The fact that it only drops down to an 8 shot kill at range is quite interesting. With how low you can get the recoil on this thing you can challenge people at range no problem.
The Siege Wire stock in particular is fucking ridiculous. It's hands down the best stock in the entire game. Even tuned for 100% ADS walking speed it still has zero recoil. If you aren't using the wire stock you are using this gun incorrectly lol.
The way I see it, this pistol is insane because its a competent smg whilst having all of the benefits of a pistol. You don't need overkill to run it, you can use it whilst hanging off ledges, the swap time is really fast, you can use it underwater, and it's got a potential 71 rnd drum. This thing is disgusting, and they haven't even released the akimbo attachment for it ☠️
They purposefully haven't put the Akimbo on it... It's been known for a little bit (Stated actually) that it wasn't going to have it. So why think they're going to 'release' it on a pistol that can basically be a short range pocket Fennec?
@@HyperDarkmoon Which is justifiable because this community has been nothing but whiny little babies for it. For real though, people were exactly the same back in MW19 and now they praise it to high heaven. Does this game have problems? Yes. Are they THAT bad to making the game unplayable? No lmao.
@Jasper-Holland there will be on Tuesday or whenever they update their little shop. And that has been the play for years. It'd be retarded to not think that's gonna happen
Thing has been doing work for me in DMZ. Shreds the NPCs and actually does very well on 3 plate players also. Might be a touch overtuned, but in DMZ in particular, it is just "very solid" I think.
no, its not good for 3 plate players. I had to use my entire 72 round drum mag just to break someone's 3 plate armor in the complex. It does indeed, shred bots and the damage is bugged against bosses it kills them in a few seconds.
@@redequinox9874 Shotguns in DMZ's complex absolutely shred as well, I reccomend either the Expedite or Brysons. DON'T take dragon's breath though, especially if you're running the Broadside! They do pitiful damage against AI targets!
As always thanks for the high quality analysis of the guns in this game, but one thing I would ask is for a long range setup for each gun, since those long shots are required for camo progression on each weapon.
Jump into my first PvP game since it launched and all I heard was the super fast report of this gun spraying all over the map! Fun to use and great video for various builds, thanks!
This is exactly why I love these videos. As soon as I unlocked it, it felt super OP up close, but when you run the numbers, it’s not really out of line. Sure, it kills fast really close, but as you stated, not out of line with even the other pistols up close. At midrange, I find the X13 way more controllable and can reliably get kills with it at 20-25m, but with this, I struggle at those ranges, even with the bigger magazine. And then compared to the one hit potential of the Desert Eagle and Basilisk or the reliability of the P890, I feel like it’s not really OP, it’s just a little more forgiving than some of the other pistols. Plus, the handling being slower and more SMG-like balances it as well. It’s a fun gun, but it won’t be replacing the X13 or P890 (for 6v6) or Desert Eagle (for Ground War and Warzone, not that I play much Warzone anymore) as my go-to sidearms.
Really weird thing about this gun, stocks make you put your eye much closer to the iron sights. Also, one of the barrels even changes the look of the irons. Pretty cool details, I like iron sights.
I mean it’s not “weird” when you’re physically shouldering the gun now, thus having it closer. The shortened barrel on this gun also affects how you hold it, making the iron signs larger.
@@davixn Most guns don't work this way in this game, from what I remember. At least, not to the extent this one does. Also, I'm talking about the Streetsweeper barrel. It literally has different sights.
@@mscup8814 i know that. The street sweeper barrel has completely different irons, but the mouse 99 barrel makes your character hold it closer to your body. I mean, most guns DO work that way, keep in mind we don’t have a base stock with this gun, when you add a stock (also goes for the x12 & x13) then they’re actually using it. Same thing goes for when you remove a stock from a primary, you hold it further.
For those who came here looking for Hardcore ranges, it appears to be a 2-shot anywhere in the first two damage ranges, a 2-shot in the torso in the third range, and a 3-shot otherwise.
I love the fact it feels like an SMG. My favorite class has been to run a longrange build DMR and use overkill to pair it with an SMG for closer quarters situations, this gun allowed me to drop overkill for something more helpful while still achieving the same purpose the class had before. Love it.
It'd be very interesting to see the Makarov in this game too. Also would be fun to see the Glock with the 100rnd duel drum, but the drum would cancel out the duel wield. Would be some very different full auto high cap pistols. This gun also really makes me wanna see a Full Auto Famas ripping away at its actual fire rate.
Thank you for your hard work as always . It's very much appreciated.. and it's straight to the point no fluff or bs , cause we all allready know the game is in bad shape . Nice to not hear it in a video
Interesting how this gun doesn't have an open bolt delay in spite of it being depicted as open bolt in the Inspect animation. Giving it an open bolt delay would be an easy way to "nerf" it.
Its nice to have a lethal option besides akimbo pistols for secondaries for people not using overkill. Would love to see some kind of 3 round burst pistol as well.
i’d have to disagree. Considering in the meta, currently this isn’t game breaking. Not to mention you said it best this doesn’t have a better ttk than most of the other guns in the game. One thing MW2 did right was balancing pistols. The p890 has a better ttk and range, the basilisk and .50 gs can one shot, and the basilisk has snakeshot akimbo, and the .50 gs is borderline a mini dmr. Smgs are still going to be better than the ftac, and so are every other primary weapon. I would describe this gun as a forgiving easy to use secondary for the majority of the player-base. But at the end of the day there are better and more lethal options. The ftac is just new and probably feels annoying to some people cause everyone is using it, but after the honeymoon period fades people are just going back to what they normally use
It’s got the same issue as the fennec, where it does kill relatively fast, but the amount of bullets needed makes it feel weak. It seems strange to me though that they added the Tec-9 over a more modern pistol, or even a m1911.
This thing is like a pocket-Papushka with that 71 round drum and blistering RoF, and you can make it a cursed homeboy tommy-gun with the foregrip mods available
Ya know, the moment shot that thing in the firing range, my immediate thought was "My god, it's a pocket MG42/PPSh hybrid" Glad to say I at least recognized that fire rate
Hey Ace. Great video as always. However, i do believe that you missed the open bolt delay that this gun has. Not sure of the exact numbers but it does feel long enough to throw the gun off a bit at close range
I tried testing for this but wasn't able to measure any delay at 120FPS. It is a bit tricky to detect perfectly with hand testing though so it's possible there is a small delay.
This thing looks hilarious when you start decking it out in attachments and it looks so smothered in tactics, "when you max out the starting pistol" meme indeed! Shame this is suicide to try and unlock in Warzone if you don't have MW2, I only got it because of the free shipment trial.
This gun has the fire rate and power of an MG42 when you pick it up off someone and see it in killcams, then when you finally unlock and equip this, it shoots beanbags since that's the very day it got nerfed.
Removing a stock dramatically increases the recoil that a gun will see, so adding a stock back on will reduce recoil to sensible levels. Any stock, recoil rear grip, and vertical muzzle brake tame this bullet hose so well you can challenge people further away than you should have a right to.
Ace are you sure about the ttk and shots to kill per range ? I'm in the firing range and it's 7 shots to kill the dummy closest to me even with the longest range barrel attachment. I should be well within the 6 shot kill range. Please double check . Many thanks
Handguns in this game in general are just ass when it comes to performance, the only real contender before the Siege came along was the GS.50 because of its very long 2 shot range. I definitely think that handguns overall should get a buff rather than the Siege being nerfed to oblivion.
@@uberschnilthegreat22 I mean they could buff them but at the end of the day they're a secondary, none of them should compete with primaries. Nerf p890 and the siege and ever so slightly buff the other ones (only in terms of movement/handling) and I think they'd be in a good spot. Cold War had some of the best secondary balancing in recent memory, except for the Marshalls, f those things
From my experience with this weapon, this is better than the full auto GS .50. The Ftac Seige has so much versatility that it can be kitted in many ways(your couple of builds included). When i tested it, i kitted it like a mini SMG. Accuracy, range(am aware of the damage range problem it has), and more importantly magazine size(can do the biggest one, but the second biggest clip would be better option to minimize penalties on its downsides.
Imo activision looked at how many people use overkill and added this secondary to balance that aspect out, expect now I’m running a shield as my primary and this thing as an smg with double time and blast shield and having a blast!
Should probably increase the shots-to-kill by 1 at all ranges and it'd make it more of a secondary that's easier to use than the rest rather than one that's obliterating the rest. Especially the X13 auto...rip glock 18
i got it last night and it seems ok. Not the worst pistol but not very competitive either. A fun gimmick weapon to be sure. it uses all the existing deagle attachments except it accepts underbarrels instead of lasers.
On shipment the biggest mag is a no brainer lol I got a 9 kill feed with it without reloading once. Also got my PR of 112 with this gun. Idc what anyone says it's like top 5 guns in the game period.
Hi i have a question how do i unlock the magazine attachment at the ftac siege i maxed this weapon and the magazine attachment is stil locked help me please😢
I'm glad I used the gun before I watch this video. On paper it doesn't seem like much but in practice it's a melt machine. Hopefully they don't nerf it into the ground😢
TAC-9s were very easy to modify into machine pistols like we see in game, and it wasn't something you could toggle. It's still accurate for the firearm's history (The fact it was so easy to make an automatic is how it got banned).
I think I’m the only one who finds this thing to not be OP. There are so many other better secondary options than this. For up close, akimbo p890’s, akimbo X12/13’s, single or akimbo snakeshots. RPG for the splash factor, or knife for movement. For mid range and beyond, the slow time to kill gives you a chance to evade the rest of the shots… Every SMG beats this thing straight up, and I keep seeing people complain about the ledge hang when you can literally 1 shot people with the deagle doing the same shit, yet you rarely ever see people actually playing like this. If anything, they could nerf the mobility of it a bit, add in some horizontal recoil and even more so with the magazines, but unless you’re point blank, this thing is not threatening. Even with a full zero recoil build, the bullet velocity is trash and the time to kill is worse than almost any other weapon.
I saw that they gave it an (almost) realistic rate of fire (the real one fires 1,500) and i was so happy but then i saw they gave it a *71 drum mag* and i instinctually said „who hurt the developers to make them add this“
I’ve enjoyed your reviews. If only the game itself did not have so many flaws, from the lagging & freezing curiosity mostly on Shipment. But what is really frustrating is it doesn’t track all of the Camino challenges, I guess they more concerned with animal costumes & making the bunny hop a strategic part of the game. (Lame) Yes I know they have to make $. But the first couple of Modern Warfare games were solid games, the newer versions are fun at times But after a while it’s gets old pretty fast. Great job. Thanks Thank
@@KillerUnicorn586 Even before the drum ADS buff it was still the fastest SMG in the entire game. I'd personally argue that it's the best close/mid range SMG in the game. Others run better for longer range because of Velocity, a more controllable fire rate and recoil.
if its supposed to be a tec 9, why is it modeled with an open bolt? and why doesnt it have an open bolt delay if its model is open? why does it shoot SO damn fast? weird gun.
The fact that it only drops down to an 8 shot kill at range is quite interesting. With how low you can get the recoil on this thing you can challenge people at range no problem.
Yes, I did 2-3 bursts and took down. I was honestly surprised it can do that 😅 with the drum mag, this thing is surprisingly good
The Siege Wire stock in particular is fucking ridiculous. It's hands down the best stock in the entire game. Even tuned for 100% ADS walking speed it still has zero recoil. If you aren't using the wire stock you are using this gun incorrectly lol.
I got my PR of 112 kills with this gun. It's the best "pistol" I've ever used 😂
Fr I was beaming people 50+ meters
it seems stupid to even measure a guns viability based on the amount of "shots to kill", when RPM of the guns in the game varies between 30 and 1300.
The way I see it, this pistol is insane because its a competent smg whilst having all of the benefits of a pistol. You don't need overkill to run it, you can use it whilst hanging off ledges, the swap time is really fast, you can use it underwater, and it's got a potential 71 rnd drum. This thing is disgusting, and they haven't even released the akimbo attachment for it ☠️
Please no for this one. I can deal with x13, p8s, and even full auto deagle akimbo.
They purposefully haven't put the Akimbo on it... It's been known for a little bit (Stated actually) that it wasn't going to have it. So why think they're going to 'release' it on a pistol that can basically be a short range pocket Fennec?
@@Meravokas in the breakdown of the update they literally said you can’t duel wield it “yet”
My new go-to secondary when running a sniper
It’s going to get nerfed next season guaranteed.
I just love that there’s a barrel named “STF-U”.
it's the devs telling the community what they think about how much we dislike the game ;)
That has to have some kind of deep meaning
@@HyperDarkmoon Which is justifiable because this community has been nothing but whiny little babies for it. For real though, people were exactly the same back in MW19 and now they praise it to high heaven. Does this game have problems? Yes. Are they THAT bad to making the game unplayable? No lmao.
@@HyperDarkmoon yup
@@carterskindle7086I thought cause it's a suppressor integrated barrel
Don’t get too excited you know the drill…Release an OP gun to sell bundles then nerf it once they made the money
Theres no bundles with the gun
There are no Tec 9 bundles genius...
@Jasper-Holland there will be on Tuesday or whenever they update their little shop. And that has been the play for years. It'd be retarded to not think that's gonna happen
@@oven3515 there is no reason to buy the bundle when the unlock challenge is so easy
😂😂😂😂😂
Thing has been doing work for me in DMZ. Shreds the NPCs and actually does very well on 3 plate players also. Might be a touch overtuned, but in DMZ in particular, it is just "very solid" I think.
Just took down a 6 lvl2 bots with a single birst. Something i wouldn't be able to do with my Tag56 or Iso hamlock. Insane
I played a few dmz games with it and felt like I was cheating. It feels like it has 2x damage in dmz.
It does wonders in the new complex, just make sure to bring lots of ammo boxes. And 40-50 meter kills on bots feels as fast as the hemlock.
no, its not good for 3 plate players. I had to use my entire 72 round drum mag just to break someone's 3 plate armor in the complex. It does indeed, shred bots and the damage is bugged against bosses it kills them in a few seconds.
@@redequinox9874 Shotguns in DMZ's complex absolutely shred as well, I reccomend either the Expedite or Brysons. DON'T take dragon's breath though, especially if you're running the Broadside! They do pitiful damage against AI targets!
As always thanks for the high quality analysis of the guns in this game, but one thing I would ask is for a long range setup for each gun, since those long shots are required for camo progression on each weapon.
The fact that it's just super forgiving and that's why it seems to be OP is nice. Low skill needed but it has the FEEL
Very glad you are very thorough with gun testing as i also noticed that street sweeper barrel helps the most with hip walking bloom/accuracy
Jump into my first PvP game since it launched and all I heard was the super fast report of this gun spraying all over the map! Fun to use and great video for various builds, thanks!
This is exactly why I love these videos. As soon as I unlocked it, it felt super OP up close, but when you run the numbers, it’s not really out of line. Sure, it kills fast really close, but as you stated, not out of line with even the other pistols up close. At midrange, I find the X13 way more controllable and can reliably get kills with it at 20-25m, but with this, I struggle at those ranges, even with the bigger magazine. And then compared to the one hit potential of the Desert Eagle and Basilisk or the reliability of the P890, I feel like it’s not really OP, it’s just a little more forgiving than some of the other pistols. Plus, the handling being slower and more SMG-like balances it as well. It’s a fun gun, but it won’t be replacing the X13 or P890 (for 6v6) or Desert Eagle (for Ground War and Warzone, not that I play much Warzone anymore) as my go-to sidearms.
Really weird thing about this gun, stocks make you put your eye much closer to the iron sights. Also, one of the barrels even changes the look of the irons. Pretty cool details, I like iron sights.
I mean it’s not “weird” when you’re physically shouldering the gun now, thus having it closer.
The shortened barrel on this gun also affects how you hold it, making the iron signs larger.
@@davixn Most guns don't work this way in this game, from what I remember. At least, not to the extent this one does.
Also, I'm talking about the Streetsweeper barrel. It literally has different sights.
@@mscup8814 i know that. The street sweeper barrel has completely different irons, but the mouse 99 barrel makes your character hold it closer to your body.
I mean, most guns DO work that way, keep in mind we don’t have a base stock with this gun, when you add a stock (also goes for the x12 & x13) then they’re actually using it. Same thing goes for when you remove a stock from a primary, you hold it further.
For those who came here looking for Hardcore ranges, it appears to be a 2-shot anywhere in the first two damage ranges, a 2-shot in the torso in the third range, and a 3-shot otherwise.
P890 would still be king for Hc.
Ah yes, the Kek-9 pistol is once again amazing. And it ain't even an SMG this go around.
I love the fact it feels like an SMG. My favorite class has been to run a longrange build DMR and use overkill to pair it with an SMG for closer quarters situations, this gun allowed me to drop overkill for something more helpful while still achieving the same purpose the class had before. Love it.
I mean, it's practically a Pocket Papushka
Great Video!!! I appreciate the effort you put in your work. Top Tier! These guides helps me out tremendously.
It'd be very interesting to see the Makarov in this game too. Also would be fun to see the Glock with the 100rnd duel drum, but the drum would cancel out the duel wield. Would be some very different full auto high cap pistols. This gun also really makes me wanna see a Full Auto Famas ripping away at its actual fire rate.
Thank you for your hard work as always . It's very much appreciated.. and it's straight to the point no fluff or bs , cause we all allready know the game is in bad shape . Nice to not hear it in a video
Interesting how this gun doesn't have an open bolt delay in spite of it being depicted as open bolt in the Inspect animation.
Giving it an open bolt delay would be an easy way to "nerf" it.
It does have a slight delay
i see it in the final killcam, you always hear the CHNK of the bolt slamming forward before it starts hosing down the poor sap with bullets
It’s like a mini PPSH
Now imagine if a recoil booster were introduced for these guns.
@@imtoolazyforaprofilepic4961 vaznek 9k with recoil booster to melt everything 😂🔥
Its nice to have a lethal option besides akimbo pistols for secondaries for people not using overkill. Would love to see some kind of 3 round burst pistol as well.
A single P890 is a beast, better than a lot of primaries, especially at short range.
@@2MeterLP Im not a fan of semi auto though haha, easier to just spray and pray with a gun like the FTAC siege.
They're definitely gonna nerf it and add more recoil. It's super easy to control, combined with the high fire rate it dominates
i’d have to disagree. Considering in the meta, currently this isn’t game breaking. Not to mention you said it best this doesn’t have a better ttk than most of the other guns in the game. One thing MW2 did right was balancing pistols. The p890 has a better ttk and range, the basilisk and .50 gs can one shot, and the basilisk has snakeshot akimbo, and the .50 gs is borderline a mini dmr. Smgs are still going to be better than the ftac, and so are every other primary weapon. I would describe this gun as a forgiving easy to use secondary for the majority of the player-base. But at the end of the day there are better and more lethal options. The ftac is just new and probably feels annoying to some people cause everyone is using it, but after the honeymoon period fades people are just going back to what they normally use
It’s got the same issue as the fennec, where it does kill relatively fast, but the amount of bullets needed makes it feel weak. It seems strange to me though that they added the Tec-9 over a more modern pistol, or even a m1911.
Alfredo n the Fennec
The m1911 is in every cod game, it's just boring
I’m no gun expert but the Tech-9 wasn’t an automatic irl, I’d much rather have a Five7 or for fun a single action revolver..
@@poupex8535 it could be modified to full auto before it was made illegal
@@poupex8535 you could change it to full auto. So it technically is correct. However taking COD for realistic is stupid
The basilisk has tuning on the snake shots now. Its back to op status imo.
I prefer the 72 round drum over the 50, 40 more bullets are better than 18 extra bullets
Just maxed it out in Shipment (with a x2XP, of course) and turned it into a pocket SMG, I guess I’ll enjoy it before it gets nerfed
Crazy right! I was trying to get the skin for the SMG, and then I noticed this is in the pistol category 😅
This thing is like a pocket-Papushka with that 71 round drum and blistering RoF, and you can make it a cursed homeboy tommy-gun with the foregrip mods available
Haven't even maxed this baby out yet but I absolutely love it, you will need to run scav or ammo box though because you're going to burn through ammo.
Ya know, the moment shot that thing in the firing range, my immediate thought was "My god, it's a pocket MG42/PPSh hybrid"
Glad to say I at least recognized that fire rate
Great video ace Great job
Hey Ace. Great video as always. However, i do believe that you missed the open bolt delay that this gun has. Not sure of the exact numbers but it does feel long enough to throw the gun off a bit at close range
I tried testing for this but wasn't able to measure any delay at 120FPS. It is a bit tricky to detect perfectly with hand testing though so it's possible there is a small delay.
This thing looks hilarious when you start decking it out in attachments and it looks so smothered in tactics, "when you max out the starting pistol" meme indeed!
Shame this is suicide to try and unlock in Warzone if you don't have MW2, I only got it because of the free shipment trial.
What I like the most is its competitive with most SMGs but you don’t need overkill to use it as a secondary
LoL There's a barrel called the 'STF-U'.
For a secondary weapon, this guns pretty good ngl it’s a good rushing weapon in snd if your running a shield
This gun has the fire rate and power of an MG42 when you pick it up off someone and see it in killcams, then when you finally unlock and equip this, it shoots beanbags since that's the very day it got nerfed.
It takes 2 matches to get it unlocked
@@Maxx2294-blyat yeah no cap. Same thing with the full auto deagle
Is there actually no open-bolt delay on this gun, even though it's open-bolt, or is it so fast that it's imperceptible?
Probably the best season we had so far in this game with best guns. Lets see if they can improve from here on out.
Removing a stock dramatically increases the recoil that a gun will see, so adding a stock back on will reduce recoil to sensible levels.
Any stock, recoil rear grip, and vertical muzzle brake tame this bullet hose so well you can challenge people further away than you should have a right to.
DA BEST COD CONTENT💯😮💨
Weird how they added two auto pistols when we still dont have a burst fire one
Yeah, I'd love to see the M9 or whatever it was called in MW19 get added back with the 93r as a separate frame or even just conversion.
@Pattamatt1998 It was called the Renetti, man that thing was so satisfying
I got the ftac siege and fully leveled it up in 2 hours playing shipment 24/7
Do you think its possible to do a video on the new shurikens? or if theres not enough content, maybe a lethal comparison video
Already scheduled for tomorrow!
Is it just me or are several of the barrel names different in the game vs. what he put? Did they change them in a update?
Went on a 15 with the siege, safe to say i love it
Ace are you sure about the ttk and shots to kill per range ? I'm in the firing range and it's 7 shots to kill the dummy closest to me even with the longest range barrel attachment. I should be well within the 6 shot kill range. Please double check . Many thanks
Something broke with the firing range dummies recently so they can’t be used for accurate data at all. I’ll likely cover this in a video soon
@@TheXclusiveAcemany thanks for your response. Much appreciated. Keep up the great work
are u sure u didnt reversed the ratchet and the supertac barrel values??? sorry dont wanna question you just curious pls dont get me wrong...
Can’t wait for the Magna video
NICE WORK!
A barrel named STFU 😂
hey man stfu
wait i meant the barrel
And it's silenced too 🤣
Infinity ward is talking to the community
Shipment is insane right now with everyone running around with this thing and playing laser tag.
I got 112 kills one game with this thing lol it's fucking incredible
@@pricklycats I’m just trying to do my headshot challenges for polyatomic and I’m getting beamed nonstop.
STF-U barrel with an integrated suppressor... i see what you did there
This thing is definitely gonna catch a nerf, but at the same time I wish some of the other pistols would get buffs.
Handguns in this game in general are just ass when it comes to performance, the only real contender before the Siege came along was the GS.50 because of its very long 2 shot range. I definitely think that handguns overall should get a buff rather than the Siege being nerfed to oblivion.
@@uberschnilthegreat22 I mean they could buff them but at the end of the day they're a secondary, none of them should compete with primaries. Nerf p890 and the siege and ever so slightly buff the other ones (only in terms of movement/handling) and I think they'd be in a good spot. Cold War had some of the best secondary balancing in recent memory, except for the Marshalls, f those things
Does this have an open bolt delay? Visually it does in the firing animation
From my experience with this weapon, this is better than the full auto GS .50. The Ftac Seige has so much versatility that it can be kitted in many ways(your couple of builds included). When i tested it, i kitted it like a mini SMG. Accuracy, range(am aware of the damage range problem it has), and more importantly magazine size(can do the biggest one, but the second biggest clip would be better option to minimize penalties on its downsides.
If you put an optic on it, you'll be amazed at the range.
@@cheponis i did that as well and was very surprised by that
Bro. The streetsweper doesn't exist anymore
Very solid video
Imo activision looked at how many people use overkill and added this secondary to balance that aspect out, expect now I’m running a shield as my primary and this thing as an smg with double time and blast shield and having a blast!
They really have to nerf the right shield it'd be cool if they'd make it where armor piercing arounds would go through it if it was on your back
This thing either melts or shoots marshmallows
If you aren't up close it shoots popcorn
Gun is the fastest firing gun I've ever used, except maybe the Vector in Battlefield Hardline (which was 1250 iirc)
@Matty Kelly "if I recall correctly"
Genuinely my favorite gun in the game now by far and it helped me get my pr of 112 lol
Should probably increase the shots-to-kill by 1 at all ranges and it'd make it more of a secondary that's easier to use than the rest rather than one that's obliterating the rest. Especially the X13 auto...rip glock 18
I hope they add the semi auto version and the quick switch grip for it
Can't wait for the magna video
I'm curious how good, bad, and stupid the gun is simultaneously
i got it last night and it seems ok. Not the worst pistol but not very competitive either. A fun gimmick weapon to be sure. it uses all the existing deagle attachments except it accepts underbarrels instead of lasers.
It’s meh. Not especially great but fun nonetheless when ur right up on them
It's not bad at all if you build it right, but the tec-9 just blows it out of the water.
Can you compare termit mw19 vs new mw? Looks like new termite not to powerful against vehicles
Unless IW fucked up attachment stats, the supertac-iv is listed as the best for range. Its also much longer
71 round mag is the first mag to be unlocked. Why use anything else?
On shipment the biggest mag is a no brainer lol I got a 9 kill feed with it without reloading once. Also got my PR of 112 with this gun. Idc what anyone says it's like top 5 guns in the game period.
Hi i have a question how do i unlock the magazine attachment at the ftac siege i maxed this weapon and the magazine attachment is stil locked help me please😢
For extra comedy, equip the Banana camo in the "fun" category. Very ripe for breaking immersion.
I'm just happy that I can do hostage extraction in DMZ with a gun now instead of being a sitting duck for bots to dump rounds into
It’s an amazing new add to the game. The full auto deagle tho is kinda eeh
At this point why would you even use the glock? Or use any other secondary in warzone, outside of point blank range akimbo prrformance?
Basically it's an SMG you can put on your secondary without using Overkill and can use while climbing or sitting on a ledge.
You can also shoot it in the water too
I'm glad I used the gun before I watch this video. On paper it doesn't seem like much but in practice it's a melt machine. Hopefully they don't nerf it into the ground😢
i find it weird u unlock the 70 round mag before all the other mags.
usually you work ur way up to get more ammo
I just like the design of the TEC-9, especially when it's an actually viable weapon.
I love full auto pistols. Whenever they are an option in a videogame, I usually go for them
Love the videos but can you add the in game lobby music behind them ❤
The second time the tec 9 is in a cod game it is op as shit again. Shocking
Are the integral suppressor barrels still glitched?
Yes
It might not be powerful but I'm having fun running around shredding people with this.
Why did they give sniper bullets/damage to a pistol?
Does this studio have any kind of QA or competent devs?
this gun gives me Cold War PTSD bruh
Kinda wish you could use it in single shot like its irl variant, like a pocket dmr
TAC-9s were very easy to modify into machine pistols like we see in game, and it wasn't something you could toggle. It's still accurate for the firearm's history (The fact it was so easy to make an automatic is how it got banned).
I think I’m the only one who finds this thing to not be OP. There are so many other better secondary options than this. For up close, akimbo p890’s, akimbo X12/13’s, single or akimbo snakeshots. RPG for the splash factor, or knife for movement. For mid range and beyond, the slow time to kill gives you a chance to evade the rest of the shots… Every SMG beats this thing straight up, and I keep seeing people complain about the ledge hang when you can literally 1 shot people with the deagle doing the same shit, yet you rarely ever see people actually playing like this. If anything, they could nerf the mobility of it a bit, add in some horizontal recoil and even more so with the magazines, but unless you’re point blank, this thing is not threatening. Even with a full zero recoil build, the bullet velocity is trash and the time to kill is worse than almost any other weapon.
So this gun is basically a MW22's take at a PPSh-41, Same fire rate, low damage and 71/72 drum mag
I dont see the streetsweeper barrel on my gunsmith. not locked...just not there
Was thinking the same
Could you cover the new Throwing Star lethal next?
Yep, video is already uploaded and scheduled for today
@@TheXclusiveAce cool I'll make sure to watch it:)
Reminds me of the PM63 from blops
I saw that they gave it an (almost) realistic rate of fire (the real one fires 1,500) and i was so happy but then i saw they gave it a *71 drum mag* and i instinctually said „who hurt the developers to make them add this“
is this better than fennec? if not, then what's the point
@KVMD The Fennec is a primary, this is a secondary.
I’ve enjoyed your reviews.
If only the game itself did not have so many flaws, from the lagging & freezing curiosity mostly on Shipment.
But what is really frustrating is it doesn’t track all of the Camino challenges, I guess they more concerned with animal costumes & making the bunny hop a strategic part of the game. (Lame)
Yes I know they have to make $. But the first couple of Modern Warfare games were solid games, the newer versions are fun at times
But after a while it’s gets old pretty fast.
Great job. Thanks
Thank
It seems they changed the Streetsweeper 9mm name changed to RN5-XV 9MM
Viable drums are quite a rare sight. Perhaps this may be the only instance where they are useable (aside from the RPK and AUG lmg default mag).
they did buff them across the board in the most recent update
The Fennec has always been viable with the 45 drum, if not a necessity for the sake of not having to reload after a single kill.
@@Meravokas yeah but you were practically forced to use that one it slowed the gun down a lot though idk how it is now
@@KillerUnicorn586 Even before the drum ADS buff it was still the fastest SMG in the entire game. I'd personally argue that it's the best close/mid range SMG in the game. Others run better for longer range because of Velocity, a more controllable fire rate and recoil.
@@Meravokas the fennec with the drum was definitely slower than a vaznev
Just occurred to me that the night vision alt aim doesn't effect it
you should talk about a little about STF-U barrel's name, either dev who made this name hate his boss or he dont like whine from players lmao
So Fkn OP- it should have been an SMG, as a secondary it’s nuts
while using both drum mags, when full reloading, reload cancel feels really weird on the tec-9
Just don't let it get down to 0 or it'll take 5 years to reload.
I feel like the xten r-40 suppressor is better than the stf-u barrel. Just to the one who wanna run a suppressor on it
There’s literally a barrel names ‘STF-U’ 💀
I believe damage wise it should be stronger then a 8 to 9 shot kill gun
Glad im not the only person thinking this
@@chasm1205 it took me roughly 15 to 20 bullets for one long range kill on shipment so the damage should be buffed properly
if its supposed to be a tec 9, why is it modeled with an open bolt? and why doesnt it have an open bolt delay if its model is open? why does it shoot SO damn fast? weird gun.