessibility! Give wheelchairs a way to avoid elevators when only going up a floor or two (or down any number of floors)
@@Xezlec lol, wheelchairs. I was thinking waterslide.
I've been to Shanghai several times, and could see those skyscrapers from my hotel.
Truly fascinating architecture to look at, though I didn't know about the problems when I was last in Shanghai.
I just admired the architecture.
Failure or not, I've been to the top and it's very impressive. The elevator goes 45 mph and you don't feel any sensation of movement, just a vague slight g-force. A few seconds later, you're on the 118th floor.
My car goes more than 40mph. Why would I go to Japan just to ride a slow elevator.
@@BarronVonSchnoot not a good comparison
@@Pheer777 not a good sense of humor
Always nice to get first hand infomation. Thanks for the in-put. It is a beautiful building. Las Vegas, NV June 29, 2021
@@BarronVonSchnoot Japan??? We are talking about Shanghai here, wake up!
i still find it more impressive to look at than Burj Khalifa. the curves & height all without a ridiculous spire
Justa Rando And the viewing gallery is higher.
AGREED!
Yes! I find it much more appealing to look at rather than the Burj Khalifa, I guess its cause the Burj Khalifa has a kinda strange look to it.
From a purely aesthetical standpoint, I love the look and petal-style shape of the burj, as well as its almost space-elevator sky-stabbing style, which makes it feel more futuristic. But from an engineering perspective Shanghai Tower wipes the floor with it, near uniform width all the way up, and a clever spiral form rather than the steps and thinness of the burj make it a testament to what is possible. It was clearly designed as a building, not as a monument.
Burj khalifa has a 244m spire. One of the largest of any building...
The darkess of the floors are directly proportional to their price.
vitobratta2 and usable floor space
Could you imagine carrying your weekly groceries up there everytime? Haha
@@Megadeth916 If you live up there you'll have servants to schlep the groceries.
And that not many people WORK AT NIGHT!
It’s because it’s always dark skies in Shanghai always polluted. I know because been living here for 16 yrs and counting
It seems like a common thread among mega projects, I hope the building is a success ultimately - the architectural concept is amazing. Did you know that this is the only skyscraper which is built inside another skyscraper? The inner skyscraper was built from the ground to the top, then the outer skyscraper was built from the top to the bottom and only has a floor about every ten floors. This gives the effect of the entire height of the building essentially having access to a street scape / park like outer space. At least that’s based on what I imagine having watched documentaries about the architectural philosophy and construction technique of this building. Regardless of it’s economic success, it is an amazing building that China should be proud of and I hope that ultimately it is an economically sustainable project as well.
That’s so fascinating wow I did not know that 😳😳
That's not going to happen. They want tenants to effectively pay double the rent. Rent 50,000sq ft but you can only use 25,000 of it. It just isn't a good business decision. Skyscrapers are built to efficiently use floor space and maximise its use. China wanted a monument more than they wanted a competitive skyscraper. You can a have an efficient skyscraper or a monument. This is one of the worlds best examples of what happens when you try and do both.
Its not even that amazing and all three of those buildings are surrounded by cut buildings, buildings with floors that almost have half the height of manhattan buildings, therefore making it seem like they are 60 stories tall and then these three massive spires jut out in the center. Thats what they want you to think, that there are three megatall towers in the center. The truth is neither three of them are as tall as they say, no one's ever questioned or been able to question them on width compared to other towers, height, and floor difference not to mention the front floor. Some buildings are more art in that they deceive, more than art in that they are spectacular. Take for example Dubai, notice the ridiculous glass tenants surrounding the insanely "tall" tower Burj Khalifa, and how they all look far shorter than Burj Khalifa. Now take Manhattan for example, notice how it has trouble showcasing its tallest towers. Probably because it isn't surrounded by towers with odd proportions like in dubai, and strange low condos across the water from it. The average height of most of Manhattans buildings is 35-40 stories, so expect that and taller to be surrounding The Empire State Building, vanderbilt, 432parkavenue, bank of america tower, hudson 50, and the super thin tall's on the 57th street billionaires row. There's competition everywhere around it...but in Dubai, I think there's desert-oasis condos-and vague glass floor towers that barely look 40-60 stories made to look incredibly tall when they are next to 1 story homes and those weird condos on the water fountain man made lake thing.
Selling feature for the top floors: clean air.
well said ha ha ha
Pat Vav Wasn’t wind pressure intense at high altitude?
@@phoenix5054 It's much more preferable compared to the absolute shit that is normal air quality at ground level.
Direct sunlight!
Direct Clean Rain
Seems like the tower was built for conspicuous vanity rather than economic sense. It's like how the Olympics often operates, or like the palaces of the past.
unifieddynasty that’s China in a nut shell
It's true for most skyscrapers in the world, not just in China.
@@alexmax8979 I lived in China, the dude's right. Guanxie, or "face", is everything there, even at the cost of efficiency and people's lives.
This is a superficial video - it will take years to fill the tower - hardly unusual
@@amblincork 50 Mao has been deposited into your wechat account
Even though it's a failure at least we still get to look at it. It's fantastically designed
But, is it fantastically *built* ...
Yeah
@@SilvanaDil is There à reason it could be badly constructed ?
@@vacciniumaugustifolium1420 - Ask your parents, your doctor, your personal trainer...
@@SilvanaDil let me rephrase it ; why are you thinking those building are badly constructed ?
I recall staying in the KPF tower while this thing was going up. It was the middle of the winter and crazy cold outside. I watched as welders spliced the steel sections for the composite columns at the building perimeter. Zero tempering of the steel while welding incredibly heavy sections under super cold conditions. Scary!
Chinas population is insane so there are many tall towers in China
This is what you get when the outside looks is more important than the usage efficiency of the area inside.
Outside looks is the number 1 priority when it comes to skyscrapers. Tall buildings have to consider the wind load and how it can be canceled upto an extent so that the building doesn't falls. Look at the construction of burj. Even the start of the foundation was designed to further tackle wind loads.
@@indieshitzzz outside looks has nothing to do with wind load.
@@High_Altitude_Observer Then what according to you was the reason behind its shape. Was it for the mere looks?
@@High_Altitude_Observer go through this you'll understand much better.
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Typical democrats... focusing on ideology instead of functionality.
This is one of the most aesthetically pleasing Mega-talls, next to the Kingdom tower.
Burj Khalifa looks much better
Better than China's weird trend of trouser shaped skyscrapers for sure.
@@diatomsaus lol
@@diatomsaus Better than America's weird block buildings
3:45 "half of the tower fails to light up"? Isn't the top half a hotel that is YET TO OPEN?
YES!
So It didn't fail then? They just wanted to make this video to claim it's failed, before the hotel opens up.?
@@value8035 yes, basically
i think the hotels are late? idk im confused too, but i think the bottom area of the tower was sorta dark
I red that the hotel (J Hotel) is finished and they’re opening soon. But they really should have mentioned it in the video.
I worked in Shanghai from 2014 - 2015 and took many photos of this building, especially at night. I left Shanghai before it was completed, and never actually got across the river to have a close look at it. Kinda common to be worked into the ground over there... 😕
just imaging working on a building that high or just casually being on the top makes my heart race unreasonably.
I could never go to the top. Sadly, it must be spectacular, but I'm afraid 😬
Well think about this. If you fall and hit the ground, ur heart will no longer be racing. :] win-win
Edit: you'll be on the ground and wont have a racing heartbeat. What's not to like about winning?
I’ve been to the top and I spent the entire time at the overpriced cafe because I was too scared to look out the windows
Yup! I’m afraid of heights,so just looking at it,makes my knees weak. I’d NEVER go to the top!!!
UA-cam 'climbing Shanghai tower' two guys climbed a crane at the top 6 years ago! It'll have you sweating 😅
Finally, a non--April Fools video! Keep the good content up.
You're welcome - thanks for watching!
@@TheB1M shush you waffler
Ali g no u
I was wondering if this was a Fools video but I guess it wasn't.
The corona tower of Shanghai
The top structure looks like a roller coaster.. That would be a wild ride..
The top floor on this building is called Covid-19. Quite a wild ride indeed
That s the crane!
@Cristopher Reeves educate yourself Kevin
I was thinking that!
There is really a roller coaster inside of the TV Tower a couple hundred meters away😁
The dome in London next to the Thames was a failure after it was first built, now 20+ years later it is a great success. Having visited Shanghai once (World Expo 2010) and seeing the way the city was being developed I am sure there will come a time when this tower will reach its' potential.
I agree. Just give it time
The millennium dome was a vanity project, only when it was sold did it have to earn its keep.... China has built a few projects to impress the world, most are now costing the country dear,
@@alvexok5523 assuming it stays up that long, China has a pretty crappy reputation when it comes to things like buildings and bridges.
As a Shanghainese, I actually like this video a lot. The tower is a beautiful structure that succeeds to be an icon for the city but fails economically. I believe it would be a painful lesson for the city and we need to face it and learn from it.
The same can be said about my private parts. ;)
@@th4fl4sh4 ok simp, go back to twitch to attract females
@Ashish yadav eating bats is not a widespread practice in China. The population of China is larger than north America and south America combined but you aren't generalizing us even though there are groups in people that also eat bats on these continents.
Ashish yadav Yeah switch to chicken feet.
@Ashish yadav please stop defecating on the road
Now that working remotely from home has become accepted, cost-saving, and efficient there's no incentive for companies to pay huge leases for office space. Buildings like this will never be profitable in a post COVID-19 world.
Facts
It can be transformed to residential condos. The hotel for the upper floors easily can be condos or time shares.
@Straw office work is tho, and building like this are made for office purpose among othets of course
@@divo7778 Yeah go back to sleep serf
@@christinarichie6171 yep go back to sleep like all the people supposed to be "working" from home😅
I lived in China for three years. One thing I noticed right away was how they would always build these elaborate designs to their tall buildings. Especially near the top. You would see these wild designs. I was told it was because they wanted to outdo the next buildings design. It was like who could outdo the other guy. I have to admit some of the designs were really cool looking. Even though they might become impractical. Like this tall one in this video.
This competition thing has been happening as long as there have been skyscrapers built. NYC was probably where it started in the 1920s, each new building trying to be taller than the previous one. I hate China but don't ding them on this one. They're playing the same game that everyone else does.
@@demef758 yes but a game that stopped being practical decades ago. It’s one thing in the past to race to be the tallest, or most opulent, but as this video pointed out, compromises in design were made to create this shape, leaving huge areas of useless floor plan.
@@affenket Liberals want more housing in large cities but also oppose construction of tall buildings. It's a no-win with these people.
@@SpywareEverywhere Go underground.
He's already living in his parent's basement.
Locals nicknamed these three buildings, pagoda, bottle opener, and elephant trunk.
Ming Choy that's 100% true
Actually, it's called Injection Needle, Can Opener, and Egg beater. This came from a local tour guide.
@@snowman5202 you are right. am Shanghainese.
lmao
@Varoon ouch...
I see what you did there.
I live in Shanghai for more than 5 years and I am amazed by the way this city works. Yes, maybe the Tower has failed economically but the city is safe, clean, rich, and vibrant. You can feel it in the air. And the fact that it has become like this in less than 30 years amazes me even more.
Yeah, sure it has its flaws, for instance, the real estate prices are through the roof and I can't imagine how people here can afford the mortgage. But same happens in LA, London, Toronto, and other metropolitan areas around the world.
This city is a great combination of old China and the modern 21st-century city. Can't recommend more to visit it when the borders are opened for tourists.
“You can feel it in the air”….sure you can (cough cough)🤦♂️
It’s crime-safe that I completely agree.
@@ThomasRosehands
It free of white collar crime, that's for damn sure.
An Asian city is free of crime like a laboratory table is free of microbes...
The last shot really shows the scale of the buildings in Shanghai. Awesome shot.
Another problem is China's financial center shifting more and more to the Pearl River delta making the area in and around Shanghai less attractive for new businesses.
I don't understand the government's obsession with Shanghai and Beijing. Or anybody else's. PRDelta is clearly the place be in and around.
Katjerouac Music what obsession? They’re all important.
@@katjerouac "PRDelta is clearly the place be in and around." How come?
@@elise3455 close to Hong Kong and Macao, many international companies base there manufacturering in the region example: Apple
@@curtiswoodley1658 You have cities like Guangzhou and Shenzhen where you have most of China's new tech startups and you can get to Hong Kong on train in 15 minutes.
Just look at this link.
www.visualcapitalist.com/pearl-river-delta-megacity-2020/
Designed by an American architectural firm. The elevator system, consisting of 97 elevators, was also designed by an American firm.
The elevators were manufactured by a Japanese firm.
@@josephstalion7728 The system was designed by the American company Edgett Williams Consulting Group and Mitsubishi won the construction contract.
@@cgirl111 why didn't they hire a chinese architect? I thought china has many brilliant architects.
@@MrBug-cb9ut American or European skycrapers use chinese while chinese use Americans or Europeans. What is happening??
@@space0015 ha ha I think they dont have enought trust in their architects.
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I've been inside the building it's quite beautiful.
It's a marvel of engineering
If it is a monument, it is surely an amazing icon. But practicality is the key for commercial use, not how beautiful it is.
@@hairyputter5363 Dig the handle
I was by it's side - it is amazing, same as the rest of the neighborhood.
I went up there in 2017 and although the views were quite impressive, I thought that the Shanghai World Financial Centre had much more character and was ac much more enjoyable experience ( partly due to being able to walk on the 100th floor and to also be able to eat at the 94th floor ).
Some ideas are meant to STAY on a drawing-doodle pad.
Fuck you, it looks beautiful
Tower office spaces are usually expensive, even here in Lagos, Nigeria. Only big companies or those with deep pockets can afford it.
The building itself is very impressive, just economically difficult to manage. But that seems to be the case for any mega tall skyscraper around the world.
Chinas population is insane so there are many tall towers in China
Yeah, it seems they are more of a result of d1ck-measuring contest.
Me: has anyone got a bottle opener?
I look up.
Me: ...oh
Well this developer of the building must be a very heavy drinker.
do not steal your humor, be original
Yes
grats on stealing top comment :)
Now build a bottle that big next to it!
I went to the observation desk yesterday , incredible view
0:39 that scooter doesn't care at all , he's just gonna go straight through the middle of traffic hahaha
welcome to asia
@@daviderossini2585 100% this.
That's pretty normal in Asia, there's really nothing wrong with it
Traffic signals are optional also
@@Arbyfig Like NYC except newer and better
It is still one of the most beautiful and elegant skyscrapers in the world.
I think it would look amazing in New York.
Stephan put it somewhere in Chicago instead of that hideous aqua tower
Agreed!
i gotta disagree man, since every building mostly looks like a rectangle, there wouldnt be a shining spot for the tower, night would be worse as since, in the skyline thatll most likely be the most seeable thing, but it would be empty
It looks like a fat worm. Or an elephant trunk.
Hudson Yard, looks like Shanghai now, little Shanghai. NY is working hard to catch up!
Stantec Tower in my city, Edmonton, has the same issue. It’s the tallest in western Canada and is about half used.
Michael Meloche And older buildings are being left vacant as people move to the best and the newest.
@@Kiwibirdman1701 Not in Edmonton. Even the Stantech tower is suffering with high vacancy rates. That building has one of the highest vacancy rates in the city in a city with bleeding office buildings losing tenants by the day. The whole city is going through severe withdrawal symptoms from the oil crashing in price for such a long time. Oil is the social economic hard drug.
Hudson Yards in NYC has a similar problem. Office Space is doing ok Mall and the apartments not so much.
Phillip Mulligan damn that sucks.
Its because Alberta is bleeding jobs due to the move away from oil. Yes we still need it, but technology is trying to use less. This means efforts are focused on extracting from easier locations, as there will be no shortages anytime soon. I really hope Albertans can focus on finding new ways to create jobs and funds, their future depends on it!
Remake it into a apartment building! How many Smal scale apartments would fit in that enormous building?
Why would you want to live up there?
@@joelennon432 it’s cool and could be made pretty cheap
The J hotel has finally opened, they have around 20 floors, that has already improved the occupancy rate to around 70%
@@joelennon432 I have long thought it would be an amazing concept to build super tall skyscrapers made for ordinary people! I would love to live up there at a reasonable price💚
I still love to see the tower every day from my office... the exact same office that designed the tower.
Yeah,but you're unable to see it's darkside
China builds for prestige it doesn’t have. The Philippines will soon overtake China in terms economic progress and tourism.
@@@leapdrive isn't possible without conspiracies and foul plays as they did.our nation's are straight forward thinkers,they think about each and everyone.
@@leapdrive The Philippines? Philippines' gdp per capita is only 1/3 of China's. Also relying on tourism for gdp growth is very unsustainable, I mean look at Greece, they were so promising back then, now they are stuck in terms of growth.
Ritesh Pawar, straight forward thinking as of me first, screw others?
The tower's curving and twisting pattern looks like an "organism". I somehow imagine it will "move" and fight with a Godzilla.
Yip Tommy u misspelled “orgasm”
you mean orgasm?
I read that as orgasm 😂
@@Star-Man haaa haaa haaa !! i think i'm going to put Shanghai on my list of places to travel when we can do so again. the place looks amazing !!
Why did I see this.... This is now in my life....
Used to live in Shanghai, went to the observation deck grand opening it was a true masterpiece, sad to see it couldn’t be filled
I've been there and never would have known it "failed".. thanks for shining light on such under-reported topics!!
in my opinion the Jin Mao Tower is still the most beautiful out the three, i really like the use of traditional chinese architecture, it gives it like more personality
It looks like a more refined version of Taipei 101, although I like Taipei 101 better..
অର୍ଘ୍ୟਦੀప पाல i like the Taipei 101 better too
I was about to Say its just à continental copy of Taipei 101 but its been already Said ...
@@vacciniumaugustifolium1420 Jin Mao was completed in 1999 before Taipei 101 start construction...
exactly.... the ugly one is that giant bottle opener.
Solution : The entire Shanghai People's Government moving in
Shanghai isnt the capital so there probably isnt much government there enough to occupy half the building
@@peterxdr Don't care, just needed someone fill the empty space and pay the rent
Wow, you do know China :D
90% occupancy rate
and weeks later the goven go broke
I couldn’t imagine working on a top floor of that tower.. my hands and feet are so sweaty from just watching this video
for a 5 mins video, the only fail you try to tell us is the tower charge too much on rent. I don't see that's a fail
Only if it comes with a fully controllable parachute with lessons included and an exterior escape slide.
no way in hell I'm taking that slide
and if you land in the middle of the road, you'll get run over
@@pierrecurie no one will be driving next to a building that people are jumping from. Remember 911
@@energyflowswhereattentiongoes oh I’ll take it. I prefer to make it all transparent, but with cover. Like maybe a transparent tube all the way swirling down. Exciting yet relatively safe
@@romanlightman4937 The 911 comparison is a little odd.
I’m your biggest fan I love your channel keep being very informative
I hate to break it to you but you weren't the first comment, somebody commented one minute before you I think 😂
The usable space issue is a major design flaw that cannot be physically altered, the only practical option is to charge lower rents.
Ahhh, the famous “bottle opener + beer can” tower duo of Shanghai
I live near it. I would see it everyday and it's actually quite beautiful to see.
You live next to it and have access to UA-cam?
Алекси Волков not all Chinese have zero access to UA-cam.
@@nova2372 My work place is nearby. I can see it through the window in my office. And I have access to UA-cam as well.
@@nova2372 you use a vpn to get around the firewall
I live in Flint Michigan but that looks totally awesome
5:39 This Drone footage is literally straight from the 23rd century, just, wow!
Rishit Shetty amazing ahh it looks like a future city
You need Buck Rogers flying around it.
Megacity one
Indeed epic view
the effect is coming from the haze of industrial pollution
I've been watching since July 2017 on my old account. just wanted to say thank you for inspiring my love for architecture and urban design
Well as a local Shanghainese I actually worked in this building for a while as an intern…I didn’t expect much from the building except for an office place, an observatory platform and a big statue…
Who came here after watching CGTN's video :)
Me..... I believe the B1M
@@CaptainJeau both sources may not be contradicting each other. Take the timeliness of the information into account
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@@timshao13 is this youtuber have any architect degree?
Me 🙋🏾♂️
man, the top 5% of humanity really lives in a different world
Give it a little more time.
sarcasmo57 I agree. It’s just that they got into debt for it, and debtors want their money and they are the ones that don’t want ti wait. Lol.
@@franwex who are those people who lend money to build an office tower in Shanghai?
@AGZ maybe we'll see
Ireneusz Pyc asset managers who then package the debt as bonds who then sell it to investors. So I guess ultimately it’s mom or dad that buying an income fund. Heh.
AGZ well, China collapse theory
Apparently no one involved in the development of this project thought about the prospect of abject failure once the tower was completed. Again the scale of the completed tower is magnificent but truly frightening at the same time.......
Stunning tower in person, had no idea it failed
I teach class at a gym on the 22nd floor. The interiors and the view are stunning.
Cool , you're nice looking .
How's the rent?
Is just like my mansion on Minecraft, beautiful from outside but only 10% of the house is used 💀
😭😭😭
In Denmark we had a Cph. hospital which had an empty 10 floors for many years. But today it is used in full.
For any architects/architecture student watching this video ; that picture of a plan with a small occupied square in the middle looks so dumb. It's crazy that the architects thought it was okay to leave that much empty space on every floor.
Thomas Martin The space in the middle is all the lifts and toilets etc I thought. The “empty” space is the actual office space and the odd shape that this left was what the narrator was highlighting as poor design as it didn’t enable efficient fit out.
@@jasond3918 You're right, that's all the services and lifts. I still don't understand why they wouldn't have extended the floor area all the way to the window walls though
Thomas Martin it was done that way so they didn't have to cast 128 unique floor plates. The organic form meant that every floor has a slightly different curvature than the previous. The tower is actually a cylinder. The glass facade is an external skin held by space frames, so as to achieve the beautiful twist. The drawback is that you have terrible efficiency.
On top of that, a circular floor plan is very difficult to efficiently space out as most of our furnitures are rectangular and spaces are generally better utilised in rectangles.
A "sustainable" tower that penetrates right through all the shanghai pollution.
Aoi Kemono
Shanghai’s pollution situation has gotten so much better over the years. I remember back in 2014 it’s almost >150 everyday, now it’s usually between 30-80
Flashstar 123 / Idk what those numbers mean but it sounds great that Shanghai is solving its pollution problem.
@Xeder He's probably referring to the pm2.5 micro-particles index, which has gone much better for real since the government has been trying to move coal power plants away from cities
@@flashstar1234 You can't expect those who hate china for no reason to show a bit wisdom😂
@@jx8829 "for no reason" besides lack of basic human rights, running its citizens over with tanks, no freedom of speech, information, religion. We don't hate China. China is awesome. We hate their government.
The three tallest building in Shanghai has a nickname called “the grand triplet”
中文是什么？
@@slomo4672 三件套
"No company should ever construct such a worldly expensive building."
Hey how are you doing?
The building is much amazing ❣️
The photograph at 5:30 makes the tower appear like a derelict smoke stack about to topple.
I thought exactly the same thing!
Yes it's hideous
I was expecting failure due to engineering issues. But not the case it seems to me.
@Jason Cyr Not landmarks like this
@Chen Uy Trains don't make sense across Canada the U.S and Australia other then existing cargo trains. You have to go through native lands which cause issues and in areas of Canada the temperature ranges from -40C to +40C which causes maintenance issues on tracks especially high speed trail tracks.
Two airports with aircraft can do the same thing without fucking up hundreds of miles of land.
That building reminds me of the Tower of Babel.
@T M how do you know.
Considering how many chinese structures end up shortly after construction (looking at the chinese dams and ghost cities), it'll likely mirror that story shortly.
@@ihadforeskinwithporkbellyf9306 well considering that it's a tower featured in the Bible that was supposedly struck en down with the wrath of God, I'd assumr most haven't been. Especially since it likely didn't exist/was metaphorical.
@Carla Kolchak true that
I'm getting so fed up and tired of "sustainable", "green" bs. Especially by people living in cities, the most polluted and destroyed places on earth without wildlife or real nature.
Brings back flashbacks of the Empire State Building, World Trade Center, Sears Tower, and Burj Khalifa...
What, because its tall?
@@DevinSloan they were largely empty for a long time.
@@DevinSloan They all had their rough patches
Thank you for not calling it Willis Tower. That new name gives me a mini-aneurysm everytime I see it
Okay boomer