This Combo Shouldn't Be Possible | Baldur's Gate 3 Oathbreaker Paladin Pact Weapon Is Insane
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- One Shot Corrupted Paladin! Baldur's Gate 3 Ultimate Guide to Best Oathbreaker Build
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00:00 - Intro
00:29 - How It Works
01:00 - Starting Class and Abilities
02:06 - Paladin Levels
03:20 - Warlock Levels
06:23 - Oathbreaker and Level 12
06:48 - Best Items
10:40 - Build Gameplay
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For future reference, in case this gets fixed, the Extra Attack from Pact Weapon (Warlock) shouldn't stack with out sources of Extra Attacks (level 5 martial classes). But in the current version of the game (hotfix 4), it does. So you get 2 Extra Attacks per turn. If this ever gets fixed, we'll likely switch to multiclassing it with Fighter, maybe Sorc for more smites,
Btw you can hit a "+" in the bottom right at the Action Bar to get extra rows so you don't have to pull the different bars around ;p
quik build tips is you speck into wizard and learn spells from scolls then spec bac you keep the spells so you can have spells like shield and have insane AC on any build I have manage to get into the 40s also a build like this but with haste GWM and a dip into fighter can give you like 12+ attacks and its pretty OP. Also Crit fishing stacks so the potion stacks with the Chapions better crits and combined with advantage it gives crits for days and its fun AF I'm running 6 plaladin/3 fighter/3 bard for this and its pretty strong
I recently saw a mod posted that adds shadow sorcerer. If the triple attack gets fixed that would pair nicely with oathbreaker.
Have they fixed Devil's Sight so it works in magical darkness now?
IMO if it gets fixed, taking oathbreaker to 9, for animate dead (kind of like an extra attack) or vengeance paladin to 9 for haste (which IS an extra attack, but only for 10 turns) is the way to go. (also you get more spell slots).
If you really want to make this more OP, finish the necromancer of thay quest line in act 3, passing all the saves. You’ll get a spell that lets you summon 6 ghouls that deal solid damage and get your aura of hate bonus; and/or bring along a necromancer wizard.
Necro Gale, Oathbreaker Dark Urge, Dark Justicar Shadowheart - WCPGW
Aura of Hate currently cannot apply to any ally undead as the Aura states "weapon damage" and ally undeads are unarmed damage
@@williamzhao7535 Skeletons have bows.
Edit:
I just read the thing and said melee weapons, soooo... Yeah, it's useless with Your undead companions 😢
@@pikulramirezportenteio aaaand its gone, they nerfed this build and that spell
@@thatwasonceDid they? I was hoping to go some version of this route. Is there an updated resource I can find on the build? I've been trying to research but not sure how to find the most current build info
This build shines in act 2 due to one key feature. Control Undead. You can take control of ANY undead creature with this oathbreaker ability as long as your target fails their save, and so long as the target doesn't specifically say it's immune to being charmed. That means you can press Malus Thorm into fighting on your side until a long rest.
have you tried it on apostile of myrkul? :D
@@pingwin4076 I haven't
Sorry but how could you go oathbraker on act 2, he said to do it on last lv character. Does oathbraker give the same powers of standard paladin?
@ghxst.4233 yes oathbreaker just has extra spells added to it.
@@patriotsroc1 alright thanks
You can break oath of vengeance when you go to rescue Lae'zel. Kill the tiefling pair and boom, instantly an oathbreaker.
Then my guy should be oath broken he had to side with laezel cause I failed some throws, but I'm not
@@KaizerTheWyvernyou have to attack them first, if you fail anything and cause them to attack or not believe you they are considered enemies to you which means you don’t break your oath. When you meet them you have to immediately attack and kill them
do you happen to know if attacking the ppl at that church thing next to lezel and the tieflings counts?
Another thing to buff this build: The Dead Shot, a very rare +2 Longbow, sold by Fytz the Firecracker in the Lower City near the Toy Store in Act 3. It gives a passive effect while equipped, you don't have to be using this, of increasing crit chance by 1 and can stack. This means without any other crit chance bonuses, you can crit on 19s and 20s. There are many other bows too that can give you passive effects while they are stowed, such as being able to cast spells like magic missile or haste once per short/long rest, advantage on monstrosities etc. Your bow choice can give you a very nice passive bump depending on what you choose. You can even double up on bonuses if you dual wield hand crossbows; the Ne'er Misser gives you an upcast magic missile per long rest and you can wield it with the Hellfire Hand Crossbow for an upcast Scorching Ray once per long rest. But there are other options I don't know about too.
Dead shot sucks unless you're building the paladin for crits. Best to have darkfire for the haste. If you get paladin to crit on like 15-20, Deadshot going to 14-20 is pretty decent. Otherwise it's better on a ranged character rather than collecting dust in the back pocket.
After you long rest, always drink an elixir of bloodlust (possible exception if you're about to act transition, because some long rests during act transitions force more than one long rest), because it will last until your next long rest, and any time you kill during your turn while the bloodlust elixir is active, you will gain another action, which means another 3 attacks.
Great guide all around. Just a small suggestion: get the bow from last light inn that grants you haste spell or use potions for haste; pop that at start of combat for that xtra 2 AC bonus along with extra action in combat further boosting your damage for 10 rounds of combat.
Exactly how I run my oathbreaker that bow comes in clutch in the big fights
Get someone else to cast haste on you and stack both XD
Do not have a paladin in my party, but omg why are they so powerfull?) Definitely gonna have a second evil playthrough as an oathbreaker paladin. The first thing I thought with this build was "Why to not do a fighter 2 / paladin 5 / warlock 5 multiclass?" Constitution saving throw proficiency, action surge, haste, elixir of bloodlust and you have 13 attacks in just one turn with that hell of a weapon. Nothing will survive this.
@@Mish_Ageaura of protection which you get at level 6 paladin is just that good for your whole party imo
@@jaihalai7674 for me the range of this aura felt too small, I had comp with 3 range characters and my front liner was always too far away from them for this aura to actually matter.
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13:25 The armour DOES count as Heavy Armour, it just automatically gives proficiency. But it means that Barbarians can't rage because it's still Heavy Armour.
You can also hit just as hard as this build with a dwarf throwing Dwarven Thrower.
I love this. Paladin's divine smite attack feels the MOST satisfying out of all the attacks and spells in the game tbh
@@wubo88 that's a close second... Unless you're building a machine gun eldritch blast lmao
@@felipecorpuz2476 Theres some high level wizard spells that are just too much fun and look amazing.
@@wubo88 it's totally different. Warlock doesn't require any rest, especially with the illithid power bug, but it deals way less damage than paladin
@@Kurdent1I'm v new but what power bug do you mean?
@@huzdahuz they fixed it.
As a intense bg 3 guides consumer i would prefer to see more early-mid game focus builds lets say till lvl 8-9 max due to the fact that at 12 u already finish the game
there is plenty of game left at level 12
@@newscore4964itd just that you don't wanna finally enjoy your build when you're at the last fight of the game yk
@@Livan-yuruikamiI think most people are level 12 for a large portion of act 3
I'm currently just now level 7 and finishing up Act 1. I'd recommend starting as Paladin 1, getting to Warlock 3 next for PotB, and then Paladin 2-5 for a good 1-9.
Or Warlock 5 first if you want an extra attack earlier, and then respec later.
Taking Hunger of Hadar + Agonizing Blast + Repelling Blast trivializes a lot of fights. Plonk one down at the highest density of enemies, especially ranged enemies, and theyre neutralized. You're free to clean up the martials that are outside of it, and if any escape you just repelling blast them back in. From what ive played so far id take it over devils sight and darkness
Just make another EB clone at that point
@@pencilbender what, and miss out on those glorious, glorious smites? And the auras? And the three attacks with my pact weapon? Why would I do that
When they get around to patching out the Bound Weapon extra attack bug I would recommend switching this build to 8 Paladin/4 Warlock since you'll no longer need 5 warlock for the extra attack. Going with an 8/4 spread nets you two additional feats which you can pump into CHA for that sweet 20 charisma and then take Polearm Master for more attacks of opportunity but more importantly a second attack with your polearm. The base damage for the second polearm attack is low but you add so many modifiers on top of it with this build that the reduced base damage is negligible.
This or, 8 fay warlock/4 paladin, for 4th level smites (only 2 but with a bard in your team it can go up to 6 because of short rests), more warlock invocations ofc, some of them are really cool, misty escape is very good because after getting hit it your next attack is at a advantage (and a free misty step is also good), greater invisibility is a really good spell that you can get too (it uses one of your spell slots but still it can give a lot to the fight if you are lucky with stealth saves), And switching up the build to be a little less tanky but getting even 24 charisma with a hat from act3 and rely more on potions to get higher strength is also fine (I finished the game with one spare potion that gave me 27 str so). That allows for more and better options for gloves slot that can give you even more dmg, and having a little lover ac but more over all buffs from other party members is generally better. The build and this one is more of a solo carry but it could get overwhelmed at some unlucky points (when fighting enemys immune to fear or something like that)
(sorry for any mistakes :3 i just finished the game with the build that typed out right now and i had so much fun, and i totally know that there is some optimization that can be done if i had that +1 from the hag in act 1)
Nah, you want more Warlock than Paladin. Warlocks have limited high level spell slots at higher levels that reset on short rest. Since Paladin and Warlocks share the same spell casting score, you can cast spells, and more importantly, certain abilities interchangeably. Start with Paladin for heavy armor and shield proficiency, completely drop strength (since pact of blade utilizes the Hexblade feature of adding the charisma to attack and damage role of the pact weapon), take 2nd level in Paladin for smite, then spend remaining levels getting to 9th level warlock (fyi, at 11th level, of the 12 you can get, you have 5th level spells with Warlocks, Paladins don’t get 5th level spells until level 17).
Now, I know this build has aura of hate in mind, so, if you really want to do this build before you the game over get the mod that lets you take the level cap to 20. There’s another that increases the difficulty of the game by doubling the hit point of the enemies. Lastly, there’s one that increase the exp gain so you can hit level 20 within the three acts and keep the game somewhat fun because the enemies don’t just die when your at level 10 at the beginning of act 2.
@@renegadeforlife5782 You straight up don't need high level spells though with this build though, better to lean in to what it's good at. By nixing Pala levels you drastically reduce your spell slots available for smites which is where the damage actually comes from, Warlock doesn't get a 3rd slot 'til 11 which you're not going to reach and Pala2 gives you 2 level 1 spell slots which leaves almost no room for Hunter's Mark/Hex, Agathys, Hellish Rebuke etc. Sure you can upcast your smites, but only twice per short rest on a build that wants to hit many times a round. Also personal opinion is 5th level Warlock spells are pretty lacklustre but that's subjective.
Oathbreaker7/Warlock4/War Cleric1 gets the best balance of big damage, plenty of spell slots and 4 attacks per round with Haste (same as Lock5 and higher) as well as 3 bonus attacks per short rest from War Cleric. If you don't care about Aura of Hate you can do Vengeance or Ancients for better spells or better defences, respectively. Biggest issue is you don't get selfcast Haste from Vengeance9 but the game gives plenty of potions and you can use items or your party. Also means your concentration is free for Hunter's Mark or Hex. You get 18CHA with Hag's Hair and can hit 20 with one ASI meaning you don't need 3 feats.
@@voigto Yeah, higher level spells aren't always all they're cracked up to be. I have a 6 tempest cleric / 6 storm sorcerer, and at level 12 I exclusively use call lightning and lightning bolt for attacks, along with lightning charges, create water, etc (the "spark" gear). Anyway, point being, upcasting lightning bolt or call lightning feels every bit as strong. And being a pure caster the spell slots to upcast are there, just not the high level spells themselves. On certain spells, upcasting a great spell can trump a higher level spell which isn't upcast.
nah, optimal smiting pallock is always gonna paladin 2/warlock X
I love the idea of oathbreaker subclass, I use wish their divine smite reflected their corruption. Like a form of unholy smite.
I have a lot of faith that the missing community will make a mod for this that gives you a necrotic smite option. The only downside is that so much of act 2 is undead enemies with resistance or immunity to necrotic damage.
It does. The "ring" around your character when you prepare a Smite attack turns red when you're an Oathbreaker.
To further improve this build.
Half Orc for 3 dmg die on Crits passive.
Helmet: I'd swap for the Helmet of Grit from Cazzadors Palace, It gives you a permanent bonus action as long as you are on 50% HP.
(And honestly, by the time you reach A3 your main character is killing 5+ enemies per turn anyways so no fight ever lasts long enough for you to take dmg... I wiped out Raphael on Tactician in a single turn using only 2/4 party members)
Cloak: Obviously Durge cloak If ur Durge, otherwise Cloak of the Weave for the +2 spell Attack Rolls and other nice stuff.
Chest: the one ya got is solid enough. But you could go for Bhaalist Armour which makes all enemies within 3m vulnerable to Piercing, and then you swap your weapon for a Piercing wep instead of Greatsword. Good Piercing weps to go for: Orins dagger +
Gloves: The 23str gloves are really solid. But Bonespike Gloves ignore resistance to Slashing/Bludgeoning/Piercing. And the +18 Dex +1 Attack gloves is also a better option, since you can always just use Giants Hill pots for 27 Strength. If you just respec a companion you do not use into Alchemy wizard for 2x Flasks per Craft + buy out Vendors inbetween each level up you can have enough Gian Potions to last entire Playthrough for permanent 27 Str. So taking the +18 Dex +1 Attack + using Potions means you can drop Dex & Str to 8, and add even more points into Charisma, Constitution, Wisdom & Int.
Boots: I would recommend the Helldusk boots.
I think I did raphael very slow.. like 15 turns? and killed everything and all pillars BEFORE raphael.. I dont use mindflayer powers so..
Tbf I'm mad at myself for Meta gaming it,
My first playthrough was fun because of the challenge, then when I got to A3 I was bored of my build. (Shadowmonk+Bard with 0 thought toward building smth strong or viable)
Respec'd that into OP Dual wielding X'bows + Shadowheart Cleric/Paladin/Fighter/Warlock Tank with insane burst dmg.
Then just had Karlach around because she's Bae.
And Gale tagging along purely to give me Haste + Bless + other buffs.
Then in my Durge, Evil and Good playthroughs I'm Meta gaming a 2H Paladin multiclass, dual wielding dagger and OP Magic builds and every fight even on Tactician with Tactician+4 mod are just too easy.
Takes a lot of the fun away when epic encounters are shorter than the Cutscene before them :')
@@thescatterpiratesquarepant7935
for boots i will use the boots of persistence from dammon in lower city, it just makes me comfy with my playstyle
There's another ring that works really well with Balduran's Helm or the ring that heals you per round. It gives anyone you heal Blade Ward and Resistance, and the heal you get at the start of the round counts. So you can give yourself those constant buffs. As well theres a ring that blesses the heal target, same as before constant bless.
That fucking Blade Ward on heal w/ aoe heal carried my ass. Its just so sexy and smooth.
Where can you find these items?
Baldurans Helm is in Act 3, drops off a particular boss. The ring that heals you at the start of each round is sold in Sorcerous Sundries, Act 3. The ring that Blesses heal targets is sold in Goblin Camp Act 1. Cant remember about the blade ward resistance ring.
@@awaken6760 The Hellrider's Pride gloves from the druid grove give the blade ward on heal, not sure if there's a ring too.
@@heiral7773just like you
For future reference, the extra attacks stacking is confirmed by a larian product manager that it is working as intended! possibly a bug turned feature but a recognized feature now nonetheless
the comment i was looking for. Thanks
Dude, I started a neutral githyanki playthrough last monday and I took pretty much this build (but I kept the Vengance pact for hunter's mark). And I even named that char "Azo'rael" which pretty much sound like the name you used here xD
As Paladin Oath of Vengeance, you can easily break your oath and become an Oathbreaker by accepting the power/ability 'hair' from defeating the Hag.
Yep, but if you respec in act 3 it’s harder
Even easier in Act 1 or 2, just open Sazza's cage door. Even if she isn't in there or is dead.
i did that and it didn’t break anything. i had to fully betray an entire group of plant people in order to get scottish knight
more early you can broke the oath by killing the tieflings who capture lae'zel
@KhrazeGaming I think I'm missing something here. You mentioned leveling your Charisma to 20 and then 22 with mirror, but where are you getting the +2 Charisma after you use your last feat choice on an ASI to get 18?
what level would you consider swapping from the pure pally to this? and how is oath of veng vs oathbreaker
That's a great build mate!
I think though there might be a very cool variation of that:
In this one I take Oath of Vengeance and I do not break it because this gives me "VOW OF ENMITY" that you can selfcast (I don't know if this is intended) and gain 10 turns of Advantage on EVERY single enemy (or allies lol). This compensates the Weapon Master -5 on ATK rolls so well and just for a mere Bonus Action. And this resets on short rest. Moreover it does not require concentration so you can actually take Hex from Warlock (cast the Cons one as a lot of your attacks have Cons saving throws) and spam that on biggest foes for another d6 of necrotic damage.
Also, when you use the Gith legendary weapon you can get from Voss, you can bring with you the device that sets surrounding beings in a state of immense joy, giving you some advantages on throws but also Vulnerability to Psy damage for another 2d6 Psy damage on every attack (4d6 on a crit lol). -> Don't forget to send the device to camp before any massive Giths or Mind Flayers encouter because they will deal double Psy damage to your party as well.
[NOTE]: You can lack of damage against Physical damage resistant foes, there is an oil called Oil of Sharpness if I remember correctly. It allows you to ignore these resistances for 10turns costing a Bonus Action to cast on you weapon.
[NOTE]: For the ones who prefer Oathbreaker, you can easily break it in act III by swearing to Gortash that you will help him (Paladin exclusive dialogue option).
[RANDOM NOTES]:
- Nere's boots can be a brilliant option to make sure you stand still and you get Misty Steps for this mobility issue.
- Until you get your hands on Baldurian's Helm, go for the one you get from killing Forge of Adamantine boss: No crit can be dealt to you, resistance to Fire (magic and non-magic sources) AND Hunter's Mark which is a nice placeholder when you don't have access to Hex yet.
- Ketheric's Body Armor is super nice for the passive you get, -2 damage from ALL SOURCES and 19 AC.
- There is a ring that gives you +3m mobility which is nice if you want more of that.
Bonus for those who would like to go super high in damage numbers -> There is an amulet called Amulet of Branding that applies a physical Vulnerability of your choice for the next instance of damage taken. This is a Bonus Action and resets on short rest. You can get to 120 total damage or so with a crit when applying this in addition to Hex and all the above items.
Yours is the best comment I’ve read here so far. Keep it up G
@@memaximoron Thanks buddy! Happy to help!
Do you run 2h sword or a halberd?
@@zowda4368 I run a two handed something haha ! Act 1 I like to take the Master LS, the one you craft from under dark wood until I can get my hands on the Gith's Crèche loot if I'm a Gith, or something better later on like Ketherick's Hammer
My first character in the game was a Sorlock because they didn't have the Hexblade in the game, and I learned way later that the base Pact Weapon was using Charisma...
But my next one will be similar to my character in our long campaign with Paladin 7, Warlock 5, and Sorcerer all the way to 20 (currently at 14 after 2 years). This is one of the best and most fun builds in 5e.
If you want to break your oath super early, when you reach Emerald Grove find the makeshift prison. I then stood between the guard and the little goblin lady, then told the goblin lady she needed to stay in the cell to learn. However, if you then unlock and free her so you can find her healer, you break your oath.
Can do it before that. Kill the tieflings holding Lae'zel captive in the hanging cage. Killing them (considered innocents), starts you on your path.
This is only for vengeance btw^
I broke mine with the witch, where i got her hair and let her go while I still saved the girl
Really loving Paladin. My try out this build was I get further into the game.
@KhrazeGaming Did they fix the Strength being added to your Damage while using pact of the blade? I am currently not getting any Str Modifier on my Dmg After doing the pact, Only Charisma.
Thats a real solid build, if you include Luck of the Far Realms on your highest level smite, you will double that damage
Also guys, I found that re breaking oath after passing up all the early stuff was a pain. I did find if you go ancient, you can go back to the grove and kill one of the gnomes sitting at the table and it will re break your oath. Cheers!
Can't go back to Grove after certain point in A2.
Only possible way for me to Oathbreak again was quite a nasty way...
I had wiped out everything in A2. So there wasn't anything for me to kill that would oathbreak....
So turning back to camp confused on wtf to do Scratch comes upto me to cheer me up.
And It dawns on me... I have one possible way to Oathbreak.... I must do the truly unspeakable....
Yes. It works, you can kill Scratch.
However within a minute of doing so I opted for plan B.
Start that playthrough over from the very beginning, sacrificing 67 hours of playtime :')
When it comes to this video build, is there an ideal level for me to break my oath?
@@SinKieran how far into act 2 are we talking? I’m at moonrise and need to respec soon. Don’t wanna pass it up
@@SinKieranamazing LOL
@@Bdadd1225 I think it's tied to the Mausoleum. There's a pretty big warning about point of no return in there
Glad knowing that they will patch warlock 5 before i invested on it.
Still on beginning of act 2,
Gotta stop at warlock 3 and continue my paladin till 6 or 7.
Then maybe taking warlock 4 and/or fighter 2 for action surge
Whispering promise ring is a strong contender here - bless at the start of every turn, since you're healing yourself a little every time.
don't you want to be under 50% hp to get the helmet buff?
been using this with Haste from my wizard support and the red elixir that gives you a bonus action on killing an enemy. killed the gith patrol in one turn on tactician.. and that was when the build wasn't even fully online. Paladin is scary in BG3
For anyone who wants easy way to break oath of vengeance just unlock sazza cage in grove and after just click the cell door if you want to do it again but the second time you’ll have to talk to the knight to telk him you want to break oath
Doesn't killing the tieflings that capture lazhel break oath for all Paladin except vengence?
I've been running this for a bit, very fun build.
You should do a build with dual handcrossbows, right now there's a bug and sharpshooter -5 on attack rolls doesn't apply to the offhand but even without that if you do a build with 3 levels in thief and anything else that boosts your attacks and synergies with hand crossbows you can easily do 200-400 dmg per turn i did thief3 and fighter(chap)9 with the helmet that helps with crits so you can deal crits at 18-19-20 rolls and the most dmg I did in a turn was 473 (hasted and action surge) BM fighter works too if you don't max out your dex 4:44
Being able to get to level 13 really helped the showcase in this video ;)
How did he get level 13?
@@philipdaviddavies9478could be the mod that raise the max level to 20, but had to multiclass as the max class level will still be 12
it’s 7 and 5 where are you getting 13?
13 levels? What? 7+5 = 12 :)
quick maffs...
Wow amazing build great job!!! I just buy the game and i want play paladin and with your video i have my build now :D
Just a little question, for the Oathbreaker, do you have to take it as soon as possible or do you have to wait until the very end to get it ?
Wait until act 3 to oathbreak. If you get Hags hair, then you can only use it once. What I mean is that if you use it, then the +1 will be gone if you respec again. And you can’t respec until you get your oath back if you become an oathbreaker. So, save hag hair and use it act 3. Respec at level 12 to be oath of devotion, go kill someone in Rivington. Now you’re an oathbreaker. Now make your build for the rest of the game and use hag hair at that point.
The charisma from pact weapon doesnt stuck anymore with the strength modifier. Just tested it
Hi @KhrazeGaming truly loved the build and I'm still learning while playing with my friends, but I think I messed up a couple of times since I got the Oath of Devotion and tried to be Oathbraker, I'm literally killing everything but the Oath doesn't break and I'm only left to killing the githyankis in the bridge away from finishing act 1, any recomendation to quickly become Oathbreaker fast? I'm currently omw to kill Scratch the dog to see if that works.
you can break oath of vengeance by simple free the goblin Sazza, she is lock in the tiefling camp. rlly fun build.
And if you freed her ahead of time, or need to respec, just interacting with the cage door again will break your oath as well
Fastest way is to tell two Tieflings to kill Lae'zel and then kill them.
Didn't work for me for some reason
I am so bummed that they ruined greater invisibility.. getting it from archfey made me so happy being pally / lock.. hopefully they will change it back, but until then, this build looks fun aswell.
Note about aura of hate- it affects you as well as all fiends and undead in range. That includes enemies so I'd your fighting a devil or some undead like in act 2 they will benefit.
oh fml thats not good!
@@crazedmonk8u That is very big to know. But you can summon undeads on the rest of your team.. and use it that way.. A protip is to just put a few corpses in your inventory (or send them to camp and summon them there if they're permanent, and then summon them after a long rest from your camp chest :D)
to add to this, you can turn auras on and off - might have to drag into your bar from the spell book first though
I'd doing this build myself (prior to this video).
Although I changed up the order a little bit and did 1 paladin, 5 warlock, then the rest paladin.
I did NOT know that strength adds onto the damage along with charisma though! that's kinda amazingly OP. I dunno if i can respec to add strength though, i'm already an oathbreaker.
Also, i did the fiend for warlock, for hellish rebuke. But I see now that was a mistake. I really need a respec.
I wouldn't respec for the strength. There are gloves of the hill giant that you can get in Act 3 that will put your strength to level 23 I believe. So I'd just go for those once you get to that point. You can stock up on hill giant potions before then for when you need the extra damage
Level five paladin gor extra attack, level five pact of the blade warlock for the extra attack with pact weapon, and level 2 fighter for acces to action surge. Your paladin will be taking out big bosses single handedly
You can take elixirs of cloud giant strength to get up to 27 strength and have some better gloves, since they last until long rest. You could simply use the bard gloves from the mimics in act 1 that give +1 AC for example.
27str elixir? Where u get that from. Know only 21str
Around level 6~ some merchants, particularly the dwarf alchemist at the myconid colony, will sell cloud giant fingers that you can turn into an elixir of cloud giant's strength. Merchants will also (rarely, seemingly) just sell the elixir@@Bigbadmadafklt
@@censuur12 Wow, this game keeps surprising me.. And i thought i got all alchemy recipes, really tried to do so, probably missed that or have to check maybe i have it and just didnt notice. big thanks to you for the info!
The point of the build here is using Charisma for all of your atks/spells. The Str buff would be useless here.
Do you have to get to late game before breaking oath, or you won't get the paladin auras?
for leveling up, what would be the moments to respec ? like going first to 5 pala then respec for 2 pala 6/7 warlock ? Or directly going warlock at 3 ? Ty in advance
Few doubts about this build
Does the double stacking of strength and charisma still work?
Does the extra attack from warlock still stack?
Just asking cause i read conflicting remarks
i am so terrible at this game lol
Honestly most of it is just the game itself and its dice randomness
I have a question: i not clear for me, coz i'm not an D&D player, but theorically Paladin stat base is Charisma, so I have to pump it above strenght for more chance of hit opponents? Or viceversa?
Sorry for my ignorance, but i'm kinda lost, to how hit and hot do more damage based on character stats.
Pact of blade said you use charisma modifier *instead* of Str or Dex.
But in this vid they stack both. Is that a bug or intentional? @5:09
FYO best starting subclass for this build is Oath of Ancients... you get an amazing heal to get through thr start of the game and to break the oath you simply go free the goblin from the grove
or attack an innocent animal.
What do you recommend instead of hellish rebuke?
update to this. This build got nerfed in Honor mode only. In Tactician you're still free to abuse this build.
Is it good on balanced ?
@@alexneedham2510 pretty good
you should switch your helm for birthright cap that you can buy in act 3 is a pink. It will bump your charisma to 22 that would give you an extra plus 1 to dmg attack roll and saving throw via aura of prot. Also boots, disentegrating night shoes makes you immune to floor cc like ice grease, and immune to ensnared entangled
You can then do house of grief shadowheart subquest and if you pass some checks and so forth, get another +2 charisma for 24charisma.
@@tomhg38 oh rly haven't done that yet.
@@tomhg38the birthright hat grants a "+2 CHA, up to 22" so if you use the mirror ASI to get it to 22 the hat won't add any more to it. Just an FYI, my party ran into that during our game.
@@tomhg38 I completed House of Grief but couldnt get any bonuses from the Mirror. :(
@@drewmacdonald8402 that isn't true, my current paladin/warlock's stats are 23 strength, 23 constitution (from the 2 house of hope items) and then 24 charisma, 2 from ability points, 1 from hag hair, 2 from, the hat and 2 from the mirror.
To make the mirror work I had to pass a 20 and a 25 check and then save and load offering different things, in the end my thay theocracy knowledge was the thing that worked and gave me the option to choose +2 to a stat (i chose the charisma option, something about a bard who charmed a dragon).
I played this exact build in my first playthrough combined with the illithid flight ability it was ridiculously strong
How was the hit chance in early game?
@@Imperator1888 in early game bless is very helpful and there are gloves which gives you advantage when theres 3 enemies close to you.
@@healmyvision5941 Increase a higher level the hit chance? Because the packt weappon is in late game
When should I oath break
@@wellwabbit6431 the big deal of oathbreaker is at Paladin lvl 7 , so max lvl
Hi, is it better to go with Oath of Vengeance for the Vow of Enmity ? So like 5 Venge 5 Warlock and 2 Fighter ?
To break your Oath, you can give the Mind Flayer in the Rivington windmill a corpse and it will break any oath.
I thought i was going crazy but it really is hard to become an oathbreaker as a vengence paladin. Like people talking back to you with attitude is justifiable reason to smith them. And i agree
Would you recommend waiting to get the gloves before re-specing?
That knight appeared for me when I did the Madeline Quest. Was taken aback as I didn't know that was a thing.
You probably forgave her as a vengeance paladin and that;s why
Found out that you can break the oath again by just talking to the oath breaker guy and choose the option to break the oath again
Instead of Shield of Faith, concentrate on Hex (or any of the other spells that cause more damage when you attack with a weapon, like Hunter's Mark) for even MORE damage lol
This build can be started as early as Act 1 by taking Oath of Devotion, or Oath of Vengeance and using Disguise Self by using the Mask of the Shapeshifter or by being a drow or githyanki and killing Demaise and Nymessa before freeing Lae'zel, or by sparing Auntie Ethel and taking her hair for that extra +1 to any stat.
however becoming a oathbreaker means you can't respec until restore you oath
Just to let you guys know: in act 3 the oathbreaker knight is bugged and won't show up. There are multiple threads on reddit and larian forums for almost 2 weeks. Thing is: if you breaj your oath you'll recieve the debuff but wont be able to reclaim your oath nor embrace oathbreaker, and also wont be able to respec. Makes this build broken unless you put it together before act 3
Not to say the bug doesnt exist, but i specifically broke my oath in act 3 for the first time in the jail cell saving that one lady with the pruple robe by killing the guards. And he appeared for me. So its still doable.
theres also multiple people who has reported that they are unable to reclaim oath since the game crashes, myself included. I had no problems reclaiming oath in act 1 but it's somehow broken in act 2 so now I'm stuck with my class
He showed up for me in act 3, this clearly isn't a bug everyone will experience. Still an issue
Hopefully this will get addressed with the first major patch.
There a mod on nexusmod that fix that.
This is the build i went with for roleplay i like fighter / mage in baldurgs gate 2 so i went warlock 5 for the extra attack and haste. And then went oath breaker paladin. Didnt realize how good thr build would actuall end up being
like a spellsword?
Is it recommended to break oath as soon as possible or wait till level 12??
@5:15 What setting or addon was used to show the details of damage?
I’m confused a little why would you put ur con at 16 when you have a necklace that puts it at 23 instead dump it into dex for a higher AC and maybe some in wis and int
can you start with oathbreaker early or do you have to do at lvl 12?
Which companions would you guys suggest with this build? Or witch builds would work good with this one?
You can completely dumpstat str with those gloves. Same thing with gloves of dex. If you dump it all the way you will get -1 saving throws but in said stat but still have all the saving throw benefit of the stat. It kind of lets you pad stats in a stupid kind of way. You obviously don't need to do it but you can.
He doesn’t even need those gloves once he’s gone pact of the blade. You don’t need any strength for roll/damage modifiers with a pact weapon. Unless the game is double stacking them, which it shouldn’t.
@@kjamesjr It should be pretty easy tor someone going this build to figure out. Equip gloves. Attack a couple targets. Rinse repeat without. I think at one point they did double stack but I think they fixed it? I'm not sure.
@@kjamesjr he needs those gloves for more damage because of the sword he is using.
@@assault410 Okay so the weapon is doubling his str modifier. In this case it makes a lot more sense.
@@kjamesjr correct. if he was using any other sword then those points/gloves would be worthless, for damage anyways
I was running oath of vengeance and broke it agreeing to Gortash's proposal in act III. I think that's only if u have Karlach in your party.
The extra attack stacking has to be a bug.
The thumbnail is 🔥🔥🔥🔥 is that character in it from something else???
Forgot the haste bow with + resists! I'm assuming with haste you can get even more attacks in hehe.
All this relies on having the gear from house of hope (which is practically end game anyway) - how do you get that and survive Raphael - this looks so fun but not sure I could get past Raph to get out of HoH with the items :(
I made this build for Wyll because I thought the warlock paladin fit his character. Didn't know about strength glitch. Not sure if I want him that OP on balanced
what's the strength glitch? is it the gloves?
so does it matter when I break the oath or should I hold off until I get the levels?
Is great weapon master really worth it? I find I miss way more. Yeah it does more damage but I miss 2 trys, so I toggle it off and hit the 2 times I miss its basically the same amount of damage
The Giantslayer adds a second str modifier to your dmg. Since you have 23, wouldn't it be better to not pact bound the weapon? Wouldn't that be 2x6 extra dmg instead of 6+5? And also 1 more for the attack role? What am I missing?
The detail from the damage calculation shown lists the +6 from str is applied from the weapon alone due to its ability. In this instance, leaving it as a non pact weapons would have added 1 damage to all attacks. That said, since the (likely unintended) interaction with any extra attack class and blade pact warlock adds an extra attack (3/round normally with interaction) with pact weapons, the loss of 1 damage/attack is outweighed by the additional attack per round. This would likely work better as a 5 pally/5 lock/2 fighter build for all of the synergies listed + action surge for a potential of 9 attacks per turn with haste with minor loss of level 6-7 pally abilities, imo.
what do you recommend if you dont have the giantslayer sword yet? Any temporary replacements?
there are heaps of really good greatswords or use the polarm in act 2. Githyanki swords are awesome too
im curious how would u set up your allies for this build ?
This build goes so hard with durge + partial ceremorphosis
9:51 not using the necklace of paralyzing critical or the executioner ring to guarantee crit after crit after crit...
this seems amazing. I want to play it as dark urge, i think that would fit great. Kinda reluctant to abandon my playthrough tho, i just got to act 3.
No need to abandon your playthrough lol. Just do this as a second playthrough or something
I got one last question, is Ketheric's armor good for this build or should I just go with end game armor?
I've used this setup with ring of risk, much more consistent hits especially against high ac targets
is there anyp oint to getting the ring if I already have savage attacker feat?
@@Glonic Savage Attacker is for damage rolls, Risky Ring gives advantage on attack rolls.
@@lewisphillips7223 ah would u take this over the blink ring? Blink is quite useful was very useful for the Ansur fight fr
@@Glonic I personally really like Risky Ring, advantage on every attack is really strong. The ring does come with a downside though, you get disadvantage on saving throws but this can be mitigated.
@@lewisphillips7223 Especially as a Paladin with jacked Saving throws, you should be fine under most circumstances, because lategame paladin can usually get at least a +3 or +4 minimum to all of their saving throws
What ability points do you put if you dont have those end-game gloves?
I am confused , Eldrict Blast scale with Player Level or Class level ?
i started at lv1 Paladin , lv2 Paladin and lv3 Warlock.. (im stil llv3) , shouldt the eldrict blast damage scaled to lv3 (my character level) and not lv1 (warlock level) ? the tooltip of Eldrict blast only show 1-10 damage of lv1 eldritch blast.
It uses your Charisma for spell casting! As you get to LV 5 and LV 10 (character) you get extra blasts rather than extra dramage (which is still great).
The charisma modifier for bonus damage is overriding my strength modifier. I don't get both. They must have patched this
Strength modifier was only included because the weapon he was using adds it twice (first was CHA, weapon effect uses STR)
It is normal that you can only have 1 modifier.
use the deva's mace in act 3, you can deal up to 100 dmg for free, and the deva mace is way easier to get in early act 3
pack of the blades is really cool and all but I refuse to use it because no matter what I ALWAYS forget to rebind my weapon after short rests
@khrazegaming, how do you get 20 Charisma with this build if we're losing a feat by doing 7/5 instead of 8/4? I'm stuck at 19 Charisma and my attack is only +8.
Mirror of loss I think
Did they fix the pact part with the sword🤔 i dont think im getting 2 modifiers when i hit someone
Khraze, can you do a oathbreaker build that uses a lot of lightening.
Not sure what your already concentrating on if essential but theres a bow that grants you haste. May never shoot the bow but haste is stupidly brocken on a guy that attacks 3 times an action already
There are actually 2 bows that grant haste. One in act 2 and a legendary bow in act 3. The one in act 2 is better though due to giving resistances to both cold and fire damage. My githyanki paladin has resistance to fire, cold, psychic, bludgeoning, piercing, slashing damage, *and* all spell damage thanks to being oath of ancients.
@@louiesatterwhite3885 you could add a cleric buff "something with feast" that makes you immune to disease/ frightened and poison. (lvl 6 spell).
so is this build better than the rpjames paladin cleric one ? cuz i cant test im only lvl 8 or 9. entering baldur
Question on the items, if you scale fully off of charisma then what is the point of having the 23 strength gloves on you? Is it used somewhere else in the build or do you still use strength for your attack bonus?
strength is there for 2h sword - its special ability works with strength
Armour of agatys is a funny spell. Its one of the WORST spells in the game but the higher level its casted at the better it becomes until at max (in the game at least) it becomes one of the most OP spells in the whole game and is a must take
8+5=13 ...wasnt 12 max level ?