The cad files maybe. But the scientific reasearch is intrestingly inconsistent or controversial. You can build a unicorn catcher, it doesn't mean uncorns exist.
Wow Fred. The honour in being able to go to ITER is immense. That truly shows the reach that this channel has. I can't imagine what kinds of security clearances you had to go through to get in there and film that. Truly dedicated to the cause of advancing/showcasing human engineering and construction. Bravo.
Doesn’t matter how much you want to “stick around forever”. We’ve all got our clocks ticking, and will all die eventually, no matter how bad we want otherwise
Absolutely fascinating! As a blind person I thank you for the verbal content. So much text is used today so this is a breath of fresh air and I love it!
What always frustrates me about the topic of ITER are the people who complain about the costs. Current estimates are around 22 billion euros over the entire construction period. Even if it ends up being 30 or 40 billion, that’s a joke compared to what, for example, the USA spends on military expenses-over 900 billion per year! Even a smaller country like Germany spends 60 billion per year. The ITER project is so important for all of humanity. It could solve many problems and even conflicts. I wish it would receive more attention and less criticism.
Exactly, the ISS cost around $150 billion but it taught us so much about how the body reacts to extended periods of time in space, and so much form the many other experiments. Not to mention the knowledge gained from building it, like water purification.
Just because others waste more doesn't make this less a waste, now that's assuming the completed construction is a failure. Which I doubt, even though I am not sure this will be that defining moment in Fusion, I don't know what else would so this build is as good a guess as any I suppose.
If only those people knew how much it costs to build a single modern nuclear power plant. It's in the same ballpark as ITER so far. Adjusted for inflation, the Manhattan project cost 30 billion.
If it works out it will be money well spend for sure, the 'irritating' thing is that it's a 28 year long construction project in the base case scenario. More realistically it will take longer. And even if it succeeds, it will take decades more before they figure out how to commercialize it, as every step along the 28 year way probably is crazy custom. That's not to say it's a mistake to spend the money, but it's one of the biggest gambles I think ever where the result was very much unknown (like sure, something like the space race was incredibly expensive, but every step along the way wasn't that big of a gamble based on the previous step... but maybe I am overestimating the risk of ITER being a 'failure')
@@swampy1234 Its one hell of a culmination of human advancement concentrated in a single project being contributed to globally, and if its successful it will be one of the most important experiments in human history. Also, its cool.
While it seems 90% of humans are hell bent on destroying each other, it’s refreshing to be reminded there are still a group of us who are working hard to build a better future.
@@Alvias See, I don't understand that. Why, with all the German know-how and industrial expertise, they haven't managed a better system. It has to be politics, I refuse to believe Germany isn't capable of doing it.
In a new Killzone game or something, like the Stahl Arms map featured in Killzone 3. Make it a wintermap aswell and it might look super impressive with all frozen and burning parts.
The B1M team is the hardest working UA-camr.. They have been travelling around the globe to deliver the best construction contents. Appreciate the hard work!
@@voidocvalidid we solve the problem of water crystallization making it possible to freeze human body without destroying our cells? Because the one thing is cooling, but the other thing is cooling that won't destroy our cells
Imagine this reactor sustaining fusion for 5 minutes in one day. I don't think it's likely, but imagine it anyway. After running such an experiment, researchers would examine reactor components for wear and damage. They would assess that examination to see what kind on repairs and changes would be needed prior to the next experiment. They would also decide how long the next experiment could be run without the risk of a dangerous failure. They might be ready for the next run in about 6 months. After a period of years, researchers might be able to sustain fusion continuously for 1 hour. At that point, the facility will not be able to economically and safely continue. But, we will know many things that we don't anticipate today. This will enable the design of the next generation of research fusion reactor. With the lessons learned in the construction of ITER, the next device might only require 20 years to build. That next device would still not produce commercial electricity, but it could employ actual experimental electrical generation facilities to uncover the challenges that facet of full-scale design would encounter. 60 years ago, I studied the development of "pinch" fusion reactors when I was doing my undergraduate studies. Pinch has made way for more promising approaches such as tokamak used at ITER. I will not live to see what progress we will make in the next 60 years. I hope we keep getting closer.
I hope I'll get to see this technology succeed one day! In 60 years, I will be 79 years old, if I am lucky. Even thinking that far into the future is scary, however.
@@abcdefg4570 in 60 years you could see us using this technology as a space propulsion :) reaching far planets of our solar system :) and one day even alpha centauri
@@pendrodor That would be amazing!! I wonder what the world will look like when I am an old man! I want to stay young forever, but aging is inevitable, and I will appreciate every single day I have left! Even 2050 seems like science fiction, but soon, 2050 will be closer than 2000.. It's crazy.
@@abcdefg4570 not necessarily. plenty of research groups looking for a way to reverse aging. producing new results every day. one day it'll happen. sooner than later, too.
@@abcdefg4570 we might be able to reverse,slow down aging or increase the lifespan or even freeze bodies without damage soon you might live up to that day I am rooting for you :) I am fairly young(26) so I hope one day I will get to see fusion propulsion unlocking our whole solar system for us and colonies on mars,venus,moons of asteroid belts,moons of jupiter and saturn :)
I work on power stations, and we have massive setbacks on systems we sell as "Products" as in we have built similar ones beforehand, even then we hit major hickups often during construction and commissioning. I can't imagine how complex the design and commissioning is for something has never been built before. It is basically product prototyping at the edge of physics.
I agree in this case.... but we have a terrible track record... sometimes I think we need a reset.. and go back to live with nature in forest... she has all the complete systems ..all in a beautiful symphony.. Man is no where close to that..
You do realize these experiments are funded by the world governments so they can build fusion weapons. Governments only fund research for weapons, then after a couple decades they might let the tech role down hill for consumer use.
I'm so glad there are projects like this still happening around the world. There is nothing more inspiring than when humanity comes together, across language barriers and national borders, to push the limits of what is possible and change the future forever. Absolutely incredible video B1M team, top notch professionalism and reverence for such a topic, thanks for making this!
I remember how I took a train ride from Prague towards my birthtown some 8 or 10 years ago. Don't really know when. There was a guy working on a computer next to me, he had some schemes of coils and wiring in front of him and it looked... you just knew it was something special. Then the announcement of low battery popped up, he looked into his NTB pouch...and cursed. He left his charger in the office. I happened to have my laptop of the same brand with me, so I gladly offered it for the progress of humankind. He plugged hic computer and continued working. I couldn't help myself from asking what it was. He carefully looked around and asked: "Do you know what a tokamak is?" I gasped. "I'm from Academy of science and I'm part of the team to design and construct the prototype of the nuclear fusion reactor." I hope this is where the work of him and my other countrymen comes to fruition. This is so damn exciting. Thank you for this video
@@ASDasdSDsadASD-nc7lf tf you mean not that important? ts could literally allow us to do anything. energy is the great limit of the universe. we ca genuinely think about colonizing other planets if we can build fusion plants there. it takes 250kg of DT to fuel the Tokamak for a whole year. that's NOTHING. the issue today is obtaining the tritium
@@ASDasdSDsadASD-nc7lfone that mimics the sun at scale? Yes it is, and you’re absolutely delusional if you think otherwise, even the fact that fusion has happened THREE TIMES WITH A NET GAIN IN ENERGY WAS A HUGE DEAL TO THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY and that was small scale
false. completely false. completely completely false. the fusion reactor will never work. Every dollar they spend on this project today is another bad dollar after worse.
A lot of people think this will be a power plant, but it's not really, it's primarily a research center. We've already proven fusion works. Now we need to prove it works at scale.
It's to harvest unlimited taxpayer funds. Hope it leads to something but net energy output is not even close to economically viable, likely never will be for Earth.
@@Mrbfgray i mean, we need to try... Maybe we never achieve it, nobody trully knows... But. It's so good potential source of energy that it would be so wrong to not try at all
@@lazymass Depends on the opportunity cost and likelihood of success. Will it ever exceed the economic potential of indirect fusion when solar panels continue to dramatically decrease in cost and increase in efficiency and are already on par with the cheapest electric gen? I doubt it. Government initiatives like this are defined by inefficiencies and waste and take on a life of their own without regard to economics, often well past obsolescence. Hydrogen fuel is a classic example, gov funds STILL flowing into that when it's been obvious for decades it's never going be remotely cost effective. Vastly leaner, cheaper private fusion projects are in the works.
An unbelievable huge Megaproject. But it makes me happy that so much country's are working TOGETHER. Because, that's SO hugely important. If we want to make a better world, than working together is the KEY to everything!! And this is a formidable example!!
@@procatprocat9647I’m American, from the US, of the rare well-educated worldly variety having spent time in Europe, and I wholeheartedly endorse your remark: Proper English.
You having a role in this, no matter how small, must be the most fullfiling thing a human can do... you are literally changing the course of human history.
Hey B1M, I'm building a tool shed in the backyard, if you guys wanna come cover the sheer size and scale of it just let me know. It might even have a light in there, I haven't decided yet.
Sometimes b1m videos stop showing up in my feed as much, I end up not seeing a single video for weeks, then this pops up and reminds me that this is probably one of the best channels on the whole of UA-cam, this is what UA-cam was made for 🔥
The issue is Tritium. It is extremely rare. Current estimates put the total world wide stockpile at 25kgs and ITER will consume, by some estimates, over half of that amount. Additionally it has a half life of a little over 12 years so here is the catch: In order to breed tritium you need a working fusion reactor, and there may not be enough tritium to jump-start the first generation of power plants after ITERs experimental life (scheduled to run into the 2050's). The world’s only commercial sources are the 19 Canada Deuterium Uranium (CANDU) nuclear reactors, which each produce about 0.5 kilograms a year as a waste product, and half are due to retire this decade. The available tritium stockpile will peak before the end of the decade and begin a steady decline as it is sold off or decays, this according to projections in ITER’s own 2018 research plan.
An amazing idea that somehow got missed in the video… Wonder if that’s the limiting factor or other sources of clean energy being a little less complex and potentially more affordable… or just the whole chain reaction thing that could turn the planet earth into another sun?
Then there is how you are going to extrac the heat to boil the water. Helion plans to skip that step. General Fusion will use molten lead for heat extraction.
@@IAmMaarten It is a "future hope" as stated in ITERS's 2018 research plan. The process is theoretical at this time and highly speculative as to the effectiveness long term since the viability of an extraction process from a "running" fusion reactor at 90 million degrees F is a huge unknown since the longest confirmed sustained fusion reaction to date is 6 minutes (the Chinese claim 17 minutes but it is unconfirmed).
I've worked on some small international projects/teams. Every time I was part of such an initiative I always learned new things about other cultures and working methods. if you're ever able to work on international project or in an international team, DO IT! You won't regret it.
In a time when the world is swinging toward polarity, division and war, we need international projects like this, showing how we can overcome language and cultural divisions in common pursuits. We need the ISS of our generation and we need it to succeed.
There West is being ruled by the liberal governments and globalist elitists , how is it working out? It does not look good in my view., looks like a planned demolition.
I love projects like this, it's not about politics or weapons. It's just an experiment for the betterment of humankind. I love learning about CERN, when that was being created and the mysteries of the universe can be discovered by us.
A friend of mine was used to be a theoretical physicist working on this project. Its nice to see it come along so far. im loving the resurgence of nuclear tech. I want the pledge of the 1960s of "electricity too cheap to meter" to become reality in my lifetime.
No but plenty of lying scientists will do very well out of it. Make a small fortune while claiming they need more money to make a new one as the last few dozen didn't work.
I have read (or watched, can't remember) a statement from one of the senior researchers/engineers working on the project that it is highly unlikely we are going to see fusion power in our lifetime with the current progress, unless some major breakthrough happens.
I assure you it has already been achieved but at a much smaller scale, infact, he even states this in the video. Otherwise, there is no way this much would be invested in this large of a scale by so many countries. The real question to ask is when will it benefit society at large? Will Europeans actually benefit from affordable and sustainable energy sources? I say Europeans, specifically, because ITER is in France so they should and would be the first to benefit.
@@ndean7229 Yeah, fusion has been achieved and sustained for a 100s even, but we still can't get more power out of it than we have put in. And then there's scaling from experimental to production (once we figure out the first thing), and that part we likely won't live to see sadly.
I can't believe the B1M did a video without explaining what a Tunnel Boring Machine, TBM does, and how its a massive machine that goes underground to dig tunnels
National ignition centre didn't include the power needed to generate the Lazer ( converting electric energy to light energy) which was much higher than the Lazer output. The experiment made a net power lose
That's not really important because LLNL's NIF intentionally uses older, cheaper to maintain and calibrate laser infrastructure because they are a research facility and not a power generation facility. Its an intentional choice to use less efficient hardware because it makes their research easier without any negative impacts on said research.
@@OneDeuxTriSeiGo what if it doesn't work? If it does who will pay for the billions of £ of free energy? Will we all stay at home making free toast watching free television
@@sirdamianmental Do you mean NIF or ITER? NIF works just fine and this fusion research is honestly more of a side project for them. Their main job is running nuclear physics experiments with the purpose of improving the US's ability to effectively simulate nuclear weapons and predict the efficacy of the warheads in their stockpile without having to actually blow them up to verify they work. With ITER originally it was a question whether it would work or not. That's why the ramp up was so slow (10 years of testing from 2025-2035). Advances in materials and fusion research mean that ITER is actually significantly more powerful than it was originally intended to be. That's a large reason for the delays. As a result, we know the exact conditions ITER needs to succeed and it is comfortably capable of achieving them. So now the plan is to simply finish it and bring it up to full power as fast as possible because it should be guaranteed to work as long as the final few parts get built correctly and the assembly is done correctly.
It was worded something like ' the amount of energy put in to the capsule was exceeded by the amount that was released' which is true, but you are more correct when saying that total amount of energy used in the process was more than what got returned. It's a little similar to people thinking their EV is all 'zero emissions'.. true when being driven, but ignores the amount from the mining of what goes into batteries, how they're made, etc.
26 billion isn't even enough to build a single aircraft carrier. This costs roughly the same as 7 Arleigh Burke class destroyers, for the same cost as a fraction of the USN we are developing world changing technology.
The problem is that you need to produce hundreds or thousands of these reactors, if they all take 30 billion and 30 years to build, no one will build them.
@@hedgehog3180Not true, you can build 2 Ford class carriers for that price, and that includes 2 nuclear reactors each. You could also produce 90 Príncipe de Asturias class carriers.
Every tradesman would be top tier level. From the scaffold builders, concrete, plumbing, and I can’t even begin to imagine the electrician’s work. Not for the project itself but for the infrastructure for it.
The Pareto Principle explains the world (a.k.a the "80-20 rule"). 80% of the world is full of petty people, 20% push the envelope. 80% are idiots, 20% are geniuses. 80% of relationships are toxic, 20% are gold. 80% of humans are evil - demons hiding behind smiling masks - 20% are angels. The 80-20 rule explains the world and why it looks like a sewer factory. Let the 20% win against all odds.
Great work on this video, but I really wish the volume levels in this video were normalized instead of jumping up and down all over the place between the segments.
I never thought radioactive wastage was the reason why the current nuclear fission reactor not being used so widely. Cost and complications were the real reason. It doesnot seem these reactors would do any good in terms of cost or engineering complications. this is not to take away from the fact that what we have achieved is huge... this is freaking brilliant. But it is only successful if it is affordable by the society in a large scale.... right now it does not seem so.
This. People keep missing that fuel is not the main cost in fission reactors either and yet they don't produce that cheap. A fusion reactor seems ungodly expensive, the fuel could be free and still it would cost a lot to produce electricity. Still, mastering fusion is something I think humanity should work towards; just not using utopian promises.
It's one of the components. Sure, Fission reactors are expensive, especially if you compare it with plummeting renewable costs like Solar and so when they do eventually run into overspend territory during construction the negative frenzy that spurs up isn't merely about the billions of USD that it costs but concerns about meltdown safety and waste management are also lumped together. If you ignore those two aspects, the cost in itself, while obviously more expensive than Solar, is still justifiable for our Energy Mix, especially if you're looking to expand the Base Load power. It why China is building so many of them, and India (where I am from) is in process constructing more NPPs to increase our Nuclear Power Generation by 4 times; as the latter two aspects, anecdotally speaking, don't play a major role in this part of the world. Back in 2015 I was fortunate enough to visit Narora Atomic Power Station and we got to talk the local residents of Narora village (an isolated village which is why this location was picked for the station) and none of them shared any concern about potential meltdown or radioactive waste. Its one thing to just be over budget but completely different for the governments to not only answer to the project spending but also assure the public that the very same public spending won't poison their water and air.
Cost can be reduced through economies of scale, however nuclear fission never really got to scale because of the political issues, especially around the waste. So far Finland is the only country in the world that has managed to build a long term deposition facility, and they're not willing to import waste. The fact that Fusion simply doesn't have this major hurdle makes it way easier to deploy at scale since there are literally no downsides. Like even renewable sources like wind has met opposition simply due to aesthetic preferences. Fusion doesn't even have this relatively minor problem since it's just a building so politically it is much easier.
Problem of cost and complexity is an excuse and it always was, the real issue is and always have been public support for fission. Attempts to start new fission reactors are not stopped by economics in the vast majority of cases. Fission energy is incredibly cost efficient, but people are scared of accidents and radioactive waste. Modern developed nations have tons of huge complex costly components in them, most are never thought about or noticed by regular people and thus get funded, built and maintained in the background with no issues.
If you want to have genuinely futuristic utopic technology, it is going to require a gargantuan upfront investment. It might not pay for itself in our lifetime - but eventually it will probably not just pay for itself, it will pay for everything.
@@calebmhorvath Fusion progress appears much like Zeno's walk without the solution. It gets worse... Consider the approval process for a ground-up new tech? 'Aint no containment thick enough... Aint no pit deep enough, ain't no water flow high enough...' A ray of hope, today's WSJ article " Energy Transfer's Kelcy Warren, a hypercompetitive mogul, is behind a lawsuit that could deal environmentalists a grievous blow." Could speed it up? That said the Chinese will have fusion up and running and dominate the known universe, and beyond, long before US approval.
Like he said, it's really humbling when you think about it; how far we have come in such little time, and what humans could still do in the future if they work together. This video hits different.
The CAD files for this thing must be interesting.
Massive understatement.
The cad files maybe. But the scientific reasearch is intrestingly inconsistent or controversial. You can build a unicorn catcher, it doesn't mean uncorns exist.
How many 5.25" floppy disks 😏
I was thinking about that, do they have all the parts in one software? This might be the most complex machine ever made.
@@gekfurianexcept Fusion does exist. It powers the sun and our nuclear weapons. Controlling it is the hard part..
Wow Fred. The honour in being able to go to ITER is immense. That truly shows the reach that this channel has. I can't imagine what kinds of security clearances you had to go through to get in there and film that. Truly dedicated to the cause of advancing/showcasing human engineering and construction. Bravo.
I had the same pleasure of visiting back in February
Considering that any country is allowed to participate i doubt the security is that strict.
Also, getting Hans Zimmer to compose the soundtrack to a UA-cam video. Really impressive.
Honor? It's a propaganda piece. I'd be surprised if they didn't pay him.
What's the price of deuterium? Tritium?
@@WorldfreeFreemark found the idiot
this is the shit that makes me want to stick around forever just to see what humans do. the good, the bad, and the ugly.
Doesn’t matter how much you want to “stick around forever”. We’ve all got our clocks ticking, and will all die eventually, no matter how bad we want otherwise
@@italianbasegardno shit 😂
@@italianbasegardgood god what a radical concept thank you for telling all of us and not wasting anybodys time
Yeah, I'm pissed about our 80-year lifespans, too. Would really love to see what the world looks like in 1000 years.
@@ClaytonTownley I can imagine someone said that 1000 years ago, and another again 1000 years from now
Absolutely fascinating! As a blind person I thank you for the verbal content. So much text is used today so this is a breath of fresh air and I love it!
What always frustrates me about the topic of ITER are the people who complain about the costs. Current estimates are around 22 billion euros over the entire construction period. Even if it ends up being 30 or 40 billion, that’s a joke compared to what, for example, the USA spends on military expenses-over 900 billion per year! Even a smaller country like Germany spends 60 billion per year.
The ITER project is so important for all of humanity. It could solve many problems and even conflicts. I wish it would receive more attention and less criticism.
Exactly. Since this project is for the advancement of all of humanity, even if it costs 100 times that it will be worth it.
Exactly, the ISS cost around $150 billion but it taught us so much about how the body reacts to extended periods of time in space, and so much form the many other experiments. Not to mention the knowledge gained from building it, like water purification.
Just because others waste more doesn't make this less a waste, now that's assuming the completed construction is a failure. Which I doubt, even though I am not sure this will be that defining moment in Fusion, I don't know what else would so this build is as good a guess as any I suppose.
If only those people knew how much it costs to build a single modern nuclear power plant. It's in the same ballpark as ITER so far.
Adjusted for inflation, the Manhattan project cost 30 billion.
If it works out it will be money well spend for sure, the 'irritating' thing is that it's a 28 year long construction project in the base case scenario. More realistically it will take longer. And even if it succeeds, it will take decades more before they figure out how to commercialize it, as every step along the 28 year way probably is crazy custom. That's not to say it's a mistake to spend the money, but it's one of the biggest gambles I think ever where the result was very much unknown (like sure, something like the space race was incredibly expensive, but every step along the way wasn't that big of a gamble based on the previous step... but maybe I am overestimating the risk of ITER being a 'failure')
This is the kind of thing that every human should be cheering for and wanting to be a part of.
Why?
@@swampy1234time to use your critical thinking skills
@@swampy1234nevermind young fella. Ask mummy when she is done wrestling with her friend in the bedroom.
no. because it will NEVER WORK. what they are building is a Giant Fuse.
@@swampy1234 Its one hell of a culmination of human advancement concentrated in a single project being contributed to globally, and if its successful it will be one of the most important experiments in human history. Also, its cool.
While it seems 90% of humans are hell bent on destroying each other, it’s refreshing to be reminded there are still a group of us who are working hard to build a better future.
its actually like 10 percent trying to fuck everyone over, and succeeding
Thank you.
Most just want to get along. Truely. Don’t let the bot armies fool you! ❤
Stupid politicians man
Lol! No.
Sees the title
So is this video going to be about the time when Germans tried to build an airport? /s
Haha, we'll cover that soon!
Well, we might not be able to build a functioning airport but at least we excel at railway infrastructure.
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Oh well.
LOL! I had almost forgotten about that one.
I thought, building the high speed rail the the Northeast Corridor in the US. Still waiting.
@@Alvias See, I don't understand that. Why, with all the German know-how and industrial expertise, they haven't managed a better system. It has to be politics, I refuse to believe Germany isn't capable of doing it.
The people behind projects like this are the true heroes of the planet.
That would make a KILLER multiplayer level...for any game!
So true!
Break out the pups from Prometheus and start scanning :)
In a new Killzone game or something, like the Stahl Arms map featured in Killzone 3. Make it a wintermap aswell and it might look super impressive with all frozen and burning parts.
Proud to be part of ITER Project. our company "INETEC" has developed inspection modules to inspect 9+ ITER components!!
This must feel truly special and rewarding 😊
While Billions of ppl are starving, you are wasting money on nothing
@@TML0677You are talking out your arse mate. Lol.
Did u check the code for Y2K compliance like INITECH from "Office Space"? Don't trust Milton w any Orange staplers or dock his paychecks 😮
@@TML0677780,000,000 people, not billions you looney tune.
As an ironworker . Couldn’t even begin to imagine how much rebar went into the ground to support all of the equipment, machinery and structure.
The B1M team is the hardest working UA-camr.. They have been travelling around the globe to deliver the best construction contents. Appreciate the hard work!
Just think. If the U.S. wasn't defending all of Europe and the EU had to foot their entire bill, they never would've been able to do any of this.
@@ChatGPT1111 Yeah at least try and hide the ignorance of using that name mate.
@@aethericgaming9068 I'm sorry, did I strike a nerve? 🤣😂🤣
@@ChatGPT1111 No, you aren't capable of such a thing.
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Huge experiment just to understand plasma and fusion principles and I am all for it.
fusion could mean as much as interstellar travel (minus the cryo-sleep concept)
@@cakeisalie If you sleep close to cooling system for the magnets, it's close to cry-sleep concept....
@@voidocvalidid we solve the problem of water crystallization making it possible to freeze human body without destroying our cells? Because the one thing is cooling, but the other thing is cooling that won't destroy our cells
@@lazymass no. Blood storage uses glycerol, though.
@@LtdJorge If that means a lot of alcohol in blood stream is part of the solution for cryo, I'm going to keep preparing.
A complex project like this deserves a complex video like this. Well done putting it together and explaining things.
Imagine this reactor sustaining fusion for 5 minutes in one day. I don't think it's likely, but imagine it anyway. After running such an experiment, researchers would examine reactor components for wear and damage. They would assess that examination to see what kind on repairs and changes would be needed prior to the next experiment. They would also decide how long the next experiment could be run without the risk of a dangerous failure. They might be ready for the next run in about 6 months. After a period of years, researchers might be able to sustain fusion continuously for 1 hour. At that point, the facility will not be able to economically and safely continue. But, we will know many things that we don't anticipate today. This will enable the design of the next generation of research fusion reactor. With the lessons learned in the construction of ITER, the next device might only require 20 years to build. That next device would still not produce commercial electricity, but it could employ actual experimental electrical generation facilities to uncover the challenges that facet of full-scale design would encounter.
60 years ago, I studied the development of "pinch" fusion reactors when I was doing my undergraduate studies. Pinch has made way for more promising approaches such as tokamak used at ITER. I will not live to see what progress we will make in the next 60 years. I hope we keep getting closer.
I hope I'll get to see this technology succeed one day! In 60 years, I will be 79 years old, if I am lucky. Even thinking that far into the future is scary, however.
@@abcdefg4570 in 60 years you could see us using this technology as a space propulsion :) reaching far planets of our solar system :) and one day even alpha centauri
@@pendrodor That would be amazing!! I wonder what the world will look like when I am an old man! I want to stay young forever, but aging is inevitable, and I will appreciate every single day I have left! Even 2050 seems like science fiction, but soon, 2050 will be closer than 2000.. It's crazy.
@@abcdefg4570 not necessarily. plenty of research groups looking for a way to reverse aging. producing new results every day. one day it'll happen. sooner than later, too.
@@abcdefg4570 we might be able to reverse,slow down aging or increase the lifespan or even freeze bodies without damage soon you might live up to that day I am rooting for you :) I am fairly young(26) so I hope one day I will get to see fusion propulsion unlocking our whole solar system for us and colonies on mars,venus,moons of asteroid belts,moons of jupiter and saturn :)
I've been looking forward to this since the announcement on Monday
It's been a long 2 days 😅
@@TheB1M
I thought I'd seen something like this recently, then thought I was going crazy cos Fred wouldn't post the same video twice!! ❤❤
I work on power stations, and we have massive setbacks on systems we sell as "Products" as in we have built similar ones beforehand, even then we hit major hickups often during construction and commissioning. I can't imagine how complex the design and commissioning is for something has never been built before. It is basically product prototyping at the edge of physics.
French scientists: we can build it at my house, my parents are cool.
The Japanese wanted to build it in their house. But unfortunately... earthquakes.
@@nands111 and space
I think it’s because the French have a bunch of nuclear know how within their country.
only time french government is generous with anything concerning it's property lmao
@@DavidDavoDavidson fission know how doesn't really help for fusion
The ingenuity of man is mindblowing 🤯
It's incredible right. Shows the power of what we can achieve when we put our minds to it.
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Oppenheimer levels of inspiration!
I agree in this case.... but we have a terrible track record... sometimes I think we need a reset.. and go back to live with nature in forest... she has all the complete systems ..all in a beautiful symphony..
Man is no where close to that..
Even women too.
insane it only costs a fraction of what we spend on war
get out of here with that common sense!
But the people on the other side of the fence are a different color/ethnicity/language/religion therefore I hate them!
Because this machine is gonna blow up the friggin world once they turn it on
You do realize these experiments are funded by the world governments so they can build fusion weapons. Governments only fund research for weapons, then after a couple decades they might let the tech role down hill for consumer use.
28:43 congrats on becoming the representative for South Korea! What an honor!
😊
who?
I appreciate the Portal 2-like music when entering the heart of the machine 😂 at 20:00
I think its actually from Mass Effect... cant believe i recognized it
Yeah, definitely Aperture / BlackMesa vibes
I'm so glad there are projects like this still happening around the world. There is nothing more inspiring than when humanity comes together, across language barriers and national borders, to push the limits of what is possible and change the future forever. Absolutely incredible video B1M team, top notch professionalism and reverence for such a topic, thanks for making this!
I've been following this thing for about a decade now, thank you for this amazing video. Can't wait to see it in action!
I remember how I took a train ride from Prague towards my birthtown some 8 or 10 years ago. Don't really know when. There was a guy working on a computer next to me, he had some schemes of coils and wiring in front of him and it looked... you just knew it was something special. Then the announcement of low battery popped up, he looked into his NTB pouch...and cursed. He left his charger in the office. I happened to have my laptop of the same brand with me, so I gladly offered it for the progress of humankind. He plugged hic computer and continued working. I couldn't help myself from asking what it was. He carefully looked around and asked: "Do you know what a tokamak is?" I gasped. "I'm from Academy of science and I'm part of the team to design and construct the prototype of the nuclear fusion reactor." I hope this is where the work of him and my other countrymen comes to fruition. This is so damn exciting. Thank you for this video
Yawn.
What a cool story!
A new power source is really not that important.
@@ASDasdSDsadASD-nc7lf tf you mean not that important? ts could literally allow us to do anything. energy is the great limit of the universe. we ca genuinely think about colonizing other planets if we can build fusion plants there. it takes 250kg of DT to fuel the Tokamak for a whole year. that's NOTHING. the issue today is obtaining the tritium
@@ASDasdSDsadASD-nc7lfone that mimics the sun at scale? Yes it is, and you’re absolutely delusional if you think otherwise, even the fact that fusion has happened THREE TIMES WITH A NET GAIN IN ENERGY WAS A HUGE DEAL TO THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY and that was small scale
"The power of thousand of suns in the palm of my hand"
I thought the exact same thing...👊
dr octavious?
@@arif8434you from Egypt?
false. completely false. completely completely false. the fusion reactor will never work. Every dollar they spend on this project today is another bad dollar after worse.
May this be the greatest act of the indomitable human spirit of my lifetime.
Or, perhaps, hubris... we'll see wont we.
@@curtisgrindahl446why would it be hubris?…
@@HarrisonSanders-xb8wncuz he thinks this project won't succeed
A lot of people think this will be a power plant, but it's not really, it's primarily a research center. We've already proven fusion works. Now we need to prove it works at scale.
"We've already proven fusion works."
We? Anyway, yes, we use a fusion splicer. Works great.
It's to harvest unlimited taxpayer funds. Hope it leads to something but net energy output is not even close to economically viable, likely never will be for Earth.
@@Mrbfgray Many dumb comments out there but you are the winner.
@@Mrbfgray i mean, we need to try... Maybe we never achieve it, nobody trully knows... But. It's so good potential source of energy that it would be so wrong to not try at all
@@lazymass Depends on the opportunity cost and likelihood of success. Will it ever exceed the economic potential of indirect fusion when solar panels continue to dramatically decrease in cost and increase in efficiency and are already on par with the cheapest electric gen? I doubt it.
Government initiatives like this are defined by inefficiencies and waste and take on a life of their own without regard to economics, often well past obsolescence.
Hydrogen fuel is a classic example, gov funds STILL flowing into that when it's been obvious for decades it's never going be remotely cost effective.
Vastly leaner, cheaper private fusion projects are in the works.
An unbelievable huge Megaproject.
But it makes me happy that so much country's are working TOGETHER. Because, that's SO hugely important. If we want to make a better world, than working together is the KEY to everything!! And this is a formidable example!!
For all mankind.
I’ve always been fascinated by making an industrial grade fusion reactor, glad it’s research is actually picking up pace
This is so enjoyable to watch. With the world in such madness, it's so heartening to see humanity at its best.
Just in case the B1M hasn’t heard this enough, thank you. I love this.
One of best B1M videos i´ve seen! Great work, keep it up!
Why does youtube not have more wholesome channels like this one, dedicated to learning and education... You have my sub 😀
That is really part of human history. I wish everyone at ITER every success. Brilliant video
Gordon doesn't need to hear all this, he's a trained professional.
Damn right son
Now send him in. “AAAaaa- “.
We've boosted the Reactor to 105%. Bit of a gamble, but we needed the extra energy output. They're waiting for you Gordon. In the Tokamaaaaac.
There's a slight fluctuation, no it's well within acceptable parameters...
who ate all the donuts?
this is so mind blowing. how does it all begin? from the design, drawings etc. gosh.
"I'm smilling not because the sun is shinning" - How to say you are British without saying you are British.
Haha, you know it 😅
@@TheB1M Great video, great work. Hopefully one day we will see it working. It's such a long awaited project.
Speaking English properly is the sure sign of being British.
Not some sorry attempt at English, like americans blurt out
@@procatprocat9647I’m American, from the US, of the rare well-educated worldly variety having spent time in Europe, and I wholeheartedly endorse your remark: Proper English.
I know right, a real British would be in awe asking what is that yellow circle in the sky
You having a role in this, no matter how small, must be the most fullfiling thing a human can do... you are literally changing the course of human history.
how is he having an impact in this?
@@99cyamaybe promotional
Lol. No.
@@99cya Increasing visibility of the project, which may bring more talent onboard. It may also attract investors and capital.
@@Elitegama2 with yt? I hope you are kidding. Wtf.
Wow...the production qualities from B1M just keeps getting better and better...Well Done FRED and your Team👌👌👌👌👌
Brilliant video. Great work B1M team 🙌🏼
Thank you so much!!
@@TheB1M Why is there zero content in the video? You know what I mean.
Hey B1M, I'm building a tool shed in the backyard, if you guys wanna come cover the sheer size and scale of it just let me know. It might even have a light in there, I haven't decided yet.
Sometimes b1m videos stop showing up in my feed as much, I end up not seeing a single video for weeks, then this pops up and reminds me that this is probably one of the best channels on the whole of UA-cam, this is what UA-cam was made for 🔥
Who says we don't build cathedrals anymore?
Right, this is next level
A cathedral of science and progress
Absolutely shattering the mind of a medieval stone mason by taking them to see a suspension bridge.
@@FoxOnFilm2209 All Hail the Almighty Atom!
The Spanish. Lol
The issue is Tritium. It is extremely rare. Current estimates put the total world wide stockpile at 25kgs and ITER will consume, by some estimates, over half of that amount. Additionally it has a half life of a little over 12 years so here is the catch: In order to breed tritium you need a working fusion reactor, and there may not be enough tritium to jump-start the first generation of power plants after ITERs experimental life (scheduled to run into the 2050's). The world’s only commercial sources are the 19 Canada Deuterium Uranium (CANDU) nuclear reactors, which each produce about 0.5 kilograms a year as a waste product, and half are due to retire this decade. The available tritium stockpile will peak before the end of the decade and begin a steady decline as it is sold off or decays, this according to projections in ITER’s own 2018 research plan.
An amazing idea that somehow got missed in the video… Wonder if that’s the limiting factor or other sources of clean energy being a little less complex and potentially more affordable… or just the whole chain reaction thing that could turn the planet earth into another sun?
Then there is how you are going to extrac the heat to boil the water. Helion plans to skip that step. General Fusion will use molten lead for heat extraction.
I believe ITER is designed to make the tritium in the fusion process itself
@@IAmMaarten It is a "future hope" as stated in ITERS's 2018 research plan. The process is theoretical at this time and highly speculative as to the effectiveness long term since the viability of an extraction process from a "running" fusion reactor at 90 million degrees F is a huge unknown since the longest confirmed sustained fusion reaction to date is 6 minutes (the Chinese claim 17 minutes but it is unconfirmed).
Is Canada building new CANDU reactors to replace the ones being retired?
With love to humanity from India 🇮🇳❤
Hope this experiment gets completed in my lifetime
I hate sponsorships normally, but the way this channel does them is near perfect
He fools a lot of people.
Knowing people like this are around makes me proud to be a human! Amazing feat
I've worked on some small international projects/teams. Every time I was part of such an initiative I always learned new things about other cultures and working methods. if you're ever able to work on international project or in an international team, DO IT! You won't regret it.
irl equivalent of those over-the-top Minecraft builds
It's been an honor to have watched this channel for so long! INCREDIBLE video
In a time when the world is swinging toward polarity, division and war, we need international projects like this, showing how we can overcome language and cultural divisions in common pursuits. We need the ISS of our generation and we need it to succeed.
There West is being ruled by the liberal governments and globalist elitists , how is it working out? It does not look good in my view., looks like a planned demolition.
Yeah 😊
LOL! Delusional.
Ah long form content, thank god! I am much more likely to watch when a video is 20+ mins long.
I love projects like this, it's not about politics or weapons. It's just an experiment for the betterment of humankind. I love learning about CERN, when that was being created and the mysteries of the universe can be discovered by us.
5.9 billion seems cheap. USA has a football stadium (SoFi Stadium) that is $5.5 billion
That $5 billion is JUST the cost overrun. Look at the beginning of the video again.
it says at 23:46 its a 20B euro project
one of my favorite channels and i'm this early lesgooooooooo
"one of" ??! We must work harder 😅
@@TheB1M that’s not a diss hahaha i can’t pick a favorite🤣
A friend of mine was used to be a theoretical physicist working on this project. Its nice to see it come along so far. im loving the resurgence of nuclear tech. I want the pledge of the 1960s of "electricity too cheap to meter" to become reality in my lifetime.
I'm betting I won't see this happen in my lifetime.
No but plenty of lying scientists will do very well out of it. Make a small fortune while claiming they need more money to make a new one as the last few dozen didn't work.
I have read (or watched, can't remember) a statement from one of the senior researchers/engineers working on the project that it is highly unlikely we are going to see fusion power in our lifetime with the current progress, unless some major breakthrough happens.
I think it will be way beyond 2050
I assure you it has already been achieved but at a much smaller scale, infact, he even states this in the video. Otherwise, there is no way this much would be invested in this large of a scale by so many countries. The real question to ask is when will it benefit society at large? Will Europeans actually benefit from affordable and sustainable energy sources? I say Europeans, specifically, because ITER is in France so they should and would be the first to benefit.
@@ndean7229 Yeah, fusion has been achieved and sustained for a 100s even, but we still can't get more power out of it than we have put in. And then there's scaling from experimental to production (once we figure out the first thing), and that part we likely won't live to see sadly.
UK media at least does a poor job covering things like this. You are filling the gap 👍
this is not the most expensive science experiment by a long shot. but impressive none the less.
ITER completion: 2036
California High Speed Rail: You guys have a timeline?
Haha.
Who could have thought that chronic underfunding could slow down major projects.
"Now we are ready to put it in" ... "Early next year" ... so they were, in fact, not ready 😂
May they succeed!!! Humanity needs this!!!
I can't believe the B1M did a video without explaining what a Tunnel Boring Machine, TBM does, and how its a massive machine that goes underground to dig tunnels
B1M has several videos on boring machines lol
@@two2truthsI think that was the point…He’s/She’s teasing.
The whole video is a propaganda piece with zero content.
Man, I envy you for being able to tour a facility like this. Congrats.
Amazing story. Fusion is the holy grail of the 21st century. Something that will benefit everyone on Earth.
Type two civilization, baby!
@@captainnemo8072not even close
@@OxyDoesIt dammit
@@captainnemo8072 I do however believe sustainable fusion power will lead us into becoming a type-1 civilization and then it could snowball from there
@@OxyDoesItdamn. I was born too early 😞
National ignition centre didn't include the power needed to generate the Lazer ( converting electric energy to light energy) which was much higher than the Lazer output. The experiment made a net power lose
That's not really important because LLNL's NIF intentionally uses older, cheaper to maintain and calibrate laser infrastructure because they are a research facility and not a power generation facility.
Its an intentional choice to use less efficient hardware because it makes their research easier without any negative impacts on said research.
@@OneDeuxTriSeiGo what if it doesn't work? If it does who will pay for the billions of £ of free energy? Will we all stay at home making free toast watching free television
@@sirdamianmental Do you mean NIF or ITER?
NIF works just fine and this fusion research is honestly more of a side project for them. Their main job is running nuclear physics experiments with the purpose of improving the US's ability to effectively simulate nuclear weapons and predict the efficacy of the warheads in their stockpile without having to actually blow them up to verify they work.
With ITER originally it was a question whether it would work or not. That's why the ramp up was so slow (10 years of testing from 2025-2035). Advances in materials and fusion research mean that ITER is actually significantly more powerful than it was originally intended to be. That's a large reason for the delays. As a result, we know the exact conditions ITER needs to succeed and it is comfortably capable of achieving them. So now the plan is to simply finish it and bring it up to full power as fast as possible because it should be guaranteed to work as long as the final few parts get built correctly and the assembly is done correctly.
It was worded something like ' the amount of energy put in to the capsule was exceeded by the amount that was released' which is true, but you are more correct when saying that total amount of energy used in the process was more than what got returned.
It's a little similar to people thinking their EV is all 'zero emissions'.. true when being driven, but ignores the amount from the mining of what goes into batteries, how they're made, etc.
@@benwu7980 a very good and relevant example 👍🏼
Thanks Fred, I'm so in need of inspiration right now.
One of the most important projects of our time.
Imagine if the money spent on wars was spent on something like this. 26 billion is nothing compared to the worldwide spending on war...
26 billion isn't even enough to build a single aircraft carrier. This costs roughly the same as 7 Arleigh Burke class destroyers, for the same cost as a fraction of the USN we are developing world changing technology.
The problem is that you need to produce hundreds or thousands of these reactors, if they all take 30 billion and 30 years to build, no one will build them.
@@hedgehog3180Not true, you can build 2 Ford class carriers for that price, and that includes 2 nuclear reactors each. You could also produce 90 Príncipe de Asturias class carriers.
@@oglordbrandon Why would they cost 30 billion or take 30 years? Do you seriously think machines cost as much as their prototype?
@@oglordbrandonbecause they already know how to build it.
There is very little technical information but overall a good video
I can't believe it's just 30 years away....
or 40, 50, or 60...
Every tradesman would be top tier level. From the scaffold builders, concrete, plumbing, and I can’t even begin to imagine the electrician’s work. Not for the project itself but for the infrastructure for it.
No reason for them to be. They hire regular joes for all of this.
Brilliant project and great video ! I like that you've included a short state of the art review of nuclear fusion at the end
Imagine the CAD file sizes on ProCore
This. This is what the best of humanity looks like.
The man behind the voice love this channel 🙏🏽🫡
That earthquake protection structure in the basement is a work of art
1985년 고르바초프 제안으로 1988년 설계 시작된 프로젝트가 D-T 반응 2039년 목표라니
이러다가 진짜 100년 프로젝트 되겠다 ㄷㄷㄷ
choen😊
So ist es.
I love this channel so much. Thanks for all the amazing content you make amigo !
While lesser men fight petty conflicts, these guys are going for wonder victory for all of us.
The Pareto Principle explains the world (a.k.a the "80-20 rule"). 80% of the world is full of petty people, 20% push the envelope. 80% are idiots, 20% are geniuses. 80% of relationships are toxic, 20% are gold. 80% of humans are evil - demons hiding behind smiling masks - 20% are angels.
The 80-20 rule explains the world and why it looks like a sewer factory. Let the 20% win against all odds.
Ah man seeing my fellow Indian engineers participating global efforts feels good. L&T is incredible from Submarines to such projects! 🇮🇳
Yeah they are in IT-Services, Defence equipment , construction, and now this 😵💫
This company is going to become a very very big MNC giant 0_0
Indian engineer....
In india = 🤡🐵🙊🙊🙈
In America = 🥇🎉😎💎
Great work on this video, but I really wish the volume levels in this video were normalized instead of jumping up and down all over the place between the segments.
Fred isn't the only one with goosebumps 😬
When they are finally ready to turn the reactor on they should get Ian McDiarmid to scream "UNLIMITED POWER!!!" when they hit the big red button!
Or Jeremy Clarkson with "POWEEER!"
THIS is the kind of globalism we all need!
“It can detect leaks the size of 1 millionth of a human hair” 😳
That's on the scale of individual molecules.
@@hedgehog3180Exactly. We use helium sniffers that count in mg/hr.
I would think if the SUN was leaking in France, people in South Africa would let you know.
14:46 woke me tf up
Frfr
Amazing. Mankind should focus on more collaborative efforts for our world problems like this instead of wasting lives, time and resources on wars.
I never thought radioactive wastage was the reason why the current nuclear fission reactor not being used so widely. Cost and complications were the real reason. It doesnot seem these reactors would do any good in terms of cost or engineering complications. this is not to take away from the fact that what we have achieved is huge... this is freaking brilliant. But it is only successful if it is affordable by the society in a large scale.... right now it does not seem so.
This. People keep missing that fuel is not the main cost in fission reactors either and yet they don't produce that cheap. A fusion reactor seems ungodly expensive, the fuel could be free and still it would cost a lot to produce electricity. Still, mastering fusion is something I think humanity should work towards; just not using utopian promises.
It's one of the components. Sure, Fission reactors are expensive, especially if you compare it with plummeting renewable costs like Solar and so when they do eventually run into overspend territory during construction the negative frenzy that spurs up isn't merely about the billions of USD that it costs but concerns about meltdown safety and waste management are also lumped together.
If you ignore those two aspects, the cost in itself, while obviously more expensive than Solar, is still justifiable for our Energy Mix, especially if you're looking to expand the Base Load power. It why China is building so many of them, and India (where I am from) is in process constructing more NPPs to increase our Nuclear Power Generation by 4 times; as the latter two aspects, anecdotally speaking, don't play a major role in this part of the world.
Back in 2015 I was fortunate enough to visit Narora Atomic Power Station and we got to talk the local residents of Narora village (an isolated village which is why this location was picked for the station) and none of them shared any concern about potential meltdown or radioactive waste. Its one thing to just be over budget but completely different for the governments to not only answer to the project spending but also assure the public that the very same public spending won't poison their water and air.
Cost can be reduced through economies of scale, however nuclear fission never really got to scale because of the political issues, especially around the waste. So far Finland is the only country in the world that has managed to build a long term deposition facility, and they're not willing to import waste. The fact that Fusion simply doesn't have this major hurdle makes it way easier to deploy at scale since there are literally no downsides. Like even renewable sources like wind has met opposition simply due to aesthetic preferences. Fusion doesn't even have this relatively minor problem since it's just a building so politically it is much easier.
Problem of cost and complexity is an excuse and it always was, the real issue is and always have been public support for fission. Attempts to start new fission reactors are not stopped by economics in the vast majority of cases.
Fission energy is incredibly cost efficient, but people are scared of accidents and radioactive waste.
Modern developed nations have tons of huge complex costly components in them, most are never thought about or noticed by regular people and thus get funded, built and maintained in the background with no issues.
If you want to have genuinely futuristic utopic technology, it is going to require a gargantuan upfront investment. It might not pay for itself in our lifetime - but eventually it will probably not just pay for itself, it will pay for everything.
8:33 Glad India 🇮🇳 is part of the project
I’m not
@@jaredyenchar2540same
@@jaredyenchar2540why brother
Wow, just wow I am blown away by its complexity and shear scale. Wow.
Fusion is always just around the corner in the next few years.
Any day now.
That said, I wish them well.
you gotta admit though saying that now is a lot different than saying it even ten years ago, some real progress has been made
@@calebmhorvath Fusion progress appears much like Zeno's walk without the solution.
It gets worse... Consider the approval process for a ground-up new tech?
'Aint no containment thick enough...
Aint no pit deep enough, ain't no water flow high enough...'
A ray of hope, today's WSJ article " Energy Transfer's Kelcy Warren, a hypercompetitive mogul, is behind a lawsuit that could deal environmentalists a grievous blow." Could speed it up?
That said the Chinese will have fusion up and running and dominate the known universe, and beyond, long before US approval.
Fission must've sounded same enough when it was discovered. Let's just hope for the best and let scientists do their thing.
@@CCRosellegiven enough funding someone will break the code. Nothing is impossible
@@theballintruth3369
The new version of the old saw, an infinite number of monkeys on an endless number of typewriters...
It will just be 20 years. For sure.
Like he said, it's really humbling when you think about it; how far we have come in such little time, and what humans could still do in the future if they work together. This video hits different.
TONY BUILT THIS IN A CAVE, WITH A BUNCH OF SCRAPS!!!
we are not tony
aistructuralreview AI fixes this (AI Structural Engineering). World's Most Complex Construction Project